Starcraft: Quite possibly the most well balanced RTS ever.

[Berner]

This has been a topic between my friends and I for a couple of years. We are all Starcraft players. We play quite often and are good with our specific races. I myself am a protoss kinda guy. My other two friends are zerg players.

When Starcraft is the topic of choice amongst us, we tend to talk about strategy. We have noticed one common thing. No matter what strategy you use, there is always a good counter attack. No matter what. It's at this point that we realize that there should never be a sequel to the game, because that will throw it all out of whack.

Go ahead and test it out. Name a strategy of yours and I will show you the exact counter with Protoss.

[FlyingPaul_83]

If you could grab a whole bunch of guys at once instead of just 12, i would like it a lot more, but overall it's cool.

Heres a strategy

I build a bunch of bunkers and misile turrets and tanks in that one mode where they can shoot far all around my base and build a lot of marines and attack by waves of 12 marines and 12 fire bats

[ATM]

I'm a Warcraft guy. I've never played Starcraft.

[Omega Red]

the best part about this game, is the fact than you can controle all 3 races at the same time.

you can have 600 vs 200 troops

[FlyingPaul_83]

I like starcraft better because it has 3 very diverse races, i suugest you pick up the battle chest set ($20 bucks i think) and try it out. If you like warcraft, you'll probably like starcraft

Edit: to arrestthisman

[Heavens Night]

Yes, it def is the most balanced RTS game ever.

[FlyingPaul_83]

Is your avatar from silent hill 2?

[Huber]

I still play Starcraft. I love it so **** much. My favorite game of all time.

[Huber]

If you could grab a whole bunch of guys at once instead of just 12, i would like it a lot more, but overall it's cool.

Heres a strategy

I build a bunch of bunkers and misile turrets and tanks in that one mode where they can shoot far all around my base and build a lot of marines and attack by waves of 12 marines and 12 fire bats

I love playing people like you, because I always win!

JK, but that sounds vulnerable to any kind of rush, or any kind of air mass.

[ArC]

I used to play it everyday. I was ranked pretty high on Battle.net on ladder games. Too bad I don't play anymore, everyone started cheating.

[Berner]

If you could grab a whole bunch of guys at once instead of just 12, i would like it a lot more, but overall it's cool.

Heres a strategy

I build a bunch of bunkers and misile turrets and tanks in that one mode where they can shoot far all around my base and build a lot of marines and attack by waves of 12 marines and 12 fire batsSinch. Use disruption web from my corsairs to block out tanks and bunkers. Send in Dark Templars to kill the turrets so I get rid of your ability to see them. Mop up the tanks and bunkers with dt's. Use reavers against your marines and firebats.

[FlyingPaul_83]

Sinch. Use disruption web from my corsairs to block out tanks and bunkers. Send in Dark Templars to kill the turrets so I get rid of your ability to see them. Mop up the tanks and bunkers with dt's. Use reavers against your marines and firebats.


you are good.


To sliptallica: I just made up that strategy. i know it sucks but i don't play online so i don't really have a strategy.

[Hammer_of_the_Gods]

I haven't played this game in a long time. You're right, it si one of the best RTS games. Althoguh I always likes Age of Empires: II better.

[Huber]

Sinch. Use disruption web from my corsairs to block out tanks and bunkers. Send in Dark Templars to kill the turrets so I get rid of your ability to see them. Mop up the tanks and bunkers with dt's. Use reavers against your marines and firebats.


Do you play Fastest Maps, and by any chance on the US West gateway?

[Berner]

Do you play Fastest Maps, and by any chance on the US West gateway?No my friend and I play on East in zero clutter maps because it is fun to rape the idiots that play them.

[Huber]

Zero Clutter is boring. It's the same thing every game. Someone is always going one of these:

Goliath/Tanks
Mutalisk
Lurkers
Some kind of rush
or max out land/air

Meh, but I don't play them that much anymore. Maybe people got creative.

[red_fox]

playing islands. I'm zerg and have a ton of scourge. I've told them to hold position and I keep my eye on them.

[Berner]

Zero Clutter is boring. It's the same thing every game. Someone is always going one of these:

Goliath/Tanks
Mutalisk
Lurkers
Some kind of rush
or max out land/air

Meh, but I don't play them that much anymore. Maybe people got creative.I use these units together

Terran:
-Goliaths
-Tanks (sieged for defense)
-Science vessels (for emp and irradiate)
-Nukes
-Ghost for lockdowns

Protoss:
-Dragoons
-Corsairs
-Dark Templars
-Possibly carriers if the guy turtles in a last stitch effort

Zerg:
-max Guards to start to break d
-zerglings (fully upgraded they can rip through anything
-queens for ensare
-Scoruge for air d

[red_fox]

and I've just shoved a zergling down your shirt

[Berner]

playing islands. I'm zerg and have a ton of scourge. I've told them to hold position and I keep my eye on them.
Arbiter Stasis field and recall onto your island.

[HNLzero]

hmm

Fleet of Guardians and Devourers (20+15).
or
Marines and Medics (40+30)

[Berner]

Fleet of Guardians and Devourers (20+15).Easy. About 20 corsairs will clean that up. Even though they only do 5 damage, they have a fast cool down rate.

Marines and Medics (40+30)8-10 Reavers. 110+15 damage + splash damage + longer range = a pile of bodies.

[charolastra]

Hehehe. I've always been a Dark Templar Rush guy...

But the zerg are the best at rushing, and terran is the best for long game...

[Berner]

Hehehe. I've always been a Dark Templar Rush guy...

But the zerg are the best at rushing, and terran is the best for long game...
Yeah that's true. I think that Terran is the hardest to play strategically.

[HNLzero]

Easy. About 20 corsairs will clean that up. Even though they only do 5 damage, they have a fast cool down rate.

8-10 Reavers. 110+15 damage + splash damage + longer range = a pile of bodies.
damn you...

:points knife at you:

[Berner]

damn you...

:points knife at you:
It proves my point that it is completely balanced. There are counters to my counters as well. The game is, dare I say it, perfect.

[HNLzero]

Start playing for money then like that Fata1ity guy did in UT.

[Berner]

Start playing for money then like that Fata1ity guy did in UT.Nah, I don't like comptetive games. I play it for the sheer love of it all.

[HNLzero]

Aw c'mon, you'll be set for life.

[Berner]

Aw c'mon, you'll be set for life.No means no pervert.

[Ramsey]

No means no pervert.
:lol:

[Captain Jack Sparrow]

I usually play as Zerg, and I like to do evo'd Zergling and Hydra rushes.

[Melvin42]

I love Starcraft.

My favorite moment has to be when I took out a huge fleet of Carriers with a couple of Battlecruisers and a Vessle. :D

It is really balanced. And fun. I think that's why after 8 years it's still heavily played.

[Jonny]

They are making a sequel to it, aren't they? Other than Starcraft Ghost.

I mean, I remember at the end of Brood War when the United Earth Directorate (that's what they're called, right?) gets destroyed on the way back to earth, Fenix is killed and Raynor vows revenge. Then there's that whole bonus level with the hybrids.

[Melvin42]

Ah... Fenix and Duke getting killed was the worse. I swear, I just sat there for a while with my Zerg because I didn't want to go through with it. :( Fenix rocked... and Duke... Duke was cool. "Ya'll need some good old fashioned discipline!"

I heard rumors too, but who knows? Ghost has been in development for like 6 years.

[Berner]

They are making a sequel to it, aren't they? Other than Starcraft Ghost.

I mean, I remember at the end of Brood War when the United Earth Directorate (that's what they're called, right?) gets destroyed on the way back to earth, Fenix is killed and Raynor vows revenge. Then there's that whole bonus level with the hybrids.I doubt they will. I pray they don't.

[Turkish]

Start playing for money then like that Fata1ity guy did in UT.


Dude fata1ity is such a panzy, I've played with him before at LAN parties. Whilst he's very good at UT, if he gets beat, then he starts pointing fingers and who he thinks are cheating. Not only that, he's not very good at other games. He got wiped on Painkiller at CPL and he sucks *** at CS and DoD.

EDIT: while that has nothing to do with the statement above, I felt the need to rant. I apologize.

[Melvin42]

Question: Is being good at UT something to be proud of? I whooped arse in UT (the first one). It's really just a carnage fest.

[Turkish]

I guess being UT isn't really something to be proud of, but the thousands and thousands of dollars you make from playing it can be.

[Melvin42]

Oh crap. And here I am going to school. Shucks.

Well, at least my kids won't have to answer to the question of "what does your dad do?" with "he pwns nubs w/grenade launchers!!lol!!111oneone"

[gitzplayer1021]

i love starcraft, i've been playing for a few years now... i still suck, but i still keep playing. my newest strategy is to use battlecruisers, wraiths, and then mop up with goliaths... probably not good, but it usually works.

[Xybex]

I love Starcraft but my bloody CD drive snapped the disc. Now I have to either re-buy it and end up with two broodwars discs, or find a working torrent for the ISO, which is harder than it sounds. If I hadn't bought it on budget I would be very unhappy.

[Jonny]

I doubt they will. I pray they don't.
How come?

Blizzard have yet to release a strategy game that is anything less than awesome. And I thought the single player storyline was one of the best storylines in any game ever.

I'd prefer if it wasn't 3D like Warcraft 3 though. That can complicate things sometimes.

[Jonny]

I love Starcraft but my bloody CD drive snapped the disc. Now I have to either re-buy it and end up with two broodwars discs, or find a working torrent for the ISO, which is harder than it sounds. If I hadn't bought it on budget I would be very unhappy.
You can get Starcraft on its own for like £5 here. And £10 with Brood War.

[Damrod]

Starcraft with the War3 Engine would be ace...

Never really got the hang of it in Network though, on of our friends is a LAN maniac. Not really that much fun to play against. Though I'm still upper class there. :)

Protoss = teh pwnzers :thumb:

An early Zealot rush often get's the opponent off guard. But if you wait too long to do it, you're sacked pretty fast

[Xybex]

You can get Starcraft on its own for like £5 here. And £10 with Brood War.

I haven't seen it on it's own, but I have seen the double pack. It just seems wasteful to have two brood war discs.
It is well worth ten quid, but i'm just tight fisted I suppose. I wonder if blizzard would replace it if I sent the broken disc to them? Do they even have a UK branch?

[Heavens Night]

Is your avatar from silent hill 2?
Yes it is. :D :naughty:

[Berner]

i love starcraft, i've been playing for a few years now... i still suck, but i still keep playing. my newest strategy is to use battlecruisers, wraiths, and then mop up with goliaths... probably not good, but it usually works.Sairs and scouts for the air, Dark Templars for the goliaths.

[ATM]

Dude fata1ity is such a panzy, I've played with him before at LAN parties. Whilst he's very good at UT, if he gets beat, then he starts pointing fingers and who he thinks are cheating. Not only that, he's not very good at other games. He got wiped on Painkiller at CPL and he sucks *** at CS and DoD.

EDIT: while that has nothing to do with the statement above, I felt the need to rant. I apologize.

I played against a guy that he stays with. It was a 2v2 with a friend of mine, and we got SPANKED.

[Turkish]

I played against a guy that he stays with. It was a 2v2 with a friend of mine, and we got SPANKED.


just telling you results from CPL, now I guess I should take back my comment before about CS and DoD. I don't know first hand how he plays at those games, but I have a friend whose team has won CAL-I at DoD 2 years in a row, and got invited to be CAL-Admin, said that Fata1ity isn't that great at DoD nor CS. I personally watched a match between some guy at a LAN I was at and Fata1ity, and they guy beat him. Fata1ity got all pissed off and accused the guy of cheating. Plus these guys had to pay him just to come out and lan with us, how ****ing lame is that?

[MattSharpIsCool]

I'm not very good at Starcraft but I like it. I dont usually play against human opponents, me and a few friends just play against the computer most of the time. I dont really care if its lame, its still fun.

I always play Terran....I like the Medics and Marines strat, I normally use that one. I also like Gols, and sometimes I'll be cheap and mass rush BC's, oh well. I've never really used Siege Tanks for anything other than base defense, but just recently I started using them in rushes, and they work pretty well.

I've tried using Vultures for rushes, since they're so fast, and they have a pretty decent attack strength. But the attack rate is too slow, and they have no defense, so they're pretty much worthless except for spider mines.

[Berner]

Vultures are useless except for spider mines.

[Retrovertigo]

No rush games with Zerg: make a huuuuuuuuuge defense of sunks with 3 layered outline of spores. Fully upped hydras easily makable due to the huge amount of hatcheries. Reavers? Pfft. Send in guardians. Carriers? Send in Scourges. :cool:

How about that, hanky panky?

[Luxor]

I'm almost unstoppable with Protoss. :cool:

90% of the time, you can just rape people with a recall on top of their minerals. They're out for the rest of the game. Unless, they have mega air D. But they usually don't.

A good strategy to stop that, though. Is to use vessels when you're terran. EMP shock them and arbs lose all their energy. Thus resulting in no energy to recall.

/starcraft nerd

[Berner]

No rush games with Zerg: make a huuuuuuuuuge defense of sunks with 3 layered outline of spores. Fully upped hydras easily makable due to the huge amount of hatcheries. Reavers? Pfft. Send in guardians. Carriers? Send in Scourges. :cool:

How about that, hanky panky?Reavers and dt's for your ground and arbiters and corsairs for your air. Stasis the scourge and rape the guards with the sairs. Then kill the hydras and spore colonies with reavers. Fly in sairs to kill the overlords and run in my dt's.

[griftadan]

Total War > Craft Games

but its not that well balanced. roman legions under the right command are ****ing relentless and **** near impossible to beat

[charolastra]

Vultures are useless except for spider mines.

that's true. instead of becoming "buy a vulture, get 3 mines." it becomes "buy 3 mines get a vulture"...

i absolutely love planting mines on my opponent's base's entrance.

[Astroboy]

I'm kind of mad at myself. I used to be a heavy starcraft "user" back in my middle school (racing home to play it :D ) but now i don't have the attention span to play a full game. I don't know what triggered it, but for some reason i can only play for like 20 minutes and then i'm just like **** this

[gitzplayer1021]

Sairs and scouts for the air, Dark Templars for the goliaths.
then i can bring in science vessels to EMP the corsairs and scouts, and to be able to see the dark templars, then i can bring out more BCs for the air and use siege tanks to wipe out the DTs froms a distance :D a counter for every counter ;)

[Retrovertigo]

Reavers and dt's for your ground and arbiters and corsairs for your air. Stasis the scourge and rape the guards with the sairs. Then kill the hydras and spore colonies with reavers. Fly in sairs to kill the overlords and run in my dt's.

:\ the only way I can counter that is with sending even more crap at you.

'tis Zerg for you.

[MrBurrito]

Vultures are useless except for spider mines.

vulture RAPE zealot rushes. unless the zealots have speed upgrade and vultures dont. they do have uses too. cheap scouts. rines are too slow to scout. a vulture can take a siege tank shot and not die. plus it can escape after the first. rines get pwned and its a waste of 50 mins.

also i like long games with zerg. ultras + hydras = death. ultras are too fast and have too much hp and armor. 24 fully upgraded ultras can take out a big base before they have time to kill them. cant forget the lurker drops at mins. plus u need overlords for detection.

[Gh0stInTheSh3ll]

I dunno if it's balanced... I mean Battle Cruisers vs. Zerg... BCs would totatly win as long as you're not a noob. What a great game though, I've spent plenty of my life with SC.

[clown_phobia]

400 zerglings.

Beat that.

[Damrod]

I dunno if it's balanced... I mean Battle Cruisers vs. Zerg... BCs would totatly win as long as you're not a noob. What a great game though, I've spent plenty of my life with SC.

If your opponent isn't a n00b, he would have rushed you to death way before you even gatherd a hand full of cruisers :thumb:

[gitzplayer1021]

400 zerglings.

Beat that.
400 zerglings? easy. if you're 'toss, use psionic storm a lot, if you're terran, use irradiate, and if you're zerg... um... i dunno, i never play as zerg, but there's definitely a good counter... yeah guardians, that's it.

[Jonny]

Use the underground spikey thingies.

[Damrod]

400 zerglings? easy. if you're 'toss, use psionic storm a lot, if you're terran, use irradiate, and if you're zerg... um... i dunno, i never play as zerg, but there's definitely a good counter... yeah guardians, that's it.

Basically everything that flys and can attack air to ground is literally "death from above" for zerglings :)

[Berner]

I dunno if it's balanced... I mean Battle Cruisers vs. Zerg... BCs would totatly win as long as you're not a noob. What a great game though, I've spent plenty of my life with SC.Wrong n00b. If a zerg player is attacked by that they simply use scourge and devourers. Dev's plague and scourge blow **** up.If your opponent isn't a n00b, he would have rushed you to death way before you even gatherd a hand full of cruisers :thumb:That's true as well.vulture RAPE zealot rushes. unless the zealots have speed upgrade and vultures dont. they do have uses too. cheap scouts. rines are too slow to scout. a vulture can take a siege tank shot and not die. plus it can escape after the first. rines get pwned and its a waste of 50 mins.

also i like long games with zerg. ultras + hydras = death. ultras are too fast and have too much hp and armor. 24 fully upgraded ultras can take out a big base before they have time to kill them. cant forget the lurker drops at mins. plus u need overlords for detection.If your terran and are against a protoss player using zealots you should be countering with firebats and medics. They have an awesome amount of splash damage. 400 zerglings? easy. if you're 'toss, use psionic storm a lot, if you're terran, use irradiate, and if you're zerg... um... i dunno, i never play as zerg, but there's definitely a good counter... yeah guardians, that's it.I'd use reavers my self. They can kill 8 to 10 zerglings in one shot if the zerglings are grouped up.
Basically everything that flys and can attack air to ground is literally "death from above" for zerglings :)That is true but once they get all their speed upgrades air attacks on them are somewhat useless since they are too fast for them.

[gitzplayer1021]

i definitely think the supply limit is what does it for the game. because if there was no supply limit, you would be able to have 100 of every type of unit. as fun as that would be, you need a limit so you can come up with a strategy. then you can work out what the mass of your attack will be, and then how your going to go about attacking, based on your opponents defense. the supply limit is unique, which means that you work out your own way of doing it. with only 200 supply, everyone's gonna be different. unless you decide to cheat or hack or whatever

[Blernster]

I still play Starcraft. I love it so **** much. My favorite game of all time.
whats your name, ill add you to me friends list

[Blernster]

Use the underground spikey thingies.
also known as lurkers

[The Half Pint]

I'm aether-storm on east, usually just sit in Cristal with my bot. I completely suck

[Blernster]

play use map setting, best thing about starcraft

[The Half Pint]

play use map setting, best thing about starcraft
They're alright, the best UMS games are on WC3 though...that's all I play it for.

[Blernster]

thats all i play star for

[Spectrum]

400 zerglings.

Beat that.
Protoss Base. Single Entry Point. 30 Plasma Cannons. 15 Reavers. 10 Carriers. 5 Archons (using Lightning Storm or somesuch). 20 Dragoons. Place the Air units ahead of the Entry Point (preliminary attacks, plus increased sight range for the Reavers) All units and buildings have full upgrades.

Terran Base. Single Entry Point. 8 Bunkers; Front Bunkers contain 2 Marines and 2 Firebats each, Back Bunkers contain 2 Marines and 2 Ghosts each. 15 Siege Tanks (Siege Mode). 10 Goliaths. 10 Wraiths. 5 Battle Cruisers. 3 Science Vessels (using Irradiate). Place the air units ahead of the Entry Point (preliminary attacks, plus increased sight range for the Tanks) All units and buildings have full upgrades. Hit all units in bunkers with one Stim Pack hit.

That oughta stop the afforementioned Zergling Rush. Maybe.

[Blernster]

or just poop in their mouths

[Berner]

That oughta stop the afforementioned Zergling Rush. Maybe.Not if those zerglings have their adrenal upgrades. They'll tear that **** out of that defense.

[Spectrum]

Darn... I guess that's true. And especially if they have all of their attack bonuses as well... I'd get killed.

Right now, I'm trying to play as the Zerg, and I suck against Protoss. I'm stuck on Zerg 6, I believe, in which you square off against Tassadar. I only tried it once, but I ran out of resources. I'm just no good at playing in a style that emphasizes "expendable" units... and no siege weapons. Terrans get Tanks, 'Toss get Reavers, and Zerg get... Queens.

Oh... wait. I forgot to use queens against them. I'll go try that.

[Spectrum]

or just poop in their mouths
Useless post. We're being (sort of) serious here.

[Spectrum]

Also, (almost) nobody would ever do a 400-zergling charge, for a couple fo reasons: one, it would take an arse-load of time to create, while your enemies could be attacking you, two, it would require you have no other units but Zerglings, and three, it's just impractical for a variety of reasons.

[Berner]

Also, (almost) nobody would ever do a 400-zergling charge, for a couple fo reasons: one, it would take an arse-load of time to create, while your enemies could be attacking you, two, it would require you have no other units but Zerglings, and three, it's just impractical for a variety of reasons.Agreed. Large amounts of Zerglings are for after you've plowed through the majority of the defense. You send them in and they tear the guys base down in a matter of minutes.

[Berner]

Here's something funny for everyone. My friend Thomas (sn thomas84) played a 3v3c game with these two clan members. They were being dickheads. Thomas, being the best Starcraft player I know and possibly one of the funniest people ever, decided to backstab them. After he easily killed them both, he played a 1v1 against one of them to prove that he didn't need to backstab to win. He again owned him. Enjoy watching these replays. Start with Thomas BS and then go to Bitch owned!. Watch his zerg playing in the second replay. He is the ultimate strategist with them.

http://s29.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1BYTYFT9P8LSS0U8OXFXR733PN

[Berner]

Download and discuss these replays people.

[thunderzstruck]

Its some file that my computer doesn't recognize.

[Bitter]

Is there a superior race in Starcraft?

[Jonny]

Is there a superior race in Starcraft?
Yes. The Xel' Naga ;)

[Nra4ever_17]

I play (or played) Protoss. I would build Photon Cannons for defense, while scouting with Observers and building up assorted ground troops: Zealots mostly, but with a good scattering of Dragoons, Reavers, and Dark Templar, along with shuttles for all of them and maybe four Corsairs. I hit their base from the side, shut down AA defense with Corsairs, and drop in troops. Zealots rampage around attacking whatever, and the Dragoons cover the Reavers. While the Zealots provide a distraction, I attempt to sneak the Dark Templar into their worker chain.

Pretty simple strategy, but effective enough.

[Berner]

Its some file that my computer doesn't recognize.
You need to have a newer version of starcraft/broodwar patch installed. Add them both into the replay folder in the starcraft folder.

My Computer --> program files --> Starcraft --> maps --> replays

[Damrod]

I play (or played) Protoss. I would build Photon Cannons for defense, while scouting with Observers and building up assorted ground troops: Zealots mostly, but with a good scattering of Dragoons, Reavers, and Dark Templar, along with shuttles for all of them and maybe four Corsairs. I hit their base from the side, shut down AA defense with Corsairs, and drop in troops. Zealots rampage around attacking whatever, and the Dragoons cover the Reavers. While the Zealots provide a distraction, I attempt to sneak the Dark Templar into their worker chain.

Pretty simple strategy, but effective enough.

Wouldnt that be easier and a bit more effective with an offensive recall by an Arbiter? :confused:

I mean, distracting the folks with an ground attack like you wrote, keeping a good strike force with dark Templar and a bit more support and distraction troops ready on one spot in your base. Sneak with an Arbiter into their base, above their main builind (lair, Command Center or Nexus) and make a recall on the gathered troops.

[gitzplayer1021]

Yes. The Xel' Naga ;)
something had better evolve from that like... hopefully starcarft to with a new race :D :D :D ... but i bet nothing of the sort is happening. starcraft 2 would definitely be one of the best things ever though. i wish something would happen there... :upset:

[Damrod]

something had better evolve from that like... hopefully starcarft to with a new race :D :D :D ... but i bet nothing of the sort is happening. starcraft 2 would definitely be one of the best things ever though. i wish something would happen there... :upset:

I hope too... I would be happy as hell with Starcraft/Brood War in Warcraft 3 graphics.

Hope Blizzard returns to the Starcraft Universe in the future

[(*The Noonward Race*)]

STARCRAFT pWnZ0rz!!!! It is amazingly balanced, It's like almost a decade old... holy crap

[(*The Noonward Race*)]

Why isnt there starcraft 2!

[gitzplayer1021]

Why isnt there starcraft 2!
because blizzard doesn't want to make us happy although they said something like Starcraft: Ghost being made as a segue to flow smoothly from Brood War to Starcraft 2 :naughty: ... although i don't know if that's true :upset:

[Damrod]

because blizzard doesn't want to make us happy although they said something like Starcraft: Ghost being made as a segue to flow smoothly from Brood War to Starcraft 2 :naughty: ... although i don't know if that's true :upset:

But Ghost won't be out for PC/Mac. It's planned as a console only game as far as I know

[Jonny]

I heard Ghost is unrelated Starcraft- it's a stand alone game set in the Starcraft universe. I just hope they start making SC2 when they finish it.

[Spectrum]

I would really love a Starcraft 2 myself... so many unresolved plotlines, such as "who the Hell wins?" and "how will the Zerg be defeated, if at all?"

[gitzplayer1021]

I would really love a Starcraft 2 myself... so many unresolved plotlines, such as "who the Hell wins?" and "how will the Zerg be defeated, if at all?"
exactly... -spoilers ahead if you never beat single player mode- the UED is defeated, Mengsk disappeared, as did Zeratul and Raynor. there's no way that Kerrigan can win, it's just not morally right! Plus, what the hell is up with the Xel'naga?? -end spoilers-

[Jonny]

exactly... -spoilers ahead if you never beat single player mode- the UED is defeated, Mengsk disappeared, as did Zeratul and Raynor. there's no way that Kerrigan can win, it's just not morally right! Plus, what the hell is up with the Xel'naga?? -end spoilers-
Yeah- and you forgot the Protoss-Zerg hybrids. ;)

[Damrod]

Yeah- and you forgot the Protoss-Zerg hybrids. ;)

That provides SOOOOOO much potential for coming games in the Starcraft Universe... I would not have remembered that mission if you hadn't mentioned it...

I discovered and played it again. It provides so much... I bet Duran is a Xel'Naga of any kind or something similar. :)

[Spectrum]

Oh Em Gee, I almost forgot the Protoss-Zerg hybrids! Good Lord, those were creepy to contemplate.

I seriously hope that Blizzard is planning a Starcraft 2, and I hope they realize that if they even announced rumors of a sequel, there would be millions upon millions of nerds, gamers, and strategy game fans, old and young, feverishly chomping at the bit.

Seriously, everyone in my house save my mother loves those games. That makes four of us, and I know a great number of people here who would love one, as well as most of my friends.

[donjuandrew]

my mom loves starcraft...

HANGING ONTO EVERY WORD FROM BLIZ!!! LOOKIN FOR THEM HIDDEN MESSAGES!! let your voice be heard email them!! THEY WILL LISTEN!!!

who doesnt like starcraft? i just gotta point out ONE THING THAT BUGS, i wouldnt have even noticed if my friend didnt point it out to me, totaly killed me for a week, how can a marine shoot up a cliff, and hit a burrowed zergling?

just had to point taht out... talkin bout sc 2 and all

[Jonny]

That provides SOOOOOO much potential for coming games in the Starcraft Universe... I would not have remembered that mission if you hadn't mentioned it...

I discovered and played it again. It provides so much... I bet Duran is a Xel'Naga of any kind or something similar. :)
I thought he'd just been zerg'd like Kerrigan.

[Damrod]

I thought he'd just been zerg'd like Kerrigan.

But in the 'Dark Origin' Bonus Level, he says that he is of a power that is far older than the Zerg or even the Protoss. And from all I know of the Starcraft Story, the oldest race in the SC universe are the Xel'Nage

[Jonny]

But in the 'Dark Origin' Bonus Level, he says that he is of a power that is far older than the Zerg or even the Protoss. And from all I know of the Starcraft Story, the oldest race in the SC universe are the Xel'Nage
Oh right. I forgot that bit. Thanks for reminding me.

Also just out of interest, which main characters are still alive?

[Damrod]

Oh right. I forgot that bit. Thanks for reminding me.

Also just out of interest, which main characters are still alive?

Alive
Artanis, the new Protoss Praetor
Mengsk, the Terran Emperor
Kerrigan
Zeratul, the Dark Templar
Duran, or whatever he calls himself

Dead
Raynor was killed by Kerrigan
Fenix as well
Tassadar died at the end of the original StarCraft
Aldaris was killed by Kerrigan
Practically all of the UED forces and commanders

Those are all I can think of right now

[Jonny]

Alive
Artanis, the new Protoss Praetor
Mengsk, the Terran Emperor
Kerrigan
Zeratul, the Dark Templar
Duran, or whatever he calls himself

Dead
Raynor was killed by Kerrigan
Fenix as well
Tassadar died at the end of the original StarCraft
Aldaris was killed by Kerrigan
Practically all of the UED forces and commanders

Those are all I can think of right now
Raynor is still alive isn't he? On that last mission as the zerg you have to kill Mengsk, Fenix and that UED guy. I'm pretty sure Raynor survives and vows to get revenge.

[Damrod]

Raynor is still alive isn't he? On that last mission as the zerg you have to kill Mengsk, Fenix and that UED guy. I'm pretty sure Raynor survives and vows to get revenge.

Silly me, I had a look in the ending credits of BroodWar:

"Zeratul and James Raynor went thir seperate ways, and were not heard of since their departure"

So, Raynor is alive, yes. I stand corrected :)

[Spectrum]

Zeratul was pretty cool, and Raynor was definitely one of my favorites. Also, I believe you have to kill Edmund Duke in the same level as Fenix, right?

[Jonny]

Zeratul was pretty cool, and Raynor was definitely one of my favorites. Also, I believe you have to kill Edmund Duke in the same level as Fenix, right?
Yeah I think so. And Zeratul and Raynor were my favourites. Along with Fenix.

[gitzplayer1021]

something has GOT to happen... they can't just leave us hanging at the end like that... it's just not right!! :upset: Zerg = scourge of the universe, and the bad guys are not allowed to win!!

[Garret]

Balanced? Ummm, no. Great game, until everybody started "massing": Just building huge groups of one unit as fast as you can. There's no strategy to 12 groups of Zerglings, and you cant argue that.

Still, loved the game.

I hope there's another, much improved one, but I also hope it isn't "Warcraft 3..... IN SPACE!"

[Spectrum]

There may not be a lot of strategy to 12 groups of Zerglings, but there sure is counter-strategy. Mostly involving awesome air units and Terran Siege Tanks in Siege Mode.

I also hope it's not "Warcraft 3... IN SPACE!". We expect more from Blizzard by now.

[Berner]

Balanced? Ummm, no. Great game, until everybody started "massing": Just building huge groups of one unit as fast as you can. There's no strategy to 12 groups of Zerglings, and you cant argue that.

Still, loved the game.

I hope there's another, much improved one, but I also hope it isn't "Warcraft 3..... IN SPACE!"Go play a real map n00b. **** the stupid money maps.

[gitzplayer1021]

/bump... don't let this thread die, SC is wonderful!!

[Spectrum]

I was just playing it again today. I'm on Zerg 8. Finally turning the tide of Protoss - I've taken out two of their bases and control about 2/3 of the map. Shouldn't be long now. Stupid Dark Templar. They die too quickly for them to be any good. Of coarse, they keep attacking my beacon, which is surrounded by 5 Hydralisks and 3 Ultralisks, with the appropriate detector in place. They don't stand a snowball's chance in Hell.

[gitzplayer1021]

is it possible to play the bonus level again? i don't have the option of picking it, and i really hope i don't have to play through all of the levels again just to play that one... what's it called again? :confused:

[Damrod]

is it possible to play the bonus level again? i don't have the option of picking it, and i really hope i don't have to play through all of the levels again just to play that one... what's it called again? :confused:

Dark Origin. No, you can not chose it, you have to play the mission before it (mission 9) again, and destroy the protoss base in under 25 minutes. Better save your game when the mission starts. Then you can play it as often as you want

[_Anubis_]

Dark Origin. No, you can not chose it, you have to play the mission before it (mission 9) again, and destroy the protoss base in under 25 minutes. Better save your game when the mission starts. Then you can play it as often as you want
I thought the mission before it is when you have to kill the Protoss Matriach.

[Damrod]

I thought the mission before it is when you have to kill the Protoss Matriach.

Not kill, but recover it from Zeratul. But as you are almost there, Zeratul kills the Matriarch, as he sees her rather dead than in the hands of the Zerg.