Challenge 86 - Replies

[Corupt2057]

I think this should be interesting given the words narrow meaning and how it can be used..

[Permanent Solution]

Ew. /not likely to enter

Anyways, Scarred4Life is Dqed as well.

[Corupt2057]

why did he not finish?

[Corupt2057]

yeah i see it now, honestly I wanted to see another one of his songs cause we kind write similar when I'm writing more for the flow and sound of a song more than the content

[pixiesfanyo]

You are a fucking idiot.

Why don't you pick the word Jerkeroffasauras.

[Disco Dragon]

Relax.

[Corupt2057]

Sorry man
It's a shame were going to miss out on your dildo song

[Corupt2057]

You are a fucking idiot.

Why don't you pick the word Jerkeroffasauras.

on a further note:
Just because you are not intellectual enough to understand a word of such narrow definition,
and have to resort to such shallow witicism to combat your lack of creation. You shouldn't resort to insults and words that don't even exist

[Rushfan2112]

cough...burn...cough

I'm not sure if I'll enter, given that last few placing I've had, I'll need to think awhile on this (I seem to get good thoughts, but dont follow through on them somehow..,)

[Corupt2057]

cough...burn...cough

I'm not sure if I'll enter, given that last few placing I've had, I'll need to think awhile on this (I seem to get good thoughts, but dont follow through on them somehow..,)
nah man don't back out you definitely have potential
like you said you just have problems following through with thoughts just take your time and think everything out before you finish it all up ;)
you'll be good to go

[RunAmokRampant]

Well you've got a whole week to enter and refine it. Just keep adding and refining till the due date, thats how I do it; a working progress

[Scarred4Life]

wait, why am i DQ'd? I put in my votes, they were to the left of the names. I just couldnt finish my crits. Geeezus

[Permanent Solution]

Whoa...I could have sworn those numbers weren't there when I counted?

[Scarred4Life]

Its no problem, so...er...Im not DQ'd right?

[Scarred4Life]

Its no problem, so...er...Im not DQ'd right?

[Permanent Solution]

Eh...that triple post might do you in :p

I don't think it changes the results though, so it's fine.

[Corupt2057]

my bad I didn't see them either...
anyways this is good
cause I didn't want you DQ'ed

[DFelon204409]

on a further note:
Just because you are not intellectual enough to understand a word of such narrow definition,
and have to resort to such shallow witicism to combat your lack of creation. You shouldn't resort to insults and words that don't even exist

As an initial correction, you can't really quantify "intellectual." You should have said "intelligent." Maybe you shouldn't have tried to use a word of such narrow definition that you don't understand.

Secondly, "lack of creation?" Last time I checked you writing sucks. It boggles my mind that you have won any challenges at all. I guess it doesn't take much to win a challenge these days. Back in the day there could be 10+ really great lyrics in one challenge alone where these days there's hardly 1-2 in a 9 person challenge. I don't think you're in a position to criticize anybody when your writing and "creation" is mediocre at best.

[Corupt2057]

When someone insults me just because I chose to use a non common word in a lyrical 'challenge' I find it childish.
Yeah, the wording I used was out of context but I wasn't really thinking clearly because I was pissed.
For you, being a mod you shouldn't take sides in an arguement that is as retarded as it is but if you want to goto the extent of insulting my work because you think you are Gods gift of writing talent appointed by your own self-conceit.. well then you can screw off because I could give a crap less about being a part of anything you are affiliated with.

[6945]

Oh...wanderlust is a fine challenge word. Not everyone has to like it. The multitude of variety is what feeds this form. You know if you looked at it this way, Dfelon doesnt like my topic word, I must be doing something right! Then he wont piss you off. Thats the only way I can coexist with Sdagger.

ps: you just know it's gonna be a great challenge when the line "a girls chest" pops up in an entry.

[Corupt2057]

Oh...wanderlust is a fine challenge word. Not everyone has to like it. The multitude of variety is what feeds this form. You know if you looked at it this way, Dfelon doesnt like my topic word, I must be doing something right! Then he wont piss you off. Thats the only way I can coexist with Sdagger.

ps: you just know it's gonna be a great challenge when the line "a girls chest" pops up in an entry.
glad you feel that way I can learn to coexist but it has to run both ways.

by the way I'm liking your entry so far
it starts off very well like a stick of dynamite

[DFelon204409]

When someone insults me just because I chose to use a non common word in a lyrical 'challenge' I find it childish.
Yeah, the wording I used was out of context but I wasn't really thinking clearly because I was pissed.
For you, being a mod you shouldn't take sides in an arguement that is as retarded as it is but if you want to goto the extent of insulting my work because you think you are Gods gift of writing talent appointed by your own self-conceit.. well then you can screw off because I could give a crap less about being a part of anything you are affiliated with.

Firstly, you got "insulted" over the internet and you're taking offense to it? Seems like your problem. Everybody makes fun of the challenge word. Get used to it.

Secondly, mods can choose whatever side of an argument they want. I think you're wrong. I sure as hell won't ban you for disagreeing with me. That's stupid and immoral. I can voice my opinion just like everybody else on this forum. Being a mod doesn't turn me into this aloof observer. I remain an active member.

Thirdly, turning a criticism of your writing into ad hominem against me is just dumb. I say your writing sucks and you turn around and complain that I'm just being arrogant. Wow, you really defended you writing there. I think you suck at writing, so what. Get over it or maintain. Don't just try to get back.

[Corupt2057]

Firstly, you got "insulted" over the internet and you're taking offense to it? Seems like your problem. Everybody makes fun of the challenge word. Get used to it.

Secondly, mods can choose whatever side of an argument they want. I think you're wrong. I sure as hell won't ban you for disagreeing with me. That's stupid and immoral. I can voice my opinion just like everybody else on this forum. Being a mod doesn't turn me into this aloof observer. I remain an active member.

Thirdly, turning a criticism of your writing into ad hominem against me is just dumb. I say your writing sucks and you turn around and complain that I'm just being arrogant. Wow, you really defended you writing there. I think you suck at writing, so what. Get over it or maintain. Don't just try to get back.

Then I under estimated your maturity for that I apologize..

I'll admit I 'didn't' think your last piece sucked
I think your are a good writer, just nothing with it touched my taste

However in your opinion mine just sucks, big jumbling of words with no meaning..
yet I get alot of praising reviews in my submissions to these forums.
But you are entitled to your own opinion I just took offense to it by the way you proposed it and without any enlightenment as to why you think that way.

anyways peace out

[Necroses-bass]

Oh...wanderlust is a fine challenge word. Not everyone has to like it. The multitude of variety is what feeds this form. You know if you looked at it this way, Dfelon doesnt like my topic word, I must be doing something right! Then he wont piss you off. Thats the only way I can coexist with Sdagger.

ps: you just know it's gonna be a great challenge when the line "a girls chest" pops up in an entry.

yeh, whatever happened to sdagger?

[Permanent Solution]

yeh, whatever happened to sdagger?
He quit modding but he's still on mx a lot.

[Corupt2057]

He quit modding but he's still on mx a lot.
yeah I saw him on today

[Mr. Hankie]

Oh...wanderlust is a fine challenge word. Not everyone has to like it. The multitude of variety is what feeds this form. You know if you looked at it this way, Dfelon doesnt like my topic word, I must be doing something right! Then he wont piss you off. Thats the only way I can coexist with Sdagger.

ps: you just know it's gonna be a great challenge when the line "a girls chest" pops up in an entry.


Well I'm 15, what do you expect. :naughty:

[Scarred4Life]

:rolleyes: Anyways. DFelon, just chill man. There's no need to insult corupt. I didnt really think that his lyrics were too hot myself. (Dont take it personally or harshly, I just didnt dig it) But thats no reason to say that he didnt deserve to win. If the majority of people felt hat he did, well, I guess he did deserve to win right?

SD doest mod anymore. I cant blame him really, its overrated.

[DFelon204409]

Scarred, check out who voted this forum. The veteran of the challenges was Disco Dragon. DISCO DRAGON. Everybody was focusing on flow and how well the lyrics would work as a song and not if they're great lyrics or not. I sense because people like pixies and SDagger listen to music that is more alternative, they've experienced how songs that don't appear to flow, really can but in a more complex way, like with CTTS. This last challenge was just very n00bish so the voting reflected it. I don't think he deserved to win a challenge with that song. It just wasn't up to the caliber of other ones that have beaten other amazing lyrics in more massive and brutal challenges.

Ya corupt, truce. I've been here since 2001. Never been banned. I understand the line between just being a dick, which I am, and being immoral or bad.

[Disco Dragon]

Hey, what's wrong with me being the vet for once? I've been around these parts long enough to get that title. So go suck, eat, or chew on a dick.

Anyways, I didn't vote for corupt's song (or anyone else's) based around flow. I went mostly by word choice, content, creativity, and overall impact. That's how I've always voted, and probably how I always will.

And on another note, I like being able to watch an argument from the outside for once, instead of being the one involved in it. Kind of different. Kind of nice.

[Scarred4Life]

I know DFelon, and I do understand. But alas, times are not what they were and there arent too many vets around nowadays. On that note, I find it amusing that DD is considered a vet (not to say that he isnt, becuase he is). I mean, I remember the first challenge he was in. The one right before his Jesus song. :p

[Disco Dragon]

Why is it so hard to believe that I'm a vet??

Tehehe, I do remember my hardcore Jesus song though. I still write songs like that every now and then.....only better (I hope). I can't even remember the first challenge I was in. But I do remember that I won a challenge at some point.......god that was a long time ago.

[Corupt2057]

I like alternative music and I love the lyrics, but it just has to interest me.
Yeah truce
I'd more than likely continue too argue this subject however I'm a happy drunk :chug:
by the way you don't have to worry about any personal prejudice from me I like making friends with people after fights for some reason that's how I've made my best ones lol
'friends on the internet' yeah.. but you know what I mean hopefully ;)

[Corupt2057]

DD,
I like the change in your song now that you submitted it to this.
That line is alot better than the one you had before and compliments the mood so well

[Permanent Solution]

Scarred, check out who voted this forum. The veteran of the challenges was Disco Dragon. DISCO DRAGON. Everybody was focusing on flow and how well the lyrics would work as a song and not if they're great lyrics or not. I sense because people like pixies and SDagger listen to music that is more alternative, they've experienced how songs that don't appear to flow, really can but in a more complex way, like with CTTS. This last challenge was just very n00bish so the voting reflected it. I don't think he deserved to win a challenge with that song. It just wasn't up to the caliber of other ones that have beaten other amazing lyrics in more massive and brutal challenges.

Ya corupt, truce. I've been here since 2001. Never been banned. I understand the line between just being a dick, which I am, and being immoral or bad.
Man, your musical elitism is so overbearing it's sickening. I listen to alot of the music you listen to, and a lot that you don't, and of course you listen to a lot that I don't. Your taste is not superior to anyone else's. CTTS do not write the best lyrics of all time. It's all subjective, so understand people have different opinions and move on.

I have included flow in my ratings sice I got here and will always do so because it's an important part of the music for me. Scarred and I were the ones who voted Corrupt the lowest, so don't act like you're out alone in a field. The voting was pretty even among many pieces, but about half the people loved Corrupt's piece so it won. No vets voted...cry a river, it happened and it's not going to change. I don't think any of the entries were stellar really, and I have seen better, but I'm not bitching about it because it happens. I didn't like Corrupt's piece and I voted accordingly, some people disagreed and he won. Good on him, his writing appeals to other people and I can appreciate that. You should work on that whole appreciating other people's opinions.

[Disco Dragon]

No vets voted...cry a river, it happened and it's not going to change.

Heh Hehm. One vet DID vote in this challenge. How can no one see that????

[Permanent Solution]

Heh Hehm. One vet DID vote in this challenge. How can no one see that????
I was addressing his complaint, not the fact of the matter.

[RunAmokRampant]

whats so good about being a "vet" anyway? Most of the time all I hear is them whinging about how good the forums used to be and now they suck. Its like hearing an old man whinging about the "back in my day" bull****.

[k.s.e.]

i will fuck you all with my lyrical genius.. so you all can shut up now.

[k.s.e.]

why is everyone in the lyrical photo album so hairy?

[Permanent Solution]

why is everyone in the lyrical photo album so hairy?
It's the "artist look"

[ATC]

You're just jealous cos marines cant grow their hair and have ..uh..Drill..uh sergeants to cope with.

:)

[Corupt2057]

You're just jealous cos marines cant grow their hair and have ..uh..Drill..uh sergeants to cope with.

:)
bah that an insult because that's the Army
Marines are trained by Drill Instructors!

[A_Perfect_Sonnet]

Wait, wasn't I the vet on that one?

[Permanent Solution]

Wait, wasn't I the vet on that one?
Or maybe Scarred4Life?

[A_Perfect_Sonnet]

Okay whatever.

[Bigbadbob]

whats so good about being a "vet" anyway? Most of the time all I hear is them whinging about how good the forums used to be and now they suck. Its like hearing an old man whinging about the "back in my day" bull****.


So true .... Like the time I caught the ferry over to Shelbyville. I needed a new heel for my shoe. So, I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days nickels had pictures of bumblebees on them. 'Give me five bees for a quarter', you'd say. Now, where were we? Oh, yeah...the important thing was that I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. They didn't have white onions because of the war; the only thing you could get was those big yellow ones

[Necroses-bass]

Who gives a f.uck about vets, ok they might be more respected but their opinion shouldn't be more important. i've been performing music ranging from classical to death metal for a longer time than most of you, i have worked with large bands such as Within Temptation, Sikth and Skindred and i am Hampshire musician of the year for 3 years running and i am concidered to be one of Hampshires TOP bassists. I've got a grade 8 certificate in bass, cello, piano, grade 6 for guitar and percussion i have a grade 5 music theory certificate, a GCSE in Music, Music technology and performing arts. My first big performance was when i was eight and have 20 sold out gigs on my name since i was 16, SO F.UCKING WHAT THAT DOESN'T MAKE ME MORE IMPORTANT THAN ANYONE ELSE.
I think corupt's entry was very good, it had a lot of meaning to it, he deserved winning the challenge. Bloody conservatives piss me off, THINGS ARE NOT LIKE THE OLD DAYS so live with it.

[Permanent Solution]

I'm as liberal as you get and I didn't like Corrupt's piece. I think the best days were when we lived in caves, those were the days.

Anyways, that list of achievements has nothing to do with knowledge of lyrics, so it really is irrelevant in this case. DFelon is respected because he is very knowledgeable. Vets usually are more knowledgeable because if you hang out here long enough you'd have to be a moron not to learn. People like Blockhead prove it is possible though. You can have all the experience you do and still learn tons from vets because they earn that status due to their knowledge and from being around a long time. I respect most people who are referred to as vets because they usually earn that status. At the same time it can cause an elitism, but there are reasons they are vets, and it's not just join date.

[Necroses-bass]

i fully agree mate even vets learn a lot, and i've got a s'hitload to learn (i'm going to see Brian May soon for some lessons really excited), but lyrics is something you can't really critisize on except for when you actually know what the authors aim is.

What i was saying was that it doesn't matter how good someone is, their opinion is just as important as someone who is not as good.
in the argument above it seems to be that everyone is inferior to the 'vets' maybe in skill but theyr opinion couints just as much as like me or Mr. Hankie.
Its the idea of democracy

[6945]

Yea, interesting point zepp...some ppl just look at the join date and say pfff n00b and automatically give no respect. I'm as vet as it gets in this forum but not under this name. But I tell you what, the attitude in the crits I got, using the same writing, sure changed when I post under 6945 instead of XXXXX.

[Permanent Solution]

Yea, interesting point zepp...some ppl just look at the join date and say pfff n00b and automatically give no respect. I'm as vet as it gets in this forum but not under this name. But I tell you what, the attitude in the crits I got, using the same writing, sure changed when I post under 6945 instead of XXXXX.
Hmm...well that's what it is to me at least, I do realize some people are not mature enough to employ that, but I believe I do, and I have no problem with a n00b winning.

Necroses: I can only agree with you to an extent. Many n00bs wouldn't know good writing if it slapped them in the face. Read half the comments in S&L proper if you disagree. Usually the Vets are more immune to this because the knowledge of what makes it good is there. Liking writing is subjective, but this contest is about good writing as well as what you like, and it's important to blend the two in your critique. I also have to disagree when you say you can't critique lyrics without knowing the author's aim. That to me is entirely false. There are lyrical attributes which you can judge without knowing the author's aim. I also won't lie, I respect the views of the vets more than of the n00bs here. It's a matter of experience really. They have seen more and I believe they have a better grasp of what makes good writing. You can disagree but I do value high rankings by vets more than I do by n00bs.

[DFelon204409]

Man, your musical elitism is so overbearing it's sickening. I listen to alot of the music you listen to, and a lot that you don't, and of course you listen to a lot that I don't. Your taste is not superior to anyone else's. CTTS do not write the best lyrics of all time. It's all subjective, so understand people have different opinions and move on.

I have included flow in my ratings sice I got here and will always do so because it's an important part of the music for me. Scarred and I were the ones who voted Corrupt the lowest, so don't act like you're out alone in a field. The voting was pretty even among many pieces, but about half the people loved Corrupt's piece so it won. No vets voted...cry a river, it happened and it's not going to change. I don't think any of the entries were stellar really, and I have seen better, but I'm not bitching about it because it happens. I didn't like Corrupt's piece and I voted accordingly, some people disagreed and he won. Good on him, his writing appeals to other people and I can appreciate that. You should work on that whole appreciating other people's opinions.

CTTS don't have the best lyrics of all time. They are merely an example of how the text by itself doesn't immediately correlate to a good flow but when it comes out in the song it sounds just right.

[DFelon204409]

Who gives a f.uck about vets, ok they might be more respected but their opinion shouldn't be more important. i've been performing music ranging from classical to death metal for a longer time than most of you, i have worked with large bands such as Within Temptation, Sikth and Skindred and i am Hampshire musician of the year for 3 years running and i am concidered to be one of Hampshires TOP bassists. I've got a grade 8 certificate in bass, cello, piano, grade 6 for guitar and percussion i have a grade 5 music theory certificate, a GCSE in Music, Music technology and performing arts. My first big performance was when i was eight and have 20 sold out gigs on my name since i was 16, SO F.UCKING WHAT THAT DOESN'T MAKE ME MORE IMPORTANT THAN ANYONE ELSE.
I think corupt's entry was very good, it had a lot of meaning to it, he deserved winning the challenge. Bloody conservatives piss me off, THINGS ARE NOT LIKE THE OLD DAYS so live with it.

See, you're in a lyrical challenge section. I've won this thing many times, I'm currently taking poetry class from a revered American poet, and I'm published in a poetry anthology. This speaks to why my opinion is respected here. It's not just because I've been here since 2001.

[Necroses-bass]

See, you're in a lyrical challenge section. I've won this thing many times, I'm currently taking poetry class from a revered American poet, and I'm published in a poetry anthology. This speaks to why my opinion is respected here. It's not just because I've been here since 2001.
If you're opinion counts more, then at least justify it
I'm not denying skill at all, i really enjoyed reading you work but i just got the impression that what the more recent members (like me) thought of something didn't count because the vets said something else.
but i think you'll find that at one point you might actually learn something of a 'noob' its in everyones riht to express theyr opinion and they should be getting lair because of that.
I'm here to learn and really wouldn't even think of giving you advice on the subject of poetry, but looking at the work of a noob or someone without the experience you got might actually slightly change the way you look at things.

i'm talking about simple things like i found out not that long ago that leaving the lead in a guitar with humbuckers drains the batteries. Its a bit of an off topic example but it should do.

also have to disagree when you say you can't critique lyrics without knowing the author's aim. That to me is entirely false
do the words 'modern art' tell u anything, it kind of involves bending the rules and create something new

[Rushfan2112]

*gets bowl of popcorn, sits infront of computer*

...Ah internet fights, I love watching these...














and your thinking, **** noob, aren't you!

[Permanent Solution]

do the words 'modern art' tell u anything, it kind of involves bending the rules and create something new
Most modern art is terrible and only called art because people act pretentious and give it meanings that aren't even there.

[Disco Dragon]

Wow, you guys are really taking this whole veterans vs. new people thing to an extreme. I was just joshin' with you when I talked about wanting to be recognized as a vet. I could honestly care less about a title.

And what's the deal with rambling on about all of your achievements? I guess I just don't get why being ranked well as a guitarist/percussionist or being published in a poetry anthology is all that important. Soooo........good for you guys?

But in all honesty, there are people I respect on this forum more than others. Is it because they're vets? Perhaps. Or it could be that they are great writers, and that's what really counts anyways. And generally speaking, the vets are usually more talented than the new people. It's just how it goes. People get better the longer they write. Some of the new people are fantastic writers and might be better than a lot of the vets, but that's a rare case.

So I guess what I'm trying to say is this: Don't fuck a virgin just to say you broke a hymen..........

[Mr. Hankie]

I can actually see no point to the back and forth arguing going on. To be honest, who gives a sh it. And just out of curiosity, why the name vet? I can think of about 20 names/titles to give an expierenced song writer/poet that sound cooler than that.

[ATC]

but i think you'll find that at one point you might actually learn something of a 'noob' its in everyones riht to express theyr opinion and they should be getting laid because of that.

No, you cannot get laid on the interweb. :p

I'm here to learn and really wouldn't even think of giving you advice on the subject of poetry, but looking at the work of a noob or someone without the experience you got might actually slightly change the way you look at things.


UBC believes that lyrics and libretto are poetry if there is no music associated with it. When you crit here, its, for the most part, critting poetry.
You're right though. Its better if you look at the pieces as separate from the writer. Most pieces will reflect the experience but still.
Personally, I'd value the opinions of someone who I think writes well than someone who's starting out but that isnt really a statement on whose opinion is more valid.
You wont be considered a noob after awhile and then you can talk about how good it was back in the day. Its all good.

[Necroses-bass]

the other thing that pisses me off is that a lot of people tend to forget that they had to start at some point

[pixiesfanyo]

I agree with DD.

Super_D has not been here for a long time, but she is considered a vet because she is a good writer and also knows good writing.

Necroses-bass, being in Cradle of Filth PT. 2 does not make you an intelligent person. K?

[Corupt2057]

See, you're in a lyrical challenge section. I've won this thing many times, I'm currently taking poetry class from a revered American poet, and I'm published in a poetry anthology. This speaks to why my opinion is respected here. It's not just because I've been here since 2001.
I've had 4 poems put on tracks in "Sound of Poetry" and 3 Editor's Choice Awards and have had nearly all my poems published in anthology's all from poetry.com
yet my writing sucks obviously shows how much you know
anyways I don't wanna start an argument agian I just wanted to throw in my references since you were bragging about yours :thumb:

[Corupt2057]

But in all honesty, there are people I respect on this forum more than others. Is it because they're vets? Perhaps. Or it could be that they are great writers, and that's what really counts anyways. And generally speaking, the vets are usually more talented than the new people. It's just how it goes. People get better the longer they write. Some of the new people are fantastic writers and might be better than a lot of the vets, but that's a rare case.

I totally agree with this

[DFelon204409]

I've had 4 poems put on tracks in "Sound of Poetry" and 3 Editor's Choice Awards and have had nearly all my poems published in anthology's all from poetry.com
yet my writing sucks obviously shows how much you know
anyways I don't wanna start an argument agian I just wanted to throw in my references since you were bragging about yours :thumb:

Hey. poetry.com sucks. I've been letting them use my stuff for years. Have you read the other poems that get published? I got one published there and when I read the book I was embarassed about it. I'm proud of getting published in a legit literary journal for Northern California. Not some crap moneymaking strategy from poetry.com.

[Bigbadbob]

I'm currently taking poetry class from a revered American poet, .

Now you're talking. I'd be interested in hearing about what you've learned...without having to help with your tuition of course!

[Disco Dragon]

Just out of curiousity, who is this revered American poet you're taking classes from?

[Rushfan2112]

new subject, I'm kinda confused at something. SOmeone last contest reminded me that you can't put insong notes (like instramental, etc) but then some people I have seen use the word chorus, etc.

Exactly what can and can you not put in a song...

thanks...

[Bigbadbob]

The basic idea of the challege is to have the lyrics stand on their own merit. Some ppl use to put tabs, chords & other musical discriptions. There's never been a problem with labeling verses or chorus but we've always tried to stay away from discriptive musical references.

[Corupt2057]

I just think it's kinda funny you had to be tutored to get punblished lol
[/sarcasm]
ok you know that was funny from my position ;)
nah but good for you taking classes that would definitely be a great opportunity broadening your writing history and a learning new techniques and such :thumb:

[Scarred4Life]

new subject, I'm kinda confused at something. SOmeone last contest reminded me that you can't put insong notes (like instramental, etc) but then some people I have seen use the word chorus, etc.

Exactly what can and can you not put in a song...

thanks...

Yeah listen to BBB man, he knows his stuff.

In general if something is meant to be sung differently or spoken or something like that, try putting that alternate section in italics. It sort of neatens it up and gives a clear impression that that section is meant to be ifferent.

[Necroses-bass]

new subject, I'm kinda confused at something. SOmeone last contest reminded me that you can't put insong notes (like instramental, etc) but then some people I have seen use the word chorus, etc.

Exactly what can and can you not put in a song...

thanks...

Chorus applies to the lyrics as well, stuff like guitar solo and interlude do not.

Pixies, what did u mean with Being Cradle of Filth Pt2?

[Necroses-bass]

Just a question, Am i actuallt the only european on this forum?

[jurialmunkey]

Dirty fucking Vets..xxx Think they're so good..xxx I'll show them..xxx

Oh yeah. On the topic of "oooohhhh look at me, I'm so wonderfull but I'm being modest, so really I'm even more amazingly wonderfully amazingly wonderfull at lyrics" and qualifications and all that - I am a master of karate, kung fu and drunken streetfighting as well as a skilled house of cards creator, and I've been playing bass and guitar ever since I've been available for embryonic stem cell research so I must be the greatest lyricist ever.

Oh yeah.

And fuck those Vets, fuck those dirty fucking vets. Stupid animal lovers... why don't you go and learn to be a real doctor instead of a pachyderm **** lover.

[super deluxe]

Oh yeah. On the topic of "oooohhhh look at me, I'm so wonderfull but I'm being modest, so really I'm even more amazingly wonderfully amazingly wonderfull at lyrics" and qualifications and all that - I am a master of karate, kung fu and drunken streetfighting as well as a skilled house of cards creator, and I've been playing bass and guitar ever since I've been available for embryonic stem cell research so I must be the greatest lyricist ever.


You're just jealous that I was an immaculate conception.

[jurialmunkey]

You're just jealous that I was an immaculate conception.

Actually, I was more envious over your relations with the pope shortly after his death.

[super deluxe]

Actually, I was more envious over your relations with the pope shortly after his death.

Yeah, you got stuck with the sloppy seconds.

[Corupt2057]

drunken streetfighting

lol we have something in common :thumb:
:chug:

[Permanent Solution]

Dirty fucking Vets..xxx Think they're so good..xxx I'll show them..xxx

Oh yeah. On the topic of "oooohhhh look at me, I'm so wonderfull but I'm being modest, so really I'm even more amazingly wonderfully amazingly wonderfull at lyrics" and qualifications and all that - I am a master of karate, kung fu and drunken streetfighting as well as a skilled house of cards creator, and I've been playing bass and guitar ever since I've been available for embryonic stem cell research so I must be the greatest lyricist ever.

Oh yeah.

And fuck those Vets, fuck those dirty fucking vets. Stupid animal lovers... why don't you go and learn to be a real doctor instead of a pachyderm **** lover.
Oddly enough I consider you a vet :p

(P.S. DO you really have fourth degree black belts in karate and kung fu?)

[jurialmunkey]

(P.S. DO you really have fourth degree black belts in karate and kung fu?)

No. :(

I did do karate when I was six though.






Twice.

[super deluxe]

No. :(

I did do karate when I was six though.






Twice.

I did that, too! Only I quit when I found out there wasn't a pink belt.

[Permanent Solution]

No. :(

I did do karate when I was six though.

Twice.
Oh. Shoot I actually would have been really impressed since the youngest master we had at my school was something like 18 and you aren't that much older right?

[jurialmunkey]

I did that, too! Only I quit when I found out there wasn't a pink belt.

Yeah, I quit when I found out that I wasn't actually allowed to wear any colour belt I liked. Whats the point in doing karate if you can't say that you have a black belt?! :eek: :rolleyes:


Oh. Shoot I actually would have been really impressed since the youngest master we had at my school was something like 18 and you aren't that much older right?

I don't know, I'm pretty old... I mean, I'm the oldest I've ever been right now.

[Permanent Solution]

Yeah, I quit when I found out that I wasn't actually allowed to wear any colour belt I liked. Whats the point in doing karate if you can't say that you have a black belt?! :eek: :rolleyes:

I don't know, I'm pretty old... I mean, I'm the oldest I've ever been right now.
Doing it until you can say that :p (is one)

That's true...
...

[jurialmunkey]

Doing it until you can say that :p (is one)
...

That's not a point for doing karate.


That's boring.



Anyway... I want to do ninjitsu so I can be a ninja, not karate to be a carrot. I just want to run up walls and fly and turn invisible and stuff... I've got plenty of black belts at home... and they're made of real leather, not that cotton crap.

[Permanent Solution]

That's not a point for doing karate.

That's boring.

Anyway... I want to do ninjitsu so I can be a ninja, not karate to be a carrot. I just want to run up walls and fly and turn invisible and stuff... I've got plenty of black belts at home... and they're made of real leather, not that cotton crap.
:lol: Anyways I still do it because I love it, though I don't study karate per se, but a variety of things ranging from old Samurai swordsmanship to Pankration. I do like my lame cotton black belt though :)

[jurialmunkey]

Well lahdeedahda.. Aren't you just so great..


please don't beat me up... I haven't learnt how to fly away yet

[Permanent Solution]

*cuts you into little squares and eats you for dinner*

Sorry, I'm a hungry and poor college kid :-/

[pixiesfanyo]

Jurial. I need to talk to you about going to school in Australia.

/lolz serious

[super deluxe]

Jurial. I need to talk to you about going to school in Australia.

/lolz serious

How will you get along? They don't speak potty-mouth.


p.s. Sup, pixies?

[k.s.e.]

corupt... were you the motor t POG?

[jurialmunkey]

Jurial. I need to talk to you about going to school in Australia.

..and if this need isn't met?! :eek: ;) :rolleyes:


Seriously though..xxx I only really use the internet when I'm at my drummers house so I don't really get on MSN or AIM very much these days.

Right now I have to go home and sleep because I've been awake for three days and everything is getting those little blue/purple streaks of blurried electricity and stuff and stuff and stuff and stuff.............x

No pinkie promises, but I'll try and get on MSN or AIM sometime during the week..xxx

What do you mean by 'School' though??? Do you mean secondary or tertiary???

Arghhh...School.......!

Thanx for reminding me; I gotta go back to college in a few days. MMMmmmm overdue assignments..xxx

[pixiesfanyo]

Like you said you got most of your tution paid for since you came from the states?

I was just curious how that worked out.

Or maybe I just read something wrong.

P.S. Nothing Super_D

[Disco Dragon]

Oh yeah. On the topic of "oooohhhh look at me, I'm so wonderfull but I'm being modest, so really I'm even more amazingly wonderfully amazingly wonderfull at lyrics" and qualifications and all that - I am a master of karate, kung fu and drunken streetfighting as well as a skilled house of cards creator, and I've been playing bass and guitar ever since I've been available for embryonic stem cell research so I must be the greatest lyricist ever.

Oh yeah.


Coolest.........................thing............. ...............ever....................

Period.

[ATC]

That's a lot of periods.

[super deluxe]

That's a lot of periods.

*menstruation joke goes here*

[Disco Dragon]

Haha........menstruation.

[Rushfan2112]

...some are easily amused...

[Disco Dragon]

Yeah, I'm actually pretty proud of it. I'd hate to be one of those people who can't appreciate a good penguin fight. If that ain't amusement, I just don't know what is.

[TheGreatestView]

on a further note:
Just because you are not intellectual enough to understand a word of such narrow definition,
and have to resort to such shallow witicism to combat your lack of creation. You shouldn't resort to insults and words that don't even exist

Way to "burn" someone for being, as you say, "not intellectual enough to understand a word of such narrow definition," while you yourself are apparently not intellectual enough to write a grammatically coherent sentence. You even edited it, and it's still atrocious. Try finishing a thought before finishing your sentence.

By the way, you spelled witticism wrong. Didn't you edit this post? Oh yeah, you did. I guess you're just a complete arse.

[Corupt2057]

corupt... were you the motor t POG?
Yes my MOS is Motor T but I don't know what POG stands for..
I'm a reservist as well if you didn't collect that

[Corupt2057]

anyays voting thread is up

[Rushfan2112]

Way to "burn" someone for being, as you say, "not intellectual enough to understand a word of such narrow definition," while you yourself are apparently not intellectual enough to write a grammatically coherent sentence. You even edited it, and it's still atrocious. Try finishing a thought before finishing your sentence.

By the way, you spelled witticism wrong. Didn't you edit this post? Oh yeah, you did. I guess you're just a complete arse.

You wouldn't put the word 'burn' in quotes, as it was not directly stated. You would put it like I just did.

And when did we become so petty as to insult someone's grammer on an internet forum?

Good day!

[Necroses-bass]

i still remain with my previous questions:
1. Am I the only european on this forum?
2. Pixies, what did u mean with being in Cradle of Filth Pt.2?

[super deluxe]

I don't see why my song didn't make the voting list.

[Corupt2057]

I didn't think you were serious
but if you really do just say so and I'll add your name on there

[DFelon204409]

Hahaha it's a Catch-22 pwn. How elegant super_slut. If corupt excludes you from the list he reveals his n00bness through not knowing the rules, but if corupt includes you then he is allowing your ridiculous song in. Elegant indeed.

[Disco Dragon]

Elegant.......or GENIUS????

[Corupt2057]

Hahaha it's a Catch-22 pwn. How elegant super_slut. If corupt excludes you from the list he reveals his n00bness through not knowing the rules, but if corupt includes you then he is allowing your ridiculous song in. Elegant indeed.
'n00bness' who gives a flying crap if someone considers a person a noob
not like it will actually effect my day to day routine
of course I'll add his gay song cause I wouldn't want to break the rules

DFelon get off the grudge you have agianst me and all your endeavors to try and impeach my intelligence
because honestly I'm starting to think you have a childish crush on me
you know those kind where you're just plain mean to the person you actually like anyhow just don't start stalking me or anything you '_' fill that in with the word you ban people for :thumb:

[DFelon204409]

I don't care about you. If she had done it to someone else I would have commented. It's not centered around you. I marveled at the quality of her pwn that you happened to fall trap to. Not the fact that it was you who got crushed in her mental coils. So break yoself. Fool.

No i don't have a crush on you. I only have crushes on people who can write good lyrics to a previously selected challenge word.

[super deluxe]

I would like to thank the Academy, Dfelon, Disco Dragon, and Corupt's Mom for this opportunity...


*bows*

[RunAmokRampant]

haha 'mental coils'. awesome

[ATC]

'n00bness' who gives a flying crap if someone considers a person a noob
not like it will actually effect my day to day routine
of course I'll add his gay song cause I wouldn't want to break the rules

DFelon get off the grudge you have agianst me and all your endeavors to try and impeach my intelligence
because honestly I'm starting to think you have a childish crush on me
you know those kind where you're just plain mean to the person you actually like anyhow just don't start stalking me or anything you '_' fill that in with the word you ban people for :thumb:

Who gives a flying crap?
Evidently, you do. You've even made yourself a pretty fantasy to go with it.

Congratulations on your award, Super D. Will you be doing more 'meaningful roles' now?

[pixiesfanyo]

I found a shiny nickel!!!!!

[RunAmokRampant]

Corupt, u should NEVER take the replies section seriously. But you still can if you want to coz its amusing for the rest of us

[6945]

n00b...the new N word

[ATC]

or..the other N word

[6945]

***chuckles*** horrible turd of a word

get er done SD

[Corupt2057]

My skivvies were in a twist that day
I just took you the wrong way DFelon my bad

[6945]

No no no Corupt...stick to your guns. Dont include SD's.....BS.
She's mocking you man, that's all. Its not a serious piece.

[Corupt2057]

lol yeah I know she's mocking the word no big deal to me it's not my name or anything lol thank my parents for that one but I don't want to break the rules but it seems rather pointless to actually include it into the voting I dunno DFelon might have to make the ruling on it
it's totally up to him I don't have the authority to decide

[super deluxe]

No no no Corupt...stick to your guns. Dont include SD's.....BS.
She's mocking you man, that's all. Its not a serious piece.

I will not take your nasty slander
Or the word to which you pander
I would never mock this man
I am wanderlust's #1 fan!

p.s. are you Minos? ;)

[jurialmunkey]

p.s. are you Minos? ;)


Just like that board game - Guess Who.

[A_Perfect_Sonnet]

Lovely little Seussesque rhyme that was.

[6945]

I will not take your nasty slander
Or the word to which you pander
I would never mock this man
I am wanderlust's #1 fan!

p.s. are you Minos? ;)

My dear, no slander was intended
just some harmless fun that offended
I am glad your aim is now clear
I think I'll go gorge on hot dogs and beer!!!

minos = :angry:

[super deluxe]

Lovely little Seussesque rhyme that was.


Dr. Seuss was inspiration
for this couplet's constipation.

[DFelon204409]

lol yeah I know she's mocking the word no big deal to me it's not my name or anything lol thank my parents for that one but I don't want to break the rules but it seems rather pointless to actually include it into the voting I dunno DFelon might have to make the ruling on it
it's totally up to him I don't have the authority to decide

If you include her, then she'll get voted last most likely. If you don't you're denying her entry. If she wants it included, she can have it as such.

[DFelon204409]

Dr. Seuss was inspiration
for this couplet's constipation.

Only lesbians play bass.
FACE

[A_Perfect_Sonnet]

Dfelon that last remark was quite hilarious,
Though the statement was rather anti-gregarious.
And since I have thoroughly enjoyed what I have been reading,
The only thing I can say about that is "ZING!"

That was weak.

[Disco Dragon]

Yeah, very weak. Weak sausage.

[A_Perfect_Sonnet]

I'm out of practice.

*Pulls out The Cat In The Hat*

[Disco Dragon]

Don't worry about pulling out The Cat in the Hat, just pull your head out of your ass and you'll be fine.

[A_Perfect_Sonnet]

I don't see where you're coming from.

[super deluxe]

Super Deluxe
It’s a good thing we don’t use paper, what a waste of tree that would be! And you can think I’m a stupid ho all you want, I think this was crappy, and this takes up time and space…I mean, how crappy is that, why don’t you just not bother entering and save us all a little time…like me for instance, I could have said “this sucks” and left it at that, but I wanted you to read a little bit more just to be annoying…and I liked the word wanderlust myself…althoughactually, to give a positive, there was nothing wrong with the flow of your song…
.5/10
9th

Ladies and gents, we have a wiener! :smoke:

[Minos]

Wanderlust? What crazy cracker thought of that word? Glad I haven't read the songs, they are probably all very similar.

I mean, how crappy is that, why don’t you just not bother entering and save us all a little time


As if that entire post was not a waste of time?

Anywho, guys, I apologize for my VERY long absence, I've been busy. I just moved BACK to california, had to get work, school, shelter, and car business worked out...I hope to consistently write again.

[super deluxe]

Wanderlust? What crazy cracker thought of that word? Glad I haven't read the songs, they are probably all very similar.


As if that entire post was not a waste of time?

Anywho, guys, I apologize for my VERY long absence, I've been busy. I just moved BACK to california, had to get work, school, shelter, and car business worked out...I hope to consistently write again.

HAY!

And to think I was just accusing someone else of being you under a new psuedonym...

[Minos]

lol, no...I hate switching...I switched from NightFox long ago and that threw everyone off, lol.

[k.s.e.]

you've never heard of POG?? Not sure if you're actually a devil dog now....

there are two types of Marines. The Infantry and POGs. Personnel Other than Grunt.

[Minos]

wtf, 6945, why does Minos = :angry:? I hate you.

[super deluxe]

Super Deluxe
That was a bad joke. I think that it is unwise to mock Corupt2057's theme word.
10th

Paddling down the Nile, our tour guide spots another common sight, the male n00b showing off his interweb plumage. His earnest calls send females scurrying away, as does his evident lack of what is known in these parts as "humor."

[Corupt2057]

you've never heard of POG?? Not sure if you're actually a devil dog now....

there are two types of Marines. The Infantry and POGs. Personnel Other than Grunt.
Yeah then I'm POG
I even asked a couple of the guys when I reported in at the beginning of the month what that was and none of them knew either, neither did my brother..
I don't think it is commonly known to none grunts
but you being a grunt I'm sure it is more common to you all
anyways take it easy

[Bigbadbob]

On a completely irrelevant subject, I'm going to see Al DiMeola tonight...I'm so excited!!!

[pixiesfanyo]

lol, no...I hate switching...I switched from NightFox long ago and that threw everyone off, lol.

Yay, Minos is back.

[Necroses-bass]

*dances round the room singing i'm gonna see the pixies*

[TheEvilErk2008]

This was song i found

F*** F**** F***
kill kill her
i like pancakes
STUFF ME IN A BAG AND SEND ME TO heck
i caught my wrist.....ow
now im dead
i hate you...
and, oh yeah,......wanderlust

[Rushfan2112]

in review of my useless rant, I hold myself in a higher regard then that, and have there for removed the rant, but to some up its purpose....

I am rather frustrated and confounded by why my lyrics recieve such poor grading....any assistance in helping me understand why my lyrics were graded lower then some other lyrics with....in my view....less thoughtful lyrics, and I wonder what you all look for in a lyric to be good, as I have writtent three pieces for competitions now that have been underscored, imo, and I am rather frustrated (with the crits, the grades, and myself)

I want to know what I'm doing 'wrong' so I can 'fix' the problem...

And as a final note I apologize for the rant that was originally in this post, you dont want to read it, and I am sorry to waste anyone's time who read it...

[pixiesfanyo]

Your lyrics aren't good.

Sorry.

[Disco Dragon]

I think pixies may have just given you the best advice a person could.

If you're frustrated with getting bad scores, write better songs. It's really pretty simple. Don't gripe about it, just work on improving. If you don't want to do that, then I suppose you could just bribe all of the judges with BJs like super d.

..........on second thought, she hasn't won a challenge in a while.


.................on third thought, she also gives terrible head. Go figure.

[SeasonOfTheMad]

so... has anyone read my song? whos the winner?

edit: im dumb, i see the voting thread now, i am new afterall (to this) my old account got banned permanently (thelizardkingcc)

anyhow, im gonna start doin these lyrical challenges pretty often, so you all will see me around here a lot. I hope the conversation gets better than the first couple of pages of this thread, I had to stop reading at page 3 cuz nothing was being said. Nothing of value or merit, just a bunch of trash talking between lyricists, which is just dumb.

[RunAmokRampant]

6945. can you elaborate on your crit of mine? I can accept your opinion but I want to know why

[ATC]

Welcome back, Minos.



(The following information is only for the people that were 'confuzzled' by the the theme of my song. It's about building up an imaginary perfect person in your head. It's part of a concept album we're doing. Interpret it anyway you like though.)


Season of the mad, we get all whiny and bitchy ever so often. You'll understand it better once you've been indoctrinated thoroughly.

[super deluxe]

If you're frustrated with getting bad scores, write better songs. It's really pretty simple. Don't gripe about it, just work on improving. If you don't want to do that, then I suppose you could just bribe all of the judges with BJs like super d.
.

I had a witty reply, and then decided you aren't even worth it.

[ATC]

A reply? A bj? or both?

[Corupt2057]

The voting thread is going to close monday about 1PM so everyone try to get your votes in this weekend I'll be gone but I'll get mine in sunday night
anyways I apologize for this challenges word
but I thought it would be more of a competition if everyone wrote about the same theme instead of just a more broad spectrum
anyways good luck guys

[6945]

6945. can you elaborate on your crit of mine? I can accept your opinion but I want to know why

I spent about 1/2 hour with it yesterday and each time I read it, I got into it more or better....more better. If someone reads it once, quickly, you're gonna see crits like...it doesnt rhyme...and it doesnt really do the piece justice. It's like a k.s.e. song. You have to sit down with it, absorb it, to enjoy it. Drummergirl got really good with this style. Words that didnt necessarly rhyme in the classical sense but flowed, meshed and complemented each other. Look at you're first 2 verses:

strong,
weak,
redemption,
to me.

My pride is at stake.
unwilling,
of the,
consequence.
loyalty,
approval.

You're no drummergirl, yet, But I like where you're headed

[jurialmunkey]

2 JurialMunkey- It’s true, it is so cliché. But the fact that you know that makes it somehow more palatable. You have some nice morbid lines in there, but I feel like you need another stanza in there to really develop a scathing moral of some sort.

Thankfully someone got it. And actually gave some thoughtful advice. :D

Yeah, it's a work in progress..xxx Lots of bits not finished and a whole section to write lyrics to..x Theres a bit that has to go in just before the "at least i'm an important chess piece..." part.

[Bigbadbob]

in review of my useless rant, I hold myself in a higher regard then that, and have there for removed the rant, but to some up its purpose....

I am rather frustrated and confounded by why my lyrics recieve such poor grading....any assistance in helping me understand why my lyrics were graded lower then some other lyrics with....in my view....less thoughtful lyrics, and I wonder what you all look for in a lyric to be good, as I have writtent three pieces for competitions now that have been underscored, imo, and I am rather frustrated (with the crits, the grades, and myself)

I want to know what I'm doing 'wrong' so I can 'fix' the problem...

And as a final note I apologize for the rant that was originally in this post, you dont want to read it, and I am sorry to waste anyone's time who read it...

You're not doing anything "wrong" unless you're trying to write lyrics to please others. You mention "thoughtful" lyrics. Maybe you're thinking too much. I seem to write best when my mind is calm, empty. I read you're last 3 pieces and one thing maybe I see is a pretty ordinary vocabulary. Some people just have a knack for "turning a phrase", one line that is original, unique can make an impression on ppl. I dont think you've developed that yet. "Mortal Crime" was thougtful enough. But, have you ever explored the map? Literally? Maybe you're trying to capture the essence of something you havnt experienced so it comes off a little flat. Just my thought on your ?
Hard to tell what people will vote for. Best to write for youself, write from your experience. You might try studing NP since you're a RUSH fan. I read his ghost rider book and the Vapor Trails CD took on a whole new meaning.

[Rushfan2112]

Heh, thanks for the advice man...I've read Ghost Rider, and have Vapor Trails...infact, being both a drummer and a lyricist, Neil's where I get a lot of my inspiration from (how do I say I'm a friggen fanatic without looking like a dork?)...He's a great writer, yeah...but he's kinda outta my league (part of why I like Rush so much)...I cant turn phrases like him, that would be crazy...plus, hes been doin what he's doin for thirty years...I haven't been writing lyrics for more then a year or so...but everytime i try to write something like that, it comes out very....teenager sounding (imagine that!)

[RunAmokRampant]

thanks 6945 :)

Sometimes I like to rhyme especially for poetry, but I like to write lyrics for music more coz anything can fit with music.

[Disco Dragon]

I had a witty reply, and then decided you aren't even worth it.

Darn the luck. But I sense that perhaps you took my comment to heart. In that case I ask............why?

[i am the robots]

Hey everybody, I decided to take a break from these, cause I was really not inspired at all before, but I actually have some things on my mind that I can use for the next challenge, and hopefully it won't suck.

So what's been up all?

[super deluxe]

Darn the luck. But I sense that perhaps you took my comment to heart. In that case I ask............why?

Because I was going to say something tacky about how your envy of people who have actually won a challenge is a bit over the top. But that would be rude, so I decided not to. :)

Also, I'm a slut.

[Disco Dragon]

Actually, I'm not really envious at all. It's an internet lyric challenge. I think I'll be able to cope with my losing. Besides, I do it for fun, not to win.

And after all, some day I might be a winner, but you'll still be a whore. :)

[Minos]

...DD, you've passed off your title as challenge whore? ****...I have been gone awhile...

[Rushfan2112]

wow, reading back, is it just me or have a lot of peiple gotten pissed during this contest...

i mean, me, yeah, then the whole noob/vet arguement....etc...

and then the amount of people unhappy with the word....

not a good challenge for anyone...lol

[Corupt2057]

The rest of you guys that are in the challenge that haven't voted or finished voting need to hurry up and do so
I'm not going to be an asshole and DQ alot of people so I'll give you until monday night about 10PM central time to get it done and then I'm calling the voting thread closed cause I wanna move on from this challenge and just get a fresh start from all this animosity

[super deluxe]

wow, reading back, is it just me or have a lot of peiple gotten pissed during this contest...

i mean, me, yeah, then the whole noob/vet arguement....etc...

and then the amount of people unhappy with the word....

not a good challenge for anyone...lol

Uh, I don't know why you think I didn't give you a content critique, because if you look at what I wrote, you'll see I mentioned it specifically.

[Minos]

Yes the noob/vet argument. My two cents:

Being a vet is a huge accomplishment, and one that should be respected...lets say this...you are looking for tips on playing ice hockey. Who are you more likely to ask, a guy who has been playing twenty years, or the guy who just started last year? And when learning guitar, would you rather learn from Eric Clapton, or the 13 year old across the street who just finished his lessons at the local music shop?

My thoughts exactly.

[6945]

Yes the noob/vet argument. My two cents:

Being a vet is a huge accomplishment, and one that should be respected...lets say this...you are looking for tips on playing ice hockey. Who are you more likely to ask, a guy who has been playing twenty years, or the guy who just started last year? And when learning guitar, would you rather learn from Eric Clapton, or the 13 year old across the street who just finished his lessons at the local music shop?

My thoughts exactly.


agree...except being a n00b to this forum doesnt mean one is new to writing.
and also it depends...is this 13yr old female?....and does she know how to naughty?

[i am the robots]

Yes the noob/vet argument. My two cents:

Being a vet is a huge accomplishment, and one that should be respected...lets say this...you are looking for tips on playing ice hockey. Who are you more likely to ask, a guy who has been playing twenty years, or the guy who just started last year? And when learning guitar, would you rather learn from Eric Clapton, or the 13 year old across the street who just finished his lessons at the local music shop?

My thoughts exactly.

Clapton played emotionally, he wasn't amazing though.

Using older players verses new players, I'd take lessons from Peter Lindgren over Eric Clapton anyday

[Minos]

Isn't emotion kind of the point? The reason I dislike Dream Theater is simply because their music may be amazing, but it has no emotion...Like I mentioned in one of my crits, like reading from a textbook. Besides, ones music is not a complete showcase for how much knowledge and skill you have. I design web pages. If I design a small, and straightforward site because it's all I want/need, does that imply I couldn't do more?

Look guys, we aren't asking for much, lyrically. I know there are different styles, different musical genres, blah blah. But somewhere we need to see something...I want to believe that there is a POINT to reading your song, not just because the rules say so. I want to enjoy reading your song. Having trouble with imagery? It's not hard, check out 'White Room' by Cream:

In the white room / with black curtains / near the station.
Blackroof country / no gold pavements / tired starlings.
Silver horses / ran down moonbeams / in your dark eyes.
Dawnlight smiles / on you leaving / my contentment.

I’ll wait in this place where the sun never shines;
Wait in this place where the shadows run from themselves.

You said no strings / could secure you / at the station.
Platform ticket / restless diesels / goodbye windows.
I walked into / such a sad time / at the station.
As I walked out / felt my own need / just beginning.

I’ll wait in the queue when the trains come back;
Lie with you where the shadows run from themselves.

At the party / she was kindness / in the hard crowd.
Consolation / for the old wound / now forgotten.
Yellow tigers / crouched in jungles / in her dark eyes.
She’s just dressing / goodbye windows / tired starlings.

I’ll sleep in this place with the lonely crowd;
Lie in the dark where the shadows run from themselves.

[Rushfan2112]

Uh, I don't know why you think I didn't give you a content critique, because if you look at what I wrote, you'll see I mentioned it specifically.

I said nothing about you not giving me a content crit.....i said nothing about you giving a crit...where you gettin that from?

[Disco Dragon]

She mostly pulls it out of her vagina. The herpes may have hindered her reading capabilities momentarily.

And yes Minos, I have given up my title as challenge whore. I'm thinking about downgrading to challenge prostitute-on-the-side.

[Corupt2057]

DD you going to vote tonight?

[Corupt2057]

Tallied Votes

Corupt2057
3,1,1,1,7,7,3,8,5

Mr. Hankie
8,8,8,7,3,5,9,9,10,10

Disco Dragon
2,4,2,6,2,2,6,6,3,4

RunAmokRampant
1,1,4,6,6,5,4,7,1

6945
3,6,3,7,1,1,5,2,2

Rushfan2112
5,6,3,9,3,4,7,6,7

SeasonOfTheMad
6,5,5,2,4,8,2,5,8

super deluxe
9,9,9,9,10,9,8,9,9

jurialmunkey
7,2,7,8,8,8,2,1,1,3

addicted_tochaos
4,7,4,5,5,4,3,4,6

Standings

Corupt2057
28/9
3.11

Mr. Hankie
67/10
6.7

Disco Dragon
31/10
3.1

RunAmokRampant
28/9
3.11

6945
23/9
2.56

Rushfan2112
41/9
4.56

SeasonOfTheMad
37/9
4.11

super deluxe
71/9
9

jurialmunkey
39/10
3.9

addicted_tochaos
35/9
3.89

Final Ranks

1. 6945
2. Disco Dragon
3. (Tie)Corupt2057, RunAmokRampant
4. addicted_tochaos
5. jurialmunkey
6. SeasonOfTheMad
7. Rushfan2112
8. Mr. Hankie
9. super deluxe

DQ'ed for next challenge:

Mr. Hankie
Disco Dragon
jurialmunkey

Winner of Challenge 86
Congrats 6945

[RunAmokRampant]

wow I did better than I thought. voting was quite varied to say the least. Good job 6945

[Minos]

I'll save superD the trouble.


super deluxe - cute. referring to your crit on my piece, I think I would actually consider it a critique if you read for content and not just read for the rhyme at the end of the line. that's your downfall
Rank 9


She meant corrupt.

[super deluxe]

I'll save superD the trouble.



She meant corrupt.


Thanks, Minos! :)


Now will you save me the trouble of telling DD that he's become an insufferable tool?

[wash8burn]

i'm sorry, this is going to be a stupid question, but what's going on here?! i've read through the thread, but i get the feeling that it's not what i'm supposed to do. you guys keep commenting on each other's lyrics (i think), but where can i view this?

i'm not a writer (of words) but i try to write on guitar. i found this thread interesting and would really want to find out more. please help

[DFelon204409]

Look at the stickied threads. This isn't the current challenge. There is a rule thread you should read as well. That'll clarify some stuff.