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TheBigMachine
09-01-2006, 10:49 PM
Thanks dude.

Kif
09-01-2006, 10:57 PM
http://www.plusfortyfour.com/+44_Lycanthrope.mp3

Incase you guys wanna download it.

yourstruly
09-01-2006, 11:00 PM
It's pretty good, sounds alot like a self titled song..

Pazz
09-01-2006, 11:02 PM
I just downloaded it. Going to listen to it in a second.

yourstruly
09-01-2006, 11:05 PM
I don't know why they called it Lycanthrope though, does Mark suffer from Lycanthropey? haha

Pazz
09-01-2006, 11:07 PM
Not to bad. I still perfered No It Isn't

Kif
09-02-2006, 12:48 AM
It does sound a little generic, but it's still pretty catchy I think. I like the lyrics too, Mark's vocabulary is obviously getting better.

Both songs haven't impressed me as much as I had hoped they would.

Untitled
09-02-2006, 05:34 AM
OMG his bass isnt all root notes.

Converge
09-02-2006, 05:38 AM
I like it better then No It Isnt.

Untitled
09-02-2006, 05:41 AM
I think thats a million times better the no it isnt.

yourstruly
09-02-2006, 05:56 AM
http://www.artistdirect.com/nad/window/media/player/video/0,,3757919,00.html

hahaha, Tom is such a ****ing douchebag

Pazz
09-02-2006, 10:24 AM
I think's he is some kind of superstar.:\

ChodaBoy
09-02-2006, 03:24 PM
That was truely dogshit, I dont know what hes thinking of lately.

WheatThins69
09-02-2006, 09:57 PM
blink182 is not good. their drummer Travis is good but thats it. the gay guitarist tells the crowd to shut up so he can play that easy whats my age again intro.

formofshark
09-02-2006, 09:59 PM
123

lunchforthesky
09-02-2006, 10:00 PM
http://www.artistdirect.com/nad/window/media/player/video/0,,3757919,00.html

hahaha, Tom is such a ****ing douchebag

a&a are truly awful. it didnt matter that he cant sing in blink :/

B
09-02-2006, 10:04 PM
blink182 is not good. their drummer Travis is good but thats it. the gay guitarist tells the crowd to shut up so he can play that easy whats my age again intro.
LOL GUYS QUIET THIS IS HARD ****Z MAN

MARK: ROFL MAN FUKIN NOOB SHUT UP I PLAY CAROUSEL AND MAD ROOT NOTES AND SHI MAN

TRAVIS: LOL I PLAY WITH JAZZ BRUSHES :HXC: MY HEAD IS SO FAR UP MY *** I MIGHT ACTUALLY BE INSIDE OUT OMG I SOUND LIKE TOM LOL WERE ALL INSIDE BUT MARK LOL

Surtr
09-02-2006, 11:22 PM
LOL GUYS QUIET THIS IS HARD ****Z MAN

MARK: ROFL MAN FUKIN NOOB SHUT UP I PLAY CAROUSEL AND MAD ROOT NOTES AND SHI MAN

TRAVIS: LOL I PLAY WITH JAZZ BRUSHES :HXC: MY HEAD IS SO FAR UP MY *** I MIGHT ACTUALLY BE INSIDE OUT OMG I SOUND LIKE TOM LOL WERE ALL INSIDE BUT MARK LOL
Huh? Was that supposed to be funny :confused:

...I kinda' almost don't think this is (+44)..I don't recall recording this song!

Jk..But what's up with the girl singing? They don't have a girl in their band anymore!

yourstruly
09-02-2006, 11:30 PM
the gay guitarist tells the crowd to shut up so he can play that easy whats my age again intro.it's just a joke..

Surtr
09-02-2006, 11:33 PM
blink182 is not good. their drummer Travis is good but thats it. the gay guitarist tells the crowd to shut up so he can play that easy whats my age again intro.
Metallica, amirite? :rolleyes:

PDWAB
09-03-2006, 12:07 AM
blink182 is not good. their drummer Travis is good but thats it. the gay guitarist tells the crowd to shut up so he can play that easy whats my age again intro.


Bring all Blink 182 related discussion here. Any flaming will result in a permanent ban.


Well looky here. But I'll go easy and give you a three day just cuz I'm nice.

DJ Ducksauce
09-03-2006, 12:14 AM
I <3 Joel. :-*

Anyways, the new P44 is pretty tight. I'll give it a few more good listens later on so I can get a good feel for it.

Bad Blood
09-03-2006, 04:57 AM
New?!?!!?!?

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

someone send plzplzplzplz kk

poo-poo-pee-pee
09-03-2006, 05:15 AM
I dunno 'bout you guys, but I think Lycanthrope might be about the blink break up as well, I mean look at the lyrics:

"I wake up at the end of a long, dark, lonely year
It's bringing out the worst in me
I hear your voice start breaking in fear
When the lights go down

And I still feel you looking over my shoulder
Your sinking guilt and approaching nightmare
And I know none of us will survive
Because I know everything"

And then what I believe to bethe chorus:

"You can just stop talking, I get it
I hear your silence loud and clear
I know it's barely a thought but it'll see us through
I'm only setting you free so just let it happen
Just let it happen, no need to fear
Yeah you can just stop talking, I get it"

Bad Blood
09-03-2006, 05:16 AM
how many new songs are there?

yourstruly
09-03-2006, 05:23 AM
how many new songs are there?just the one

I dunno 'bout you guys, but I think Lycanthrope might be about the blink break up as well, I mean look at the lyrics:

"I wake up at the end of a long, dark, lonely year
It's bringing out the worst in me
I hear your voice start breaking in fear
When the lights go down

And I still feel you looking over my shoulder
Your sinking guilt and approaching nightmare
And I know none of us will survive
Because I know everything"

And then what I believe to bethe chorus:

"You can just stop talking, I get it
I hear your silence loud and clear
I know it's barely a thought but it'll see us through
I'm only setting you free so just let it happen
Just let it happen, no need to fear
Yeah you can just stop talking, I get it"

yeah I thought so too, I was just confused because the song is called Lycanthrope..

Bad Blood
09-03-2006, 05:31 AM
oh right, so it's the one in the background on http://www.plusfortyfour.com

Fire Away
09-03-2006, 06:10 AM
The new one reminds me a little bit of something off Relient K's "Mmhmm".

Bad Blood
09-03-2006, 06:11 AM
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=7782103E765E079C

I upped it for anyone who wants it.

Kif
09-03-2006, 06:39 AM
I think Travis gets too much credit for being a good drummer. A lot of his fills are pretty bland, although some of them are good. I liked his work in Transplants more.

lunchforthesky
09-03-2006, 07:26 AM
he looks good because tom and mark are so awful.


but theres far better drummers in other styles of music.

Surtr
09-03-2006, 09:19 AM
he looks good because tom and mark are so awful.


but theres far better drummers in other styles of music.
No way. I can say, being a drummer myself Travis has skill. It's not because Mark and Tom aren't that good that he looks awesome, it's because he is awesome.

lunchforthesky
09-03-2006, 11:04 AM
hes good im sure.

but i cant believe hes better than the guys in between the buried and me, the red chord, suffocation etc..

i think their better. but travis is one of the best in pop punk.

Pazz
09-03-2006, 01:00 PM
Well looky here. But I'll go easy and give you a three day just cuz I'm nice.

Joel's a tank.

We are so used to people coming in here and bashing Blink, we usually just ignore them.

Eliminator
09-03-2006, 01:02 PM
hes good im sure.

but i cant believe hes better than the guys in between the buried and me, the red chord, suffocation etc..

i think their better. but travis is one of the best in pop punk.

Yeah those bands are like, AMAZING.

cobert
09-03-2006, 02:18 PM
rofl hay guyz im mark hoppus i rly rly hate tom lolz

B
09-03-2006, 02:24 PM
I think Travis gets too much credit for being a good drummer. A lot of his fills are pretty bland, although some of them are good. I liked his work in Transplants more.
124

Or the Aquabats.

Storm In A Teacup
09-03-2006, 04:24 PM
I get emotional when I watch the video for "Stay Together For The Kids."

Bad Blood
09-03-2006, 05:26 PM
lol u gurl

I don't really get emotional listening to Blink, I used to a bit.

Storm In A Teacup
09-03-2006, 05:42 PM
Snowball? Why the name change?

And it is moving! :mad:

Bad Blood
09-03-2006, 05:45 PM
lolol

yeah, I originally had this name, and I kinda prefer it to Snowball Fight! so I thought why not haha.

Storm In A Teacup
09-03-2006, 05:47 PM
Haha. Well, I'll just call you Ben. :)

I can't wait for what Mark and Travis put out together.

Bad Blood
09-03-2006, 05:49 PM
that's cool with me :cool:

yeah, im interested in what it'll sound like, but after that song, i dunno how it's gonna be.

Storm In A Teacup
09-03-2006, 05:53 PM
I haven't heard anything from them....my computer sucks to much to stream music.

Bad Blood
09-03-2006, 05:55 PM
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=7782103E765E079C

check that shi, that's one of the songs. Have you heard No It Isn't?

Storm In A Teacup
09-03-2006, 06:02 PM
I <3 Ben! I haven't heard of that either.

Bad Blood
09-03-2006, 06:04 PM
rofl

i'll up it now, won't take a sec. :)

Bad Blood
09-03-2006, 06:06 PM
hxxp://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=400BDAC84BD66E07

The quality isn't great, but this song is awesome :)

This is thought to be about the Blink break up/Tom being a douche.
Bearing this in mind, the song means a lot more and adds to the song itself.

Storm In A Teacup
09-03-2006, 06:10 PM
I'll download it tomorrow, or later today. I still haven't finished d/l the first one and when it's done my mom needs a phone.

But for now: +rep for u.

Bad Blood
09-03-2006, 06:11 PM
It's only 1mb, it'll take like 30secs or so.

:)

edit: woop 6 points :D

Storm In A Teacup
09-03-2006, 06:15 PM
1mb will take like five-minutes, or possibly more for my cp actually. :-\

So that's my rep weight. Weak. >:-[

Bad Blood
09-03-2006, 06:17 PM
Haha, crikey, ah well.

Something to look forward to eh :p

Storm In A Teacup
09-03-2006, 06:22 PM
I clicked open, but it didn't go on itunes and I can't find a file for it. :confused:

I must get off now though. Catch you later.

Bad Blood
09-03-2006, 06:23 PM
It should open : /

Later

Storm In A Teacup
09-03-2006, 07:45 PM
I found the file and added it to iTunes and have downloaded No It Isn't. Listening to the first song now. :)

Storm In A Teacup
09-03-2006, 07:56 PM
Those were both enjoyable songs. The female vocals were cool on "Not It Isn't." However, it seems like they could do a lot better. I was actually also hoping for something other than pop-punk.

yourstruly
09-03-2006, 08:05 PM
Plus 44 are basically just Blink without Toms input..

Storm In A Teacup
09-03-2006, 08:07 PM
I agree.

MattSharpIsCool
09-03-2006, 08:53 PM
Tom thinks he's a lot better than he actually is, but I still think AVA is a decent band. I do think a lot of people are coming down harder on him than they should because they're mad that Blink broke up, and he's getting a lot of the blame. I'm definitely looking forward to Plus 44 more, but I still like AVA a bit.

DJ Ducksauce
09-03-2006, 08:56 PM
We're not really mad because of the break up. After hearing The Adventure, I was stoked for AVA. I personally am a bit upset with the fact that he built up all of this anxiety, and then didn't live up to it.

I'm hoping for better things with P44.

poo-poo-pee-pee
09-04-2006, 02:15 AM
I dunno about you guys, but pick two AVA songs, then the two realesed Plus 44 songs, then play them together like:

AVA
+44
AVA
+44

...Sounds like the first four tracks of a new blink album to me.

yourstruly
09-04-2006, 06:02 AM
nah

Everlong241
09-05-2006, 02:17 AM
Doesn't sound like it.

Eliminator
09-05-2006, 06:23 AM
Angels and Airwaves would be good if they didn't suck so much.

Another inspiring post courtesy of Eliminator.

TheBigMachine
09-05-2006, 06:40 AM
As for the track thing, I dont think it does...

yourstruly
09-05-2006, 06:55 AM
I've been watching all these Tom Delonge interviews and AVA interveiws, and i've somehow managed to see where Tom is coming from, with the whole Blink break up and what he's trying to do with his new band.

Bad Blood
09-05-2006, 03:38 PM
wehey, there's number 1 on the tally

:p

jkjkjk

Storm In A Teacup
09-05-2006, 04:40 PM
I don't mind AVA, actually. I just am not a believer in the supposed fact that they're the greatest rock band of all time.

Bad Blood
09-05-2006, 05:08 PM
Me too, I really like them, at the minute, they're one of the only bands that I'm not finding myself bored with.

Storm In A Teacup
09-05-2006, 05:26 PM
Yeah, it just took a while to grow on me and now it has.

I'm in love with Plus 44. Even though it's only two songs.

chumpradio
09-05-2006, 05:35 PM
I'm in love with the 2 +44 songs as well.
They are playing a one off show in London, which sucks seeing as it's the opposite side of the country for me.
I also saw a big list of US tour dates, so check them out. Looks like they are playing small venues.

Storm In A Teacup
09-05-2006, 05:38 PM
Tulsa, Oklahoma anywhere?

16 Nipples
09-05-2006, 06:00 PM
I dont think AvA deserve all the flaming they have been getting. Sure Tom built it up waay too much but hey, its Tom Delonge- he said the last Blink album was like the second coming of Christ. Some people take him too literally. Also, people have generally regarded their album as a failure which I think is bull****. I just listened to the whole album and if you are in the right mood and place then it is ****in awsome. On first listen it can sound a bit 'samey' the whole way through, but after a few listens it is great if you are feeling like it.

I have to say i respect Tom alot for taking such a big step. He wants to do bigger things with his life and one thing he doesn't lack is ambition. He wants to take a new route and explore and that's exactly what hes doing. Obviously i miss Blink tons but its over and I dont think it would be same if they reunited at all. As for Plus 44, I cant wait to hear more, I love what Mark and Travis are doing. I just remembered how great Marks voice is. These are exciting times.......

yourstruly
09-05-2006, 06:07 PM
New Plus 44 tour dates

10.14
Cal Poly Athletic Field.
Pomona, CA United States

10.15
Soma
San Diego, CA United States

10.18
Roseland Theatre
Portland, OR United States

10.19
The Fenix Underground Inc.
Seattle, WA United States

10.22
The Fillmore
San Francisco, CA United States

10.24
In The Venue
Salt Lake City, UT United States

10.25
Ogden Theatre
Denver, CO United States

10.27
The Quest
Minneapolis, MN United States

10.28
The Rave
Milwaukee, WI United States

10.29
Mississippi Nights
Saint Louis, MO United States

10.31
Metro
Chicago, IL United States

11.01
Bogart's
Cincinnati, OH United States

11.03
White Rabbit
San Antonio, TX United States

11.04
La Zona Rosa
Austin, TX United States

11.05
Gypsy Tea Room & Ballroom
Dallas, TX United States

11.06
Warehouse Live
Houston, TX United States

11.08
Jannus Landing
Saint Petersburg, FL United States

11.09
House of Blues
Lake Buena Vista, FL United States

11.10
Roxy Theatre
Atlanta, GA United States

11.13
9:30 Club
Washington, DC United States

11.14
Bowery Ballroom
New York, NY United States

11.17
Webster Hall
New York, NY United States

11.18
Maxwell's
Hoboken, NJ United States

11.19
Avalon Ballroom
Boston, MA United States

DJ Ducksauce
09-05-2006, 09:16 PM
11.04
La Zona Rosa
Austin, TX United States

:D

Any news on who they're with?

Storm In A Teacup
09-05-2006, 09:20 PM
Nowhere near. :upset:

yourstruly
09-05-2006, 09:36 PM
They're closer to you than they are to me :(

:D

Any news on who they're with?don't think so

EDIT: This was posted on plus44online.com

Rumors are floating around the internet about Plus 44 shooting a video.

"The single is also called When Your Heart Stops Beating the video is being shot on 8/9th Sept and will be delivered on 21st. "

DJ Ducksauce
09-05-2006, 09:38 PM
Aw, k.

Anyways, I'm hoping I can get my parents to let me go.

Storm In A Teacup
09-05-2006, 09:44 PM
I hope the vocals are like on "Lyncanthorpe". The way Mark accentuates parts of his vocals is orgasmic.

DJ Ducksauce
09-05-2006, 09:46 PM
I'm digging the P44.

I hope the rest of the album is good.

yourstruly
09-05-2006, 09:54 PM
I wanna hear more, because so far they've only released poppyish songs and I wanna hear their heavier songs

Storm In A Teacup
09-05-2006, 10:03 PM
More stuff like "Stay Together For The Kids". I cry when I listen to that song.

B
09-05-2006, 10:03 PM
I wanna hear more, because so far they've only released poppyish songs and I wanna hear their heavier songs
hahaha they won't have heavy songs.

yourstruly
09-05-2006, 10:28 PM
no one will know for sure until the album comes out

B
09-05-2006, 10:32 PM
A pop-punk/pop-rock band won't have heavy songs.

formofshark
09-05-2006, 10:46 PM
yeah lolwtf @ heavy songs

i still havent heard any +44, im not expecting anything awesome, so im just gonna wait until it comes out to listen

idk

yourstruly
09-06-2006, 05:45 AM
what the ****?, I said heavier songs, not "heavy" songs. They said in an interview that their album is really diverse..

Ross
09-06-2006, 05:53 AM
I hope they sound like SLAYER!

lawl.

I'm looking forward to this album much more than I was AvA. Diverse is good, and AvA's CD lacked anything I could get into. And I listened to it so so SO many times.

yourstruly
09-06-2006, 06:06 AM
I'm looking forward to it alot more aswell. With AVA it was like "meh,whatever', but with Plus 44 i'm actually excited to go out and buy the record.

Dies Irae
09-06-2006, 06:08 AM
I dont think AvA deserve all the flaming they have been getting. Sure Tom built it up waay too much but hey, its Tom Delonge- he said the last Blink album was like the second coming of Christ. Some people take him too literally. Also, people have generally regarded their album as a failure which I think is bull****. I just listened to the whole album and if you are in the right mood and place then it is ****in awsome. On first listen it can sound a bit 'samey' the whole way through, but after a few listens it is great if you are feeling like it.

I have to say i respect Tom alot for taking such a big step. He wants to do bigger things with his life and one thing he doesn't lack is ambition. He wants to take a new route and explore and that's exactly what hes doing. Obviously i miss Blink tons but its over and I dont think it would be same if they reunited at all. As for Plus 44, I cant wait to hear more, I love what Mark and Travis are doing. I just remembered how great Marks voice is. These are exciting times.......

Why would I listen to Angels and Airwaves when I can just as easily listen to U2 and Blink-182 at the same time?

yourstruly
09-06-2006, 06:21 AM
LiEk OMG YeW iZ tEh OriGnl

Ross
09-06-2006, 06:22 AM
To be honest, he's right.

And I repeat, I really REALLY tried to like AvA.

Dies Irae
09-06-2006, 06:24 AM
liek omg that's teh orignlz comback of the sentry!

brb guys i have to go suck tom's dick

TheBigMachine
09-06-2006, 06:37 AM
Nevermind our new zealender friend, he seems to have a personal disliking for Tom and anyone who tries to give him a fair go.

Ross
09-06-2006, 06:40 AM
liek omg that's teh orignlz comback of the sentry!

brb guys i have to go suck tom's dick

Now that's just out of order. Grow the f'uck up.

TheBigMachine
09-06-2006, 06:42 AM
Guys, relax...It's the blink thread for chirssake.

yourstruly
09-06-2006, 07:05 AM
Nevermind our new zealender friend, he seems to have a personal disliking for Tom and anyone who tries to give him a fair go.
Why would I listen to Angels and Airwaves when I can just as easily listen to U2 and Blink-182 at the same time?
LiEk OMG YeW iZ tEh OriGnl

If anything, I was defending Tom..and was pointing out how lame and unoriginal the U2/AVA comparison is..

Ross
09-06-2006, 07:07 AM
I keep listening to that cover of The Longest Line (a NOFX song) Blink did on Flyswatter. I never thought it would be possible, but Tom (or Mark?) was flatter than Fat Mike on that track :rolleyes:

yourstruly
09-06-2006, 07:10 AM
they should've had Tom sing that song, Toms voice was kinda similiar to fattys back then

TheBigMachine
09-06-2006, 07:11 AM
If anything, I was defending Tom..and was pointing out how lame and unoriginal the U2/AVA comparison is..

U2 are easily better than AVA. But whatever.

yourstruly
09-06-2006, 07:12 AM
I wouldn't know. But from what i've heard of U2 they don't really sound like AVA at all

TheBigMachine
09-06-2006, 07:15 AM
They don't, really. They're still better though. For a start, Bonno can sing pretty well.

Surtr
09-06-2006, 03:12 PM
Yourstruly, shut the **** up.

Don't try flame a guy for stating an opinion.

Ross: Agreed on the Mark/Fat Mike deal :p

These_Green_Eyes
09-06-2006, 04:32 PM
U2 is definitley better then Angels and Airwaves. I think so anyways.

That new (+44) song is pretty good. Nothing incredible, but it's not boring like most of the Angels and Airwaves songs.

formofshark
09-06-2006, 04:50 PM
liek omg that's teh orignlz comback of the sentry!

brb guys i have to go suck tom's dick

lol

Storm In A Teacup
09-06-2006, 05:10 PM
If anything, I was defending Tom..and was pointing out how lame and unoriginal the U2/AVA comparison is..

It's not lame and unoriginal tbh. AVA's intro to the first single ripped off the intro of "City Of Blinding Lights".

Coheed And Cambria also ripped off U2 as well. :'(

Bad Blood
09-06-2006, 05:20 PM
U2 are gay though, I don't know why anyone in this genre of music would rip them off :/

Storm In A Teacup
09-06-2006, 05:30 PM
Older U2 is awesome though and "How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb" is great too. :(

Ross
09-06-2006, 06:04 PM
Ross: Agreed on the Mark/Fat Mike deal :p

Haha, hell yes. I kinda love that EP, simply for the awful recording quality.

The NOFX EP with that song on is miles (or kilometres for you proper Europeans) better though :p

Oh gawd, I hope +44 are awesome. Something good needs to come out of Blink's demise. AvA depressed me. :upset: Saying that, the +44 I've heard so far is nothing short of sexual.

yourstruly
09-06-2006, 06:37 PM
It's not lame and unoriginal tbh. AVA's intro to the first single ripped off the intro of "City Of Blinding Lights".

Coheed And Cambria also ripped off U2 as well. :'(I guess, I really should stop talking about U2, since i've never listened to them in my life

Storm In A Teacup
09-06-2006, 06:42 PM
....You're lame. --rep

Dies Irae
09-06-2006, 06:46 PM
Chill out y'all there's too much hatin' in here. For serious.

I had a Blink song stuck in my head earlier today but I don't really remember. I think it was "I Miss You".

yourstruly
09-06-2006, 06:49 PM
I miss You has grown on me alot. I love the bass line, it's not hard but it sounds nice. Do you like the live version of it or the studio one better?

B
09-06-2006, 06:51 PM
I think I'm going to listen to Blink and do some old school reminiscing.

It'll make me feel like **** even more after but for the time being it's cool.

Storm In A Teacup
09-06-2006, 06:58 PM
Yeah, when I first saw the video for "I Miss You" I hated it, but now I <3 it.

B
09-06-2006, 06:59 PM
I despise that video with a passion.

And the song for that matter, merely because I think I've heard it at least 1000 times.

Dies Irae
09-06-2006, 07:03 PM
I miss You has grown on me alot. I love the bass line, it's not hard but it sounds nice. Do you like the live version of it or the studio one better?

That one that MTV played a lot or something.

I've never heard Blink live except on the TVs and I don't think I ever want to ageen.

B
09-06-2006, 07:05 PM
Yeah the live stuff I've heard is generally terrible.

Dies Irae
09-06-2006, 07:07 PM
Tom - "Hey guys, I still haven't gone through puberty. I'm going to sing"

Mark - "You do that buddai"

Tom - "SHUT UP IT WILL BE AMAZING"

B
09-06-2006, 07:08 PM
Mark isn't much better live either :/

At least he sounds good on record though.

Dies Irae
09-06-2006, 07:09 PM
Well at least he doesn't have MS Paint hair.

B
09-06-2006, 07:12 PM
hahahaha

Agree'd

He had awesome hair back in the day.

Surtr
09-06-2006, 08:25 PM
Tom - "Hey guys, I still haven't gone through puberty. I'm going to sing"

Mark - "You do that buddai"

Tom - "SHUT UP IT WILL BE AMAZING"
:confused: Huh?


But yeah, agreed, Tom's hairs on the edge, in a bad way, now.

yourstruly
09-06-2006, 10:21 PM
That one that MTV played a lot or something.

I've never heard Blink live except on the TVs and I don't think I ever want to ageen.They play a different version live, but the really amazing one is at Pepsi Smash. it's on youtube, I thought it was really good, way better than the studio version.

This interview is from the VMAs apparently, but it looks older. it's really good though.

http://www.mtv.com/overdrive/?id=1533715&launchedFrom=/music/artist/angels_and_airwaves/artist.jhtml../overdrive/?id=1533715&launchedFrom=/music/artist/angels_and_airwaves/artist.jhtml

poo-poo-pee-pee
09-07-2006, 03:11 AM
I could never really get into I Miss You.
It was a nice change, something softer.
But I just... well, don't like it.
I think it sounds kinda awkward, if that makes sence.

Though it does have a nice one-liner in the chorus:
'Don't waste your time on me, you're already the voice inside my head.'

yourstruly
09-07-2006, 04:26 AM
I miss you - live http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m31X8S6ob1M

I love what they do with the end, it makes my whole body feel tense

Ross
09-07-2006, 08:59 AM
I saw Blink live.

They were sex.

/wins

But in all serious, Blink live was better simply because of the pace of it. They added like 20bpm to every song they played, so songs like Happy Holidays were awesome. I don't like perfect music anyway, like we tend to get on CD nowadays. I like it if there are little niggles, a bit of fret buzz, and even the odd bit of accidental flat singing; I just find it adds much more character to the music and really shows how the artists are just normal people like you and me, rather than studio edited "gods". As long as they ain't trying to sound sh1t and are just playing as best they can, I'm happy tbh.

B
09-07-2006, 02:44 PM
I saw Blink live.

They were sex.

/wins

But in all serious, Blink live was better simply because of the pace of it. They added like 20bpm to every song they played, so songs like Happy Holidays were awesome. I don't like perfect music anyway, like we tend to get on CD nowadays. I like it if there are little niggles, a bit of fret buzz, and even the odd bit of accidental flat singing; I just find it adds much more character to the music and really shows how the artists are just normal people like you and me, rather than studio edited "gods". As long as they ain't trying to sound sh1t and are just playing as best they can, I'm happy tbh.
That's why I listen to the music I do.

80% of the bands record everything in one take and it's hardly altered at all, and the vocals are hardly changed so it sounds extremely real.

Ross
09-07-2006, 05:39 PM
Exactly, most of what I listen to is exactly the same. And for the same reason, I love live music.

I nearly died with happiness when I first played Disc2 of NOFX's 45 or 46 songs compilation. It was so good, I went out and bought the vinyl EPs that the songs on Disc2 were originally from.

<3

Dies Irae
09-07-2006, 05:41 PM
i'm an edited god

what now

Ross
09-07-2006, 05:45 PM
DIE!

:p

Dies Irae
09-07-2006, 05:46 PM
yeah but my reincarnated self will get all the royalty checks from my flawless album and stunning good looks

FauxApathy
09-07-2006, 07:28 PM
Lycanthrope is way better than When your heart stops beating.

Which sucks because WYHSB is the single. The song annoys me in general, I hope it doesn't get popular.

I really loved Lycanthrope and No It Isn't though.

Surtr
09-07-2006, 07:51 PM
Lycanthrope is way better than When your heart stops beating.

Which sucks because WYHSB is the single. The song annoys me in general, I hope it doesn't get popular.

I really loved Lycanthrope and No It Isn't though.
Link perhaps..?

lightningstrikestwice_13@hotmail.com

FauxApathy
09-07-2006, 07:55 PM
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=F5E9D9265655BAC1

I had assumed it was already posted.

Surtr
09-07-2006, 07:58 PM
k, I'll download and give a listen.

Untitled
09-07-2006, 08:19 PM
I have to admit, im realy digging WYHSB. Its realy cool.

I hope this album isnt gonna turn out how AVA did :(

Surtr
09-07-2006, 08:21 PM
Agreed Butler. The new song kicks ***. It's pretty sweet.

DJ Ducksauce
09-07-2006, 08:34 PM
Man, WYHSB is pretty nice. I hope that some of the other members can sing so that all the harmonies can happen live.

These_Green_Eyes
09-07-2006, 08:55 PM
I like the song as well.

Pazz
09-07-2006, 09:51 PM
What new P44 song?

B
09-07-2006, 09:56 PM
Lycanthrope is way better than When your heart stops beating.

Which sucks because WYHSB is the single. The song annoys me in general, I hope it doesn't get popular.

I really loved Lycanthrope and No It Isn't though.
:/.

DJ Ducksauce
09-07-2006, 10:01 PM
What new P44 song?
Check Faux's post up a few.

Pazz
09-07-2006, 10:02 PM
Yeah, I just listened to it. I don't like it as much as their other two songs.

DJ Ducksauce
09-07-2006, 10:04 PM
The only issues I'm finding with the P44 songs is that Mark's voice sounds the same kinda in them. I'm hoping with the final recordings that's fixed though.

B
09-07-2006, 10:05 PM
His voice is generally monotonous though.

DJ Ducksauce
09-07-2006, 10:14 PM
Yeah, but I'm hoping it isn't too much on Heart.

yourstruly
09-08-2006, 12:53 AM
The new song is alright. Will never compare to Blink though, in my opinion.

Ross
09-08-2006, 06:50 AM
Mmmm, +44. I like. But like Blink's S/T, it'll be a "when I'm in the mood" thing.

The Chemist
09-08-2006, 07:51 AM
I got super bored last night, and did this
PS: It's Lego.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f18/matt_the_man/IMG_0015.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f18/matt_the_man/IMG_0013.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f18/matt_the_man/IMG_0012.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f18/matt_the_man/IMG_0011-1.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f18/matt_the_man/IMG_0010-1.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f18/matt_the_man/IMG_0009-1.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f18/matt_the_man/IMG_0008-1.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f18/matt_the_man/IMG_0007-1.jpg

and for Lightning Strikes Twice, heres some sweet bagpipes
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=591390

Storm In A Teacup
09-08-2006, 12:16 PM
i'm an edited god

what now

Hmm, I thought you were just the 80-somethingith account from a 15 year old boy in Ohio who has no friends.

Maybe I'm wrong.

Anyway, I'll download this Plus 44 new song. :D

Pazz
09-08-2006, 03:13 PM
Hmm, I thought you were just the 80-somethingith account from a 15 year old boy in Ohio who has no friends.

Maybe I'm wrong.

Anyway, I'll download this Plus 44 new song. :D

You are right.

Storm In A Teacup
09-08-2006, 03:50 PM
I figured I was.

Lycanthorpe-best of the +44 material.

poo-poo-pee-pee
09-08-2006, 09:29 PM
For those of you who are stupid, like me, and don't know what Lycanthrope means:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lycanthrope_%28Dungeons_%26_Dragons%29

Mark is such a nerd.

PS: I'm not lovin' the new song.
No It Isn't and Lycanthrope we awsome, but WYHSB just isn't doing it for me... It seems like a new pop song from some lame-*** boy band, but with Mark on vocals, IMO.

yourstruly
09-08-2006, 10:12 PM
yay, i'm not the only who found out what lycanthrope means.

cobert
09-08-2006, 10:16 PM
Lycanthrope was used before Dungeons and Dragons came out, you know.

Surtr
09-08-2006, 10:20 PM
Lycanthrope was used before Dungeons and Dragons came out, you know.
Cob. wins.

D&D isn't everything in life people! :rolleyes:

cobert
09-08-2006, 10:23 PM
D&D, especially the more recent d20 rules set, is unnecessarily complex. New players shouldnt have to look into the rulebooks every 12 seconds and add a third of the numbers on their character sheet to see how good they are at swimming.

/rant

Surtr
09-08-2006, 10:26 PM
D&D, especially the more recent d20 rules set, is unnecessarily complex. New players shouldnt have to look into the rulebooks every 12 seconds and add a third of the numbers on their character sheet to see how good they are at swimming.

/rant
Agreed..Though this is the Blink thread..So..<_< lol

MattSharpIsCool
09-08-2006, 11:37 PM
I'm not going to listen to any Plus 44 songs until the CD comes out....or I go to the show on october 18, whichever comes first.

Except for "No It Isn't" I already downloaded that one.

DJ Ducksauce
09-09-2006, 03:02 AM
All the cool people learned what Lycanthrope means by reading books.

TheBigMachine
09-09-2006, 04:58 AM
Fantasy books, especially.

Stew: D&D is wicked hardcore man.

Storm In A Teacup
09-09-2006, 06:25 PM
What's Lycanthrope mean? I'm too lazy to click the link.

yourstruly
09-09-2006, 08:15 PM
someone who thinks they're a wolf or some ****

B
09-09-2006, 08:19 PM
like were wolves and ****

Surtr
09-09-2006, 09:31 PM
Fantasy books, especially.

Stew: D&D is wicked hardcore man.
I know man, Oh I know. :p

Cool though that Mark named it that. I can kinda' see how this can all be pointed at Tom.

"No It Isn't" is kinda' like Mark talking about how he had wanted to say something to Tom, about how he was always making the calls and ****.

"Lycanthorpe" is any kinda' shapeshifter, and Tom went from being Mark's best friend to whatever the hell he is now.

"When Your Heart Stops Beating" ....Hmm..lol

B
09-09-2006, 09:44 PM
I think none of it is directly about Tom at all.

And you're all reading too much into it.

Surtr
09-09-2006, 09:46 PM
I think none of it is directly about Tom at all.

And you're all reading too much into it.
I think you're probably right, but since I own the Blink thread (See # of posts lol) my opinion counts and is cooler than that of all the n00bz.

B
09-09-2006, 09:48 PM
Since I'm hugely more uber than everyone, my opinion means nothing because my ego is so large.

DJ Ducksauce
09-09-2006, 11:01 PM
*penis

oshi wtf not censored

yourstruly
09-09-2006, 11:23 PM
I think none of it is directly about Tom at all.

And you're all reading too much into it.Not Now and Cliff Diving have both been confirmed by Mark that they are about Tom..

DJ Ducksauce
09-09-2006, 11:24 PM
Not Now?

yourstruly
09-09-2006, 11:27 PM
whoa, I mean No it Isn't. I always get those songs confused. I'm actually not totally sure about Cliff Diving being about Tom, cos it's only info that i've read and it might just be a rumour..

EDIT: hahaha, someone thought they saw Travis kissing Paris Hilton, but it turned out to be someone else..

Storm In A Teacup
09-09-2006, 11:45 PM
I can easily see how "Lycanthrope" is about Tom.

It's sort of sad really. :(

DJ Ducksauce
09-09-2006, 11:58 PM
whoa, I mean No it Isn't. I always get those songs confused. I'm actually not totally sure about Cliff Diving being about Tom, cos it's only info that i've read and it might just be a rumour..

EDIT: hahaha, someone thought they saw Travis kissing Paris Hilton, but it turned out to be someone else..
oic, has Cliff Diving been released yet?

wtf?



I also see how Lycanthrope is about Tom. I'm betting a bit of Heart will have to do with Tom.

B
09-10-2006, 12:01 AM
Not Now and Cliff Diving have both been confirmed by Mark that they are about Tom..
Prove it.

I could say Tom is gay but without proof it doesn't mean ****.

Tom is gay.

Proof: http://www.geffen.com/images/local/500/67d5b5f6-890e-45f0-b2e0-c53ba3ba5ae3.jpg

yourstruly
09-10-2006, 12:11 AM
Prove ithttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_It_Isn%27t

B
09-10-2006, 12:13 AM
ROFL

wikipedia can be edited by anyone

And IIRC someone posted an interview here a long while back when No It Isn't first came out, and it quoted Mark specifically saying the song wasn't about Tom.

Then again my memory is hazy at best.

yourstruly
09-10-2006, 12:43 AM
I don't care, if you read the lyrics it's pretty ****in obvious that it's about the end of Blink.

B
09-10-2006, 12:55 AM
No need to be hostile.

It's pretty obvious you're being an immature tool if you can't even have a conversation about it.

The internet is quite the serious business tonight isn't it.

formofshark
09-10-2006, 01:10 AM
nah he swears in all his posts like ****

B
09-10-2006, 01:13 AM
lol matt

when do you get your account back

formofshark
09-10-2006, 01:18 AM
yesterday but im hoping for a change :)

TheBigMachine
09-10-2006, 04:59 AM
In other news I listened to Dude Ranch today, that album is so rad.

yourstruly
09-10-2006, 06:43 AM
it is indeed. it's my favourite Blink album.

poo-poo-pee-pee
09-10-2006, 06:55 AM
Mine changes weekly...
At the moment it's Untitled.
Last week it was TOYPAJ.

yourstruly
09-10-2006, 07:23 AM
I really hope Plus 44 come to new Zealand, doesn't seem like AVA are coming, even though they are going to a country that's right next to us..

dancetomdance182
09-10-2006, 10:08 AM
Maybe Plus 44 will come to New Zealand. Mark said he wanted to tour the whole world...so. God it's been a while since I posted here.

Ross
09-10-2006, 10:37 AM
Tom is gay.

Proof: http://www.geffen.com/images/local/500/67d5b5f6-890e-45f0-b2e0-c53ba3ba5ae3.jpg

Sorry to go back to this, but ROFL.

+44 are looking so much better than AvA.

B
09-10-2006, 01:54 PM
Mine changes weekly...
At the moment it's Untitled.
Last week it was TOYPAJ.
They don't have an album called Untitled, sorry to tell you.

I assume you mean't Blink 182, which would be "self-titled".

MattSharpIsCool
09-10-2006, 02:30 PM
There is no word called mean't, sorry to tell you.

I assume you meant meant, which would be "meant."

B
09-10-2006, 02:35 PM
typo

dancetomdance182
09-10-2006, 02:55 PM
ROFL.
Man I can't wait for the Plus-44 album.

Storm In A Teacup
09-10-2006, 03:01 PM
When's it come out? News source?

B
09-10-2006, 03:56 PM
neva

Ross
09-10-2006, 04:32 PM
They don't have an album called Untitled, sorry to tell you.

I assume you mean't Blink 182, which would be "self-titled".

Oddly enough, I think he was right to call it untitled. If I remember right, I read somewhere that the album isn't actually called Blink-182, it just doesn't have a name. Therefore it's untitled.

Think I read it in an interview with Mark once, but to be honest I can't remember so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong and make me look like a total 'tard.

B
09-10-2006, 04:37 PM
Oddly enough, I think he was right to call it untitled. If I remember right, I read somewhere that the album isn't actually called Blink-182, it just doesn't have a name. Therefore it's untitled.

Think I read it in an interview with Mark once, but to be honest I can't remember so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong and make me look like a total 'tard.
I've always known it as being self-titled.

Untitled
09-10-2006, 04:45 PM
Oddly enough, I think he was right to call it untitled. If I remember right, I read somewhere that the album isn't actually called Blink-182, it just doesn't have a name. Therefore it's untitled.

Think I read it in an interview with Mark once, but to be honest I can't remember so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong and make me look like a total 'tard.
ITS MEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

But does it matter, S/T, Me, same thing.

chumpradio
09-10-2006, 05:00 PM
When's it come out? News source?
14th November for you Americans. 13th for us UK people. :D

And I am certain that Mark said that the last Blink album wasn't self titled, it just had no title. It's not called "Untitled", it has no title at all. But that's a bit difficult to say when referring, so it got the usual treatment of being self titled.

dancetomdance182
09-10-2006, 08:03 PM
The album is really untitled. Magazines, media called it self titled cuse it was just blink-182. In an interview Tom or Mark said that they didn't want to give the album a title because they didn't want any bias.

B
09-10-2006, 08:15 PM
rofl bias on what

that's among the dumbest things either of them have said then

yourstruly
09-10-2006, 08:51 PM
I'm guessing they mean they don't want the album to be judged based on anything but the music. Unlike with their earlier records where you could easily tell what it was going to be like. "take off your pants and jacket" doesn't exactly show Blink going in a new direction..I don't even know if i'm making any sense anymore but whatevs..here are some photos from the Plus 44 video shoot.

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/6359/videoshoot1bq1.jpg

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/9086/videoshoot3tj0.jpg

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/3893/videoshoot4iy6.jpg

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/3114/videoshoot5oh5.jpg

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/4585/videoshoot6lh1.jpg

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/204/videoshoot7dr0.jpg

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/5868/videoshoot2pa0.jpg

Virus278
09-11-2006, 12:31 AM
I have a feeling i'm going to like the demo version of "No It Isn't" more than the new version. I really liked the original version but who knows maybe i'll end up liking this new version even more than the demo

yourstruly
09-11-2006, 01:19 AM
I think the album version might have drums in the verses, like in the clip I saw of them recording it, but maybe not.

poo-poo-pee-pee
09-11-2006, 05:33 AM
They don't have an album called Untitled, sorry to tell you.

I assume you mean't Blink 182, which would be "self-titled".

I know I'm late on this, and we've already established the fact that it is, infact, an untitled album, but please, if you're going to patronize me, at least get your facts straight. :thumb:

Anyways, I'm really looking forward to Plus-44.
At first I didn't really like the other two guys, but I was just judging them on looks, they're probably pretty cool guys. I mean, Mark's friends with 'em, and Mark's a pretty cool guy.
I still miss Carol though, she added something none of the guys can. Unless they were castrated at a very young age...

yourstruly
09-11-2006, 07:20 AM
but I was just judging them on looks
I hate it when people do that, especially when I do it. Huge mistake.

B
09-11-2006, 07:28 AM
I know I'm late on this, and we've already established the fact that it is, infact, an untitled album, but please, if you're going to patronize me, at least get your facts straight. :thumb:
k

maybe I should stick to insulting your name instead.

At least then I won't fail.

TheBigMachine
09-11-2006, 07:34 AM
A message from Cobert: Increase the peace guys

B
09-11-2006, 07:38 AM
:(.

I don't have peace.

TheBigMachine
09-11-2006, 07:40 AM
That sucks wicked hxc, go chill with the guys in Indie and smoke some weed, that will give you peace.

B
09-11-2006, 07:43 AM
I smoke enough weed :upset:

yourstruly
09-11-2006, 08:25 AM
Tom used to smoke weed and do X

EDIT: 1,111 posts yay ;)

poo-poo-pee-pee
09-11-2006, 08:46 AM
So, when Tom stopped drugs, he became what he is now with AVA?

****, Tom needs to get back on the weed. GET THIS MAN A JOINT!

...Anyways.

10571z
09-11-2006, 08:57 AM
So, when Tom stopped drugs, he became what he is now with AVA?

****, Tom needs to get back on the weed. GET THIS MAN A JOINT!

...Anyways.

true .

Ross
09-11-2006, 10:31 AM
Bah, drugs. I've had a little stash in my room for weeks now, can't be arsed to use it up though. Too much carry on.

I like this thought though. Tom has become a kunt since he stopped drugs.

Untitled
09-11-2006, 10:38 AM
I thaught blink where all striaght edge and stuff.


Well not straight edge but you know. Maybe thats just mark.

Bad Blood
09-11-2006, 11:25 AM
hahaha toms a stoner

Get Fighted
09-11-2006, 02:53 PM
I could have sworn Travis the only one who used/uses drugs, oh well.

Saw
09-11-2006, 03:41 PM
It's only weed though, which famous person doesn't do it?

;)

B
09-11-2006, 03:43 PM
He said ecstacy too.

And btw, it's more like what person doesn't do it.

Saw
09-11-2006, 03:45 PM
Ah right, I missed that. How long did he do X for?

Hahaha and that's so true

B
09-11-2006, 03:47 PM
I had no idea he did so I'm not sure. I just assumed he didn't do anything but hey, I'm not in a position to judge :/

mhm

yourstruly
09-11-2006, 07:32 PM
I just read in a bio of him that he used to smoke weed and do X in highschool, which I wouldn't doubt since he got kicked out of school for getting caught drunk there. Travis definately does drugs, and I'd be surprised if Mark does any since he quit drinking and smoking.

Untitled
09-11-2006, 08:25 PM
I dont think mark would at all.

tom, its proberbal, travis does.

I am in a posistion to judge, cause im sXe :evil: (sxe with drugs anyway)

B
09-11-2006, 08:28 PM
theres no such thing as just sxe with drugs buttsecks

10571z
09-12-2006, 01:32 AM
Ava are comming to Melbourne and I am not going.. But out of curiosity i thought i would check if mosh pit tickets are still availible. And yes they are 2 day after they went on sale. blink 182 sold out in less then 15 mins :) maybe this will give tom a hint where the true fans lie :).

yourstruly
09-12-2006, 04:24 AM
Not really, if anything AVAs album sales would've shown him that. How come you aren't going?

Untitled
09-12-2006, 05:25 AM
theres no such thing as just sxe with drugs buttsecks
yeah i know :upset:

TheBigMachine
09-12-2006, 06:44 AM
Thread is dead.

poo-poo-pee-pee
09-12-2006, 07:52 AM
Thread is dead.

Yeah, until the (+44) album is released, or AVA do something interesting.

yourstruly
09-12-2006, 08:08 AM
like come to New Zealand. the ****ers are coming so close, yet so far away :(. If I was rich I would just fly over to Oz and see them.

Ross
09-12-2006, 10:35 AM
Yeah, until the (+44) album is released, or AVA do something interesting.

Well, that much is unlikely.

Can't wait for +44.

The Chemist
09-12-2006, 11:07 AM
Well, that much is unlikely.

Can't wait for +44.
oh, burn!

yourstruly
09-12-2006, 11:08 PM
I'm actually going to be able to buy the Plus 44 album. yay for money :)

10571z
09-13-2006, 08:56 AM
Not really, if anything AVAs album sales would've shown him that. How come you aren't going?

Lol i hate AvA. Its like Tom got a drum loop and a effect played it over and over then added some crappy cliche chords over the top.... ??? Its a insult to his talent... IMO!

Bad Blood
09-13-2006, 12:51 PM
His AvA work is good i think.

He didn't make much better stuff with Blink : /

Mark wrote a lot of the guitar riffs

B
09-13-2006, 03:23 PM
Its a insult to his talentwhat

talent?

heh

The Chemist
09-13-2006, 04:41 PM
oh, burn!

Eliminator
09-13-2006, 04:43 PM
Lol i hate AvA. Its like Tom got a drum loop and a effect played it over and over then added some crappy cliche chords over the top.... ??? Its a insult to his talent... IMO!

What are cliche chords?

B
09-13-2006, 05:06 PM
power chords I guess?

meh

DJ Ducksauce
09-13-2006, 07:34 PM
I think he means I, V, IV and iv chords. Just in different patterns.

Which is pretty much true.

yourstruly
09-13-2006, 08:22 PM
The music is extremely average, but I think the message Tom is trying to get across is more important.

B
09-13-2006, 08:25 PM
hahahaha

You mean the same message that the rest of the genre try and get out as well?

Generally doing it way better than ava in the process.

Storm In A Teacup
09-13-2006, 08:25 PM
And that message is?

B
09-13-2006, 08:37 PM
lol o noes girls dont like me

yourstruly
09-13-2006, 08:44 PM
hahahaha

You mean the same message that the rest of the genre try and get out as well?
I'm not sure about that, because I don't know anything about modern pop punk or even listen to much modern pop punk. The message I got from AVA is that you should be happy and make everyday the best day of your life.

Storm In A Teacup
09-13-2006, 08:45 PM
Seems like a sound message to me.


Comparable to The Wall. :rolleyes:

Eliminator
09-13-2006, 08:46 PM
I'm not sure about that, because I don't know anything about modern pop punk or even listen to much modern pop punk. The message I got from AVA is that you should be happy and make everyday the best day of your life.

How is that possible when you're listening to crap like AVA?

B
09-13-2006, 08:46 PM
I'm not sure about that, because I don't know anything about modern pop punk or even listen to much modern pop punk. The message I got from AVA is that you should be happy and make everyday the best day of your life.
Pretty much the general message of pop-punk, both modern and old.

yourstruly
09-13-2006, 08:51 PM
How is that possible when you're listening to crap like AVA?how is what possible?