Official Blink 182 Thread

[C. OSullivan]

the average record would have about between 8-14 songs.... i dunno if your in a band but to wright practice and perfect 16 songs takes a long time


Are you kidding me? John Frusciante recorded 6 albums within a single year, and each song was recorded in hi-fi. Guess how long it took him to arrange and record each album? 4, 3, or even 2 days.

Trust me, that's blink 182's problem-- there's zero spontaneity with their work and total overproduction. It's just very processed, forced, not... free or spontaneous or innovative at any point in time.

Sure, they can write songs that some people enjoy, they can "mature" musically (which doesn't mean a whole lot, I'm not sure why that word is emphasized so often), but they can not innovate. Come out with something interesting, innovative, etc.

But dude, if you consider the amount of songs a factor on an album, or the length of the songs, or whatever, then your concept/attitude regarding music is distorted.

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But anyways, I've just read the first few pages of this thread (and, granted, it's from 5 months ago), but it's so weird how their fans have the need to overdramatize everything. Or make such pre-conceived, naive assumptions, as far as why they broke up or who they are as people and whatever. Here's what I think: Each fan has a preconceived idea/assumption of what type of people blink are, how they respond to eachother, what their personal lives are like, etc.

But let me tell you this, that a magazine/internet article or 20 second interview clip is NOT an insight on their lives.

But also, quit overdramatizing this. If you cared about music, you'd realize how much there is to be heard and what a small deterrance this is to music as a whole.

So... do I dislike the band? No, I dont listen to them, but I dont dislike them. But their fans just take everything at face value and are so one-dimensional with their take on music, I dont know.

[walters]

^^^^^^^

I agree with alot of stuff you said there, but you say you don't listen to blink? Then how can you say there's no spontaneity and that they can't innovate?
Listen to them before you judge and make comments like that

[10571z]

Are you kidding me? John Frusciante recorded 6 albums within a single year, and each song was recorded in hi-fi. Guess how long it took him to arrange and record each album? 4, 3, or even 2 days.

Trust me, that's blink 182's problem-- there's zero spontaneity with their work and total overproduction. It's just very processed, forced, not... free or spontaneous or innovative at any point in time.

Sure, they can write songs that some people enjoy, they can "mature" musically (which doesn't mean a whole lot, I'm not sure why that word is emphasized so often), but they can not innovate. Come out with something interesting, innovative, etc.

But dude, if you consider the amount of songs a factor on an album, or the length of the songs, or whatever, then your concept/attitude regarding music is distorted.

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But anyways, I've just read the first few pages of this thread (and, granted, it's from 5 months ago), but it's so weird how their fans have the need to overdramatize everything. Or make such pre-conceived, naive assumptions, as far as why they broke up or who they are as people and whatever. Here's what I think: Each fan has a preconceived idea/assumption of what type of people blink are, how they respond to eachother, what their personal lives are like, etc.

But let me tell you this, that a magazine/internet article or 20 second interview clip is NOT an insight on their lives.

But also, quit overdramatizing this. If you cared about music, you'd realize how much there is to be heard and what a small deterrance this is to music as a whole.

So... do I dislike the band? No, I dont listen to them, but I dont dislike them. But their fans just take everything at face value and are so one-dimensional with their take on music, I dont know.

im saying to wright 16 songs practice them and perfect them and record it takes long time usually ..... whoever this john guy congrats to him... but pluss 44 has been around like 6 months about and yer i think it woulda been tuff with atticus fsas going on to have time to do all this .....

[10571z]

But dude, if you consider the amount of songs a factor on an album, or the length of the songs, or whatever, then your concept/attitude regarding music is distorted.

what gave you that impression serious all i said was wrighting performing recording 16 songs for a album takes a while.... how that got anything to do wiht what your saying up there......

[16 Nipples]

If you dont listen to Blink then why are you here?

[10571z]

If you dont listen to Blink then why are you here?

he was giving his point of view then moving on its all good :)

[Bad Blood]

You don't have to listen to a band to discuss them.

Blink breaking up, and these new projects is something to talk about even if you don't listen to them.

[10571z]

guys guys guys guess what my good friend brad found tom delonges sisters myspace..... we no for sure its her as she only has 94 friends and it has a picture of her family and there tom in the background.... her name is keri just like tom sisters name is....she from southern cali and all her friends are from there and all comment her asking what she doin that night and so on.....

hear is a thing she posted

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/dude_sweet99/angelsandairwaves.jpg

[Bad Blood]

You know for sure it's his sister cause of a picture?!

Haha :rolleyes:

[Pazz]

guys guys guys guess what my good friend brad found tom delonges sisters myspace..... we no for sure its her as she only has 94 friends and it has a picture of her family and there tom in the background.... her name is keri just like tom sisters name is....she from southern cali and all her friends are from there and all comment her asking what she doin that night and so on.....

hear is a thing she posted

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/dude_sweet99/angelsandairwaves.jpg

That exact thing "Tom's sister" posted is the exact thing that I got in an e-mail from Geffen not even 3 days ago. Anyone could find a picture of the Delonge family and could be from California. For all I know it could be an old man trying to get with all the blink fan boys.

I have a question for you. Are you illiterate?

[C. OSullivan]

^^^^^^^

I agree with alot of stuff you said there, but you say you don't listen to blink? Then how can you say there's no spontaneity and that they can't innovate?
Listen to them before you judge and make comments like that

In saying that I don't "listen to blink," it means that I wouldnt go and put them in my cd player or on my pc or in a car to listen to.

I dont think that anyone survived 1999 without hearing All the Small Things at least a dozen times... plus I received another album as a gift a while back. And I was also a fan at one point in time.

[I-cant-sing]

In saying that I don't "listen to blink," it means that I wouldnt go and put them in my cd player or on my pc or in a car to listen to.

I dont think that anyone survived 1999 without hearing All the Small Things at least a dozen times... plus I received another album as a gift a while back. And I was also a fan at one point in time.
I agree with you. :thumb:

[16 Nipples]

Yeah kl i get you now.

[10571z]

ill post her myspace but please dont tell your friends i really dont want to see her with 32142354 friends tommorow....

i cant find it this sec she hasnt accepted me as her friend so ill wait a bit but trust me it is her :)

[plaidbassbilly]

Hmm...this all sounds a bit fishy. Even in the off-chance it is her, I'm not going to go barraging her with questions about Tom or anything. How did you find her anyway?

[10571z]

my mate up in sydney just goes dude look what i found....

ino she could be a fake easily but i think its true for these reasons

1. she only has 94 friends a fake usually gives there myspace out and try to get more
2. i clicked on her friends comments they were all from southern cali asking her questions about what she was doin tonight and so on....
3. at no place does it display her last name we only new it was her because in her pictures section theres a but which says "extended family" and theres a pic of her whole family and theres tom in it... i searched google and couldnt find this picture...
4. her name is keri obviously we no tom sisters name is keri....
5. she has a pic of her on the taking back sunday tour which blink toured with

[Independent_CA]

ill post her myspace but please dont tell your friends i really dont want to see her with 32142354 friends tommorow....

i cant find it this sec she hasnt accepted me as her friend so ill wait a bit but trust me it is her :)
Dude, leave the chick alone. How many gay little homos do you think she gets a week trying to be her friend just because she's Tom's sister? You've probably already been denied.

[Simon__Thats_All]

I'm pretty pumped for the Angels and Airwaves album. Expecting big things. I'm ex[ecting a very different sound from the Tom I'm used to though. It's described as "rock-n-roll revolution" so it's got to be awesome to be hyped up that much. Excited :D

[10571z]

Dude, leave the chick alone. How many gay little homos do you think she gets a week trying to be her friend just because she's Tom's sister? You've probably already been denied.

yep probably

[Kif]

Angels And Airwaves are:

Tom Delonge - Blink 182/Box Car Racer
David Kennedy - Box Car Racer/Over My Dead Body
Atom Willard - The Offspring/previously Alkaline Trio, American Hi-Fi and Rocket From The Crypt

Oh by the way, they are online on Myspace now

[Untitled]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh looks good, just because it says the offspring and alk3.

[Dead Star]

Atom WIllard was in Alk3?

You learn something everyday.

[Untitled]

I presume he's a drummer?

[Independent_CA]

I presume he's a drummer?
Nah, he's just for looks and scene points.

[Dead Star]

I presume he's a drummer?

Yeah he's a drummer.

[16 Nipples]

Nice lineup

[Deathcult666]

Blink 182 is horrid

listen to Dimmu Borgir

[Independent_CA]

Blink 182 is horrid

listen to Dimmu Borgir
Yes, because death metal hasn't been played out at all...

[dirtybass]

does anyone see a at the drive in thing going on. the band breaks up and creates 2 new bands. ones closer to what the original band was like and the other is more experimental and out there.

[dancetomdance182]

Angels And Airwaves are:

Tom Delonge - Blink 182/Box Car Racer
David Kennedy - Box Car Racer/Over My Dead Body
Atom Willard - The Offspring/previously Alkaline Trio, American Hi-Fi and Rocket From The Crypt

Oh by the way, they are online on Myspace now

If they only posted a song...

[DJ Ducksauce]

Ooh. Mark has a Podcast now. :amaze: It's about 21 min. long. It has "Silly Girl" by the Descendents on it. I'm just listening to it right now.

[I-cant-sing]

Blink 182 is horrid

listen to Dimmu Borgir
ok, i will do that. :thumb:

[10571z]

Ooh. Mark has a Podcast now. :amaze: It's about 21 min. long. It has "Silly Girl" by the Descendents on it. I'm just listening to it right now.

thats been up for ages i expect a new one it would have to be at least 2 weeks old :)

[16 Nipples]

Blink 182 is horrid

listen to Dimmu Borgir

lol yeah :rolleyes: :confused: :lol: :thumb:

watever u say m8!

[Untitled]

Ooh. Mark has a Podcast now. :amaze: It's about 21 min. long. It has "Silly Girl" by the Descendents on it. I'm just listening to it right now.
thats great, i love how mark is whoring himself and production and stuff.

i <3 hoppus. Lolz/

[redrumsixsix6]

yeah, ava seems like its gonna be really awesome i cant wait to hear it!

[dancetomdance182]

Ooh. Mark has a Podcast now. :amaze: It's about 21 min. long. It has "Silly Girl" by the Descendents on it. I'm just listening to it right now.

Yeah, he talks about plus44 on that too.

[10571z]

yeah, ava seems like its gonna be really awesome i cant wait to hear it!

im just scared his talked all this **** up and it gunna be this ****ty *** music . :upset:

[DJ Ducksauce]

thats great, i love how mark is whoring himself and production and stuff.

i <3 hoppus. Lolz/Yeah, it wasn't really that great. I didn't pay attention half the time.

[Fire Away]

holy ****... ipods have their own radio now? technology sure is wild these days

[Fire Away]

how do you bypass the censor? help a n00b out

[DJ Ducksauce]

Its not really radio. Its recorded, and then people just download the shows.
As for the censor, click the reply button to this post. I'll be nice today.: ****

[Fire Away]

Its not really radio. Its recorded, and then people just download the shows.
As for the censor, click the reply button to this post. I'll be nice today.: ****
****?

[I-cant-sing]

****?
dick

[10571z]

dick

dude do u still need that new found glory song???

[plaidbassbilly]

****?

I still don't understand how you did that.

[10571z]

yer me either tell ME!!! :)

[Simon__Thats_All]

/looks up AVA on myspace

[Simon__Thats_All]

Lazy Edit: I failed. Anyone want to hit me up with a link?

[Kif]

Travis Barker forms another band (http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1509939/20050920/blink_182.jhtml?headlines=true)

[10571z]

that guy is a band whore

[Fire Away]

whats angels and airwaves myspace URL?

[Gnarmageddon]

Uh.

http://www.myspace.com/angelsandairwaves

But there's no music up yet.

[10571z]

hopefully soon....

[why-was-i-banned]

dude do u still need that new found glory song???
hey dude its i-cant-sing, yeah i still need that song heaps mate :thumb:

[Independent_CA]

Travis Barker forms another band (http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1509939/20050920/blink_182.jhtml?headlines=true)
Ok, just...no. That guy is cut off as far as I'm concerned.

[10571z]

hey dude its i-cant-sing, yeah i still need that song heaps mate :thumb:

whats ur email ill yousentit to it... also wat song was it???

[DJ Ducksauce]

10157z, you don't know how to get past the censor? You've been here almost as long as me! Just reply to my post on the previous page.

[Gnarmageddon]

Ha. The Expensive Tastes CD will be on half Swisha House. :lol:

[krimet]

to keep this on topic, which blink song got you addicted to their sound. for me it was dammit. discuss
give me one good reason def.
that and happy holidays you bastard.this band turned me from heavy metal music.

[Pazz]

10157z, you don't know how to get past the censor? You've been here almost as long as me! Just reply to my post on the previous page.

Wow, I feel like a feel like a noob. I have always just bolded it. I've been here almost a year and I just found that out.

EDIT: Wait a second, I just looked at my join date and it's tomorrow, Happy Be-Early Birthday to Me! :p

[dancetomdance182]

Theres different ways to do it.

[DJ Ducksauce]

Yeah, I never figured out the other ones though.

[why-was-i-banned]

whats ur email ill yousentit to it... also wat song was it???
front_counter85@hotmail.com, and the never-ending story by nfg if you have that. That would be wicked if you could do that. :thumb:

[10571z]

ok i sent it :)

[why-was-i-banned]

ok i sent it :)
hey thanks man, its a piss easy song to play on bass. Its all the blink chord proggressions in it.

[10571z]

****?

**** yes i can do it now this is the best :)

[plaidbassbilly]

Its not really radio. Its recorded, and then people just download the shows.
As for the censor, click the reply button to this post. I'll be nice today.: ****

Did this work?...****.

Ok, it didn't.

[10571z]

****

[10571z]

ok well anyways to get onto the blink topic............................................. .................................................. .................................................. .....

whos your fav blink band member

mines mark his funny and plays bass like i do

[plaidbassbilly]

Yeah mine is Mark too. He's the reason I play bass. He's also the best looking :)

[Kif]

Mark definately. Tom is a bit of a big ego, even now, and Travis seems to secluded from the band. Still Mark has an amazing voice and can play bass reasonably well...

[plaidbassbilly]

Mmm yeah, there's something about his voice that I love also.

[10571z]

Mark definately. Tom is a bit of a big ego, even now, and Travis seems to secluded from the band. Still Mark has an amazing voice and can play bass reasonably well...
123....

i cant see why tom would say ava is gunna be awsome best thing in 20 years and ****..... mark said pluss 44 will be somehting different but not awsomely good:)

[Fire Away]

pfft. Travis is the BEST memeber. My favourite is Mark. But i love Tom all the same

[Kif]

123....

i cant see why tom would say ava is gunna be awsome best thing in 20 years and ****..... mark said pluss 44 will be somehting different but not awsomely good:)
Tom clearly wants to progress musically, but keep his child-like ego intact. I think that's just his way of saying it will be awesome, and he obviously meant for people not to take if literally.

Plus 44 will be better than AAA I think, because of how their sound has been described. Still, I'm curious to hear both before I judge completely

[10571z]

i actually think ava will be better.... just because i far enjoy male singing voices.. better than a females.. but yeh its gunna be awsome

[Kif]

It depends how the girl's voice sounds. Straylight Run, Cruiserweight, The FIght (To an extent), The Donnas, they all have good female singers. I think it will be more interesting because we won't know what to expect from her voice, nor the music. AAA, I can almost already imagine the sound, considering 3 members are from Blink, Alkaline Trio and The Offspring

[Get Fighted]

in awnser to the favourite members question mine is tom, he is a good guitarist (m&ms, reebok commcercial), singer, and songwriter

[16 Nipples]

Well Tom always used to be my fave member, he is what made me play guitar,and I always thought he was the funniest member.

But recently I have started to like Mark a lot more, I think he is the funniest member and he seems a better person than Tom sll round. I can imagine Tom starting a fight with someone, but Mark is too kind.

I have never really liked Travis, he is a great drummer, but not such a great person. He is the opposite of Mark and Tom. He never jokes, and recently he has been acting as if he does not want Blink to reform and he tries to act all gangster.

[Get Fighted]

Well Tom always used to be my fave member, he is what made me play guitar,and I always thought he was the funniest member.

But recently I have started to like Mark a lot more, I think he is the funniest member and he seems a better person than Tom sll round. I can imagine Tom starting a fight with someone, but Mark is too kind.

I have never really liked Travis, he is a great drummer, but not such a great person. He is the opposite of Mark and Tom. He never jokes, and recently he has been acting as if he does not want Blink to reform and he tries to act all gangster.

travis barker is a stupid *******. in some ways ur write about mark but i can relate to a hell of a lot of boxcar racer. the way tom and mark got rid of scott was out of order so i dont think tom is perfect but i do have a lot of respect for him

[Pazz]

I really don't have a favourite. I like both Tom and Mark equally. I like both of their voices and they are great at writing lyrics. I'm excited for AVA and Plus 44 because it's the closest I'm going to get of Blink ever again.

As fo Travis, I can't really stand him. I find all he's about is being really rich. He's an alright drummer, not the best, but alright. He seems way to quiet, how he has a reality tv show, beats me. We have enough reality tv shows and we really don't need one on Travis, quiet life.

But, if I had to choose between Mark, Tom and Scott, it would be the hardest, I don't know Scott that much, but I think he was an alright guy, he was just an alcoholic. I think if Scott was in the band, Blink might still be together. I could be wrong, but their biggest mistake was choosing Travis without looking at others.

Sorry, I kinda went off the whole "Favourite Band member is" topic, anyways care on.

EDIT: WOOT, my MX Birthday

[Angry Balled Fists!]

Tom > Mark.

I prefer hs voice.

[B]

Tom>Mark.

Scott>Travis.

Blink before Enema was better. The videos, the music, and just the all around feel of the band.

[FauxApathy]

Mark>Travis>Tom

Mostly Because I'm not a fan of Tom's actual singing. I listen to Blink for Mark's Songs on Vocals.

I do however think AVA will be better than Plus 44, just because I'm not a big fan of female singers, and I think Atom Willard is an amazing drummer.

[B]

I have a feeling Plus 44 will suck. Hopefully not though. Sucky bands are no fun.

[Pazz]

I have that feeling too. But, I have a feeling that AVA is going to be really good.

[dancetomdance182]

I have a feeling Plus 44 will suck. Hopefully not though. Sucky bands are no fun.

With Mark and Travis..no way!

[B]

With Mark and Travis..no way!
Ha, Travis will bring them down if anything. Off doing all his side projects and such.

[Simon__Thats_All]

My favourite is Tom. I saw them live and Mark was a bit of a dick to his bass tech. I think Travis is a good bloke. You watch the Urethra Chronicals DVD's and he says some funny stuff, he's just generally quieter than the others. I think he's a better drummer than Scott, but that's not to say Scott isn't good. Tom's my favourite all round. I love his guitaring, I know it's nothing flash but I love it anyway. Songs like Carousel are fantastic. Even as a person, from what I've seen, I just prefer him to Mark.

[Independent_CA]

Mark. I identify with him the most, even though I'm a guitarist.

[dancetomdance182]

A female voice with Mark's voice would probably sound awesome, along with Travis's drums..

[B]

A female voice with Mark's voice would probably sound awesome, along with Travis's drums..
Either awesome or crap. They will either contrast just enough or too much, with Mark's deep voice and a woman's higher voice. I don't see what drums have to do with vocals but sure..

[plaidbassbilly]

I have a feeling Plus 44 will suck. Hopefully not though. Sucky bands are no fun.

I was thinking that lately too, but I think it's because AAA has been given such a talking up, whereas Plus 44 hasn't really had anything.

[Mute Print]

I'm really excited for Angels And Airwaves, and Plus-44.

I might check out Travis's other side project I guess, although I'm don't think it will be that good. :-/

[B]

I'm really excited for Angels And Airwaves, and Plus-44.

I might check out Travis's other side project I guess, although I'm don't think it will be that good. :-/
Which side project would this be?


Plaidbassbilly (I hate calling people by their usernames, but I don't know your name so I apologize) I know what you mean. AAA has been so hyped but Plus 44 hasn't had much talk at all. Which is really saying something because they've been in the open much longer than AAA.

[Mute Print]

This one...

Travis Barker forms another band (http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1509939/20050920/blink_182.jhtml?headlines=true)

[B]

This one...
My God. Another one?

[Mute Print]

My God. Another one?
Haha, I know. Five bands is a little insane. So far his bands have been good for the most part. In my opinion:

blink-182 = 4 / 5
Box Car Racer = 3.5 / 5
Transplants = 3 / 5

/2,500 :smash:

[B]

Haha, I know. Five bands is a little insane. So far his bands have been good for the most part. In my opinion:

blink-182 = 4 / 5
Box Car Racer = 3.5 / 5
Transplants = 3 / 5

/2,500 :smash:
Haha. For me it's more.

Blink with Travis: 3/5 (Without:4/5)
BCR: 4/5
Transplants: 2/5

Anyways. I'm out for the night. Later Brian.

Edit: Oh and congrats. I was wondering what the /2500 was for :p

[plaidbassbilly]

Which side project would this be?


Plaidbassbilly (I hate calling people by their usernames, but I don't know your name so I apologize) I know what you mean. AAA has been so hyped but Plus 44 hasn't had much talk at all. Which is really saying something because they've been in the open much longer than AAA.


It's Bianca :wave:

I got an email from Kerrang magazine (the British one I think), and it had a little article on Tom in it, here's a link:

http://www.kerrang.com/nav?page=kerrang.news.detail&fixture_news=3265899

It's pretty much the same as the other AAA statements except he says that "we will find out very soon" why Blink went on hiatus. Sorry if this has been posted already but I don't remember reading it.

[Kif]

http://www.blink182.com/news/

Yeah, by that album cover, this is simply a cash-in

[plaidbassbilly]

****, I was hoping for a new logo to accompany it. Oh well.

[Independent_CA]

Where is the bunny?!

[10571z]

what a **** album cover :(

[Kif]

More info about the album:

- A single and video will be released before the album (Not sure which though)
- There will be a limited edition collectors edition in a box which comes with a DVD full of the band's videos (And probably a few extras I'd think)

[Gnarmageddon]

Milking it for all it's worth is kind of an understatement here.

[Kif]

Honestly I don't think this was Blink's idea, I suppose this is just one of those prices you have to pay if you are a big band on a major label

[16 Nipples]

More info about the album:

- A single and video will be released before the album (Not sure which though)
- There will be a limited edition collectors edition in a box which comes with a DVD full of the band's videos (And probably a few extras I'd think)

I dont mean to question your knowledge but how do you know that?

[B]

Kif is the all knowing God of news about pop-punk things.

[Kif]

I dont mean to question your knowledge but how do you know that?
Sellsheet released by Geffen for the album. It has advertising information, how they plan to market the album and it's release date for the public and for advances

[B]

Or that.

[Kif]

Haha, I'll have to post it up for you guys in a minute.

[16 Nipples]

Oh cool, yeah I dont think teh Blink guys have had much to do with the Greatest Hits album at all.

For me it would be

Blink- 10/10
Box Car Racer- 8/10
Transplants- 2/10

To be honest I think The Transplants is bull****, and to make it worse, Travis seems to put them as a bigger priority than Blink at the moment and for the rest of his life. The way he talks, 'Blink is over' 'I want to do something fresh and new' it seems as if he is tired of Blink and their music.

[B]

Oh cool, yeah I dont think teh Blink guys have had much to do with the Greatest Hits album at all.

For me it would be

Blink- 10/10
Box Car Racer- 8/10
Transplants- 2/10

To be honest I think The Transplants is bull****, and to make it worse, Travis seems to put them as a bigger priority than Blink at the moment and for the rest of his life. The way he talks, 'Blink is over' 'I want to do something fresh and new' it seems as if he is tired of Blink and their music.
He probably is tired of them. He's done 3 albums and a live album. He probably thinks that's enough. Especially when he has like 3 other side projects.

[Kif]

You can't really blame him though. I mean, this is a man who is one of the best pop-punk drummers of our generation, and he;s stuck playing the same songs. Transplants aren't as bad as people make out, it's just they are more experimented than Blink.

Also, Travis has been involved in Transplants for a long time, even before the first album. He and Tim used to go to his basement a lot and just make beats and songs I think. My history on Blink is a little brushed up at the moment

[10571z]

You can't really blame him though. I mean, this is a man who is one of the best pop-punk drummers of our generation, and he;s stuck playing the same songs. Transplants aren't as bad as people make out, it's just they are more experimented than Blink.

Also, Travis has been involved in Transplants for a long time, even before the first album. He and Tim used to go to his basement a lot and just make beats and songs I think. My history on Blink is a little brushed up at the moment

an transplants suck.. ok they have some good songs.... there a diffirence of being expirmental and being good and experimental

[Kif]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/cky2kendall/blink182sellsheet.jpg

[16 Nipples]

Cool, looks good. I wonder what the video for Not Now will be, will they shoot a brand new one or just tons of old different clips of the Blink guys? I hope they will shoot a new one, but I have a feeling it will just be a bunch of old clips, like the Anthem Part II video.

[Untitled]

itll be live clips and stuff, i get the feeling the band arnt even speaking to each other, i dunno where i get that from.

[why-was-i-banned]

i reckon the gh will be aimed at the last generation of blink fans, not the old school blink fans.

[Independent_CA]

Unfortunately, you two are probably right. God I wish I could go back to like 1998 for a lot of reasons now...

[Untitled]

Ive changed my mind on Dude Ranch being the best, after listening to TOYPAJ agian, a whole 1 time, ive decided its the best.

[Independent_CA]

Ive changed my mind on Dude Ranch being the best, after listening to TOYPAJ agian, a whole 1 time, ive decided its the best.
Wha...? You've got to be kidding.

[Untitled]

No......

[Independent_CA]

No......
I just don't see how you can conclude that.

[Untitled]

Because i like it?

[Independent_CA]

Because i like it?
Well, so do I. They haven't released an album yet that I didn't like, but Dude Ranch is arguably their best in just about every area.

[10571z]

Cool, looks good. I wonder what the video for Not Now will be, will they shoot a brand new one or just tons of old different clips of the Blink guys? I hope they will shoot a new one, but I have a feeling it will just be a bunch of old clips, like the Anthem Part II video.

i hope its a bunch of old footage of like there past tours and them growing up

[10571z]

OMG this is the worst funniest band i have ever heard......

http://www.myspace.com/notquiterightband

they do a cover of

sense fail - stephen
brand new - ok i believe you but my tommoy gun dont
funeral for a friend- juneau

[melz__]

my mate found a AAA song on the net but it hasnt been mixed yet!!! shes gna send it to me wen i go on msn next time and ill post it on here

[10571z]

Go On Msn!!

[Kif]

Well, so do I. They haven't released an album yet that I didn't like, but Dude Ranch is arguably their best in just about every area.
I prefer Cheshire Cat over Dude Ranch, although it's a close decision

[Untitled]

How can you have a song that isnt mixed? that makes no sence to me.

[16 Nipples]

I know lol, post in on here anywayz.

Yeah I prefer Cheshire Cat aswell, altho that is probably just because I havent heard it as much as I have heard Dude Ranch. But every single song on Cheshire Cat is good or funny, altho Dude Ranch has Boring on it, which the title of the song pretty much sums up the song. Boring is the ONLY Blink song that I dont really like.

[Kif]

How can you have a song that isnt mixed? that makes no sence to me.
It's most likely a bogus file, but it's possible it could be unmastered from the studio. Although I agree, that doesn't make a lot of sense.

[plaidbassbilly]

I know lol, post in on here anywayz.

Yeah I prefer Cheshire Cat aswell, altho that is probably just because I havent heard it as much as I have heard Dude Ranch. But every single song on Cheshire Cat is good or funny, altho Dude Ranch has Boring on it, which the title of the song pretty much sums up the song. Boring is the ONLY Blink song that I dont really like.

I like Boring. The only Blink song I don't really like is Strings, don't know why.

[dancetomdance182]

It's most likely a bogus file, but it's possible it could be unmastered from the studio. Although I agree, that doesn't make a lot of sense.

I guess all the tracks aren't mixed together.

[Pazz]

I actually perfer Take Off Your Pants and Jacket over all their albums. Then I think Enema comes in a close second. It would be hard rate the others, but those are my two favourites.

[Kif]

Enema is the worst in my opinion. It was the last one I bought, and I only got it to "complete my collection".

[plaidbassbilly]

The last one I bought was Buddha, it took me awhile to find a copy.

[Untitled]

last i baught was the limeted edition UK tour S/t cd.

[Pazz]

Ummm..I kinda bought them all within a 2 week span and I have no idea which one was last. My first was TOYPAJ and my last was either Dude Ranch or Chesire Cat(I think it was Cheshire now that I think about it).

[Untitled]

My first was TOYPAJ, back in 2001 :cool:

[Kif]

My first was TOYPAJ, back in 2001 :cool:
123

I got it from WHSmith without my mum, even though it had a giant "This CD should not be sold to minors" sticker on the front, along with the usual parental guidance sticker.

[16 Nipples]

My first was also TOYPAJ, but the only only reason I got it was beacuase I had heard TMTATS that belonged to a mate. Then I bought Enema, then Self Titled, then Dude Ranch, then Cheshire Cat, then Buddah.

[B]

My first was Enema. In '97 I think. My last was Buddha. I got it about 9 months ago I guess. My favourite is either Dude Ranch or Cheshire Cat. My least favourite is the S/T.

[chumpradio]

My first was Enema back just after it had been released. When ATST was really popular.
My last was The Mark Tom and Travis Show, although I have now lost it. :(

[Gnarmageddon]

I had TOYPAJ first. :cool:

Now that I think about it, that's a really good album.

[Kif]

It's a good album, a hell of a lot better than Enema and Buddha. I can see where this discussion is going...

[DJ Ducksauce]

My first was the S/T. :( I got into blink really late. I have all of their albums now thanks to YSI. :p

[Pazz]

My first was the S/T. :( I got into blink really late. I have all of their albums now thanks to YSI. :p

But, when were talking about having their CD's we mean we actually own them. The only one I don't actually own is MTTS and that's because they stopped selling it by the time I was listening to Blink.

[Bad Blood]

I think the first album of blink's i got was TOYPAJ. I really enjoyed listening to it, it never seemed to get boring. I then bought the rest of their albums.

I'm still not bored of it.

[DJ Ducksauce]

The one's I actually own are: EOTS, TOYPAJ, S/T, Dude Ranch, and Cheshire Cat. I actually lost EOTS and TOYPAJ , but I had bought them. I got MTTS, Buddha, and Flyswatter off of YSI.

[Surtr]

I own Chesire Cat, Dude Ranch, TOYPAJ and S/T...I have a copy of MTTS that Matt sent me and I've heard EOTS so many times over I pretty much don't need the cd.

[16 Nipples]

My first was Enema. In '97 I think. My last was Buddha. I got it about 9 months ago I guess. My favourite is either Dude Ranch or Cheshire Cat. My least favourite is the S/T.

Enema wasnt released until 1999 :confused:

How could you have it in 97?

[Pazz]

I own Chesire Cat, Dude Ranch, TOYPAJ and S/T...I have a copy of MTTS that Matt sent me and I've heard EOTS so many times over I pretty much don't need the cd.

I feel special. :cool: Only problem only you and Fire Whispers(Brandon) know my real name.

Enema wasnt released until 1999

How could you have it in 97?

He obviously made a mistake.

[Untitled]

I actully have all the CDs but Buddha and Enama, Im not counting flyswatter, because its not a cd and stuff.

[Pazz]

I don't count flyswatter. I got Buddha for Christmas from my sister last year. Then with my birthday money, I bought the rest of the Blink cd's. Nevermind this happened two years ago. Wow, it's been a long time I have had the collection of Blink 182.

[Independent_CA]

I know lol, post in on here anywayz.

Yeah I prefer Cheshire Cat aswell, altho that is probably just because I havent heard it as much as I have heard Dude Ranch. But every single song on Cheshire Cat is good or funny, altho Dude Ranch has Boring on it, which the title of the song pretty much sums up the song. Boring is the ONLY Blink song that I dont really like.
That's my point, it is the only song on the album that I even kind of don't like. I think the quality and such of Dude Ranch were blink truly at their absolute best as a band, that's what just barely puts it over Cheshire for me.

[B]

Enema wasnt released until 1999 :confused:

How could you have it in 97?
Really? I swear I had it before then. Maybe I had an advanced copy or something. Even then it wouldn't be two years ahead.. I forget.
That's my point, it is the only song on the album that I even kind of don't like. I think the quality and such of Dude Ranch were blink truly at their absolute best as a band, that's what just barely puts it over Cheshire for me.
Boring is an awesome song. One of my favourites.

[10571z]

mine was

2000 enema
2001mark tom and travis
2001 topag
2002 chesire
2002 buddha
2003 self titled

[Independent_CA]

Boring is an awesome song. One of my favourites.
It's not bad, it's just not as good as the rest of the CD IMO.

[Pazz]

mine was

2000 enema
2001mark tom and travis
2001 topag
2002 chesire
2002 buddha
2003 self titled

I've never heard of topag :p.

[DJ Ducksauce]

I've never heard of topag :p.
What else would you expect from him?

[B]

What else would you expect from him?
:lol:

I pointed that out first Matt you bastard.

[DJ Ducksauce]

:lol:

I pointed that out first Matt you bastard.
Matt? Are you talking about pazz?

[B]

Matt? Are you talking about pazz?
Mhm, when I was at his house like 2 and a half hours ago I pointed out the terrible acronym skillz of the 1071z guy or whatever the numbers are. He stole my fame.

Edit: When you said pazz, I somehow read pizza. I don't know why.

[DJ Ducksauce]

Mhm, when I was at his house like 2 and a half hours ago I pointed out the terrible acronym skillz of the 1071z guy or whatever the numbers are. He stole my fame.
:lol:

At first I thought you were calling me Matt and a bastard.
Edit: When you said pazz, I somehow read pizza. I don't know why.
Dammit, now I'm hungry.

[B]

:lol:

At first I thought you were calling me Matt and a bastard.

I remember you telling me your name I think. But I don't remember what it is. So far I know it isn't Matt.

[DJ Ducksauce]

My name is Justin.

Yours is Brandon right?

[Pazz]

:lol:

I pointed that out first Matt you bastard.

I realized it before that, I just never said anything, that's all. :p

[Pazz]

My name is Justin.

Yours is Brandon right?

I think he's gone off to bed, but yes his name is Brandon. And my name isn't Matt :rolleyes:

[DJ Ducksauce]

I think he's gone off to bed, but yes his name is Brandon. And my name isn't Matt :rolleyes: Really? :rolleyes:

[plaidbassbilly]

The first Blink CD I got was the s/t, in 03 or something, and it's still my favourite.

[10571z]

do u have the rest of the albums though ^^^^^

[16 Nipples]

The first Blink CD I got was the s/t, in 03 or something, and it's still my favourite.

S/T is my least favourite by a long long way. It still has some great songs on it. I dont see it as another Blink album, I see it as a different bands album. It is just so different to the other Blink albums, it is a different genre. It gives off a completely different mood than the other albums.

[Fire Away]

Chesire Cat is blinks worst cd, IMO, even though m+ms is my favourite song

[10571z]

Chesire Cat is blinks worst cd, IMO, even though m+ms is my favourite song
are u serious.....

[Bad Blood]

I don't like Cheshire Cat that much.

Definately not one of my favourite Blink cd's.

Dude ranch is probably the best. I'm also getting really into S/T again.

[16 Nipples]

I would say Enema, TOYPAJ, Dude Ranch and Cheshire Cat are all equal best. The S/T is definatley the worst, although it is still a lot better than a lot of other bands I like.

I have not included Buddah or TMTATS. Buddah is a great CD with some great songs on it, although most of them appear in Cheshire Cat also, minus 21 Days and The Girl Next Door. TMTATS is amazing, although most of the songs are on other albums.

[10571z]

i dont think much of topag..... i cant pick a fav blink cd there all good just depends wat i wanna listen to...

[B]

i dont think much of topag..... i cant pick a fav blink cd there all good just depends wat i wanna listen to...
Guy, it's TOYPAJ. I don't know where the hell you're getting the G from.

[Untitled]

Take off pants and g-string :naughty:

[DJ Ducksauce]

Take off pants and g-string :naughty:
:lol:

[B]

Lmao.

[Pazz]

Guy, it's TOYPAJ. I don't know where the hell you're getting the G from.

Take Off Pants and Gagit.

[Pazz]

Take off pants and g-string :naughty:

:lol: That was much funnier than mine...

[DJ Ducksauce]

Take off Your Pants and Get-on-your-knees-bitch

or

Turns out Your penors are green

[B]

Lmao. Too bad there's no Y in his.

[Pazz]

Well, it would sound better "Turns out penors are green".

[B]

Well, it would sound better "Turns out *pernors are green".
*Penors

And yes.

[chumpradio]

Right, I think that there is a line between where you can be classed as a bad typer, and where you are just mentally retarded. Before now there was a bit of confusion which the guy was, but not it has been confirmed as the latter.

[B]

Right, I think that there is a line between where you can be classed as a bad typer, and where you are just mentally retarded. Before now there was a bit of confusion which the guy was, but now it has been confirmed as the latter.
I've known about this for a long time :p.

[chumpradio]

I've known about this for a long time :p.
I was just trying to make a funny. :upset:

[DJ Ducksauce]

Lmao. Too bad there's no Y in his.Whoops, I missed that.

[FauxApathy]

My favorite album is S/T by far. The other albums are ok, and I own Cheshire Cat, Dude Ranch, and Enema. but S/T blows them all away in my mind.

[B]

My favorite album is S/T by far. The other albums are ok, and I own Cheshire Cat, Dude Ranch, and Enema. but S/T blows them all away in my mind.
When did you get into Blink? I find peoples favourite album usually depends when they first started listening.

[Kif]

Another AVA member has been announced:

Ryan Sinn (the bassist that recently left The Distillers)

[chumpradio]

Another AVA member has been announced:

Ryan Sinn (the bassist that recently left The Distillers)
I'm hoping this band is going to have pretty good music. So far all of the musicians have come from well known bands, and are experienced, so they should at least write a couple of cool songs.

[FauxApathy]

When did you get into Blink? I find peoples favourite album usually depends when they first started listening.


I bought Dude Ranch when In first came out because I liked Dammit, That's the first time I heard them, So I guess you could say that's when I got into them. But They weren't actually a band I consistentley liked until I heard S/T

[FauxApathy]

Another AVA member has been announced:

Ryan Sinn (the bassist that recently left The Distillers)


So....they have two bassists? Honestly, I've never seen that before. I'm guessing one of them might play a different instrument?

Where did you hear that anyway?

oh, and sorry about the double post.

[B]

I bought Dude Ranch when In first came out because I liked Dammit, That's the first time I heard them, So I guess you could say that's when I got into them. But They weren't actually a band I consistentley liked until I heard S/T
I see. Personally I think the S/T album is their worst. Not saying it's bad, it just doesn't compare to the others.

[DJ Ducksauce]

Their new album was very Boxcar Racer-ish. I loved it when I first bought it. After buying the other blink albums, I grew out of it.

[B]

Boxcar>S/T. By far IMO.

[Dead Star]

So....they have two bassists? Honestly, I've never seen that before. I'm guessing one of them might play a different instrument?

Where did you hear that anyway?

oh, and sorry about the double post.

My band has two bassists...

:amazed:

[Pazz]

Boxcar>S/T. By far IMO.

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[DJ Ducksauce]

Boxcar>S/T. By far IMO.
Yeah, but you can tell that the S/T had a bit of a BCR feel to it.

[chumpradio]

So....they have two bassists? Honestly, I've never seen that before. I'm guessing one of them might play a different instrument?

Where did you hear that anyway?

oh, and sorry about the double post.
No. David Kennedy is a guitarist, Atom Willard is a drummer, and the guy from The Distillers is a bassist.

[B]

Yeah, but you can tell that the S/T had a bit of a BCR feel to it.
Yeah, I think Tom had a lot of influence on the type of music the band played.

[10571z]

Yeah, but you can tell that the S/T had a bit of a BCR feel to it.

yes yes it did :amaze:

[FauxApathy]

No. David Kennedy is a guitarist, Atom Willard is a drummer, and the guy from The Distillers is a bassist.


I thought David Kennedy was a bassist as well, so that explains everything.

[Independent_CA]

When did you get into Blink? I find peoples favourite album usually depends when they first started listening.
I suppose that's true. I started in the late 90's so Dude Ranch is my favorite, I guess cause I was raised on their older sound.

And I agree with whoever said that Boxcar was better than S/T.

[plaidbassbilly]

When did you get into Blink? I find peoples favourite album usually depends when they first started listening.

That theory works for me, I only really got into Blink when the s/t came out, and it's my favourite still.

[10571z]

i just listened to boxcar racer and i really truley think its over rated now dont get me wrong i love it really awsome album but i just think it really lacks like a stand out track.... it has so many good tracks but nothing excellent..... that just what i think

[why-was-i-banned]

i just listened to boxcar racer and i really truley think its over rated now dont get me wrong i love it really awsome album but i just think it really lacks like a stand out track.... it has so many good tracks but nothing excellent..... that just what i think
i agree, i also think tom likes to write melodic emo songs without standout choruses :thumb:

[10571z]

i agree, i also think tom likes to write melodic emo songs without standout choruses :thumb:

what do u mean... do u mean songs like... watch the world...there is..... where you really couldnt tell where the chorus is

[Bad Blood]

I keep going on and off about listening to Box car. Sometimes i can't be arsed to listen, but other times it's amazing to listen to. It's quite like that with s/t too.

From BCR by far, for me the best song is 'There is'. I heard it a while before i realised BCR had formed and thought it was Blink for a while... It kinda said a lot to me when i first heard it, that's why it's my favourite i guess. All of their songs are amazing and listenable to. I fell in love with the album quite soon after a few listens.

[Independent_CA]

I keep going on and off about listening to Box car. Sometimes i can't be arsed to listen, but other times it's amazing to listen to. It's quite like that with s/t too.

From BCR by far, for me the best song is 'There is'. I heard it a while before i realised BCR had formed and thought it was Blink for a while... It kinda said a lot to me when i first heard it, that's why it's my favourite i guess. All of their songs are amazing and listenable to. I fell in love with the album quite soon after a few listens.
Yeah, I like that one, plus Watch The World, and The End With You.

[Get Fighted]

I keep going on and off about listening to Box car. Sometimes i can't be arsed to listen, but other times it's amazing to listen to. It's quite like that with s/t too.

From BCR by far, for me the best song is 'There is'. I heard it a while before i realised BCR had formed and thought it was Blink for a while... It kinda said a lot to me when i first heard it, that's why it's my favourite i guess. All of their songs are amazing and listenable to. I fell in love with the album quite soon after a few listens.

there is = great
i feel so = INCREDIBLY AMAZING

[B]

Watch The World is my favourite. There Is was the first I had heard and probably one of the better tracks, even if the lyrics are a little cheesy.

Edit: Better?

[Bad Blood]

How is it emo?

Emo is stuff like Hot Cross.

[B]

How is it emo?

Emo is stuff like Hot Cross.
Hence the quotations. I know what emo is. I listen to it.

[Bad Blood]

:p

I was just saying...

[melz__]

found this on a essay site

“Blink182 is not a sellout” Despite popular opinion, the band Blink182 is not a sellout. Many fans of punk rock condemn the band for it’s success and radio play. If making it big is selling out, then, who would not sell out? An individual on a message board posted, “ I agree that blink182 is horrible, but I am sick of hearing kids refer to bands as sellouts. Who gives a f___? I will listen to any band as long as it sounds good to me“ ( pop ). The fact is, the term sellout is applied too freely and is a hyperbole. A true sellout is something blink182 is not. Selling out is changing dramatically and going against ones fans for worldly pleasures such as money and fame.

[albert_bass]

^
That essay is stupid and wrong.


Btw to keep on topic, I've been playing some Blink182 on guitar today. It had been a long long time since last time (excuse the redundance). I love the "solo" to Carousel.

[Untitled]

Blink have never changed there music style there newer album is a bit more mature and experimental and they didnt know if people would like it, so thats not selling out, only if they new people would buy it then maybe.

[albert_bass]

Dude Ranch ---> Enema Of The State.


Selling Out.


It's not a bad thing, it just happens, get over it.

[B]

The definition that person gives of a sell-out is a little sketchy... I wouldn't really say Blink sold out. They just matured, besides, they were really popular before they changed their sound.

[albert_bass]

The definition that person gives of a sell-out is a little sketchy... I wouldn't really say Blink sold out. They just matured, besides, they were really popular before they changed their sound.

By your words I'm guessing you think that guy says they sold out?

[Independent_CA]

Dude Ranch ---> Enema Of The State.
Selling Out.
It's not a bad thing, it just happens, get over it.
When you listen to Dude Ranch, then Enema of the State, you can easily tell it's the same band. Same sound, same style, just a little more polish on the latter. That's not selling out.

[B]

By your words I'm guessing you think that guy says they sold out?
No, I just think his definition of a sell-out at the end isn't accurate.

[albert_bass]

It is to change their sound to get more pop friendly.


When you listen to Americana, then CO1 you can easily tell it's the same band. Same sound, same style. A little more poppy on the latter. To change it that way is selling out. And to not sell more albums that way is being even laughable, and I LOVE The Offspring.

No, I just think his definition of a sell-out at the end isn't accurate.

Oh I see, I misunderstood you with the first half of the post.

[melz__]

How can you have a song that isnt mixed? that makes no sence to me.

no not mixed..i just dont no the proper word for it.
im meaning when you record it but it hasnt been messed around with..like not fixed up or ne thing ...its exactly how he recorded it..
it mite take me a while to post it up here coz dad got a new computer drive and it doesnt have msn so i have to use web messanger for now but as soon i get it ill put it up!!! properbly within the next 4 days

[Independent_CA]

It is to change their sound to get more pop friendly.
They were already pretty big beforehand.

When you listen to Americana, then CO1 you can easily tell it's the same band. Same sound, same style. A little more poppy on the latter. To change it that way is selling out. And to not sell more albums that way is being even laughable, and I LOVE The Offspring.
Change "selling out" to a "personal career decision", then I agree with you. Even musicians have to eat, and would like to strive to be on top of their industry.

[albert_bass]

I said it's not a bad thing. But changing your thoughts, your actions and your music just to fit what the public likes is what both bands did. If that's not selling out please god come here and tell us what is it.

[dancetomdance182]

no not mixed..i just dont no the proper word for it.
im meaning when you record it but it hasnt been messed around with..like not fixed up or ne thing ...its exactly how he recorded it..
it mite take me a while to post it up here coz dad got a new computer drive and it doesnt have msn so i have to use web messanger for now but as soon i get it ill put it up!!! properbly within the next 4 days

The word can be mixed or mastered.

[FauxApathy]

When you listen to Americana, then CO1 you can easily tell it's the same band. Same sound, same style. A little more poppy on the latter. To change it that way is selling out. And to not sell more albums that way is being even laughable, and I LOVE The Offspring.

Unless I'm misunderstanding you, you think the Offspring sold out, and I'd have to disagree. Either way, This is the blink thread, so i won't argue in here. I do love you for loving the offspring though, they're my favorite band.

And now we have Offspring + Blink + Distillers + Box Car Racer. It's almost like an all star team.

[10571z]

and i is clearly the best song :)

[walters]

I personally can't wait for Angels and Airwaves. Tom's talked it up quite a bit but I think he has reason too. Thinking of these songs: I feel so, there is (pretty much the entire boxcar racer album actually), Time to break up, what went wrong (such a great song), and alot of the ones on self-titled, especially always which is my favourite song of all time and shows Tom's true song writing ability (if he did write it that is). I don't know if Tom wrote these songs, but it seems like his style so I think he wrote the majority of those songs.
I think Blink's music has only gotten better over the years aswell, so I think Angels and Airwaves will be huge, at least to blink fans. This is just my personal opinion, so don't go mocking me if you think i'm completely wrong.

[Independent_CA]

I said it's not a bad thing. But changing your thoughts, your actions and your music just to fit what the public likes is what both bands did. If that's not selling out please god come here and tell us what is it.
I'm arguing that they didn't really change anything as far as style goes, which they didn't. Therefore, they didn't sell out.

Anyways, I hope AAA doesn't turn out to be a disappointment.

[10571z]

Anyways, I hope AAA doesn't turn out to be a disappointment.

obvoiusly :thumb:

[plaidbassbilly]

and i is clearly the best song :)

I always get that and Letters To God mixed up, because in Letters To God he goes "and i, i won't lie..." in the chorus.
Anyway, I think the best song is The End With You or Sorrow.

[why-was-i-banned]

I always get that and Letters To God mixed up, because in Letters To God he goes "and i, i won't lie..." in the chorus.
Anyway, I think the best song is The End With You or Sorrow.
i thought there best song was dont leave me or whatever its called, but its to emo for me lol.

[albert_bass]

When you listen to Americana, then CO1 you can easily tell it's the same band. Same sound, same style. A little more poppy on the latter. To change it that way is selling out. And to not sell more albums that way is being even laughable, and I LOVE The Offspring.

Unless I'm misunderstanding you, you think the Offspring sold out, and I'd have to disagree. Either way, This is the blink thread, so i won't argue in here. I do love you for loving the offspring though, they're my favorite band.

And now we have Offspring + Blink + Distillers + Box Car Racer. It's almost like an all star team.

I'm sorry to inform you The Offspring are playing just for the money. How could you explain their ****ty greatest hits album, the fact that they totally forgot their 2 first albums, because "people won't like them, they're not enough poppy" in words of noodles, or the news about a marketing study they did about the names in albums and songs to make them increase the sales posted in their official site?

The same with Blink 182 although I can't provide you information about that since I don't like them that much.

I'm arguing that they didn't really change anything as far as style goes, which they didn't. Therefore, they didn't sell out.

And I've said with this 3 times they changed their sound to a more poppy side just to fit what the public wants and get more money therefore they sold out. Of course the style is the same, it has still punk influences but you can't deny they've gone poppier.

[16 Nipples]

Well obviously they've gotten poppier cos pop means popular. But if you are meaning the modern definition of pop, then I still dont think so. Yes they changed a little bit, and so does every band on every album, you cant play the exact same over and over through the whole of your career. One of the main reasons people say they sold out on Enema is because of the 'Cleaner production' of the major labels. If they recorded Enema with the same production as dude ranch, I doubt the same amount of people would be saying they sold out.

[Independent_CA]

Well obviously they've gotten poppier cos pop means popular. But if you are meaning the modern definition of pop, then I still dont think so. Yes they changed a little bit, and so does every band on every album, you cant play the exact same over and over through the whole of your career. One of the main reasons people say they sold out on Enema is because of the 'Cleaner production' of the major labels. If they recorded Enema with the same production as dude ranch, I doubt the same amount of people would be saying they sold out.
This is exactly what I am trying to say. If blink had started as say an indie band and then went pop-punk for the fame, then yeah, that would be selling out. They didn't do that though, they were a pop-punk band from the beginning.

[albert_bass]

Man I think you guys just don't get it. I don't say they sold out because they changed their sound. Thiusands of bands change their sound and a lot of these bands also do it to a poppy side. The point is not a change of sound but a change of sound in order to. Blink 182 didn't change their sound because they felt like evolving musically, they did it because they wanted to be popular. Why if not did they all of a sudden avoid any kind of complication in their music, why did they wan to be on MTV, why did Mark and Tom let Travis convince them to be poppier? I already said this isn't a bad thing but it has a name: selling out. Letting your ideals slip in order to make mone. I'd probably do the same but don't try to make like if they didn't just because you are a fanboy.

[dancetomdance182]

This is exactly what I am trying to say. If blink had started as say an indie band and then went pop-punk for the fame, then yeah, that would be selling out. They didn't do that though, they were a pop-punk band from the beginning.

I have to admit, they made their songs less complicated and more poppier. But you are absolutely correct, they were always a pop-punk band.

[Independent_CA]

Man I think you guys just don't get it. I don't say they sold out because they changed their sound. Thiusands of bands change their sound and a lot of these bands also do it to a poppy side. The point is not a change of sound but a change of sound in order to. Blink 182 didn't change their sound because they felt like evolving musically, they did it because they wanted to be popular. Why if not did they all of a sudden avoid any kind of complication in their music, why did they wan to be on MTV, why did Mark and Tom let Travis convince them to be poppier? I already said this isn't a bad thing but it has a name: selling out. Letting your ideals slip in order to make mone. I'd probably do the same but don't try to make like if they didn't just because you are a fanboy.
What ideals did they espouse exactly? As others have said, they were already popular before EOTS and lets not forget that for the next two or three years, they tried attracting as much attention to punk in general as possible.

I believe that selling out exists, and there are perfect examples of it *cough* Anti-Flag *cough*. I don't think blink and some other bands really qualify because like I said earlier, they were always a pop-punk band. Yes, they were punk musically and toured with some serious punk-bands, but they have always fallen on the pop-side which appeals to a wider audience.

I'm not defending them just because I like them, I'm just tired of hearing the term "sell-out" thrown around everytime a band gets even remotely popular. It's gotten to the point where I have a friend or two who have stopped listening to bands they loved because and I quote, "Too many people like them now" or "They got too popular".