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[lunch998]

I really don't care what Tom Cruise does or says to other people about "scientology". I think he makes at least decent movies that are entertaining. You can enjoy the art form without enjoying their personality.

[ArcLite]

I enjoy him in movies, but I can't say I'd want to hang out with the guy. What is this scientology, by the way?

[trev913]

Scientology's a religion. John Travolta's a scientologist, isn't he?

Anyway, I like Tom Cruise just fine. Right before WotW came out, when he was cruising (pun!) the light night talk circuit, he was all right, and actually seemed like a down-to-earth personable guy. Then I saw bits of his interviews with Matt Lauer and started thinking he's kind of an a-hole, but just before 10:30 at night. He's cool the rest of the time.

[Steerpike]

I really don't care what Tom Cruise does or says to other people about "scientology". I think he makes at least decent movies that are entertaining. You can enjoy the art form without enjoying their personality.

His little rantings are just another reason I don't like him. Personally, I was never impressed with anything he's ever done.

I enjoy him in movies, but I can't say I'd want to hang out with the guy. What is this scientology, by the way?

Picture sci-fi nerds crossed with Christian Scientists. It's a gross over-simplification, but not too far from the truth.

[lunch998]

I don't have a problem with people that never cared for his movies in the first place, but this recent wave of everyone hating Tom Cruise is annoying.

[Bazarov]

Woah, this is what urbandictionary says.. but because it's urbandictionary I'm not sure about all the truth:
A cult founded by science fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard. There core beliefs are as follows:

This area of the galaxy was once ruled by an alien warlord named Xenu. 65 million years ago his empire was overpopulated horribly, so to combat the overpopulation he had trillions of citizens called in for psychiatric evalutations and tax audits, where they were given paralytic drugs, loaded onto space planes, and flown to Planet Teegeeack. Once on this planet, their bodies were stacked in huge piles around volcanoes, while atom bombs were dropped into these volcanos, instantly killing trillions of galactic citizens.

To keep these people from reincarnating in the rest of the galaxy, Xenu set up a special trap. Powerful force-fields kept their souls (called "Thetans" in Scientology jargon) from escaping, and these thetans were then shown special holographic movies about the various lies they are supposed to believe, with characters like Jesus, Mohammed and Buddha. Over time, these thetans began to believe Xenu's lies about false gods, and began to reincarnate on Teegeeack (but the thetans called this world "Earth"). When intelligent life appeared on Teegeeack, thousands or millions of "Thetans" cling to every native soul (er, "thetan") and fill it's head with nonsensical thoughs and irrational beliefs.

The key idea of Scientology is to avoid tax officials and psychiatrists at all costs, while paying the church a large amount of money for special "counseling" (called "auditing" in their jargon) to help you reach a special enlightened state called "Clear" where you telepathically communicate with these "thetans" clinging to you and force them out of your body, and rid yourself of evil Xenu's influence.

(By the way, most Scientologists don't know this, like the Mystery Cults of the Greco-Roman world, Scientology doles it's doctrine out in tiny doses to it's new recruits, and tells the public next to nothing about what it believes. You don't hear that whole story until you reach a special rank in their group called "OT3" for "Operating Thetan 3". Their doctrine holds that if this got out, the Thetans in people would revolt at hearing the truth and people would get sick and die possibly just by hearing this story, which of course leads people who aren't Scientologists who hear this story to tell it to others and watch them not die or get ill from it.)

[ArcLite]

Woah, this is what urbandictionary says.. but because it's urbandictionary I'm not sure about all the truth:
A cult founded by science fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard. There core beliefs are as follows:

This area of the galaxy was once ruled by an alien warlord named Xenu. 65 million years ago his empire was overpopulated horribly, so to combat the overpopulation he had trillions of citizens called in for psychiatric evalutations and tax audits, where they were given paralytic drugs, loaded onto space planes, and flown to Planet Teegeeack. Once on this planet, their bodies were stacked in huge piles around volcanoes, while atom bombs were dropped into these volcanos, instantly killing trillions of galactic citizens.

To keep these people from reincarnating in the rest of the galaxy, Xenu set up a special trap. Powerful force-fields kept their souls (called "Thetans" in Scientology jargon) from escaping, and these thetans were then shown special holographic movies about the various lies they are supposed to believe, with characters like Jesus, Mohammed and Buddha. Over time, these thetans began to believe Xenu's lies about false gods, and began to reincarnate on Teegeeack (but the thetans called this world "Earth"). When intelligent life appeared on Teegeeack, thousands or millions of "Thetans" cling to every native soul (er, "thetan") and fill it's head with nonsensical thoughs and irrational beliefs.

The key idea of Scientology is to avoid tax officials and psychiatrists at all costs, while paying the church a large amount of money for special "counseling" (called "auditing" in their jargon) to help you reach a special enlightened state called "Clear" where you telepathically communicate with these "thetans" clinging to you and force them out of your body, and rid yourself of evil Xenu's influence.

(By the way, most Scientologists don't know this, like the Mystery Cults of the Greco-Roman world, Scientology doles it's doctrine out in tiny doses to it's new recruits, and tells the public next to nothing about what it believes. You don't hear that whole story until you reach a special rank in their group called "OT3" for "Operating Thetan 3". Their doctrine holds that if this got out, the Thetans in people would revolt at hearing the truth and people would get sick and die possibly just by hearing this story, which of course leads people who aren't Scientologists who hear this story to tell it to others and watch them not die or get ill from it.)


:lol: Sweet, I want to be one....not. ^ That + seeing Tom on Oprah makes me wonder abuot his sanity. Oh well though, as long as he keeps making decent films.

[Steerpike]

I don't have a problem with people that never cared for his movies in the first place, but this recent wave of everyone hating Tom Cruise is annoying.

I know how to separate the person from the art. I like a couple of Jim Carrey's movies, even though he's a douchebag in real life. I like Last Action Hero, even though Schwarzenegger is a misogynist.

But I never really liked Cruise to begin with. Now I hear him spouting off on Scientology, denouncing anyone who disagrees with him, and just want him to shut his noise tube and make a decent movie.

[Arucard]

IO AM ao piaaws! I went uito a bpub, and Trivium wqas playing! SAi we out Maiden and Sevnefold intoksm theoep sausubkbozx¬¬`

[trev913]

I definitely don't believe that's the definition of Scientology... I'll check the Wiki.

[lunch998]

I know how to separate the person from the art. I like a couple of Jim Carrey's movies, even though he's a douchebag in real life. I like Last Action Hero, even though Schwarzenegger is a misogynist.

But I never really liked Cruise to begin with. Now I hear him spouting off on Scientology, denouncing anyone who disagrees with him, and just want him to shut his noise tube and make a decent movie.

I just said I have no problem with people like you who don't like his movies and never liked him in the first place.

[Steerpike]

I definitely don't believe that's the definition of Scientology... I'll check the Wiki.

As far as I know, Scientologists do believe we're descended from aliens.

You know, I recall reading about how in the mid-twentieth century, the cult of choice for celebrities was LeVey's Church of Satan. Whatever happened to that?

I just said I have no problem with people like you who don't like his movies and never liked him in the first place.

I know. There was a point I was trying to make there, but I can't remember for the life of me what it was.

[jpj]

As far as I know, Scientologists do believe we're descended from aliens.

You know, I recall reading about how in the mid-twentieth century, the cult of choice for celebrities was LeVey's Church of Satan. Whatever happened to that?
I'll take Satanists over Scientologist any day.

[munky_magik]

IO AM ao piaaws! I went uito a bpub, and Trivium wqas playing! SAi we out Maiden and Sevnefold intoksm theoep sausubkbozx¬¬`
Heh Heh. All the need is a 'Wpah !' and it would be the epitome of drunken posting.

Where is Jelle, actually? I haven't talked to him for ages :(

[lunch998]

I know. There was a point I was trying to make there, but I can't remember for the life of me what it was.

Heh, I just read it as an argument and responded accordingly.

[Cain]

IO AM ao piaaws! I went uito a bpub, and Trivium wqas playing! SAi we out Maiden and Sevnefold intoksm theoep sausubkbozx¬¬`

What kind of person goes on MX when they're drunk, anyway?

[lunch998]

Seriously, if you're drinking, you really should have something else to do then post on an internet forum.

[ArcLite]

What kind of person goes on MX when they're drunk, anyway?

I have to raise my hand on that one, as it's been done many a time. However, my typing is usually minimally compromised.

[MBS]

IO AM ao piaaws! I went uito a bpub, and Trivium wqas playing! SAi we out Maiden and Sevnefold intoksm theoep sausubkbozx¬¬`

Someone's a bit drunk. :lol:

[Cain]

Seriously, if you're drinking, you really should have something else to do then post on an internet forum.

My point exactly. :)

Like, when you're as drunk as Joe is. I mean is this cool?

"Dude, you were so drunk, do you remember anything?"
"Yeah, dude, I like, posted on MX totally wasted, and I misspelled everything and ****. It was awesome."

;) But I suppose if you're drunk, you don't really care about all that.

[lunch998]

When I'm drunk, I really like to be places that aren't my computer.

[Illmatic]

Anyway, I'm checking in for the time being...I'll be off pretty soon.

I spent the day with my dad's side of the family...my granddad jammed with John Lee Hooker! He's played with a lot of bluesmen but Hooker is the most famous one, I think. I jammed with him today, too :cool:

I couldn't find any recordings of him, though :-\

I don't like Tom Cruise because he has to be the smarmiest, smuggest (is that a word?) man on the planet...ever hear him talk or see an interview? I can't trust him. He's too slimy.

Posting drunk on MX is stupid, I concur.

The London thing was terrible...I'd make a snide comment about the Olympics, but the two places I would have placed above London (New York and Madrid) for the Olympics have experienced worse terrorist attacks in recent history.

Also, I'm still mystified as to why we have the 2008 Olympics in ****ing China. WTF?

Also, I love breasts too (late, I know) but as I've said before, when it comes to physical beauty I hold just about all the major parts in equal regard.

[Steerpike]

Alex, don't be silly. Tom Cruise is a prick but he does a great job in this movie. It is NOT a movie to wait for DVD. It needs to be understood and processed in the very loud, amplified movie theater environment. Your enjoyment will only be less if you watch this on TV.

Don't bother me now. I'm being a petty otaku. :upset:

EDIT: And while we're reviving the conversation, I never understood the big deal about DD breasts. I actually prefer something in a B or C cup, personally.

[Illmatic]

What the heck is an Otaku?

[Steerpike]

What the heck is an Otaku?

Anime nerd.

[Illmatic]

Oh.

Pardon me as I back away slowly, in comic disgust of your love for anime.

EDIT: And while we're reviving the conversation, I never understood the big deal about DD breasts. I actually prefer something in a B or C cup, personally.

I've said it a million times and I'll say it again: It all depends on the girl's body.

[lunch998]

Yea, if a girl is fat then she can have huge breasts.

[MBS]

What the heck is an Otaku?

"Otacon?"
"It stands for Otaku Convention. I'm a fan of Japanese anime."

...Yeah, I've played Metal Gear Solid a lot...

[Steerpike]

Oh.

Pardon me as I back away slowly, in comic disgust of your love for anime.

/middle finger

I've said it a million times and I'll say it again: It all depends on the girl's body.

Well, I prefer slender girls. Long legs, subtle curves, thin without being grotequely skinny... that sort of thing.

[Illmatic]

/middle finger

:lol:

Saw that coming.

Well, I prefer slender girls. Long legs, subtle curves, thin without being grotequely skinny... that sort of thing

I'm dating a...well, I don't know how to describe her. She's athletic, but she's not like one of those tiny-breasted female athletes in the Olympics or the WNBA (she has very good breasts...). So...I dunno.

[Dancin' Man]

Hi again. Steerpike - check page 797 I left a message for you. I'm off to lecture now.

Bye everyone. Again.

[Dancin' Man]

Oh, WNBA = lame.

And... Brakhage = still gay

and... Pepsi = gross. It leaves a nasty film of sugar on your teeth and is too sweet and undercarbonated.

And that is all. For now.

[NJMetalMeister]

Yes, DM, we all know that Coke is far superior to pepsi in every way possible, or at least i do.

Coke for life!

[Steerpike]

Sup. So I've made 2 movies so far and watched many many others. Just saw Dead Man with Johnny Depp.. Holy crap it is amazing. Lots of avant-garde films (especially Brakhage who either really annoys me or I love). Basically, it's a good time. I don't get to use editing software until next wek though so everything's been in camera. I got to act in a make-out scene too which was fun. I've got class from 9-12 then 1-5 and lecture most nights from 8-10 but lecture is usually watching films. I'm really busy and need to go to class in a few minutes.

That was all mostly for Steerpike's benefit as I doubt most of you understand the Brakhage comment and that was the on;y one anyone else should care about.

My roommate listens to metal as does my floor counselor and next door neighbor. Sweet. They're mostly into metalcore but they like death metal too which is cool and I talk underground rap with some kid on the first floor. Remind me to check out more Immortal Technique. Alright, that's all for now. Go vote Sean Malone. Bye.

I hate you right now. I've just encountered another handful of setbacks in my attempt to make my own movies. Specifically, money. I was working for days a week, but now according to my bosses, I'll be lucky to work more than two. And since the Homestead property taxes came in, my first paycheck amounted to zero.

(sigh) You ever get that feeling like the entire universe is concentrating its energies on thwarting you?

Yes, DM, we all know that Coke is far superior to pepsi in every way possible, or at least i do.

Coke for life!

Damn straight!

[Illmatic]

Oh, WNBA = lame.

Well, duh. That's why I'm glad my girl doesn't look like anyone in it.

and... Pepsi = gross. It leaves a nasty film of sugar on your teeth and is too sweet and undercarbonated.

Ain't that the truth.

Also, cut down on the double posting.

Also, it's pretty weird...my mom's family was never really receptive towards my dad, but my dad's family is, well, receptive to just about everyone. I have no idea what that's supposed to mean, but I feel like saying it.

And why did the postcounts of guys like Ramsey and Non Sequitur go down so much? Did the Guitar Stronghold get deleted or something?

[Cain]

Coke sucks. Pepsi clearly is the winner in every way.

[NJMetalMeister]

Coke sucks. Pepsi clearly is the winner in every way.

only a communist would say that, and you arent a communist are you?

/brushes off some old maccarthyism

[Cain]

Don't bother me now. I'm being a petty otaku. :upset:

EDIT: And while we're reviving the conversation, I never understood the big deal about DD breasts. I actually prefer something in a B or C cup, personally.

Well, that's my max tolerance, size-wise. But bigger is generally better, especially if they don't sag, which is their wont if the girl is skinny rather than on the plump side.

I've been attracted to girls because of their boobs since third grade. No joke. They were totally mysterious and I had to figure out what they looked like. And even when I did I couldn't get enough of 'em.

C is generally accepted as the perfect size because of the age factor, but just once I'd like a huge chested girl to play with.

[ArcLite]

Generally speaking, I think a nice hearty set of C's is perfect. Man I love tits. When they get into the DD range they aren't nearly as appealing to me.

[Steerpike]

Well, that's my max tolerance, size-wise. But bigger is generally better, especially if they don't sag, which is their wont if the girl is skinny rather than on the plump side.

I've been attracted to girls because of their boobs since third grade. No joke. They were totally mysterious and I had to figure out what they looked like. And even when I did I couldn't get enough of 'em.

C is generally accepted as the perfect size because of the age factor, but just once I'd like a huge chested girl to play with.

You ever seen a Russ Meyer film?

Generally speaking, I think a nice hearty set of C's is perfect. Man I love tits. When they get into the DD range they aren't nearly as appealing to me.

When they're as big as my head, that's where I draw the line.

[NJMetalMeister]

My ex had DD sized, they were fun, and that is all i am going to say on that one.

[Illmatic]

I am perfectly happy with my girl's C's. Given her body, D's and anything bigger would just look gross.

EDIT to post below: So I see

[Cain]

And why did the postcounts of guys like Ramsey and Non Sequitur go down so much? Did the Guitar Stronghold get deleted or something?

Ramsey rather famously requested that his postcount be reset, as a statement about how much he cares about postcount. Non Sequiter, as we know, used to be zerokewl, but I believe his account was somehow deleted and when he was modded he retained the account's joindate but lost all of his previous posts.


When they're as big as my head, that's where I draw the line.

Yeah, then they're funny. But good for pillows.

It's the implants that suck. Especially if they're big, they make boobs look exactly like soccer balls.

And most people can tell the difference between big fat boobs and good big boobs. I like the latter. God, I just love 'em so much.

You guys need to post faster so I don't double-post so much. :mad:

[Steerpike]

Yeah, then they're funny. But good for pillows.

It's the implants that suck. Especially if they're big, they make boobs look exactly like soccer balls.

And most people can tell the difference between big fat boobs and good big boobs. I like the latter. God, I just love 'em so much.

Which is why I brought up Russ Meyer.

[Cain]

Which is why I brought up Russ Meyer.

I haven't, actually, but I've heard a great deal about him.

Unfortunately, I'm likely too desensitized to the mere sight of naked women, unless it's someone I know.

[Illmatic]

Hahaha...yeah, seeing a hot chick you know naked is actually hotter than seeing a hot stranger naked.

Or maybe that's just me.

snypa

It's been nice, but I gotta run.

[Steerpike]

I haven't, actually, but I've heard a great deal about him.

Unfortunately, I'm likely too desensitized to the mere sight of naked women, unless it's someone I know.

Actually, Meyer's movies are mostly entertaining not just because of the nudity, but because of the self-awareness of how trashy they are.

Russ himself admitted that he made crappy movies. But what made the difference was he made no illusions and let the movie be entertaining in its poor taste and campiness. That became an inspiration for John Waters.

[Cain]

Hahaha...yeah, seeing a hot chick you know naked is actually hotter than seeing a hot stranger naked.

And hotter than any **** movie.

[Slapping Penguin]

(In case you missed my first post)

The other idea is essentially a much more eerie story, in which an American patrol gets lost in the gloomy, terrifyingly eeire Ardennes forest, stumbles across a German encampment and make battle, in which all but one American is killed. That American is wounded and taken prisoner by the only remaining German: a 16-year-old SS conscript that's scared to death of both his side and the Allies, who has nothing but Nazi dogma to rely on, and who doesn't speak a word of English. The story revolves around the time they spend together alone in the cabin, with the less experienced German holding the gun on the American, and how their communication barrier slowly begins to break down and the humanity in the both of them is revealed once again. I plan to have all the German's dialogue in German so it's enigmatic for English readers, just as it is for the main character. I just don't know how to begin and end it, or what they do with one another. :-/



Cain I don't know where this conversation happened but I read this quote and you have a great idea for a movie mate. Good luck with, just don't be tainted with the americanized view of WWII. I have a few ideas through that might work better.

Have the young american soldier keep the wounded GERMAN prisoner hostage. That way the audience who immenditely sees the German as the enemy will see this poor boys life turned to shi t in war. The american holding him hostage will see like I said before because the GERMAN are seen as bad the american will see that he is just like him. Its hard to explain but it would be more meaning full with the German hostage. Think about.

Don't nesscarly do the Ardeden forest. Be more creative think of a different instead of the old Band of Brother/Saving private ryan spots and a different world war II spot.

I just realise something cool, I know your american and all but the best would be a russian in Stalingrad. In an abadoned area of the city in winter. Even scarier. The reason I think of a russian is because the Russians had so much hate for the Germans and vice versa that way the chacters and their relations would be even deeper when they see past their countries propganda and romours etc.

Possible ending: Something happens and a abttle ensures the person who is keeping the hostage side wins and in the confusion he kills his hostage. But it haunts and Scars him for his entrie life. Eg BAttle happen in confusion Russian kills his German hostage but Compeletly shatters him and he can never forget.

BUT HEY ITS YOUR MOVIE just my two cents.

[Steerpike]

It's weird. I look at all the ideas you guys want to write about for books and movies, then look at mine, and I suddenly feel like I just walked into a beatnik poetry slam wearing khakis and a white Spongebob T-shirt.

Of course, it doesn't help that my relatives are kind of snobbish. You should have heard the conversation I had with my grandfather trying to convince him that Stare Into the Abyss was not going to be a trashy slasher flick.

[Riva]

Hahaha...yeah, seeing a hot chick you know naked is actually hotter than seeing a hot stranger naked.

It is, but I still feel incredibly embarrassed if I ever catch someone like that...

In other news: Read my story (http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8575704&postcount=19847)

[Cain]

I'd do Russian, except they were rabid in their hatred for the Germans. No Russian soldier fighting in Stalingrad would a.) be alone long enough to get to know a prisoner, b.) Be convinced of an SS soldier's humanity after a talk. The atrocity level on the Eastern Front was tremendous, and the Russians responded in kind and indiscriminately as punishment. There were decent Germans, but the Russians were so outraged at the conduct of the Einsatzgruppen that they weren't inclined to treat any prisoner with respect. In fact, they would have shot them when they surrendered, most likely.

The Ardennes Forest could be slightly cliche (it was the site for another eerie WWII tale, called "A Midnight Clear" the most depressing Christmas movie ever made), but I picked it because it was a "halfway house" for both Americans and Germans before the Germans invaded through there in Dec '44. They tended to leave each other alone. The setting is thus calm, but a suspenseful calm, perfect for the foreboding, wintery mood of my story.

In addition, I think the dynamic of a scared German holding the gun on a seasoned but wounded American has more dramatic potential, especially with the German ordering the American around and then the American doesn't know what he's saying, and has to infer both purpose and cause for his captor's behavior from body language and tone of voice, making an already tense situation that much more tense.

The key would be to not be heavy-handed with any portion of it. I have a tendency to have really obvious symbolism and canned "dramatic" occurences that are really cliché, so the story would be difficult to write.

EDIT: Don't sweat it, Steerpike.

[Steerpike]

EDIT: Don't sweat it, Steerpike.

Still, I'm half-expecting someone to ask me why I want to write garbage instead of something artistic.

I never liked writing mind-bending drama. I always wanted to do something more along the lines of dark fantasy. For some reason, that seems almost heretical among the diehard academics and artistes.

[Cain]

Too bad Ray is gone. He has the perfect opportunity to **** ALL over zerokewl/Trilemma/Non Sequitur with this perfect moron of a thread.

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=361924

:rolleyes: and a half.

Still, I'm half-expecting someone to ask me why I want to write garbage instead of something artistic.

I never liked writing mind-bending drama. I always wanted to do something more along the lines of dark fantasy. For some reason, that seems almost heretical among the diehard academics and artistes.

They're just not on your wavelength. I suffer from a tendency in my teachers to reject historical fiction because drama gets stuffed up with too much history, so I'm not getting any help. You need to find someone that IS on your wavelength. Only then will you learn if you have the skill that it takes to make it in your field.

[Steerpike]

Too bad Ray is gone. He has the perfect opportunity to **** ALL over zerokewl/Trilemma/Non Sequitur with this perfect moron of a thread.

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=361924

:rolleyes: and a half.

So basically, he's out to prove that mainstream music is corporate-packaged garbage meant to appeal to youths who think they're being rebellious?

Why does he think we needed a study to know that mainstream music is crap? All he's doing is creating a flame-fest against rap/hip-hop.

They're just not on your wavelength. I suffer from a tendency in my teachers to reject historical fiction because drama gets stuffed up with too much history, so I'm not getting any help. You need to find someone that IS on your wavelength. Only then will you learn if you have the skill that it takes to make it in your field.

The problem is that I can't find many people to take me seriously. D&D and Star Trek have been so extensively parodied and cliched that it's getting harder and harder to find someone who appreciates Robert Jordan or Orson Scott Card.

Again, I write things with a dark fantasy, but almost everyone I talk to keeps saying "That's not my thing." I feel like I was born several decades, or even several centuries too late. All anyone I ever turn to for criticism anymore wants to hear is pretentious, artistic drama that (if you cna understand it) emotionally rapes you.

[Riva]

You know your story sucks when the two main writers of the thread don't even care to acknowledge it. :(


The problem is that I can't find many people to take me seriously. D&D and Star Trek have been so extensively parodied and cliched that it's getting harder and harder to find someone who appreciates Robert Jordan or Orson Scott Card.

Again, I write things with a dark fantasy, but almost everyone I talk to keeps saying "That's not my thing." I feel like I was born several decades, or even several centuries too late. All anyone I ever turn to for criticism anymore wants to hear is pretentious, artistic drama that (if you cna understand it) emotionally rapes you.

I liked all your ideas a lot. 50% of my book collection is fantasy novels. Eddings, Fiest, Tolkien, Jordan, McCaffrey, Keaneally, Salvatore, James, etc.

[Cain]

You know your story sucks when the two main writers of the thread don't even care to acknowledge it. :(

I love you, but I actually haven't read it. Something about driving?

:( :( :( I'm sorry.

Steerpike: In that case, it would be best to attempt to combine the two. Paying homage to the masters of the genre is great, and wanting to write like them is natural, but in order for something to "become" people's thing is that you have to make appropriate concessions so that a majority fanbase will find familiarity along with the new. It's fickle and many people go too overboard in the name of sales, so this water needs to be treaded lightly, sure enough. But one of the primary criticisms I'm getting is that my love for historical conflict gets in the way of the basics of character development. I don't see how it could be relevent to know what my war-torn soldier's parents' names are, because my sweet tooth for historical accuracy and meticulously historical detail is overshadowing the human component of my story. Rather than thinking you were born too late, it's probably better to understand what is inaccessible about your work to the majority of people and work to combine the two to stay true to both your artistic motivation and the reader's expectation. It's finnicky and if rock n' roll teaches us anything, it's very difficult to not err too far on the side of accessibility. But it's something the stubborn artist needs to learn how to do if he/she doesn't want to starve.

[jpj]

You know your story sucks when the two main writers of the thread don't even care to acknowledge it. :(
I read your story when you first posted it, and quite enjoyed it. I didn't respond because I didn't have anything witty enough or worthy in response to it.

[Steerpike]

You know your story sucks when the two main writers of the thread don't even care to acknowledge it. :(

Sorry, I'm just really having a rough night. I'll read it when I get back from work.

[Slapping Penguin]

Your story rocked Riva I said that before I couldn't stop laughing honestly.

Cain: what you said about the Russian is mabye there is a reason for that he has to keep him alive.

But I still think the German as hostage would work better. What did you think of the possible ending?

I had an idea for a novel once but I'm wondering if I should post it.

[Riva]

Thanks for the applause, everyone. Steerpike, you need to lighten up about your grim gothic novels. :)

[Cain]

Just read your story Jason. It was quite hysterical. :lol:

[Slapping Penguin]

Now RIVA you asked about your story I will ask about my Avatar. Who likes it. Where abouts in Adelaide do you live mate. My parents use to live there.

[Riva]

Avatar's great, SP. Quite good work. I live in Cairns, but my mother is from Adelaide, which is why I support the Crows. :)

[Thor]

Cain, can you explain to me what your avatar means?

[BoboTheRagingHobo]

Now RIVA you asked about your story I will ask about my Avatar. Who likes it.

Opeth = nap time

Penguins = cool

So I am stuck at half and half, so meh.

NP - Black Mages - Force Your Way

[Slapping Penguin]

Cool I went to Cairns as a kid when I was about 8. It was good fun its pretty nice there.

Opeth = nap time

Penguins = cool

:lol:

[Slapping Penguin]

Whos the excuse to.

[Cain]

Whos the excuse to.

Parents.

Say you're going to a theme park.

[jpj]

They know I don't like theme parks. Plus, theres none around here.

I'll make it clearer: They know I'm going to be with my boyfriend, they just don't want me going to his house.. which I will be doing tomorrow. :naughty:
You're going to volunteer at a hospital/old person's home.

[MBS]

They know I don't like theme parks. Plus, theres none around here.

I'll make it clearer: They know I'm going to be with my boyfriend, they just don't want me going to his house.. which I will be doing tomorrow. :naughty:

Say you're going to perform oral sex on him. :naughty:

Or you can say that you're just gonna go around town, maybe to the movies, whatever you feel like doing.

[Riva]

Go for a hiking/picnic. That gets you all day, explains why you are both sweaty, etc, etc

[Slapping Penguin]

Hire a hotel room or just F uck in the KFC bogs. :naughty:

That way you can go to the shops.

[Cain]

MetalHead: I have acquired a fondness for the appearence of Angelic and Demonic sigils since doing a project on Dante's Inferno for a college course. I like the orderly way they look and I find the mythology surrounding them fascinating, especially with regard to demons. My avatar is the sigil of the demon Astaroth, one of the top Generals of Lucifer's legions of souls. He is a demon who believes he was relegated by God to his position in Hell unfairly, and he is in command and knowledge of all things to do with the liberal arts, which in my case is rather fitting. :) Sigils are originally emblems of rank within heaven, and they serve the same purpose in Hell, where the demons retained their sigils from the days when they were once angels. I speculate that it is an ever-present reminder of when the demons tasted perfection as angels and it causes them pain to look at and burns their skin like a brand. In magikal and Satanic rituals, the sigil is used to conjure the demon in order to fulfill a certain task for the person doing the conjuring: since demons supposedly retain knowledge of all the creative things they were endowed with as angels, it is in this way that they can be useful to people seeking their aid.

The coolest thing about demons is that nearly all come from other mythologies of deities, and were relegated to Hell as a way for the church to explain the presence of pagan religions in historical societies like Greece and Rome. All of Egypt's gods (Horus, Ra), Greece's Gods (Aphrodite, who I suspect became Lilith although I'm not sure, and others) Norse Gods and Demons (the Giants) and especially Sumerian and Ammonite (pre-Judaism Semetic Gods) gods are all now demons in Hell, described as "fallen angels" who sided with Lucifer in the war in Heaven.

EDIT: Astoroth's sigil is one of the few I've seen that actually look like the Sigil of Baphomet, Bartender's avatar. The Baphomet is not Lucifer's actual sigil but for some reason it is most commonly associated with alternative magic and Satanism in much the same way the six-pointed Star of David is also associated with Solomon.

[Riva]

EDIT: Astoroth's sigil is one of the few I've seen that actually look like the Sigil of Baphomet, Bartender's avatar. The Baphomet is not Lucifer's actual sigil but for some reason it is most commonly associated with alternative magic and Satanism in much the same way the six-pointed Star of David is also associated with Solomon.

The Baphomet was actually a holy symbol associated with the Knights Templar. When the corrupt King Philip the III (I think) conspired with the iniquitine Pope Clement something (again I think), they spread the rumour it was a foul symbol, to further discredit the order...

The symbol's association with the Peacock Angel is the work of stupid goth emo fags.
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From my friend's textbook

Baphomet:The Pentagram Connection

As we examined on another page, it was the nineteenth century Occultist, Eliphas Lévi who is falsely credited for first differentiated between the good and evil aspects of the five-pointed star or pentagram. Lévi envisioned two points down, as being magical in a good way, while one point down was indicative of the opposite magical reaction. Whether inverted or straight up, today's society views and perhaps wrongly so the pentagram as a symbol of evil. Let's look at some of the history of the pentagram to understand where along the way it changed from an inherently good thing to a perception of wrong.


The Pentagram: Origins And Historical Usage

The pentagram at left is the traditional pentagram with the five points of the star, one up two down enclosed inside a circle. This style of pentagram has existed for countless thousands of years, first dating back to around 3500 BC where it was used in Ancient Mesopotamia, at least latterly, by rulers as a symbol indicating that their power breadth the four corners of the known world.

The early Greeks called the pentagram the Pentalpha. Pent for the number five and Alpha being the first letter of the Greek alphabet. The Pythagoreans considered its geometric qualities to be symbolic, both mathematically and metaphysically, of absolute perfection.

To the Hebrews the five points of the pentagram were tied to the Pentateuch which is the first five books of the bible and represented as a whole the concept of truth. Although occasionally referred to as the Seal of Solomon, it is important to note that this is incorrect and that the Star of David or double triangle is the true Seal of Solomon.


The Pentagram As A Christian Symbol

Perhaps most curious is the pentagram as it relates to early Christianity. Up until medieval times, the five points of the pentagram represented the five wounds of Christ on the Cross. During these times the pentagram, so criticized by modern Fundamentalist Christians, carried no evil implications at all and in fact, in a lesser way than the cross, was symbolic of the Savior.

Constantine the Roman Emperor who converted to Christianity, and whose mother Helena discovered the religious relic known as the True Cross, chose to use the pentagram on his seal and amulet. In the ensuing church that grew from Constantine's takeover of the Roman Empire, the cross became the chosen symbol of Christianity rather than the pentagram. Perhaps ironic, that by a mere choice of iconography, the pentagram could have been hanging around the necks of millions of Christians worldwide.


The Pentagram As A Symbol Of Evil

Beginning with the destruction of the Knights Templar by the combined treachery of King Philip IV and Pope Clement V, the inquisition of the church moved into full swing starting with the Templars, who fell partly under accusations of worshipping an idol called Baphomet. It is highly unlikely that the Baphomet of the Templars, if it existed at all, resembled anything like Lévi's Baphomet, which we examined on another page.

Still the order was squashed by torture, death and Papal dissolution by 1314. Like the torture of the Albigensian Cathari, and the aforementioned Templar order, the church began to destroy all that opposed the rule of the Holy See. Alleged heretics, Pagans witches all met with the same fate of conversion or death.

It was at this time that the horned gods still worshipped by the peasants and folk peoples of Europe, such as Pan became the accepted imagery for the Devil by the Christian Church. Therefore in the eyes of the church if the peasants worshipped false, evil gods, then the Pentagram symbol, used by those people as a symbol of security, must therefore be evil as well.


The Nineteenth Century And The Birth Of The Baphomet Sigil

Eliphas Lévi, was the first to adapt the inverted pentagram shown right as symbolic of evil. In the Middle Ages the upright pentagram represented summer, while the inverted or points down pentagram was a representation of winter. It is rumored that Lévi formed two illustrations of the pentagram. The first, his good orientation, featured the five points of a man within the points of the Pentagram. This is called the microcosmic man and represents the four elements, earth, wind, fire and water represented as the man's limbs with his head representing the spirit.

Next to the Microcosmic Man, he is alleged to have drawn the inverted pentagram as the goat's head or Baphomet. In so doing, he formed for the first time, a differentiation between good and evil symbolized by the pentagram.

The Baphomet sigil or simply Baphomet has become the official symbol of The Church Of Satan, which was started by Anton Szandor La Vey [La Vey was a dumbarse - Ed.] in 1966. Satanists and pseudo-Satanists have used this sigil all over the world. The illustration below shows the two sketches attributed to Lévi. While this illustration has been connected to Lévi, our research shows the earliest use of this image was in "A Pictorial History of Magic and the Supernatural" by Maurice Bessy originally published in French in 1961 and making its first English translation in 1964, many years after the death of Lévi.


Conclusions And Observations

Napoleon Bonaparte once said, "What is history, but a fable agreed upon?" As I've shown the Pentagram has devolved from a one-time symbol of faith and knowledge to today being representative of all that is evil. We have also seen how the artwork of one man, Eliphas Lévi became associated with the evil aspect of the pentagram and an accepted image of the Christian Devil through his androgynous illustration of the Baphomet.

It is highly unlikely that the Templar Knights worshipped a demonic entity in the image of the goat, but due to the chain of events shown in these pages, it has come to be an accepted belief or to quote Napoleon, "a fable agreed upon" by many Fundamentalist Christians.

[Bazarov]

In 8th grade I attempted to read Dante's Inferno, but I couldn't really understand what I was reading, I only read maybe the first 20 pages something about a lion or something blocking this dude's pathway over a hill. I think I'm going to try and read it again soon. I haven't read in a while.

[Cain]

Rather like the pagan gods I mentioned being relegated to mere demons in Hell as a way to explain away the existance of those religions, and thus the idea that pagan religions are synonymous with Satanism, even though there's no relation.

Very interesting Jason, and I love the Napolean quote especially. He balances wisdom with humor and insolence.

"Give me enough medals and I'll win you any war."

:)

[Riva]

Well, if you have ever read some of Eddings fantasy novels, he has a rather clever way of dealing with multiple religions. Basically, all the gods exist, and are aware of each other, and it is mankind's perversions that give rise to the need to have only one kind of God.

I mean, some people are really stupid. Christians and Muslims worship the same God, for crying out loud.

Lucas: We should make a mythology thread. I've always been interested in the mythologies of various cultures, myself. I've read a lot of the classic fiction works, such as Homer's Illiad and Odyssey, Grendel, and The Bible.

[Kingofdudes]

So it looks like a hurricane is gonna hit my area. If the hurricane keeps going in the same path, I have to evacuate Saturday morning. Oh Joy!

[Bazarov]

So it looks like a hurricane is gonna hit my area. If the hurricane keeps going in the same path, I have to evacuate Saturday morning. Oh Joy!

That sucks man, back when California had those giant wild fires I almost had to evacuate. The sky was so black. It was scary.

[Riva]

So it looks like a hurricane is gonna hit my area. If the hurricane keeps going in the same path, I have to evacuate Saturday morning. Oh Joy!

Pfft... my town gets cyclones every year, most of the time they die down when they come within thirty kms of the coastline.

[Kingofdudes]

Pfft... my town gets cyclones every year, most of the time they die down when they come within thirty kms of the coastline.

Meh, my parents are paranoid + we will all kill each other if we go a few days without electricity.

Oh well, at least I get some time off (Too bad I dont get paid for any of it :upset: )

[Cain]

Well, if you have ever read some of Eddings fantasy novels, he has a rather clever way of dealing with multiple religions. Basically, all the gods exist, and are aware of each other, and it is mankind's perversions that give rise to the need to have only one kind of God.

I mean, some people are really stupid. Christians and Muslims worship the same God, for crying out loud.

Lucas: We should make a mythology thread. I've always been interested in the mythologies of various cultures, myself. I've read a lot of the classic fiction works, such as Homer's Illiad and Odyssey, Grendel, and The Bible.

Grendel is BRILLIANT. Best depiction of a dragon I've ever seen. And my tastes run towards folklore. The British "Black Dog" tales that inspired Hound of the Baskervilles are my favorites.

Bedtime. Work tomorrow. Good night.

[Slapping Penguin]

Farewell

[Jom]

Sorry for interrupting any conversation that's going on, but I want to fake-gloat about baseball.

Two-for-two with an RBI, only one of the game. Final score: 1-0.

It was a real barnburner, or whatever the catchphrase is. Heh.

I've been really trying to focus on taking the ball opposite way. First at bat, single to right-center. Third at bat, double to right center to score the runner. :cool:

I should probably clarify that I bat right-handed, heh.

And I caught the whole game. Pitcher threw a two-hitter, and rarely shook me off. It was great.

And it doesn't seem like much, but I needed a game like this, so hopefully the season will finish alright.

/end fake-arrogant gloating

Anyway. Hello, all.

[magicbus]

Hi guys. CCR was fun. What's going on in here?

[Dark_Horse_335]

Hey, who knows what banned user* I am.

*loser, you should see the post I made

[TTTSNB]

Well, if you have ever read some of Eddings fantasy novels, he has a rather clever way of dealing with multiple religions. Basically, all the gods exist, and are aware of each other, and it is mankind's perversions that give rise to the need to have only one kind of God.

I mean, some people are really stupid. Christians and Muslims worship the same God, for crying out loud.

Lucas: We should make a mythology thread. I've always been interested in the mythologies of various cultures, myself. I've read a lot of the classic fiction works, such as Homer's Illiad and Odyssey, Grendel, and The Bible.
123. A mythology thread would be most excellent.

[Dark_Horse_335]

123. A mythology thread would be most excellent.

I know a bit about mythology, mostly ROman and Norse. I would definitley post in something like that

[TTTSNB]

I know a bit about mythology, mostly ROman and Norse. I would definitley post in something like that
Yeah me too. Its a subject that interests me.

[Bazarov]

The book Grendel, does it have anything to do with the Grendel in Beowulf?

[Illmatic]

Too bad Ray is gone. He has the perfect opportunity to **** ALL over zerokewl/Trilemma/Non Sequitur with this perfect moron of a thread.

What the hell is he trying to prove? He's so stupid he makes my head hurt. How the hell does this guy become a mod? I'm mystified.

[magicbus]

The book Grendel, does it have anything to do with the Grendel in Beowulf?

I'm pretty sure it's the same Grendel.

In addition to taking a class on it this past year, I've always been interested in Greek mythology. Like a lot. A myth thread would be cool.

[Riva]

Should I make it here, or Politics? I'm thinking of writing a short article about the Baphomet, or something, which could tie it into R&M, what with all the folk metal, etc, we have. What do you guys think?

[Illmatic]

All I know is that I felt like a mental midget after reading that...

[Otherside]

What the hell is he trying to prove? He's so stupid he makes my head hurt. How the hell does this guy become a mod? I'm mystified.

I am as well. I hardly ever see him mod anyways, just argue with everyone.

[Arucard]

In answer to all questions about why im on mx, i got back from the pub, i wasn't getting drunk here, and i went on my computer to talk to my girlfriend, and this thread is my homepage. So i posted first, and the post translates into :

'Man, im so happy. We went into a pub and Trivium were playing, so we stayed and put Avenged Sevenfold and Iron Maiden on.'

I take it you guys are talking about Zerokewl? And yes, he is a dumbass. Chill out, he uses his modding abilities to prove a point in the pit, so what?

/You guys are just jealous that i can get hammered and you can't, you Americans with your dumb drinking laws.

[Six Foot Revolver]

Should I make it here, or Politics? I'm thinking of writing a short article about the Baphomet, or something, which could tie it into R&M, what with all the folk metal, etc, we have. What do you guys think?
I would make it in politics if I was you :thumb:

[Illmatic]

/You guys are just jealous that i can get hammered and you can't, you Americans with your dumb drinking laws.

:lol:

don't delude yourself, pal. We may not be able to go to bars but we can drink practically whenever we want.

[Riva]

Not to mention I can get drinks in pubs, clubs and bottle shops here in Australia... :)

[Arucard]

:lol:

don't delude yourself, pal. We may not be able to go to bars but we can drink practically whenever we want.

Ahh, but bars!!!! No bars for you young man. :upset:

But yah, i promise not to come on here after being drunk. My typing was made worse by several of my friends falling onto/over me.

[Lord Abortion]

the myth thread would be very interesting and the knights templar association is correct to my knowlege, the baphomet was an early symbol of christianity, so instead of the cross, the christian faith could just as easily have had the baphomet as it's symbol
so I re-edit my post back to baphomet because Jason said I was originally correct-

Again- Josh= teh fayle

[Josh]

the myth thread would be very interesting and the knights templar association is correct to my knowlege, the baphomet was an early symbol of christianity, so instead of the cross, the christian faith could just as easily have had the baphomet as it's symbol
i think you mean pentagram not baphomet, as the baphomet is the satanic one. but yeh, i see what you're getting at.

Beowulf / Grendel is one of the most awesome stories ever, Homer's Iliad and Odessey are great as well, i have a version that was translated in the '30s.

EDIT: dammit Ollie, you edited.

[Lord Abortion]

i think you mean pentagram not baphomet, as the baphomet is the satanic one. but yeh, i see what you're getting at.

Beowulf / Grendel is one of the most awesome stories ever, Homer's Iliad and Odessey are great as well, i have a version that was translated in the '30s.

EDIT: dammit Ollie, you edited.
I have Beowulf somewhere, I haven't read it for ages though- I got paradise lost, which is excellent...

and also- Josh= fayles

[Riva]

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=362635

Okay guys, here is the mythology thread.

i think you mean pentagram not baphomet, as the baphomet is the satanic one. but yeh, i see what you're getting at.

Beowulf / Grendel is one of the most awesome stories ever, Homer's Iliad and Odessey are great as well, i have a version that was translated in the '30s.

EDIT: dammit Ollie, you edited.

Actually, Ollie was in the right.

[Lord Abortion]

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=362635

Okay guys, here is the mythology thread.



Actually, Ollie was in the right.
haha... i'm re-editing my post I officially rule now

[NJMetalMeister]

bleh, i just prepacked all of my stuff for when i move back home to the states in two weeks, and im going to need to send like 4 or 5 more packages home to ensure i get everything there, and the last package i sent cost me €50 for shipping, and it was rather light, most of the stuff i have to send now are books :upset:

So much for me trying to get to switzerland before i leave, i wont be able to afford it

[Josh]

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=362635

Okay guys, here is the mythology thread.



Actually, Ollie was in the right.
/is confused.
in your long post, you said that the baphomet was the satanic symbol, the inverted pentagram, while the regular pentagram was a symbol of christianity, which means that christians wouldn't use a baphomet as their symbol, doesn't it?

[Steerpike]

Riva, I couldn't find your story. Can you link it to me?

[Six Foot Revolver]

/is confused.
in your long post, you said that the baphomet was the satanic symbol, the inverted pentagram, while the regular pentagram was a symbol of christianity, which means that christians wouldn't use a baphomet as their symbol, doesn't it?
No because they would have a normal pentagram which isn't a baphomet

Riva, I couldn't find your story. Can you link it
to me?
Seeing that you are a ninja pirate can I be a cyber pirate?

[Bartender]

Riva, I couldn't find your story. Can you link it to me?

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8575704&postcount=19847

Hopefully that's what he means.


Also, I'm still mystified as to why we have the 2008 Olympics in ****ing China. WTF?

I'm actually looking forward to that. Should be hilarious.

[Six Foot Revolver]

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8575704&postcount=19847

Hopefully that's what he means.



I'm actually looking forward to that. Should be hilarious.
Yeah that's the story he meant I think



:lol:



In other news, never work in an estate agents. I am now for work experience and it is so boring :upset:

[Bartender]

I never did any work experience. Not entirely sure how I managed to get out of it, but I did. My sister is in Sweden at the moment, but when she gets back she's starting her work experience in a hotel's kitchen.

[clearvision]

I did work experience in an office, I spent most of the time playing table football and drinking tea in the cafeteria...

[munky_magik]

My work experience was packaging cutlery for Airline meals. :(

[Six Foot Revolver]

I am posting while at work how hXc am I :cool:

[trev913]

No work experience here... I just work for my dad every now and then.

[Shattered_Future]

I'm too young to get a REAL job (one with a paycheck)

My only work experience is babysitting...I've got to say that is one of the best jobs in the world. You get paid over minimum wage (these people pay me over, anyway) to sit around, watch tv, and play videogames with their kids.

Its freaking heaven in jobly form. :p

[GaggingOrder]

I'm too young to have a job. So my mom gives me $5 a week. :upset:

[Jom]

Ramsey rather famously requested that his postcount be reset, as a statement about how much he cares about postcount. Non Sequiter, as we know, used to be zerokewl, but I believe his account was somehow deleted and when he was modded he retained the account's joindate but lost all of his previous posts.

Nah, zero just reset his postcount. I mean, who else has a joindate of May 1985? He can tinker with all that. It didn't get deleted.

And yes, I realized that this is an old post, and that I posted previously after this was posted. I just didn't go back far enough.

Anyway: I would comment on the stories, but I don't think I would be helpful.

From that classics class I had at uni, I could probably help that mythology thread, if needed.

[Bartender]

Well DBJ reset his postcount/join date and changed his name and such. zero doesn't have the power to do it himself.

[Arucard]

Zero makes me sick. That dumb thread he stickied in the pit is the epitome of Mod power abuse.

[Faster Fingers]

Sooo... why am I banned? I made one double post but I figure since I have about one post per day this week that wasn't a big deal.

Hi guys. Watched a cool movie by Iforgethisnamebuthe'sasian. Wok Kar Wai maybe?

Anyway, it was pretty sweet. My sock puppet movie did not go over well but I saw the best movie ever last night. Well, 2 very awesome movies. One of the teachers here (film, not video so I don't have him) made a movie about Zombies in America and them trying to continue to be considered animals so they can be on the endangered list and keep sanctuary. It was hilarious. The other was about him and his friends who went to a roadside ice cream place called Candy Mansion, eating a rediculous ammount then puking in their lawn. SOunds awful but it was hilarious.

[Jom]

It isn't stickied anymore, though. It's in P&WI.

And having an opinion doesn't really mean abuse of power, like the opinion or not.

Sooo... why am I banned? I made one double post but I figure since I have about one post per day this week that wasn't a big deal.

No exceptions, yo.

I bet that's it, anyway. I can't even figure out where me and Steerpike double posted but we were banned anyway.

Bartender gave you a link earlier, you just weren't online when he did... or you just passed over it or something.

[Cain]

Sooo... why am I banned? I made one double post but I figure since I have about one post per day this week that wasn't a big deal.

I bet that's it, anyway. I can't even figure out where me and Steerpike double posted but we were banned anyway.

EDIT: checked. You were definitely banned for the double post. No exceptions anymore. :-/

[Arucard]

Ahh, alright.

Still, it was stickied for abit. That is so dumb.

[Faster Fingers]

Wow... some serious cracking down. Oh well. I'm just pised I don't have my avatar.

[ArcLite]

Sup, fellas. So I just watched the video of Pink Floyd at Live 8 and it was sweet. I got goosebumps like 10 times during Comfortably Numb. Very good to see them playing together again.

[Dark_Horse_335]

Zero makes me sick. That dumb thread he stickied in the pit is the epitome of Mod power abuse.
The mother****er banned me for a week for making one spam post.
PS I'm TheDMV

:angry: :angry:

Trilemma = The worst Mod <Should I usertitle this?

[Faster Fingers]

Dancin' Man - one day.
Community thread double post.

Again, sorry.

Dammit. I still can't seem to appreciate PF. They just don't seem to sound right to me. The songs always seem to drag.

Wow, I've been banned twice ever. That is pretty good for 10.5K posts. The first was in one of the early (as in a year ago) post in this thread and be banned.

[Arucard]

Cj : Agreed. It was just stunning.

And DMV : Yes do it. Only two mods are worse than him, NPC and that Metalcore mod.

:angry:

[Cain]

JESUS. ZERO PISSES ME OFF SO MUCH.

"Blacks aren't oppressed anymore." WTF?

I really don't get it. He's making a dumb thread that's supposed to be a "scientific study" based on his own subjective opinion about subjectively chosen songs. The man could know squat about anything and still pull a thread like that out of his ***, point to it, and say "see? see?!"

Which is exactly what he does in every debate. How the hell does he become a mod? He did more of those retarded "I ban if you post" threads than any other mod on the site. He did it OVER and over again, because of his glee for doing so. He's totally immature and he's one of the most stubborn arguers in the Politics forum. The man has such incredible powers of selective reading and mind-over-fact it boggles my mind just trying to keep up with his latest insult to my intelligence.

EDIT: Banned five times in 10 months. I'm kind of a loser. :-/

[Faster Fingers]

DFelon? DFelon is a pretty terrible mod. He's a fine guy if he likes you but if he doesn't, hell troll and then ban you.

I never saw the problem with NPC though. I don't seem him often I guess.


Joe - how much longer are you banned for? It was a 2 week ban right?>

[ArcLite]

JESUS. ZERO PISSES ME OFF SO MUCH.

"Blacks aren't oppressed anymore." WTF?

I really don't get it. He's making a dumb thread that's supposed to be a "scientific study" based on his own subjective opinion about subjectively chosen songs. The man could know squat about anything and still pull a thread like that out of his ***, point to it, and say "see? see?!"

Which is exactly what he does in every debate. How the hell does he become a mod? He did more of those retarded "I ban if you post" threads than any other mod on the site. He did it OVER and over again, because of his glee for doing so. He's totally immature and he's one of the most stubborn arguers in the Politics forum. The man has such incredible powers of selective reading and mind-over-fact it boggles my mind just trying to keep up with his latest insult to my intelligence.

EDIT: Banned five times in 10 months. I'm kind of a loser. :-/

Simple solution, my friend...Do as I do, and don't go in the pit, ever.

[Arucard]

About 3 days. I gave up with the whole 'Im being opressed' thing. I thought it was dumb that it was so long, and that TheChad got let of his ban even though he made other accounts and spammed up the site area with insults :/

[Six Foot Revolver]

Cj : Agreed. It was just stunning.

And DMV : Yes do it. Only two mods are worse than him, NPC and that Metalcore mod.

:angry:
Subtle dagger?

[Cain]

I never got it with NPC either, I just thought he was strict and unforgiving to the users who deliberately incurred his wrath, rather like Subtledagger.

Although I admit, the image I get when I think of NPC's mod stature is rather like a sentient tank, grinning ear to ear because he has a mod cannon and you don't. But I don't know anything about why he's considered abusive.

Simple solution, my friend...Do as I do, and don't go in the pit, ever.

But I like Politics...

Ehhhh.

[Jom]

No bans on this end :cool:

If you have such a problem with zero, then just ignore him. If you spam, you get caught. There really aren't any excuses.

And, if people are STUPID enough to play the "Post in here and get banned" thread, then they deserve to be banned.

I'm not defending anyone here, but I'm just saying: if you screw up, he'll hammer you for it. If you don't like what he says, just ignore him.

Sure, you have to really bite the bullet. But again, it's the Internet.

///

Otherside: what was your reply?

[Otherside]

ATTN: Jom: You deleted your post in Zakath's thread.. I replied to it just as you did too :upset:

And Cain, I thought I was the only one opposed to those post here and your banned thread. At the time, everyone here was praising it the greatest thing to ever happen to the Pit or whatever. I thought it was retarded. And you're talk about Zero is 100% correct. He's debates in the political forum are just so stupid. Possibly my favorite moment in MX history was Renaissance totally owning him in there.

[Faster Fingers]

I'd have to say that 'Tender, Jelle and Burt are my three favorite mods by a lot.

[Cain]

I don't have a problem with him making those banning threads. I have a problem with his demeanor about it. By the fourth one he had the air of a gawky, insecure teenager who finally attained the widespread support of his peer group and so proceeded to run his one successfully funny gimmick into the cold, stale ground. Kind of lame.

In other words, "Look, it's still funny, right guys? ....

Guys?"

[Otherside]

I'd have to say that 'Tender, Jelle and Burt are my three favorite mods by a lot.

Add Numbers' to that, and I agree 100%

[Arucard]

ATTN: Jom: You deleted your post in Zakath's thread.. I replied to it just as you did too :upset:

And Cain, I thought I was the only one opposed to those post here and your banned thread. At the time, everyone here was praising it the greatest thing to ever happen to the Pit or whatever. I thought it was retarded. And you're talk about Zero is 100% correct. He's debates in the political forum are just so stupid. Possibly my favorite moment in MX history was Renaissance totally owning him in there.

Any chance you can hit me up with a Hellsing episode where he says the 'In the name of God, the eternal spirits of the undead shall be cast into eternal ****ation. Amen.' thing, as i need the soundbite for one of my bands songs.

[Cain]

Add Numbers' to that, and I agree 100%

Too bad I never see him. Maybe it's his picture, but I think of numbers as the "dude" mod. He's like a surfer of few words.

Then again, I haven't seen him post regularly, so my perception is probably mistaken.

[ATM]

My favorite mods are Bartender, Jelle, and Zappa.

[Dark_Horse_335]

I think 307 is a good mod, one of the better ones. I've heard joshmay is good but he onced banned me for ;-*. He said it gave him an STD :upset: SubtleDagger is also really strict, and now that Strum, one of the cooler Mxers is a mod, he is really strict.

:rooleyes:

The best mods are Bartender, Superpeer, 307, and DBJ though I've never really met him

EDIT: oh and I've usertitled that phrase, I think I'll try and steal his avatar and right DEMOD ME on it. ...Maybe I'll make a gimmick to destroy him too.

[Mr. Squiggles]

My favorite mods are Bartender, Jelle, and Zappa.

Yeah, those are good mods. Except Bartender -rep me for a kinda spam post. I guess I deserved it :upset:

[Dark_Horse_335]

Who likes my new avatar?

[ATM]

I think 307 is a good mod, one of the better ones. I've heard joshmay is good but he onced banned me for ;-*. He said it gave him an STD :upset: SubtleDagger is also really strict, and now that Strum, one of the cooler Mxers is a mod, he is really strict.

:rooleyes:

The best mods are Bartender, Superpeer, 307, and DBJ though I've never really met him

EDIT: oh and I've usertitled that phrase, I think I'll try and steal his avatar and right DEMOD ME on it. ...Maybe I'll make a gimmick to destroy him too.

You do realize this is just the internet, right?

[MBS]

My favorite mods are Strum, 'tender, the Pear, 307, Brain Squirmin' Like a Toad, and DBJ (even though he won't merge/name change my account :upset: )

[Mr. Squiggles]

Who likes my new avatar?

Wow, pretty cool if I do say so myself.

[Mr. Squiggles]

I'm fond of the mods in this thread/forum. Pit mods.. eh, not so much. NPC is kind of a dick.

Yeah, all the mods here are cool :thumb:

[MBS]

Who likes my new avatar?

You did that with paint huh?

I'll photoshop something better for you.

[superpeer]

NPC is cool if you know him.

[Josh]

generally i stay out of the pit, i find it's just annoying because of all the crap threads that are in there. occasionally i go in the Politics part. i've got no reason not to like mods though, as i've never been banned for anything.

NP: Wintersun - Battle against time

[lunch998]

I like Wintermute, as well as the R&M mods, and those are basically the only ones I've ever come in contact with. DBJ is a good guy too.

[Otherside]

The Pit is fun for general discussion, but of course there's no real content going on there.

[Dark_Horse_335]

You did that with paint huh?

I'll photoshop something better for you.
Awesome, I would totally love you for that :)

NPC is cool if you know him.
You being a mod, who do you think abuses their powers?

[Josh]

The Pit is fun for general discussion, but of course there's no real content going on there.
that's why i don't really like it. also, you get the stupid spammers (Code Red, etc) in there, and the spam threads which have no point.

which Mod is Trilemma a secondary account for? (assuming he's not a primary account, as he's been a member for a long time and has under 200 posts)

[ATM]

You being a mod, who do you think abuses their powers?


You really need to relax. Just because you got banned for a week doesn't mean you should get your panties in a twist.

[MBS]

Trilemma = Non Sequiter = zerokewl9999


Is anyone eating eggs for breakfast?

[Josh]

Trilemma = Non Sequiter = zerokewl9999


Is anyone eating eggs for breakfast?
ah ok.
breakfast? tis 6.20 pm here! i'm going to have dinner sometime, probably egg & bacon, then i'm off to work for about 3 hours (only a part-time job at a pub, in the restaurant part).

NP: 2Pac ft. Elton John - Ghetto Gospel. not a bad song as far as hip-hop type music goes.

[ATM]

I agree. I got banned for 2 weeks, and I didn't care much. It's not the mods you should be mad at, it's your fault for doin somethin stupid (horse c0ck hahaha).

Best...thread...ever

I got banned for posting a link to pr0n. I had only been here a few days and didn't know it was against the rules :/

Ah well, maybe someday that account will get unbanned.

[lunch998]

He (MYR/Mister Blue Sky) lives in California. It's 1:22 PM here (Eastern US), so I just ate some Cornflakes for breakfast/lunch.

That reminds me Malcom, what are using that account now?

[Mr. Squiggles]

Best...thread...ever

I got banned for posting a link to pr0n. I had only been here a few days and didn't know it was against the rules :/

Ah well, maybe someday that account will get unbanned.

I got banned once for making a vs. thread. That was stupid, I know

[Dark_Horse_335]

You really need to relax. Just because you got banned for a week doesn't mean you should get your panties in a twist.

You can't get banned for a week for one spam post, it's just not right.

[MBS]

He (MYR/Mister Blue Sky) lives in California. It's 1:22 PM here (Eastern US), so I just ate some Cornflakes for breakfast/lunch.

That reminds me Malcom, what are using that account now?

I dunno, it's been a year, time for some change I guess.

What are the dimensions for an avatar and the max size?

[lunch998]

Yea, I'll probably start posting more on Lunch in a couple days.

[ATM]

You can't get banned for a week for one spam post, it's just not right.

It really isn't a big deal.

MYR: 70x70

Lunch: Why did you use numbers in your user name anyway?

[Mr. Squiggles]

I dunno, it's been a year, time for some change I guess.

What are the dimensions for an avatar and the max size?

Max size for an avatar is 70 X 70 I think.

[Dark_Horse_335]

I dunno, it's been a year, time for some change I guess.

What are the dimensions for an avatar and the max size?
70 by 70 and I'll check on the other one.

Note: The maximum size of your custom image is 70 by 70 pixels or 19.5 KB (whichever is smaller).

[MBS]

Okay, so far I have this one...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v332/Clapton_Blues/shark_avatar.gif

I'm working on an animated one right now.

[lunch998]

It really isn't a big deal.

MYR: 70x70

Lunch: Why did you use numbers in your user name anyway?

This is my AIM name (because on AIM Lunch was taken), so when I signed up I just decided to use the same name.

When I think back and consider the alternatives, I'm glad I used the AIM name. Otherwise I would have pulled a JPJ (JPJrulestheworld) and have Ledzeppelinrox or something like that.

[Mr. Squiggles]

This is my AIM name (because on AIM Lunch was taken), so when I signed up I just decided to use the same name.

I hate when I sign up for crap and every name I can think of is allready in use. :angry:

[ATM]

I usually use KarmaPolice when I sign up for things. That account was the one that got banned, though.

[MBS]

Crap, ignore that link...

Edit: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v332/Clapton_Blues/Animationdemod.gif


That's enough for today. Photoshop's pissing me off.

[Illmatic]

I like Jelle, Bartender, and Numbers (of the mods I've encountered enough to form an opinion of). I really hate Non Sequitur. His thread in P&WI is actually even dumber than I thought. "Well, my great-grandparents many many years ago didn't turn to crime, so blacks in 2005 who live in Harlem shouldn't turn to crime either". Yes, that makes tons of sense. There's no doubt he's a hardcore Christian; he lives in a fantasy world where he thinks a bunch of good ideas in paper actually apply to the real world.

I haven't been banned yet, but given Non Sequitur's nature, I wouldn't be surprised if I was banned for one of my posts in his thread (which are relatively tame, but this is Non Sequitur we're talking about). Bah.

Well, nothing going on on this end. I'm going to be here alone for a whle.

[Otherside]

I like Jelle, Bartender, and Numbers (of the mods I've encountered enough to form an opinion of). I really hate Non Sequitur. His thread in P&WI is actually even dumber than I thought. "Well, my great-grandparents many many years ago didn't turn to crime, so blacks in 2005 who live in Harlem shouldn't turn to crime either". Yes, that makes tons of sense. There's no doubt he's a hardcore Christian; he lives in a fantasy world where he thinks a bunch of good ideas in paper actually apply to the real world.

I haven't been banned yet, but given Non Sequitur's nature, I wouldn't be surprised if I was banned for one of my posts in his thread (which are relatively tame, but this is Non Sequitur we're talking about). Bah.

Well, nothing going on on this end. I'm going to be here alone for a whle.

I don't get the comparison between white immigrants and black slaves. He seems to think they're some how related, or believes that the majority of black people actually immigrated over here.

[Dark_Horse_335]

Crap, ignore that link...

Edit: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v332/Clapton_Blues/Animationdemod.gif


That's enough for today. Photoshop's pissing me off.
<3

That is seriously awesome man. I love that slogan.

[Illmatic]

Moreover, he believes the actions of poor white immigrants in the early 20th century should dictate the actions of poor blacks in the early 21st century, even though there is a different context.

[Otherside]

It's as if he thinks that society has not changed since those times, and that underclass black society should be able to "take charge of the american spirit and work they're way up through the beautiful capitalist system of this coutnry" or something, and that "as long as you work hard, you'll get there". He seriously needs to actually go to these places and see how horribly wrong he is.

[ATM]

I bet he lives in a big house in the suburbs.

[Illmatic]

It's as if he thinks that society has not changed since those times, and that underclass black society should be able to "take charge of the american spirit and work they're way up through the beautiful capitalist system of this coutnry" or something, and that "as long as you work hard, you'll get there". He seriously needs to actually go to these places and see how horribly wrong he is.

Which makes me believe he is an upper-middle class Republican.

[BoboTheRagingHobo]

Down with Zerokewl!

/jumps on the bandwagon

/grabs a pitch fork and a torch

Hurrah!

Only thing I have against him is that he perma-banned my first account for posting in a spam thread in The Pit of all places...

[Kingofdudes]

Which makes me believe he is an upper-middle class Republican.
But he did vote for Kerry :confused:

[Otherside]

But he did vote for Kerry :confused:

That doesn't mean anything really, alot of republicans voted for Clinton when he ran.

[jpj]

Which makes me believe he is an upper-middle class Republican.
What's wrong with that?

/runs

[Illmatic]

But he did vote for Kerry :confused:

Besides, a few of the Republicans I know voted for Kerry.

[Bartender]

Wow... some serious cracking down. Oh well. I'm just pised I don't have my avatar.

Yeah, I banned you for a day for the double-post. Sorry. But I don't want to except people, because then the people I've already banned for such things would (rightly) get angry.


I bet that's it, anyway. I can't even figure out where me and Steerpike double posted but we were banned anyway.

I linked you to yours, when you said you couldn't find it. An attempt to make sure you didn't feel hard done by.

Joe - your ban has just over four days left.


As for all the mod talk, zero's never really had a chance to piss me off, though that Rap thread of his is pretty stupid. The only thing he's ever done/expressed that's gotten me annoyed is his opinion of homosexuals/-ity. And I like DFelon.

EDIT: not to say he's the only mod I like, or that's the sum of my opinions. I just remember they were mentioned.

NP The Brothers Johnson - Stomp

[Dark_Horse_335]

Down with Zerokewl!

/jumps on the bandwagon

/grabs a pitch fork and a torch

Hurrah!

Only thing I have against him is that he perma-banned my first account for posting in a spam thread in The Pit of all places...
All there is is spam

[MBS]

Ok tell me if this is ****ed up, my friend and I are talking about grades and look at what one of his teachers did.

******: what'd ****ing marechal give you?
DARKsideOFtheLED: c-
DARKsideOFtheLED: barely made it
DARKsideOFtheLED: hahaha
******: ****
******: i got a C+
******: son of a bitch
******: i was like WHAT THE ****
******: like
******: she was sitting there saying \like
******: oh well it'll be funny to get him in trouble
******: i was like you ****ing bitch
******: she gave me an "O"
******: but gave me a C+
******: im like
******: give me a ****ing "U"
******: and give me a B
DARKsideOFtheLED: wait, she knew she'd get you in trouble if you got a c+?
******: yeah
******: she knew i couldtn go to Paul if i got a C
DARKsideOFtheLED: that's so ****ed up
******: yeah it is
******: its so lame
******: even mrs ****ing chavez gave me a b- cause she knew that
******: i told her she could give me an N in effort if she gave me a B
******: so she did
DARKsideOFtheLED: did she do that
DARKsideOFtheLED: nice.
******: thats fukcing cool
******: but no
******: not marechal

Basically he got jipped out of seeing Paul McCartney because our English teacher sucks.

O's and N's and U's represent citizenship and work habits O's being highest and N's and U's being the lowest.

[Dark_Horse_335]

Ok tell me if this is ****ed up, my friend and I are talking about grades and look at what one of his teachers did.



Basically he got jipped out of seeing Paul McCartney because our English teacher sucks.

O's and N's and U's represent citizenship and work habits O's being highest and N's and U's being the lowest.
Wow, that's terrible; will he be able to go?

[MBS]

Wow, that's terrible; will he be able to go?

No, his parents said if he got one C then he couldn't go and they would sell the tickets on eBay.

[Kingofdudes]

No, his parents said if he got one C then he couldn't go and they would sell the tickets on eBay.
Holy crap his parents are retarded

[Whale and Wasp]

Ok tell me if this is ****ed up, my friend and I are talking about grades and look at what one of his teachers did.



Basically he got jipped out of seeing Paul McCartney because our English teacher sucks.

O's and N's and U's represent citizenship and work habits O's being highest and N's and U's being the lowest.
i'm confused :confused:

[BoboTheRagingHobo]

All there is is spam


You are good sir.

That is what I was kinda pointing out with that post there.


That teacher is a bitch. I would set her desk on fire because she is such a bitch.

[Dark_Horse_335]

You are good sir.

That is what I was kinda pointing out with that post there.



:upset:

Yeah, I kinda realized that.

[Illmatic]

Not only is the teacher a bitch, but the parents are assholes as well. Tough break for that kid.

This just in: Non Sequitur still pisses me off.

[ATM]

Me too, Ray. Me too.

NP: Mogwai - Like Herod

[NJMetalMeister]

Holy crap his parents are retarded

not really, sure it sucks, and although he may not have diserved the c, i dont blame the parents. My mom really needs to do that kind of stuff with my sister because although my sister has brains, shes just beyond lazy, and since she knows she wont get in trouble with a C, she just does the minimal amount of effort. Like my sister will do homework, and be too lazy to hand it in, and crap like that (dont even ask me why).

So once again, it is the teacher, not the parents who are retarded here.

[Dark_Horse_335]

This just in: Non Sequitur still pisses me off.





:eek:

I never would have guessed

[BoboTheRagingHobo]

:eek:


This is a post that qualifies as a bannination post.

I suggest you change your post to be something constructive before the time 'Tender comes around if you don't want to be banned.

Spam = no good.

[Cain]

Don't worry, Illmatic, we're owning him even if he doesn't want to admit it.

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=361924&page=11&pp=25
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=361924&page=12&pp=25

Join in the fun for those of you that want to fight against this sad misperception of the facts.

[NJMetalMeister]

I am not going to get into that argument, that is suicide for me as that i tend to have the complete opposite political/social views and ideals to those of the entire planet

[Stoic]

For those who know how dollars looks like, please tell me whether this is true: http://spiroskagadis.com/oaggelostoutromou.html

(in the second dollar column, in the second picture it's supposed to say "Osama")

[NJMetalMeister]

Those pictures have been around forever, its just total coincidence really. People who want to find conspiracy theories in things will find them if they just look hard enough, does not mean there is any truth behind it.

I mean yes you can fold a 20 dollar bill to look like that, but as i said, its pure hocus pocus conspiracy theory.

i mean the Osama thing is a perfect example of that, yes if you take what has been on the back of the 20 dollar bill for quite a bit longer than osama has even been alive, you can get the letters 0 S A M A because it does say 20 The United States of America, and those are all very common letters.

[Mr. Squiggles]

For those who know how dollars looks like, please tell me whether this is true: http://spiroskagadis.com/oaggelostoutromou.html

(in the second dollar column, in the second picture it's supposed to say "Osama")

Yeas it's true but like X12ouncesofhateX said it is pure coincidence.

[Illmatic]

This just in: Cain is wicked smaht.

[Dark_Horse_335]

Don't worry, Illmatic, we're owning him even if he doesn't want to admit it.

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=361924&page=11&pp=25
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=361924&page=12&pp=25

Join in the fun for those of you that want to fight against this sad misperception of the facts.

I've added in a bit, but I hope t odo more, but I'm leaving for camp Sunday, so by the time I'm back. I'll be TheDMV again.

[Arucard]

Im watching the Matrix movies all in a row with my little brother as i have to look after him tonight. This is fun...

:rolleyes:

[Cain]

This just in: Cain is wicked smaht.

Thanks. :D

[NJMetalMeister]

yeesh, watching a trilogy in a row is never a good idea, even when you love the movies. We did a marathon of the 2 extended editions of the first 2 lord of the rings the night return of the king came out in theaters, and by the time it came to see ROTK i was almost completely uninterested. It just wears you out, and usually isnt worth the effort.

[Illmatic]

You're saying everything I want to say, but I'm getting too worked up to actually say it. It really pisses me off how he doesn't realize that mainstream rap influences suburban white kids more than inner-city black kids.

[Mr. Squiggles]

Im watching the Matrix movies all in a row with my little brother as i have to look after him tonight. This is fun...

:rolleyes:

I liked the first one of those movies but I thought the other two sucked.

[Illmatic]

I liked the first Matrix movie, then I hated it, now I'm starting to like it again.

[Arucard]

Im really angry at Zero now. How can he say that rap is a bad influence on kids, when he listens to The White Stripes?

'Yes, incest and getting constantly high is good! Also, be crap at your chosen instrument, because we are, and we get away with it, even with ****ing **** live shows!'

[Stoic]

20 The United States of America, and those are all very common letters.

indeed. nah, stupid theories.

'Yes, incest and getting constantly high is good! Also, be crap at your chosen instrument, because we are, and we get away with it, even with ****ing **** live shows!

Is this what the band members actually say?!

[Otherside]

Hey Ill and Cain: I love you guys.

This is just as good as when Zero got owned by Renassaince, except about 2 times better.

[Arucard]

Any chance you can hit me up with a Hellsing episode where he says the 'In the name of God, the eternal spirits of the undead shall be cast into eternal ****ation. Amen.' thing, as i need the soundbite for one of my bands songs.

Once again Otherside, can you read that?

[Otherside]

Once again Otherside, can you read that?

:\ never saw you post that.... I'll look for it....


And it will be in Japanese, I don't have the dubbed version.

[Lord Abortion]

Wow, that's terrible; will he be able to go?
oh noes- how many chances the guy going to have to see paul mccartney?

the tickets must have been extortionate...

[Bartender]

yeesh, watching a trilogy in a row is never a good idea, even when you love the movies. We did a marathon of the 2 extended editions of the first 2 lord of the rings the night return of the king came out in theaters, and by the time it came to see ROTK i was almost completely uninterested. It just wears you out, and usually isnt worth the effort.

Some friends and I did the same thing, but I was still fine to watch the film in the evening. Enjoyed it thoroughly, too.

[NJMetalMeister]

Oh i still enjoyed the film in the evening as well, but it was just exhausting to watch movies for like 12 hours straight.

[Cain]

Hey Ill and Cain: I love you guys.

This is just as good as when Zero got owned by Renassaince, except about 2 times better.

He's backed into his reflexive spouting of the same arguments over and over again. When he starts doing that, it's a sign that we've mostly beaten him.

EDIT: He just suggested that we go into every inner-city housing project and arrest everyone with a nice car, because they're "certainly guilty of welfare fraud, theft, and a number of other things."

Mankind has reached a new low.

[Lord Abortion]

Some friends and I did the same thing, but I was still fine to watch the film in the evening. Enjoyed it thoroughly, too.
I did it too, watched the first two on the day I went to see ROTK- it was great...

[Illmatic]

Well, now I know why Non Sequitur wants European players to succeed in the NBA.

He's a borderline racist.

[RiceMonster]

He's a borderline racist.
I agree. I found his counter agruement to yours to be very close to racist. It was almost as if he was, in short, saying "black people cause crime."

[ATM]

"Borderline"? That guy belongs in a Nazi camp.

[Rothmans]

How did Non Sequitor become a mod?

[Lord Abortion]

Im really angry at Zero now. How can he say that rap is a bad influence on kids, when he listens to The White Stripes?

'Yes, incest and getting constantly high is good! Also, be crap at your chosen instrument, because we are, and we get away with it, even with ****ing **** live shows!'
words cannot express how much I hate the white stripes, she can't even play the straight 4-4 time that the songs are supposed to be!

about two have a slight vriation from the first beat you are tought in drum lessons! and even that just throws in an extra bass drum note...

she is SO BAD! :angry:

[Cain]

Well, now I know why Non Sequitur wants European players to succeed in the NBA.

He's a borderline racist.

Not Klansman racist, just looking-out-for-the-white-people lazy-selfish-American racist.

Actually his stance is perfectly indicative of his Christian (likely Catholic) background. "If **** happens, you deserve it." He's not so much a racist as a horribly overmoralized Christian, who has not moved past the stage where he doesn't understand why people can't have everything he has.

"Well, if they don't have what I have they must have done something to deserve it."

[Otherside]

Joe I can't find the episode where he says that... was it one of the ones I sent to you before?

[Cain]

"Borderline"? That guy belongs in a Nazi camp.

I came this close to reporting him for that comment about arresting everyone with a nice car. What was he thinking? He's such a pig.

Too bad I would have gotten laughed out of Site for reporting a mod over what is essentially a difference of political opinion. But still, that was crossing the line.

[Illmatic]

Not Klansman racist, just looking-out-for-the-white-people lazy-selfish-American racist.

Actually his stance is perfectly indicative of his Christian (likely Catholic) background. "If **** happens, you deserve it." He's not so much a racist as a horribly overmoralized Christian, who has not moved past the stage where he doesn't understand why people can't have everything he has.

"Well, if they don't have what I have they must have done something to deserve it."

Well, either way he's a lousy human being.

Too bad I would have gotten laughed out of Site for reporting a mod over what is essentially a difference of political opinion. But still, that was crossing the line.

I think if he wasn't a mod he wouldn't spew half the garbage he spews.

[Arucard]

Joe I can't find the episode where he says that... was it one of the ones I sent to you before?

Im sure he says it in episode 2 :/

[Rothmans]

Well sorry to repeat myself but How did Non sequitor become a mod for the pit in my eyes he seems like a Rascist fool who is pretty ignorant over a lot of things so how did he?

Is it because he has been here for so long or what?

He doesnt seem to be a great contributer to the pit at all apart from causing wars as such.

[BoboTheRagingHobo]

Im really angry at Zero now. How can he say that rap is a bad influence on kids, when he listens to The White Stripes?

'Yes, incest and getting constantly high is good! Also, be crap at your chosen instrument, because we are, and we get away with it, even with ****ing **** live shows!'


Joe, I have to say, that was up to par with Zero's stupid arguement, and that is quite the statement.

It has no relevance to any thing about the arguement at hand, and all you are doing is getting pissy and picking personal nit picking subjects to get at the person.

[Lord Abortion]

I came this close to reporting him for that comment about arresting everyone with a nice car. What was he thinking? He's such a pig.

Too bad I would have gotten laughed out of Site for reporting a mod over what is essentially a difference of political opinion. But still, that was crossing the line.
I see, that guy's opinions stink IMO

remember a few months ago when stevie got banned for much less, disparaging Christianity in a political debate?

was it him who banned him?

[Ramsey]

Sup


New avatar.


Plus I haven't posted here in what seems like forever....hows everyone?

[RiceMonster]

Well sorry to repeat myself but How did Non sequitor become a mod for the pit in my eyes he seems like a Rascist fool who is pretty ignorant over a lot of things so how did he?

Is it because he has been here for so long or what?

He doesnt seem to be a great contributer to the pit at all apart from causing wars as such.
I don't know how he became a mod, but he should honestly lose his position as mod for some of his comments in that thread.

[YDload]

Well sorry to repeat myself but How did Non sequitor become a mod for the pit in my eyes he seems like a Rascist fool who is pretty ignorant over a lot of things so how did he?

Is it because he has been here for so long or what?

He doesnt seem to be a great contributer to the pit at all apart from causing wars as such.

He's been a mod for as long as I've been a member. I think him, Kithkin, and Ikikdababy are the only ones left from the day I joined.

So to answer your question, I don't know. We didn't used to have a politics forum though, so maybe nobody knew what he thought. Or maybe Jeremy is also a Christian conservative so he likes the cut of zerokewl's jib.

[Arucard]

Joe, I have to say, that was up to par with Zero's stupid arguement, and that is quite the statement.

It has no relevance to any thing about the arguement at hand, and all you are doing is getting pissy and picking personal nit picking subjects to get at the person.

I wasn't meaning it like that, i was trying to say that how can he say that rap promotes the use of drugs (thats what i was referring to, the guitar thing was me just bring a ghey), and like the White Stripes. The whole new 'inide-pop' thing is based around drugs, and the use of them.

[BoboTheRagingHobo]

I wasn't meaning it like that, i was trying to say that how can he say that rap promotes the use of drugs (thats what i was referring to, the guitar thing was me just bring a ghey), and like the White Stripes. The whole new 'inide-pop' thing is based around drugs, and the use of them.


That maybe true, but I can't really confirm it due to I don't listen to that crap.

But either way, make use of your words in a better manner, or you will make your self look like a moron.

[Illmatic]

Sup


New avatar.


Plus I haven't posted here in what seems like forever....hows everyone?

Sup Ramsey.

Don't let Non Sequitur see that avatar. He thinks that all Palestinians are worthless gypsies and that they deserved to have their land taken away :rolleyes:

I'm not kidding, he really did say that.

[Lord Abortion]

Sup


New avatar.


Plus I haven't posted here in what seems like forever....hows everyone?
hey man... I always wondered where you posted apart from the pit...

good to see some R+M interest anyway

[Ramsey]

Hey Ramsey, how are you? Long time no see.


Yeah I know.

[Arucard]

If you lived in England at this time, you would understand what i meant.

But yes, that was a stupid thing to say. I swear you go through my posts and look for dumb stuff i say just to bring it up and make me feel bad.

:shiftyeyes:

[ATM]

Hey Ramsey, what's new?

I'm leaving tomorow for Massachusetts, so I have to do a lot of packing tonight.

[Ramsey]

Sup Ramsey.

Don't let Non Sequitur see that avatar. He thinks that all Palestinians are worthless gypsies and that they deserved to have their land taken away :rolleyes:

I'm not kidding, he really did say that.
dude, I from all people should know. Me and zero about a a year and a half ago would have arguments spawning tens of pages about the plight of the Palestinians. Trust me I know. Search for old threads, it would be just me him and sometimes Maveryck arguing, for hundreds of posts. He's a moron.

And if he removes this avatar then I will never let him hear the end of it.


I flame zero whenever I get the chance, he's never had the balls to ban me even when he's banned other members for insulting him. (and besides i've heard that gypsie comment a bunch of times already)
hey man... I always wondered where you posted apart from the pit...

good to see some R+M interest anyway
Heh thanks. Sup?

[Lord Abortion]

If you lived in England at this time, you would understand what i meant.

yes, actually I agree, the use of drugs is promoted in most music and singling out a peticular genre is futile IMO