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Deathcrush
04-24-2005, 11:06 AM
I reinstalled it and now when I record a guitar part, it starts off with a fade in automatically.

I am way to annoyed with everyone and everything right now to find out myself how to turn this off, can someone please help me out.

moaner
04-24-2005, 11:16 AM
have you managed (accidentally?) to set it to always start the envelope fading in?

Deathcrush
04-24-2005, 11:31 AM
No idea, everything is how it was the first time i opened it after installing. :confused:

moaner
04-24-2005, 12:12 PM
oh, thats icredibly odd.

i cannot think of any logical explanation.

airborne50caliber
04-24-2005, 12:24 PM
Bug.

Deathcrush
04-24-2005, 12:40 PM
I really need it sorted, can you give your explanation on it if it was that I had accidently changed whatever, please?

Moseph
04-24-2005, 12:44 PM
I've never heard of that one. Check out the users listserv (there's a link on the website in the "contact" section), and see if anyone else if having this issue.

Also make sure you're using the most recent version (v1.2.3)

Deathcrush
04-24-2005, 12:45 PM
Yeah, I am using the recent version. Let's keep in mind that there is still the possibility that I changed something without noticing and the problem can be helped by something really simple and silly.

Assuming I was wrong in saying it was like that when I installed it, how do I change it?

Joe
04-24-2005, 08:51 PM
I don't understand Audacity. It's nowhere near as good as cakewalk. I'm not sure how to have two tracks and then record again on the first track without it making a third track...

aguywithaguitar
04-24-2005, 09:32 PM
ive never even seen audacity but i would try to reinstall it, your problems bound to go away if you do.

Moseph
04-24-2005, 10:33 PM
I don't understand Audacity. It's nowhere near as good as cakewalk. I'm not sure how to have two tracks and then record again on the first track without it making a third track...

Audacity isn't designed to work that way.

Cakewalk uses a layering method to record takes onto a given track. Audacity has a simpler design that simply puts in a new track. This is more cumbersome for what you're describing, but it is also much easier on the programmers.

I say they can do what they want, b/c they're providing a genuinely good product free of charge (actually, more than that: it's open source, so if it bugs you that much, change it yourself).

airborne50caliber
04-25-2005, 12:37 AM
I don't understand Audacity. It's nowhere near as good as cakewalk. I'm not sure how to have two tracks and then record again on the first track without it making a third track...

audacity is free... it doesen't try to be as good as cakewalk

Deathcrush
04-25-2005, 11:12 AM
Okay so I reinstalled Audacity and the settings are still the same! Please, can someone explain how to turn this feature off?! :(

thelemon32
04-25-2005, 12:55 PM
this is just a thought i'm throwing out there...when audacity was reinstalled, couldn't that still mean some of the files from the bugged version could still be on the system and still be used by the reinstalled version? or maybe not

Deathcrush
04-25-2005, 12:56 PM
I was assuming that. I will try and hunt and destroy them. :)

I just noticed something - I was doing vocals, using the same input and everything, and it didn't have the same problem. Only guitars etc. :confused:

moaner
04-25-2005, 01:17 PM
I was assuming that. I will try and hunt and destroy them. :)

I just noticed something - I was doing vocals, using the same input and everything, and it didn't have the same problem. Only guitars etc. :confused:

might well be a line in problem or something like that

Deathcrush
04-25-2005, 01:29 PM
This is ****ing driving me insane. I took out the cable that I connect to the line in and it changed something - it seemed okay. So I recorded and when playing back I noticed it made the volume go down as if it was now fading out. It just generally screws around with the volume.

I don't see how it could be the cable, because the volume is constant, and perfectly fine when I play, it's the recording that screws it around.

ARGH!!!!!!!!

airborne50caliber
04-25-2005, 01:51 PM
something very strange in audacity.

Deathcrush
04-25-2005, 01:57 PM
I am extremely pissed off, I am ready to record and I really want this done while I have alot of will and TIME to do it.

I guess I should try some other freeware, any recommendations?

airborne50caliber
04-25-2005, 02:42 PM
jasmine?

Deathcrush
04-25-2005, 03:10 PM
I am actually still determined to get Audacity working as it is pissing me off so much!

I tried recording from CD from my hi-fi and it was fine with that, no funny sound leves or anything! It only seems to be my guitar!

Maybe if I explain how I am connecting it all up it may be easier to see the problem - guitar -> distortion pedal -> 8-track analogue (don't ask why I am using the computer) -> hi-fi -> computer mic input.

airborne50caliber
04-25-2005, 03:14 PM
why are you using the computer?

*s******s*

Deathcrush
04-25-2005, 03:24 PM
/kills you

Seriously, I am pissed off beyond belief, it was working fine like a couple of days ago.

That Jasmine program you recommended isn't free, or at least the ones I found weren't.

airborne50caliber
04-25-2005, 03:59 PM
****, can't remember why I thought it was.

Deathcrush
04-25-2005, 04:08 PM
I really want to know what is the deal here.

I have absolutely no idea how this could be happening.

moaner
04-25-2005, 04:13 PM
I really want to know what is the deal here.

I have absolutely no idea how this could be happening.

you're not alone.

clips please?

Deathcrush
04-25-2005, 04:23 PM
I recorded a clip but I can't really be bothered putting it up, sorry. :p

All it is is me playing one cord at a constant volume. You can hear the volume rising significantly, despite the fact that I was playing it at the same volume (when hearing myself play, it is fine, the actual recording is what screws it up).

:confused:

Deathcrush
04-25-2005, 04:26 PM
Odd! I just recorded some clean stuff and it was fine. Then it was crap when I tried distortion. Could it be about the volume I am putting INTO the computer?

Deathcrush
04-25-2005, 04:30 PM
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I THINK I MAY HAVE SORTED IT! W0000000000T!!!!!

moaner
04-25-2005, 04:44 PM
OMFG!!!!!

"its solved?"

http://www.brettish.com/images/sherlock.gif

Deathcrush
04-25-2005, 04:46 PM
Nope.

It was working perfectly for a minute. I was screwing around with sounds. Now the fade in is steeper, meaning it takes less time to achieve maximum volume. But it is still there.

What the **** is wrong? :mad:

Deathcrush
04-25-2005, 04:49 PM
Now it appears to be fine when I am set to clean, but as soon as distortion is on, it's just the same old awkwardness. :(

moaner
04-25-2005, 04:54 PM
Now it appears to be fine when I am set to clean, but as soon as distortion is on, it's just the same old awkwardness. :(

this means the problem is in the source, not the pc.

Deathcrush
04-25-2005, 04:57 PM
Nope, still sometimes screwing up when I use clean.

You know what? Back to analogue, screw all this technicaliologicallically age nu-method of recording. :mad:

Moseph
04-25-2005, 11:31 PM
Try removing various parts in your signal chain.

I'd start w/ the analog 8-track, mostly b/c A/D/A conversion can have a lot of issues if not done properly.

Also, try recording directly into the line-in: guitar to DI/pre-amp to line-in. See if it still does that.

I'm betting it's the pedal or the 8-track that's doing it. Particularly if there's a lot of A/D/A conversion being done in the chain b/c of them.

Deathcrush
04-26-2005, 04:20 AM
I have tried various pedals, and I think they may be the problem. I also tried messing with volume levels on pedals/8-track/hi-fi. The reason I am using such a crappy set-up is 'cause I currently have no other method of recording into my computer.

It is certainly not the program, which is scary because it will be harder to solve. :(

airborne50caliber
04-26-2005, 09:34 AM
I thougt back to analogue???

Deathcrush
04-26-2005, 09:47 AM
Yeah, well, I do actually need to use the computer for certain parts, it's so much easier to edit etc.

airborne50caliber
04-26-2005, 09:51 AM
pfffffff....

actually you're right

Moseph
04-26-2005, 08:19 PM
Yeah, well, I do actually need to use the computer for certain parts, it's so much easier to edit etc.

I know you said not to ask, but it might help to understand why you're recording into the analog 8-track in the first place.

Deathcrush
04-27-2005, 05:25 AM
Simply because I currently have no other means of getting the sound onto the hi-fi, so from there it can go into the PC. I could skip out the hi-fi part, but that would involve my room being rearanged.

Moseph
04-27-2005, 09:06 AM
Why not run the output of the computer into the hi-fi?

I'm assuming you're doing this so you can hear your computer. The effect should be the same, except there's less A/D/A conversion and other problems to go wrong.