The Doors

[cass]

alright, so most of the music community is divided on this band. Half of us think The Doors are brilliant, half of us think it's all tripe and Morrison's lyrics were nothing more than nonsensical ramblings

the question is...what do YOU think

[ArcLite]

I enjoy them. Their music is a bit cheesy at times but that's what I like about it. L.A. Woman is my favorite song.

[Evil Clown Liquor]

?????


I've actually seen nothing but praise for The Doors, as I recall. Unless I haven't been looking in enough threads.

[guitrguy]

alright, so most of the music community is divided on this band. Half of us think The Doors are brilliant, half of us think it's all tripe and Morrison's lyrics were nothing more than nonsensical ramblings

the question is...what do YOU thinkI have yet to see the negative in here.

[Paranoidd]

I think Jim had some great poetry, but alot of it was drug induced nonsense.

They did some real interesting thigns though...the way Manzarek and Kreiger wrote music, very nice.

[thickasabrick]

The Doors are one of my favourite bands. I think there was a thread about them not too long ago because i remember rambling on about how much i love them.

Jim Morrison is my favourite singer, lyricist, poet, and just all around person in the world.
Ray Manzarek is a great organ player, definitely my favourite.
Robbie Krieger is an amazing guitarist, he probably has the most original style for "rock" guitarists in the sxities. I was thinking of buying this book on the weekend that breaks down his style and shows how to play a bunch of Doors songs.
John Densmore was a great drummer. Didn't contribute much in total to the Doors, but he was good at aggravating Jim. They hated eachother.

[guitrguy]

Is the movie any good? If it Ill rent it this weekend.

[thickasabrick]

Is the movie any good? If it Ill rent it this weekend.

it's entertaining. more of a hollywood movie than a biography though. they tended to show the darker side of jim.

ray manzarek wasn't very happy at how they portrayed everyone. He said they looked all too serious. "We were potheads! We were laughing all the time!"

[guitrguy]

So its worth renting?

[thickasabrick]

So its worth renting?

i'd say so. i enjoyed it.

[Burial]

it's entertaining. more of a hollywood movie than a biography though. they tended to show the darker side of jim.

ray manzarek wasn't very happy at how they portrayed everyone. He said they looked all too serious. "We were potheads! We were laughing all the time!"
the movie was unrealistic as hell, plus they shouldn't of had val kilmer play in it, you know billy idol, eddie vedder, and micheal hutchence (from inxs) tried out for the role....i heard he spent all this time, going through the lines, considering his closest resemblance and what not i think he should of played the part, but yeah the doors rule nuff said

[Silverstein]

I think the doors are one of the most influencial bands of all time. I find quite a few of their songs meaningfull but i dont find them to be very catchy tunes, they were more about the lyrics and the live show.

[Brew]

I dug out the album ''Alive She Cried'' the other day, and its pretty good.

[Schyma]

Robbie Krieger is an amazing guitarist, he probably has the most original style for "rock" guitarists in the sxities. I was thinking of buying this book on the weekend that breaks down his style and shows how to play a bunch of Doors songs.

You mean "flamiko"? Its really hard stuff but hopefully one day I will learn. All the spanish type guitarist play it.

[hypocracy hater]

j'adore 'The Doors'

She's a ... 20th century fox

Lets swin to the moon uh huh lets climb thru tha tide penetrate tha evening that tha city sleeps to hide.

try to run, try to hide, break on thru to the other side

keep your eyes on da road, your hand upon the wheel

People are strange, when your a stranger faces look ugly, when your alone

[unclebobscircus]

Morrison is a great lyricist and poet, no doubt.

[dainbramage727]

I think the doors are one of the most influencial bands of all time. I find quite a few of their songs meaningfull but i dont find them to be very catchy tunes, they were more about the lyrics and the live show.
dont get me wrong, i love the doors, but i disagree that they are very influential. how many bands can you name that have been influenced by the doors?

[unclebobscircus]

dont get me wrong, i love the doors, but i disagree that they are very influential. how many bands can you name that have been influenced by the doors?

I'd say that every rock band since 1968 or so has been influenced by the Doors.

[dainbramage727]

how so? very few bands have keyboards and no bass.

[Sam]

You mean "flamiko"? Its really hard stuff but hopefully one day I will learn. All the spanish type guitarist play it.

Flamenco.

I dont remember any flameno in any Doors songs (I only have ST and LA Woman), but I could be wrong. The Doors rock though.

[-Listy-]

Never really got into them, not my kinda band, no offence :)

[MajOr tHreaT]

I love the doors. Jim was a great lyricist.

[greenmonkey]

i love the doors only band i like more is zeppelin. i think that morrison was the greatest vocalest ever as well

[Syncratic]

Brilliance....Brilliance. Jim Morrison's lyrics, the organ (an organ solo....c'mon, how's that no great) and the music bringing it all together.

[ToRidTheDisease]

alright, so most of the music community is divided on this band. Half of us think The Doors are brilliant, half of us think it's all tripe and Morrison's lyrics were nothing more than nonsensical ramblings

the question is...what do YOU think
I made a Door's thread like a week ago.

[Evil Clown Liquor]

I think Jim had some great poetry, but alot of it was drug induced nonsense.

Indeed, some of it was, and I think people often get them confused. Like The End. More than half of that song was just the ramblings of a drugged-up Morrison. (Didn't stop that song from conjuring up some creepy imagery, however.)

Then you had songs like Break On Through and Riders On The Storm, which are examples of why Morrison is thought of as one of the best songwriters of the past 50 years.

[corporalclegg]

I haven't seen any Doors threads, so might as well start one. Whats your favorite album? Whats yours thought on Jim Morrison? Drunken fool or poet?

[ArC]

I really enjoyed "The Doors" and "LA Woman". I think Jim was a good songwriter, and I love the keyboards belting out bass chords, but I don't think there was anything too special about his writings. I still really like their music.

[corporalclegg]

Booty!

[Whale and Wasp]

i really like the music a lot :D whenever i am in a crappy mood, it never fails to cheer me up

[Britton]

What's the name of that song with the spanish guitar?

[Britney Diva]

Spanish Caravan

[robo2448]

I like the Doors a lot. S/T, Strange Days and LA Woman are all really great albums. Morrison Hotel is quite good as well. My favorite song is probably When the Music's Over or Back Door Man.

[Anxious]

Whats a good album to start out on?

[Lunch]

Definitely their Self-titled.

I really like that one and Strange Days. I like the Doors overall, but I'm not in love with them.

[Anxious]

Ok I'll get that, I really like Morrison's voice, but havent really listened to them alot. Thanks.

[Ephemeral]

I just bought the Guitar World 'Guitar Legends' magazine on The Doors. Really interesting stuff. If you are a Doors fan, I would recommend buying it.

The Doors are one of my favorite bands of all time.

[Sleeper]

One of my favorite Classic Rock bands. I was more into Jim Morrison than the band, his poetry is intense.

[dr._feelgood]

The End is an amazing song.

[PrimalScream]

My Eyes Have Seen You is my favorite song on Strange Days

[Britton]

I guess need to get spanish carevan.

Thanks

Good luck with this thread

[magicbus]

My favorite Doors album is Strange Days. That's a real cool one.

[dr._feelgood]

Strange Days has an awesome album cover, as well.

[Seafroggys]

Spanish Caravan

WHo;''s that in your avatar?

[Britton]

Some one really hot

[-The Frank]

i personnaly like touch me best

[The_Passenger]

They're an alright band. I don't get what the big fuss about them is. They're certainly not bad, but I don't see them as anything special either.

[rockinbass17]

You have to be exposed to the right stuff. They're very hit-and-miss.

[Ephemeral]

I remember listening to them as a kid. My Dad would put on the albums and I would just sit and listen to them. After they were done, I would ask him to put them on again. I spent days just listening to their music. I never get bored of it.

I had the opportunity to see them this summer, as The Doors Of The 21st Century. Now they are touring as Riders On The Storm. They put on a brilliant show.

[dr._feelgood]

It's not the same without Jim Morrison, though.

[Cal_on_drums]

i personnaly like touch me best

Jack Black doing it is the best.

[crawlingkingsnake]

jim morrisons poetry and lyrics are trippy as hell/. i always thought there was some deeper meaning in his words to be deciphered. this is kind of true but i was listening to some interview of the doors that i d/l'd a cuple weeks ago and he said something like "theres really no central theme running through our lyrics, but we create an ambience. a feeling of the strange"

i consider (some)of his lyrics great poetry because they don't always make sense but they communicate moore of a feeling

[CantBuyAThrill]

Favorite album? "The Doors"
Favorite Songs? I like their longer, trippy songs like "When the Music's Over" and "The End". For shorter songs, I really dig "Soul Kitchen" and "Whiskey Bar", though "Peace Frog" and "Five to One" are great songs as well.
Drunken fool or poet? Both

Jack Black doing it is the best.

No, the Doors doing it is the best. Though Jack's version isn't bad.

"The Crystal Ship" has some of my favorite (non-Dylan) all time lyrics in it.

[deadvoodoodoll]

the doors are one of my favorite bands :D

strange days is my favorite albums and when to music's over is my favorite song. Jim Morrison's poetry and lyrics are just amazing. and Robby Krieger is a damn good guitareist. i was actually thinking of getting the chours to "when the music's over" tattooed on me, but that may be to fangirlish of me. i don't want to whore the band too much :rolleyes:

[Broken Arrow]

The Doors are definetly one of my favourite bands. I have there complete studio collection(with Jim), In Concert, American Prayer(Jim's poetry album) and the DVD Live in Europe '68.

Great Band!!

[Britton]

Hey could someone E-mail me Spanish Caravan? I've been getting into Spanish
err fleminco style music and I think that would be another cool song to know

if you can it's

brittonmadcap@yahoo.com

[Sebek]

I had their dual disc collection CD, but it's too scratched to go on the compytron now. :(


I'll either wait until I can borrow some CD's/have them sent to me since I don't feel like getting a handfull of songs from Limewire.

[Iron_Weed]

Whats yours thought on Jim Morrison? Drunken fool or poet?

I'd say both, when he doesn't go off into drunken ramblings he can put forth some very deep and witty stuff. However his constant drunkness gave The Doors an X factor which many bands don't posses live so I wouldn't change it.
I'm a big fan of Riders on the Storm, Break on Thorugh, and Roadhouse Blues. I enjoy the Doors more in principle than I do most of their songs however.

[EightMilesHigh]

I love The Doors, though I think Morrison was overrated as an intellectual. But, he did have a good voice and some awesome trippy lyrics. Their s/t album is a wicked album, something I can listen to all the way through front to back.

Riders On The Storm is great to listen to on a rainy day.

[Ephemeral]

I listened to their first album again today. Their music just always blows me away.

[thickasabrick]

I looooove The Doors. Jim Morrison is amazing, he's my second favourite songwriter (Bob Dylan)...and everything he's written has changed my life so drastically that I don't know where I'd be right now without his influence.

Ray is my favourite keyboard/organist, he could play some freakin' amazing stuff. Robbie is one of my biggest guitar influences, plus he was a great songwriter too. The Doors definitely wouldn't have been nearly as famous without both Ray and Robbie.

John was dead weight. Haha just kidding, he was a really cool drummer, but he didn't seem to add as much to the music as the other members did...he was too timid, in my opinion. His drumming on When The Music's Over is great though.

"I believe in a prolonged derangement of the senses to obtain the unknown" - Words to live by.

[Electric Riley]

One of my favourite bands of all time. I quite like "People are Strange" and of course "The End".

[NytestrykerZ]

I just got into The Doors recently. I like a good amount of their tunes, I'm yet to buy a CD but I'm quite big on them. I noticed Jim's voice changed a bit on LA Woman and I really like it, it sounds bluesier (probably because of the alchohol and packed on pounds).

[Schyma]

Like Thickasabrick, I don't know where I'd be without them. Infact I don't think I'd be typing this post out without them. They were the first band who began my never ending love for Classic Rock which eventually lead to exploring other genres such as Jazz, Blues, Folk...etc. Morrison is quite possibly my favorite songwritter, Robby is extremly underrated and when you hear Ray's organs you automaticaly know who's playing. They've made some of the best songs of the 60's with "The End", "When the Music's Over", "Not to Touch the Earth"..etc and one of the greatest albums of all time with their self titled. As one of my favorite bands I love them to death. :)

[periculosus]

well the doors are just a kick *** band and well im not a big literate on jim morrison's literary works but he wrote some significant philosofy works so i dont think he was actually overrated

[Probot77]

I love the doors. I own several of there albums and i just bought a live dvd of theirs and it is amazing.

[rockinbass17]

Time for a new album. It will be a Doors album. I've got s/t, Strange Days, and Morrison Hotel. What to get next- WFTS or LA Woman? I've heard most of LA, and a good amount of WFTS, but I'm a bit torn.

[Aeaon]

Jim Morrison is god. End of story.

[robo2448]

Time for a new album. It will be a Doors album. I've got s/t, Strange Days, and Morrison Hotel. What to get next- WFTS or LA Woman? I've heard most of LA, and a good amount of WFTS, but I'm a bit torn.

Get L.A. Woman. It might be my favorite, right up there with Strange Days and s/t. It's more bluesy than their other albums. Great stuff. Waiting For the Sun is great as well, but I like L.A. Woman better.

Britton if nobody's sent you Spanish Caravan yet, I could send it to you.

[Jacaran]

I'm not a big fan of the Doors their CD's end up going in one ear and out the other I really don't take any of it in, but if I had to choose the S/T would be my favorite just cause I like "Break on Through".

And I'm not exactly a fan of Jim Morrison.

[rockinbass17]

I heard LAW is quite bluesy, and WFTS is more poppy. This means that I should go for LAW, but the only thing that would hold me back is the title track. I really don't like it at all. It does have Riders on the Storm, however.
That being said, WFTS has Unkown Soldier. This is hard.

[ozzyhead541]

Jim was as Drunkin Poet there you go...

[6stringed]

The Doors are awesome. Rock would not be the same if Jim Morrison stayed in Universaty. I have the Guitar Legends Magizine, it is cool and shows some tabs. The Movie 'The Doors' is sweet. It has some naked people in there. (Guys do not watch this just to see naked chicks).

[Its all gravys]

i love the doors. has anyone got the album, 'alive she cried' i never knew they were so ****ing good live!!!

[Broken Arrow]

The Doors are awesome. Rock would not be the same if Jim Morrison stayed in Universaty. I have the Guitar Legends Magizine, it is cool and shows some tabs. The Movie 'The Doors' is sweet. It has some naked people in there. (Guys do not watch this just to see naked chicks).
So many random thoughts thrown into one paragraph. :lol:

Anyways I haven't listened to the Doors in quite a while. I listened to La Woman last week but that was it.

/throws on Strange Days

[superpeer]

I love the Doors. I haven't heard a Doors song that I don't like.

[Converge]

I love the doors! umm LA woman is probaly my favorite song is probaly when the musics over and riders of the storm.

[TerryThorne]

The Doors' brand of music is very interesting. I like the sound of how it just feels good to listen to and has a certain edge to it that makes it unique. And you have to love the organ.

[6stringed]

So did anyone hear about Robby Krieger and Ray Manzarek's new band?

Well, its called Riders on the Storm. The lead singer is the former Cult singer Ian Astbury.

[draintheblood]

I listen to them as much as I can, it's just hard because all I have are tapes and records. I'm too lazy to go out and buy CDs. :(

[Danger Bird]

Did you know that in '99, they remastered the s/t LP to include the words '****' and 'high' in 'The End' and 'Break on Through', which were omitted for 98 years?

[Danger Bird]

Indeed, some of it was, and I think people often get them confused. Like The End. More than half of that song was just the ramblings of a drugged-up Morrison. (Didn't stop that song from conjuring up some creepy imagery, however.)

Are you kidding? The Oedipal The End is one of the great lyrical works of our time.

[6stringed]

"It was hard living with Jim. It would have been so great if we'd just had a guy like Sting-a normal guy who's extremley talented,too. Someone who didn't have to be on the verge of life and death every second"-Robby Krieger

Even thought it was hard living with Jim, and he was drugged up. I still think Jim was awesome and unique in his own 'weirdness'

[Danger Bird]

Has anybody heard the remastered s/t CD? It has the uncensored versions of Break on Through and The End.

[thickasabrick]

"It was hard living with Jim. It would have been so great if we'd just had a guy like Sting-a normal guy who's extremley talented,too. Someone who didn't have to be on the verge of life and death every second"-Robby Krieger

Heh heh...yeah, Jim wasn't the easiest guy for most people to get along with. According to many books/internet sources, John Densmore developed a skin condition (rash type thing) after the Doors formed....it went away the day Jim died. John was horribly afraid of Jim, I remember reading in Life, Death, Legend that John walked into a room while Jim was holding a knife to John's girlfriends throat. Haha, what a guy!

edit - I can't stop staring at your avatar, Led-Zeppelin. I like it, I like it alot.

[surfordie12]

:rolleyes:
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a281/surfordie12/untitled.jpg

[6stringed]

The Doors of Perception

[corporalclegg]

You read Morrison's The American Night and then watch HWY. Good Times.

[Brain Toad]

The Doors are the reason I stopped being a wigger and got more into rock music. Love 'em so much I changed my username to one of their lyrics (and then shortened it)

[Krabsworth]

The Doors are great, Love Street is probably my favorite song from them. I read somewhere that Robby Krieger had only been playing guitar 6 months before becoming a part of the band. I think Krieger would've failed miserably if he didn't have Ray creating such a wall of sound.

[Schyma]

That cannot be right. Robby Krieger sounds like he's playing all his life. He's a fantastic guitar, he definitely had to have played for more than 6 months. I mean that just can’t be right.

[Britney Diva]

No way; Robby is a classically trained guitarist and was long before the Doors formed.

[Its all gravys]

whoever wrote that is an idiot.

[iluvkirkhammett]

I don't mind the doors but I feel they are a little overrated. Ever since the movie came out all the little hardcore kids in my area have been in love with them, and they don't even really appreciate their music, just their image.

[magicbus]

The Doors continue to be fantastic. I just watched the movie again last night.

The Crystal Ship is a great song.

[potocheese]

the doors is the bestest band of all.. i was a fan of the doors when i was in high school.. i love all their music.. thats why i love writing poems... jim morrison is a good writer.. nonesensical poems, thats his nature...

[Ephemeral]

Robby played classical and flaminco guitar for years before, but when he started playing with the Doors, he had only picked up an electric guitar for his first time a few moths before.

[Masterofpuppetz89]

Some of the doors stuff like spanish caravan, five to one, and crystal ship is really good. Then they have some really corny stuff

[zack]

I read a guitar magazine about 6 or 7 years ago that everyone in the band was a drug dealer at one point in time. Jim and one of the others were going to college together. Can anyone elaborate on that?

[Ephemeral]

I read a guitar magazine about 6 or 7 years ago that everyone in the band was a drug dealer at one point in time. Jim and one of the others were going to college together. Can anyone elaborate on that?
Yeah, Jim and Ray went to film college together. That's how they knew eachother.

Jim then went away to new york. Ray thought he would never see his again, but then one day, when Ray was just sitting on the beach, Jim just comes walking up to him and asks him what he had been doing.

They started a band with Ray's brother, but it was more like a surf band, and they didn't want that. Then they brought in Robby. And yeah.

[zack]

That's cool. Know anything about the drug dealing? I remember reading stuff about deals going real bad.

[NikP]

Not all of there songs are nonsense, The End of all songs is not, it relates to that Ancient Greek storey of the boy who killed his father, brother & sister and then married his mother.

Many Doors songs have a deeper meaning than they seem to on the outside.

[magicbus]

Not all of there songs are nonsense, The End of all songs is not, it relates to that Ancient Greek storey of the boy who killed his father, brother & sister and then married his mother.

Many Doors songs have a deeper meaning than they seem to on the outside.

Oedipus Rex.

/nothing else

[NikP]

Oedipus Rex.

/nothing else


thats the one :)

[6stringed]

Yeah, Jim and Ray went to film college together. That's how they knew eachother.

Jim then went away to new york. Ray thought he would never see his again, but then one day, when Ray was just sitting on the beach, Jim just comes walking up to him and asks him what he had been doing.

They started a band with Ray's brother, but it was more like a surf band, and they didn't want that. Then they brought in Robby. And yeah.

Did you get this from the movie or did u actually know before.

Anyways.....The new "doors" band, which includes Robby Krieger and Ray Manzarek got tooken to U.S. courts because of John Densmore so they weren't aloud to use the word "doors" in the band name. They are called the "Riders of the Storm"

[DeusExMachina]

In relation to this whole "nonsense lyrics" thing. Jim Morrison was a huge Dionysian, big into the philosophy of Friedrich Nietzsche, which had a pretty heavy influence on his writing. I'm pretty sure Nietzsche was the one who developed the theories of Dionysian personalities vs. some other greek god's personalities. I'm a little vague on it all, but I may remember later.

Anywho, I like the Doors. Good music.

[savagebassist]

I Think that the doors are definatly one of the number one bands from the 60s to 70s...though I only have the greatest hits CD and a Live CD...i still think that songs like "LA woman" and "The End" have a certain creative edge that you just don't see in most rock/any band nowadays...I always listen to them and the grooves in the tunes are just really catchy. I strive to learn all the best songs on bass, and I wish that i lived in a more guitar oriented/larger area where i could possibly get a tribute band going :chug: :)

the only negative comments towards the doors that i've heard from **** head posers is that the keyboarding gets really annoying and ruins the music...ask me what it is when someone doesn't know what they're talking about and i'll show you this comment:angry:

[omgwtfboogie]

I will always respect Jim Morrison as a lyricist, frontman, and vocalist regardless of anything. His lyrics are often ingenius and pull on references to mythology and forms of spirituality. As a frontman he had charisma, he was very intelligent both in his music and outside of it (even while high), and really just did his own thing. I respect him as a vocalist because of how he stepped into his role as vocalist without prior experience. And damn he did a good job.

The Doors for me are Jim and Ray, and I think that's mostly because they could hold their own without the other guys. They always claimed they relied on each other, but really the songs were carried by Jim and Ray.

Awesome band. I highly respect Ray as well..

[Cal_on_drums]

Jim was as Drunkin Poet there you go...


:rolleyes:

[n00bguitarist]

The Doors are great. Favorite song is either Peace Frog or The End.

[temporary]

The Doors for me are Jim and Ray, and I think that's mostly because they could hold their own without the other guys. They always claimed they relied on each other, but really the songs were carried by Jim and Ray.

People never give Robbie enough credit. He's a fantastic guitar player and he wrote just as much of the music as the others.

Not all of there songs are nonsense, The End of all songs is not, it relates to that Ancient Greek storey of the boy who killed his father, brother & sister and then married his mother.

I'm pretty sure that the only the "Killer awoke at dawn..." part refers to that, not the rest. The End is such a perfect song...

[omgwtfboogie]

People never give Robbie enough credit. He's a fantastic guitar player and he wrote just as much of the music as the others.

Yeah, he certainly has songwriting abilities, and he is a knowledgeable guitarists, but.. I just don't see him as being as much of a focal point as the other two. Without Robby, I would still listen to the song. Without Ray I wouldn't. Without Jim, I certainly wouldn't.

[temporary]

Yeah, he certainly has songwriting abilities, and he is a knowledgeable guitarists, but.. I just don't see him as being as much of a focal point as the other two. Without Robby, I would still listen to the song. Without Ray I wouldn't. Without Jim, I certainly wouldn't.

I understand what you're saying, and I'd probably agree with you that Ray and Jim are what really make the band, but Robby is painfulling underrated.

[robo2448]

All the Doors are very underrated except Morrison. I love Jim, and I really like his singing style, but I think most people fans would admit he's kind of overrated. He was a great singer/frontman but overshadowed the instrumental talents of the rest of the band. Ray was an amazing keyboardist, and musically, he was the most important and added the most to the Doors IMO. Robbie is very underrated as a guitarist; he didn't show off, but was very skilled and managed to contribute a lot to the Doors sound without showing off. And then there's John Densmore who is criminally overlooked as a drummer, very talented and gave the Doors a nice backbone.

[omgwtfboogie]

I understand what you're saying, and I'd probably agree with you that Ray and Jim are what really make the band, but Robby is painfulling underrated.
I'll agree with that for sure. He didn't necessarily shine in the actual songs themselves, but I know he's quite the guitarist. People underrate him just because he's more of a texture applier for the Door's music, if that makes sense. As in he's not in the front of everything like most guitarists.

[omgwtfboogie]

All the Doors are very underrated except Morrison. I love Jim, and I really like his singing style, but I think most people fans would admit he's kind of overrated. He was a great singer/frontman but overshadowed the instrumental talents of the rest of the band. Ray was an amazing keyboardist, and musically, he was the most important and added the most to the Doors IMO. Robbie is very underrated as a guitarist; he didn't show off, but was very skilled and managed to contribute a lot to the Doors sound without showing off. And then there's John Densmore who is criminally overlooked as a drummer, very talented and gave the Doors a nice backbone.
Yeah, John is a damn solid drummer. I like the minimalist attitude of the sixties and seventies. He didn't use a huge kit with two bass drums, an array of rack toms, etc., but he was still solid and creative enough to get by.

Jim can be overrated by some people, but I personally like him the best just judging from what he brought to their collective table. That man could write some intricate, involving poetry, something that no one was doing and rarely does today.