The System of a Down Thread (MXican Radio #4)

[blackest_incarnation]

That's my point.

Oh, ok.

[SabeR]

Banana banana banana banana terrecotta banana terrecott terrecotta pie!
Banana banana banana banana terrecotta banana terrecott terrecotta pie!
Banana banana banana banana terrecotta banana terrecott terrecotta pie!
Banana banana banana banana terrecotta banana terrecott terrecotta pie!

I love that song, it is quite funny.
um which song is this again :p

[mutant!]

Right, but D standard doesn't have a low C...
Exactly.

/mass confusion

What I meant was, playing in D standard is more respectable (note: IMHO) because it's still standard tuning, just lower. The moment you take standard D and drop the D to C, you're in a drop tuning, which is gh3y.

The kind of tuning a guitarist uses doesnt determine how good he is. Drop tunings dont have to be used soley by lazy guitarists. Certain riffs can be played with far more convienience with the dropped E string as opposed to an E string in standard.
In most cases, it is used solely by lazy guitarists. I agree, some riffs are easier to play in drop D. Like Incubus - Echo for example, which is almost impossible to play in E maj in standard tuning. However (I'm going overboard with the vbCode, aren't I?), the vast majority just drop the E so they can play power chords with one finger.

[Kyle]

In most cases, it is used solely by lazy guitarists. I agree, some riffs are easier to play in drop D. Like Incubus - Echo for example, which is almost impossible to play in E maj in standard tuning. However (I'm going overboard with the vbCode, aren't I?), the vast majority just drop the E so they can play power chords with one finger.why over-complicate things? playing in drop tuning when playing alot of simple powerchord riffs is just far more efficient.

[Britton]

So are you all loving the new album or what?

Do you think it will do as well as Mezmerize?

[Kyle]

I really like the new album. I havn't really though whether it will do better than mesmerize, but I suspect not. Hypnotize the single hasn't had the same impact that BYOB had.

[PepsiMetal]

Probably not. The hype seems to be down now for hypnotize.

[Dave de Sylvia]

What I meant was, playing in D standard is more respectable (note: IMHO) because it's still standard tuning, just lower. The moment you take standard D and drop the D to C, you're in a drop tuning, which is gh3y.But what if you want to use a low C?

[Britton]

I really like the new album. I havn't really though whether it will do better than mesmerize, but I suspect not. Hypnotize the single hasn't had the same impact that BYOB had.


When BYOB came out here nobody was really into it. Then it went crazy
when they rolled through town. I think it will do fine. but probably not as
well as mez

[mutant!]

But what if you want to use a low C?
Or an A2? Or a D1? You see what I mean, you can just keep wanting to go lower and lower and lower but then you're not playing guitar anymore. Just get a bass or something. Idk, this is a pretty useless debate actually, and I apologize. My point is just that the instrument has limits and the art lies in finding interesting ways to get around those, not just forcing the instrument lower or whatever.

[Kyle]

Or an A2? Or a D1? You see what I mean, you can just keep wanting to go lower and lower and lower but then you're not playing guitar anymore. Just get a bass or something. Idk, this is a pretty useless debate actually, and I apologize. My point is just that the instrument has limits and the art lies in finding interesting ways to get around those, not just forcing the instrument lower or whatever.
....unless you want a lower sound. I just dn't see the problem with tuning lower if you can acquire a sound which you really like. It has worked for Daron throughout his career so why change it. When Slash changed his tuning down for Velvet Revolver the results wern't good.

[Dave de Sylvia]

Slash only tuned down for two songs, and that was because Dave Kushner wrote the riffs.

mutant, I think you're still missing the point.

[Kyle]

Slash only tuned down for two songs, and that was because Dave Kushner wrote the riffs.*Hides from SOP's superior G'n'R related knowledge.

[YDload]

Slayer's "Metal Storm/Face the Slayer" is one of the few songs of theirs in standard tuning, but it's just as heavy as anything else they play, and I like it a lot more too :)

Anyway, I listened to Hypnotize and was quite pleased with it. Needs a few more listens to see where I'll rank it among the rest of their albums, but my stupid CD player keeps stopping all the time for no reason :mad::mad::mad:


I need an iPod.

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

hmm, but it also allows the instruments to go deeper than they could before, which adds to systems darker tone

try playing a system song drop tuned, then normally and you will see what i mean

Well, they'll have they're dropped tuned guitars for older songs. I think it will be quite intersting. Besides they have strayed away from a heavier sound. I was saying to my friends when we were listening to it, they should do an album like the interlude from U-Fig(the lighter, middle-eastern sounding part). That would be really cool.

[BrownSugar]

Well so far Hypnotize beats Mezmerise. Vicinity of Obscenity brings back memories of s/t.

[Skit]

In a Guitar World, Daron said that the next album, will most likely be in normal tuning.:thumb:

:confused:

That sounds like BS, You got some sort of link to the article to confirm this?

[mutant!]

mutant, I think you're still missing the point.
Probably, yes.

To Kyle: if you want a lower sound, let the bass do it. No matter how much you downtune the guitar, the bass is still carrying the low end, isn't it? So rather let the bass play more. Say for example you're playing a D power chord in drop D - you could just as well be in standard tuning, only playing the A and the upper D, and let the bass play the low D and the A above it to support the bottom end. You're still playing a D power chord, but you're letting the lower instrument handle the lower notes. Make sense? Most of my argument is based on the jazz school of thought: that the bass carries the harmonies and the guitar is only there to fill out the middle and upper range.

In conclusion (ie I don't want to discuss this further because evidently no-one agrees with me): My point is that every instrument should play where it was built to play. Let the bass handle the low-end stuff; give him an overdrive pedal and you should be fine. The guitar is only there to support.

I'm finished, if the rest of you want to keep debating, go for it. I won't.

[W.M.A]

It's whiny, annoying, really gets under your skin, and sounds like Tom DeLonge on Blink's first CD.

i said this a couple of months ago about mezmerize and some system fans tore the **** out of me telling me i was full of ****. good to see someone agrees

[Spiritofmosa]

i realise hypnotize is quite religious

[Blizzink]

My computer won't recognize the CD side of the dual disc and I'm getting extremely pissed. Whatever, I'll just have to do some line-in recording with my mp3 player.

Oh, and I'm on the fence with my opinion of the CD at the moment.

[Napes]

I just bought Hypnotize yesterday and so far I'm really lovin' it.
It was already said but that "banana terrcotta pie" song is awesome!

[fuzzyhair]

So do I start listening to mezmerise and then listen to hypnotize. Or do I do it the other way around? Someone thinks that the 2 soldier sides go together.

[Stoo]

I heard they go together too...

If you have both Cds on iTunes, because it fades in the next song, then maybe it will sound like the one song?

[DaveTheAmazing 2.0]

I heard they go together too...

If you have both Cds on iTunes, because it fades in the next song, then maybe it will sound like the one song?
Soldier Side on Mesmerise is basically the last minute of Soldier Side on Hypnotise.

Does anyone but me think the DVD thing that's on the Dualdisk for Hypnotise that you can get is completely horrible?

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

:confused:

That sounds like BS, You got some sort of link to the article to confirm this?
Like I said in was in a guitar world. I'll try to scan and put it in here.

i realise hypnotize is quite religious
I don't believe so, and I'm a christian. Maybe I'm worng though. I have been wrong in the past.

[Against Miik!]

IMO: drop-tuning is pretentious and a cheap way to sound metal-y. True musicianship is shown when you can:

1) sound heavy without distortion;
2) play metal in standard tuning; and
3) adapt to the instrument instead of adapting the instrument to yourself.

/prepares +5 shield of flame resistance


That doesn't really apply to SOAD. They play a lot of complicated riffs, with and without distortion. Sometimes it will seem "pretentious and cheap", like in BYOB, whereas in other songs, you really can't even tell, like Radio/Video. I think its just part of there sound, and the guitars tuned down sound good with Serj's voice. Would you say tuning up is cheating as well? Or getting into open tunings? I wouldn't. It all matters how it is used.

[mutant!]

I've really stopped arguing, but valid point: I would consider tuning up, or any other tuning for the sake of convenience, cheating. EXCEPT open tunings for slide guitar. That is the only exception I can think of right now.

[fuzzyhair]

Like I said in was in a guitar world. I'll try to scan and put it in here.


I don't believe so, and I'm a christian. Maybe I'm worng though. I have been wrong in the past.
I dont think its reglious. I am pretty sure that if cigaro (the user) is referring to soldier side, that soldier side is about being sent to war.

[deejuks2]

Viscenity of Obscenity rocked my world. SOAD have some good concepts, but they cant seem to get away from easy written cliche riffs (and sometimes lyrics) most of the time.

[GermFreeAdolescent]

Just listened to the whole cd, I have to say Vicinity of Obscurity is just a sweet song, ace! I like the cd, I can see myself buying a copy.

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

I dont think its reglious. I am pretty sure that if cigaro (the user) is referring to soldier side, that soldier side is about being sent to war.

I know I said I didn't think it was christian.

[Britton]

I'm probably gonna go out this weekend and buy both albums and have a SOAD
Party. I've been meaning to buy mezmerize sense it came out. I just havn't gotten around to it

[The_Riddler]

I have had Hypnotize since it was released and I love the album. I pretty much love all their albums whenever I am in the mood to listen to them, sadly which isn't much, but they are all great.

I don't know the song titles for any of the tracks because I haven't paid attention to them much in my cd player. I like track 2,3,4,11. I need to hear the others again but yeah, those stuck out.

[+zero+]

i think hypnotize is excellent. definitely a good step of a new style of music cuz i think it sounds like an in between of S/T and Mezmerize. i wouldnt really say the cds very religious just because they sing about God. i think its cool that they do tho. we need more bands singing about God rather than 666 and whatnot.

[YDload]

i think hypnotize is excellent. definitely a good step of a new style of music cuz i think it sounds like an in between of S/T and Mezmerize. i wouldnt really say the cds very religious just because they sing about God. i think its cool that they do tho. we need more bands singing about God rather than 666 and whatnot.

there's a whole genre of music for that. I don't think a band "should" sing about anything in particular; they should just write about whatever's important to them (unless it's cliched and nobody wants to hear about it anymore, that crap needs to stop).

[mutant!]

Will someone please tell me once and for all, which religion do SOAD practice?

[Skit]

SOAD arnt 'religious' as far as I know there christian but not heavy practicing...

EG. Piggybacking on the holidays like everyone else :thumb:

[Spiritofmosa]

I dont think its reglious. I am pretty sure that if cigaro (the user) is referring to soldier side, that soldier side is about being sent to war.
songs like holy mountain, i remember hearing a few 'jesus' and 'God' in the album

[mutant!]

SOAD arnt 'religious' as far as I know there christian but not heavy practicing...

EG. Piggybacking on the holidays like everyone else :thumb:
:lol: Are you sure though? I've heard from Satanist to Islamic to Christian and everything in between. I just want to understand so I can interpret their songs better. Like, for example, the heavy Bible references in Chop Suey. I don't know the Bible very well, so iou can imagine my surprise (and I consider myself a true Christian) when I watched The Passion Of The Christ for the first time and heard Christ quoting SOAD lyrics while He was hanging on the cross. I was like, "Whoa, my saviour is a metalhead! ROCK ON!" \m/ Only then did I go do some Googling to find out what it's all about, but no-one can reach consensus. I'm confused. :confused:

I would like to hear a collaboration between SOAD and Muse. /random

EDIT:
songs like holy mountain, i remember hearing a few 'jesus' and 'God' in the album
Just because he says "Jesus" doesn't mean it's religious. Take Incubus: "Temporaryism has been the/Black Plague and the/Jesus of our age." It could easily be a metaphor. I wouldn't know, though, I haven't heard Hypnotize yet.

[Skit]

Holy Mountain is about a mountain(s) on the border of turkey and armenia and both countrys are fighting over who's mountain it is.

Or something along those line :p

[+zero+]

oh like in the trojan wars or whatever when they fought over the ural mountains i think it was. but yea about the religious soad, just because they aknowledge God doesnt really mean their like christians and stuff. i myself am a christian and i know soil when he says "why the fu** did u take him away from us you mother fu**er!" thats supposed to being said to God for his friend dying, or God taking him away. and also on the live version of kill rock n roll, daron says God told him to fu** all the sexy people and God said fu** you to daron so daron said fu** you back. im sure he was just joking but idk. i think they just aknowledge God as being creator and stuff.

[Blizzink]

Will someone please tell me once and for all, which religion do SOAD practice?

Well, as far as I know, the Armenians were an important part of the Catholic Church at one time.

I don't really analyze lyrics, but I think most of their use of religious references is just for metaphors or something.

[Taste_My_Scythe]

I just bought Hypnotize...because it was 8.99 at the local Circuit City and it came with a free shirt. haha. Good album, but I realized too late that it wasn't the one with BYOB on it. Ah well. Great stuff either way.
I've been listening to Toxicity a lot actually...I can't get enough of Chop Suey! and Bounce is funny as hell.

[JimbobTheSquirrel]

:lol: Are you sure though? I've heard from Satanist to Islamic to Christian and everything in between. I just want to understand so I can interpret their songs better. Like, for example, the heavy Bible references in Chop Suey. I don't know the Bible very well, so iou can imagine my surprise (and I consider myself a true Christian) when I watched The Passion Of The Christ for the first time and heard Christ quoting SOAD lyrics while He was hanging on the cross. I was like, "Whoa, my saviour is a metalhead! ROCK ON!" \m/ Only then did I go do some Googling to find out what it's all about, but no-one can reach consensus. I'm confused. :confused:
:lol: In as much as they are religious (I have no idea how religious they are) I think they'd most likely be Orthodox Christians or Catholic. I'd pretty much rule out Protestantism, but I amn't sure which of those two.

I would like to hear a collaboration between SOAD and Muse. /random
Sounds good to me:thumb:

[xrockerachickx]

SOAD and Muse? wow! that would be a good idea.
just to see what it would sound like
U = Smart

[Moses]

The whole reason Armenians are being persecuted is because of religion. They're mostly Christian and I'm not sure if SOAD is Christian but they definately are trying to get the Armenian genocide to stop.

[YDload]

SOAD are definitely very spiritual (listen to Science) but that doesn't necessarily mean they are religious, as in following any specific faith. The Armenians were the first country to be Christian (this was way before there was even such a thing as Catholicism and the only differences between Christians concerned which Apostle's account of the gospel they followed). I'm sure that's how most of the band members were brought up as kids, but they could have changed by now.

[Rage_Against_The_System]

I think that Hypnotize is the best album from them since Toxicity, but it still doesn't come close to their self titled debut.

[Stoo]

Just got Hypnotize...

I put it on iTunes and noticed that "Soldier Side" is now only the one song... 3.40mins long.

[Mother_Of_Abominations]

I've been meaning to pick up this cd, but, I haven't had the time.

[Stoo]

It's kewl how you can join the packets together.










...Because it's all about the packaging...!!!!!

[Telf]

SOAD are a protest band who are trying to get the people who commited the arminian genocide done, cause stalin and moa had there *** kicked, why not the arminian leader. they also protest against the american government.

[Stoo]

And...?

People know this stuff dood.

[JimbobTheSquirrel]

SOAD are a protest band who are trying to get the people who commited the arminian genocide done, cause stalin and moa had there *** kicked, why not the arminian leader.
Because the Arminian [sic] leader didn't commit the genocide, it was the Ottoman Empire who committed it against the Armenians. Stalin did not have his *** kicked, he lived a long life as leader of the soviet union, which lasted almost forty years after his death. The Moa is (or, rather, was) a flightless New Zealand bird that got its *** kicked by the Maori, who overhunted it and wiped it out. If you meant Mao, he also stayed in power untill he died of natural causes. As I post, China is still a communist dictatorship, although it is opening its economy to some capitalism. No *** kicking is evident.
One last thing to note is that the Ottoman Empire is gone and the leaders are all dead. SOAD are trying to get recognition of the genocide from the world, mostly the US (where they live) and Turkey, the country that is now where the Ottoman Empire was. Turkey was been the hub of the empire, like Britain or Rome. SOAD would also like Turkey to apologise.

I just got Hypnotize, it's so good... :)

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

I remember reading somewhere that Shavo believes in a God (sorry, I can't remember which one) but he says he stoped praying after his grandmother died when he was young.

Also, in the guitar world with Daron on the cover, there is a picture of him sitting in his living room, and his coffee table is filled with candle holders with Jesus and other christian things painted on them. At the same time he has some skulls on the coffee table as well.

[Kyle]

I put it on iTunes and noticed that "Soldier Side" is now only the one song... 3.40mins long.awesome!


It's kewl how you can join the packets together.
...Because it's all about the packaging...!!!!!I love packaging too..

[+zero+]

hypnotize is probly my favorite album of all. i mean S/T is great and so is toxicity but ive listened to them so many times i need to take a break from them. and its definitely the better of the double disc cd. i dont think anyone will deny that.

[From_The_Shadows666]

"Banana, Banana, Banana, Terracotta, Banana, Terracotta, Terracotta Pie"
System :):):)
Well...the other half of Mesmerize...Hypnotize...is really amazing.
I love how they can write so many songs...continuosly...and none of them are bad what-so-ever!
It's really amazing...and I can't wait till I get to see them live.
Pretty sweet how you can put the packages together.
Oh...and look at the songs on the albums...see how there all different size?
And it seems that the biggest are their "best" and the smallest are their "worst"...has anybody else noticed this?
But anyways...keep listening to System...and other various metal's...
Cheerio

[PepsiMetal]

Both mezmerize and hypnotize are amazing. All songs are so different and unique. Vicinity of Obscenity certainly kicks ***. So does about 15 other songs on hypnotize/mesmerize. :p

[YDload]

Vicinity of Obscenity is up there with Sugar as my favorite "silly" song from SOAD.

[+zero+]

another silly song is D'devil. thats a classic soad song. i dont like it that much but its funny.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

"Stupid people do stupid things, smart people outsmart each other" is perhaps one of my alltime favorite lyrics. :p

[YDload]

For some songs, it's debatable as to whether or not they're silly. Some hardcore SOAD fans will tell you that everything has a deeper meaning to it, but they're retarded. Goofy words + goofy guitar melodies = a silly song.

Here are the silly songs of theirs that I know of:

Self-titled:
Sugar
Ddevil
Peephole
Cubert (?)
Darts (?)

Toxicity:
Needles
Chop Suey (serious at the end, but wouldn't have been as popular if people didn't see it as a silly song)
Bounce
Shimmy

Steal This Album:
Chic N' Stu
I-E-A-I-A-I-O
36
Pictures

Mezmerize:
Cigaro
Radio/Video (?)
This Cocaine Makes Me Feel Like I'm On This Song
Violent animal photographsography (?)
Old School Hollywood

Hypnotize:
Kill Rock N' Roll
Stealing Society (?)
Vicinity of Obscenity
She's Like Heroin
Lonely Day (well it's silly to anyone who listens to the lyrics!)

Other:
Marmalade
...maybe some others (Storaged?)

Anyway, those are the ones I've found. I like some of them but others are just irritating.

[Moses]

"Stupid people do stupid things, smart people outsmart each other" is perhaps one of my alltime favorite lyrics. :p
Same here. I think it's brilliant!

[Skit]

YDload, I wouldnt call all of those 'silly' songs, Hell I dont think I'd say half of them was..

[+zero+]

i kind of agree with Skit, and im not going to say "IM A HARDCORE SOAD FAN" but some of those songs arent silly

[Friik]

Peephole
Needles
Chop Suey
Radio/Video
Old School Hollywood
Lonely Day


I don't think any of those songs are silly.

And i would probably add:

Suggestions
Jet Pilot
**** the system

[YDload]

That's why a lot of them have question marks after the name, because I'm not quite sure if they're silly or not. But I rarely take any of their songs seriously, so it's all silliness to me :)

[PepsiMetal]

Isn't needles about some drugged person and then at the end basically wanting to kill himself. In concert when daron starts singing, he replaced second needle in my hand with a shotgun in my hand. So yea, I think it's pretty serious, apart from pull the tapeworm out of your *** and stuff. lol.

[azbassman]

Alot of their songs have hidden meaning behind the weird *** lyrics.

[Kyle]

Lonely Day has to be a silly song, I can't see Daron righting lyrics that are THAT bad.

[Skit]

Daron thought Lonely Day was **** and didnt want it on the album, It was Rick Rubin who told him to put it on there.

I personally think its one of the best songs on the album if you can look past the lyrics :p

[The_Riddler]

Thinking of System of a Down and Chop Suey is odd to me. Not because it was a huge hit, but I am just remembering when Avril covered the song and completely demolished it live...how sad :(

[Mother_Of_Abominations]

I know this isn't the thread for it, but, could anyone send me Hypnotize over AIM? My screen name's bleedingheart344. Thanks in advance guys.:)

[Original-Kris05]

I know this isn't the thread for it, but, could anyone send me Hypnotize over AIM? My screen name's bleedingheart344. Thanks in advance guys.:)

HYPNOTISE HAS.... GUITARS :eek:

ive spoiled it for you now

[Skit]

I know this isn't the thread for it, but, could anyone send me Hypnotize over AIM? My screen name's bleedingheart344. Thanks in advance guys.:)

Buy the album you bum :thumb:

[Mother_Of_Abominations]

Buy the album you bum :thumb:
:angry: Thanks for your help.

[+zero+]

:angry: Thanks for your help.
its well worth your money i must say.:) plus if you buy the dual disc you have a little bit of video of soad.

[Skit]

:angry: Thanks for your help.

No problem ;)

[JimbobTheSquirrel]

Lonely Day has to be a silly song, I can't see Daron righting lyrics that are THAT bad.
I thoought it was at first, ("most loneliest day"...) but the last line "it's a day that I'm glad I survived" makes me think it's about the Armenian genocide, from the point of view of a child. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but it seems likely.

[YDload]

I really like Stealing Society; it's a perfect combo of Serj and Daron's lyrical styles. Serj starts the song with some poetic, abstract lyrics, and then Daron comes in later talking about the seedy Hollywood stuff he hinted at on the last two songs of Mezmerize.

I like the part "I'm a midnight fistfight" too, neat chords and stuff.

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

I thought that Mezmerize comes first. Now I am confused. Which one comes first?

[Against Miik!]

I like Mesmerize better of the two. EVERY song is good. Theres a few of the goofier songs on Hypnotize like Kill Rock and Roll and Shes Like Heroin that I don't really like. It's good that the released the albums separately though. 23 soad songs is a lot to handle at once, and i'm not one to say which should and should not have made the album. I would say though, that on the whole, this is there best work.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I beleive you are alone when you say that. Not that it's a bad thing, but I think I've heard from pretty everyone that they prefer one of SoaD's earlier works.

[panthersfan16]

I was really disappointed with Hypnotize. Mezmerize was so much better

[The_Riddler]

I was really disappointed with Hypnotize. Mezmerize was so much better

I am not sure if I should agree or not with that. When Mezmirize first came out, All of my friends listened to it and it was something completely new and well it was just amazing.

Hypnotize which is also good, just isn't as memorable as Mezmirize, not at all. There are a few great songs on the album, but none of them stand out as much as the songs on Mezmirize at least to me.

Hypnotize isn't a bad album, don't get me wrong though :) I am not disappointed with either album.

[life of a dog]

I thought that Mezmerize comes first. Now I am confused. Which one comes first?
mezmerize came first then hypnotize

[PepsiMetal]

I beleive you are alone when you say that. Not that it's a bad thing, but I think I've heard from pretty everyone that they prefer one of SoaD's earlier works.

I pretty much prefer mesmerize and hypnotize over all soad albums except toxicity.

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

I pretty much prefer mesmerize and hypnotize over all soad albums except toxicity.
:amaze:
Even the Self-titled?

I have lost faith in mankind.

[PepsiMetal]

Ugh, I didn't like their self titled much. Toxicity is what got me into soad. Deer dance, needles, toxicity, aerials, etc... all great songs.

[mudvayne420]

If you people watched the dualdisc dvd then you'd see that John said they are basically going back to where they started(their roots). I think that Mezmerize was their new Stuff, but Hypnotize was a mix between their old stuff and new. I personally like hypnotize, because its the same soad just with a more creative sound. i loved the S/T, but its there debut album, and most bands want to Expand their sound and creativity.
I think most people don't like it because they really wanted this to sound like S/T but were let down when they heard hypnotize that they couldn't accept it for what it is. Hope i didn't offend anybody , but its what i think about this album, and Lonely Day Is My FAv. song i love the solo, what i think makes a good song is the way its structured, it doesn't matter how they sound or the way the lyrics are, but what should matter is if the music makes the mood, the lyrics fit the mood, and it assembles into a nice work of art. Art thats what i consider Hypnotize to be considered(i mean both hypnotize and mezmerize because i read that it was supposed to be one whole album.)

[+zero+]

im kinda sick of s/t from hearing it too much.

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

I haven't listened to it for a while. I've been listening to alot of KsE lately. AOJB is an awesome CD. :thumb:

You guys think that SOAD will release a DVD? That would be sweet!!

[laba]

^I hope so, I'd get it straight away..

[Skit]

You guys think that SOAD will release a DVD? That would be sweet!!

They were supposed to release a DVD back in 2002 but it never happened :upset:

[ValeOfShadows]

I recently got over this band and hypnotize didnt help me get back into them.
Self-titled and Toxity was the best SOAD albums IMO.

[pasulpepe]

I thought hypnotize was fantastic. It has a lot of the quirky vocals that were in self title

[pasulpepe]

I recently got over this band and hypnotize didnt help me get back into them.
Self-titled and Toxity was the best SOAD albums IMO.

I think my favorite was probably steal this ablum, Probably because it was so not accepted that it was almost undeground. Hypnotize is good and so is Mesmerize.

[+zero+]

i really like hypnotize also. its unique but still has a similar style to the S/T, and toxicity albums.

[Anthem]

Oh man I just saw a video of Mind live back a while ago. Look on google video for system of a down if you want it. Its amusing to watch darons antics.

[Kyle]

I think my favorite was probably steal this ablum, Probably because it was so not accepted that it was almost undeground. Hypnotize is good and so is Mesmerize.Wow finally somebody who thinks that, I really enjoy STA too. It is the album which introduced me to the band and I have loved it ever since I bought it. Ego Brain is so good.

[AIC/EAZY-E]

The songs that come from STA are my favourite, but STA isn't my favourite album. Yet again, it's not made to be an actual 'album'. Streamline, Roulette, Ego Brain, Mr. Jack, Innervision, Boom!, Highway Song, I-E-A-I-A-I-O...I like this set of songs better than the rest of SOAD's catalogue, especially the first four. Not much else can match up to these, maybe besides P.L.U.C.K.

[pasulpepe]

I think roulette is probably has most beautiful and poetic lyrics I have heard from SOAD. And Mr. Jack is good and Melodic, and ends in a good way (F*** you pig! F*** you pig!)

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

I really like STA. As an album as a whole its nothing special, but the songs on there are amazing. It's my favorite after S/T. The thing was it almost scarred me, because there are 16 songs on it, but its only 45 min.

I saw the Mind and Know live videos. They are awesome. I also saw the hypnotize DVD thing. Not really anything special.

[YDload]

My 3 favorite songs from each album:

System Of A Down: Sugar, Soil, PLUCK
Toxicity: Needles, ATWA, Chop Suey
Steal This Album: Highway Song, Streamline, Innervision
Mezmerize: Question!, Radio/Video, Sad Statue
Hypnotize: Solider Side, Vicinity of Obscenity, Stealing Society

Yes, they are in order.

[+zero+]

i like the song Friik! alot.

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

S/T:Mind, Suggestions, Sugar
Toxicity:Chop Suey!, Jet Pilot, Science
STA:Thetawaves, Ego Brain, Innervision
Mezmerize:Revenga, Old School Hollywood, Sad Statue
Hypnotize:Soldier Side, Holy Mountains, Dreaming

[Tele_Dude]

S/T: Suggestions, War?, Suite-Pee
Toxicity: Needles, Science, Toxicity
Steal This Album: Roulette, Mr. Jack, Streamline
Mezmerize: Revenga, Lost in Hollywood, B.Y.O.B
Hypnotize: She's Like Heroin, Stealing Society, Attack

[Skit]

I guess I might as well add my fav's:

Demos/Covers: Snowblind, Blue, Dam
Self Titled: Suggestions, Johnny, P.L.U.C.K.
Toxicity: ATWA, Prison Song, Needles
Steal This Album: Highway Song, Roulette, Ego Brain
Mezmerize: Cigaro, BYOB, Lost In Hollywood
Hypnotize: Soldier Side, She's Like Heroin, Lonley Day,

[Kyle]

ooo I'm bored so I'm gona do it....

unreleased: Marmalade, Metro, Snowblind
Self Titled: War, Soil, P.L.U.C.K
Toxicity: Forest, ATWA, Needles
STA: Ego Brain, Mr Jack, Roulette
Mezmerize: Revenga, Lost in Hollywood, BYOB
Hypnotize: Tentative, Soldier Side, Attack

[Skit]

I completley forgot Soldier Side, Thats going straight to number 1 on my list.


*Edits*

[laba]

It's too hard for me to single out only three tracks off every album, but I'll still try give it a go later.

[Anthem]

Unreleased: Marmalade, Metro, Storaged
2. Self Titled Suite Pee, Mind, Sugar
1. Toxicity Needles, Prison Song, Toxicity
5. Steal this Album I-E-A-I-A-I-O, Roulette,Boom
4. Mezmorize Sad Statue, Radio/Video, Cigaro
3. Hypnotize Stealing Society, Sad Statue, Dreaming

The 3 best songs on each album and the numbers represent what albums I like best, 1 being best, 5 worst.

[Against Miik!]

S/T: Sugar, SOIL, War
Toxicity: Toxicity, ATWA, Prison Song(100x better live)
Steal This Album: Ego Brain, Roulette, Highway Song
Mezmorize: Revenga, Lost In Hollywood, This Cocaine Makes Me Feel Like i'm On This Song(or however it goes)
Hypnotize: Soldier Side, Attack, Tentative

And of course, the best SOAD song of all time: Legend of Zelda

[+zero+]

i thought the Legend of Zelda was by a band called Group X. or so some people say. who knows!

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

It's actually Rabbit Joint that did the Legend of Zelda cover.

I've heard that it was SoaD, but I've seen quite a few good sources saying that it was not SOAD, but a band by the name of Rabbit Joint. Their vocalist sure does sound like Serj though. :confused:

[PepsiMetal]

Meh, I'll do it too.

S/T: War?, Spiders, P.L.U.C.K.
Toxicity: Deer Dance, Needles, Toxicity
Steal This Album: Mr. Jack, I-E-A-I-A-I-O, Streamline
Mezmerize: Revenga, Violent Pornography, Question!
Hypnotize: Kill Rock 'N Roll, Tentative, Lonely Day

:cool:

[King]

S/T: Know, Darts, Spiders
Toxicity: Phycho, Toxicity, Aerials
Steal This Album: Mr. Jack, Bubbles, Highway Song
Mezmerize: Revenga, Violent Pronography, Radio/Video
Hypnotize: Attack, Dreaming, Holy Mountains
Unreleased: Johnny, Temper, Dam

[Skit]

And of course, the best SOAD song of all time: Legend of Zelda

That better of been sarcasm :angry:
I think you'll find that song is by Rabbit Joint :smash:

[Spiritofmosa]

3. Hypnotize[/B] Stealing Society, Sad Statue, Dreaming

The 3 best songs on each album and the numbers represent what albums I like best, 1 being best, 5 worst.
sad statue's not from hypnotize

[pasulpepe]

S/T:Mind, Sugar, Suite Pee
Toxicity:Aerials, Toxicity
STA: Ego Brain, Innervision
Mezmerize:Revenga, Old School Hollywood, Sad Statue
Hypnotize:Soldier Side, Vicinity of Obscenity.

[TheSubtleArts]

1.S/T: War? Spiders, Soil
2.Toxicity: Needles, Aerials, ATWA
4.STA: Mr.Jack, Ego Brain, Highway Song
5.Mezmerize: Question, Lost In Hollywood, Radio/Video
3.Hypnotize: Soldiar Side, Holy Mountains, Tentative

numbers=order i like albums

[DekWannaBFlea]

When is the next single coming out? What is it going to be? I hope it is Holy Mountain, that song kicks major ***.

[PepsiMetal]

It should be Kill Rock n Roll and they should have a video playing on MTV like thousands of times, cause that'll display the truth..

MTV isn't really killing rock n roll, but you know, they have ruined its popularity.

[Skit]

It going to be either Lost in Hollywood Or Lonely Day I forget which one it is now.
One has been confirmed..

Im thinking its Lonley Day but Im not 100% on that

[+zero+]

i heard it was Lost in Hollywood but that was before hypnotize came out so i doubt its that anymore. I doubt that Kill rock n roll would be a single cuz itd be like bleeped out for like all the verses and stuff. thatd be annoying. unless they allow @ss..

[coneren]

S/T:P.L.U.C.K.,suite-pee,peephole
toxicity:Toxicity,forest,X
STA:innervision,ego brain,streamline
mezmerize:TCMMFLIOTS,revenga,sad statue
Hypnotize:tentative,soldier side,U-fig

[PepsiMetal]

It going to be either Lost in Hollywood Or Lonely Day I forget which one it is now.
One has been confirmed..

Im thinking its Lonley Day but Im not 100% on that

So whichever one it is, it has 95% of daron's vocals? :cool: :(

I would go for Kill rock N roll if I was soad, but oh well.

[Kyle]

Anyone read that interview with Daron where talked about having enough material to release 10 solo albums?

[PepsiMetal]

I didn't read it, but it's probably true. In concerts, he adds little solos, and weird stuff in almost every song. I have their performance for the download festival 05 and they completely changed war? They added something in the middle, daron used the electronic voice thingy, and added little palm muted solos or whatever those were.

[Kyle]

yeah I remember that performance of War, it was well good.

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/interviews/soads_daron_malakian_i_could_release_ten_solo_reco rds_tomorrow.html?200512120837

^links to ultimate guitar never work for me, this one doesn't either. Just go into the main site and look for news items from about 4-5 days ago.

[PepsiMetal]

If I were nominated for a Grammy, would I go? Probably not. I don't wanna be a part of that scene. I don't like to walk on red carpets!

lol :lol:

[Kyle]

:lol:, but yet he still found himself at the European Music Awards!!

hmmm suspicious?! He'd go to the Grammys and he knows it.

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

On the DVD thing, Serj is singing and playing a keyboard, while John seems to be recording the drums. Does anybody know what song that is. If you need to watch it, its on google video.

[PepsiMetal]

What dvd are you talking about?

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

THe bonus with Hypnotize

[Skit]

Charades.
It was originally on the Axis Of Justice CD/DVD as Serj on keyboard/vocals only.

Now it looks like there recording it as a full band song which could be sweet!

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

Cool. It sounded really good. Does anybody know if there is a leak of the song Heeze. I'd really, really, really like to hear it. (It's an instrumental that was supposed to be on Hypnotize)

[Skit]

Its gonna be released sometime in the future.

Possibly as a single B-side?

[+zero+]

thatd be sweet if they released a b-sides/rarities cd.

[PepsiMetal]

Could't they have just put that song on hypnotize too? I mean they only used like 45 minutes or so.

[Skit]

It was originally gonna open the album, but they wanted something more heavy (Attack) so they ended up dropping it from the album all together.

Zero, I wouldnt want a b-sides/rarities cd, It'd just be STA all over again...

[The Phone Phiend]

The new album is no way as good as hypnotize and although its gr8 and shavo is amazin and darron should sing less in the new album. i saw them live in glasgow in july and they were great i have one of shavos bass piks on my wall and my m8 caught one on the drum sticks

[Skit]

Errr...the new album is Hypnotize :amaze:

[+zero+]

It was originally gonna open the album, but they wanted something more heavy (Attack) so they ended up dropping it from the album all together.

Zero, I wouldnt want a b-sides/rarities cd, It'd just be STA all over again...
oh yea forgot about that:rolleyes: .. haha very true

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

What wrong with STA. I look at it this way, As an album as a whole, It's nothing special. If you look at the songs on it, STA isn't that bad. Innervision, Bubbles, Nuguns, Mr. Jack, Highway Song, Ego Brain (just to name a few) are all off of that one.

[PepsiMetal]

I love STA I dont get why people hate it. I mean Mr. Jack, there's IEAIAIO, so it ****s the system, along streamline. Very good cd. :p

[xxGumbyxx]

I'm I the only one who likes the unreleased demo version of the songs from STA better than the actual album?

[TheSubtleArts]

I'm I the only one who likes the unreleased demo version of the songs from STA better than the actual album?

no, i like some better also.

[niobium]

I'm I the only one who likes the unreleased demo version of the songs from STA better than the actual album?
I thought the unreleased version of Innervision was better than the studio, touch-up version. Plus STA didn't have Johnny, or my personal unreleased favorite song, Dam.

I wonder if they're ever going to record that little jam they used to do in concerts before playing Sugar... that would seem like a cool little song to build off of.

[YearsOfOppression]

I thought the unreleased version of Innervision was better than the studio, touch-up version. Plus STA didn't have Johnny, or my personal unreleased favorite song, Dam.

I wonder if they're ever going to record that little jam they used to do in concerts before playing Sugar... that would seem like a cool little song to build off of.

I didn't like Dam when i got it. I thought it was utter crap but the rest of their unreleased songs all sound good.

[Skit]

Well the reason Dam and Johnny arnt on STA is because they are from the ST sessions.

I like STA, they reason I said that is because, the vast majority of fans had already heard the album before toxicity came out.
To me the album just seemed like a half assed attempt to make and album and thusly more money.

The album isnt bad they're some great songs on it, but you've got to remember, at the end of the day STA is just the songs that where not good enough for toxicity.

[Kyle]

The album isnt bad they're some great songs on it, but you've got to remember, at the end of the day STA is just the songs that where not good enough for toxicity.not really, they are the songs that Daron and Serj didn't deem worthy of Toxicity, doensn't mean we can't like them better. Although as an album I would agree Toxicity sounds more complete STA is the album which got me listening to SOAD.

[mutant!]

I'm I the only one who likes the unreleased demo version of the songs from STA better than the actual album?
I didn't. In fact, I liked the unreleased I-E-A-I-A-I-O immensely - one of my favourite System tracks of the time - until I heard the STA version and got goosebumps (I'm not exaggerating) when the choir backing joined Serj for the chorus.

[Britton]

Can someone explain to me what Radio Video is about and what inspired it?

[+zero+]

can somebody tell me why tabs dont work! i have like soo many tabs now i cant access them.. that pisses me off

[Aaron_Of_Oz]

can somebody tell me why tabs dont work! i have like soo many tabs now i cant access them.. that pisses me off

i think someone hacked the site...theres an announcement about it at the top of the page.
SOAD are a really good band too, the song hypnotize is great

[MrJack]

Well the reason Dam and Johnny arnt on STA is because they are from the ST sessions.

I like STA, they reason I said that is because, the vast majority of fans had already heard the album before toxicity came out.
To me the album just seemed like a half assed attempt to make and album and thusly more money.

The album isnt bad they're some great songs on it, but you've got to remember, at the end of the day STA is just the songs that where not good enough for toxicity.

........:amaze: No. People had heard unfinished beta tracks that weren't meant to be heard in the first place. After actually being approved to be distributed by the band(meaning the bass lines, etc were complete), they released the CD so people wouldn't associate the "half-assed" versions with the band.

And finally, all the songs had been completed along with what was on Toxicity, but you obviously can't put 30 songs on a CD. I don't know where you got that "not good enough" stuff from.

And for the record, I prefer STA more than Toxicity. The way it was released just seems less appealing to people I suppose.

Can someone explain to me what Radio Video is about and what inspired it?

Danny & Lise = Darons childhood friends.

"Hey man look at me rockin out im on the radio...!". Its a tribute song. He doesn't even know if they listen to SOAD or not. But i'd imagine its a cool shoutout. :rolleyes:

[Skit]

........:amaze: No. People had heard unfinished beta tracks that weren't meant to be heard in the first place. After actually being approved to be distributed by the band(meaning the bass lines, etc were complete), they released the CD so people wouldn't associate the "half-assed" versions with the band.

And finally, all the songs had been completed along with what was on Toxicity, but you obviously can't put 30 songs on a CD. I don't know where you got that "not good enough" stuff from.

And for the record, I prefer STA more than Toxicity. The way it was released just seems less appealing to people I suppose.

I say "Not good enough" because out of how ever many songs they had recorded/written they had to choose the "best" for toxicity and what was left over was basically the outtakes and the songs the band didnt deem worthy of toxicity (for whatever reason)

Yes we had a leak of unfinished demo's before STA was released, But isnt that what we've got now with the other unreleased songs?

There are songs on STA which I prefare over Toxicity, Im not slating the album Im just saying the facts.
Highway Song is actually my favorite SOAD song :thumb:

[MrJack]

Highway Song is great. Too bad they don't play it very much. :angry:

[mudvayne420]

can somebody tell me why tabs dont work! i have like soo many tabs now i cant access them.. that pisses me off

Hey man read this here it explains everything

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4508158.stm

man i'm telling you this is some ****ed up ****

[Spiritofmosa]

hope its only mxtabs

[+zero+]

wow.. where is this world going to.. that they have to ban tabs. never thought it get so bad. haha. i just reached 50 tabs (mainly SOAD) and im kinda dissapointed that people wont see these tabs anymore. they took time and effort. hopefully it wont last long

And it is also Taborama.com that has been banned. i used that site alot also. bastards...

[superjoe]

old soad = awesome

anything after the first album = crap

[mutant!]

old soad = awesome

anything after the first album = crap
Wow, ur liek so hXc I wnat 2b liek u omg omg ur teh siht !!!!!11!!!1one

STFU nigga.

[ValeOfShadows]

For some reason i like the live version of kill rock 'n' roll better than the album version.

[+zero+]

For some reason i like the live version of kill rock 'n' roll better than the album version.
its because the drums are better on the live version:thumb: . thats my opinion

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

I got the real Hypnotize yesterday night for Christmas :thumb:
They package thing is so cool. It's just so awesome. It make up for Mezmerize sucking.

[coneren]

For some reason i like the live version of kill rock 'n' roll better than the album version.


I like them both equal, it's one of my favorites.

[stratplayer02]

Hypnotize is one of those songs that will get stuck in my head all day... But I actually want it stuck there. (unlike madona and cher songs. Damn them :angry: ) I just got a bit of christmas money, and thats gonna be one of the CD's I'm getting.

[coneren]

I got it today for christmas.:)

[stratplayer02]

Well, my christmas includes lots of money and giftcards. So my christmas really starts on the 26'th when all the stores opeen up. Tommrow, I'm getting : a wah pedal, Hypnotize, Follow the reaper, The new korn cd, and lunch :thumb:

[coneren]

When i go shopping I am going to buy toxicity and steal this album, thats my shopping for another month.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

I bought there two newest today, after seeing them in the sales, i alraedy ahd them downloaded.

Mezmerise is much better, Revenga and Lost in hollywood are my two faves.

The album art is wierd....

[poprocks&coke]

I bought there two newest today, after seeing them in the sales, i alraedy ahd them downloaded.

Mezmerise is much better, Revenga and Lost in hollywood are my two faves.

The album art is wierd....

I like the art, it's really trippy. My favourite off Mezmerize has to be Radio/Video, but I like Hypnotize better, especially Stealing Society and Vicinity of Obscenity.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

Hey Lilly, fancy meeting you here ! :)

Yeah, Radio/Video is really good.

Cigaro makes me luagh.

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

Yesterday I saw a kid with Mesmerize in his hands. I almost told him to get Hypnotize or s/t instead. But I thought it would be funnier if I let him buy it.

Then I saw the girl I like. She said hi.:cool:
/ sakes his head at how much a loser he is.

[Skit]

Yesterday I saw a kid with Mesmerize in his hands. I almost told him to get Hypnotize or s/t instead. But I thought it would be funnier if I let him buy it.

Then I saw the girl I like. She said hi.:cool:
/ sakes his head at how much a loser he is.

Just because you dont like Mezmerize doesnt mean everyone else wont :angry:

[Angry Balled Fists!]

It's definetley not as good as any of their other albums though.

[Confessed2005]

I have both mezmerize and hypnotize. When you listen to them together, they sound ace! I'm a big fan of Kill Rock n' Roll. Its damn catchy.

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

Just because you dont like Mezmerize doesnt mean everyone else wont :angry:
But I'm trying to help the kid out. Yeah, he should get it (I do have it:p ) but he should get a better one first so that he buys the other ones.

[Skit]

You dont even know him, He could have everything SOAD have ever produced

:amaze:

[YearsOfOppression]

I got the real Hypnotize yesterday night for Christmas :thumb:
They package thing is so cool. It's just so awesome. It make up for Mezmerize sucking.

I personally thought that hypnotize sucked compared to mezmerize. Hypnotize still had some good songs but overall the album wasn't as good. That's just my opinion but everybody has their own.

[Element of LED 435]

Hypnotize and their self titled album are the best
Hypnotize has a couple funky songs with hard driving music and lyrics
System of a down(album) has some of the most catchy metal songs of their history and is the best and i dont wanna flame them becuz theyre one of my favorite bands but steal this album wasnt my taste and toxicity had too many fillers i think and mesmerize was just a bit too many pop like songs

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

You dont even know him, He could have everything SOAD have ever produced

:amaze:
If he had every one, why would he be buying Mesmerize. Shouldn't he have it?
Anyway, let's end this and call it a draw.

soooo... how's the weather?

[+zero+]

haha that was getting a bit too far. i got hupnotize and mezmerize both the day they came out.. i could have bought the mezmerize a day earlier but i was grounded.. damn.

[mutant!]

...I stil haven't heard Hypnotize...

...the album, not the single. Duh.

[I'm Charming]

I hate SOAD and nu metal.. But ... I've heard both and mezmerize is far more withstandible...

[ThatBunnKid]

I really enjoyed their ST,
Toxicity was pretty good,
Steal this album was decent but gettin successively worse,
Didnt care for Mezmerize at all,
and Hypnotize was just ugh....
I think it has something to do with Daron's singing but i can't put my finger on it exactly

[Dillsnufus]

System of a down kick *** I like there new album HYPNOTIZE.

[ValeOfShadows]

But I'm trying to help the kid out. Yeah, he should get it (I do have it:p ) but he should get a better one first so that he buys the other ones.

You cant say to get the better one first because everyone has a different opinion on "better" music. Personally i hate Hypnotize and he might to so giving that kind of advice is pretty useless.

[ValeOfShadows]

I really enjoyed their ST,
Toxicity was pretty good,
Steal this album was decent but gettin successively worse,
Didnt care for Mezmerize at all,
and Hypnotize was just ugh....
I think it has something to do with Daron's singing but i can't put my finger on it exactly

Is it his annoyingly squeely pig whiney vocals.

[ValeOfShadows]

I hate SOAD and nu metal.. But ... I've heard both and mezmerize is far more withstandible...

I used to like the whole nu metal thing but now i hate it. Peoples taste changes.

[Skit]

Triple Post?!
God save us all!!

[+zero+]

i love it how people come to band threads to totally diss the band. its very cool...?

[azbassman]

I got Hypnotize like a week ago...IMO its alot better than mezmerize. I like on Dreaming were they have the two vocals going on at the same time.

[I'm Charming]

I like on Dreaming were they have the two vocals going on at the same time


Dude it's called harmonizing.... You heard that word before?

[I'm Charming]

I used to like the whole nu metal thing but now i hate it. Peoples taste changes.

I can't stand nu metal... I used to like it but I'd shoot myself before I listen to that stuff... Ughh.. It's vile...

[Death Denied]

I am so addicted to System...it's almost (actually is) kinda pathetic.

[SOADgibson]

System of a Down is by far the greatest band ever. They're music is so invigorating that it makes you just wanna punch something!!:smash:, but then they have certain songs that you can just chill to. SOAD in the end is a very versatile band that practices a lot of music and all of it is AMAZING.

[Death Denied]

Lmao...I can't really say that it makes me want to punch something. It just makes me want to pick up my guitar/bass and play/sing along. ^_^

A quick quote from one of my fav songs to finish my day:
"Pull the tapeworm out of me..."

[6stringslinger]

Yes, System of a Down are a great band, I would like to see them in concert one of these days, they definately will be around for a long time, HOWEVER, I seen them on the Fuse giving and interview to that one chick and they are one of the most arrogant group of ***holes I have ever seen ever give an interview in my life. The bass player was the coolest one.....but they are good and they know it...so I guess it is all good

They have a true metal like attitude...
I still have great respect for them as musicians..

[ghettoeddo]

probably been discussed already, but "hypnotize" seems to be very repetitive. daron tremolo picks way too much also.

fave song off of hypnotize is most definitely soldier side. as much as i dont appreciate nu-metal that much, that song does it for me. there's...just something about it. probably my fave SOAD song now and i've heard every single one :]

[Skit]

Gah!! will everyone stop saying nu-metal!

I'll admit the band are probably nu-metal but with all the other **** bands in that genre I hate to class SOAD as that..

:upset:

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

I got Hypnotize like a week ago...IMO its alot better than mezmerize. I like on Dreaming were they have the two vocals going on at the same time.
Actually if I'm not mistaken there are three vocal parts going on at once during the verses.

Gah!! will everyone stop saying nu-metal!

I'll admit the band are probably nu-metal but with all the other **** bands in that genre I hate to class SOAD as that..
Yes I agree. Nu-metal ends here...





..or not. Whatever you choose.

[Moses]

Gah!! will everyone stop saying nu-metal!

I'll admit the band are probably nu-metal but with all the other **** bands in that genre I hate to class SOAD as that..

:upset:
Well just like any genre you have to take the good with the bad.

[ghettoeddo]

doesn't it make soad that much better then? if you classify them as nu-metal, then they're like...the top of teh genre.

maybe im thinking the wrong way.

[Element of LED 435]

Yes, System of a Down are a great band, I would like to see them in concert one of these days, they definately will be around for a long time, HOWEVER, I seen them on the Fuse giving and interview to that one chick and they are one of the most arrogant group of ***holes I have ever seen ever give an interview in my life. The bass player was the coolest one.....but they are good and they know it...so I guess it is all good

They have a true metal like attitude...
I still have great respect for them as musicians..
LMAO i saw that on Uranium i thot it was pretty cool they were doing that being arrogant but daron was the person showing the most and shavo was messin was wit the camera that was a good interview and serj kept his mouth shut most of the time but u cud tell with every little thing he said he was jsut backing up malakian

[ScotJay]

I just found out their two latest albums fit together to make one. It's sweet.

[+zero+]

can someone send like a link of when they were on uranium or whatever and they totally cocked off to julia or whatever? cuz i missed it when it was on tv. so thatd be cool if someone could send me a link. :)

[profesorfrink]

yeah hypnotize and mezmerize fitting together is sweet

[Skit II]

I cant believe you just found out the albums join together :lol:

[DEER17]

I like them, i like them a lot, but maybe i shouldn't,

i don't really think they are nu metal, but i'll admit they arent the most complex band ever. Their songs do differentiate a lot, and for me anyway they are all good. I just wish that some of there fans would be a bit more mature. maybe a little less....SOAD OMG WTF PWNS YOU...and a little more common decency.

ps* they aren't the best band ever

[+zero+]

so about that uranium thing......

[victor_claypool]

anyone else read in the new "guitar world" magazine, Yngwie was making fun of SOAD, just a sentence or two. That swedish bastard. oh well, its not the first time he has done something like this.

[Death Denied]

Yes, System of a Down are a great band, I would like to see them in concert one of these days, they definately will be around for a long time, HOWEVER, I seen them on the Fuse giving and interview to that one chick and they are one of the most arrogant group of ***holes I have ever seen ever give an interview in my life. The bass player was the coolest one.....but they are good and they know it...so I guess it is all good

They have a true metal like attitude...
I still have great respect for them as musicians..
I missed them in concert when they came to where I am. So sad. :( Oh well. But from what I've read they don't seem that arrogant...then again, reading is much different then having them actually talk.


I just wish that some of there fans would be a bit more mature. maybe a little less....SOAD OMG WTF PWNS YOU...and a little more common decency.

ps* they aren't the best band ever
I'd nod and agree with you but...
*Looks at title and avatar...*
I'm not exactly what one would call...*clicks*...mature.

[PepsiMetal]

anyone else read in the new "guitar world" magazine, Yngwie was making fun of SOAD, just a sentence or two. That swedish bastard. oh well, its not the first time he has done something like this.

I thought he said something good about them? :confused: :confused: :confused:

I remember reading something here and someone said he said he likes soad's music or something like that. Just type out what he said.

[_x_darkfairy_x_]

SOAD are good, but waaaay over rated.

[Kyle]

SOAD are good, but waaaay over rated.yeah, people who are saying they are the best band ever are crazy. I know that's their oppinion and bla bla bla, but honestly there are bands far more innovative and interesting than SOAD.

Hypnotize was good, I prefered Mezmerise in the end though.

[YearsOfOppression]

System of a Down is by far the greatest band ever. They're music is so invigorating that it makes you just wanna punch something!!:smash:, but then they have certain songs that you can just chill to. SOAD in the end is a very versatile band that practices a lot of music and all of it is AMAZING.

How is system the greatest band ever? After listening to hypnotize a couple of times i have'nt listend to them again. they are getting worse than i could have thought. If they still want to be a GOOD band Daron has to stop singing and let Serj do it. Yes Everyone has their own opinions but there is no way that they are the greatest band ever.

[Mein bass]

Ah system.
One of my favorite bands as a matter of fact.
Metal for are generation. :chug:
That uranium interview was hilarious.John and Shavo were just sitting there watching it most of the time,except when John said something smart and Daron interupted him.
But the best part....
Julia: That's it im out of here.
Serj: No no stay I love fuse.
I don't know why but that had me cracking up :lol:

[Anthem]

anyone else read in the new "guitar world" magazine, Yngwie was making fun of SOAD, just a sentence or two. That swedish bastard. oh well, its not the first time he has done something like this.

Yes, Ive heard hes VERY arrogent.

[A_Guy]

I don't know if this has been posted before, but i found a sweet SOAD concert on google video, 42 mins long. Im only at 8 minutes and so far theyve only played stuff from their first album. Good waych anyway.

[+zero+]

geuss what? im going to watch soad on uranium now. yay!

[mutant!]

Gah!! will everyone stop saying nu-metal!

I'll admit the band are probably nu-metal but with all the other **** bands in that genre I hate to class SOAD as that..

:upset:
Just like Feeder give punk a good name (/hates punk), SOAD are a shining bastion of musicality in the mire of sh*te that is nu-metal. I'm not generalising, I just mean a lot of successful nu-metal bands play really unoriginal music.

[Blank]

I like SOAD...I like them alot.
My favorite album would have to be there self titled,then toxicity.
And yes I actually am a fan of mezmerize...and hypnotize is growing on me.Attack is a wicked song.
Yes without a doubt soad is probally one of my favorite current bands.

[mbrinton138]

One thing that was said at the first post:

Victems of a Down was a poem that Daron wrote....I dont THINK it was ever used as a band name.

But yes, System of a Down is amaizng. Daron is by far my guitar idol. Proud to say I play a Ibanez iceman model :)

[mbrinton138]

I don't know if this has been posted before, but i found a sweet SOAD concert on google video, 42 mins long. Im only at 8 minutes and so far theyve only played stuff from their first album. Good waych anyway.

If that is up to date, I would LOVE to have that link. other than that, I have their BDO concerts downloaded...on the 05 show I dont have that much, but I would love to hear them do their old stuff now. Expecially P.L.U.C.K. or Sugar.

[MrJack]

Im pretty sure he's talking about the show at Whisky. Easily one of their best old shows ever. I watched it on google a few weeks ago...let me find the link....

Edit- That was fast. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5298788966424691415&q=live+at+whisky

[mbrinton138]

thanks, this will be great

[DWJK]

I personally liked Mez better than Hypnotize.

The way I see it..

Mez
Violent P0rn
Old School/Lost In Hollywood
Sad Statue
Cigaro
B.Y.O.B
Revenga
Radio/Video

Hyp
Stealing Society
Vicinity of Obscenity
Lonely Day (Awesome song, shoulda bee longer though!)
Tenative
Attack

In my honest opinion, Mez just has more GOOD songs.

[A-S-S-H-A-T]

true, but in my opinion their older stuff, destroys all the newer stuff.... but bands change over time (e.g. metallica)

[Blank]

Tenative is probally one of hyps better songs.I loved it.
But sill,I hope Daron decides to stick to backup.I feel bad for Serj.

[mbrinton138]

Serj wanted Daron to sing. I was reading something and Serj felt that since Daron wrote most of the material (from Toxicity - Hypnotize) he should get to sing it. Daron is an amaizng singer, too. Daron also said something about it being hard for someone to get the same emotion while singing your songs if its about your life.

[Blank]

Well I guess that makes sence.
And there letting Serj play keyboard alot more so I guess he doesn't felt left out.
But he did write Vicinity of Obscenity which has the best chorus ever :lol:

[A_Guy]

Im pretty sure he's talking about the show at Whisky. Easily one of their best old shows ever. I watched it on google a few weeks ago...let me find the link....

Edit- That was fast. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5298788966424691415&q=live+at+whisky

Ya, thats the one. i completely forgot to post the link and didnt realize until now. Sorry

[mbrinton138]

I love Stealing Society, Dreaming, and Soilder Side. Serj and Daron Harmonize very well on Soilder Side.

[Blank]

I love how Serj plays keyboard in about every song now.
And yes the singing was excelent in soilder side.
But I like soilder side intro to....THIS close to being an insturmental.

[mbrinton138]

the little bonus thing at the end of aerials is instramental...and its...good...?

[Blank]

Yeahhhh it's good.
I want John to have a drum solo in a song.That'd be pretty cool....but I can't really see them doing that.
Ah man...I can't stop listening to Tentative.
That female chorus thing is awesome.

[mbrinton138]

Every second of playing that System does is a drum solo for John, the drumming is crazy-cool

[Moses]

I liked Hypnotize but it's more of a "face value" type record than Mesmerize. I'd say I like both equally and Hypnotize still brings back the old overinventive SOAD that we all love.

[Blank]

Yeah.
Attack sounds like old school soad somewhat.
I like the bass lines through the whole hypnotize cd.
And the guitar in tentative.
And the drumming in the intro to attack... :naughty:

[YearsOfOppression]

Serj wanted Daron to sing. I was reading something and Serj felt that since Daron wrote most of the material (from Toxicity - Hypnotize) he should get to sing it. Daron is an amaizng singer, too. Daron also said something about it being hard for someone to get the same emotion while singing your songs if its about your life.

Are you sure Daron is an amazing singer? Everyone who i talk to think that Daron shouldn't be singing. They all think that he can't sing for ****. Most people wreckon that letting daron sing is holding SOAD from being better than what they already are. If Daron focused on just playing guitar i think that they would be a much better band.

[Benzum]

Daron can sing, very well, his voice goes perfectly with Serj.

The new records are all well and musically promising, but I still prefer the self-titled along with Toxicity.

[YearsOfOppression]

But it's so whiny.

[Benzum]

But it's so whiny.

I think it suits the band.

[YearsOfOppression]

OK maybe it suits the band but it is very annoying. Do you think that if it was just Serj singing and Daron focused more on guitar that they would be better? Daron should probably only do backup vocals like he did on ST and Toxicity.

[Benzum]

No, Serj can get annoying on his own after a while. Daron isn't really very good on guitar anyway, so I don't think it would make much of a difference, at least it gives them a fuller band sound.