Official Blink 182 Thread

[bottlerocket]

My friends and I still call each other boners and make jokes about farting and pooping and we're mostly freshman and sophomores in college.

Only my old school friends, though, the kids I grew up with. Everyone else is like, "...Did you just tell me to go **** my dad? That's mature."

They don't see the humor. :upset:

[lunchforthesky]

My old friends were dead childish but everyone at Uni wants to be mature and lame.

[The Chemist]

13 miles. thats the only good blink song

[10571z]

Just about done is the worst song by far.

[bottlerocket]

13 miles. thats the only good blink song

Lies.

Just About Done is a mad funny song.

[Untitled]

My old friends were dead childish but everyone at Uni wants to be mature and lame.

Lol your uni sucks, the best part of uni is being childish.

[Surtr]

Gav: Oh me and my friends said that stuff ALL the time. I'm just saying "poop" jokes are old..**** is the only form of "poop" that is funny.

10571z: You're wrong. It's an awesome song. The worst Blink song ever is "gtfo out of my thread already, I h8 u, kthx!"

[10571z]

wtf is Gtfo

[DJ Ducksauce]

wtf is wtf

gtfo=get the fark out

[Surtr]

wtf is Gtfo

Rofl...:lol:

Anywayyyys....

[lunchforthesky]

Lol your uni sucks, the best part of uni is being childish.

It's full of public school kids :(

[Pazz]

wtf is Gtfo

Something you should do.

[lunchforthesky]

lmao.

[poo-poo-pee-pee]

My friends and I still call each other boners and make jokes about farting and pooping and we're mostly freshman and sophomores in college.

Only my old school friends, though, the kids I grew up with. Everyone else is like, "...Did you just tell me to go **** my dad? That's mature."

They don't see the humor. :upset:

On the topic of stupid immature humour, in the spirit of blink of course.
I went out camping with a group of about 3 old friends, and three new friends from school.
When one of the new guys was asleep we took his phone them flimed another guy teabagging then turkey-slapping him. It was rather disturbing at the time, but none the less hilarious. In the morning we showed him, all three of us pissed ourselves for like 2 hours straight, and the three lame new guys were just like, 'that's not funny...'. Assholes, that have NO sence of immature humour.....
Anyways, I just had to vent my frustration, in the form of a random internet post on MX... seemed like a good idea at the time.

...WOO, BLINK!
ONE!
EIGHTY!
TWO!
YEEEAAAAAAHHHH!!!

[bottlerocket]

ROFL THAT'S AWESOME.

Immaturity.

[MattSharpIsCool]

It's full of public school kids :(

Hey! I was a public school kid... :upset:

[poo-poo-pee-pee]

Hey! I was a public school kid... :upset:

I still am... :upset:

Stupid Christian schools...
They wouldn't let me in, just coz I don't believe in thier god.
Fags.

[bottlerocket]

I don't believe in god and I go to Catholic college. I went to Catholic school my entire life.

I'm a Buddhist.

[MattSharpIsCool]

Blasphemer!

Satan will have your soul for that!

/insert cackle

[bottlerocket]

You'd be surprised at how many times I've heard that, actually...

[MattSharpIsCool]

Oh, well....I'm just kidding!

I'm sure some of those Catholics you go to school with are serious, though.

They can be crazy at times.

[bottlerocket]

Everyone of any religion can.

I can honestly say I've met as many "crazy atheists" as I have "crazy religious people." They're in all walks of life.

[MattSharpIsCool]

I'm a Jew. Well, sort of.

I'm not really, because I'm pretty sure you have to be born into it. But I believe in their basic idea, so I just go with it.

[poo-poo-pee-pee]

Everyone of any religion can.

I can honestly say I've met as many "crazy atheists" as I have "crazy religious people." They're in all walks of life.

I'm pretty sure there are crazy people all over the world, despite any sort of relegion, haha.

I guess I'm atheist... I don't really have a religion. Meh.

BLINK IS MY GOD! :eek:

[Untitled]

I don't believe in god and I go to Catholic college. I went to Catholic school my entire life.

I'm a Buddhist.

Same, 'cept im not a buddist.

We even have the same name colleges, but i dont go there now because im in university

[B]

I'm pretty sure there are crazy people all over the world, despite any sort of relegion, haha.

I guess I'm atheist... I don't really have a religion. Meh.

BLINK IS MY GOD! :eek:

maybe you should grow up then

athiest means you dont believe in anything at all

religions arent all about gods and ****

its more about morals

so what, you dont have any morals?

[lunchforthesky]

Im an atheist, i have morals, what's the problem.

[cobert]

Im pretty sure atheism is denying the existence of a higher power, and agnosticism is when youre unsure or more or less dont care, amirite?

This is the deepest conversation this thread has ever seen.

[lunchforthesky]

Pretty much, but as an atheist im still open to offers, i mean if God came and spoke to me tonight id believe, where as a religious person can look at evidence against their beliefs and completely discount it, but thats my biased opinion.

In a way i am an agnostic, i dont completly rule out the existence of some kind of creator, but im 99% sure of it andeven more sure than he doesnt care what we do with our lives.

[cobert]

I guess im agnostic, I dont believe in any gods or higher power or follow a religion, but that doesnt mean I dont have morals.

The thing that upsets me with religion is the people who claim to be christian, but it seems like they dont really believe in god or the bibles teachings, they just use it to get the upper hand in arguments involving morals. I dont see a need to religion to find answers to things, either. Nothing against religious people, only the ones that dont practice and claim to be into their faith.

Out of any religion, Buddhism is te one that never seemed like total bullshit, but I think Ill stay as an agnostic.

[lunchforthesky]

Buddhism seems okay but id still rather make my own decisions not follow someone elses.

What makes me not belive in the first place is that the bible is ridiculous, walking on water, feeding 5000 people with a loaf of bread, an ark that housed two of every animal in the world and survived a global flood that never happened, the world being created in seven days. S'hit like that just doesnt happen in real life.

It annoys me when people are christian but dont follow what it says in the bible. Like one of the ten commandments is keep the sabbath holy, i.e you cant work on a sunday, but how many supposed christians do?

[cobert]

**** THE POSERS

But you really cant model everything after your religion, especially things like that. Our country tries to make all religion equal, and not working on sundays would screw up that muslim guy down the street that needs the cash.

[lunchforthesky]

People should just use the intelligence god has apparently graced them with instead of looking for the answers in a 2000 year old book.

[bottlerocket]

Buddhism seems okay but id still rather make my own decisions not follow someone elses.

That's a good way to put it, but it's much moreso very basic rules. You bassically agreee you won't do this:

Don't kill or cause suffering to any sentient being
Don't speak falsely
Don't steal
No sexual misconduct (adultery, rape, etc.)
Don't take intoxicants that leed to heedlessness

They're called The Five Precepts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Five_Precepts

I think that's stuff basically everybody of good moral conscience can agree with and I follow that stuff anyway, aside from the last one. It doesn't mean intoxicants that lead to psychadellic states, just that lead to heedlessness, like alcohol and cocaine do. Every buddhist I've met said it doens't mean marijuana, but that doesn't mean Buddhists totally condone the use of marijuana.

[cobert]

I pretty much follow those anyway, so yeah, shits fine with me.

[lunchforthesky]

Don't kill or cause suffering to any sentient being


Im not a vegan, so i asumme i fail this.


Don't speak falsely


I lie from time to time, most people do.


Don't steal


I steal music everyday


No sexual misconduct (adultery, rape, etc.)


The only one i dont fail at.


Don't take intoxicants that leed to heedlessness


I get drunk every so often.

So basically im not much of a buddhist seen as i fail the entry qualifications, i still maintain that im not a bad person or anything though.

[bottlerocket]

I do all those too but I want to address this one:

Im not a vegan, so i asumme i fail this.

Actually, in Tibet, farming is difficult so they HAD to eat meat. So no, if you want to study Buddhism, you don't have to be veg, so being vegan is out of the question.

But yeah, back to what I was saying: no one's perfect. I mean, I wouldn't totally consider myself a Buddhist. I'd say I'm studying it.

[B]

Im pretty sure atheism is denying the existence of a higher power, and agnosticism is when youre unsure or more or less dont care, amirite?

This is the deepest conversation this thread has ever seen.

This.

There's a big difference between being agnostic and an athiest.

Gav: there's actually ten precepts but the other five only apply to monks.

I studied Buddhism in school. Buddhism is basically Hinduism light.

[bottlerocket]

Gav: there's actually ten precepts but the other five only apply to monks.

...and therefore don't apply to anyone on here, hence why I omitted them.

O_O

Those are called the Five Precepts.

[lunchforthesky]

This.

There's a big difference between being agnostic and an athiest.



I dont think there is. Almost no one is 100% sure of their not being a God so more Atheists are still Agnostic in that they dont know they just think that there probably isnt a God, its not like we wouldnt change our mind if someone provided any evidence for God or Gods.

[cobert]

Agnosticism is more thinking that if there is a god then its too complex of an idea for humans to grasp, atheism is outright denial of any powers existence.

[lunchforthesky]

But if you think that it is way to complex an idea it is denouncing the legitimacy of any and all religions seen as they are trying to bring God to the people. So it is not far from Atheism because they are denoucing any form of organised religion.

[cobert]

They are both denouncing them, but atheism is saying that there DEFINITELY isnt a god, and Agnosticism is saying that there might be but we will never understand it. Still similar.

[lunchforthesky]

Well i wouldnt say there is 100% definately not a God but i think that one day we will understand it. So i dont know where i fit.

[MattSharpIsCool]

What makes me not belive in the first place is that the bible is ridiculous, walking on water, feeding 5000 people with a loaf of bread, an ark that housed two of every animal in the world and survived a global flood that never happened, the world being created in seven days. S'hit like that just doesnt happen in real life.

Most people see those as metaphors, and don't take them literally, which I think is how they're meant to be taken. I also think some of the stories in the bible are just that, stories, and not really meant to be taken as anything else.

Unfortunately, there are many people who interperet the bible word for word, and that causes problems.

[DJ Ducksauce]

Wow, religion in the blink thread?

What happened to the poopy poo-poo caca? :(

[B]

The catholic religion claims the stories in the bible are metaphorical and are to teach moral lessons.

Unfortunately most people don't actually know this and use the stories to try and prove that catholics are wrong.

There are other strands of christianity that do take the bible literally however, which is sad, although they do make nice stories to read.

[TheBigMachine]

Catholocism when approached open mindedly isn't so bad as people make out. On the whole, most catholics are not hard-line catholics, who interpret the bible word for word. Most catholics understand that alot of the things in the Bible are purely metaphorical, there to serve the purpose of teaching lessons in some way.

However, the same applies to most religions, with the hard line believers seemingly distorting the religions true meaning. Oh the irony.

[MattSharpIsCool]

Sort of like the Vatican.

[yourstruly]

Religion is a waste of time, what the hell do you gain by being religious?. Christians are rediculous, living in fear of something that doesn't exist and spending most of their sundays worshipping a being that can be compared to Santa or the easter bunny. I could say God is an asshole, and I'd like to tie him to a chair and **** his sister in front of him and my life will remain the same. I think you're weak if you have to rely on a set of rules to keep yourself in control or be a good person, all it takes is common sense.

[MattSharpIsCool]

I personally don't see anything wrong with religion on a personal level. It's not about the proof that God exists, it's about the faith that someone is there, and even if he's not, it's sort of like a placebo. If you really believe, chances are good you'll feel better about yourself and do better.

[Apollyon]

Religion is a waste of time, what the hell do you gain by being religious?

When I apply for a job at a place that requires I shave my beard, I can tell them, "I'm Jewish. I can't shave my beard because it's against my beliefs." Then I can keep my face monster and not worry about it.

[TheBigMachine]

Sort of like the Vatican.

Pretty much.

Religion is a waste of time, what the hell do you gain by being religious?. Christians are rediculous, living in fear of something that doesn't exist and spending most of their sundays worshipping a being that can be compared to Santa or the easter bunny. I could say God is an asshole, and I'd like to tie him to a chair and **** his sister in front of him and my life will remain the same. I think you're weak if you have to rely on a set of rules to keep yourself in control or be a good person, all it takes is common sense.

Stupidist comment itt, period.
How can you prove that there is in fact no God?
Thats right.
You cant.
You know that 'most of their sundays', that equates to one hour at mass for the majority of christians/catholics.
And you know that set of rules to be a good person or keep yourself/others in control? It's very alike to the law bro.

Well done, you have successfully proven yourself to be the stupidist, most hypocritical pper. Congratulations.

[Eliminator]

dude he's been the dumbest pper for as long as i can remember

I think you're weak if you have to rely on a set of rules to keep yourself in control or be a good person, all it takes is common sense.

lol

[lunchforthesky]

I dont buy the whole metaphorical thing at all. The stories were always intended by its authors to be absolute fact, were re-written/interpreted by the Roman and Vatican Church as absolute fact. Its only recently that moderate Christians have realised how unbelievable pretty much all of the old testament is and gone for the metaphorical angle, when it just doesnt work.

For example Jesus came to earth to cleanse us of our sins because of Adam and Eve. Of course any normal person can tell you Adam and Eve never happened so i dont really think its feasable that the son of God came to earth and was nailed to a cross and tortured to death all for some metaphorical story about sin.

[TheBigMachine]

Elim:
Pretty much

lunch:
Suit yourself man. Just don't go hating for beliefs like the PP resident dick head up there did.

[10571z]

Religion can have good or bad influences of people. eg. Muslim Extremist's... Or the nice lady who goes to Sunday Church and is always friendly and polite.

It depends person to person. I agree with the 10 commandments. The world would be a better place if people followed them.

Also check this guys youtube account over 200 blink 182 related videos

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=checkminus182

[lunchforthesky]

So the world would be a better place if people were mudered for working on a sunday, cause is pretty much what it says.


lunch:
Suit yourself man. Just don't go hating for beliefs like the PP resident dick head up there did.

Its cool, i can just go to the Politics and News forum where being a dick towards religion is applauded :D

[TheBigMachine]

Yeah man, that forum is bad :(

[lunchforthesky]

haha its great once you realise how to post there.

[10571z]

So the world would be a better place if people were mudered for working on a sunday, cause is pretty much what it says.



Its cool, i can just go to the Politics and News forum where being a dick towards religion is applauded :D

LOL it doesnt say you get murdered.

Im not religious. But ino thats not what it says.

[lunchforthesky]

I believe the line is "keep the sabbath holy", which has always been interpreted by Jews and early/medieval christians as not working, cooking, cleaning or doing anything except going to the synagogue/church etc.. on the sabbath.

The Christian sabbath day is a sunday, therefore all Christians who work on a sunday are breaking one of the ten commandments, the punishment for which is "Utter and complete destruction"

It seems pretty simple to me.

Ironically the classic candidate for working on a Sunday is the vicar himself.

It also says you will be stoned to death for starting a fire on a sunday :) I cant remember if i've ever done that yet.

[Surtr]

I believe the line is "keep the sabbath holy", which has always been interpreted by Jews and early/medieval christians as not working, cooking, cleaning or doing anything except going to the synagogue/church etc.. on the sabbath.

The Christian sabbath day is a sunday, therefore all Christians who work on a sunday are breaking one of the ten commandments, the punishment for which is "Utter and complete destruction"

It seems pretty simple to me.

Ironically the classic candidate for working on a Sunday is the vicar himself.

It also says you will be stoned to death for starting a fire on a sunday :) I cant remember if i've ever done that yet.
I can back the first part. You go to hell for not keeping the sabbath day holy. Though you can still seek redemtion and you won't go to hell. The second part I've never heard of.

[MattSharpIsCool]

I just don't see what's so bad about following the guidelines the bible lays out. The whole book is about being a good person, I don't see a problem with that.

[Surtr]

I just don't see what's so bad about following the guidelines the bible lays out. The whole book is about being a good person, I don't see a problem with that.

Me either, I believe if you follow the basic guidlines of the bible there's nothing wrong at all with it.

I just choose not to, as I don't want to base my beliefs on lies, so instead I basically go by buddism, though not quite. I believe in no higher power, but I'll respect anyone at all about their beliefs, so long as they don't shove them down my throat.

[bottlerocket]

Religion is a waste of time, what the hell do you gain by being religious?. Christians are rediculous, living in fear of something that doesn't exist and spending most of their sundays worshipping a being that can be compared to Santa or the easter bunny. I could say God is an spatula, and I'd like to tie him to a chair and **** his sister in front of him and my life will remain the same. I think you're weak if you have to rely on a set of rules to keep yourself in control or be a good person, all it takes is common sense.

You're an idiot. Don't post anymore.

Thanks.

[lunchforthesky]

I just don't see what's so bad about following the guidelines the bible lays out. The whole book is about being a good person, I don't see a problem with that.

New testament isnt so bad although its built on the premise that jesus was the son of god which i dont accept, but the old testament has an awful morality to it and pretty much centres on God smoting everyone who slightly displeases him.

Also people dont need a book to be a good person, human morality has scarcely improve from the pagan days through the medieval times so it doesnt seem like anything Jesus said has really made much of a difference.

[Surtr]

New testament isnt so bad although its built on the premise that jesus was the son of god which i dont accept, but the old testament has an awful morality to it and pretty much centres on God smoting everyone who slightly displeases him.

Umm..No it doesn't?

Have you ever actually read the bible?

I questioned my belief in god a while back, and decided that before I did anything, I was going to make my own decision, not let what others say influence me. So I went and read the bible to see for myself what was truth and what wasn't. It was actually a very good read, and I really feel after reading it I can safely state my opinion, knowing I can back it up with what I've learned myself, not just from someone else.

God doesn't kill everyone who displeases him at all. It just shows a much darker side to god than what most people.

For ANYONE who's intrested in this at all, I'd really like you all to read "The Last Templar"..And though it's just another Da Vinci Code kinda' book, it is, in my opinion, much better. I liked it mostly not because of the fact it had to do with The Knight's Templar, but more so that it gives you a good view of the bible and the events surrounding the time of it's creation.

Also people dont need a book to be a good person, human morality has scarcely improve from the pagan days through the medieval times so it doesnt seem like anything Jesus said has really made much of a difference.
Again I disagree with you. What Jesus said has made a HUGE difference in the world today. Yes alot of people do many things wrong in the name of god (I.e. "Holy" wars) but so many people do right in the name of god also. I know this family, that's deeply religious, and though I believe all they base their lives on is false, I know that because of this false belief they've done some great things. You may not need god to do right, but most people find an empty hole in them without the belief in a higher power.

If today, we suddenly had the proof that everything the bible is about is false, and that Jesus (Actually know as Jeshua/Joshua/etc. [He wasn't actually named "Jesus Christ" until a while after his death]) would you show it to the world? Destroy the lives of thousands of people? Bring upon pain to every true Christian in the world? I know I wouldn't. I don't agree with it, and I believe it's all been a huge lie, based upon a man who tried to get everyone to get along. Thousands of people have spun more into the tale of Jesus and the truth is now so lost that there's no chance of ever really knowing the truth anymore. But I know that if I had the evidence to tear down Christianity and show them the truth, that they worship a mere man, who did nothing more than what many people do today, I wouldn't do it. Millions of people need the comfort of feeling a higher presence, and if it must be done by a distorted truth, then that is fine with me.


/Massive post.

[lunchforthesky]

Of course ive read the bible, i went to a catholic school. But i havent believed it since i was 10 or around then anyway.

Ive read the Templar Revalations and Holy Blood and Holy Grail. Their too much of a conspiracy for me and seen as i am in no doubt that Jesus was not the son of God im not really bothered whether or not he had a family, a wife or if he existed at all.

[Surtr]

Of course ive read the bible, i went to a catholic school. But i havent believed it since i was 10 or around then anyway.

Ive read the Templar Revalations and Holy Blood and Holy Grail. Their too much of a conspiracy for me and seen as i am in no doubt that Jesus was not the son of God im not really bothered whether or not he had a family, a wife or if he existed at all.

I'm talking about a different book. This doesn't discuss that (Well it does, but that's very brief and not at all the focus of the book).

Jesus was a political figure, not the son of god, he had a family, a wife, kids. He had a brother, named James. But of course, this can't really be proven, or at least few accept it as fact, as it goes against what the bible says.

[Eliminator]

so how about blink 182

[Surtr]

**** Blink..This discuss is 1000x better.

[Eliminator]

no it's not

it's actually really boring and doesn't belong in the feel good rebellion!

[Surtr]

Fine..Everyone download some Hi My Name Is Mark podcasts.

I'm getting a kick outa' listening to Episode #27 right now.

[lunchforthesky]

Again I disagree with you. What Jesus said has made a HUGE difference in the world today. Yes alot of people do many things wrong in the name of god (I.e. "Holy" wars) but so many people do right in the name of god also. I know this family, that's deeply religious, and though I believe all they base their lives on is false, I know that because of this false belief they've done some great things. You may not need god to do right, but most people find an empty hole in them without the belief in a higher power.

The development in human morality in a positive manner is not at all in my opinion related to God. How can it be that religious fevor has decreased from the middle ages yet morality has improved but that the improvement in morality is down to religion. If that weas so then the dark ages would of been the kindest and more moral in history which of course the opposite was true.

Britain, Sweden, Denmark, Holland are the most accpeting and liberal countries in the world yet only 30% of British people even believe in a God and less than 5% of people attend church. The reason were are more moral and we live with better living conditions than ever before in because of an improvement in technology has made life less harsh so people have less concerns, so dont need scapegoats and are generally more educated. If you look at the worst countries in the world for human rights, e.g. Iran, Saudi Arabia, China etc.. these countries except for the stalinist ones destroy human rights due to religious justification. Yes in a Christian country we dont do this as bad anymore but that is only after there has been a decline in religious persuation, 500 years ago when we were as firmly under the grip as they are now we used to treat women like s'hit and slaughter heretics and non believers.

It might give people a lot of comfort. But id sure as hell be prepared to upset people in exchange for mos tof the world from ignorance so they can embrace a liberal and accepting way of thinking.


If today, we suddenly had the proof that everything the bible is about is false, and that Jesus (Actually know as Jeshua/Joshua/etc. [He wasn't actually named "Jesus Christ" until a while after his death]) would you show it to the world? Destroy the lives of thousands of people? Bring upon pain to every true Christian in the world? I know I wouldn't. I don't agree with it, and I believe it's all been a huge lie, based upon a man who tried to get everyone to get along. Thousands of people have spun more into the tale of Jesus and the truth is now so lost that there's no chance of ever really knowing the truth anymore. But I know that if I had the evidence to tear down Christianity and show them the truth, that they worship a mere man, who did nothing more than what many people do today, I wouldn't do it. Millions of people need the comfort of feeling a higher presence, and if it must be done by a distorted truth, then that is fine with me.


/Massive post.

People got over the non existence of Thor, Wotan, Zeus, Zoroathrianism and every other religion that has ever existed, they can get over the none existence of Yahweh too. Modern religions' probably wont last the next 1000 or so years and im sure theyll be replaced by Scientology or some other rubbish.

People can be lied to all they want, thats basically what govenrment does but when it has a negative effect is should be stopped, as is the same with government.

[Surtr]

You don't understand that with the advances we have today, any sort of happening could completely upset the equillibrium of everything we have. If we proved Christianity was wrong in today's age, there's a good chance America would fall..As soon as the U.S.A is done, the rest of the world is, as sad as it sounds.

[lunchforthesky]

haha what??

i dont see why American would collapse and i dont see why the rest of the world would either.

[Surtr]

Because a good portion of American's are Christian. Or at least the main portion of the upper half of America's population.

When people find out everything they lived by, and everything their parents, family and friends lived by, is completely false, they kill themselves, give up on life and just go through it, or choose not to believe it, no matter how much evidence is put there.

Your telling me that wouldn't cause America's economy to collapse?

[Eliminator]

well all of those bible stores will go out of business

no more jesus figurines :(

[lunchforthesky]

Because a good portion of American's are Christian. Or at least the main portion of the upper half of America's population.

When people find out everything they lived by, and everything their parents, family and friends lived by, is completely false, they kill themselves, give up on life and just go through it, or choose not to believe it, no matter how much evidence is put there.

Your telling me that wouldn't cause America's economy to collapse?

What, thats not in the least bit true. People would find it liberating, its not like everyone would accept my proof straight away anyway, it would gradually be phased in like evolution has been.

My mother recently accepted that God was not real and that Christianity was a lie but she doesnt seem to have the urge to kill herself. People would adapt, the majority of people are way too self centred to kill themselves anyway, within 50 years everyone would be over it.

Did Ex-Nazi's kill themselves when (if they ever actually did) realise that Jews were actually a human species and that the Aryan's were not the ultimate race, no they pretty quickly got over it for the most part and moved on. Yet Nazism was followed as staunchly as any religion.

[Surtr]

What, thats not in the least bit true. People would find it liberating, its not like everyone would accept my proof straight away anyway, it would gradually be phased in like evolution has been.

My mother recently accepted that God was not real and that Christianity was a lie but she doesnt seem to have the urge to kill herself. People would adapt, the majority of people are way too self centred to kill themselves anyway, within 50 years everyone would be over it.

Did Ex-Nazi's kill themselves when (if they ever actually did) realise that Jews were actually a human species and that the Aryan's were not the ultimate race, no they pretty quickly got over it for the most part and moved on. Yet Nazism was followed as staunchly as any religion.

Alright.

[poo-poo-pee-pee]

Relegions great until people start taking it too seriously, ie: Crazy *** Muslims who kill themselves for thier 'beliefs'. But until then it's great.
Any Religion really just teaches good living. Don't kill, Don't lie etc. etc. Which is great, but as soon as people start devoting themselves entirely to a church I think it's going to far, but that's just my opinion.
I just stay fully away from all Religions and live the way I think I should live, not how some God(s) says I should.

Anyways, to all the people who got the Plus 44 album, what colour did you get?
I got the green one, but I wanted blue. It was a present.

[cobert]

If you had proof that any religion was all BS nobody would believe you. Even if they did, they probably wouldnt change.

LOL at ignorant people dissing religion and using Muslims as their examples of bad religion.

I personally don't see anything wrong with religion on a personal level. It's not about the proof that God exists, it's about the faith that someone is there, and even if he's not, it's sort of like a placebo. If you really believe, chances are good you'll feel better about yourself and do better.

I pretty much agree with everything youve said in this so far.

I just stay fully away from all Religions and live the way I think I should live, not how some God(s) says I should.

Most religion tells you things you should probably try to follow anyways, just it gives you comfort that theres something bigger than all of us looking down on you.

I dont really believe religion has deeply affected the morals of people. You dont need to be raised under a religion to follow the same set of ideas and moral code. Wars have been started with and without religion involved, and many selfless deeds have been done with and without religion.

If a person gives some homeless person a dollar, although he might be christian, it doesnt mean he had to say 'I SHALL DO RIGHT BY MY GOD AND BESTOW TO THEE A DOLLAR!', maybe he just happened to be the naturally altruistic type. Nice religious people arent necessarily nice just because of their religious beliefs.

[TheBassicBassist]

If a person gives some homeless person a dollar, although he might be christian, it doesnt mean he had to say 'I SHALL DO RIGHT BY MY GOD AND BESTOW TO THEE A DOLLAR!', maybe he just happened to be the naturally altruistic type. Nice religious people arent necessarily nice just because of their religious beliefs.

I'm a christian, but I'm going to have to admit, most religious people, when it all comes down to it, are jerks anyways because they don't know what they're doing and they're too strict too fast and it only pushes people away...if somehow, by some means someone were to disprove christianity, I can safely say, I wouldn't abandon it...I just like being a christian, it's comforting and it just helps me be happier, I'm not quite sure how, but that's just the way it goes, I love the idea of God and everlasting life...call me a moron, that's just the way things go

Anyways, to all the people who got the Plus 44 album, what colour did you get?
I got the green one, but I wanted blue. It was a present.

I got blue...but I didn't care which color I got...just got one

[10571z]

I just don't see what's so bad about following the guidelines the bible lays out. The whole book is about being a good person, I don't see a problem with that.


agreed.

This is an AWSOME watch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWcBm_NCl5c

Also check out other vids by this user.

[MattSharpIsCool]

If a person gives some homeless person a dollar, although he might be christian, it doesnt mean he had to say 'I SHALL DO RIGHT BY MY GOD AND BESTOW TO THEE A DOLLAR!'

Although saying that would make it much more epic.

[Untitled]

I am atheist and dont care for religion, if people care for it, fine, just i dont, and no one i do does. And not many people in the uk do care for it really any more.

[cobert]

Although saying that would make it much more epic.


urrite

[Ross]

I'm borderline atheist, but I guess I'm an agnostic simply cuz I'm open to ideas. I tend to think that most of the holy books for most religions tend to be simply a collection of nice stories that teach better morals to people, but to be honest I don't really give a damn what people think/believe as long as they ain't killing each other over it. Which... is kinda what's been happening since... well... forever.

On another note; this website owns. http://www.landoverbaptist.org/
Oh, and so does this. Be sure to check out the kids section, lolz aplenty. http://objectiveministries.org/

I still haven't bought +44. Might have to, and I'll be getting the pink one if I do.

[Pazz]

Well it looks like this thread needs to have a name change.

New Thread Name = Pop-Punk Religion Thread (With Some Blink 182 on the Side)

[Surtr]

Hahaha yeah pretty much :p

In other news, (+44) > AvA

[lunchforthesky]

Blink 182 > Box Car Racer > Plus 44 > Angels & Airwaves

[Surtr]

With my current tastes..

(+44) > BCR > Blink > AvA

But in reality..

Blink > (+44) > Boxcar Racer > AvA

[TheBassicBassist]

But in reality..

Blink > (+44) > Boxcar Racer > AvA

agreed

[B]

Blink 182 > Box Car Racer > Plus 44 > Angels & Airwaves

truth

[DJ Ducksauce]

How about we just go with Mark>Tom.

[lunchforthesky]

Only since Tom turned into an uber bellend.

I prefer his Blink songs.

[Surtr]

How about we just go with Mark>Tom.

Agreed.:thumb:

[poo-poo-pee-pee]

In blink:
Tom = Mark, true harmony in the world.
Now:
Mark >>> Tom, and Travis is stuck somewhere in the middle.

[Neoteric]

I've always liked Mark better, seems a nicer guy.

[innerdark]

Tom's a douche, Mark's a cool guy, my mate met Mark and Travis and he thinks they're pretty nice guys, but yeah, Tom, douche,

I'd love to see blink get back together, but, it's mor than likely never gonna happen until someone slapssome sense into Tom, and even then, it's extremely unlikely

[Neoteric]

Tom's probably just going into a phase where he feels he needs to "do something different". I think he'll snap out of it and do something again with Blink.

[innerdark]

doubt it, i think Tom will maybe do it after the rest of Ava realise that Tom might do the same to them.

btw Derek, is your postcount permanently at 4000?

[bottlerocket]

In blink:
Tom = Mark, true harmony in the world.
Now:
Mark >>> Tom, and Travis is stuck somewhere in the middle.

Eeeeeexactly.

Tom will never work with blink-182 again. blink-182 is finished, unfortunately.

[Surtr]

Eeeeeexactly.

Tom will never work with blink-182 again. blink-182 is finished, unfortunately.

Gav speaks the truth.

Doesn't matter anyways, Mark's by far the cooler of the two now anyways.

If you have any serious doubt...http://www.himynameismark.com/

Download Podcast #26 (It's pretty funny at the beginning).

[bottlerocket]

Yeah, Tom showed his true color:

YELLOW!

[cobert]

NAME THAT MOVIE:

"On the outside you may be dark as night, but inside....YOU'RE YELLA!"

[British Kid]

NAME THAT MOVIE:

"On the outside you may be dark as night, but inside....YOU'RE YELLA!"
if its the movie im thinking of..... i think its "you are yellah!"

Wild Wild West?

[Surtr]

NAME THAT BOOBIE:

"On the outside you may be dark as night, but inside....YOU'RE YELLA!"

Oh god Cob..Oh god..

Anyways, I'm back to listening to the (+44) album all the time again.

[bottlerocket]

155 is an awesome song. I love that album.

[lissa]

Yeh, 155 is a pretty good song.

Better than any of the A&A songs. The whole album was somewhat of a disappointment.

[Surtr]

"Make You Smile" is up there too..

In fact the only song I really tend to skip is "Lycanthorpe"

[lissa]

Serious? Lycanthrope is one of my favorites on the album.

[Surtr]

I just can't get into it.

By the way, welcome to the forum :)

[10571z]

Chapter 13 is easily the best song on the album IMO.

[Surtr]

No it isn't...."No It Isn't" is..:lol:

[10571z]

I stand corrected. I love that song its hounesty.

[lunchforthesky]

No It Isnt is their best song.

[10571z]

Yep we came to the conclusion.

[lunchforthesky]

fantastic.

[MattSharpIsCool]

I really like Weatherman. That song was so awesome live.

The keyboard part in Little Death is cool too, during the chorus.

[DJ Ducksauce]

My favorite would be 155. I love the electronic feel to it and I love how the chorus sounds.

[Surtr]

Weatherman is an awesome song. One of my favorites for sure, and same with 155. Lillian is also up there too.

No It Isn't still takes the prize though.

[cobert]

if its the movie im thinking of..... i think its "you are yellah!"

Wild Wild West?

Winner.

[Bad Blood]

make you smile is the best

[DJ Ducksauce]

make you smile is the best

Also this.


I wish they had kept the Carol vox in No It Isn't regardless how small a part it was.

[B]

carol was better

[Pazz]

carol was better

/agrees

[B]

yo bro want to come rip a mad sesh lmao

im so bored :(

[Pazz]

yo bro want to come rip a mad sesh lmao

im so bored :(

Lmao, you know who you are asking, right.:p

[B]

lmao yeh of course everyone else lives mad far

except jess but shes probably not feeling too well :p

[Pazz]

I wish I had the car tonight. Then we could just go around or something.

[B]

thatd be sooo sick dude

[Pazz]

yeah, but my sister has the damn car and I don't like driving the van. We will go driving somewhere once my mom lets me drive outside of bowmanville.

[B]

sick

im so bored and time is going by sooo slow damnit

[lunchforthesky]

I noticed today that the keys in 155 sound like artist in the ambulance by Thrice. Not exactly the same but similar.

[bottlerocket]

Stew, you never told me what you thought about me in that thread.

:upset:

[form]

im listening to plus 44 for the first time

cool

[bottlerocket]

What song?

What say you so far?

[Surtr]

Stew, you never told me what you thought about me in that thread.

:upset:

Really..I thought I did..:confused:

I'll get on that, sorry man. :(

ATTN GAV: U r cool, ilu, u r a gud modz n ilu. kthxbye.


Mattay: Whata' ya thinkin' about the (+44)?

[10571z]

Whats everyones fav blink 182 song. Mine would be Stockholm Syndrome or Man Overboard.. But also i just watched this which was awsome. i cant believe it took them over 300 days to make the record

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvLwbNVwRDU

[Surtr]

I watched that a LONG time ago.

[Fire Away]

He's a player, diarreha giver
Tried to grow his hair while friends were listening to Slayer
I would like to find him friday night
Hanging out with mom and trying on his father's tights

I'm liking Dysentary Gary atm.

[Pazz]

Eww, I'm watching that video off of youtube and Tom is singing and it sounds so horrible.

[Surtr]

Eww, I'm watching that video off of youtube and Tom is singing and it sounds so horrible.

There's your problem..


Or actually..

Eww, I'm watching that video off of youtube and Tom is singing and it sounds so horrible.

THERE is your problem. :thumb:

[Pazz]

I actually didn't mind his behaviour in that episode. He was being funny, the normal Tom. Not all serious.

[bottlerocket]

I miss the old Tom.

[Pazz]

Same.:(

[10571z]

As do I. Maybe Mark and Tom will make up in the future. I mean you can't be friends for that long and not fight for your friendship.

[bottlerocket]

I know, seriously.

It's so weird to see them going from making fart jokes and running around naked together to writing songs about "This isn't just goodbye. This is I can't stand you."

[Pazz]

Also on that video that was posted that I watched they were talking about how after their self-titled there was only one way, and it was up.

[bottlerocket]

...and it all came crashing down.

"This is where the road
Crashed into the ocean."

MAN, "NO IT ISN'T" IS SO SAD.

[B]

lol gav youre so hard

[bottlerocket]

I am xtoughx.

If you saw me, you'd probably cower in fear. 6' 130 lbs of pure man.

[Ross]

No It Isn't is probably my favourite song off the CD. If not then Little Death or When Your Heart Stops Beating or maybe Lillian.

Damnit, I love them all.

[lunchforthesky]

Anyone know what if anything the single is going to be.

[poo-poo-pee-pee]

Anyone know what if anything the single is going to be.

When You Heart Stops Beating is their first and current single, and it's doing pretty well here in Australia, not great, but it gets it's fair share of airtime.

As for thier next single, I believe it will be 155. I dunno about anyone else, but my CD came with a sticker saying:
"Featuring the singles:
When Your Heart Stops Beating
and
155"
And at the moment, there is no 155 single available.

[lunchforthesky]

I see. Have they got a video cause i haven't seen it?

[MattSharpIsCool]

I don't think it's been released as a single yet, so no video.

[bottlerocket]

155 is the next single but it hasn't been released yet. Hoppus said something would come out in early 2007, so probably next month.

I'm a bit upset (+44) isn't getting the recognition they deserve. AVA is getting more airtime and attention because Tom was preaching about how revolutionary it would be (It wasn't. He lied.) AND because AVA came out first, so a ton of blink-182 fans pre-ordered the AVA album, which explains the high sales in the first week (They sold like 40,000 more than (+44) in their first week). Furthermore, because AVA came out first and fans were disappointed, I think some fans gave up on Tom and Mark even before they got to hear Mark's new stuff, even though (+44)'s new album had better reviews from critics than AVA's.

(+44) > AVA

[poo-poo-pee-pee]

(+44) > AVA

QFT!

[10571z]

Agreed with i played bass. I bought the AVA album but downloaded the plus 44 which i feel bad about.

Poo Poo Pee Pee are you going to plus 44 at festival hall!

[lunchforthesky]

Does anyone like AVA?

[MattSharpIsCool]

I like them a bit. I prefer +44 but AVA isn't as horrible as a lot of people make it out to be. It does get slightly repetetive, but really, so does +44.

[Pazz]

I don't mind them. But they are nothing like Tom said they would be like.

[form]

il ava

[poo-poo-pee-pee]

I do like AVA, alot. But it really does get repedative, every song sounds so similar to the last. It's a good album to have on in the background.
As for (+44), it's my latest album, so naturally it's the only thing I'm really listening to at the moment, and I love it. It's both a feel good party album (Lycanthrope, When You Heart Stops Beating, 155, Cliff Diving), and a solid rock, almost depressing album. (Little Death, Lillian, Weatherman, Chapter 13).
And it's got No, It Isn't on it, which has been my favourite song for exactly one month tomorrow.
And to 10571z, yes I'm definetly going to the Festival Hall show, they're playing with Unwitten Law whom I've also wanted to see for a while.

[10571z]

And mxpx :)!

But i really hope they release No It Isnt that song would go awsome in the charts. And could have a reallly awsome video clip!

[Fire Away]

MxPx aren't playing at the +44 show, I'm sure

[lunchforthesky]

Really?

I honestly cant stand AVA, not just because of the over hyping Tom gave but because even without the hype i would still find them god awful.

[Ross]

Yeh, they're poo. And I tried so hard to like them... oh well.

[ChodaBoy]

Any idea who the chick is from the When Your Heart Stops Beating video is? She looks familiar, but i cant put my finger on it

[bottlerocket]

I've heard two theories as to why Mark named the song about Tom and the break up of blink-182 "No It Isn't". Supposedly, he wanted one of two (possibly both) things to happen:

"Is that song about Tom?"

"No It Isn't."

or...

Tom: "Angels and Airwaves is the greatest band in history."

Mark: "No It Isn't."

lol

I think the first one's more Mark's style, though.

[lunchforthesky]

How about is it true that Tom hasnt turned into the biggest douchebag in pop punk history?

[bottlerocket]

Yeah, basically.

Tom seriously was my idol when I was in like 5th grade up until 9th grade. I wanted to be like him so badly.

Now, I realize that he's just a tool and that Mark was always the cool one. I've always loved Mark, but I just always looked up to Tom more.

[lunchforthesky]

So many people idolised him.

Seriously what happened, he was a pop punk God and now pretty much no-one likes him, people are even growing to hate his blink songs.

[bottlerocket]

Well, I wouldn't say NO ONE likes him. AVA is making money and are doing well, aren't they? I thought they were a popular band. Maybe I'm wrong. Are they doing awful or something?

I hope (+44) is doing well. They seem to be holding their own.

I still love his blink songs because Tom was still Tom when he wrote them, you know? I think hating the blink songs he wrote is extreme, haha.

[skidrumbum]

i love +44 and i read the review of when your heart stops beeting. and i agree with the fisrt part. tom probably hasnt heard it, hes to busy on his throne covered with ava stickers. in his ava rope with an ava blanket. with ava walls in the room. hes changed and i still love mark and travis. travis is one of mybiggest insperations as a drummer.

[bottlerocket]

Yeah, Tom definitely has changed. Mark and Travis seem to be the same old people, though.

You can tell Mark's the same from his podcast. I love his podcast, haha.

I wanna meet Mark and chill with him. He seems like he'd be a lot of fun.

[lunchforthesky]

Well, I wouldn't say NO ONE likes him. AVA is making money and are doing well, aren't they? I thought they were a popular band. Maybe I'm wrong. Are they doing awful or something?

There next album will bomb pretty hard i think, i dont know there not exactly making huge waves or anything at the moment.


I hope (+44) is doing well. They seem to be holding their own.

I still love his blink songs because Tom was still Tom when he wrote them, you know? I think hating the blink songs he wrote is extreme, haha.

I dont hate his Blink songs myself although i dont much listen to Blink anymore. +44 look to be doing okay but people on the internet make them appear more popular than they are in reality

[bottlerocket]

There next album will bomb pretty hard i think, i dont know there not exactly making huge waves or anything at the moment.

Yeah, I think so, too. The only reason the first album made so many sales is because a bunch of blink-182 fans pre-ordered the album. That's a fact.

I dont hate his Blink songs myself although i dont much listen to Blink anymore. +44 look to be doing okay but people on the internet make them appear more popular than they are in reality

I listen to blink like...daily. I'm listening to them right now, actually (Dude Ranch is playing through...it's at the end of Dammit right now).

+44 doesn't seem to be that popular but I never listen to the radio or watch MTV or anything so I honestly have absolutely no idea.

[B]

i would smoke a mad sesh with mark

i would ash on toms pants

[Ross]

rofl.

Mark was always my favourite, since all the girls like Tom. And I was waaaaay too scene to be one of the popular guys <_<

[poo-poo-pee-pee]

Yeah, basically.

Tom seriously was my idol when I was in like 5th grade up until 9th grade. I wanted to be like him so badly.

Now, I realize that he's just a tool and that Mark was always the cool one. I've always loved Mark, but I just always looked up to Tom more.

Yeah, that's the same with me.
Tom was my idol for like 8 years of my life, now I think he's a total douche.
Mark was always cool, and still is, but I never idolised him.
It's weird...

[10571z]

Everyone loved Tom. So many kids at the blink concerts with there lip rings, fringes, chucks and dickies shorts. The thing that shitted me the most was Tom talked them up SO much and i was counting down the days till it was released. And it was poo. I agree with everyone hear i think Tom is a fair douche.

[MattSharpIsCool]

I think Tom made a bad choice in hyping AVA so much. But honestly, think about it. He'd been playing the same music for 15 years of whatever. He gets the chance to make a different type of music, and AVA is born. He was excited about his new style of music, and made a dumb comment about it.

99% of us in this thread would have done the exact same thing if we had the choice (ie: in Tom's shoes). I still think that is the only reason some people don't like AVA, because he made that statement, and those people think he's soley responsible for Blink breaking up.

I'm not saying that's any of you guys, although it could easily be. But hating on AVA really is the "scene" thing to do.

[bottlerocket]

I agree hating AVA is the cool thing to do, but I legit just don't enjoy their music and think Tom made a big mistake in hyping them up so much.

You're right, though, about him being able to make different music, but what about BCR? It was more of a general progression than just a random "OK, FINALLY I great a break from these tools," you know?

[10571z]

I thought all you guys liked them and i thought they were liked alot. I truely hate them. They havent worked for there fame. And there are 1000's of bands out on the clubs circut who are 1000 times better. AvA dont deserve to be playing big staduim shows.

[lunchforthesky]

By that logic neither do plus 44 whom everyone loves.

[B]

i hate them too haha

[bottlerocket]

By that logic neither do plus 44 whom everyone loves.

lol, seriously. I'm with you on that one.

I don't think its about "working for fame," it's just making good music. AVA doesn't do that while (+44) does. That's how I see it, anyway.

[Ross]

I agree hating AVA is the cool thing to do, but I legit just don't enjoy their music and think Tom made a big mistake in hyping them up so much.

Couldn't agree more. I like Tom, although I think he's been a bit of a douche, but God alone knows how many times I listened to the AvA CD. I just plain, simple, could not get into it. It did nothing for me at all.

[Untitled]

Its crap and toms a ****.

[Ross]

Rofl. Well I don't like Matt Bellamy :p

[Untitled]

Yeah, well i dont like you :mad: :p

[10571z]

By that logic neither do plus 44 whom everyone loves.

I dont think Plus 44 deserve there fame. But they are ALOT better then AVA

[lunchforthesky]

Agreed.

WYHSB is a good album but mad overated.

[ThisUserIsAPipebomb]

He rubs his dick in broken glass.

[poo-poo-pee-pee]

When you ****ed grandpa did he tell you that he loved you?

That songs fun to play, haha.

[Virus278]

There next album will bomb pretty hard i think


They announced that they're definitely going to release a second album?

[lunchforthesky]

ha with Tom's ego i sure think so.

[MattSharpIsCool]

I don't see why they wouldn't release a second album. You gotta realize this isn't a side project like Boxcar, this is Tom's new band. It has nothing to do with his "ego", it's natural for a band to release a second album after their first.

[lunchforthesky]

I would think so. I cant see it not sucking but ill happily give it a try.

[10571z]

Yeh same. Hopefully he doesnt talk it up.

[DJ Ducksauce]

So, if you go to the +44 they have an electronic WYHSB remix on the playlist. It's pretty fun.

[lunchforthesky]

^^ That was pretty cool, kind of what i htought they would be like when we first heard about +44

[Virus278]

I don't see why they wouldn't release a second album. You gotta realize this isn't a side project like Boxcar, this is Tom's new band. It has nothing to do with his "ego", it's natural for a band to release a second album after their first.

Oh ya, i see what you mean. I hope it's better than their first album but after Tom released "Stars of Bethlehem" or whatever I kinda lost all faith in AVA. I was willing to give AVA a second chance but Tom just ended up making another sucky song.

[10571z]

So, if you go to the +44 they have an electronic WYHSB remix on the playlist. It's pretty fun.

yeh i heard the a while ago it rawks!

[punkfan92]

dude i toatlly agree. I lost all hope when he released that stars of bethleham. he hyped it up calling it the best song he had ever written and it wasted 8 minutes of my life.

[MattSharpIsCool]

I thought that was a pretty good song.

What don't you guys like about it?

The intro drags a bit, but other than that, I like it.

[lunchforthesky]

Tom is an awful singer that works only in Blink and some Boxcar Racer, AVA whilst awful for other reasons, do not at all suit his voice.

[MattSharpIsCool]

I think he's improved his singing enough. He may not be great live, but he sounds decent enough on the albums.

And I don't see why his voice doesn't fit with AVA. It's still nothing but pop music, and Tom has a very pop-rock-ish voice.

[punkfan92]

if you have ever heard tom sing live you know that he probably has to sing each song a billion times in a studio to get all his songs right. when he sings live you cant understand what he is saying and just sounds terrible.

[10571z]

I Disagree. I reckon his a decent singer with a unique voice. And live he sounded good when i saw blink 182.

[punkfan92]

i heard him live once and he was terrible. it didnt sound at all like it was on the record. i thought maybe it was just a bad night but i checked out other live videos of them and they were just as bad. if you can reccomend a video where he sings well ill watch it and give him another chance. but for now i think his singing live is terrible.

[lunchforthesky]

Hes a bad singer live but hes an even worse guitarist the amount of f'uck ups he manages on really simple songs is laughable.

[punkfan92]

i havent heard him screw up on guitar and he writes pretty good riffs (great riffs in my opinion) but people do mention him being very sloppy when he plays.

[MattSharpIsCool]

Tom seems to have good days and bad days. I've heard or watched live stuff where he sounds terrible, and some where he sounds pretty decent.

I'm pretty sure Tom had a habit of performing drunk (maybe even high, I dont know if he was into that) when he was in Blink. I've seen more than a couple videos of him trashed, which doesn't help.

[lunchforthesky]

There catchy but really easy and simple, he cant even play i miss you and sing.

[MattSharpIsCool]

I dont know what videos you've seen, but I've seen plenty vids of him playing and singing just fine.

[lunchforthesky]

Ive seen them live four times.

[punkfan92]

listen to him sing obvious on aol
i dont know if it is just me but i thought that sucked

[lunchforthesky]

The AOL sessions?
i think ive seen them, its embaressing to watch its so bad.

[MattSharpIsCool]

Ive seen them live four times.

I'm not saying he's a great singer, because he's not. But he can at least carry a tune and play his guitar.

[lunchforthesky]

Honestly is sooo bad at playing guitar, everything criticises him for being bad but he really is abysmal. He played so many dead notes in the whats my age again intro, cant play i miss you properly live, on stockholm syndrome he only plays the high part live as he cant play both that and the low part.

His singing passes now but when i saw them in 2001/02 it was so awful, like buddha quality.

[B]

meh he does what he does and he made millions

he may be bad but he knows what hes doing

[DJ Ducksauce]

Neither Mark nor Tom sing live well from the vids I've seen. Mark is always a little off key as usual, and Tom gets all over the place and slurs a lot as is typical of him.

They both write/wrote good music.

I heard The War on the radio this morning and surprisingly I didn't go "boy that sucked". It reminded me a bit of BCR which was nice. :) First time in a while I think I've admired some of Tom's work.

[B]

box car racer makes me so nostalgic(sp)

[DJ Ducksauce]

Indeed.

Same with Enema and TOYPAJ.

Man, all this is making me sad with nostalgia. :(


I'm going to go put on WDNTW just for the heck of it.

[Virus278]

I thought that was a pretty good song.

What don't you guys like about it?

The intro drags a bit, but other than that, I like it.

Ya, it’s not really that bad. It’s actually pretty catchy and uplifting. Tom just made it out to be really epic but it was just another one of his really simplistic formats so it kind of let me down and annoyed me.

Tom just came up with some electronic tune, repeated it about 1000 times, and then he threw in some vocals just for the sake of having vocals. The only difference between this song and the songs on the album is that this song is like 8 minutes long. I don’t know where the quote is but didn’t he say something like it had like 3 different parts that “took you up and down” or something like that? 3 parts: 1. Four minutes of the same electronic pattern 2. Chanting like a retard 3.Throwing in some decent lyrics. I guess he just thought this song was really epic just because he made this one 8 minutes long.

[poo-poo-pee-pee]

i havent heard him screw up on guitar and he writes pretty good riffs (great riffs in my opinion) but people do mention him being very sloppy when he plays.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3bLXG-QXhk

- Tom, at his worst. He doesn't sing in this, but he ****s up on the G-tar, bad, many times. (listen to the 'slow pretty part' - Mark)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtWOkkhhKcE

- Whole band, at thier best. This was an awsome proformance (If you ignore the annoying presenters.) And Travis only had one foot!

[MattSharpIsCool]

I only heard two missed notes in the "slow pretty part", and that's a pretty easy part of the song to mess up. He had a bad note in the intro too, but eh. Good days and bad days, yo.

Lady: You, sir, need a pedicure. What happened?

Travis: My foot got stuck in Tom's butt.

:lol: Thats the greatest thing Travis has ever said.

[poo-poo-pee-pee]

I only heard two missed notes in the "slow pretty part", and that's a pretty easy part of the song to mess up. He had a bad note in the intro too, but eh. Good days and bad days, yo.

Lady: You, sir, need a pedicure. What happened?

Travis: My foot got stuck in Tom's butt.

:lol: Thats the greatest thing Travis has ever said.

Oh, he ****s up alot more than that.

Anyone who plays guitar, listen to this, it's sad. Even his powerchords in the chorus sounds horrible. They sounds so... weak. It's just a pathetic proformance. But, 'eh. He's done some damn good ones too.

[MattSharpIsCool]

Ya I guess there are a few more mess ups on second listen. I'm not sure the powerchords are his fault though. His guitar sounds really quiet throughout that whole song.

[10571z]

Hahha the whats my age again vid was pretty bad for tom.. but trav and mark played awsome!

[Surtr]

The "I Miss You" video was insane. Awesome stuff.

I'm actually listening to S/T as we speak..:eek:

[B]

man that video wasnt even that bad

he screwed up a few times so what

[punkfan92]

i have seen the rock show and i miss you video but i haven't seen the whats my age again video. man he sucked so bad on that. the "slow pretty" part is the best part of the song and he really ****s it up.

[Pazz]

Yeah I noticed a few off notes. But that is expected when playing live, is it not?

[lunchforthesky]

He should be able to play something that simple. I dont expect Dillinger Escape Plan but he should be able to play that.

[punkfan92]

yeah it wasnt exactly a hardcore solo. it was just a nice easy to play guitar riff. he shoudnt screw up that many times in one song at any show in my opinion. writes great riffs just needs to practice more.

[Surtr]

See that was the cool thing about Blink, Tom ****in' up simple stuff made it funny.

[MattSharpIsCool]

I think it would be pretty easy to mess that part up. They were playing it faster than they normally do, and that's a lot of picking. The one thing Tom has is pretty good pick control, but even that is just tough to play at that speed.

[lunchforthesky]

Do you actually play guitar? If so you must be really really bad.

[Pazz]

That was really sick version of The Rock Show though.

[MattSharpIsCool]

Ya I am really bad. What's that matter?

I never said Tom was a good guitar player. All I said is at the speed they're playing, a mistake in that part of the song isnt all that farfetched. He flubbed up two notes, big deal, it happens.

[bottlerocket]

My foot got stuck in Tom's butt.

OH MY GOD I WANT MARK'S BASS IN THE PEPSI SMASH VIDEO. THAT THING IS SO GORGEOUS.

[lunchforthesky]

Ya I am really bad. What's that matter?

I never said Tom was a good guitar player. All I said is at the speed they're playing, a mistake in that part of the song isnt all that farfetched. He flubbed up two notes, big deal, it happens.

Its not a huge deal but to say he's been playing nearly 15 years its pretty bad.

I woudnt do that and ive been playing four.

[MattSharpIsCool]

I'm going to start using that.

I like in the video, Travis says that, and the girl looks like she's in shock for a second. Mark laughs and tries to hold it in. Haha that's my favorite video.

[bottlerocket]

Mark and Tom were NOT expecting that one.