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cramboli
05-20-2005, 07:23 PM
Now, i don't play bass but i can still play all of shavos basslines on my friends bass...so he must not be very good..sorry to burst your bubble
It doesn't matter if the bass is easy or not because it remains soely on if the musics good or not and by my judgment it is because everybody has there own judgment on things so if you don't like it then don't post in here unless you do like it or have a question just don't come in these kinds of post to be like i hate them because then you are just being an *** and by being an *** its not cool pplus proving that the band your dissing doesn't suck but you do on the other hand so shut up and stop waisting the time of Fans!!!

PepsiMetal
05-21-2005, 03:45 AM
But does system of a down like metallica??
I would hope not....

Why would you hope not?

Most bands like metallica.

Oh and I still dont see why one would go through a band's thread, and post they hate them. It's not like we can discuss his hatred towards a band. He says I hate a band, what can we reply? "Ok?" lol

If every thread about a certain band was dedicated to *** kissing the said band then all threads would be awful.

Posting news about a band and discussing a band isn't and shouldn't be ever considered *** kissing. That would mean we can't even discuss a band at all. I guess the way I see it is, you go to the band's thread, and find info about them, where they'll perform, latest news, etc. I dont see how "I hate them" could make for a good discussion either. I dislike many bands, but I dont think people would want me to post in their threads that I dislike a band. Not many people will really care if a person hates a band. Especially not in their threads.

/back to soad

So who is danny and lisa. The radio people or daron's childhood friends? :confused:

Six Foot Revolver
05-21-2005, 04:09 AM
But does system of a down like metallica??
I would hope not....
I think they do but I am not sure on that. However, I do know that Muse (http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=326815) and System of a Down are really good friends

Skit
05-21-2005, 04:14 AM
Darons played with Metallica live several times, so my guess is he likes Metallica :thumb:

So who is danny and lisa. The radio people or daron's childhood friends? :confused:

They're definatly Darons childhood friends he said it in an interview in Rolling Stone.

fishboy
05-21-2005, 06:47 AM
john likes alot of radiohead
darons says the likes bands with there own sound so hes into U2 and faith no more

who know about mettalica , hope not

+zero+
05-21-2005, 08:46 AM
yea i read somewhere that john has a good taste of music. IMO good music at least. he quoted saying that he liked muse and the mars volta and a couple other bands and said thats what he would imagined radiohead sounding like if they kept making cds. ive liked the mars volta since ATDI broke up and i love muse and have all their cds except for Hullabaloo which i cant get a hold of since its an import. but im guessing soad like metallica.. i mean honestly listen to them and tell me they dont sound at all like them..u can for some of their songs , other songs u can tho.

p.s. everyones spelling their new cd meSmerize isnt it meZerize?

cramboli
05-21-2005, 12:51 PM
yes, yes it is, and onto other news they have been more into evrything than nothing. for those of you who don't understand that and listen to System then stop...

Blizzink
05-21-2005, 01:17 PM
yea i read somewhere that john has a good taste of music. IMO good music at least. he quoted saying that he liked muse and the mars volta and a couple other bands and said thats what he would imagined radiohead sounding like if they kept making cds. ive liked the mars volta since ATDI broke up and i love muse and have all their cds except for Hullabaloo which i cant get a hold of since its an import. but im guessing soad like metallica.. i mean honestly listen to them and tell me they dont sound at all like them..u can for some of their songs , other songs u can tho.

p.s. everyones spelling their new cd meSmerize isnt it meZerize?

You're right about the spelling (sans your personal error), but the rest of your post is incomprehensible, Luke.

(Lennon/McCartney)
05-21-2005, 01:33 PM
soad are my favorite metal band! their self title was the best in my opinion every single song was loud and obnoctious! toxicity was pretty good but i thought steal this album sucked to me it didnt sound anything like them. darron is awesome at guitar but i think he should let serj do the lyrics and songwriting (byob had terrible lyrics and the singing sucked). Shavo sux i can barely ever hear him the only song that i could actually tell what he was playing was in sugar(best song ever) but the rif just goes 0-7-6-5 anybody could do that but overall theyre my 2nd fav band...
I rilly disagree there are a lot of hard system of a down songs to play and daron is a lousy writer with words like "pizza pie pizza pie ...and butters gettig hard" but he writes almost all of it so you have to give him credet for the very good songs as well and i also hated darons singing i thout he suck *** to but on the new album he sings about more then half and his vocals are fantastic i feel bad for shovo and serj they were kind of left out a little and for the record byob is a horrible song...untill the choris comes in.System of a down is one of my favoret bands and im not rilly that into heavy stuff but there words and melidies keep me listening keep on rocking.

Endless Obsession
05-21-2005, 02:01 PM
You guys are dumb. The lyrics mean something they arent just nonsence. For example the "My **** is much bigger than yours!" is talking about different countries armies. If you werent ignorant you could understand that their lyrics are intelligent. And its all part of SOAD to have goofy sounding lyrics.

sexycakes
05-21-2005, 03:35 PM
God, this page is like a retard convention.
Half the people posting have no idea what punctuation is and are idiot fan boys.

on topic:

I really like sytem of a down, they have ways of getting across a song meaning without being so direct. Like said example, cigaro. Sounds stupid but has a deeper meaning within it. The music is usually fantastic. They hop around with all sorts of tempo changes and different time signatures.

Anyone catch the interview with Dan in the new guitar world?
Any fan should read it, it covers a few questions here.

Skit
05-22-2005, 10:50 AM
SOAD lyrics have great meanings, you've just got to hunt them out sometimes :thumb:

Jon
05-22-2005, 11:33 AM
Hey guys,
What do you think the 10 best SOAD songs are?

KRASH
05-22-2005, 11:35 AM
This is basically a thread inside a thread some people made me go here :angry:

so anyway what are the 10 greatest SOAD songs in your opinion

please number them 1- 10

and respect other peoples views and no flaming or you will be reported!

thank you

Jon
05-22-2005, 11:35 AM
I beat you by a whole 2 minutes buddy.

KRASH
05-22-2005, 11:39 AM
I beat you by a whole 2 minutes buddy.


no way...go look at my thread on it that they are about to close...lol

mine is the official 1

:lol:


:p

Mojo2004
05-22-2005, 11:43 AM
no way...go look at my thread on it that they are about to close...lol

mine is the official 1

:lol:


:p
nobody cares jackass

KRASH
05-22-2005, 11:52 AM
nobody cares jackass


haha

thats funny cause i do...and so does jon or we wouldnt hav posted..and just wait

Mojo2004
05-22-2005, 12:00 PM
haha

thats funny cause i do...and so does jon or we wouldnt hav posted..and just wait
Learn to spell.

Anyway, does anyone know what film SOAD covered "Metro" for?

Also, is it true that Mezmerize and Hyponotise are meant to be "Male" and "Female." I've heard rumours but not found anything personally.

Blizzink
05-22-2005, 12:11 PM
Learn to spell.

Anyway, does anyone know what film SOAD covered "Metro" for?

Also, is it true that Mezmerize and Hyponotise are meant to be "Male" and "Female." I've heard rumours but not found anything personally.

Wasn't it Not Another Teen Movie? I think they play a bit of it during the football scene.

Mojo2004
05-22-2005, 12:14 PM
maybe, not seen that movie in ages...

Mambuto_O'Mally
05-22-2005, 12:21 PM
If I'm not mistaken, I think it was for Dracula 2000.

Also, one thing I think they could have done is have less guitar on "Old School Hollywood." The keyboards are awesome on that song.

Mambuto_O'Mally
05-22-2005, 12:23 PM
Also, is it true that Mezmerize and Hyponotise are meant to be "Male" and "Female." I've heard rumours but not found anything personally.
:confused:
If it is I prey that the Mezmerize is the "Female."

Blizzink
05-22-2005, 12:25 PM
Well, I'd associate the word "Hypnotize" more with the female gender.

cramboli
05-22-2005, 01:41 PM
did anyone find it kind of groovey/odd that the booklet was made out with soy ink, 10% tree-free fibers hemp and flax and 90% of recycled other stuff. for any other real fans...
and without the guitar or most of it in old school hollywood it would seem empty.

Mambuto_O'Mally
05-22-2005, 01:44 PM
^^^
What do you mean?

When I read that I thought of Homer saying "Mmm...Soy ink," and then liking the words right off the page. LOL

Mojo2004
05-22-2005, 02:06 PM
did anyone find it kind of groovey/odd that the booklet was made out with soy ink, 10% tree-free fibers hemp and flax and 90% of recycled other stuff. for any other real fans...
and without the guitar or most of it in old school hollywood it would seem empty.
i thought it was pretty good, nice to know bands are getting with the whole enviromental thing

Endless Obsession
05-22-2005, 02:12 PM
did anyone find it kind of groovey/odd that the booklet was made out with soy ink, 10% tree-free fibers hemp and flax and 90% of recycled other stuff. for any other real fans...

Yeah the co-guitarist in my band was talking about that. Thats good though that they are saving the trees. SOAD is a band that would do that too. I could also see Audioslave doing that.

As for 10 Favorite Songs

10. Radio/Video - Mezmerize
9. Suggestions - S/T
8. I-E-A-I-A-I-O - Steal this Album!
7. ATWA - Toxicity
6. BYOB - Mezmerize
5. Toxicity - Toxicity
4. Boom! - Steal this Album!
3. Sugar - S/T
2. Deer Dance - Toxicity
1. Chop Suey - Toxicity

Also, is it true that Mezmerize and Hyponotise are meant to be "Male" and "Female." I've heard rumours but not found anything personally.

I haven't heard that. I have heard that Mezmerize is supposed to be more clean stuff and not as much "metal" if that can be used, and hypnotize is supposed to be a lot more distortion and more Serj screaming etc.

TheSubtleArts
05-22-2005, 04:17 PM
Yeah the co-guitarist in my band was talking about that. Thats good though that they are saving the trees. SOAD is a band that would do that too. I could also see Audioslave doing that.

As for 10 Favorite Songs

10. Radio/Video - Mezmerize
9. Suggestions - S/T
8. I-E-A-I-A-I-O - Steal this Album!
7. ATWA - Toxicity
6. BYOB - Mezmerize
5. Toxicity - Toxicity
4. Boom! - Steal this Album!
3. Sugar - S/T
2. Deer Dance - Toxicity
1. Chop Suey - Toxicity



I haven't heard that. I have heard that Mezmerize is supposed to be more clean stuff and not as much "metal" if that can be used, and hypnotize is supposed to be a lot more distortion and more Serj screaming etc.

I hope you are right. although i love Mezmerize, i would like to see more heavy stuff, and i miss that Serj growl as in previous albums.

and to whoever was talking about Metro, it was for the Dragula 2000 movie.

Dr. Jake Destructo
05-22-2005, 05:07 PM
What do you guys think of Question?

It's my favorite song by far off of Mezmerize. I really like the intro.

Is it just me, or does Cocaine sound like it belongs on the Self Titled album? :p It has that same raw feel that all the songs on the S/T have. It's an awesome track.

TheSubtleArts
05-22-2005, 05:19 PM
What do you guys think of Question?

It's my favorite song by far off of Mezmerize. I really like the intro.

Is it just me, or does Cocaine sound like it belongs on the Self Titled album? :p It has that same raw feel that all the songs on the S/T have. It's an awesome track.

i love "Question!" also, and yea "This Cocaine..." sounds the most like old SOAD to me, one of my favorites off the album.

PepsiMetal
05-22-2005, 05:44 PM
1. Chop Suey - Toxicity

Yup, that's my fav. soad song so far. Chop Suey still kicks ***.

Question is cool. Sweet berries. lol.

I like soad's lyrics. They're always weird, fun, energetic, and such.

azbassman
05-22-2005, 05:44 PM
I just got off my resent banning so...you know...i really havent heard anything about the male, female thing i just hope hypnotize is a good as mezmerize...and yeah "Question!" rules and "This Cocanine..." does sound like some of the songs off of the S/T but...i dont know about you guys but my favorite song off of mezmerize would have to be "Sad Statue"...im going on and on sry hade to make up for the banning

PepsiMetal
05-22-2005, 06:02 PM
Yea, best songs off of mezmerize would have to be radio/video, sad statue, or lost in hollywood. Did anyone hear those 2 songs off hypnotize, kill rock n roll and holy mountain? If so, did those songs seem to be heavier than stuff on mezmerize or same?

Rothmans
05-22-2005, 06:14 PM
Yea, best songs off of mezmerize would have to be radio/video, sad statue, or lost in hollywood. Did anyone hear those 2 songs off hypnotize, kill rock n roll and holy mountain? If so, did those songs seem to be heavier than stuff on mezmerize or same?


I have high expectations for hypnotize from them and the let down of mezermize yeah some songs were good but they were trying to hard to be wacky at bits it annoyed me and kill rock n roll and holy mountain were really really good so im thinking it might be heavier.

TheSubtleArts
05-22-2005, 06:52 PM
Yea, best songs off of mezmerize would have to be radio/video, sad statue, or lost in hollywood. Did anyone hear those 2 songs off hypnotize, kill rock n roll and holy mountain? If so, did those songs seem to be heavier than stuff on mezmerize or same?

kill rock and roll sounded heavy to me, i only heard the live version from BDO though. Holy Mountain sounds like Arials to me, its not that heavy but its a great song. In an interview i read today, Serj said one of the songs(Vacinity i think) has a really good guitar solo that he says is Darons best guitar work ever. sounds like a good album.

Mambuto_O'Mally
05-22-2005, 10:08 PM
My top 10 SOAD songs:
10.ATWA (Toxicity)
9.Violent Pornography (Mezmerize)
8.Soil (s/t)
7.Prison Song (Toxicity)
6.Suite-Pee (s/t)
5.Revenga (Mezmerize)
4.Needles (Toxicity)
3.Lost In Hollywood (Mezmerize)
2.Thetawaves (STA)
1.Peephole (s/t)

Mambuto_O'Mally
05-22-2005, 10:09 PM
kill rock and roll sounded heavy to me, i only heard the live version from BDO though. Holy Mountain sounds like Arials to me, its not that heavy but its a great song. In an interview i read today, Serj said one of the songs(Vacinity i think) has a really good guitar solo that he says is Darons best guitar work ever. sounds like a good album.

Where did you find this? Can I have a link? (If it was found on the internet)

Skit
05-23-2005, 02:30 AM
I've heard Kill Rock n Roll and Holy Mountain and they both sound really good, I cant wait for a studio version to be released :thumb:

Child of the Grave
05-23-2005, 03:18 AM
i still rekon soad are the best band, right, but imagine how ****in awesome theyd be if they didnt look or sound silly sometimes!

AIC/EAZY-E
05-23-2005, 06:20 AM
That's the dumbest thing I've heard all day.

Timidus
05-23-2005, 10:35 AM
i still rekon soad are the best band, right, but imagine how ****in awesome theyd be if they didnt look or sound silly sometimes!


Uhmm them looking and sounding silly is what probably got your attention in the first place :wave:

podbassist
05-23-2005, 10:47 AM
I remember when i first got toxicity, that;s all i listened to, i wore out the cd after listening to it every day for like 2 months.

Mambuto_O'Mally
05-23-2005, 11:05 AM
me too and I thought SOAD were the best band ever.

/shakes his head at such a sad thought

Six Foot Revolver
05-23-2005, 05:40 PM
i still rekon soad are the best band, right, but imagine how ****in awesome theyd be if they didnt look or sound silly sometimes!
To me I think that there weirdness is a major part of there charm and is why they are so good

cramboli
05-23-2005, 05:52 PM
Off of the new Cd i'd have to go with Violent Pornogrophy.... and right now i couldn't tell you why because I don't remember...

Blongdoggle65
05-23-2005, 06:11 PM
Their new album isn't as good as the rest, they've went from pwning, to just owning.

Dr Doom
05-23-2005, 08:15 PM
Their new single is horrible IMO.

picksta
05-24-2005, 01:19 AM
I reckon the new SOAD album rocks and at the moment im really gettin into the songs Cigaro and B.Y.O.B

PepsiMetal
05-24-2005, 01:39 AM
When cigaro came out I was like damm that's good, but when the album was released, cigaro is like one of the worst songs on that album.

AIC/EAZY-E
05-24-2005, 03:26 AM
NO, there is FOUR threads about SOAD on the first page! Someone needs to cut down on them and just keep to this one! I like them and all, but geez, overexposure for the new album. Everyone I know thinks they're hardC0RE because they know all the songs off of Toxicity, but NONE of them even know the song Suite-Pee! I hope no one I know owns Mesmerize, I only want to keep Violent Pornography in my circle of friends and not let it be ruined like the genuis of BYOB has by fangirls and boys at my school. They seriously take all the fun out of listening to SOAD.

martyr of metal
05-24-2005, 05:50 AM
HEY
im a newbie here and i LOVE system im a big fan of them and have all their CDs,i can even play most of their songs on guitar




BTW,on their new album there are some pretty good tunes but i think radio/video,question,and sad statue are the best


but dont get me mixed up

the only song i really dont like is old school hollywood

DuncMaster
05-24-2005, 06:09 AM
HEY
im a newbie here and i LOVE system im a big fan of them and have all their CDs,i can even play most of their songs on guitar




BTW,on their new album there are some pretty good tunes but i think radio/video,question,and sad statue are the best


but dont get me mixed up

the only song i really dont like is old school hollywood

I love Old School Hollywood.

top 3; BYOB
Sad Statue
Old School Hollywood. :thumb:

martyr of metal
05-24-2005, 06:19 AM
i just dont like the tech sound of it

AIC/EAZY-E
05-24-2005, 06:27 AM
Actually it's only the voice and the guitar effects, but they seriously make the song what it is. It's awesome and outshines Lost In Hollywood IMO. Does anyone think those two are placed together solely for the fact they both have Hollywood in their titles? It would be good if they were joined together, kind of like Underground In America/Sandblasted Skin by Pantera.

martyr of metal
05-24-2005, 06:30 AM
i dont think they would sound good together


and yes they were probably put together cause' a titles

Renaissance
05-24-2005, 06:30 AM
SOAD is by far my favourite band. Excellent thread, don't know how I didn't notice it earlier.

martyr of metal
05-24-2005, 06:31 AM
another SOAD luva :thumb:

AIC/EAZY-E
05-24-2005, 06:35 AM
They're rare in these here parts.

Thor
05-24-2005, 07:00 AM
SOAD is my older brother's favorite band, and he has been listening to Mezmerize nonstop since it came out. Save me!

It's not that bad, I actually really like most of the tracks on that album.

Skit
05-24-2005, 12:12 PM
Mezmerize is number 2 in the UK albums chart!

Awesome Eh? :thumb:

Hui_LP
05-24-2005, 12:16 PM
That rocks, cause that máy mean there will maybe be some good music on the telly.

Endless Obsession
05-24-2005, 01:13 PM
top 3; BYOB
Sad Statue
Old School Hollywood. :thumb:

Top 3:

BYOB
Radio/Video
Violent Pornography

slaughteredfirst
05-24-2005, 01:21 PM
I just got the new cd so far my top 3 are

BYOB
Radio/Video
Old School Hollywood

TheFunDrummer
05-24-2005, 01:22 PM
My top 3:
Soldierside/BYOB- Great intro/song
Sad Statue
Radio/Video

The album is great!

madlyinangerwithu
05-24-2005, 01:47 PM
I hypnotise is as good as this cd!

these are the best songs:
revenga
byob
Violent pornography

Neoteric
05-24-2005, 01:56 PM
I like B.Y.O.B. until my friend started singing it ewww

Six Foot Revolver
05-24-2005, 02:39 PM
I still don't have it! :angry:

Endless Obsession
05-24-2005, 02:40 PM
I still don't have it! :angry:

If you dont feel like buying it my AIM is Rustinpuppets.

Six Foot Revolver
05-24-2005, 02:41 PM
No thanks, I definately plan on buying it but I haven't had the chance to do so yet.

PepsiMetal
05-24-2005, 02:46 PM
Mezmerize is number 2 in the UK albums chart!

Awesome Eh? :thumb:

That's good I guess, although I dont care much about charts.

WishYouWereHere
05-24-2005, 03:00 PM
Mezmerize fuggin rules!!! SOAD is one of my very favorite bands... They rule :thumb:

Handle with care
05-24-2005, 03:03 PM
S.O.A.D Kicks ***, but I think Daron is slowly taking over the band.

PepsiMetal
05-24-2005, 03:10 PM
He is, although when you think about it, he has the most talent in the band.

Handle with care
05-24-2005, 03:23 PM
Dont you think that serj looks a bit like Wierd Al?

Endless Obsession
05-24-2005, 03:31 PM
He is, although when you think about it, he has the most talent in the band.

By far.

clock man
05-24-2005, 03:33 PM
Shavo is an ammazing bassist, he does insane solos. IN the band SNOT that is.

Thor
05-24-2005, 03:42 PM
S.O.A.D Kicks ***, but I think Daron is slowly taking over the band.
I'll second that. He tries to do too much.

Handle with care
05-24-2005, 03:43 PM
The drums are a lot more in tune with the guitar in mesmerise eg in BYOB and Revenga. But my favourite drum licks are in Toxicity.

KRASH
05-24-2005, 03:59 PM
i cant ****ING believe i still havent got this album im taking a rip at myself....my mum better pay me so i can go get that GOD **** album!!!!!!!

PepsiMetal
05-24-2005, 10:33 PM
The drums are a lot more in tune with the guitar in mesmerise eg in BYOB and Revenga. But my favourite drum licks are in Toxicity.

John adds alot more with double bass in mezmerize since he barely ever used it in previous albums. Although the beat in IEAIAIO is pretty amazing imo.

Endless Obsession
05-24-2005, 10:48 PM
John adds alot more with double bass in mezmerize since he barely ever used it in previous albums. Although the beat in IEAIAIO is pretty amazing imo.

Yeah i realized that he just started using his Bass drum a lot. You can hear it in Cigaro and BYOB a lot. The beat in IEAIAIO is almost the same exact thing as "Im the Man" by Anthrax, just without the closed high-hat.

Anarchy_In_Mexico
05-24-2005, 11:05 PM
My top 10 (at the moment):

1.- Sad Statue (Mezmerise)
2.- Highway Song (Steal This Album!)
3.- P.L.U.C.L. (Self-titled)
4.- Forest (Toxicity)
5.- Soil (Self-titled)
6.- Lost In Hollywood(Mezmerise)
7.- I-E-A-I-A-I-O (Steal This Album!)
8.- Psycho (Toxicity)
9.- Suite-Pee (Self-titled)
10.- Know (Self-titled)

other songs that really kick azs: Question (Mezmerise), Chop Suey! (Toxicity), Peephole (Self-tiled), Ego Brain (Steal This Album!)

Moses
05-24-2005, 11:57 PM
How did the other thread get in front of this one? People are so stupid.

G_Mac07
05-25-2005, 12:28 AM
How did the other thread get in front of this one? People are so stupid.

Perhaps because a more intelligent person linked them to this thread, and reported the other thread for closing, like the mods want.

EDIT: I second that people are stupid.

YDload
05-25-2005, 01:15 AM
I really like this album. It's quite possibly their best album ever, or at least their best one since the self-titled release.

"Question!" is my favorite song on the album, but there really aren't any weak songs. I also enjoy the extended Greek wedding dance music on "Radio/Video."

Brain Toad
05-25-2005, 01:18 AM
Really good album from them, I enjoyed it.

Skit
05-25-2005, 06:01 AM
Violent Pornography is the best song off the album :thumb:

azbassman
05-25-2005, 01:10 PM
Dont you think that serj looks a bit like Wierd Al?
Yeah i noticed that when i saw "System of a down live" on MTV...it was a little weird when i noticed it

Mambuto_O'Mally
05-25-2005, 02:26 PM
He is, although when you think about it, he has the most talent in the band. :lol:

I'm going to have to disagree.
John is amazing at what he does.

TheSubtleArts
05-25-2005, 03:58 PM
i think what Daron does as far as writing parts for guitar, bass, and vocals (and probably some drums too since its his favorite instrument), recording and producing,, i think he has the most talent in the band. i kno that john is a great drummer though, but i think it takes more talent to do all the other stuff that Daron does.

Mambuto_O'Mally
05-25-2005, 04:02 PM
^^^
:wave:
He's an egomaniac though.

I think his days are numbered in SOAD if he keeps up what he's doing.

Endless Obsession
05-25-2005, 04:10 PM
I think his days are numbered in SOAD if he keeps up what he's doing.

No, he writes almost all of their music, they cant just kick him out. If they did, there would be no more SOAD, or they would be completely different.

PepsiMetal
05-25-2005, 04:54 PM
Yea, there's no way they're kicking daron out. They probably wont kick none of them out cause they're all good and they probably have bonded since they all have similar background and such.

Rothmans
05-25-2005, 05:06 PM
Daron is a good all round musician, He use to be my hero when i was younger :embarrased:

Endless Obsession
05-25-2005, 05:16 PM
Yea, there's no way they're kicking daron out. They probably wont kick none of them out cause they're all good and they probably have bonded since they all have similar background and such.

The only one i could see getting kicked out, and them still remaining the same band, would be Shavo. Hes not really a big part of the band.

BlueThunder
05-25-2005, 07:22 PM
No, he writes almost all of their music, they cant just kick him out. If they did, there would be no more SOAD, or they would be completely different.


Hell no! Nobody can leave SOAD. Nobody's going to be kicked out either. They can NEVER break up! I'm not going through what I went through with RATM again. So I'm going to say it again: They can NEVER break up!! Not even Shavo can leave. He's part of it just as much as serj or daron, he's been there since the begining.

FFbassist26
05-25-2005, 09:11 PM
i think system of a down kick ***. daron is a very talented guitarist in my opinion

Mambuto_O'Mally
05-25-2005, 10:46 PM
Well heres what I'm saying:

Imagine your in a band and all of a sudden one of the members starts doing everything, I think you'd be pissed, ESPECIALLY if you have had some success.
I'm a SOAD fan and I used to think Daron was the greatest; but I feel bad for Shavo. I mean he barely played anything on the new albums. And think about Serj. Half the time he's not even singing his own lyrics. I don't think it would be wise to kick Daron out but you have to look at it from every angle.

And didn't Serj write all the lyrics for the first album? I'm too lazy to check the booklet

Moses
05-25-2005, 11:03 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing Daron get kicked out because the guitarist that replaced him would probably be less annoying. The music would change drastically which would be a bad thing in my eyes, but you never know.

Ultimate Donky
05-25-2005, 11:53 PM
Imagine your in a band and all of a sudden one of the members starts doing everything, I think you'd be pissed, ESPECIALLY if you have had some success.
I'm a SOAD fan and I used to think Daron was the greatest; but I feel bad for Shavo. I mean he barely played anything on the new albums. And think about Serj. Half the time he's not even singing his own lyrics. I don't think it would be wise to kick Daron out but you have to look at it from every angle.

And didn't Serj write all the lyrics for the first album? I'm too lazy to check the booklet

From the looks of one of the new interviews, Shavo was saying that the "Daron played almost all the bass" thing was blown way out of proportion. Shavo said that he himself played most of it, and then Daron went in afterwards and did some of the trickier parts.

Daron apparantly has always written 90% of the music, and the vast majority of his songs come from HIS ideas. But Serj does put his poetic spin on them. Daron said that he has written almost every SOAD chorus, but Serj puts his spin on Daron's ideas for lyrics in the verses. On the new album it sounds like most of the lyrics are just Daron's, which are more repetitive and less poetic than Serj's, but I think he gets his point across.

Daron isn't getting kicked out of the band, he more or less IS System of a Down. We're stuck with his good, and stuck with his insane.

PepsiMetal
05-25-2005, 11:58 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing Daron get kicked out because the guitarist that replaced him would probably be less annoying. The music would change drastically which would be a bad thing in my eyes, but you never know.

So you want him to get kicked out, and you know it would make music sound different with new guitarist, and that's bad. :confused:

ACircuitShock
05-26-2005, 12:05 AM
SOAD is definitley my guilty pleasure. I love how frantic and schizophrenic they are, they can be a different band from song to song and I love that about them. Alot of people classify them as nu-metal, but they are alot more experimental and creative than alot of the ****ty nu metal out there. Different from the rest of stuff i listen to, but i listen to alot of different stuff. Anways, i wouldn't mind seeing them live some time... good stuff.

Six Foot Revolver
05-26-2005, 02:20 AM
I wouldn't mind seeing Daron get kicked out because the guitarist that replaced him would probably be less annoying. The music would change drastically which would be a bad thing in my eyes, but you never know.
Does it matter if he is annoying when throwing him out the band will ruin System of a Down?

Hell no! Nobody can leave SOAD. Nobody's going to be kicked out either. They can NEVER break up! I'm not going through what I went through with RATM again. So I'm going to say it again: They can NEVER break up!! Not even Shavo can leave. He's part of it just as much as serj or daron, he's been there since the begining.
I recommend you see that sooner of later SOAD is coming to an end whether you like it or not

From the looks of one of the new interviews, Shavo was saying that the "Daron played almost all the bass" thing was blown way out of proportion. Shavo said that he himself played most of it, and then Daron went in afterwards and did some of the trickier parts.

Daron apparantly has always written 90% of the music, and the vast majority of his songs come from HIS ideas. But Serj does put his poetic spin on them. Daron said that he has written almost every SOAD chorus, but Serj puts his spin on Daron's ideas for lyrics in the verses. On the new album it sounds like most of the lyrics are just Daron's, which are more repetitive and less poetic than Serj's, but I think he gets his point across.

Daron isn't getting kicked out of the band, he more or less IS System of a Down. We're stuck with his good, and stuck with his insane.
This guy speaks the truth

The only one i could see getting kicked out, and them still remaining the same band, would be Shavo. Hes not really a big part of the band.
123

woah! this thread is on the fifteenth thread! :cool:

Skit
05-26-2005, 03:56 AM
Dont ever break up SOAD!!
I couldnt bare it :thumb:

Six Foot Revolver
05-26-2005, 04:08 PM
I finally got Mezmerise today and at first thought it was average but it is definately growing on me :thumb:

Hui_LP
05-26-2005, 04:21 PM
Yeah, it does.

Start. Listening. To. Sad Statue. Mxican.

It ****ing rules!

Six Foot Revolver
05-26-2005, 04:35 PM
Yeah, it does.

Start. Listening. To. Sad Statue. Mxican.

It ****ing rules!
My favourite tracks thus far:
Cigaro
Radio
Violent Pornography
Sad Statue

Thor
05-26-2005, 04:56 PM
My favorite tracks, in no order:
Question!
Cigaro
BYOB
Lost In Hollywood
Radio/Video

Endless Obsession
05-26-2005, 06:23 PM
When i first listened to it i thought that there were only a few good songs, but they are all really good. The only when i dont really like is Lost in Hollywood. Other than that they are all really good.

paco999
05-26-2005, 07:26 PM
When i first listened to it i thought that there were only a few good songs, but they are all really good. The only when i dont really like is Lost in Hollywood. Other than that they are all really good.

Lost in Hollywood is just a little slower and its not what we're used to listen from SOAD but I say it is a good track. But the cd has better ones like Question! I love that song :thumb:

Rockafella
05-26-2005, 08:40 PM
Did anyone else find Steal This Album quite dissappointing?
For an album with only un-released songs, I thought it was really good.
It's great when you are listening to it while mowing the lawn. :thumb:

Rockafella
05-26-2005, 08:42 PM
My favorite tracks, in no order:
Question!
Cigaro
BYOB
Lost In Hollywood
Radio/Video
Replace Lost In Hollywood with Violent Pornography and 123.

YDload
05-26-2005, 10:10 PM
Lost in Hollywood is very similar to Radiohead's "Street Spirit," or at least it seems. Of course the vocals are very different.

PepsiMetal
05-26-2005, 10:14 PM
When i first listened to it i thought that there were only a few good songs, but they are all really good. The only when i dont really like is Lost in Hollywood. Other than that they are all really good.

I think lost in hollywood is a great song. It's probably like 5th best or something off the album for me.

BillCosby
05-26-2005, 10:16 PM
I'm really diggin' the new album.

Shattered_Future
05-26-2005, 10:17 PM
Well heres what I'm saying:

Imagine your in a band and all of a sudden one of the members starts doing everything, I think you'd be pissed, ESPECIALLY if you have had some success.
I'm a SOAD fan and I used to think Daron was the greatest; but I feel bad for Shavo. I mean he barely played anything on the new albums. And think about Serj. Half the time he's not even singing his own lyrics. I don't think it would be wise to kick Daron out but you have to look at it from every angle.

And didn't Serj write all the lyrics for the first album? I'm too lazy to check the booklet

In Nightwish, Tuomas (the keyboard player) writes ALL of their music...the overwhelming majority by himself.

Yet they have released upwards of 5 albums (i think).

If the one person is good at what they do (in Nighwish's and SOADs IMO) then by all means LET them.

Huber
05-26-2005, 10:18 PM
Don't know if this was already discussed but...

I heard this thing about Lars Ulrich "air drumming at a SOAD concert" and digging it and whatever. I think people expect a tour from the two. So what do you think of a SOAD Metallica Tour?

Moses
05-26-2005, 10:19 PM
Don't know if this was already discussed but...

I heard this thing about Lars Ulrich "air drumming at a SOAD concert" and digging it and whatever. I think people expect a tour from the two. So what do you think of a SOAD Metallica Tour?
That'd be the ****.

TheCrimsonKing
05-26-2005, 10:21 PM
I was thinking the same thing about having one guy do all the work. I feel its gotta suck for the rest of the members and I would guess they would quit or start side projects. The thing is that daron is really running things, in a good way, and its really his ideas and songs that are pretty much keeping system of a down alive. Serj is cool to and i find it sort of messed up that daron is also doing a good chunk of the singing, although I like darons voice too. Shavo didnt get to play his bass on the record for the most part but hey its all good :)

Shattered_Future
05-26-2005, 10:23 PM
That'd be the ****.

I'd think it would be weird...2 completely different bands touring together would be kinda odd...

Then again, Megadeth and Dream Theater are on tour, so i guess anything goes.

Ultimate Donky
05-26-2005, 10:25 PM
Don't know if this was already discussed but...

I heard this thing about Lars Ulrich "air drumming at a SOAD concert" and digging it and whatever. I think people expect a tour from the two. So what do you think of a SOAD Metallica Tour?

I personally think that would be awesome, i'm also looking forward the Mars Volta/SOAD tour later this year. One more band is supposed to be added, who knows who it'll be(certainly not Metallica, but that'd be great).

PepsiMetal
05-26-2005, 10:26 PM
Don't know if this was already discussed but...

I heard this thing about Lars Ulrich "air drumming at a SOAD concert" and digging it and whatever. I think people expect a tour from the two. So what do you think of a SOAD Metallica Tour?

That would definetely be one concert that I wouldn't miss.

Darkness
05-26-2005, 10:32 PM
I heard the new cd at the cd store in the sampling thingy and I thought some of it was really cool... I laughed pretty hard at some of the songs (cigaro), so did my friend whos a hardcore fan.

Dr. Jake Destructo
05-26-2005, 11:03 PM
I wanna see SoaD and Rage Against the Machine tour. :angry:

Six Foot Revolver
05-27-2005, 02:23 AM
Don't know if this was already discussed but...

I heard this thing about Lars Ulrich "air drumming at a SOAD concert" and digging it and whatever. I think people expect a tour from the two. So what do you think of a SOAD Metallica Tour?
That would be pretty coo' but no where near as good as...

I wanna see SoaD and Rage Against the Machine tour. :angry:

asilaydying420
05-27-2005, 03:56 AM
I reccomend the first album to anyone who doesn't have it. I find it much more 'pure', not some watered down crap.

/cant explain
i totally agree...like toxicity was pretty good but their new one (mezmerize) is no where near as good as their first one

AIC/EAZY-E
05-27-2005, 04:24 AM
Explain. Mesmerize isn't very lengthy, and it IS part of a 2 CD set, but on it's own it stands as a good record. It has it's fare shares of self-titledness too (This Cocaine.. mostly). I don't think Daron and co. are trying to make records one better than the other, just all different, and then as a whole catalogue, the material proves to be all on the same level just in different aspects. Self-titled, Toxicity, Steal This Album, Mesmerize all boast one feature particularly better than the other, eg. the songwriting is best on Self-titled, Steal this Album covers the most ground, Mesmerize is them at their instrumental best (even though there's no solo's ala. Soil) and Toxicity has a mix of all these things proving to be an overall fan favourite and the most accessable (IMO). SOAD really do have a wide spectrum once you're familiar with everything they've done.

Ultimate Donky
05-27-2005, 04:34 AM
^agreed

I think Mesmerize is SOAD's best work, but I could see how some who call themselves SOAD fans wouldn't like it. It doesn't have the raw aggression of the self-titled album, and that is part of what originally attracted many SOAD fans. It just depends on particular taste. I like that SOAD are trying different things and growing with every album, it keeps them sounding fresh.

Mambuto_O'Mally
05-27-2005, 08:43 AM
^^^
How can you say its their best work. I mean listen to the intensity and pure rawness from the first album. And even though its not the greatest I love the drum sound on that one.

Iceman-rocker
05-27-2005, 09:09 AM
self titled, and mezmerize are my favorites. i used to really like toxicity but after listening to it forever i got bored. and i never really liked steal this album that much, except for a couple songs. question! is such a cool song.

Six Foot Revolver
05-27-2005, 10:34 AM
How can you say its their best work.
Because he has an opinion, just like everyone else

NP:Revenga

PepsiMetal
05-27-2005, 11:52 AM
^^^
How can you say its their best work. I mean listen to the intensity and pure rawness from the first album. And even though its not the greatest I love the drum sound on that one.

I also agree that mesmerize might be soad's best work so far. Sure Chop Suey kicks *** the most, but still, almost all songs on mesmerize are great.

Endless Obsession
05-27-2005, 12:29 PM
Don't know if this was already discussed but...

I heard this thing about Lars Ulrich "air drumming at a SOAD concert" and digging it and whatever. I think people expect a tour from the two. So what do you think of a SOAD Metallica Tour?

Someone mentioned it earlier. Yeah i think that would be a fantastic tour. Maybe add in a few other less popular bands and they could have another Summer Sanitarium.

Like:

Metallica
System of a Daron
Killswitch Engage
Mastodon

4 completely different bands, but it would be a great tour anyway.

cos you know that i can
05-27-2005, 01:01 PM
Has anyone seen SOAD play recently, or have any idea what songs they might be playing live? I'm seeing them next Friday, at the Brixton Academy in London. Should be insane:)

Endless Obsession
05-27-2005, 01:22 PM
Has anyone seen SOAD play recently, or have any idea what songs they might be playing live? I'm seeing them next Friday, at the Brixton Academy in London. Should be insane:)

I know they have setlists on their website.

cos you know that i can
05-27-2005, 01:27 PM
I know they have setlists on their website.
Ah, thanks. Looks pretty sweet, they've got a load of my favourite SOAD songs on the setlist, and also Holy Mountain from Hypnotize, which I haven't heard yet. :thumb:

davestar
05-27-2005, 02:03 PM
Has anyone seen SOAD play recently, or have any idea what songs they might be playing live? I'm seeing them next Friday, at the Brixton Academy in London. Should be insane:)

saw them at the 9:30 Club in DC a couple weeks ago. fairly short set (hour and 10 minutes) with no audience interaction, but they rocked nonetheless. they pretty much played the Austin set list (found on their website) minus Holy Mountains.

Mambuto_O'Mally
05-27-2005, 02:23 PM
..almost all songs on mesmerize are great.

I find that too...

..but I just don't like them all together.

I mean some of their best work is on that album, but all together I don't like it as much

Are you as confused as I am right now?

asilaydying420
05-27-2005, 03:17 PM
Someone mentioned it earlier. Yeah i think that would be a fantastic tour. Maybe add in a few other less popular bands and they could have another Summer Sanitarium.

Like:

Metallica
System of a Daron
Killswitch Engage
Mastodon

4 completely different bands, but it would be a great tour anyway.
I totatlly agree...that would be one great a** tour

Endless Obsession
05-27-2005, 03:20 PM
Metallica
System of a Daron
Killswitch Engage
Mastodon


Nobody noticed my brilliant re-naming of the band. :upset:

Mambuto_O'Mally
05-27-2005, 03:25 PM
Nobody noticed my brilliant re-naming of the band. :upset:
:lol: :lol:

I like that. I'm surprised I missed that. :amaze:

YDload
05-27-2005, 08:17 PM
Nobody noticed my brilliant re-naming of the band. :upset:

It's lame. You also acted like the four metal bands were incredibly diverse somehow. They're not even different genres!

Thor
05-27-2005, 09:08 PM
Nobody noticed my brilliant re-naming of the band. :upset:
It's sad but true, really. Daron tries to do too much.

Mambuto_O'Mally
05-27-2005, 11:24 PM
It's sad but true, really. Daron tries to do too much.

I can't believe I missed it. That's hillarious. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Sad but true, eh?

Element of LED 435
05-28-2005, 12:12 PM
i have toxicity and mezmerize....... now mezmerize has ALOT of good songs but like b4 said they don't fit on the same cd which is good for some people, it gives u a bit of everything

Toxicity has some good songs which are good and some jus bore me like "X" and "Jet Pilot" but its an album with more meaningful lyrics then Mezmerize and is a lot harder than it

azbassman
05-28-2005, 04:46 PM
i have toxicity and mezmerize....... now mezmerize has ALOT of good songs but like b4 said they don't fit on the same cd which is good for some people, it gives u a bit of everything

Toxicity has some good songs which are good and some jus bore me like "X" and "Jet Pilot" but its an album with more meaningful lyrics then Mezmerize and is a lot harder than it
I have every one of there albums they are one of my favorite bands...i agree w/ u on some parts of what you said...like mezmerize has a little bit of everything and isnt as hard and has a lot of good song...BUT...IMO i think everyone of there albums has a lot of good songs and some that bore you, it just deoends on the person and what you like because alot of people dont like STA...but i like it...it just depends

Thor
05-28-2005, 04:56 PM
I can't believe I missed it. That's hillarious. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Sad but true, eh?
Well, yeah, it is. Daron sings a whole lot more than he used to and if I am not mistaken he recorded a lot of bass on this album too. The only person he hasn't bothered yet is John. Besides, Serj's voice destroys Daron's.

azbassman
05-28-2005, 05:06 PM
I like darons voice...but thats it...serj just has on of the most versitile voices he can go high and he can go low he does destroy daron

Thor
05-28-2005, 05:47 PM
I like darons voice...but thats it...serj just has on of the most versitile voices he can go high and he can go low he does destroy daron
Punctuation is our friend, remember that.

Ultimate Donky
05-28-2005, 06:18 PM
Well, yeah, it is. Daron sings a whole lot more than he used to and if I am not mistaken he recorded a lot of bass on this album too. The only person he hasn't bothered yet is John. Besides, Serj's voice destroys Daron's.

Daron does write most of the drum parts, in fact he said that the drums are the first part he thinks up when he writes a song. But yeah I don't think John has to worry about Daron taking over his drumming duties, John can play very well. Daron only played some of the tougher bass parts on the new album, since Shavo is a very average bassist and hadn't mastered them enough yet.

Rothmans
05-28-2005, 06:30 PM
Metal hammer gave it 10/10 for some reason I dont htink it deserved it and it kept blowing its horn.

NoHero9
05-28-2005, 06:40 PM
The first album is definitely the best, mezmerize makes my ears bleed blood. How come Daron sounds like ringo starr on the last song? Cigarro is the only song i remotely like.

Ultimate Donky
05-28-2005, 06:56 PM
The first album is definitely the best, mezmerize makes my ears bleed blood. How come Daron sounds like ringo starr on the last song? Cigarro is the only song i remotely like.

The first album is the best if you're looking for aggression, yes. So that makes sense that you only like Cigaro from the new album. As for the "Daron with a british accent" thing.....he's just doing what SOAD does quite often, satirizing.

NoHero9
05-28-2005, 06:58 PM
I could give a shi't less about aggression, its just that the new album is shi't, toxicity gets old quick, and there are too many sleepers on steal this album. but I still enjoy chick'n' stu.

Ultimate Donky
05-28-2005, 07:24 PM
I could give a shi't less about aggression, its just that the new album is shi't, toxicity gets old quick, and there are too many sleepers on steal this album. but I still enjoy chick'n' stu.

Well that's all personal opinion....but care to explain WHY you think Mesmerize sucks? I've heard people saying things like "it's annoying" and "there's too many pop hooks" and other silly things like that, what's your view?

Txus
05-28-2005, 07:52 PM
The best songs in the whole cd for me are:
Cigaro
Question!
violent pornography
sad statue

In order

Salivation
05-28-2005, 08:31 PM
I almost wanna relate these guys to a new age Rage Against the Machine

Element of LED 435
05-28-2005, 09:36 PM
my favorite songs in order on the new album are:

Radio/Video
Violent Pornography
Sad Statue
Cigaro
Old School Hollywood
This Cocaine Makes me Feel Like I'm on This Song
B.Y.O.B. (gets repititive)

Thor
05-28-2005, 09:47 PM
I almost wanna relate these guys to a new age Rage Against the Machine
I wouldn't say that because they don't really rap in their songs, and Daron isn't as good as Tom Morello.

RATM>SOAD

illkillyouinthenighthahaha
05-28-2005, 10:02 PM
Dude SOAD is my favorite band. When i get the money im buyin theyre new CD! i can wait. i need it and hypnotize when i comes out.i have all their others :thumb: :thumb: .
:wave: <--- that is an interesting looking dude by the way

And im gonna have to disagree with you Metal_Head_617 i like daron better. actually theyre about equal but i like darons style better.

____:evil: _____
:evil: | :amaze: | :evil:
____:evil: _____

illkillyouinthenighthahaha
05-28-2005, 10:04 PM
thats me



\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

RockRevival
05-28-2005, 10:07 PM
No it isn't. Dumbass.

NoHero9
05-28-2005, 10:08 PM
also, I dont like it, it is my opinion, and if you like it, that is fine, I like the band, just not this cd, just like I like metallica, but not st. anger, then again so does everyone, thats adifferent story entirely.

Rothmans
05-28-2005, 10:10 PM
People say these are the new ratm I dont believe so what so ever dont diss ratm's legacy same goes to s.o.a.d they are too different from each other.

PepsiMetal
05-29-2005, 12:57 AM
I could give a shi't less about aggression, its just that the new album is shi't

No it's not. The only thing better in previous albums than mesmerize is agression. They have evolved so much musically and vocally. Excluding Chop Suey from all of this cause that song still kicks *** the most.

Six Foot Revolver
05-29-2005, 09:21 AM
I wouldn't say that because they don't really rap in their songs, and Daron isn't as good as Tom Morello.

RATM>SOAD
I agree entirely even though Morello is defiantely overated

also, I dont like it, it is my opinion, and if you like it, that is fine, I like the band, just not this cd, just like I like metallica, but not st. anger, then again so does everyone, thats adifferent story entirely.
I liked St. Anger just not as much as the rest of there albums

I almost wanna relate these guys to a new age Rage Against the Machine
IMO that would be a very silly thing to do

Kyle
05-29-2005, 09:33 AM
i just read this months total guitar, has Daron on the front. I didn't know he played drums too, and apparantly wrote all but 3 of Chavos bass parts.

Thor
05-29-2005, 09:35 AM
I agree entirely even though Morello is defiantely overated
He is overrated, yes, but then so are tons of other guitarists out there.

Mambuto_O'Mally
05-29-2005, 09:42 AM
And im gonna have to disagree with you Metal_Head_617 i like daron better. actually theyre about equal but i like darons style better. :angry: :angry: :angry:

How can you say that. I think you need to wake up from that dream wolrd your living in. Listen to "Take The Power Back" by RATM or "Doesn't Remind me of Anything" by Audioslave. Then listen to some Malakian solo and then tell me who's better.

Skit
05-29-2005, 10:56 AM
Doesnt Tom just rub the fretboard and call it a solo?
:lol:


Darons solo's rule, I love the Núguns banjo solo :thumb:

Ultimate Donky
05-29-2005, 03:56 PM
Daron has good, simple solos. They aren't mindblowing or anything close to it, but they do sound good and fit the song. Daron isn't exactly the greatest guitarist in the world, but he does write some pretty good riffs, and goodsongs in general, and that to me is much more important than a crazy shredding solo.

Six Foot Revolver
05-29-2005, 03:57 PM
:angry: :angry: :angry:

How can you say that. I think you need to wake up from that dream wolrd your living in. Listen to "Take The Power Back" by RATM or "Doesn't Remind me of Anything" by Audioslave. Then listen to some Malakian solo and then tell me who's better.
Stop being a Nazi or get the **** out of my thread :)

Thor
05-29-2005, 03:59 PM
Doesnt Tom just rub the fretboard and call it a solo?
:lol:


Darons solo's rule, I love the Núguns banjo solo :thumb:
He did in Bulls on Parade, but that's probably his easiest solo. If you really want to see what he is capable of listen to "Township Rebellion".

Six Foot Revolver
05-29-2005, 04:20 PM
He did in Bulls on Parade, but that's probably his easiest solo. If you really want to see what he is capable of listen to "Township Rebellion".
My favourite Rage song :thumb:

Anyways, less Rage more SOAD dammit! :angry:

System
05-29-2005, 04:54 PM
Daron has good, simple solos. They aren't mindblowing or anything close to it, but they do sound good and fit the song. Daron isn't exactly the greatest guitarist in the world, but he does write some pretty good riffs, and goodsongs in general, and that to me is much more important than a crazy shredding solo.

hmmm... the solo in Psycho blows my mind every time... you're right though, he isnt the greatest guitarist, but he is one hell of guitarist for the amount he contributes to the band with his guitar AND vocals, which in my opinion totally makes the band.

Shattered_Future
05-29-2005, 04:57 PM
I think I'm the only one who hates Daron's vocals...

His riffs are unbelievably fun to play on guitar, but his voice is SOOO irritating.

Ultimate Donky
05-29-2005, 05:04 PM
I think I'm the only one who hates Daron's vocals...

His riffs are unbelievably fun to play on guitar, but his voice is SOOO irritating.

You're definately not the only one, that's one of the biggest complaints from people who don't like Mezmerize. He does have a high-pitched voice at times, and I could see how one would find it annoying. I personally think he sounds better than the singers of most of these new pop-punk bands on MTV, which is very sad indeed. That Newfound Glory guy is the worst singer ever, i'd be embarrassed to have a voice like that. But yeah anyways, Daron's high-pitched voice works with Serj's deep voice very well IMO. Daron seems to know his limits on vocals and doesn't overdo it(unless it's on purpose like in Old School Hollywood).

Edit: Happy zero?

+zero+
05-29-2005, 05:13 PM
ive seen other people who hate darons voice. i like it personally. i think it can sound good in a beautiful way and a freakin out wtf way.and about darons solos, u gotta give him some credit on solos like soil, science, psycho, marmalade, metro, and peephole has a cool solo in it also. they may not be the hardest things to play, but imo i like his solos more than toms any day.(no offense to tom or tom lovers)

+zero+
05-29-2005, 05:21 PM
and something i need to complain about.. NOBODY SPELLS meZmerize correctly. .. its a Z not an S.. ive already mentioned this like more than once in this thread...

fans..pff..

Blizzink
05-29-2005, 05:24 PM
and something i need to complain about.. NOBODY SPELLS meZmerize correctly. .. its a Z not an S.. ive already mentioned this like more than once in this thread...

fans..pff..

You've already (somewhat) clearly made that statement.

Your access to a computer must mean that yesterday did not affect you in any way, except for that freak-out, of course.

PepsiMetal
05-29-2005, 06:08 PM
hmmm... the solo in Psycho blows my mind every time...

Yea that psycho solo kicks ***. :thumb:

and something i need to complain about.. NOBODY SPELLS meZmerize correctly. .. its a Z not an S.. ive already mentioned this like more than once in this thread...

fans..pff..

Nobody really cares if it's spelt mezmerize or mesmerize. It's not like you dont know what we mean. :rolleyes:

TheCrimsonKing
05-29-2005, 06:09 PM
Yea that psycho solo kicks ***. :thumb:


theres a solo? :lol:
im just hating on you guys sorry...im just into really harder solos but yeah that "solo" is ok. overally its a pretty ok songs

FattMattNIS
05-29-2005, 06:11 PM
ive seen other people who hate darons voice. i like it personally. i think it can sound good in a beautiful way and a freakin out wtf way.and about darons solos, u gotta give him some credit on solos like soil, science, psycho, marmalade, metro, and peephole has a cool solo in it also. they may not be the hardest things to play, but imo i like his solos more than toms any day.(no offense to tom or tom lovers)


ditto... plus he write some pretty cool lyrics.

+zero+
05-29-2005, 06:16 PM
You've already (somewhat) clearly made that statement.

Your access to a computer must mean that yesterday did not affect you in any way, except for that freak-out, of course.

and i did say i already mentioned this did i not?.. but whatever..real cool. :thumb:

Mambuto_O'Mally
05-29-2005, 07:24 PM
Stop being a Nazi or get the **** out of my thread :)

Im not a Nazi. I looooooooove SOAD, but I love RATM more. Can't I speak my opinion?

P.S. I think that Psyco solo is amazing, I think Tom Morello is better.

Skit
05-30-2005, 06:48 AM
Mezmerise :thumb:

But who cares? :p

Six Foot Revolver
05-30-2005, 06:51 AM
Im not a Nazi. I looooooooove SOAD, but I love RATM more. Can't I speak my opinion?

P.S. I think that Psyco solo is amazing, I think Tom Morello is better.

:angry: :angry: :angry:

How can you say that. I think you need to wake up from that dream wolrd your living in. Listen to "Take The Power Back" by RATM or "Doesn't Remind me of Anything" by Audioslave. Then listen to some Malakian solo and then tell me who's better.
Doesn't sound like an opinion to me :)

MSV
05-30-2005, 06:51 AM
SYSTEM OF A DOWN!!!!!!!!!!
Great Band! I like them!!! :smoke: :smoke: :smoke: :p

MSV
05-30-2005, 06:53 AM
bbbbrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!ggggggggggggrrrrr rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!vvvvvvvvvvrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Ultimate Donky
05-30-2005, 07:07 AM
My only complaints with Mezmerize:

1) Some of the new songs lack emotion in comparison to previous efforts. The Cocaine one in particular just sounds like Serj half-assing and just talking weird. Not that I have a problem with him talking weird, but he's usually much better at it, if that makes sense.
2) Some of the lyrics are way too simple and repetitive. You mean to tell me Daron seriously couldn't come up with a 2nd, different verse of lyrics to Radio/Video? It really wouldn't seem that difficult. Not a big deal I know, but it's basically listening to the same exact thing twice in a row.
3) Everyone is saying this I know....but they recorded over 30 songs for the 2 albums, and it only looks like they're going to release maybe 23ish, and they're still charging for a double album when it will barely be more minutes than a normal album. That's stupid.
4) That's all I can think of for now.

Anyone agree/disagree with any of that?

PeEpHoLe_10
05-30-2005, 07:07 AM
I think I'm the only one who hates Daron's vocals...

His riffs are unbelievably fun to play on guitar, but his voice is SOOO irritating.

Agreed.

MSV
05-30-2005, 07:16 AM
Byob!!!
Question!!
Lost in Hollywood!
Cigaro!

These songs are very good!!!

Why do they always send the poor!!!!!!!!!! :evil: :smash:

Westy
05-30-2005, 07:17 AM
i was very disappointed in their latest album mesmerise aswell,

i think their time is done, self-titled and toxicity probably their best.

darrens voice is terrible aswell. in "Radio Video" they do like a duet lol

Thor
05-30-2005, 09:06 AM
Some people just don't like Mezmerize because it isn't the same old SOAD they are used to. I think their change is actually better, and a major improvement from Steal this Album.

MSV
05-30-2005, 09:36 AM
Some people just don't like Mezmerize because it isn't the same old SOAD they are used to. I think their change is actually better, and a major improvement from Steal this Album.

You're right dude!!!! :thumb:

YDload
05-30-2005, 02:20 PM
i was very disappointed in their latest album mesmerise aswell,

i think their time is done, self-titled and toxicity probably their best.

darrens voice is terrible aswell. in "Radio Video" they do like a duet lol

They've always been doing duets since Toxicity, I don't know why you could only single out one song. Has it been THAT long since Chop Suey was all over the radio/video?

Skit
05-30-2005, 02:30 PM
Yeah they have always done duets, Even in the ST days.

PepsiMetal
05-30-2005, 03:56 PM
i was very disappointed in their latest album mesmerise aswell,

i think their time is done, self-titled and toxicity probably their best.

darrens voice is terrible aswell. in "Radio Video" they do like a duet lol

Their time is done because they've evolved and are moving on to something more complex and better? :confused:

And yes, they've been doing duets since they started. Chop suey is a good example.

cramboli
05-30-2005, 04:18 PM
Some people just don't like Mezmerize because it isn't the same old SOAD they are used to. I think their change is actually better, and a major improvement from Steal this Album.
Some of the songs can be linked musicly back to the older ones. Like in a few song they sound somewhat like older ones (<and if anyone use that as a negative to them are ****in idiots.)

Skit
05-31-2005, 06:16 AM
Anyone up for entering a SOAD cover for the comp?
(http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=347154&page=1)

I play bass so we need a guitarist, a drummer and vocals :thumb:

Six Foot Revolver
05-31-2005, 06:31 AM
I know this seems like a dumb question but do you have recording capabilites

Skit
05-31-2005, 06:34 AM
I know this seems like a dumb question but do you have recording capabilites

:lol: That is a dumb question, of course I do ;)
I rig my amp up to my computer via an adapter. :thumb:

Six Foot Revolver
05-31-2005, 06:38 AM
Sorry for asking but I started a cover band in the 'tallica thread and I got my members and we decided songs. Then I asked them to record there bits and none of them had recording capabilites.

Also, Metalhead wasn't it me that came up with the ***official***threads cover bands?

Spiritofmosa
05-31-2005, 07:14 AM
Some people just don't like Mezmerize because it isn't the same old SOAD they are used to. I think their change is actually better, and a major improvement from Steal this Album.
mesmerise is more creative, but steal this album has its good songs

Hauntedman
05-31-2005, 12:20 PM
All albums are pretty **** good. Yeah, Mezmerize may not seem as heavy or the vocals as angry as Toxicity but its still a good album. I can't wait for Hypnotize.

Mambuto_O'Mally
05-31-2005, 02:25 PM
Anyone up for entering a SOAD cover for the comp?
(http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=347154&page=1)

I play bass so we need a guitarist, a drummer and vocals :thumb:

What song???? :naughty:

I've a sound card that I can plug my guitar cord through a 1/4" to 1/8" jack.

Skit
05-31-2005, 02:40 PM
What song???? :naughty:

I've a sound card that I can plug my guitar cord through a 1/4" to 1/8" jack.

Well if we want to win I think we should choose something that everyone (the none fans) know, Perhaps Chop suey / Toxicity / Aerials ? they seemed to be the most popular, correct me if Im wrong :thumb:

Six Foot Revolver
05-31-2005, 02:52 PM
Well if we want to win I think we should choose something that everyone (the none fans) know, Perhaps Chop suey / Toxicity / Aerials ? they seemed to be the most popular, correct me if Im wrong :thumb:
This is true but I think you should play Cigaro. I don't know why but you should :)

Mambuto_O'Mally
05-31-2005, 02:54 PM
whatever you want. I don't think it should be Cigaro because I don't think that many people have heard it yet.

Six Foot Revolver
05-31-2005, 02:55 PM
Many people have because it was leaked months before the album was released

Mambuto_O'Mally
05-31-2005, 03:04 PM
But I'm talking about the rest of the people in the forums.

Does anybody know the tone control settings Daron uses. I just go with whatever, but I'd like to know the real ones.

Mambuto_O'Mally
05-31-2005, 04:16 PM
So we need a drummer and vocalist right?
Anybody a drummer or a singer in here???

cramboli
05-31-2005, 04:20 PM
nope...

Mambuto_O'Mally
05-31-2005, 04:32 PM
DAMMIT!!!!!!!

Endless Obsession
05-31-2005, 10:59 PM
whatever you want. I don't think it should be Cigaro because I don't think that many people have heard it yet.

Yeah dude that was on the radio like way before BYOB.

PepsiMetal
05-31-2005, 11:04 PM
You guys should definetely play chop suey. It's their best song afterall. Although they did say only official threads and this one isn't exactly official.

Insubordinator
05-31-2005, 11:07 PM
does anyone know when the SOAD/The Mars Volta tour starts? Im a fan of both bands and i cant wait till the come to my area

XxDEATHBLOOMSxX
06-01-2005, 12:03 AM
one of my favorite bands

fav albums in order:
System of a Down
Steal This Album
Mezmerize
Toxicity

Toxicity is my least favorite one but when i got it it was ALL i listened to, my copy is all scratched up i listened to it so much

Skit
06-01-2005, 05:17 AM
So we need a drummer and vocalist right?
Anybody a drummer or a singer in here???

I can probably get someone to do the drums if there is no-one else on the forums who can/will do them.

Six Foot Revolver
06-01-2005, 05:31 AM
one of my favorite bands

fav albums in order:
System of a Down
Steal This Album
Mezmerize
Toxicity

Toxicity is my least favorite one but when i got it it was ALL i listened to, my copy is all scratched up i listened to it so much
That is a very unusual order but it is your opinion :thumb:

tazzdevil316
06-01-2005, 05:59 AM
hmm, i wonder whether any of you actually know anything about the music, what it means and what SOAD fight for. The Armenian Genocide? Does anyone actually know what BYOB is about? or Old School Hollywood? didnt think so, stick to your Slipknot and COF with the other kids!

Six Foot Revolver
06-01-2005, 06:04 AM
hmm, i wonder whether any of you actually know anything about the music, what it means and what SOAD fight for. The Armenian Genocide? Does anyone actually know what BYOB is about? or Old School Hollywood? didnt think so, stick to your Slipknot and COF with the other kids!
Armenia is the county that SOAD come from which is in the south west of Asia. The Armenian Genocide is when the Turkish killed one and a half million Armenians. George Bush did not class it as genocide

tazzdevil316
06-01-2005, 06:12 AM
woo, someone not so dumb

Skit
06-01-2005, 06:14 AM
hmm, i wonder whether any of you actually know anything about the music, what it means and what SOAD fight for. The Armenian Genocide? Does anyone actually know what BYOB is about? or Old School Hollywood? didnt think so, stick to your Slipknot and COF with the other kids!

The Armenian Genocide, Is when the Turks killed millions (dont know the exact number) of armenians and the goverment refuses to acsept or acknowledge it.

BYOB is about the war, and how advertising shows the war "everybodys going to the party have a real good time" means that teh advertising is giving an impression of war as a "good time" and more people should join the "party"

Old school hollywood is about a celebrity baseball game daron attened and hated being around all the no-name-has-been-so-called-celebritys



Check and mate.. :thumb:

tazzdevil316
06-01-2005, 06:14 AM
1.5million dude

Skit
06-01-2005, 06:20 AM
ah ok :)
I knew it was in the area of 1-2 million

Ragamuffin
06-01-2005, 06:23 AM
I agree with what your talking about tazzdevil. I F*****g hate Slipknot they only appeal to little 10 year old kids because of those dumbass masks they wear. What do they actually sing about? They're another one of those bands who have no feeling or purpose behind their songs. They're just part of pop culture, their f*****g stupid t-shirts are proof. :angry:

tazzdevil316
06-01-2005, 06:23 AM
sorry dude, dont mean to be a jackarse, just i cant stand people who call themselves fans and know nothing, but i guess u do, if u like them say, but a fan is someone who knows at least something about anything about the band

tazzdevil316
06-01-2005, 06:24 AM
I agree with what your talking about tazzdevil. I F*****g hate Slipknot they only appeal to little 10 year old kids because of those dumbass masks they wear. What do they actually sing about? They're another one of those bands who have no feeling or purpose behind their songs. They're just part of pop culture, their f*****g stupid t-shirts are proof. :angry:

dude shut up! you missed the point completly...its not wat u listen to, its how you listen :lol:


and dont write in such a stupid colour

Six Foot Revolver
06-01-2005, 06:27 AM
sorry dude, dont mean to be a jackarse, just i cant stand people who call themselves fans and know nothing, but i guess u do, if u like them say, but a fan is someone who knows at least something about anything about the band
You will find that most people on these forums know what they are talking about :thumb:

I agree with what your talking about tazzdevil. I F*****g hate Slipknot they only appeal to little 10 year old kids because of those dumbass masks they wear. What do they actually sing about? They're another one of those bands who have no feeling or purpose behind their songs. They're just part of pop culture, their f*****g stupid t-shirts are proof. :angry:
STFU :). I have got to admit I did quite like vol. 3 the subliminal verses

tazzdevil316
06-01-2005, 06:28 AM
You will find that most people on these forums know what they are talking about :thumb:

i try to know wat im talkin about...and i write in a sensible colour hee hee :lol:

Skit
06-01-2005, 06:31 AM
I know almost everything about SOAD, Im an uber fan :p

Six Foot Revolver
06-01-2005, 06:32 AM
I know almost everything about SOAD, Im an uber fan :p
Explains why I never see you out of this thread :p :lol:

tazzdevil316
06-01-2005, 06:33 AM
I know almost everything about SOAD, Im an uber fan :p
i try im goin 2 see them 4 the second time in 2 weeks. Thats the second time ive ever seen them...in 2 weeks time. but they have moved up cos its the big arena this time...woo
btw i downladed friik! last night, good track

Skit
06-01-2005, 06:37 AM
i try im goin 2 see them 4 the second time in 2 weeks. Thats the second time ive ever seen them...in 2 weeks time. but they have moved up cos its the big arena this time...woo
btw i downladed friik! last night, good track

Cool, Where you seeing them at?
Last time I saw them live the crowd control barrier fell down and we lost half the set because it had to be fixed :upset:

tazzdevil316
06-01-2005, 06:38 AM
Cool, Where you seeing them at?
Last time I saw them live the crowd control barrier fell down and we lost half the set because it had to be fixed :upset:
Manchester Uk, the MEN arena, i went to see Rammstein there in february and its a great arena

Six Foot Revolver
06-01-2005, 06:46 AM
Manchester Uk, the MEN arena, i went to see Rammstein there in february and its a great arena
I was going to go see them there but ended up not doing :upset:


Edit:Holy ****! 20 page thread :cool:

Skit
06-01-2005, 06:47 AM
Anyone want me to upload some demos? :thumb:

tazzdevil316
06-01-2005, 06:48 AM
Anyone want me to upload some demos? :thumb:
dude got em all i thiiiin hee hee

tazzdevil316
06-01-2005, 06:49 AM
I was going to go see them there but ended up not doing :upset:


Edit:Holy ****! 20 page thread :cool:

spent £80 on ebay for pit tickets
for 2 tickets

tazzdevil316
06-01-2005, 06:50 AM
hell i gotta go now, i got am exam :(

Skit
06-01-2005, 06:51 AM
dude got em all i thiiiin hee hee

I doubt that..
Theres all there unrelased stuff, then theres demo of every song on every album then the alternate takes / different versions of the songs.

Not even I have all of them :rolleyes:

tazzdevil316
06-01-2005, 11:10 AM
YAY 500TH POST ON THE THREAD, ive got most of the really rare stuff

PepsiMetal
06-01-2005, 11:22 AM
I agree with what your talking about tazzdevil. I F*****g hate Slipknot they only appeal to little 10 year old kids because of those dumbass masks they wear. What do they actually sing about? They're another one of those bands who have no feeling or purpose behind their songs. They're just part of pop culture, their f*****g stupid t-shirts are proof. :angry:

Shush, they're not good charlotte. Their lyrics aren't bad at all.

tazzdevil316
06-01-2005, 11:25 AM
it depends, their lyrics and style have changed, if you look at the old stuff its just a bit of fun, but the do get really serious especially in the last album...and with the reintroduction of the guitar solos (thank you Rick Rubin), they actually sound half decent.

TheSubtleArts
06-01-2005, 04:22 PM
does anyone have the unreleased track "Flake" ? i have every other unreleased track by SOAD except this one. it was thier first recorded track and im dying to hear it.

PepsiMetal
06-01-2005, 04:49 PM
it depends, their lyrics and style have changed, if you look at the old stuff its just a bit of fun, but the do get really serious especially in the last album...and with the reintroduction of the guitar solos (thank you Rick Rubin), they actually sound half decent.

Their album is great. If I thought it was half decent, I probably wouldn't even listen to it. If you dont understand their lyrics, it doesn't mean it's just fun. It's really not fun lyrics. Most of soad's songs have a meaning.

Skit
06-03-2005, 04:35 AM
does anyone have the unreleased track "Flake" ? i have every other unreleased track by SOAD except this one. it was thier first recorded track and im dying to hear it.

Its not as great as its made out to be, The lyrics consist of "Flake! Flake! You mother****ing Flake!"
You wont find it anywhere though, I've only heard 30 seconds of it.

cos you know that i can
06-03-2005, 06:16 AM
I'm seeing SOAD in 7 hours! Wonder who's supporting...

*counts minutes*