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thunderzstruck
03-02-2005, 10:33 PM
Anyone else like Rush? I'm going through a Rush craze right now. Alex is awesome on guitar All 3 guys are awesome on their instruments
/Discuss Rush
Permanent Solution
03-02-2005, 10:35 PM
I bought Hemishperes, Signals and 2112 this month. Love Rush.
thunderzstruck
03-02-2005, 10:37 PM
2112 is a msterpeice (the song) But the albums pretty good too
132WalrusesInMexico
03-02-2005, 10:37 PM
I'm a huge rush fan, i have 17 of their albums.
thunderzstruck
03-02-2005, 10:37 PM
Anyone know if Rush is going on tour sometime soon? I missed them last time
132WalrusesInMexico
03-02-2005, 10:38 PM
I heard that they're not touring anymore because neil's shoulder isn't healing well from the last tour, but it could be a rumor.
thunderzstruck
03-02-2005, 10:39 PM
Hopefully! I always wanted to see them and my dad said he would take me if they did.
132WalrusesInMexico
03-02-2005, 10:39 PM
Yeah, they put a good show on, i've seen them on vapor trails and their 30th anniv. tour.
6stringslinger
03-02-2005, 10:40 PM
3 Musical Geniuses = Rush
I saw Rush on thier Power Windows Tour . Neil Peart best drummer ever PERIOD.
I also saw them on the tour when they had the song "Time Stands Still" cant remember the name of the album or tour(smoked way too much weed back then).
thunderzstruck
03-02-2005, 10:42 PM
I viewed Rush in Rio and that made me want to see them REALLY bad!
newWorld
03-02-2005, 11:43 PM
I love Rush. I think everything from Fly by Night to Signals is at least awesome. Hemispheres is probably my favourite, but Farewell, MP, and Permanent Waves come close.
AvantGardeMercenary
03-03-2005, 01:39 AM
Rush is like... Dream Theater. They don't focus enough on songwriting. It's all wankery in it's own respect.
They wish they were King Crimson.
Deaver1985
03-03-2005, 02:34 AM
Rush is like... Dream Theater. They don't focus enough on songwriting. It's all wankery in it's own respect.
They wish they were King Crimson.
Rush is so much better than Dream Theater. Dream Theater has pointless 15 minute keyboard solos. Rush is catchy and overall better music.
AvantGardeMercenary
03-03-2005, 04:17 AM
Oh and Geddy Lee's singing is the most annoying sound I've ever heard.
Neil Pert is overrated, much like Portnoy. They both wish they were Bruford. If they don't they ought to.
I don't have much to say about Alex Lifeson.
As a band... Ugh it's all just far too overrated. I can't stand it.
Corganschild
03-03-2005, 04:26 AM
Rush is like... Dream Theater. They don't focus enough on songwriting. It's all wankery in it's own respect.
They wish they were King Crimson.
Nah, I disagree. Well maybe you're talking about the music.. I admit a lot of songs do sound the same a little.. but still great songs.. but if you're talking about the lyrical aspect of the songwriting.. I think Neil is such a great lyricist, I don't know how someone can say he's not. But it's all good. :)
And great to see a Rush thread. :) Rush is the band that got me into traveling all over the place for concerts. And who else puts on a 3-hour show with intermission? I think we're lucky to still have them around.
Btw what happened to Neil's shoulder?
Six Foot Revolver
03-03-2005, 04:26 AM
Rush are good. Good are Rush
One of the greatest bands of all time. Favorite songs include 2112, Tom Saywer, Freewill and the Spirit of Radio.
All hail at the throne of Geddy Lee! (I play bass.)
DBoons Ghost
03-03-2005, 09:35 AM
Rush is like... Dream Theater. They don't focus enough on songwriting. It's all wankery in it's own respect.
They wish they were King Crimson.
That's by far the most ignorant opinion on Rush I have ever read.
Ever.
Rush wrote the book on radio hooks in arena and FM rock. A hit single or two every album up to Distant Early Warning. King Crimson nor Dream Theater can claim such a feat.
Dream Theater are so overeducated and overskilled it's nauseating. King Crimson are egomaniacal and self indulgent. Rush maybe a bit self endulgant, but they poke fun at that all the time, especially live, and as well in their music. No band stuck to their guns longer than Rush.
"All this machinery making modern music can still be open-hearted.
Not so coldly charted, tt's really just a question of your honesty, yeah,
Your honesty!
One likes to believe in the freedom of music,
But glittering prizes and endless compromises
Shatter the illusion of integrity."
Rush are and always will be one of the greatest bands ever for melding brilliant musicianship with radio presence. No other band has ever done the same thing for so long.
I love them a great deal, and respect folks who hate them, even if it is the simple fact that they can't get over Geddy's voice.
kas_ofi
03-03-2005, 10:16 AM
Well what can i really say about this band... My favourite prog-rock band! I own 10 albums of their discography and i want to buy them all! I wish i could see them live once but i dont think they will ever come to Greece :-(
My favourite albums are:
1.A farewell to kings
2.Permanent waves
3.Moving Pictures or 2112
I have everything up to Moving Pictures (and Rush in Rio). What do you suggest to buy next?
P.S. I adore Alex's guitar playing!
BassMasterMike88
03-03-2005, 12:09 PM
When Geddy Lee's your bass player your probably pretty awesome, i dont think his vocals are too good though.
PS: Moving Pictures is porbably my favorite Rush album.
red barchetta
03-03-2005, 12:54 PM
Rush is like... Dream Theater. They don't focus enough on songwriting. It's all wankery in it's own respect.
They wish they were King Crimson.
definately not true. a lot of rush songs can be catchy and actually song-like, and they don't do 'wankery' stuff on the records - only live, unlike dream theater.
my fav. album's either moving pictures or signals. i don't know which song is better: subdivisions or red barchetta...
Geddy = greatest frontman and bassist ever
Steerpike
03-03-2005, 01:12 PM
Rush is like... Dream Theater. They don't focus enough on songwriting. It's all wankery in it's own respect.
They wish they were King Crimson.
I couldn't disagree more. Dream Theater are so pompous that only other musicians can appreciate the music. Rush are musically competent and progressive without sacrificing accessibility. Never once did I hear a Rush song that I thought, "This would have been better if it were shorter."
Oh and Geddy Lee's singing is the most annoying sound I've ever heard.
Common complaint, but at least Geddy actually stays on key. More than can be said for some.
Neil Pert is overrated, much like Portnoy. They both wish they were Bruford. If they don't they ought to.
I don't think Peart is overrated at all. He is an exceptional drummer.
I don't have much to say about Alex Lifeson.
As a band... Ugh it's all just far too overrated. I can't stand it.
Okay, I'm starting to get the impression that you're just trying to make yourself sound smart. You're not doing a very good job.
Rush are the every-man's prog band. Their music has gone through four distinctive eras throughout their careers.
There was the 70's work which featured their larger epics and more unrefined songs. The 80's showed a shift into arena rock and more radio-friendly music that still managed to showcase incredible musical experimentation. The 90's was more stripped-down and jazzy. And now their new work which is more raw and haunting. This is a band that knows how to evolve.
Alex Lifeson is one of my guitar influences. His rhythm parts are just as much fun to play as his solos. And unlike some guitarists, he actually knows how to make good use of effects.
newWorld
03-03-2005, 01:26 PM
Oh and Geddy Lee's singing is the most annoying sound I've ever heard.
Okay. I think it rocks. I love it.
Neil Pert is overrated, much like Portnoy. They both wish they were Bruford. If they don't they ought to.
Why would a metal drummers want to sound like jazz? Bruford rocks, but there is no way either Portnoy or Peart are aspiring to recreate his sound.
I don't have much to say about Alex Lifeson.
As a band... Ugh it's all just far too overrated. I can't stand it.
Who's to say what's overrated?
I don't see why people bash King Crimson or Dream Theater. They both have fairly accessable material, and who's to say accessability is necessarilly better? Some musical brings me like nirvana, while others cast it away because they don't understand it. And just ask my indie rock firends; they love and I don't.
red barchetta
03-03-2005, 01:26 PM
Alex Lifeson is one of my guitar influences. His rhythm parts are just as much fun to play as his solos. And unlike some guitarists, he actually knows how to make good use of effects.
the harmonics in 'red barchetta' sounds so amazing... and playing the chorus of that song on guitar is so fun
kas_ofi
03-03-2005, 01:37 PM
the harmonics in 'red barchetta' sounds so amazing... and playing the chorus of that song guitar is so fun
cant agree more! :thumb:
Steerpike
03-03-2005, 01:39 PM
Why would a metal drummers want to sound like jazz? Bruford rocks, but there is no way either Portnoy or Peart are aspiring to recreate his sound.
Exactly. The styles are radically different. What this guy is asking for is homogeneity.
I don't see why people bash King Crimson or Dream Theater. They both have fairly accessable material, and who's to say accessability is necessarilly better? Some musical brings me like nirvana, while others cast it away because they don't understand it. And just ask my indie rock firends; they love and I don't.
Well, personally I dislike Dream Theater because they seem too concerned with showing off their virtusoity and not making something appropriate to the song. I appreciate their talent, but their music gives off a very pompous vibe that rubs me the wrong way.
I never got that feeling from Rush. Their whole career is Neil Peart writing about something he thought was interesting and then Alex and Geddy taking their instruments and thinking "What would sound really cool in this song?"
In short, Dream Theater (to paraphrase Alexi Laiho) treat their music like a sport, in which they have to be better than everyone else. Whereas Rush treat their music like a game to see what kind of new and different stuff they can try on each album.
On a slight tangent, I saw them on the 30th anniversary tour. Shortly after intemission, Geddy was talking to the audience and said, "The biggest problem with going on tour is trying to decide on a set list. Especially when you have too **** many albums like us." The band as a whole just seem to have a very wry sense of humor about themselves.
kas_ofi
03-03-2005, 01:45 PM
^they are happy persons and you can see that form their early lyrics. Cool fantasy lines. And really amazing performers as i can see from the Rush in Rio DVD. (...I want to see them live :upset: )
Caress Of Steel is a ****ing masterpiece.
I honestly just came online to make a Rush thread.
I have a ****load of their albums, best prog band ever.
End of.
Steerpike
03-03-2005, 01:56 PM
^they are happy persons and you can see that form their early lyrics. Cool fantasy lines. And really amazing performers as i can see from the Rush in Rio DVD. (...I want to see them live :upset: )
It's strange. They're not the most energetic showmen (especially since they're in their 50s now), but they have this infectious sense of happiness. They really enjoy playing up on stage and the audience picks up on it.
It's also amazing how they realize more so than many other bands that a concert isn't just an aural experience. They put on a kick-*** light show as well and try to throw in a little humor (i.e. the dryers).
The one highly recomended Rush album I don't have is Test For Echo.
I have like the first 9 or 10 albums, and my favourite is Caress Of Steel, I like 2112 a lot too.
Actually, every Rush album I have rules.
Sorry, I just discovered that one of the albums that is highly rated and I don't have is called
"Vapour Trails"
Any good?
Steerpike
03-03-2005, 02:27 PM
It depends on who you ask. Personally, I like Vapor Trails. It was another change of pace for Rush, offering a raw, hard rock sound but still maintaining those progressive elements.
Vapor Trail, Earthshine, Secret Touch, Sweet Miracle, and Ghost Rider are some of my favorites.
Thanks,
and just as some general discussion, what is your favourite Rush album from the 70's?
Mars Volta
03-03-2005, 02:45 PM
Ive got 2112, I like that but my favourite song I have heard by them that is not on there is Roll the Bones
synzephyr
03-03-2005, 02:58 PM
I Love Rush, I'm listening alot to their music (Rush Radio) it's amazing.
"5150"
03-03-2005, 03:03 PM
Neil Pert is overrated, much like Portnoy. They both wish they were Bruford. If they don't they ought to.
There's no way Peart and Pornoy are overated. They are both two very creative, inspirational and exceptional drummers. And since when did you know that they wish they were Bruford?
What Rush albums would you recommend? I'm interested in hearing more of their material.
"Neil Peart" and "Is Overated" in the same sentance is laughable,
He's technically one of the best Rock drummers of all time.
What Rush albums would you recommend? I'm interested in hearing more of their material.
Yes.
I'll give you a brief overview:
For a great Hard Rock Album:
Caress Of Steel,
For a great Prog Rock album:
Hemispheres,
2112,
For a great album in general:
Moving Pictures.
Get all their albums from the 70's! I can't stress that enough!
kas_ofi
03-03-2005, 04:16 PM
Yes.
I'll give you a brief overview:
For a great Hard Rock Album:
Caress Of Steel,
For a great Prog Rock album:
Hemispheres,
2112,
For a great album in general:
Moving Pictures.
Get all their albums from the 70's! I can't stress that enough!
I think that you are forgeting every time the MASTERPIECE called A Farewell to Kings. :evil:
thunderzstruck
03-03-2005, 04:17 PM
Alex Lifeson is one of my guitar influences. His rhythm parts are just as much fun to play as his solos. And unlike some guitarists, he actually knows how to make good use of effects.
Same here man. Alex uses his effects so well.
thunderzstruck
03-03-2005, 04:20 PM
It's strange. They're not the most energetic showmen (especially since they're in their 50s now), but they have this infectious sense of happiness. They really enjoy playing up on stage and the audience picks up on it.
It's also amazing how they realize more so than many other bands that a concert isn't just an aural experience. They put on a kick-*** light show as well and try to throw in a little humor (i.e. the dryers).
Yeah, when you watch their concerts you can just tell their having a great time. Not said with Dream Theatre. John just... stands there.
I could see how some people don't like Geddy Lee's vocals but I do.
Yeah I like A Farewell to Kings, It doesn't stand up as well to Hemispheres, although it does have the Cygnus X-1 Book I on it, which is amazing.
thunderzstruck
03-03-2005, 04:24 PM
I only have their greatest hits "The spirit of radio" and 2112. I'm looking to buy a few more since I have listened to those to death
dustyboy316
03-03-2005, 04:27 PM
3 Musical Geniuses = Rush
I saw Rush on thier Power Windows Tour . Neil Peart best drummer ever PERIOD.
I also saw them on the tour when they had the song "Time Stands Still" cant remember the name of the album or tour(smoked way too much weed back then).
Time Stand Still was off of 2112.
I love Rush, theyt're my fav band. Just watched Rush in Rio like 2 hours ago haha. There's rumours that my city is tryin to get them to play a concert here, and I hope we do.
Alex Lifeson is on of my fav guitarist's. He is so original. Neil Peart is the best drummer and Geddy has a nice voice and he's a really good bassist.
dustyboy316
03-03-2005, 04:32 PM
Oh and Geddy Lee's singing is the most annoying sound I've ever heard.
Neil Pert is overrated, much like Portnoy. They both wish they were Bruford. If they don't they ought to.
I don't have much to say about Alex Lifeson.
As a band... Ugh it's all just far too overrated. I can't stand it.
You couldn't be more wrong. Neil was nominated for a grammy for his AMAZING drum solo O Baterista from Rush in Rio. Listen to him paly, his fill's are amazingly quick, his rhythms are very od dbut work in perfectu nison with the song and he also writes Rush's lyrics.
thunderzstruck
03-03-2005, 04:43 PM
Anyone tell you, you should reupload your avatar?
dustyboy316
03-03-2005, 04:48 PM
Anyone tell you, you should reupload your avatar?
hgaha yah I know, but I don;t have another copy of it. And I made it so it's the only one left hahaha. And I'm too lazy to get a new one...
thunderzstruck
03-03-2005, 04:56 PM
Ok, I didn't know if anyone has told you. It looks... intresting :thumb:
Hammer_of_the_Gods
03-03-2005, 05:13 PM
Rush = Pure musical genius.
Saw the 30th Anniversary Tour. All I can say was it kicked ***!
dustyboy316
03-03-2005, 05:13 PM
Ok, I didn't know if anyone has told you. It looks... intresting :thumb:
haha it jsut showe about 5 Rush album covers, the last one being their first album. Took about 5 minutes of my time... But I don't have the program on this comp to make it again :angry:
AvantGardeMercenary
03-03-2005, 05:16 PM
You couldn't be more wrong. Neil was nominated for a grammy for his AMAZING drum solo O Baterista from Rush in Rio. Listen to him paly, his fill's are amazingly quick, his rhythms are very od dbut work in perfectu nison with the song and he also writes Rush's lyrics.
Yeah well Eminem won an Oscar.
Does that make him talented? No.
And do you ever watch the Grammys? Ever notice that... THEY'RE COMPLETE BULL****?
Steerpike
03-03-2005, 05:49 PM
Yeah well Eminem won an Oscar.
Does that make him talented? No.
And do you ever watch the Grammys? Ever notice that... THEY'RE COMPLETE BULL****?
How about this then:
- 1976, the break-through album 2112 sells 1 million copies.
- 1977, Closer to the Heart is the band's first internationally charted single.
- 1980, Rush and each individual member place in the top ten in every applicable category in Sounds and Melody Maker Polls in Britain.
- 1990, Rush is voted Group of the Decade in Canada in recognition of their musical and cultural impact from 1980-1990.
- 1990, Rush wins the coveted and prestigious Mayor's Award at hte Toronto Music Awards.
- 1992, Rush was honoured with the "Harold Moon Award" by the Society of Composers, Authors, and Music Publishers of Canada (SOCAN). It is the most prestigious songwriter's award in Canada.
- 1993, Rush are chosen as recipient of the "Toronto Arts Award". The award, presented on behalf of the Arts Foundation of Toronto, recognizes the recipient's entire body of work through artistic excellence and contributions to the arts and culture of Toronto.
- 1996, Rush release their 21st gold album "Test For Echo". According to the Recording Industry Association (RIAA) this places them in a third place tie with Kiss. What makes this feat so remarkable is that it extends their consecutive gold certification streak to 21, their entire catalogue of albums.
- 1997, Each of the band's three members are recognized as "Officers of the Order Of Canada". This prestigious honour reflects the unique contribution to Canada, and indeed the world, that Rush have made since their very early origins in Toronto, and throughout their twenty-three year recording career. This is the first time the Order of Canada is given to a group rather than an individual.
- 1997, The Foundation Forum and F Musicfest have announced Rush this year's recipient of the "Concrete/Foundations Outstanding Contribution to Music Award". Rush joins a distinguished list of receipts including Van Halen, KISS, Ozzy Osbourne and Alice Cooper.
- 1999, Rush was inducted into Canada's Walk Of Fame in Toronto. The other inductees included that year are David Croneberg, Celine Dion, and Buffy Sainte- Marie.
That's all off the official website, and there's more that I left out for the sake of brevity.
The group has made a massive cultural impact and achieved a degree of immortality through it.
The Minstrel in the Gallery
03-03-2005, 06:07 PM
I do believe Rush is long overdue for an official thread........
AvantGardeMercenary
03-03-2005, 06:21 PM
How about this then:
- 1976, the break-through album 2112 sells 1 million copies.
- 1977, Closer to the Heart is the band's first internationally charted single.
- 1980, Rush and each individual member place in the top ten in every applicable category in Sounds and Melody Maker Polls in Britain.
- 1990, Rush is voted Group of the Decade in Canada in recognition of their musical and cultural impact from 1980-1990.
- 1990, Rush wins the coveted and prestigious Mayor's Award at hte Toronto Music Awards.
- 1992, Rush was honoured with the "Harold Moon Award" by the Society of Composers, Authors, and Music Publishers of Canada (SOCAN). It is the most prestigious songwriter's award in Canada.
- 1993, Rush are chosen as recipient of the "Toronto Arts Award". The award, presented on behalf of the Arts Foundation of Toronto, recognizes the recipient's entire body of work through artistic excellence and contributions to the arts and culture of Toronto.
- 1996, Rush release their 21st gold album "Test For Echo". According to the Recording Industry Association (RIAA) this places them in a third place tie with Kiss. What makes this feat so remarkable is that it extends their consecutive gold certification streak to 21, their entire catalogue of albums.
- 1997, Each of the band's three members are recognized as "Officers of the Order Of Canada". This prestigious honour reflects the unique contribution to Canada, and indeed the world, that Rush have made since their very early origins in Toronto, and throughout their twenty-three year recording career. This is the first time the Order of Canada is given to a group rather than an individual.
- 1997, The Foundation Forum and F Musicfest have announced Rush this year's recipient of the "Concrete/Foundations Outstanding Contribution to Music Award". Rush joins a distinguished list of receipts including Van Halen, KISS, Ozzy Osbourne and Alice Cooper.
- 1999, Rush was inducted into Canada's Walk Of Fame in Toronto. The other inductees included that year are David Croneberg, Celine Dion, and Buffy Sainte- Marie.
That's all off the official website, and there's more that I left out for the sake of brevity.
The group has made a massive cultural impact and achieved a degree of immortality through it.
Okay. All I was saying is I don't like them. I don't need proof that they made a huge cultural impact, I already know all this.
Hitler made a huge cultural impact too.
Steerpike
03-03-2005, 06:33 PM
Hitler made a huge cultural impact too.
That is possibly the most assinine analogy I've ever seen on this board. And coming from me, that's saying something.
dustyboy316
03-03-2005, 07:22 PM
Yeah well Eminem won an Oscar.
Does that make him talented? No.
And do you ever watch the Grammys? Ever notice that... THEY'RE COMPLETE BULL****?
Actually Emninem is talented, whether you like him or not. Just because you don't like his music dosen't make him untalented (Same with Neil).
Johnny B. Good
03-03-2005, 07:51 PM
Okay. All I was saying is I don't like them. I don't need proof that they made a huge cultural impact, I already know all this.
Hitler made a huge cultural impact too.
1) Every member of Rush is a better musician in every sense of the word than you'll ever be.
2) At least Rush left an eternal mark on the world and was part of forming the culture of the world, all you'll ever be is a zit on the @ss of society.
Distant Echoes
03-03-2005, 08:05 PM
i think Rush is probably the most respectable band around. Their still going strong since late 60's/early 70's, never got in any fights (regrouped/broke up), and have the most well balenced music capabilities on all thier instruments. Very underated though...I never hear them on my classic or modern rock stations, and most people have never heard of them (around here).
EDIT: Could a mod make this an official thread? i dont know if their is one for Rush, but i know Id be a regular in here if it was.
dustyboy316
03-03-2005, 09:45 PM
i think Rush is probably the most respectable band around. Their still going strong since late 60's/early 70's, never got in any fights (regrouped/broke up), and have the most well balenced music capabilities on all thier instruments. Very underated though...I never hear them on my classic or modern rock stations, and most people have never heard of them (around here).
EDIT: Could a mod make this an official thread? i dont know if their is one for Rush, but i know Id be a regular in here if it was.
Haha I woulfd be too. I hear Rush all the time on music stations where I am. Whenever I work I hear them on my local station.
I also have gotten a lot of my friend's into Rush, they're jsut in general an easy to like band with tons of talent.
MaidenPumpkin
03-03-2005, 10:11 PM
3 Musical Geniuses = Rush
I saw Rush on thier Power Windows Tour . Neil Peart best drummer ever PERIOD.
I also saw them on the tour when they had the song "Time Stands Still" cant remember the name of the album or tour(smoked way too much weed back then).
That would be off of the Hold Your Fire album.
Man, to think that Geddy's voice almost threw me off of Rush. I heard them once, decided they sucked and went on my own business. I then got a hold of 2112 and realized what an idiot I was. Rush is now one of my fave bands.
i think Rush is probably the most respectable band around. Their still going strong since late 60's/early 70's, never got in any fights (regrouped/broke up), and have the most well balenced music capabilities on all thier instruments. Very underated though...I never hear them on my classic or modern rock stations, and most people have never heard of them (around here).
EDIT: Could a mod make this an official thread? i dont know if their is one for Rush, but i know Id be a regular in here if it was.
I see you said they haven't regrouped but what about their drummer from the first album who was not good ol' Neil. Don't know if thats what you meant but thought I would point it out.
thunderzstruck
03-04-2005, 06:07 PM
I do believe Rush is long overdue for an official thread........
That's why I made this :D
No more official threads will be made, sadly. Not every band of large repute can have one, otherwise that's all these forums would consist of.
That said, Rush have got the most competent musicians around, as far as I'm concerned: not only can they all play like bitches and in many many different modes, but their musical proficiency in terms of hooks and overall songwriting ability is quite staggering. The only area where I would say they falter would be in the lyrics department: Peart's metaphors and juxtaposition of contrasting images can get very amateurish sometimes. But these guys are a great group: I've actually been listening to them a lot after a long dry spell, now that I'm sort of sick of all the Dream Theater and Opeth I have.
i have never really gotten into them even tho i absolutly love 2112 but the other songs just not for me.
No more official threads will be made, sadly. Not every band of large repute can have one, otherwise that's all these forums would consist of.
That said, Rush have got the most competent musicians around, as far as I'm concerned: not only can they all play like bitches and in many many different modes, but their musical proficiency in terms of hooks and overall songwriting ability is quite staggering. The only area where I would say they falter would be in the lyrics department: Peart's metaphors and juxtaposition of contrasting images can get very amateurish sometimes. But these guys are a great group: I've actually been listening to them a lot after a long dry spell, now that I'm sort of sick of all the Dream Theater and Opeth I have.
I agree in every respect. Every member is a legend in their respective instruments and each play with taste and restrain when needed. Rush should be held in hgh esteem by everyone who considers music pure and good.
TheSpecialist
03-04-2005, 07:02 PM
Rush...They are amazing, i know must of the bands i listen are before my time, but ive really come to appreciate great music and Rush are one of my favourite bands, and it has to be sed one of my favourite Rush songs has to be Spirit Of The Radio, it owns!
red barchetta
03-05-2005, 05:38 AM
Yeah well Eminem won an Oscar.
Does that make him talented? No.
can you prove that point? no.
his lyrics are extremely intelligent, just like many other rap artist's lyrics. stop being so stereotypical just cos he's a famous rapper. why dont you try and write some lyrics and why don't you try and compete in a rap battle? it's more harder than you'll ever imagine
Does anyone have any thoughts on "Rush"?
It gets slated here, but I like it a lot...
I have all albums except signals and grace under pressure.
<3 Rush.
symon
03-05-2005, 09:07 AM
Rush is kind of like Boston -- you have to listen to them a whole bunch before you like them.
I wouldn't say so, Rush are (in my opinion) a lot easier to get into than Boston.
TheSpecialist
03-05-2005, 09:25 AM
I agree, boston are ok, but rush are amazing and i havent heard all that many songs :thumb:
Does anyone have any opinions on Fly By Night?
I got it the other day and it hasn't stopped spinning in my CD player.
dustyboy316
03-05-2005, 10:30 AM
Does anyone have any opinions on Fly By Night?
I got it the other day and it hasn't stopped spinning in my CD player.
Didn't really like the album as a whole. Fly by Night, The Anthem and Rivendell are my fav on it though.
Rivendell is a great song, I haven't listened to it for a while actually...
thunderzstruck
03-05-2005, 12:27 PM
It's awesome how so many people on here love an underappreicated band like RUsh as much as me.
Rush had no huge single that made them popular. If someone has never heard of Rush and ask what songs do they play I doubt they have heard any of their songs.
Get what I'm saying?
Distant Echoes
03-05-2005, 12:29 PM
I see you said they haven't regrouped but what about their drummer from the first album who was not good ol' Neil. Don't know if thats what you meant but thought I would point it out.
Yes, good ol John Rutsey. I know about him, i got their regrouping deal from a guitar magazine, though i may have reworded it weird, missing some exception.
Still the closest youll get to real classic rock in a concert with an amazing band. I wouldnt say legendary, but close.
dustyboy316
03-05-2005, 01:09 PM
It's awesome how so many people on here love an underappreicated band like RUsh as much as me.
Rush had no huge single that made them popular. If someone has never heard of Rush and ask what songs do they play I doubt they have heard any of their songs.
Get what I'm saying?
Rush's top single is probably Tom Sawyer or Limelight perhaps.
But Rivendell was boring at irst,but I have grown to love it.
|Another good song I like is Driven, I really like the first switch when it gets softer and he starts plain those hcords. It's really fun to play.
symon
03-05-2005, 03:20 PM
I agree, boston are ok, but rush are amazing and i havent heard all that many songs :thumb:
Boston is better. Boston was musical wizards. Listen to their new CD Coporate America before you judge them. Please.
rybass
03-05-2005, 03:23 PM
La Villa Strangiato is the best song EVER!!!
red barchetta
03-05-2005, 03:38 PM
It's awesome how so many people on here love an underappreicated band like RUsh as much as me.
Rush had no huge single that made them popular. If someone has never heard of Rush and ask what songs do they play I doubt they have heard any of their songs.
Get what I'm saying?
yeah, totally - i think their biggest hit was 'new world man' (i'm not completely sure) and that song doesnt get mentioned alot in magazines etc.
i think rush is getting more and more appreciated because of the bands they influenced - for example, they influenced muse and dream theater, and the fans of these bands check out rush by downloading a random song.
Johnny B. Good
03-05-2005, 03:53 PM
yeah, totally - i think their biggest hit was 'new world man' (i'm not completely sure) and that song doesnt get mentioned alot in magazines etc.
i think rush is getting more and more appreciated because of the bands they influenced - for example, they influenced muse and dream theater, and the fans of these bands check out rush by downloading a random song.
Tom Sawyer was their big song.
Also they didn't just influence a couple of bands, they influenced culture.
red barchetta
03-05-2005, 03:56 PM
^if i wrote down all the bands they influenced, it will take all night
i just wrote the famous one off my head
kas_ofi
03-05-2005, 04:38 PM
It's awesome how so many people on here love an underappreicated band like RUsh as much as me.
Rush had no huge single that made them popular. If someone has never heard of Rush and ask what songs do they play I doubt they have heard any of their songs.
Get what I'm saying?
I -of course- get you are saying but i think that you are forgetting "Closer to the heart". This song is in every rock fans mind, while he doesnt even know what is its name. Also when it came out, as a single, it had huge impact to the 70's prog sound.
thunderzstruck
03-05-2005, 06:15 PM
Rush = <3
Distant Echoes
03-05-2005, 07:22 PM
I got a poster of their Discography on my basement wall. theres 27 albums out now,not including the 2/3 disc sets. Every 4 albums they release a live album, and i think they have about 3 official greatest hits. That still sums up to 15+ albums, which isnt bad for a revolutionary band.
I still think this thread should be official...
low end
03-05-2005, 08:10 PM
How many drummers does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
Two. One to screw it in and one to say "Neil Peart could've done that way better."
YYZ>everything
Six Foot Revolver
03-05-2005, 08:38 PM
How many drummers does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
Two. One to screw it in and one to say "Neil Peart could've done that way better."
YYZ>everything
That joke sucks
Distant Echoes
03-05-2005, 08:51 PM
Harsh...I thought it was pretty funny, but your talkin to somebody who grows up primarily around comedy from Family Guy and The Naked Gun
Im considering learning YYZ on guitar, and recently attempted to play on drums, since my experience isnt showing much improvment anymore. Wasnt great, but wasnt pathetic like i was expecting.
Harsh...I thought it was pretty funny, but your talkin to somebody who grows up primarily around comedy from Family Guy and The Naked Gun
Im considering learning YYZ on guitar, and recently attempted to play on drums, since my experience isnt showing much improvment anymore. Wasnt great, but wasnt pathetic like i was expecting.
Sweet. YYZ's a great song, but nothing pwns La Villa Strangiato's first guitar solo in terms of incredible skill. The live solo Lifeson pulls on "Exit: Stage Left" is even more breathtaking: that was shred way before Yngwie made it suck.
peacefrog1201
03-05-2005, 09:32 PM
Every member of Rush are musical geniuses. They all majored in music in college and they are incredible at their instruments.
dustyboy316
03-05-2005, 11:41 PM
I got a poster of their Discography on my basement wall. theres 27 albums out now,not including the 2/3 disc sets. Every 4 albums they release a live album, and i think they have about 3 official greatest hits. That still sums up to 15+ albums, which isnt bad for a revolutionary band.
I still think this thread should be official...
I have that poster too.
thunderzstruck
03-06-2005, 09:15 PM
I have been wanting a Rush poster for some time but can never find any. :(
I know about the first minute to YYZ on guitar
dustyboy316
03-06-2005, 09:26 PM
I have been wanting a Rush poster for some time but can never find any. :(
I know about the first minute to YYZ on guitar
There is a new rush poster out. Like said before it's their discography. It's not the best, but I saw the first Rush poster I've seen and bought it lol.
newWorld
03-06-2005, 11:08 PM
Well, personally I dislike Dream Theater because they seem too concerned with showing off their virtusoity and not making something appropriate to the song. I appreciate their talent, but their music gives off a very pompous vibe that rubs me the wrong way.
I never got that feeling from Rush. Their whole career is Neil Peart writing about something he thought was interesting and then Alex and Geddy taking their instruments and thinking "What would sound really cool in this song?"
In short, Dream Theater (to paraphrase Alexi Laiho) treat their music like a sport, in which they have to be better than everyone else. Whereas Rush treat their music like a game to see what kind of new and different stuff they can try on each album.
I have a few problems with your assessment of DT. Your first statement's all good; it seems to you that they are...etc and it rubs you the wrong way. I do not see how one can know the intensions of a band, nevermind how those intentions are relevant. In other words, how can one know that Dream Theater is not doing what they think is approproiate for a song. Second of all, their visible virtuousity may not be intentional, or at least the purpose of the song in itself, and plenty of bands may be trying to show off, but their skills limit them and they produce something that sounds like Rush or another band that does not seem "pretensious." In fact, Rush say that they are very competetive and push each other technically.
Steerpike
03-06-2005, 11:32 PM
I have a few problems with your assessment of DT. Your first statement's all good; it seems to you that they are...etc and it rubs you the wrong way. I do not see how one can know the intensions of a band, nevermind how those intentions are relevant. In other words, how can one know that Dream Theater is not doing what they think is approproiate for a song. Second of all, their visible virtuousity may not be intentional, or at least the purpose of the song in itself, and plenty of bands may be trying to show off, but their skills limit them and they produce something that sounds like Rush or another band that does not seem "pretensious." In fact, Rush say that they are very competetive and push each other technically.
First of all, I used the word "seems" to show that I don't profess to be some sort of insider or psychic. I'm merely stating the feeling I get.
I haven't heard the solo album with John Petrucci and Jordan Rudess yet, but I'm told it sounds far less self-indulgent than your typical Dream Theater song.
I stand by my stance that these guys have yet to write a song that hasn't bored me. When I listen to Rush, they clearly loved making that song. They didn't care if it wasn't one of their best, it was still fun to do. And it rubs off on the listener. Dream Theater... I just feel like I'm being talked down to. As I said, their music carries an incredibly pompous and self-indulgent vibe that just kills it for me.
thunderzstruck
03-07-2005, 05:58 PM
When watching Rush live you can tell on their faces and by their body language they are enjoying themselves very much. DT just stands there...
But anyways anyone see the Rush cartoon videos on Rush's website? They're pretty funny.
Thunder Fingers
03-07-2005, 06:11 PM
Geddy Lee is god! oh how an awsome bassist... i love his voice to, its somthing...personall over it, somthing wich many singers dont have... that also goes for geddys apperance... :p
Oh, it would be my dream to just get to play with a drummer and a guitarist half the talent of Neil and Alex... Geddy have an real nice "ofbounce" of Neils snare.. its realy cool to listen to, Cause the song jumps along..
And Rush is Not like Dream Theatre, Rush Is NOT boring... and there is such a more soul over Rush's Music, like, it can take you and just carry you away...
SUCH a great band! not to talk about geddys amazing sig bass! :D
Now i realy got the urge to listen to some rush...
Distant Echoes
03-07-2005, 08:20 PM
Sweet. YYZ's a great song, but nothing pwns La Villa Strangiato's first guitar solo in terms of incredible skill. The live solo Lifeson pulls on "Exit: Stage Left" is even more breathtaking: that was shred way before Yngwie made it suck.
La Villa Stangiato's intro solo is one of the few things lifeson wasnt afraid to innovate in concert...along with the third part of 2112 and some fragments off YYZ and Tom Sawyer. It is amazing, i have a half gig of Rush on my comp right now, and half of it is Live Rush.
NP: Show Dont Tell (Different Stages)
MNbassist78
03-07-2005, 08:29 PM
I love Rush. The first album of theirs I got was Moving Pictures which I bought about a year ago and still love. YYZ is a great instrumental. Geddy Lee is an amazing bass player. I just got the Rush in Rio DVD and it kicks ***. Anyone else seen it?
dustyboy316
03-07-2005, 08:52 PM
Boston is better. Boston was musical wizards. Listen to their new CD Coporate America before you judge them. Please.
You mean Boston are better (Learn grammar).
And are you kidding me? Are you trying to tell me Rush aren't geniuses?
They have more originality, skill and thought involved in all of their song's compared to Boston.
still like Boston though.
Johnnymario
03-07-2005, 08:55 PM
One of the best bands that have that futurey sound!
Distant Echoes
03-07-2005, 08:56 PM
Boston? Rush owns Boston.
How did that subject come up?
thunderzstruck
03-07-2005, 09:09 PM
I don't know
dustyboy316
03-07-2005, 09:22 PM
Haha me either, I saw that post. I can't believe someone would think Boston is a lot better musically though.
Plus Boston has 2 guitarist, so that may be why you think that. Rush only has 3 members...
thunderzstruck
03-07-2005, 09:25 PM
Boston = band w/two good songs
Steerpike
03-07-2005, 09:59 PM
Boston had one good album in them. Rush has their whole **** catalog. Case closed.
thunderzstruck
03-07-2005, 10:19 PM
So true
symon
03-13-2005, 08:18 PM
Rush is not that good. So what if they were musical majors? So what?
Steerpike
03-13-2005, 08:32 PM
Rush is not that good. So what if they were musical majors? So what?
Is there even a slim chance that you'll use logical statements to back up your reasoning?
funkybeeatch14
03-16-2005, 05:34 PM
Rush is not that good. So what if they were musical majors? So what?
Explain how they're not...they revolutionized modern prog, have one of the most underrated lyricists (Neil Peart), guitarists (Alex Lifeson), and Peart is alos one of the most skilled drummers since the death of Bonham. If you don't like them, state that its your opinion that you don't, and then come up with a logical answer to back it up...with posts like yours, you only sound like a fool.
First of all, I used the word "seems" to show that I don't profess to be some sort of insider or psychic. I'm merely stating the feeling I get.
I haven't heard the solo album with John Petrucci and Jordan Rudess yet, but I'm told it sounds far less self-indulgent than your typical Dream Theater song.
I stand by my stance that these guys have yet to write a song that hasn't bored me. When I listen to Rush, they clearly loved making that song. They didn't care if it wasn't one of their best, it was still fun to do. And it rubs off on the listener. Dream Theater... I just feel like I'm being talked down to. As I said, their music carries an incredibly pompous and self-indulgent vibe that just kills it for me.
Steerpike, you really need to listen to that "Evening with Jordan Rudess...etc." album. Keep in mind though that it was actually recorded a few years ago, so maybe Petrucci really HAS gone downhill for good, soloingwise. I'll post a song if you want.
newWorld
03-16-2005, 05:50 PM
First of all, I used the word "seems" to show that I don't profess to be some sort of insider or psychic. I'm merely stating the feeling I get.
I know. That's what I meant.
I haven't heard the solo album with John Petrucci and Jordan Rudess yet, but I'm told it sounds far less self-indulgent than your typical Dream Theater song.
I stand by my stance that these guys have yet to write a song that hasn't bored me. When I listen to Rush, they clearly loved making that song. They didn't care if it wasn't one of their best, it was still fun to do. And it rubs off on the listener. Dream Theater... I just feel like I'm being talked down to. As I said, their music carries an incredibly pompous and self-indulgent vibe that just kills it for me.
Fair enough. I was just saying that one cannot come to the conclusion that a band is merely showing off (or pretensious, or pompous) because they excel technically, and that a band that sounds simpler is not trying to show off (or not pretentious or pompous).
willis2441
03-16-2005, 06:48 PM
peart is bad@ss at drums
dt_opeth_death
03-16-2005, 07:09 PM
**** it! Allow me first to defend Dream Theater. Back off, please! Dream Theater's goal is not to show off or make you feel inferior. They have tons and tons of hooks and great melodies that you will remember for a long time. I think that musical technicality has just been such a big part of their lives that they almost subconsciously incorporate it into their music. Anyway, you shouldn't be criticizing people that attempt to be the best they can possibly be.
Sorry about ^. Anyway, Rush is an amazing band that appeal to everyone. If you have not heard them, you should immediately go buy any one of their records. You don't even have to know the name of one. Go to you local record store now and look on the back for a copyright date. If you see anywhere from 1977-1981, that will probably be a good place to start. Neil is not overrated by the way.
willis2441
03-16-2005, 07:24 PM
**** it! Allow me first to defend Dream Theater. Back off, please! Dream Theater's goal is not to show off or make you feel inferior. They have tons and tons of hooks and great melodies that you will remember for a long time. I think that musical technicality has just been such a big part of their lives that they almost subconsciously incorporate it into their music. Anyway, you shouldn't be criticizing people that attempt to be the best they can possibly be.
Sorry about ^. Anyway, Rush is an amazing band that appeal to everyone. If you have not heard them, you should immediately go buy any one of their records. You don't even have to know the name of one. Go to you local record store now and look on the back for a copyright date. If you see anywhere from 1977-1981, that will probably be a good place to start. Neil is not overrated by the way.
why the **** are you talkin about dream theater in the rush thread?
why the **** are you talkin about dream theater in the rush thread?
Take it easy, psycho.
Syncope
03-16-2005, 08:09 PM
Rush is a very talented band. I just got 2112 a 2 weeks ago.
blue3
03-16-2005, 08:09 PM
I'm not a big Rush fan
funkybeeatch14
03-16-2005, 08:34 PM
I'm not a big Rush fan
Hahaha...okay then why post in this thread :confused: ?
thunderzstruck
03-16-2005, 09:01 PM
Rush is a very talented band. I just got 2112 a 2 weeks ago.
That whole cd is very good. But the song is EXTREMELY good.
symon
03-22-2005, 04:31 PM
Alright, I actually gave Rush a chance, and they are good. I'll admit that. They are one of the better bands out there actually. But they are NOT easy to get into. Just because they are experts with their instruments doesn't make them a excellent band. One property of a good band is that they need to be catchy. Hmmmmmm...go figure...no wonder Rush wasn't that big!
shamed-angel
03-22-2005, 04:34 PM
Rush are Amazing.
/thread over
halfdeadhippo
03-22-2005, 04:36 PM
Alright, I actually gave Rush a chance, and they are good. I'll admit that. They are one of the better bands out there actually. But they are NOT easy to get into. Just because they are experts with their instruments doesn't make them a excellent band. One property of a good band is that they need to be catchy. Hmmmmmm...go figure...no wonder Rush wasn't that big!Throughout the '80's, their songs were far catchier than they were technical. Not that they still weren't technical, but they had much more public appeal than their previous releases. Check out some songs from Moving Pictures or Permanent Waves if you get the chance.
Rush is not that good. So what if they were musical majors? So what?
You is not that good.
funkybeeatch14
03-22-2005, 05:27 PM
Favorite Rush album?
Well..
Caress Of Steel.
I like 2112 a lot too.
Steerpike
03-22-2005, 06:14 PM
One property of a good band is that they need to be catchy. Hmmmmmm...go figure...no wonder Rush wasn't that big!
There aren't many rock fans who haven't heard Rush's 80's material. I've only talked with a handful of people who haven't heard at the very least Tom Sawyer and Limelight.
Also, I'm not quite sure what you're trying to get at with these sorts of statements. Who cares if a band was never as big as, say, Metallica or the Beatles or Led Zeppelin? Musical proficiency, true influence, and a love for one's art is what makes a band great.
By the kind of logic your using, Fred Durst is better than Matt Barlow because he made it big. Or that Good Charlotte are better than Django Reinhardt because they've sold more records and are "catchier."
kas_ofi
03-22-2005, 06:19 PM
Favorite Rush album?
In order:
A farewell to kings
Permanent Waves
2112
Moving Pictures
Hemispheres
Caress of Steel
Fly by night
And Rush in Rio is on my 2 best dvd's ever (other: Led Zeppelin "how the west was won")
thunderzstruck
03-22-2005, 06:57 PM
I only have The Spirit of Radio and 2112 :(
tsrocks48
03-22-2005, 07:06 PM
Time Stand Still was off of 2112.
Sorry, dude, but Time Stand Still was on Presto, which is a very good album.
It was an honest mistake. I just can't bring myself to rip on a fellow Rush fan!
TRIVIA: did you know that all the effects and multiple parts (I.E., keyboard parts while Geddy is playing on bass, different guitar parts, etc.) are all triggered onstage by the band themselves? It does't sound like much unless you have seen their live show. There are about 5 parts playing simultaneously during Tom Sawyer alone! Gods among men....
3rdplanet
03-22-2005, 07:14 PM
Ok, I'm a big Dream Theater fan, but never been able to crack into the Rush sound and I would like to give them another chance by actually buying an album and listening to it a lot and not just downloads...are there any particular albums which may appeal to me?!
I love YYZ now I have said that.
(and Roll the Bones :$)
Permanent Solution
03-22-2005, 07:20 PM
Ok, I'm a big Dream Theater fan, but never been able to crack into the Rush sound and I would like to give them another chance by actually buying an album and listening to it a lot and not just downloads...are there any particular albums which may appeal to me?!
I love YYZ now I have said that.
(and Roll the Bones :$)
2112 and moving pictures are generally considered their best efforts by the masses.
B0nz0
03-22-2005, 08:02 PM
2112 is a solid album
I've been listening to "Test For Echo" a bit lately. Good album, although I do enjoy Rush's earlier albums more than this one.
fuel4fire
03-22-2005, 08:32 PM
Rush is amazing!
Unfortunately, i only own
A Farewell to Kings (vinyl, cd)
Moving Pictures (vinyl)
Exit Stage Left (cassette)
I wish i had more.
My record player is broken so I can't listen to Moving Pictures :upset:
Distant Echoes
03-22-2005, 08:37 PM
Moving Pictures is by far my favorite album.
Half of my Rush songs on the computer are live, and the other half studio. Considering i have about 5 hours of each...it gets sort of repetitive; especially since i have some songs on there about 3 times, and unfortunantly rush's concerts are the least bit innovative (with some exceptions)
Next time they come in concert, i dont care how much the ticket, im gettin the best seat i can
Permanent Solution
03-22-2005, 08:39 PM
Luckily I've found many CDs at the used store so I own 2112, Farewell to Kings, Caress of steel, Hemispheres and signals. I have several more on mp3 though.
Distant Echoes
03-22-2005, 08:42 PM
Rush is the band ive seen most in stores as 'used'. I dont buy the used albums (i keep mine pristine), but i dont know whats up with that either.
Moving Pictures is by far my favorite album.
Half of my Rush songs on the computer are live, and the other half studio. Considering i have about 5 hours of each...it gets sort of repetitive; especially since i have some songs on there about 3 times, and unfortunantly rush's concerts are the least bit innovative (with some exceptions)
Next time they come in concert, i dont care how much the ticket, im gettin the best seat i can
La Villa Strangiato's first guitar solo is spectacular on Exit:Stage Left.
I saw them in Hartford in August: 16th row seats. :cool: It was a three-and-a-half hour concert. :eek: It was awesome.
thunderzstruck
03-22-2005, 11:22 PM
Anyone who doesn't think Alex or Geddy don't have chops they need to go listen to La Villa Strangiato.
Anyone who doesn't think Alex or Geddy don't have chops they need to go listen to La Villa Strangiato.
Too bad no one thinks they don't have chops. :p
"They can't play" is never a criticism that's levelled at Rush. "They can't sing" is, however, and unfortunately there's only a small bit of evidence to the contrary. :-/
YDload
03-23-2005, 12:05 AM
I think Geddy Lee's voice is awesome. But I also like high-pitched voices from Coheed and Cambria and The Mars Volta. Neither of those bands quite compares to Rush except in the "some people don't like the vocals" department, though.
I got their hits album "The Spirit of Radio" and I'm really getting into the songs, learning to play them on bass and stuff. Really fun.
tsrocks48
03-23-2005, 01:01 PM
Too bad no one thinks they don't have chops. :p
"They can't play" is never a criticism that's levelled at Rush. "They can't sing" is, however, and unfortunately there's only a small bit of evidence to the contrary. :-/
That, my friend, is a load of sh**, and you know it. Unlike most artists, I've never heard Geddy sing out of tune. Everything he does is constructed to fit the song, and nothing more. Pure genius!
Thunder Fingers
03-23-2005, 01:08 PM
i so wanna see rush.. sorry Iron Maiden for saying this, but it might had been the biggest thing that had happened to me.. but chances are rather small that they will come to norway...
and you have do be deaf to say that Rush dont have chops....
And geddy lee is awsome! I love his voice... but his bass playing most of all.. he have putted the standard, and no rock bassist can reach it...
That, my friend, is a load of sh**, and you know it. Unlike most artists, I've never heard Geddy sing out of tune. Everything he does is constructed to fit the song, and nothing more. Pure genius!
Chill out, fanboy. He's had his fair share of strained nights, and in the early days his voice was nearly unlistenable to many people. His voice is still very hard to get into for most folks, and although it is better now than it was he still has a hard time singing the old material correctly due to the relative lack of melody in those songs. I love Rush and am ok with his voice, but other people have ears too, and most of them would tell you that Geddy's voice is girly or just awful, and there's few truly normal-register moments with which to prove them undeniably wrong, is all I'm saying. His voice is so unique that it's always going to be a toss-up between hatred and affection, and most people will choose "hatred." I may disagree with them that it sucks, but I will agree that it's very unlike the style of most other singers I consider to be good.
Thunder Fingers
03-23-2005, 01:16 PM
Geddy can sing higher than most girls realy...:lol: ever heard "Avilable light"? i was like: "Jeeeez! is that possible for a guy?!"
Geddy can sing higher than most girls realy...:lol: ever heard "Avilable light"? i was like: "Jeeeez! is that possible for a guy?!"
Try "The Fountain of Lamneth Part I." :-/
I love Rush so much, though. Alex Lifeson has got it all as a guitar player: he's one of my primary influences.
B0nz0
03-23-2005, 01:43 PM
Try "The Fountain of Lamneth Part I." :-/
I love Rush so much, though. Alex Lifeson has got it all as a guitar player: he's one of my primary influences.
as a drummer, neil peart is my god
as a drummer, neil peart is my god
Truly. He's one tight guy.
Thunder Fingers
03-23-2005, 02:06 PM
I play bass, so geddy is ofcourse my idol(one of em..) when i start guitar, Alex Lifeson is gonna be my idol there, does it completely perfect, the guy have everything i would want of a guitarist.. i realy hope i can find a guy who have kinda the same style, like fruiscante of RHCP, they are completely different players, but they have the same kinda apparoach to the guitar.
and neil as a drummer... if i was in geddys position... i would be in heaven.. like you can hear on Neils drum tracks how the bassline should be... (like la villa strangiato before the bass kicks in... you hear on the drum track how the bass is going to go...)
I play bass, so geddy is ofcourse my idol(one of em..) when i start guitar, Alex Lifeson is gonna be my idol there, does it completely perfect, the guy have everything i would want of a guitarist.. i realy hope i can find a guy who have kinda the same style, like fruiscante of RHCP, they are completely different players, but they have the same kinda apparoach to the guitar.
and neil as a drummer... if i was in geddys position... i would be in heaven.. like you can hear on Neils drum tracks how the bassline should be... (like la villa strangiato before the bass kicks in... you hear on the drum track how the bass is going to go...)
Where do you live? I could be in your group. :D
Thunder Fingers
03-23-2005, 02:16 PM
I doubt it.. Norway :p
I doubt it.. Norway :p
Ah. Oh well, best of luck to you then. :p
Thunder Fingers
03-23-2005, 02:25 PM
:lol: thank you very much :p
its hard to find great players, not that im calling my self great, but i start to kinda... play away from my band... i want someone who can outplay me(the rest of the band is kinda.. standing the same place they did a year ago...exept the vocalist.. shes scaringly good..)
tsrocks48
03-23-2005, 03:02 PM
Chill out, fanboy. He's had his fair share of strained nights, and in the early days his voice was nearly unlistenable to many people. His voice is still very hard to get into for most folks, and although it is better now than it was he still has a hard time singing the old material correctly due to the relative lack of melody in those songs. I love Rush and am ok with his voice, but other people have ears too, and most of them would tell you that Geddy's voice is girly or just awful, and there's few truly normal-register moments with which to prove them undeniably wrong, is all I'm saying. His voice is so unique that it's always going to be a toss-up between hatred and affection, and most people will choose "hatred." I may disagree with them that it sucks, but I will agree that it's very unlike the style of most other singers I consider to be good.
Sorry, dude. my intent was not to be a jerk. I tend to get pretty defensive sometimes, especially when I can't see who I'm defending against.
Oh, and point well taken. Way to stick up for yourself. :thumb:
what other bands do rush sound similar? and what songs / albums would you guys recommend getting to start with?
Sorry, dude. my intent was not to be a jerk. I tend to get pretty defensive sometimes, especially when I can't see who I'm defending against.
Oh, and point well taken. Way to stick up for yourself. :thumb:
No problem, mate. :thumb:
To Cain:
That was handled like a proffessional, seriously, well done.
:thumb:
what other bands do rush sound similar? and what songs / albums would you guys recommend getting to start with?
Caress Of Steel.
It's deffinitley the easiest to get into.
dustyboy316
03-23-2005, 04:54 PM
Moving Pictures is a good one for a Rush noob.
3rdplanet
03-23-2005, 05:02 PM
Listening to The Fountain of Lamneth right now. Good Shizzle.
Arucard
03-23-2005, 05:04 PM
Ive seen Rush live, and it was the most awesome live show ever. Flame walls and everything. I love Lifeson, freaking genius.
Anything and everything off COS is great,
especially the Necromancer.
ToolBox
03-23-2005, 05:51 PM
Okay, first time to chime in in this thread for me, but I FREAKING LOVE RUSH. I mean I can't describe the euphoria listening to Rush gives me.
The full albums I have are:
2112
Farewell to Kings
Caress of Steal (Just bought after reading this thread)
Fly by Night
Hemispheres (one of my personal favorite)
Moving Pictures
Test for Echo
Vapor Trails
If I wanted to I could break down pretty much every Rush song I've heard and tell what I love about it and how great each one is.
I'll only mention a few to save time:
YYZ (my tied-favorite instrumental song of ALL time---it is just the perfect blend of virtuosity and song writing, every instrument compliments the other.)
La Villa (another great instrumental song, just a perfect ballad.)
2112 (I mean wow, 20 minutes and I could listen to it over and over, I love the lyrics and the way its structured)
Freewill (its just so catchy)
Spirit of Radio (see Freewill :P)
I mean, being a bassist, Geddy is one of my biggest influences. He fits in the band perfectly, the perfect combination of following and then leading. Not only is he influential to me, but he influenced other greats (Harris, Les Claypool.)
Switching subjects REALLY quickly, I started to turn a few of my friends onto Rush, which is good news.)
I'd probbably say my favourite Rush song is the Necromancer, closely followed by YYZ.
tsrocks48
03-23-2005, 06:59 PM
I really like Distant Early Warning from Grace Under Pressure, and By-Tor and the Snow Dog from Fly by Night, both of which nobody has mentioned (I think)
the low end theorist
03-23-2005, 08:43 PM
i'm going through a definite rush phrase myself. great band-all VERY talented individuals!!!! i'm learning quite a bit of their stuff on bass. one day i will master by-tor and the snow dog and bastille day!!!!! oh yeah...yyz....*drools and shakes head in disbelief*....wow.... :p
To Cain:
That was handled like a proffessional, seriously, well done.
:thumb:
:cool: hehe, thanks man.
Rush need to completely redo Necromancer. If they did it with the musical and conceptual skill they have now it would be classic.
But they'll never do it. I strongly suspect that the Necromancer is counted among the songs Geddy said he listened back to (before the last tour) and decided he'll never play them again. :-/
No matter how much the fans want it, either.
Ive seen Rush live, and it was the most awesome live show ever. Flame walls and everything. I love Lifeson, freaking genius.
Yeah, the pyro they have for "One Little Victory" on the "Feedback" tour owns. Burned my face all the way in the 16th row! **** that's hot!
Steerpike
03-23-2005, 09:14 PM
Yeah, the pyro they have for "One Little Victory" on the "Feedback" tour owns. Burned my face all the way in the 16th row! **** that's hot!
Or maybe you're just that white. :p
Distant Echoes
03-23-2005, 10:00 PM
I love them pyrotechnics...theexplosions really are no joke though.
Other then all the effects any band can get into, rush was one of the only bands to use a titantron for animation throughout their whole concert. Its cool because it gives you something to watch incase you dont like staring at the band play on stage for 3 hours.
Just to bring up a topic...what were some other bands that used an animation screen throughout their concerts (other then floyd)
Or maybe you're just that white. :p
Don't make fun. :angry:
/concedes that it is a possibility. :(
DOUBLE EDIT: Oh wait, I meant burned in terms of how hot it felt while it was on, not physically burned me like a sunburn. :p Silly ninja pirate.
FlamingCouch
03-23-2005, 10:30 PM
Rush is amazing. They're one of my favorite bands, and all three members are definately three of the best musicians at their crafts.
willis2441
03-23-2005, 11:00 PM
arent they canadian?
arent they canadian?
Yes. But they rule despite it.
Steerpike
03-23-2005, 11:06 PM
Don't make fun. :angry:
/concedes that it is a possibility. :(
DOUBLE EDIT: Oh wait, I meant burned in terms of how hot it felt while it was on, not physically burned me like a sunburn. :p Silly ninja pirate.
I stand by my previous statement.
EDIT: Hmm. That was funnier in my head.
I stand by my previous statement.
You suck. :mad: :upset: :upset: :upset:
/is trying to take it like a good sport but is too sensitive to be successful. :p
EDIT: Hmm. That was funnier in my head.
:) Oh well. We all have to make an off one every now and then, yes?
Steerpike
03-23-2005, 11:14 PM
I think I used up most of the funny in the jokes thread earlier.
I think I used up most of the funny in the jokes thread earlier.
It's possible. :) Whatever. How are you tonight?
Steerpike
03-23-2005, 11:23 PM
Same old grind. Having some interesting mood swings in my music though. Running Wild, Jimmy Cliff, Boston, and Candlemass.
You?
Same old grind. Having some interesting mood swings in my music though. Running Wild, Jimmy Cliff, Boston, and Candlemass.
You?
I'm ok. Had a tiring day at work, and driving home in the middle of our blizzard was utter hell...I had to inch up a mountain at 15 miles an hour and it was a nightmare.
I had manicotti for dinner though, which rocked. I'm listening to some downloads that AntiHero put up.
rivendell
03-24-2005, 12:40 AM
Rush is the bees knees! I've been buying there albums in chronological order for some time know, and I have to say there all some of the best albums I own! I have to get Hemispheres, the next own in order.
And the fact that there from Cananda just makes them better!
Steerpike
03-24-2005, 12:42 AM
Rush is the bees knees!
Wow, I don't think I've heard that expression since I wrote that pulp fiction screenplay.
The Half Pint
03-24-2005, 12:51 AM
Rush rox my sox.
They're great in concert so see them if they're ever in your town.
thunderzstruck
03-24-2005, 11:02 AM
rush is awesome
thunderzstruck
03-24-2005, 09:54 PM
So what's your overall fav. song by rush?
FlamingCouch
03-24-2005, 10:02 PM
Spirit of the Radio or Earthshine.
So what's your overall fav. song by rush?
La Villa Strangiato, Hemispheres, and probably either the Spirit of Radio or Marathon. The Big Money, The Weapon, Digital Man, and Analog Kid are all up there too.
And then 2112. :)
Permanent Solution
03-25-2005, 12:06 AM
I think Bastille Day.
I think Bastille Day.
Really? Why?
Permanent Solution
03-25-2005, 12:09 AM
Really? Why?
One of the first ones I ever heard, and I don't know, I just like it for no good reason...plus I can play it :)
My favourite Rush song is The Necromancer,
mainly because:
It has around 3 different sections,
It has a really weird and atmospheric undertone to it,
The Lyrics are mind blowing,
As always with Rush, superb instrumentation.
:cool:
kas_ofi
03-25-2005, 07:15 AM
So what's your overall fav. song by rush?
...Xanadu, A farewell to kings, Natural science, The spirit of radio and La villa strangiato.
Thunder Fingers
03-25-2005, 07:33 AM
ergh... red barchetta and limelight is pretty high.. but "out of the cradle" is AMAZING!
thunderzstruck
03-25-2005, 11:28 AM
The Spririt of Radio (first song i ever heard by them) and 2112 are my fav.
Steerpike
03-25-2005, 12:27 PM
Spirit of Radio is a favorite of mine. I wish I could play that good. Sadly... I just can't. :upset:
Thunder Fingers
03-25-2005, 12:48 PM
spirit of the radio aint that hard.. have you tried to play it? realy.. it goes in a e Major scale all the way...
the verse riff goes 1, 5, 3, flatted 4 and 5...
I think i've had every Rush song stuck in my head at one point or another. That's awesome.
Steerpike
03-25-2005, 01:35 PM
spirit of the radio aint that hard.. have you tried to play it? realy.. it goes in a e Major scale all the way...
the verse riff goes 1, 5, 3, flatted 4 and 5...
My right-hand technique is appalling. I'm way too heavy-handed.
thunderzstruck
03-25-2005, 03:05 PM
I used to be able to play the beginning of Spirit of Radio perfectly and up to speed but now since I have not played it in a while I can't nomore :upset:
FlamingCouch
03-25-2005, 10:06 PM
I can't play the beginning for beans.
Marazetti
03-26-2005, 12:05 PM
I have most of their CD's. Great band.
/Can play the Spirit of Radio :D
And La Villa Strangiato :eek:
mdrumman
03-26-2005, 12:22 PM
Ok thats kool that you all can play the intro to SOTR on guitar but try playing O basteria on drums (Neil Peart's solo). Now that takes endurance.
Thunder Fingers
03-26-2005, 04:29 PM
oh were going "brag about the rush songs you can play" line... ah well :lol:
Can play Spirit of the radio..
can play YYZ..
can play Dreamline..
can play much of La villa Strangiato..
can play IN KEY with all of Working Man..:p
part of riffs from Fly by Night..
they might not sound good, but ****it, i can play them! :lol:
freakmeeko
03-26-2005, 04:33 PM
I can play all of Rush's keyboard solos.
/keyboard brag (if there was any)
YDload
03-26-2005, 04:59 PM
oh were going "brag about the rush songs you can play" line... ah well :lol:
Can play Spirit of the radio..
can play YYZ..
can play Dreamline..
can play much of La villa Strangiato..
can play IN KEY with all of Working Man..:p
part of riffs from Fly by Night..
they might not sound good, but ****it, i can play them! :lol:
Learn Freewill; the bass solo is fun.
I can play a lot of Rush's songs on Guitar, some excellently, some ok.
Alex Lifeson is my favourite Prog Rock guitarist :cool:
3rdplanet
03-26-2005, 06:01 PM
Man, I <3 The Fountain of Lamneth.
The more Rush I listen to, the more I am starting to enjoy them.
3 piece band aswell, so much going on in their sound.
Geddy has a great voice!
Their web-site is fantastic :lol:
Distant Echoes
03-26-2005, 06:40 PM
As soon as i get a keyboard, im gonna learn Tom Sawyer.
On guitar, i know
Tom Sawyer
Distant Early Warning
Spirit of Radio (not so good though)
2112 (overature/temple)
something else i forget
Their fun to play. I wish their was a full guitar tab for working man on the internet though. There all just the same fragments of the song
EDIT: yes, my last post did get screwed up
I have the note-for-note tab in a Rush book. I've always thought that I'd make a tab of it someday, although writing it in real music would be easier. :-/ Maybe I can scan it at school and send it to you as a PDF.
The Four Key
03-27-2005, 01:27 AM
Rush is so much better than Dream Theater. Dream Theater has pointless 15 minute keyboard solos. Rush is catchy and overall better music.
So is a 15 minute keyboard solo is not okay, but guitars and drums can do 15 minutes solos. Have you ever even been to a concert.
Thunder Fingers
03-27-2005, 09:30 AM
Their fun to play. I wish their was a full guitar tab for working man on the internet though. There all just the same fragments of the song
you know that thing called ears? :thumb:
For some reason i get rush songs down fairly easy.. but Iron Maiden songs... that takes time... :lol: i have no idea why...
heyho_letsgo
03-27-2005, 03:05 PM
I absolutely love Neil's solo. its ****in awesome!!! My favorite song is Tom Sawyer
Thunder Fingers
03-27-2005, 03:38 PM
Learn Freewill; the bass solo is fun.
yeah, when i get an overdrive i will start on the songs that use that. it sounds so much cooler, and willl give me boost to learn them...
thunderzstruck
03-27-2005, 06:56 PM
And La Villa Strangiato :eek:
Seriously?!?!
I have a hard time playing it even in my dreams :lol:
thunderzstruck
03-27-2005, 06:59 PM
I have the note-for-note tab in a Rush book. I've always thought that I'd make a tab of it someday, although writing it in real music would be easier. :-/ Maybe I can scan it at school and send it to you as a PDF.
Yeah I also have that book. The purple one.
I can play
YYZ (no solo yet)
Tom Sawyer (no solo yet)
Working Man (no solo yet)
Spirit of Radio (no solo yet)
Thinking of learning Teh trees or closer to the heart.
And yes, I don't have the attention span to learn the solos :upset:
thunderzstruck
03-29-2005, 05:06 PM
bump
the low end theorist
03-31-2005, 09:59 AM
you know that thing called ears? :thumb:
For some reason i get rush songs down fairly easy.. but Iron Maiden songs... that takes time... :lol: i have no idea why...
HA! i'm just the opposite-i've learned quite a few maiden songs by ear (except prodigal son-that was TOUGH!!!) but rush-they've taken me a while.
Thunder Fingers
03-31-2005, 10:06 AM
Running Free by maiden was the first ong i ever learned by ear..:p i was running around the house being happy afterwards..:lol:
my latest acomplisment is Spirit of the radio :cool:
:cool:
Waha! Running Free is a cool song.
Converse
03-31-2005, 01:05 PM
Rush rock !!! Im listening to them alot lately, the 2112 album. Its a good album. RUSH ROCK !
:cool:
Waha! Running Free is a cool song.
Most hardcore Maiden fans consider "Running Free" to be utter banality of the worst sort. :-/
Shattered_Future
03-31-2005, 02:21 PM
Rush = Best prog rock/metal trio EVER
IMO of course...
Distant Echoes
03-31-2005, 04:19 PM
my latest acomplisment is Spirit of the radio :cool:
That intro riff is sick...But somedays i can barely arrange my hand coordination to play it and other days i nail it. Lately, since i havent been showing progress, i found it easier to rock the Wawa pedal back and forth with the flanger one while playing the riff...because it sounds pretty sweet, and it covers up my mistakes well :cool: :upset:
The solo is crazy though...its so sloppy i have no idea what to do to play ratinally close to Lifeson since its so sloppy (and i prefer innovating).
Ive been looking at some of their equipment lately, and i seen lifesons guitar go for appr. $3000. Not his personally, but just the model. Thats a ****load for a hollowbody electric.
Does anybody know a webpage that list Pearts current Drum setup...but the specifics for the whole set. I only know the general setup and makes of everything
Most hardcore Maiden fans consider "Running Free" to be utter banality of the worst sort. :-/
I love it... :)
But yeah, back to Rush!
Copeland
03-31-2005, 04:38 PM
Rush = Best prog rock/metal trio EVER
IMO of course...
Metal? I dunno. Maybe for their time they could have been considered borderline prog metal, but still, they really aren't that heavy. I think the heaviest they get is Tom Sawyer. Overall their music is fairly happy and uplifting. It always puts me in a good mood. Maybe its just Geddy's voice. :rolleyes:
thunderzstruck
03-31-2005, 04:57 PM
Metal? I dunno. Maybe for their time they could have been considered borderline prog metal, but still, they really aren't that heavy. I think the heaviest they get is Tom Sawyer. Overall their music is fairly happy and uplifting. It always puts me in a good mood. Maybe its just Geddy's voice. :rolleyes:
If I m a bad mood I always listen to Rush. Working Man I think would be heaviest.
TojesDolan
03-31-2005, 10:01 PM
I just got Feedback. amazing record. Not as complex at moments like other albums, but the last songs are just amazing (think it's Crossroads) what are your thoughts on feedback?
joedaddy21291
03-31-2005, 11:27 PM
Metal? I dunno. Maybe for their time they could have been considered borderline prog metal, but still, they really aren't that heavy. I think the heaviest they get is Tom Sawyer. Overall their music is fairly happy and uplifting. It always puts me in a good mood. Maybe its just Geddy's voice.
geddy isnt just a great singer, hes an amazing bass player too.
geddy isnt just a great singer, hes an amazing bass player too.
Geddy's not that great.
Seafroggys
03-31-2005, 11:48 PM
But Geddy is such a cool name though.
YDload
03-31-2005, 11:56 PM
Geddy's not that great.
At singing maybe, but he's a phenomenal bass player. He might not have any special techniques, yet he's really great at playing tough fills, syncopated notes, and all while singing!
Leper
04-01-2005, 12:47 AM
he Geddys the job done...wow that was bad.
At singing maybe, but he's a phenomenal bass player. He might not have any special techniques, yet he's really great at playing tough fills, syncopated notes, and all while singing!
I meant at singing. His skill on bass is indisputable, true enough.
TojesDolan
04-01-2005, 02:12 AM
The singing on the newer records is a lot more friendly. The older records have a really whiny voice, but you just can't deny you love that crazy voice.
Thunder Fingers
04-02-2005, 06:15 AM
Most hardcore Maiden fans consider "Running Free" to be utter banality of the worst sort. :-/
now your kidding... we do? i didnt know that... its a live classic, and what makes it an even more classic is that it was the first song steve ever wrote...
I love Geddys voice, i think its great, and fits Rush very good, and hes the best band bass player out there, his basslines are awsome, and he knows EXACTLY where and what to put in, and dont tell me that his jumping 1 finger technique aint special... i have inhereted it myself when playing slower stuff..:lol:
Thunder Fingers
04-02-2005, 06:17 AM
Metal? I dunno. Maybe for their time they could have been considered borderline prog metal, but still, they really aren't that heavy. I think the heaviest they get is Tom Sawyer. Overall their music is fairly happy and uplifting. It always puts me in a good mood. Maybe its just Geddy's voice. :rolleyes:
i would say that one little victory is pretty metallish.. acctualy alot on "Vapor Trails" have a metallish sound.. so raw and aggresive...
Converse
04-02-2005, 06:29 AM
Rush are an extremely good band considering they only had 3 members
thunderzstruck
04-13-2005, 08:29 PM
bump...
thunderzstruck
06-16-2005, 12:54 PM
I remember this thread :)
thunderzstruck
06-16-2005, 05:13 PM
no love for rush no more :(
3rdplanet
06-16-2005, 05:19 PM
Rush! w00t!
I'm a huge rush fan. :). They're one of the most brilliant bands i've ever heard.
White_heat
06-16-2005, 05:53 PM
Going back to the Subject of their heaviest song...
I think the intro to "YYz" is the heaviest thing they wrote, but I have not heard all their songs.
White_heat
06-16-2005, 05:54 PM
Going back to the Subject of their heaviest song...
I think the intro to "YYz" is the heaviest thing they wrote, but I have not heard all their songs.
thunderzstruck
06-16-2005, 06:43 PM
From what I have heard One Little Victory is their heaviest :-/
thunderzstruck
06-16-2005, 06:43 PM
I'm a huge rush fan. :). They're one of the most brilliant bands i've ever heard.
you speak da truth
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