The System of a Down Thread (MXican Radio #4)

[Skit]

They actually won!

:lol:

[PepsiMetal]

When was this, and what 2 songs did they play?

[Skit]

It was on Thurday 8pm in England.

SOAD would best alternative band and didnt seem to pleased, They played BYOB.

I made a mistake and thought there where performing 2 songs. :thumb:

[XhadoX]

personally i thought mezmerize was a pretty cool album but after hearing the song hypnotize i think the album i just gunna be a repeat of mezmerize

[nedab]

I thought mezmerize was ok definetly not system at their best, ill buy hypnotize but im not expecting much from it.

[Six Foot Revolver]

personally i thought mezmerize was a pretty cool album but after hearing the song hypnotize i think the album i just gunna be a repeat of mezmerize
Well what do you expect when they were both written and recorded at the same time.

[Iron Bars]

I heard the first single of off the new album the other day and I wasn't impressed to say the least. I was waiting for something completly weird to happen during the song but it was just alot of pretty strait foreward riffs without the usual SOAD feel to it. I hope the rest of the album is better cuz I actually liked the last album after writing them off a couple of years ago after Toxicity.

[Spiritofmosa]

my personal favourites from mesmerize would be the cocaine song, sad statue , and cigaro.

[Reywas]

People hate Mezmerize because they like to whine about how much SOAD's lyrics suck now.I actually don't give a **** about lyrics in a band like SOAD, as long as they're catchy they are fine by me.

And all you whiners go read some books.

[Spiritofmosa]

hyptonize is gonna rock with tracks like holy mountain and kill rock and roll

[Tele_Dude]

I know three people who have heard Hypnotize, at the Kerrang listening session, and they all said that it was WAY better than Mezmerize.

[deejuks2]

I like what they're doing with "Solier Side", even though the song name sucks big time.

[stevo_13]

I know three people who have heard Hypnotize, at the Kerrang listening session, and they all said that it was WAY better than Mezmerize.
I sure hope it is cause Mezmerize was pretty dissapointing

[i am the robots]

Well, the more albums they release, the more money they make, and we all know that's the only thing they think of.

You are an idiot.

[Adm1R]

hyptonize is gonna rock with tracks like holy mountain and kill rock and roll
True...:thumb:

[Chris]

It was on Thurday 8pm in England.

SOAD would best alternative band and didnt seem to pleased, They played BYOB.

I made a mistake and thought there where performing 2 songs. :thumb:

I thought that there performance was quite poor really.

[Tele_Dude]

I think it rocked! Daron was crazy, I loved the "SUCK MY D!ICK!" part!
And when the song usually ends, it just took off.. That was rad, man.

[Tele_Dude]

You are an idiot.


Amen.

I hate it when people say that about bands that release double-albums.

[Turkish]

B.Y.O.B was a crap song in my opinion, my least favourite off Mesmerize. Mesmerize itself is probably the worst System album so far but from what I have heard of Hypnotize, their new release has the potential to be a brilliant album.


how do you think it would compare to their first cd. Their first cd was genious.

[Rushki Smushki]

I loved the first one, it was just so raw and heavy, but at the same time very clever with its melodies and lyrics.

Mezmerize was great, I can't believe Cigaro has only been mentioned once, come ON people, tsk tsk...

Can't wait for Hypnotize. It probably will be another Mezmerize, but I've loved all the cd's, and I doubt this coming one will dissapoint me.

I read about Serj saying that "Vicinity of Obscenity" is the craziest song he's ever written. Considering tracks like "F*ck the System", it's going to very interesting too hear it all...

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

Any of you dudes seen the Hypnotize video?

Daron's hair is pretty sweet. :thumb:

[lak89]

it's called Hypnotize and it's the second part of their two part album, the first part was mezmerize

[i am the robots]

Amen.

I hate it when people say that about bands that release double-albums.

ZOMG EVERYBODY HOO GETZ POPPULLER IZ A SELLOUT!!!!!1

[PepsiMetal]

People hate Mezmerize because they like to whine about how much SOAD's lyrics suck now.I actually don't give a **** about lyrics in a band like SOAD, as long as they're catchy they are fine by me.

And all you whiners go read some books.

Actually their lyrics are pretty good, they just find one line in some song like Why do they always send the poor, and then judge all soad's lyrics from that line/song. Seriously, mezmerize has great lyrics. Sad Statue, Revenga, question, etc.. Oh well, we'll see what comes out of hypnotize.

I think soad's best work was in toxicity. Chop suey, needles, deer dance, toxicity, aerials, etc.. All great songs.

[YDload]

I thought that Mezmerize was their best album since the self-titled. Question was my favorite song off of it and I was pleasantly surprised it became a single. Hopefully Hypnotize will be good as well.

People don't seem to realize that SOAD is a very progressive band. The problem is that their biggest fans are also the most retarded, and they don't understand that progressive bands tend to... well, PROGRESS from album to album. If something isn't exactly the same after each record they cry foul and say the band has "sold out" or lost its edge. The "sellout" line is the most laughable, since every album has had a single and music video from it, and SOAD never loses its edge because they've always got something to rant about, as well as the obligatory silly song.

So stop whining and just chalk it up to personal preference. The album doesn't have to be great to you, but you can't just invent reasons for it other than your opinion.

[TojesDolan]

Well what do you expect when they were both written and recorded at the same time.
"The fragile" by NIN was written and recorded at the same time, yet one disc is much, much better than the other one.

It's all relative, my friend. :)

[Skit]

Daron's hair is pretty sweet. :thumb:

You cant be serious!?

:amaze:

[Spiritofmosa]

what wrong with daaron . He was acting like an idiot on Television , cant he relax a lil

[Skit]

Probably on the dope again :lol:

[Spiritofmosa]

dope?
i think he needs dope to get himself relaxed

[nowitzki]

Daron's hair sure does look stupid on the new video. I'm not very impressed by the song, one of their weaker efforts, lets hope the album is good.

[Scott_Thrasher]

yer, he really should relax.com eon!

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

They were all walking in circles up there at the end. They looked a little confused to me.

Post # 700 :thumb:

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I'm not really feeling that song. :-/

[xrockerachickx]

yeah, me neither... what happened to their music? *crosses fingers* their album better b good

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

I thought it was pretty good. Still I know they're capable of better.

[laba]

^My thoughts too on that song. I thought it was aiight.

[BlindWriting]

Hypnotize the song is pretty good. I still think Question! is one of their best songs ever and is easily the highlight of Mezmerize.

[mutant!]

123, Question! is awesome. Coincidentally, a week before I hear the album for the first time, I rediscovered a now-defunct local band called Tananas which plays this blend of Brazilian, Spanish, West African and jazz music. They sound like Question! minus the distortion, and with Portuguese vocals.

So obviously, I, liek, t0t@lly fl1pped 0ut when I heard the song.

[GermFreeAdolescent]

I like the new song Hypnotize, although I have a feeling that this "Direction" they took with the Mezmerize/Hypnotize is going to either make them better or ruin it for me. I'll just have to wait and see... and listen to alot of the self titled.

[xrockerachickx]

i am scared but pretty sure it'll ruin them

[love_hate]

i love soad, hypnotize should be killer, i love the song of the same name.

and i saw them at bdo, that was sick,
but slipknot were b4 them, and there btter

[mudvayne420]

You know what i think that mezmerize is like steal this album. Because you know how daron said there were so many songs they decided to release a double album. i think that mezmerize is the songs that werent probably going to be on the cd, and the songs on hypnotize are the Actual album songs.

[mutant!]

I doubt they did it like that. Seeing as how Mezmerize starts off with Soldier Side Intro and Hypnotize closes with Soldier Side. I think it was one of those "we want 20 tracks on an album" things, where they just decided to split it.

[PepsiMetal]

You know what i think that mezmerize is like steal this album. Because you know how daron said there were so many songs they decided to release a double album. i think that mezmerize is the songs that werent probably going to be on the cd, and the songs on hypnotize are the Actual album songs.

No, they said there are too many good songs to just make a one album so they wanted to make 2 so that people could hear all the songs. If they did that, that would be crap. I mean STA wasn't a double CD for the toxicity, which is what hypnotize is to mesmerize if that makes any sense. :upset:

[The Persian]

It's annoying that Daron is singing more because Serj is like one attribute that makes the band what it is. I like Daron's random interludes and **** but Serj's unique vocals make it sick. Anyways their show in Oakland was jizzworthy. Can't wait til' hypnotize. Fin.

[PepsiMetal]

Yea Serj is definetely a better vocalist. Daron is good in small doses, but can get annoying fast.

[Turkish]

I don't think they'll be able to top their first cd in my eyes. I'm hoping they can...but it seems lately they've been spewing out crap.


Question! and Cigaro are the only songs I really enjoyed off their new cd.

[PepsiMetal]

I liked toxicity more than self titled and all other albums. Just so many great songs on there.

[nori]

My favorite SOAD song... Suite Pee.. So f***** awesome!

[Turkish]

I liked toxicity more than self titled and all other albums. Just so many great songs on there.


I thought the self-titled had so much more substance though. Songs I think of from their first cd compared to Toxicity just are soo much better imo.

[Jim]

Toxicity had a bit of filler for me, or atleast a few lowlights. The self-titled though is pretty good all the way through. More substance too, I agree.

[laba]

Serj has a fantastic range, I'm really loving "ATWA" lately..

[Werny]

Yea Serj is definetely a better vocalist. Daron is good in small doses, but can get annoying fast.

I love it when Daron does the whole harmonising thing with Serj (P.L.U.C.K... *drools profusely*), but his try-hard hardcore screaming is just plain ridiculous. Except on B.Y.O.B, his singing altogether is ridiculous on that.

[mutant!]

Serj has a fantastic range, I'm really loving "ATWA" lately..
That's what classical/opera training will do for you. I'm getting mine in 2007, when I step into varsity... :cool:

[.:Thrasher:.]

1st time poster in this thread
i wold have to say that B.Y.O.B is my favorite song

[Jim]

'Question' mine. But are we just talking Mesmerize or all System? In the latter case - 'Deer Dance'........or 'Sugar'.

[Rusty Metal Head]

I like the self titled album the best. Altough Ive heard the songs they did with Wu Tang Clan and some guy called Kittie and they are great. System should do more rap.

[mutant!]

I like the self titled album the best. Altough Ive heard the songs they did with Wu Tang Clan and some guy called Kittie and they are great. System should do more rap.
Kittie is not a guy, they're an all-girl death metal band.

I love your avatar. Jark rules. :cool:

[Skit]

"This sucks! We are not rappers!" - Daron after performing shame live :lol:


I'm listening to hypnotize at the moment... Quality is god awful but its still a SOAD album...

Hypnotize owns Mezmerize!

[Kyle]

are you listening to the song?...or has the album leaked?

[Skit]

The album:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=38FY6HLR

I wouldnt call it a leak, Its recorded from one of the prelistening sessions from kerrang... From the quality it sounds like someone walked in with a mic up there *** :lol:

[blackout]

"This sucks! We are not rappers!" - Daron after performing shame live :lol:


I'm listening to hypnotize at the moment... Quality is god awful but its still a SOAD album...

Hypnotize owns Mezmerize!
:amaze: Where'd you get it from? Do you have soulseek?

EDIT: Nevermind :D

[Turkish]

I love it when Daron does the whole harmonising thing with Serj (P.L.U.C.K... *drools profusely*), but his try-hard hardcore screaming is just plain ridiculous. Except on B.Y.O.B, his singing altogether is ridiculous on that.


OMG YES, I 100% agree with you. P.L.U.C.K. is my favorite song ever by SOAD. I tell people who love system about that song...and they just stare at me blankly.


Soil, P.L.U.C.K., Spiders, Suggestions....hell the whole first cd is amazing.

[pasulpepe]

Did anyone else find Steal This Album quite dissappointing?

WHAT? that was one of the best albums, toxicity got too commercial and popular, same with mesmerize

[pasulpepe]

I have to say that serj deeply surpasses daron, his vocals are not very good. The screaming? awful The harmonizing? not good but not awful

has anyone listened to serart? It is a compilation by Serj Tankian and Arto Tunc Boyacian. Arto is a turkish man who has excellent vocals. Its not a very hard album, and SerjicalStrike.com said that serj and arto just sent into the studio and did it all in one day. Shavo mixes in one of songs. Its odd, but it grows on you. I think it is fantastic.

[pasulpepe]

Where do i go to change my profile?

[Rusty Metal Head]

Kittie is not a guy, they're an all-girl death metal band.

I love your avatar. Jark rules. :cool:

wait..then who was the black guy singing all the rap?

[Rusty Metal Head]

has anyone listened to serart? It is a compilation by Serj Tankian and Arto Tunc Boyacian. Arto is a turkish man who has excellent vocals. Its not a very hard album, and SerjicalStrike.com said that serj and arto just sent into the studio and did it all in one day. Shavo mixes in one of songs. Its odd, but it grows on you. I think it is fantastic.


I got it when it first came out. i love it. :P

[laba]

What song do you prefer between Roulette and Spiders?..just a general question..

[mutant!]

What song do you prefer between Roulette and Spiders?..just a general question..
I've only heard Roulette once, long ago, so I couldn't say. I know how the guitar goes though (a friend taught me) so I'd say Roulette > Spiders. Both are awesome songs though.

[Jim]

Kinda different songs. I'd prefer Spiders, but Roullette's nice and "mellow".

[hotsmoke]

OMG JOHN DOLMAYAN WHAT A BLOODY DRUMMMER !!! LIKE HES SOOOO GOOD!!!THAT ALSO WITH NO DOUBLE BASS:p

[mutant!]

Whatever, n00b. He does have a double bass. But he is really good, unlike the vast majority of current heavy drummers, he knows how to gooi a more rustig (chill) groove (as opposed to eighth notes on the bass with random cymbals on top).

[Skit]

John does have a double bass actually :thumb:

[laba]

Well that was pretty random, but on the topic of John, I think he is great, He has got some wicked stuff and he is one of my Favourite Drummers.

[xrockerachickx]

What song do you prefer between Roulette and Spiders?..just a general question..
definately SPIDERS.... its like slow, mellow, and then hard and rough.... i love it!

[xrockerachickx]

I've only heard Roulette once, long ago, so I couldn't say. I know how the guitar goes though (a friend taught me) so I'd say Roulette > Spiders. Both are awesome songs though.
so u r wrong! haha jk. well u r right in them being awesome, but hands down, spiders wins

[Jake_badass_bassist]

yeah i prefer spiders to roulette.

[azbassman]

I love the bass on spiders...farly simple yet it sounds so good

[Werny]

OMG YES, I 100% agree with you. P.L.U.C.K. is my favorite song ever by SOAD. I tell people who love system about that song...and they just stare at me blankly.


Soil, P.L.U.C.K., Spiders, Suggestions....hell the whole first cd is amazing.

P.L.U.C.K is all that SOAD is about. The theme of genocide, the psycho fast parts, the clean and catchy riff and the mellowed out part (which gets me everytime).

It's definitely their best track.

I really don't know what it is about the first CD, but yes there is something there that keeps me hooked on it. Everytime I listen to it I feel like I've had an experience similar to a Tool or Opeth album, which is saying something.

And PEEPHOLE!

Now a question; what's the story behind Soil? I know they were called Soil before System of a Down so... was Soil recorded back then, or at least written? It's just that the drumming, slappings of profanity and only slightly distorted guitar make it seem more punkish and demo-ish. And I think the production is different.

[Skit]

When they where soil they didnt write any songs that are now assosiated with SOAD.
Soil mainly just jammed and never recorded any real songs.

Soil was written around 96-97, Recorded as a demo in 97 and Recorded on the album in 98 :thumb:

[mutant!]

so u r wrong! haha jk. well u r right in them being awesome, but hands down, spiders wins
I actually went to the CD store today and listened to STA. Roulette pwns Spiders.

[laba]

^ I say otherwise. Spiders > Roulette for me. Both are awesome songs though.

What songs do you love Serj's Voice best in?
What songs do you appreciate Daron's vocals in?

For Serj, I am loving ATWA right now, it shows his range well.

[Werny]

^ I say otherwise. Spiders > Roulette for me. Both are awesome songs though.

What songs do you love Serj's Voice best in?
What songs do you appreciate Daron's vocals in?

For Serj, I am loving ATWA right now, it shows his range well.

Roulette, for me, doesn't have the power of Spiders. Spiders has one of the greatest riffs ever.

I love Serj's vocals best in Suggestions, and I only really like Daron's singing in P.L.U.C.K.

[mutant!]

Everyone is talking P.L.U.C.K. but I haven't heard it. (My SOAD mp3 collection is highly disorganized and scattered.) As far as Serj is concerned, ATWA is quite good for showing his range off and all that but I love his part in Deer Dance. As for Daron, I'm loving Lost In Hollywood and the outro to Aerials.

[Skit]

So... The album leaked! :thumb:

:D

[mutant!]

So... The album leaked! :thumb:

:D
Link NOW.

[Spiritofmosa]

i think its on mtv.com

[mutant!]

...Torrent.

My ISP blocks p2p.

:upset: x10^23

[clearvision]

Lolz, Viva la old style soad.

[Stormrider]

I saw the video of Hypnotize yesterday. It was the first time I heard the song. And I find it to be pretty ordinary. SOAD have done a lot better IMO.

[clearvision]

Yeah the single is pants. The album is not.

[clearvision]

Haven't had enough time to absorb it. I've only span it once.

It has more variation than mesmerize. But i don't know, i loved some moments of mesmerize...BYOB, Question!, Revenga, Sad Statue, Lost in hollywood.

I think it will satisfy most fans. Attack is very heavy reminiscent of s/t, as is vicinity of obscenity. Whereas Hypnotize and lonley day are more of a mesmerize style.

Darron again plays a big part in the singing. But i'm kind of used to his voice now so t doesn't bother me as much. Serj screams quite a bit which is good. I suppose you'll all ahev to see for yourself. It's on torrentspy if you want it. I would upload but it's not allowed anymore :-/

[Stormrider]

Haven't had enough time to absorb it. I've only span it once.

It has more variation than mesmerize. But i don't know, i loved some moments of mesmerize...BYOB, Question!, Revenga, Sad Statue, Lost in hollywood.

I think it will satisfy most fans. Attack is very heavy reminiscent of s/t, as is vicinity of obscenity. Whereas Hypnotize and lonley day are more of a mesmerize style.

Darron again plays a big part in the singing. But i'm kind of used to his voice now so t doesn't bother me as much. Serj screams quite a bit which is good. I suppose you'll all ahev to see for yourself. It's on torrentspy if you want it. I would upload but it's not allowed anymore :-/

I rather Serj's singing then Darron. I mean it was okay when he sang every now and then but now its almost always.

Well its good then that it doesnt sound to much like Mezmorize. Its also good that theres some reflections from their first album. Their self titled is probably their best to me.

[clearvision]

Toxicity is their best, but i can't put my finger on why. In an interview in Kerrang! (yeah sh!t we know) Darron says he is singing because it's difficult to let serj sing about his feelings, Darron feels he needs to sing them.

I will give it another listen later and report back with an updated opinion.

[Spiritofmosa]

Toxicity is their best, but i can't put my finger on why. In an interview in Kerrang! (yeah sh!t we know) Darron says he is singing because it's difficult to let serj sing about his feelings, Darron feels he needs to sing them.

I will give it another listen later and report back with an updated opinion.

how long is hypnotize?

[Skit]

About 40 minuites I think :thumb:

Great album, Miles better than Mezmerize.

[Six Foot Revolver]

how long is hypnotize?
39:46

Great album, Miles better than Mezmerize.
Definately, not as good as Toxicity or there self titled though.

[Elnimio]

The new album is pretty good so far.

[azbassman]

i havent heard anything off of Hypnotize yet.....and is it even out yet, i thought it came out like November 21 or 22

[Six Foot Revolver]

i havent heard anything off of Hypnotize yet.....and is it even out yet, i thought it came out like November 21 or 22
It's been leaked.

[Skit]

not as good as Toxicity or there self titled though.

Im not sure, Certainly the whole album isnt, But some odd songs are as good if not better......

[azbassman]

It's been leaked.
ah...that explains it.

[Tele_Dude]

Dude, this album ROCKS!!!

Vicinity of Obcenity, Lonely Day, She's Like Heroin, and Tentative are the best songs, imo. Way better than Mezmerize.

[victor_claypool]

I new album is really great. There is not a bad song on it.

[PepsiMetal]

Hypnotize is definetely better than mesmerize. Better than all soad albums except toxicity. Toxicity is still their number 1 imo.

Hypnotize has lots of clean acoustic guitar work though.

[clearvision]

Someone help me with the chorus to tentative..

We're going down in a spiral [what are these words?]

[PepsiMetal]

We're going down in a spiral putter ground? Or something like that.

[Kyle]

can anybody link where I can download the leak.....I can't use the megaupload thing already posted.

[PepsiMetal]

http://www.mininova.org has it.

Choose one that has crap load of seeds.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

It says it's down for a couple of hours. :upset: I'll get it later, perhaps.

[Skit]

Heres the lyrics from tentative:
"We're going down, in a spiral to the ground, No One, No ones gonna save us now."


I love the lyrics to She's Like Heroin
"Chinese Tricks and rooms with ghosts of hooker girly-dudes"

Refering to buying a hooker only to find out "shes" a lady-boy? :lol:





If anyone wants to know some lyrics just ask, I've got a damn good ear for SOAD :thumb:

[Deconstruction]

WHAT? that was one of the best albums, toxicity got too commercial and popular, same with mesmerize
You think there bad because of being commercia? I thought STA was horrible. Anyone have/heard Hypnotize.

[clearvision]

Heres the lyrics from tentative:
"We're going down, in a spiral to the ground, No One, No ones gonna save us now."


I love the lyrics to She's Like Heroin
"Chinese Tricks and rooms with ghosts of hooker girly-dudes"

Refering to buying a hooker only to find out "shes" a lady-boy? :lol:





If anyone wants to know some lyrics just ask, I've got a damn good ear for SOAD :thumb:


Haha thanks...

http://torrentspy.com

[Sleeper]

Well i just listened to Hypnotize and i have to say that it is way heavier than i expected. Serj and Daron out do themselves vocally on this album, it will take some time to grow on me though.

[xrockerachickx]

wait! how have u guys listened to all the songs? doesnt it come out on the 22nd?

[PepsiMetal]

Holy crap those screams in attack are pretty intense. This album is alot heavier and more intense than mezmerize. Isn't if funny how hypnotize is like the weakest track just like how BYOB was one of the weakest on the mezmerize? lol

[Ovenmitt]

So the Soil that did Halo isn't SOAD in disguise? And there's also Soilwork and so on that begin with soil, so I'm confuzzled....:confused:

[PepsiMetal]

As far as I know soilwork is a completely different band than soil which was soad. But I dont know much about old soad.

[Skit]

Its all conicidence.
Serj and Daron has a band called soil back before '95 then they formed SOAD consisting of:

Serj: Vocals
Daron: Guitar
Shavo: Bass
Andy: Drums

Andy left in '97 for reasons I cant remember right now, and they replaced him with John :thumb:

[Spiritofmosa]

hypnotize.. heavier that mesmerize , more melodic than toxicity. its a great album, nothing like mesmerize

[Hygiliak]

:D My first post here...

System of a Down is definitely my favorite band. Their "pure schitzofrenical" music is just the thing for me... Personally, I like the first 2 albums 100%. Best music ever. Songs like Spiders, War, Mind, Toxicity, Deer Dance, Sugar, Soil, Chop Suey and Aerials are godly... I can see that many people here have been disappointed by steal this album? WHY? How can u say that Mr Jack, Highway Song, Ego Brain, STREAMLINE, and others are not good... only Chick' N' Stu and .36 are shallower... Mesmerize waz quite puzzling to me... I like Question(the best), Cigaro, Byob, Sad Statue, Revenga, Radio/Video... and the new Hypnotize is awesome! Overall I think that we are to wait for many nice songs from them in the future.

About their live performances... serj is a great vocal, while daron... kinda sucks at this... and Shavo is pretty fast on bass I have seen him playing cigaro... the drummer also has some speed in him... so it's all ok :thumb:

See you around earthlings...

[Spiritofmosa]

Daron KEEP SINGING!!!

[Stormrider]

Holy crap those screams in attack are pretty intense. This album is alot heavier and more intense than mezmerize. Isn't if funny how hypnotize is like the weakest track just like how BYOB was one of the weakest on the mezmerize? lol

IMO, BYOB was one of the best on Mezmorize.

[mutant!]

:D My first post here...

System of a Down is definitely my favorite band. Their "pure schitzofrenical" music is just the thing for me... Personally, I like the first 2 albums 100%. Best music ever. Songs like Spiders, War, Mind, Toxicity, Deer Dance, Sugar, Soil, Chop Suey and Aerials are godly... I can see that many people here have been disappointed by steal this album? WHY? How can u say that Mr Jack, Highway Song, Ego Brain, STREAMLINE, and others are not good... only Chick' N' Stu and .36 are shallower... Mesmerize waz quite puzzling to me... I like Question(the best), Cigaro, Byob, Sad Statue, Revenga, Radio/Video... and the new Hypnotize is awesome! Overall I think that we are to wait for many nice songs from them in the future.

About their live performances... serj is a great vocal, while daron... kinda sucks at this... and Shavo is pretty fast on bass I have seen him playing cigaro... the drummer also has some speed in him... so it's all ok :thumb:

See you around earthlings...
Question owns. And Cigaro, and BYOB. People need to stop being purist. This is pure SOAD 'cause it's still the same band playing and writing the music. So stfu you "loyal" fans of the "old" SOAD.

EDIT: I'm not talking to this guy, I'm talking to some other people on this thread.

Welcome to the forums man. :thumb:

[Six Foot Revolver]

IMO, BYOB was one of the best on Mezmorize.
It was my least favourite on the album.

[dUSK]

It was my least favourite on the album.

Same here, along with Cigaro. I really thought Mesmerize was going to be bad when those songs we leaked, but it turned out pretty good. I also fail to see why the majority of people hate Daron's vocals. I love them.

[Kyle]

I like Daron's vocals, but not as much as Serj's. Although I like it best when Daron does backing vocals, they harmonize so nicely.

[nowitzki]

I like Daron's vocals, but not as much as Serj's. Although I like it best when Daron does backing vocals, they harmonize so nicely.

I agree with that, I'm not so keen on Daron on his own, but together they sound great.

NP: Ddevil :thumb:

[Ninja Bass Man]

I think Daron's an okay singer, but i think he's a BAAAAADAAAAAAASSSS on guitar, as far as most people who both play an instrument and sing at the same time.

My favorite songs are "This Cocaine Makes me Feel Like I'm On This Song", "Sad Statue", "Old School Hollywood" and "Lost in Hollywood"

[_HiGhVoLtAgE_]

is hypnotize out yet? if not when is it coming out

[_HiGhVoLtAgE_]

I think Daron's an okay singer, but i think he's a BAAAAADAAAAAAASSSS on guitar, as far as most people who both play an instrument and sing at the same time.

My favorite songs are "This Cocaine Makes me Feel Like I'm On This Song", "Sad Statue", "Old School Hollywood" and "Lost in Hollywood"
i think hes a great singer there would be no s.o.a.d without him

[Six Foot Revolver]

is hypnotize out yet? if not when is it coming out
It has been leaked but its official release date isn't until later in the month I think.

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

You know I really don't like Daron's vocals, but they are actually really good on Hypnotize (the song).

[clearvision]

This album is solid.

toxicity > mesmerize > hypnotize > s/t > STA

at the moment....some of the choruses are great, tentative, holy mountain etc.

[The_Riddler]

So the Soil that did Halo isn't SOAD in disguise? And there's also Soilwork and so on that begin with soil, so I'm confuzzled....:confused:

Soil and Soilwork are complete different bands and sadly I had to find that out the hard way. I bought a Soil cd thinking it was Soilwork and I was let down quite a bit because I had just bought the album and I couldn't get it returned for a refund. Soilwork though, is one of my favorite metal bands.

The new album of System of a Down, I can't wait for. I am not a huge fan of theirs, but I have all the rest of their albums so might as well buy this one also. I do listen to them occasionally, and hearing Hypnotize it sounds like a strong album, so whenever it's released I can't wait to hear it.

..where can I hear the leaked songs?

[Hygiliak]

Wow, man I just listened to Temper today... that's a nice **** song!!! Most of the unreleased material is awsome... Marmelade, Metro, Snowblind, Temper, Shame on a Nigga, evan that ol demo Blue, really good stuff. Personally, only Defy You sucks, mostly because of the lyrics...

[Skit]

I prefare the Defy You lyrics to Nuguns.
I'd have the Defy You lyrics with the Nuguns instruments :thumb:

[Ultimate Donky]

Hypnotize is a lot better than Mezmerize. I'm sure the haters will still hate, but these songs are some of the best ever written by SOAD, no doubt about it. Daron's singing is much less annoying than on Mezmerize as well, which was my main complaint.

[The_Riddler]

I really don't mind Darons singing, not at all. I actually like listening to him sing, and hope he would do it more. I know that might seem odd, but there is just something odd about it that I really enjoy and I can't tell you what it is about it either.

[Britton]

So are you guys excited about the new album (Duh!)

Do you think it will do as well as the last?

[Ninja Bass Man]

I saw the video for Hypnotize for the fourth or fifth time, and now I think that it is a pretty good song. If the rest of the albub is at least as good as that song, then I think that it will do pretty good. But I, as well as some other SOAD fans I know, don't beleive that Hypnotize will do as good as Mezmerize simply because lots of people who are old fans have adopted the "I only like their old stuff" stand on it. I'll go buy Hypnotize though.

[Kyle]

What I've heard of Hypnotize is pretty good. What do you guys think of the little fast solo bit in 'lonely day'......I've never heard Daron do that before, although never doubted that he could.

[DekWannaBFlea]

http://www.systemofadown.com/frameset-tickerlink.html?http://www.mtv.com

Listen to Hypnotize leaked on MTV.com.

[xxGumbyxx]

I just got Hypnotize yesterday. Honestly, I didn't like it on the first listen. But after a few listens, it's really starting to grow on me. The only part I don't like is the fact that a song could start out with a perfectly good intro and cheezy vocals almost ruin it e.g. "Kill Rock 'N' Roll" :upset: I suppose I'll get used to it though. My favorite song of theirs is still that old demo of "Blue." "Friik," is pretty cool too.

[Anthem]

What I've heard of Hypnotize is pretty good. What do you guys think of the little fast solo bit in 'lonely day'......I've never heard Daron do that before, although never doubted that he could.

:eek: <-------My face during Lonely Day. I knew Daron was the man!

[PepsiMetal]

Yea lonely day is amazing. It's probably my second or third favorite track after tentative, and some other song I can't remember name of atm.

[coneren]

Yea lonely day is amazing. It's probably my second or third favorite track after tentative, and some other song I can't remember name of atm.


Tentative is awesome,I though Soldier Side was awesome also.

[Prince of Darkness]

Hypnotize is my fav SOAD album. Is this gonna be their last?

[The_Riddler]

Hypnotize is my fav SOAD album. Is this gonna be their last?

I don't know much about what they have planned after the album, I also don't follow System of a Down much, but I doubt it's their last album. If it were, that would be horrible to think about, but again, it's highly doubtful.

[GenuineImitation]

Im not the biggest fan of the newer SOAD material. I heard hypnotize on the radio and was just wondering if the cd came out yet?

[Chris]

Im not the biggest fan of the newer SOAD material. I heard hypnotize on the radio and was just wondering if the cd came out yet?

Next monday in the UK and tuesday in the US. But it is already leaked, so people have heard it.

[Skit]

Album comes out worldwide on November 22nd although it leaked so everyone has it already :p

This isnt there final album, There doing another tour for about a year then starting on another album :thumb:

[Chris]

Album comes out worldwide on November 22nd although it leaked so everyone has it already :p

I dont, as i would rather wait for it, but it will be a worth while wait.

[JimbobTheSquirrel]

This isnt there final album
There were rumours it would be? :horror:
There doing another tour for about a year then starting on another album :thumb:
Sweet. They better play Ireland this time.

[Kyle]

I saw them on the mezmerise tour but I'm gona go and see them again definately!

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

So my friend and I downloaded it yesterday. It's got some great songs, but there is also a lot of crap. I'm addicted to "Vicinity of Obsenity." That song is probably their best.

[PepsiMetal]

What do you mean crap? Soad's songs on first listen usually all sound crap, but after a few listens they become great songs. That's how it is for me at least.

[+zero+]

i read somewhere in an interview where daron said something like " i feel rejected in the band since im like the main attention in the band now that i sing more. although what most people dont know is that ive always been writing a bit of lyrics here and there." so thats not good if they band members are negative toward him.. thats what breaks up bands!

[AIC/EAZY-E]

Lonely Day is awesome. It sounds cliched, but I tend to look past that and admire the fact Daron even did a song like it. I was just thinking how when I was listening to SOAD a few years ago, and thought they wouldn't even attempt a song in this vein, but they have definitely evolved into something great, and kind of unclassifiable. I do miss the occasional Serj growl though, one of those could've fit on Vicinity of Obscenity or Dreaming.

I reckon with their next release in the distant future, it will be a completely different SOAD. The wall of crunchy, nu-metallish (using the term loosely) guitars that was present on the first 3 releases is no longer there; Daron now uses a much cleaner tone and layers the songs perfectly. Thrash influences are much more evident. I don't know where they could possibly go after these two releases - but I'm sure it's something we'll least expect.

[TojesDolan]

I want to listen to the leaks... but it's not the same as listening to the full sexy album... I really, really need to listen to it. NOW!

But to avoid a fanboyist aspect here, I really have high-stakes on it. I really hope that they excel with Hypnotize... I don't mind Daron singing. But his songwritng was ugh...

[YDload]

Some old fans seem unwilling to accept that SOAD will always be changing and evolving from album to album. It's not the same as "selling out" because 1) there's no guarantee that what they do differently will result in more popular appeal, and 2) it's quite clearly more motivated by the desire to experiment than to get more money.

I quite enjoy bands that aren't willing to stick with the same sound for their entire career. I don't care how good their original sound is (like SOAD's for example), it's more interesting to see what they'll do next.

[TojesDolan]

Like... damn why do I have King Crimson stuck in my head? THey have evolved vastly from the early years... I guess. Pretty much a lot of Prog bands have, in my humble opinion.

or Sum41, for instance. They are doing what appeals them the most, and that makes them... alright, as they do what they want and not what sells... although their name is more related to pop punk than their little heavy metal thing going on.

[6stringslinger]

not that I want to listen:rolleyes: but is MTV the only "leak" site?It is a pain in the a** to get to work.

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

What do you mean crap? Soad's songs on first listen usually all sound crap, but after a few listens they become great songs. That's how it is for me at least.

Most SOAD songs are great from the first listen to me. Like Kill Rock 'n Roll is just terrible. I heard the live version before and did not like it. Did Serj write the lyrics on Vicinity of Obscenity?

Does anybody know if there is a place to download Hezze? I'm really, really interested in hearing that.

EDIT - I really love Daron's vocals on "She's Like Heroin." Also, who here also LOVES Soldier Side? That song is so amazing. I think its my favorite. All thought I don't like the 2 harmony singing in the last chorus. They just don't match. But everything else in that song is perfect. :thumb:

[Magicaltroll]

Hypnotize is pretty sweet.

[AIC/EAZY-E]

I've been waiting for Hypnotize to leak for a long time so I could experiment. If you make a CD with both albums on, you put Attack first, and proceed to put the 2nd track of Mesmerize with the 2nd track of Hyptonize after it, then the 3rd track of Mesmerize with the 3rd track of Hypnotize after it, etc etc, they all lead really well into one another. And then you finish it off with Soldier Side (intro) and Soldier Side. I've listened to the whole thing and it seems like a whole work, which is what it's intended to be in the first place.

The track list is like this :
Attack
BYOB
Dreaming
Revenga
Kill Rock 'N Roll
Cigaro
Hypnotize
Radio Video
Stealing Society
This Cocaine...
Tentative
Violent Pronography
U-Fig
Question!
Holy Mountains
Sad Statue
Vicinity of Obscenity
Old School Hollywood
She's Like Heroin
Lost in Hollywood
Lonely Day
Soldier Side (intro)
Soldier Side

I was bored. But I like it.

[YDload]

Interesting. And it all fits on one disk? Hmm, I'll have to see about that once I have Hypnotize on my computer along with Mezmerize. Should be an interesting combination.

[Skit]

i read somewhere in an interview where daron said something like " i feel rejected in the band since im like the main attention in the band now that i sing more. although what most people dont know is that ive always been writing a bit of lyrics here and there." so thats not good if they band members are negative toward him.. thats what breaks up bands!

Its not the band memebers being negative towards him, He feels he's got too much attention on him from the fans now that he started singing lead.

Serj said in an interview (possibly the same) that he was happy for Daron to finely be in the spotlight because after all the songs etc he writes for the band.

[Dave de Sylvia]

Holding the album in my hands :reallykewl:

[Spiritofmosa]

i love the bridge of dreaming and tentative..

i find hypnotize darker than mesmerize

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

Its not the band memebers being negative towards him, He feels he's got too much attention on him from the fans now that he started singing lead.

Serj said in an interview (possibly the same) that he was happy for Daron to finely be in the spotlight because after all the songs etc he writes for the band.

Serj will always be the frontman in my mind. Most of the time Daron doesn't sing on the new one. Most of the time he is just backing up Serj.:thumb:

[SabeR]

lots of times pplz who do the 'backup' work are the ones who do the most... :P
i gotta say, hypnotize is pretty cool... but their new one is even better :D

[The_Riddler]

Serj will always be the frontman in my mind. Most of the time Daron doesn't sing on the new one. Most of the time he is just backing up Serj.:thumb:

I really enjoy Darons singing though. In Lost in Hollywood he did great, that is probably my favorite song on Mesmerize.

Even though I can listen to the leaked album, I am just going to wait until it comes out. The last time I listened to a whole leaked album, it ruined pretty much the great part of buying and listening to the whole cd (that cd being Dark Light-HIM)

But oh well, not to much longer to wait.

[Stormrider]

I really enjoy Darons singing though. In Lost in Hollywood he did great, that is probably my favorite song on Mesmerize.

Even though I can listen to the leaked album, I am just going to wait until it comes out. The last time I listened to a whole leaked album, it ruined pretty much the great part of buying and listening to the whole cd (that cd being Dark Light-HIM)

But oh well, not to much longer to wait.

Daron singing these days does not anoy me but I rather when it was just a back up or when he did vocals for the wierd voices and stuff. Though Darons singing is okay.

And Same here, I dont mind maybe listeing to a song or 2 but a whole leaked album I wouldnt do that. It ruins the surprise.

[mutant!]

Daron singing these days does not anoy me but I rather when it was just a back up or when he did vocals for the wierd voices and stuff. Though Darons singing is okay.

And Same here, I dont mind maybe listeing to a song or 2 but a whole leaked album I wouldnt do that. It ruins the surprise.
Back in the day, SOAD recorded a few songs where someone besides Daron and Serj is growling, like a reeeeaally deep, bass growl. Is that Shavo singing?

[Skit]

It was Serj

[mutant!]

It was Serj
How sure are you? I'm referring to the growl as featured on *flicks through mp3 collection* dammit, can't find a song now. Oh well.

[Skit]

Trust me its Serj.
He had alot deeper growls in the old days :thumb:

[Kyle]

ye, it was serj. Those growls rule....

[OneMetricTonneOfGouda]

Yup, it was Serj

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

They were amazing. What happpened? Well, Soldier Side is my new favorite song by them. IT'S AMAZING!!! :Thumb: Now for me its:

1) Soldier Side
2) Thetawaves
3) Temper

[Stormrider]

ye, it was serj. Those growls rule....

Realy, I always thought it was Shavo. Anyways, they are awsome though...

[coneren]

They were amazing. What happpened? Well, Soldier Side is my new favorite song by them. IT'S AMAZING!!! :Thumb: Now for me its:

1) Soldier Side


The end to that song is awesome.It is one of my favorites now.

[+zero+]

im not going to listen to the leaked cd.. first cuz it will ruin it for when the cd comes out, and 2nd i cant listen to it anyway cuz my compute sucks :(.. also the growl serj does isnt that hard actually.. if you have a mic and a loud speaker its just like you breathe in.. its cool.. i do it to scare people. muhaha!

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

Most screams are mostly made using a microphone. Its alot easier than you might think. Suppositly, if you can scream without a mic, you are pushing to hard.

The end to that song is awesome. It is one of my favorites now.
Just the ending? The whole thing is ****ing amazing.

[Toaster]

Most screams are mostly made using a microphone. Its alot easier than you might think. Suppositly, if you can scream without a mic, you are pushing to hard.


Just the ending? The whole thing is ****ing amazing.

If you can't do it without a mic, you're not screaming, you're whispering.

[BrownSugar]

One word: War?

[AIC/EAZY-E]

Pungent. It smells like the inside of a fake leg.

[Spiritofmosa]

If you can't do it without a mic, you're not screaming, you're whispering.
oh so thats how you do it?

[mutant!]

OK, just to make sure... So on Prison Song it's just Serj singing the chorus?

[Skit]

Serj And Daron :thumb:

And "growling" by breathing into the mic isnt growling it all its just overdriving the mic so the soundwaves get too high an pop.
Theres an art to actually screaming ;)

[BassRevelation1029]

has anyone else tried listening to it on mtv's site? Doesnt even load for me

[The_Riddler]

has anyone else tried listening to it on mtv's site? Doesnt even load for me

I tried, but then quickly decided not to listen to it. It loaded fine for me though. I just want to keep the album a surprise for myself and not ruin anything about it.

[Prince of Darkness]

I heard rumours a while back that SOAD are gonna stop making music because of the US and Bush.

True?

[BassRevelation1029]

I tried, but then quickly decided not to listen to it. It loaded fine for me though. I just want to keep the album a surprise for myself and not ruin anything about it.
heh, i would do the same, but i ended up giving away the mesmerize album because it was a huge disappointment. Things look like they might be better, after hearing their first single.

[YDload]

I heard rumours a while back that SOAD are gonna stop making music because of the US and Bush.

True?

Yes you can read all about it here http://www.gullible.com

[Prince of Darkness]

Yes you can read all about it here http://www.gullible.com

yarr yarr yarr

[mutant!]

yarr yarr yarr
I like your new avatar, man.

[6stringslinger]

yeah that MTV link sucks elephant nuts






then again so does MTV

[punkasskid]

i love this band and i cantwait 4 a new album (if they make one):)

[Dave de Sylvia]

My Hypnotize review (http://www.sputnikmusic.com/album.php?reviewid=4350&genreid=7)

I guess I should pimp this in here, to get some criticism from the hardcores :cool:

[PepsiMetal]

That's pretty good and nice rating as well. You should have indicated a nice solo in lonely day though. A very good song instrumentally.

[Kyle]

great review, I'm gona go back and listen to the album again now.

[Prince of Darkness]

great review. I like all the songs on the album, but Lonely Day and Soldier Side being the worst. Although I like them aswell.

[Spiritofmosa]

honestly, the only reason why i would want to buy this album more than other bands' is because of how mainstream they are.

[Skit]

Nice review :thumb:


Still waiting for my preorder!
:upset:

[Space Dementia]

honestly, the only reason why i would want to buy this album more than other bands' is because of how mainstream they are.
WTF are you on about?

Nice review :thumb:


Still waiting for my preorder!
:upset:
That's gotta suck seeing that you can go out and buy it tommorow =P.

[G.P.]

if by bassy growls you meant the one is sugar (WHO can believe you),that is done by shavo.

[Skit]

Shavo has never sang on a record I dont understand where that rumor came from..

Shavo sometimes sings live but not often

[JimbobTheSquirrel]

Nice review :thumb:


Still waiting for my preorder!
:upset:
Yeah, so am I. There was a good review in the Observer Music Magazine though :)
Edit: and Spat, that was a really well written review.

[Dave de Sylvia]

What's special about the pre-order?

Thanks for the compliments :)

[Six Foot Revolver]

What's special about the pre-order?

Thanks for the compliments :)
You get some free artwork with it I think.

[Kyle]

Listening to the self titled, I havn't listened to it in so long...definately my favorite.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Great review, SOP. I've still not heard the album though. :p

[Brooxy]

I like it. It's a bit different to even "Mezmerize," and the instant playability isn't all that high, but after listening to it a few times, it's grown on me a lot. Probably joint second favorite album :thumb:

[xrockerachickx]

which one? hypnotize?
so ur saying it's a good album then right...
it better be. or i will shoot myself

[YDload]

No just shoot yourself in the hand so you can't type anymore. Your spelling is really awful and your posts indicate that you're one of the millions of SOAD fans who think they should sound like the S/T album all the time and never progress at all.

[Unnamed_One]

Hmm I think the band would be decent if they didn't burst into random and "off-key" sounding vocals and guitars after a decent sounding riff (buried in there every once in a while).

[PepsiMetal]

That's pretty much what soad has been since they started. Most soad's songs speed up and slow down all of a sudden. They don't have many songs where it's same tempo and style throughout the whole song. I like hypnotize, tentative is a great song. And Attack is also great. It's different than mesmerize, but both albums are great. Mesmerize is kinda slower and lighter, and hypnotize is alot heavier, faster, and resembles older soad more. But every soad album is different, so really, they probably will never make 2 similar albums.

[Moondog]

System of a Down seem to be losing their creative edge. Their first album was a bizarre hybrid of Mr. Bungle and sharp metal. It was extremely good too. Toxicity was a bit more refined but a more focused album and was also extremely good. Steal This Album! was like a mixture of the first two albums, which is understandable considering they were left from the Toxicity sessions, great songs here but less of an "epic" listen than Toxicity. Now I don't know what happened to Mezmerize. I mean honestly, listen to the first three and then to Mezmerize. Mezmerize is a watered down Toxicity. Now I know that this album follows somewhat of a concept as how important the media effects the population and how controlling it all is. Does this mean System should have dumbed down their songwriting lyrically and melodically to also captivate this population? Artistically no. And what's worse is this new Hypnotize song is ineffective and watered down as well. What happened to the fresh and intellectual System of a Down who didn't constantly repeat the same message and lose their creative flair? Yeah they're Lost in Hollywood. :rolleyes:

[Kyle]

I too am not a great fan of the lyrics themselves, but it's not really an issue with the theme more with Daron's writing style. To be honest I completely disagree with you moondog, if anything I would say Soad are becoming more creative. Some of the guitar parts are completely new for soad and perhaps show their Armenian influences, I also think they have explored vocal harmonies alot more especially on mesmerize.

[Skit]

"System of a Down who didn't constantly repeat the same message"

Look in any lyric booklet by SOAD and you'll see most of there songs are repeated over and over.

"Lose their creative flair"

Thats your opinion, I think most of the new guitar parts especially on th Hypnotize album are some of the greatest the band has written

"Mezmerize is a watered down Toxicity"

Once again, thats your opinion.
SOAD have said numerous times they dont want to write another toxicity they want to keep moving forward and changing there music.

Maybe fans like you should to?

[Moondog]

The guitar parts may be new for SoaD but they're not as creative as they used to be in my opinion. Most of their songs now use the same chord structures, tones and keys. Use of acoustic and foreign instruments aren't a big deal unless your composing gets better. The vocal harmonies don't bring anything good to the music as far as I'm concerned. First off, they're barely harmonies rather than Daron singing along. I love Serj's voice and I think it's even recently been used badly. Daron's parts seem to bring in an abrasive amateurish type of tone to the lyrics and song altogether. The only good creative step up in the band that I can notice is Dolmayan's drumming. Especially on Revenga and Question!.

[Moondog]

Skit as far as the messages I definitely don't see that in the first album. And I don't see it anywhere near as much as I do on Mezmerize.

And of course what I said was my opinion. Anything I say should be automatically stamped as an opinion of mine. I'm not trying to set an end-all opinion on the band for everyone.

[Kyle]

The guitar parts may be new for SoaD but they're not as creative as they used to be in my opinion. Most of their songs now use the same chord structures, tones and keys. Use of acoustic and foreign instruments aren't a big deal unless your composing gets better. The vocal harmonies don't bring anything good to the music as far as I'm concerned. First off, they're barely harmonies rather than Daron singing along. I love Serj's voice and I think it's even recently been used badly.that's fair enough, I'm not a huge mesmerize fan either to be honest. But I just wouldn't say they lack creativity. They are constantly doing things that they have never done before and are slowly but surely moving away from constant use of drop-tuned powerchords. I also love serj's voice and would prefer it if he sang most of the time, but the vocal harmonies on Lost in Hollywood are orgasmic. I think if a band lacks creativity they are stuck in a position like Oasis or The Strokes where sound doesn't really change from album to album. Soad on the other hand can't be guilty of that, no album sounds like the one they did before and I can only see their sound continuing to change.

[mutant!]

that's fair enough, I'm not a huge mesmerize fan either to be honest. But I just wouldn't say they lack creativity. They are constantly doing things that they have never done before and are slowly but surely moving away from constant use of drop-tuned powerchords.
The biggest thing obviously being that they've stepped up the guitars to drop C# instead of drop C. The day System plays every song on an album in standard tuning is the day I will lie down on the floor and proceed with my Tantric perpetual orgasm.

I also love serj's voice and would prefer it if he sang most of the time, but the vocal harmonies on Lost in Hollywood are orgasmic.
I enjoy both voices equally. Daron has a very pop-punk voice which is better than anything a sarcastic socio-political metal band could hope for; especially since it's System, who never take themselves too seriously and enjoy poking fun at pop culture. It is one of the most ironic things that I have ever witnessed in music. And yes, the harmonies on Lost In Hollywood are amazing; ditto for BYOB, even though it's just diatonic thirds all the way.
I think if a band lacks creativity they are stuck in a position like Oasis
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[big80smullet]

I just got hypnotise and i have to say its better than mesmerise. maybe thats because its fresher but i like it better.

[Skit]

I just saw Hypnotize in HMV... It was laughing at me because I havent got my preorder yet :upset:

[Six Foot Revolver]

I just saw Hypnotize in HMV... It was laughing at me because I havent got my preorder yet :upset:
When were you meant to receive it?

[Kyle]

I just saw Hypnotize in HMV... It was laughing at me because I havent got my preorder yet :upset:
haha, that's why I never pre order. Everytime I pre-order something it lets me down.

[xrockerachickx]

Album Tomorow!

[Skit]

Album Tomorow!

Today actually, your countrys a noob :thumb:

... :lol:

[pasulpepe]

OMG JOHN DOLMAYAN WHAT A BLOODY DRUMMMER !!! LIKE HES SOOOO GOOD!!!THAT ALSO WITH NO DOUBLE BASS:p

I dont think he has always had a double bass. I dont believe he had one until toxicity.

[pasulpepe]

The biggest thing obviously being that they've stepped up the guitars to drop C# instead of drop C. The day System plays every song on an album in standard tuning is the day I will lie down on the floor and proceed with my Tantric perpetual orgasm.


I enjoy both voices equally. Daron has a very pop-punk voice which is better than anything a sarcastic socio-political metal band could hope for; especially since it's System, who never take themselves too seriously and enjoy poking fun at pop culture. It is one of the most ironic things that I have ever witnessed in music. And yes, the harmonies on Lost In Hollywood are amazing; ditto for BYOB, even though it's just diatonic thirds all the way.

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I really think serj has one of the best modern vocals of any band out there. Daron's voice is too whiney and annoying.

[mutant!]

Today actually, your countrys a noob :thumb:

... :lol:
Haha, continent pwnt.

[+zero+]

I dont think he has always had a double bass. I dont believe he had one until toxicity.
i think your wrong.. actually i know your wrong. hes always been using it. but yea sam goody called me today and told me my cds in but i dont think im getting free art with it am i?

i refused to listen more then 15 seconds of all the intros except for hypnotize,kill rock n roll, holy mountains and i listened to shes like heroin cuz its the shortest song on the cd.. i love that song!

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

The biggest thing obviously being that they've stepped up the guitars to drop C# instead of drop C. The day System plays every song on an album in standard tuning is the day I will lie down on the floor and proceed with my Tantric perpetual orgasm.
In a Guitar World, Daron said that the next album, will most likely be in normal tuning.:thumb:

[keaton_86]

I dont think he has always had a double bass. I dont believe he had one until toxicity.

He used to use one bass drum, with an Iron Cobra double kick pedal, but he rarely used it.

[Kyle]

In a Guitar World, Daron said that the next album, will most likely be in normal tuning.:thumb:
If that's true it's going to sound wierd...

[Chris]

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Banana banana banana banana terrecotta banana terrecott terrecotta pie!
Banana banana banana banana terrecotta banana terrecott terrecotta pie!
Banana banana banana banana terrecotta banana terrecott terrecotta pie!

I love that song, it is quite funny.

[Corkofski]

^^hell yeah...

SOAD in normal tuning, while convenient, just wont be the same

[mutant!]

Daron's voice is too whiney and annoying.
That's my point. It's whiny, annoying, really gets under your skin, and sounds like Tom DeLonge on Blink's first CD. That's why it's funny. System absolutely lives for taking the piss out of establishment - especially pop culture - so his pop-punk-like voice comes in handy when they want to be sarcastic about mass media or commercialisation or whatever.

In a Guitar World, Daron said that the next album, will most likely be in normal tuning.:thumb:
/orgasm

IMO: drop-tuning is pretentious and a cheap way to sound metal-y. True musicianship is shown when you can:

1) sound heavy without distortion;
2) play metal in standard tuning; and
3) adapt to the instrument instead of adapting the instrument to yourself.

/prepares +5 shield of flame resistance

[Corkofski]

hmm, but it also allows the instruments to go deeper than they could before, which adds to systems darker tone

try playing a system song drop tuned, then normally and you will see what i mean

[mutant!]

hmm, but it also allows the instruments to go deeper than they could before, which adds to systems darker tone

try playing a system song drop tuned, then normally and you will see what i mean
Not just SOAD. Every metal band of the past 20 years. It's wayyy overused. I have more respect for a band that plays in D standard than drop C - the dropped E string is for lazy people who can't play power chords fast. What I mean is that (1) if you want low range, get a baritone or a bass (2) YOU DON'T NEED TO PLAY LOW TO SOUND EVIL. Chords can be dark without being low. It has far more to do with chord structure and composition than tone height. This whole drop-tuning fad is making dark-sounding music extremely easy to achieve, and thus the market is flooded with bands who can't play for sh*t but have discovered how to play a power chord with one finger.

And btw, I have played SOAD stuff in normal tuning, like Question! for example. It sounds fiiiiiiine. :thumb:

[blackest_incarnation]

Not just SOAD. Every metal band of the past 20 years. It's wayyy overused. I have more respect for a band that plays in D standard than drop C - the dropped E string is for lazy people who can't play power chords fast. What I mean is that (1) if you want low range, get a baritone or a bass (2) YOU DON'T NEED TO PLAY LOW TO SOUND EVIL. Chords can be dark without being low. It has far more to do with chord structure and composition than tone height. This whole drop-tuning fad is making dark-sounding music extremely easy to achieve, and thus the market is flooded with bands who can't play for sh*t but have discovered how to play a power chord with one finger.

And btw, I have played SOAD stuff in normal tuning, like Question! for example. It sounds fiiiiiiine. :thumb:

The kind of tuning a guitarist uses doesnt determine how good he is. Drop tunings dont have to be used soley by lazy guitarists. Certain riffs can be played with far more convienience with the dropped E string as opposed to an E string in standard.

[Dave de Sylvia]

Not just SOAD. Every metal band of the past 20 years. It's wayyy overused. I have more respect for a band that plays in D standard than drop C - the dropped E string is for lazy people who can't play power chords fast. What I mean is that (1) if you want low range, get a baritone or a bass (2) YOU DON'T NEED TO PLAY LOW TO SOUND EVIL. Chords can be dark without being low.
Right, but D standard doesn't have a low C...

[blackest_incarnation]

Right, but D standard doesn't have a low C...

D standard with a dropped E string would be drop C.

[Dave de Sylvia]

D standard with a dropped E string would be drop C.
That's my point.