Any other Stoner/Doom metal fans? [Archive] - Page 4

repcak

04-12-2006, 09:27 AM

No prob man, Hey I have a doubt, are Anathema considered Doom Metal? because I saw that some people didn't consider them DM but I really hear a lot of DM moments in their songs.

NP: Anathema - ...And I Lust
thank you, for uploading it.

1# the song you're listening is great :thumb:
Anathema are the first doom metal band i listened too and are still my favourite Doom metal bands out there! to be serious they are on my top 5 list of all bands i listen to.

and yes, Anathema are doom! at first they made Doom-death Metal (as you hear in ....And I Lust); After the realse of "The Silent Enigma" (Their last doom death album) they changed their singer and started to make depressive-rock. and seriously i can't decide which anathema is better. old anathema and new anathema are both great! :thumb:

(old) Anathema opened for me doors to another world ...

- Serenades
- The Silent Enigma
- The Crestfallen
/me loves them

Txus

04-12-2006, 10:15 AM

^^ Fanboy :p

The Dark Suns album has been sent.

RideTheSpiral

04-12-2006, 11:20 AM

If you're serious, tell him thanks for making some really, really excellent music. :thumb: They've made a fanboy out of me.

Yeah, he only joined recently though. Didn't write any music.

repcak

04-12-2006, 11:32 AM

^^ Fanboy :p

The Dark Suns album has been sent.
thank you, i downloaded the file and i listening to them right now. sounds nice. :thumb:

NP: Daydream

ATM

04-12-2006, 11:35 AM

Electric Wizard rules.

God, you are so right. They are amazing.

Freezing Moon

04-12-2006, 05:05 PM

Epicurean Mass is one of my favorite doom albums.

Arucard

04-12-2006, 07:00 PM

Isole > All.

I just love Forevermore so much, such a brilliant peice of music!

Freezing Moon

04-12-2006, 11:17 PM

So I finally decided to check out Anathema. I downloaded their first EP... Crestfallen.

It seems pretty good, like Jondur said there seems to be a bit more doom than death which is cool. I like it a lot so far.

NP: The Sweet Suffering

repcak

04-13-2006, 03:31 AM

great! one more anathema fanboy :thumb:

get serenades - its my fav album by them from their doom-death time.

Jondur

04-13-2006, 04:42 AM

Epicurean Mass is one of my favorite doom albums.

Yes. I can't believe that they've gone from that album to complete inactivity. They made such an impact (rightly so) but still no follow up.

If they were still going they'd be the best US doom band.

Werny

04-13-2006, 06:11 AM

I absolutely LOVE My Dying Bride.

My fav songs of theres would be:

Black Heart Romance
For my fallen angel
for you
return to the beautiful

check them out, it's allllll good!

I have their whole discography except for the live album. For You is so absorbing and relaxing, yet the awesome groovey doom riffs don't seem out of place.

I still have yet to hear the re-recording of Return Of The Beautiful. Stupid guy I got The Dreadful Hours off didn't have it.

My favourite songs are
All Swept Away
Sear Me
The Cry Of Mankind
The Dreadful Hours
The Snow In My Hand
Your River
The Bitterness And The Bereavement

I like their first two records better than the rest. As The Flower Withers was my first Doom album, and I didn't know it had growling (I had only heard tracks from Like Gods Of The Sun), it scared the life out of me!

Jondur

04-18-2006, 06:38 AM

Looks like this thread has gone the same way as all the others

Listen to Bloodfarmers, Revelation and Count Raven. Now!

The Masked Guitarist

04-25-2006, 10:31 AM

i've heard people call Type O Negative doom but i do not agree at all they are just goth or somthing

repcak

04-25-2006, 10:37 AM

i will call them goth-(doom)-metal

Sleepy

04-25-2006, 10:47 AM

I'm glad this thread got bumped. I love doom/gothic but I really don't have much.

repcak

04-25-2006, 11:30 AM

what do you have? maybe i can recommend you some bands ...

the2stranger

04-25-2006, 11:44 AM

I really love calm atmospheric interludes in funeral doom and after that bonecrushing riffs and gutterall growling.

/Slowly increases funeral dooom collection

Sleepy

04-25-2006, 12:43 PM

what do you have? maybe i can recommend you some bands ...

I have My Dying Bride, Katatonia, Anathema, Virgin Black, and Candlemass. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated. :thumb:

Nepenthe

04-25-2006, 12:51 PM

I have My Dying Bride, Katatonia, Anathema, Virgin Black, and Candlemass. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated. :thumb:

Doomsword is some terrific doom with slight, very slight folk/viking tendencies.

Sleepy

04-25-2006, 12:53 PM

Doomsword is some terrific doom with slight, very slight folk/viking tendencies.

If it comes from BlackWizard, of course it has folk/viking influence!

Thanks, though. I'll see what I can dig up by them.

Nepenthe

04-25-2006, 12:56 PM

If it comes from BlackWizard, of course it has folk/viking influence!

Thanks, though. I'll see what I can dig up by them.

Sins Of Thy Beloved is also some terrific doom (very gothy, but very doomy as well so I feel they can be talked about in this thread) WITHOUT my obligatory folk/viking leanings. They do use alot of violins though...

Sleepy

04-25-2006, 01:00 PM

Sins Of Thy Beloved is also some terrific doom (very gothy, but very doomy as well so I feel they can be talked about in this thread) WITHOUT my obligatory folk/viking leanings. They do use alot of violins though...

Violins = secks

I'm ordering some CDs today, so I'll be looking into both Doomsword and Sins of Thy Beloved. Perfect timing, Wizard, and thanks a bundle for the recommendations. :)

repcak

04-25-2006, 01:01 PM

I have My Dying Bride, Katatonia, Anathema, Virgin Black, and Candlemass. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated. :thumb:
MDB, Katatonia and Anathema are my fav doom bands :thumb:

check out:
Novembre (especially Dreams D'Azur)
Lacrimas Profundere (Burning: A Wish), their last "doom" record, afterwards they got gothic... well the whole album is gothic-doom but its fantastic

and for gothic i would recommend:
Sentenced !!!! (especially "The Funeral album")
Killing Joke - Night Time (they are gothic rock)

Nepenthe

04-25-2006, 01:02 PM

Violins = secks

I'm ordering some CDs today, so I'll be looking into both Doomsword and Sins of Thy Beloved. Perfect timing, Wizard, and thanks a bundle for the recommendations. :)

Awesome. Don't mention it. Also keep an eye open for November's Doom.

Crysiss

04-25-2006, 01:05 PM

Thanks for the Sins Of Thy Beloved CD IATBW, I forgot to say that to you when you sent the CD:D

Im enjoying it alot.

Nepenthe

04-25-2006, 01:07 PM

Thanks for the Sins Of Thy Beloved CD IATBW, I forgot to say that to you when you sent the CD:D

Im enjoying it alot.

Awesome, glad you like them. They are one of my favorites. Very depressing and sorrow filled music. Incredibly emotional and powerful. Empyrium and them are two of my favorites of that sort of thing.

Crysiss

04-25-2006, 01:08 PM

Yea, I like the classical instruments used. It fits pretty well.

guitrguy

04-25-2006, 01:10 PM

What other albums by Lacrimas Profunde should I pick up beside the one sent out on the Daily Upload?

repcak

04-25-2006, 01:19 PM

Thanks for the Sins Of Thy Beloved CD IATBW, I forgot to say that to you when you sent the CD:D

Im enjoying it alot.
were they on the daily upload? they sound to be interesting ...

Nepenthe

04-25-2006, 01:24 PM

were they on the daily upload? they sound to be interesting ...

Nope. I can put some on there though if you want.

repcak

04-25-2006, 01:27 PM

yes, please. would like to listen to them

ATC

04-25-2006, 01:43 PM

What other albums by Lacrimas Profunde should I pick up beside the one sent out on the Daily Upload?

Their other good CD is Memorandum. It's the most Anathema doom-like of the lot. The earlier albums are them finding their sound, and the later albums after Burning are them moving in a completely different direction.

Two bands that sadly never get mentioned enough in this genre:
Grey skies fallen
Swallow the sun

I'll upload some of both this week.

guitrguy

04-25-2006, 01:44 PM

Grey Skies Fallen requested my friendship on myspace.

ATC

04-25-2006, 01:47 PM

My girlfriend knows Rick Habeeb of Grey skies. That was sort of a shock to me because he sent her tickets to Death in the Forest fest. It's way too far for us to go but nonetheless.

guitrguy

04-25-2006, 01:53 PM

I never thought they were big, I thought they where just a local band on myspace trying to spread their name.

Luc214

04-25-2006, 01:54 PM

Never heard doom.

Might dl some Candlemass.

Crysiss

04-25-2006, 02:02 PM

IMO, I dont really like Candlemass that much. Im not trying to discourage you from checking it out. I just thought id get my thoughts out.

Nepenthe

04-25-2006, 02:04 PM

IMO, I dont really like Candlemass that much. Im not trying to discourage you from checking it out. I just thought id get my thoughts out.

I like them quite a bit. They have some very good stuff on Epicus Doomicus Metallus. Other than that cd, though, I haven't really explored their discography.

Crysiss

04-25-2006, 02:06 PM

Epic Doom Metal:p

Maybe i should add a us to everything that already sounds cool.

Nepenthe

04-25-2006, 02:08 PM

Epic Doom Metal:p

Maybe i should add a us to everything that already sounds cool.

It would make you sound cooler as well.

the2stranger

04-25-2006, 02:44 PM

Their other good CD is Memorandum. It's the most Anathema doom-like of the lot. The earlier albums are them finding their sound, and the later albums after Burning are them moving in a completely different direction.

Two bands that sadly never get mentioned enough in this genre:
Grey skies fallen
Swallow the sun

I'll upload some of both this week.
I think i've mentioned Swallow The Sun a few times in this thread.
I think they're pretty good.
A Doom/Death band from Finland.
Very good vocalst, I love his deep growls.
I've ordered Ghost Of Loss a while back, the special edition, with a dvd with a clip and some live material, it's good stuff, I can recommend it to fans of doom/death.
I love the lyrics to descending Winter, not all that special but they fit very well with the feel of the music:

Descending winters for all lands,
All hope is gone, in his hands.
out from the north, in to the south,
winter turned his frozen mouth

repcak

04-25-2006, 03:16 PM

Swallow the Sun ... i was sure i had an album by them on my computer or somewhere... but it seems i don't :confused:

Nuke Broadcast

04-25-2006, 07:53 PM

Swallow the Sun ... i was sure i had an album by them on my computer or somewhere... but it seems i don't :confused:

ive got a pair, "ghosts of loss" and "the morning never came".
might ring a bell.

Txus

04-25-2006, 08:02 PM

If someone in here can PLEASEE send me some Katatonia besides Brave Murder Day I would appreciate it very much :)

I love that album so I would like to explore some more :)

Sleepy

04-25-2006, 08:09 PM

If someone in here can PLEASEE send me some Katatonia besides Brave Murder Day I would appreciate it very much :)

I love that album so I would like to explore some more :)

Post your email, and I'll send The Great Cold Distance.

Txus

04-25-2006, 08:25 PM

Post your email, and I'll send The Great Cold Distance.
Txus.mx@gmail.com

Thanks man.

Sleepy

04-25-2006, 08:44 PM

You should have a friendly little link waiting in your inbox now, Txus. :) Enjoy.

mindrotkillsanyotherbands

05-02-2006, 08:45 PM

Hi ****ing doom fans ;):smash:
you should check mindrot´s "dawning" album. it´s the best doom/death I´ve ever heard, and I´ve heard many doom albums! Not of one of them comes close to it. Does anyone have the live demo? I have all the others...
I have only a few favourites in doom... they are:
mindrot-everything
skepticism-stormcrowfleet
esoteric-everything
tyranny - everything
neurosis - through silver
any good ideas from people, who like these? which **** I could check?
Thanks for everything!
****ing Greetings from ****ing Germany:chug: Why do these ****ing smiley´s only have bear? Is theirs whiskey gone? huhaha:chug:

the2stranger

05-03-2006, 09:12 AM

So anyone in love with Shape Of Despair?
Awesome funeral doom band from Finland.
I love how they use a violin, they use female vocals too, but more to add atmospehere (in a chanting choir like style) it's very good.

on antoher note: I sent Swallow The Sun - Ghosts Of Loss to Metaloz, so you can be expecting the album in you rinboxes in a few days.

Sleepy

05-03-2006, 09:49 AM

on antoher note: I sent Swallow The Sun - Ghosts Of Loss to Metaloz, so you can be expecting the album in you rinboxes in a few days.

Ah, thanks for that, man. I've been wanting to hear those guys for a while now.

repcak

05-03-2006, 10:22 AM

Yeah i like Shape of Despair... i think it was you who recommended them to me! :thumb:

great funeral doom... its the kind of doom metal i love :D slow, growls, epic :D

Tyler

06-18-2006, 12:57 AM

Has anyone heard of YOB? I've been listening to The Unreal Never Lived lately, and it's ****ing epic.

Here's a shitty quality mp3 from stonerrock if anyone wants to hear.
http://www.stonerrock.com/jukebox/YOB-Quantum_Mystic.mp3

Kyle

06-18-2006, 04:12 AM

Sorry to be linking myspace accounts, but this band is actually really good.

http://www.myspace.com/jecano

They are local from near me, and I've seen them a few times live, they were excellent each time. Check out the song 'Tyrewall' and let me knbow what you think.

Werny

06-18-2006, 06:35 AM

I've recently re discovered how much I love Let loose The Swans of My Dying Bride.
such an awesome album.

riding on my bike back home in the middle of the night with an icy wind and this cd on, what an experience.

That album's awesome wherever I listen to it. The guitar tones Calvin had on that record were chilling.

Stoic

06-18-2006, 07:02 AM

Are there any Sleep fans? If so I would like to hear some opinions/info.

Tyler

06-18-2006, 10:38 AM

I absolutely love Sleep. They're my favourite band in the whole spectrum of stoner/doom/sludge. I made a thread on them a little while ago.

Here's my fred: http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=470126&highlight=dopesmoker

I see you posted in it though so that won't do you any good. I could send some stuff to you if you'd like. Or just upload it to the daily upload.

Tyler

06-18-2006, 11:03 AM

Stoic

06-18-2006, 12:56 PM

The Locust

06-18-2006, 01:08 PM

Favorite Bands:

Bongzilla
Black Sabbath
Acid King
Buzzoven
Weedeater
Electric Wizard
Goatsnake
The Hidden Hand
High On Fire
Sleep
Crowbar

Tyler

06-18-2006, 01:12 PM

Favorite Bands:

Bongzilla
Black Sabbath
Acid King
Buzzoven
Weedeater
Electric Wizard
Goatsnake
The Hidden Hand
High On Fire
Sleep
Crowbar
this man has good taste

The Locust

06-18-2006, 02:34 PM

haha thanks :thumb:

Do you know any other good stoner metal bands? I've tried to get into Kyuss lately but they just aren't working for me.

Tyler

06-18-2006, 02:39 PM

Has anyone heard Witch? They're a pretty straightforward stoner rock band but still awesome.

Linkage:
http://www.myspace.com/witchofficial
http://www.teepeerecords.com/bands/witch/

edit: Locust, just check out these guys, you'll probably like em.

edit2: I recommend The Sword too.
http://www.myspace.com/thesword

Kyle

06-18-2006, 03:58 PM

The Sword freakin' awesome, they supported Nebula here in the UK. And whilst talking of Nebula, check them and Fu Manchu out Locust, if you havn't already.

Edit: Tyler, Witch is pretty cool stuff. Have you heard Dead Meadow? they are in the Witch's top 8 friends, they supported Dinosaur Jr when I saw them, pretty cool. If you havn;t check them out, they're kinda stoner-ish in their jam style, but they don't really play riffs.

Tyler

06-18-2006, 04:00 PM

Nebula are great.

Kyle

06-18-2006, 04:05 PM

Yeah, the band that got me into stoner rock really. I did a review of Dos EP's for this site :D

Check it, if you feel like a read - http://www.sputnikmusic.com/album.php?reviewid=7169

Tyler

06-18-2006, 04:21 PM

Haha, I think you mean something different by 'South America' than it reads. I haven't heard that album, but it was a good review and you described their sound well.

Kyle

06-18-2006, 04:38 PM

Oops, yeah good point, fixed. Thanks for the compliment too.

Any of you guys into The Atomic Bitchwax? I'm into them more than any other band of this style right now.

Bartender

06-18-2006, 06:35 PM

They have basked in le spotlight d'Steerpike before.

Has anyone heard of YOB? I've been listening to The Unreal Never Lived lately, and it's ****ing epic.

Here's a shitty quality mp3 from stonerrock if anyone wants to hear.
http://www.stonerrock.com/jukebox/YOB-Quantum_Mystic.mp3

They're okay. I have The Illusion of Motion. It's okay, like I say, but they could with improving plenty.

I recommend The Sword too.

I checked out Age of Winters a while ago. It was pretty good but it just sounded like good old heavy metal, not stoner anything.

Anyway, I'm kind of surprised to see you bump this thread for a whole page of conversation and make no mention of Boris, given your avatar.

Tyler

06-18-2006, 06:43 PM

Then Boris we shall discuss. Thoughts on 'Pink'?

Bartender

06-18-2006, 06:56 PM

Unfortunately my thoughts on Pink are currently restricted, mostly to things like "I love the fact that it's finally winging its way towards me". I just finally managed to get it for a half-decent price some time last week, so I don't have it yet, but I do have high hopes for it. Pretty much every reaction I've heard to it so far has been positive; by and large ridiculously positive. Hopefully this is a good thing. What do you think of it?

Tyler

06-18-2006, 07:01 PM

It's very diverse. There are mellow songs, ballsy rock songs, drone songs, slower bluesy songs...the first song is even a Mogwai-esque post-rock song. In short, I love it.

Kyle

06-19-2006, 06:17 AM

Wow, just listened to Boris, that's great stuff. What do you reccomend I listen to by them first? I only checked out the songs on their myspace; Pink, Korosu and Ibitsu.

Tyler

06-19-2006, 08:09 AM

I'd recommend Akuma No Uta or Pink if you liked those, since those are all more rock songs. Most of their other records are drone or really experimental stuff. Pink will give you a taste of everything though, so I'd go with that, then check out their back catalogue.

Bartender

06-19-2006, 12:13 PM

I think I'm kind of hoping Pink will play like an extended Akuma No Uta (showing off all the different styles they play in one release and whatnot). And be good whilst doing so, naturally.

Anyway, it didn't arrive this morning. Though Dawn of Possession and a lighter with a picture of a carp on it did.

Tyler

06-19-2006, 02:50 PM

I think I'm kind of hoping Pink will play like an extended Akuma No Uta (showing off all the different styles they play in one release and whatnot). And be good whilst doing so, naturally.
That's essentially what it is. Only better.

So uh...Cathedral? Who's into them? Satanic robots and such.

Kyle

06-19-2006, 03:46 PM

I always liked the instrumentation for Cathedral, but the vocals are pretty irritating on some songs. I like their upbeat stuff more than their doom stuff, The Garden of Unearthly Secrets is a good listen.

I like how this thread is going nicely again now, but I hope it doesn't turn into a 3 way discussion.

Tyler

06-19-2006, 04:06 PM

Cathedral's vocals/lyrics are all out cheese. That's why I love em.

There seems to be a few other dudes here into this stuff, I'm sure other people will get involved or whatever.

Kyle

06-19-2006, 04:09 PM

If it was cheesy lyrics which put me off, I would hardly like Nebula would I? :lol:

Tyler

06-19-2006, 04:11 PM

Hah, true. Cathederal are on a whole 'nother level of cheese though.

I recently checked out Candlemass because I was reading this thread and someone recommended them. Now THAT was the cheesiest thing I've ever heard. Right next to King Diamond.

Jondur

06-20-2006, 10:36 AM

I can see how someone who could really sing would put you off. Far better to hear some stupid hippie singing about drugs or some drone!

AA-12

06-20-2006, 10:45 AM

Anyone here like Goblin ****? I bought Bagged and Boarded yesterday, and I love it.

Kyle

06-20-2006, 11:36 AM

Anyone here like Goblin ****? I bought Bagged and Boarded yesterday, and I love it.I have never, but that's quite the amusing band name? What/who are they like?

I've been digging High On Fire today, not sure how relevant they are to this thread (I suck at genres), but it's good non-the-less.

AA-12

06-20-2006, 11:38 AM

They are actually really good. Here's a link to their myspace: http://myspace.com/goblincock

Tyler

06-20-2006, 12:16 PM

I can see how someone who could really sing would put you off. Far better to hear some stupid hippie singing about drugs or some drone!
I know you're the doom authority here so I'm not going to argue with you, I just wasn't into them.

Tyler

06-20-2006, 12:24 PM

Hahaha best cover art
http://www.absolutelykosher.com/AK034_400px.jpg

Kyle

06-20-2006, 12:26 PM

Haha, it's so hard to take that band seriously. But in actual fact, the tunes on their website are pretty cool.

AA-12

06-20-2006, 12:26 PM

Yeah, haha. It was awkward buying the album.

Tyler

06-20-2006, 12:28 PM

It took me a while to notice the giant purple goblin-hammer peeking out the bottom of his robe.

Jondur

06-21-2006, 04:01 AM

I know you're the doom authority here so I'm not going to argue with you, I just wasn't into them.

Sorry - bad day yesterday. You got off quite lightly! :chug:

If you liked the music but were just put off by Messiah's operatic vox then maybe check out the first album (Epicus Doomicus Metallicus) as that had a different singer. Solitude Aeturnus may also be more to your liking.

I still think you're mad for not liking Candlemass though.

Jondur

06-21-2006, 04:03 AM

Goddaaamn Trouble are ace. The self-titled is practically a fixture of my car stereo now. Unfortunately it's a bit of a licence loser - have to make a conscious effort to keep the speed down!

Come on people let me hear you say
You b@stards are gonna pay!

Werny

06-21-2006, 08:26 AM

I know everyone loves all the traditional and stonerised stuff...but can I get any love for funeral doom?

I did a review for Skepticism's Farmakon if anyone's interested.

I got Esoteric's latest, Subconscious Dissolution Into The Continuum, and it's one bada$$ mofo. The Blood Of The Eyes is the first ever song with growling in it to almost get a tear out of me, and the second half of it is really heavy and insane.

Jondur

06-21-2006, 08:38 AM

can I get any love for funeral doom?

No :thumb:

It's arse. :chug:

ATM

06-21-2006, 08:39 AM

Goblin ****!

They are so good, I have that album and I love it. The singer sounds like the guy from Pinback at times.

Kyle

06-21-2006, 08:59 AM

Goblin ****!

They are so good, I have that album and I love it. The singer sounds like the guy from Pinback at times.I think he IS the singer from Pinback.

Werny

06-21-2006, 10:03 AM

No :thumb:

It's arse. :chug:

God dam, now people aren't gonna give funeral a chance because you hate it.

Terrorizer have a 3-issue doom special going on...it's awesome, you'd expect it to be really mainstream but they have two pages on funeral, interviews with guys who run fanzines, bits about drone and even two pages on doom album art! It's given me a lot of bands to check out.

Guys...I really wanna get into the old trad doom, so what's the band to start with? Trouble? Witchfinder General? Vitus? Count Raven?

Kyle

06-21-2006, 03:12 PM

You should check out some Revelation...

Bartender

06-22-2006, 04:57 AM

God dam, now people aren't gonna give funeral a chance because you hate it.

To be fair, I didn't like it (what I'd heard at least) already. I'm quite a fan of some drone, but funeral doom just generally bores me to tears.

Jondur

06-22-2006, 05:28 AM

God dam, now people aren't gonna give funeral a chance because you hate it.

If I had that sort of power then there'd be a lot less crap stoner discussed in here! I want that power!! MWAAHHAAAHAHAAHA

Guys...I really wanna get into the old trad doom, so what's the band to start with? Trouble? Witchfinder General? Vitus? Count Raven?

It depends. You could start at the beginning. Sabbath, early Pentagram, Vitus, Trouble etc.

Or you could work backwards - Reverend Bizarre, Warning, Count Raven, Revelation etc.

Or you could start in the middle and listen to say Penance.

Werny

06-22-2006, 06:18 AM

It depends. You could start at the beginning. Sabbath, early Pentagram, Vitus, Trouble etc.

Or you could work backwards - Reverend Bizarre, Warning, Count Raven, Revelation etc.

Or you could start in the middle and listen to say Penance.

Mmm...guess I could go with some Pentagram.

NP: Skepticism - Nothing *nods*

Smackers

06-22-2006, 08:09 AM

Ocean
Boris
Corrupted
Burning Witch
Goatsnake

Werny

06-22-2006, 08:24 AM

I got Rampton by Teeth Of Lions Rule The Divine...it's fantastic! For those who don't know, it's Lee Dorrian, Sunn 0))) and Justin Greaves. Excellent drone/doom.

the2stranger

06-22-2006, 12:12 PM

Poofy 666

06-22-2006, 12:16 PM

Ocean
Boris
Corrupted
Burning Witch
Goatsnake
Listen to all of Llenandose de Gusanos before you go to sleep :)

the2stranger

06-22-2006, 12:27 PM

^
I did that once \m/
What happened Poofy you got banned?

Poofy 666

06-22-2006, 12:31 PM

Some idiot hacked my account and spammed :(

the2stranger

06-22-2006, 12:32 PM

:(
Will you get your old account back?

np: Sunn O))) - My Wall
\m/

Poofy 666

06-22-2006, 12:34 PM

I don't know :(

Bartender

06-22-2006, 02:54 PM

I'd imagine so.

eburton04

06-22-2006, 03:05 PM

Someone give me some extra-righteous Kyuss songs to check out. I've got some of their stuff already, and i really like them (what ive heard.. about 10 songs) but I want some more goodies to check out before i go out buying albums.

readysetgo!

americanfootball

06-22-2006, 05:54 PM

I got Rampton by Teeth Of Lions Rule The Divine...it's fantastic! For those who don't know, it's Lee Dorrian, Sunn 0))) and Justin Greaves. Excellent drone/doom.

That's my favourite album of all time. Have you heard Justin Greaves' new band Crippled Black Phoenix?

Tyler

06-22-2006, 06:02 PM

Kyle

06-22-2006, 06:09 PM

^^I'd add Demon Cleaner to that.

PAJJ

06-22-2006, 06:43 PM

Spaceship Landing is my fav.

ATM

06-22-2006, 07:48 PM

Mondo Generator is cool.

Jacaranda

06-22-2006, 08:03 PM

Thong Song or Thumb would be my favs.

Werny

06-22-2006, 11:15 PM

/Gives you love for Funeral Doom \m/
I will check out your review.
The Blood Of The Eyes is indeed amazing.

I will be buying some more funeral stuff in a while.

Muahahahahahaha!
I want to get one of Esoteric's earlier albums...but I don't know what one. Eeeegh.

I finally got a slab of traditional doom! Witchfinder General's Friends of Hell...I take back everything I've said before about trad doom. I love it!

I used to have no idea what people were on about when they said Melvins were the first really slow band and they practically invented drone. But I just heard Eye Flys and well, that changed a lot!

That's my favourite album of all time. Have you heard Justin Greaves' new band Crippled Black Phoenix?

I'm still at the level of doom noob, so I haven't even heard Iron Monkey. He's an amazing drummer though, emulates Dale Crover very well.

AA-12

06-22-2006, 11:24 PM

Is Anethema any good?

Jondur

06-23-2006, 04:53 AM

I still enjoy the debut and the 2 EPs. Past that I lost interest.

the2stranger

06-23-2006, 05:16 AM

Is Anethema any good?
Opposite to Jondor, I like the new stuff better.
Very nice prog stuff with a lot of dark influences.

I don''t like the vocals on the earlier doom releases.

Bartender

06-23-2006, 06:22 AM

I'm still at the level of doom noob, so I haven't even heard Iron Monkey.

Iron Monkey aren't really that good, if I remember correctly. I checked them out when Johnny died. To be fair that was a while ago, maybe I'll have changed my mind.

americanfootball

06-23-2006, 07:42 AM

Iron Monkey were amazing! I saw them once live as well, although the sound was really bad. They were a bit of a phenomenon when their first album was released, and got loads of press coverage.

Werny

06-23-2006, 08:03 AM

Ah. I'll still check Iron Monkey out for all times sake though...they play sludge right?

Eyehategod are the best sludge band. The angriest music I've ever heard.

the2stranger

06-23-2006, 08:04 AM

Werny:
You like Esoteric too?

Smackers

06-23-2006, 08:18 AM

Listen to all of Llenandose de Gusanos before you go to sleep :)

I've had it ordered for over 2 weeks now and apparently it's on back order so it'll be a little while before I get it. I'll just have to stick with El Mundo Frio for now.

Kyle

06-23-2006, 10:49 AM

Eyehategod are the best sludge band. The angriest music I've ever heard.Nuh uh, Electric wizard all the way.

Tyler

06-23-2006, 08:19 PM

I thought Electric Wizard were a doom band. My favourite sludge band is either Eyehategod or Crowbar.

ATM

06-23-2006, 08:21 PM

I love Electric Wizard. I really do need to look into more in the stoner/doom genre.

I only really know Orange Goblin, Goblin ****, and **** like that.

Tyler

06-23-2006, 08:49 PM

I guess I was wrong about Candlemass, I've been listening to Nightfall and it destroys.

ATM

06-23-2006, 08:50 PM

Ah yea I know some Candlemass, but I dont like the vocals too much :-/

Tyler

06-23-2006, 08:51 PM

I hated them at first because of the vocals on Epicus Doomicus Metallicus (different vocalist) but I like the other guy's vocals.

Werny

06-24-2006, 01:29 AM

Werny:
You like Esoteric too?

Hells yeah man, I've only got Subconscious Dissolution etc. though! It's a classic album but there's only four songs (one is an outro) so it feels kinda short.

That's why I wanna get their earlier albums, their first two were double disc and from the time when they were all taking arseloads of horrible drugs. Very psychedelic apparently.

Nuh uh, Electric wizard all the way.

I love the Wiz man, but Eyehategod are just violence incarnate. I think the Wiz's self titled debut is so underrated, it's so heavy and also has this really bizarre atmosphere to it (helped a lot by the cover art).
But I am questioning who is the best sludge band now, because I just got Melvins' Bullhead! Boris is BADA$$.

And I just heard Skin Horse by Melvins... I'll never look at chipmunks the same way, that is the freakiest thing I've ever heard.

Kyle

06-24-2006, 01:13 PM

I thought Electric Wizard were a doom band. My favourite sludge band is either Eyehategod or Crowbar.Hmm, I dunno, Dopethrone is pretty darn sludgy, but some of their stuff sounds even stoner-ish. Crowbar own....

I really do need to look into more in the stoner/doom genre.

I only really know Orange Goblin, Goblin ****, and **** like thatYeah, I'm just re-discovering my love for it. I've always been more of a stoner fan, but getting into a lot of doom as of late. I saw Orange goblin live earlier in the year, they were pretty awesome.

Werny

06-24-2006, 01:32 PM

I'd call the Wiz's first LP doom and their other ones sludge. I love it when stoner elements are brought into sludge... Bongzilla comes to mind!

iceman3019

06-24-2006, 02:33 PM

A_Guy

06-24-2006, 03:00 PM

i like most stoner rock that comes out of california, namely sleep, om, high on fire, kyuss, and queens of the stone age (though they are arguably stoner), and i'm a fan of slooow, agonizing doom, like asunder, graves at sea, etc . . .
I've never understood why people call them stoner. Just because Josh Homme was in Kyuss doesn't make them stoner.

ATM

06-24-2006, 03:13 PM

I think they have stoner rock elements though.

A_Guy

06-24-2006, 03:21 PM

I think they have stoner rock elements though.Well, on their debut album specifically. But as a whole, I'd say they're not stoner.

jewelz78

06-24-2006, 03:26 PM

Ok I'm sure this is about impossible because I dont know the artist but it was about 4-5 years ago its the alternative genre infact i was sure it was audi slave but I've been through there albums and found nothing. Its a song about a woman who ends up pulling a gun on a guy and i belive thr poinent part of the song is when she shoots him ? and no its not nickleback but similar type of song ...Ok well hope to get some hits on this

A_Guy

06-24-2006, 03:59 PM

iceman3019

06-24-2006, 04:12 PM

Well, on their debut album specifically. But as a whole, I'd say they're not stoner.
i'd also say that there's plenty of stoner elements on rated r, but they die down on songs for the deaf . . .

Kyle

06-24-2006, 05:47 PM

I'd only really say the first album is a stoner rock album, the rest is just mainstream rock really. It's all great stuff though, I don't think I've ever disliked a CD that Josh homme's been involved in.

Werny

06-25-2006, 06:35 AM

They have a very stoner aesthetic to them but yeah, way too modern and clean to be stoner rock.

I got Bathos! By Aarni! Wheeeee! Trippy shat.

Apocalyptic Raids

06-25-2006, 10:11 AM

I guess I was wrong about Candlemass, I've been listening to Nightfall and it destroys.
\m/

Well Of Souls is amazing.

Kyle

06-25-2006, 11:15 AM

Just ordered:
Clutch - Elephant Riders
Fu Manchu - California Crossing
Corrosion of Conformity - In the Arms of God

I guess the first two might apply to this thread.

ATM

06-25-2006, 11:16 AM

I need to get some Fu Manchu albums. I wish the singer was better, though.

Uberman

06-25-2006, 11:47 AM

I have become interested in doom via Reverend Bizarre, as I love every single one of their songs, so can people recommend bands similar to them?

Werny

06-25-2006, 12:18 PM

\m/

Well Of Souls is amazing.

I love the end, though I've never been able to tell; is that choir synths or Messiah singing along with the guitar?

Kyle

06-25-2006, 12:34 PM

I need to get some Fu Manchu albums. I wish the singer was better, though.I don't really mind the vocals at all, I mean it's not really singing, but the laid back style kinda suits the music. I'll upload some Fu Manchu in one of the mailing lists if you're in any?

Tyler

06-25-2006, 12:36 PM

I like Fu Manchu, but the songs all seem to blend together. Except Evil Eye of course because it was drilled into my ears all through childhood.

Kyle

06-25-2006, 01:05 PM

Yeah, that's why I can only listen to them in phases. They don't quite have the variation of some other stoner bands who will go into jam phases, but they rock a whole lot harder than most. It's all about King of the Road!

Smackers

06-25-2006, 06:31 PM

The only one I ever cared for was California Crossing, but then again, I've only heard a few.

ATM

06-25-2006, 07:00 PM

I don't really mind the vocals at all, I mean it's not really singing, but the laid back style kinda suits the music. I'll upload some Fu Manchu in one of the mailing lists if you're in any?

Im in the Alt/indie one. I got deleted from the rock/metal one :-/

Jondur

06-26-2006, 03:51 AM

I have become interested in doom via Reverend Bizarre, as I love every single one of their songs, so can people recommend bands similar to them?

St Vitus
Warning
Orodruin
Pentagram

Phototropic

06-26-2006, 06:07 AM

You guys need to check out this band for me and tell me what you think, I absoloutely love them, favourite band no contest

http://www.myspace.com/bombthesun

They are local and they have an album which is absoloute stoner genius (Flows like no other) so if you guys like the stuff I'll upload it for you

Kyle

06-26-2006, 07:09 AM

Bartender

06-26-2006, 10:30 AM

Sorry to bring yet more stoner into a thread that's lacking enough in doom as it is, but is anyone here familiar with Mannhai? I read a good review for their debut album when it was released back in 2001, so I downloaded a couple of tracks, loved them, couldn't find the album anywhere and eventually lost interest. Finally bought it (Amazon marketplace) about twenty minutes ago. Dug up the songs too, and they're about as good as I remember.

Werny

06-26-2006, 12:55 PM

Esoteric's Epistemological Despondency is one damn trippy album. I love it! It has that lo-fi sludge of Stormcrowfleet and all of these bad acid trip samples...aaaah glorious.

I suppose this question could start some discussion in here; when you listen to really trippy bands, or just stoner bands, do you feel like doing drugs (if you're not already)? I used to be really against drugs, even saying that if I saw one of my friends with illegal drugs I'd report them, but after I got Dopethrone and got into all of the sludge, stoner and funeral doom I have suddenly developed this craving for everything brain-melting and am now very "legalise it!" So yeah, has this music had the same effect on anyone else?

Kyle

06-26-2006, 02:24 PM

I feel like I should be saying no, and calling you stupid, but Stoner Rock has always had a similar effect on me. I don't know why exactly, but the experience of listening to it just seems to be amplified by drugs. I don't really like getting mixed up in all that on a regular basis though, I get just as big a thrill out of driving to it.

Phototropic

06-26-2006, 03:16 PM

Apparantly Swansea has a tight music scene, that band The Screamin' Eagles and The Buffalo Kings are pretty sweet too. I'll probably be at uni there next year (assuming I don't get into Cardiff), so all this music is making be pretty happy.

Anyways good stuff, would be cool if you could upload it.

Hell yeah dude, swansea is burstin at the seams

The monkey cafe is the place to be

If any of you stoner fans ever visit swansea be sure to let me know

I'll give uploadin a try now

Kyle

06-26-2006, 04:04 PM

Awesome, almost makes me hope I don't get into Cardiff :lol:

AA-12

06-26-2006, 05:27 PM

I just bought Electric Wizard - Dopethrone \m/

Jacaranda

06-26-2006, 06:14 PM

Awesome album definitly their best.

A_Guy

06-26-2006, 06:18 PM

ATM

06-26-2006, 06:18 PM

Thats the only one I have, and I love it.

Kyle

06-27-2006, 03:38 AM

Awesome album definitly their best.Really got into that this week, cheers for the upload.

Werny

06-27-2006, 06:00 AM

I like Let Us Prey better. Dopethrone just has too many parts that have inaudible guitar, like most of the title track and I, Witchfinder.

Kyle

06-27-2006, 06:23 AM

Yeah Let Us Prey is my favorite too, but I've always liked more upbeat stuff.

the2stranger

06-27-2006, 06:44 AM

Thanks for this.
But if I were you I'd remove it from your psot and just assk the people to give their email adresses.
You aren't allowed to post copyrighted stuff ( assume this is)

You're a champ for uploading this though!

AA-12

06-27-2006, 06:45 AM

I doubt it's RIAA covered.

AA-12

06-27-2006, 06:52 AM

How's the production?

Phototropic

06-27-2006, 07:03 AM

Great stuff, they did it at Sonic One which is probably the best studio in South Wales

Werny

06-27-2006, 07:25 AM

Yeah Let Us Prey is my favorite too, but I've always liked more upbeat stuff.

That didn't make sense to me, are you saying Let Us Prey or Dopethrone is more up-beat? Or neither?

One thing I love about Let Us Prey is how the drums sound. I know their drummer is probably the worst ever but he does some cool stuff on that album and yeah, they're produced well.

Apocalyptic Raids

06-27-2006, 07:29 AM

I got the Reverend Bizarre/Orodruin split today. Great stuff.

Kyle

06-27-2006, 07:41 AM

That didn't make sense to me, are you saying Let Us Prey or Dopethrone is more up-beat? Or neither?

One thing I love about Let Us Prey is how the drums sound. I know their drummer is probably the worst ever but he does some cool stuff on that album and yeah, they're produced well.Let Us Prey, I thought that would be obvious just be listening to the music. I guess I feel like I should like Dopethrone more, because it's the one everyone raves about, and that must be why I said 'but'.

americanfootball

06-27-2006, 09:42 AM

I just bought Electric Wizard - Dopethrone \m/

My third favourite album ever. :thumb:

AA-12

06-27-2006, 10:03 AM

It's fantastic.

Jondur

06-27-2006, 10:19 AM

I got the Reverend Bizarre/Orodruin split today. Great stuff.

That's a great slab of metallic vinyl! I particularly love the Orodruin side.

Kyle

06-27-2006, 05:10 PM

I did, I'm gonna listen tomorrow, after my final exam.

the2stranger

06-27-2006, 05:32 PM

Dopethrone has gotta be in my top 5 favourite albums, along with Panopticon by Isis

Any of you download that Bomb the sun EP?
I did too.
I'll listen to it tomorrow, had to listen to other stuff first.
I've been getiing so much new music lately :D.

Werny

06-28-2006, 07:11 AM

Let Us Prey, I thought that would be obvious just be listening to the music. I guess I feel like I should like Dopethrone more, because it's the one everyone raves about, and that must be why I said 'but'.

Hmm.

Let Us Prey sounds really trippy and gloomy to me, whilst Dopethrone has this dumb, stoner feel throughout, so I find Let Us Prey much less up-beat than Dopethrone. Just my thoughts.

I saw Manic Frustration by Trouble at a shop today so I purchased it... besides Candlemass and Saint Vitus, is there any Trad Doom bands that play doom? I still haven't found one!

Jondur

06-28-2006, 09:13 AM

I saw Manic Frustration by Trouble at a shop today so I purchased it... besides Candlemass and Saint Vitus, is there any Trad Doom bands that play doom? I still haven't found one!

Is this calculated to irritate me? Yes you managed to find the non-doom Trouble album (it is however a great album). Find the debut "Psalm 9" or "The Skull" or even "Run to the Light" then tell me it's not doom!

Candlemass are an epic doom band so very different to St Vitus (although both are most definitely doom). Similar bands who are very doom include Solitude Aeturnus, Solstice, Isole, While Heaven Wept, Millarca, Icefall.

Some more doom bands in the traditional vein who are very doom:

Warning
Orodruin
Reverend Bizarre ( please do not listen to "Doom over the world" and come back and say it's not doom - find something off "In the rectory of the bizarre reverend)
Las Cruces
Revelation

All of the above destroy any funeral doom, death/doom, sludge, sludgecore or neoclassical gothic industrial folk black metal doom band you can name!

On a different note has anyone heard Iron Hearse or Cambian Dawn. I think they might appeal to both the doom and stoner crowd.

Kyle

06-28-2006, 09:23 AM

On a different note has anyone heard Iron Hearse or Cambian Dawn. I think they might appeal to both the doom and stoner crowd.I just checked out both those bands, pretty good stuff. I see that Iron Hearse are quite local to me over in Swindon, so I might drive down and check out one of their gigs. I've found so much new music in this thread over the last few weeks, it excites me.

Bartender

06-28-2006, 09:37 AM

On a different note has anyone heard Iron Hearse or Cambian Dawn. I think they might appeal to both the doom and stoner crowd.

The River did a split with Cambian Dawn, didn't they? I haven't heard it, but I did check out Cambian Dawn because of it. Yet to buy anything, but they were pretty good as I remember.

Activista anti-MTV

06-28-2006, 07:12 PM

there are so many good bands in this genre...where to start.:smoke:

Activista anti-MTV

06-29-2006, 12:09 AM

For a Good blend of Doom and Stoner Listen to Black Sabbath-Hand of Doom

Love the Melvins, Monster Magnet, Pelican, Kyuss

Jondur

06-29-2006, 04:13 AM

I just checked out both those bands, pretty good stuff. I see that Iron Hearse are quite local to me over in Swindon, so I might drive down and check out one of their gigs. I've found so much new music in this thread over the last few weeks, it excites me.

They're a good live band. We did a gig with them in London a few years back. We'd been soundchecking for about 2 hours struggling with rubbish sound when Iron Hearse turn up 10 minutes before doors open, plug in, play and have a perfect sound! Simply not fair.

Cambian Dawn have also become an excellent band. I can highly recommend their last demo "Wastrel Children of an Insane Universe". Theres tracks on the website and on myspace. Check em out.

Kyle

06-29-2006, 05:56 AM

Hey Jondur, you got a link to some of your muisc?

Werny

06-29-2006, 07:45 AM

Is this calculated to irritate me? Yes you managed to find the non-doom Trouble album (it is however a great album). Find the debut "Psalm 9" or "The Skull" or even "Run to the Light" then tell me it's not doom!

I guess I managed to find the non-doom Witchfinder General album and non-doom Pentagram song too. There was that Count Raven one with the gargoyle on the front...maybe I should've got that.

Hmm I can't imagine that any of those bands you listed would please me more than the ones I already listen to...Skepticism, Esoteric, Tyranny.....no way!

Jondur

06-29-2006, 09:01 AM

I think actually your problem is that you don't know what doom is. I'm sure that Witchfinder General, Trouble, Pentagram etc are a LOT less slow death metal with keyboards than Skepticism or Esoteric! I personally don't care if you prefer the latest release from "Withered candles in the velvet moonlit crimson adjectives" to "Day of Reckoning" or "Death Penalty" but your favourite bands aren't doom. Now go and find a song of the bands I recommended. Now THAT is doom.

Werny

06-29-2006, 09:30 AM

I know what Doom is. People tell me Saint Vitus is a pivotal Doom band, and the song Children Of Doom sounds doomy enough to me. And I have two Candlemass albums which sound appropriately doomish to me.

I just enjoy Funeral and Death/Doom better than Traditional Doom, I don't think it's "proper doom" or whatever. I like it better than Trad because it's not trying to replicate the 70's or Black Sabbath, it's just doing its own thing. I have much more respect for those bands, not the "we love Black Sabbath but we're different because...we're new" bands.

Nevertheless I shall heed your suggestion and download a Reverend Bizarre album. Orodruin are ownage, by the way.

Jondur

06-29-2006, 10:14 AM

Nevertheless I shall heed your suggestion and download a Reverend Bizarre album. Orodruin are ownage, by the way.

I never suggested you DOWNLOAD a Reverend Bizarre album. I think you should download a song and if you like it you can go to a shop and BUY the bloody thing!

i disagree with most of your points. Doom bands are no more just copying Black Sabbath anymore than funeral doom bands are copying Thergothon or doom/death bands are copying My Dying Bride. You can have respect for your influences and share a common sound without being copycats. If we only listened to bands with a completely original sound we'd only have 4 CDs in our collections!

A_Guy

06-29-2006, 12:04 PM

Hey Phototropic, I listened to all of that Bomb the Sun EP, and I loved it. That music kicks some serious ***.

Kyle

06-29-2006, 12:45 PM

Oh yeah I forgot to comment about that, it's really great. Great length for an EP aswell! I'll keep my eyes on these guys.

Werny

06-29-2006, 02:22 PM

I never suggested you DOWNLOAD a Reverend Bizarre album. I think you should download a song and if you like it you can go to a shop and BUY the bloody thing!

i disagree with most of your points. Doom bands are no more just copying Black Sabbath anymore than funeral doom bands are copying Thergothon or doom/death bands are copying My Dying Bride. You can have respect for your influences and share a common sound without being copycats. If we only listened to bands with a completely original sound we'd only have 4 CDs in our collections!

Being a jobless 17 year old with download limit free internet, I download everything. Besides I was shocked and amazed to find a Trouble CD around here, there's no places here that would stock anything like the Reverend.

And to your second argument; NO. Have you even heard Skepticism or Tyranny? Completely different to Thergothon man, I mean the closest Skepticism come to sounding like Thergothon is some of the washy sounding guitar parts on Farmakon. And Tyranny is another completely different case, last time I checked Thergothon didn't drone on for 11 minutes for each song.

I've never heard any death/doom like Esoteric. They're truly bizarre. And I've never heard a death/doom band copy My Dying Bride, in fact I don't think I've heard of any that use keyboards or violins.

They're influenced (maybe not even that) by Thergothon. Trad Doom bands intentionally emulate Black Sabbath. I mean Claw Tower by Orodruin, as awesome as it is, just sounds like Into The Void, right down to the guitar tone. There's lots of bands that sound like another, but this is rather unintentional (good example being the large wave of Neurosis copycats).

Jondur

06-30-2006, 03:15 AM

Being a jobless 17 year old with download limit free internet, I download everything.

No excuse. Get a job if you want to buy a CD - if you're too lazy to get a job then you can't have the things you want. F**** sake man I had two jobs at your age - this meant that I could buy CDs. If I was skint, I didn't go shoplifting!

And to your second argument; NO. Have you even heard Skepticism or Tyranny? Completely different to Thergothon man, I mean the closest Skepticism come to sounding like Thergothon is some of the washy sounding guitar parts on Farmakon.

Dude, that was the point I was trying to make!

And Tyranny is another completely different case, last time I checked Thergothon didn't drone on for 11 minutes for each song.

Oooh! Sounds ace! Where can I get some of this 11 minutes of drone music (oxymoron)??!!

And I've never heard a death/doom band copy My Dying Bride, in fact I don't think I've heard of any that use keyboards or violins.

:confused: Really??? You've never heard a death doom band with keyboards? Are you joking? Maybe your definition of death doom is different to mine? So for example:

November's Doom, The Prophecy, Ataxerie, Decomposed etc Are they what you would call Death/doom?

They're influenced (maybe not even that) by Thergothon. Trad Doom bands intentionally emulate Black Sabbath. I mean Claw Tower by Orodruin, as awesome as it is, just sounds like Into The Void, right down to the guitar tone. There's lots of bands that sound like another, but this is rather unintentional (good example being the large wave of Neurosis copycats).

Right, let's stop here. The only reason I got into this with you is comments like "Are there any Trad doom bands that actually play doom" when the answer is yes, they all play doom, Thergothon etc don't!

Incidentily, have a listen to Epicurian Mass by Orodruin - much thicker production than Clawtower (which was a demo), so I would guess not an intentional guitar tone at all.

Phototropic

06-30-2006, 03:50 AM

Hey Phototropic, I listened to all of that Bomb the Sun EP, and I loved it. That music kicks some serious ***.

Oh yeah I forgot to comment about that, it's really great. Great length for an EP aswell! I'll keep my eyes on these guys.

Glad you both liked

I'm not actually sure if its an EP or an album, they keep a low profile and don't say much

:smoke:

Apocalyptic Raids

06-30-2006, 03:51 AM

So I checked out In The Rectory Of The Bizarre Reverend. Awesome stuff.

I think I need to investigate more into Orodruin.

Werny

06-30-2006, 05:31 AM

No excuse. Get a job if you want to buy a CD - if you're too lazy to get a job then you can't have the things you want. F**** sake man I had two jobs at your age - this meant that I could buy CDs. If I was skint, I didn't go shoplifting!

That's a moral argument right there, not a music one, so I'll agree to disagree so we're not wasting time.

Dude, that was the point I was trying to make!

What...you said they all copycat Thergothon. That confused me!

Oooh! Sounds ace! Where can I get some of this 11 minutes of drone music (oxymoron)??!!

Fine. 11 minutes of ambience. 11 minutes of drone. I don't care whether it's music or not, I enjoy the mood and atmosphere of it.

:confused: Really??? You've never heard a death doom band with keyboards? Are you joking? Maybe your definition of death doom is different to mine? So for example:

November's Doom, The Prophecy, Ataxerie, Decomposed etc Are they what you would call Death/doom?

Ok you got me there, out of those bands the only one I've heard is November's Doom and perhaps I need to listen to them again. I remember their debut, yes, has female vocals but I don't remember any keyboards or violins.

Right, let's stop here. The only reason I got into this with you is comments like "Are there any Trad doom bands that actually play doom" when the answer is yes, they all play doom, Thergothon etc don't!

I love being an elitist so I'm going to continue! Muahahahaha. They play a different style of doom, but they're still doom, buddy. Well... I'll let you get away with not calling them doom, but calling them slow death metal is ridiculous. You sound like one of those guys that goes "omg I can't understand what they're saying so they're untalented" or "oh they're growling, that means it's death metal, that means it's stupid".

Incidentily, have a listen to Epicurian Mass by Orodruin - much thicker production than Clawtower (which was a demo), so I would guess not an intentional guitar tone at all.

My mistake. I wasn't complaining about the tone sounding like Iommi, I don't care about tone, they can strive for his tone all they want. It's the riff itself damn you.

In other news, Dopesmoker by Sleep is... awesome. Very hypnotising.

the2stranger

06-30-2006, 05:37 AM

Dopesmoker \m/

Jondur

06-30-2006, 06:38 AM

That's a moral argument right there, not a music one, so I'll agree to disagree so we're not wasting time.

Trying to safeguard the future of the music I love is not wasting time. The ability of the bands you are stealing from to make music in the future is directly linked to the sales of their records. You're not stealing from millionaires like Metallica here, you're proposing to take something from three guys who all have jobs with which to support their families etc - if they want to play gigs etc they have to be able to sell enough records to justify it.

What...you said they all copycat Thergothon. That confused me!

I was actually trying to draw a parallel between you saying all doom bands are trying to copy Sabbath.

I love being an elitist so I'm going to continue! Muahahahaha.

OK but I'm away on business from tomorrow so we'll have to wrap it up today.

.... calling them slow death metal is ridiculous.

I hear a lot more similarity between [insert funeral doom or doom/death band name here] and say Autopsy than I do with [insert funeral doom or doom/death band name here] and the bands that started doom ie Pentagram, The Obsessed, St Vitus etc. Their music is built on ultra-heavy downtuned guitars and growled vocals - with the exception of the speed how is that not death metal? Bearing in mind that there are death metal bands that have experimented with atmospherics etc like Demigod for example.

Slow does not equal doom. A direct lineage from Sabbath through Pentagram then Vitus and Trouble makes you doom!

You sound like one of those guys that goes "omg I can't understand what they're saying so they're untalented" or "oh they're growling, that means it's death metal, that means it's stupid".

I'm currently listening to Master. After that I'll probably stick some Repulsion on. I like my death, death and my doom, doom!

Jondur

06-30-2006, 06:50 AM

To whoever asked for my music:

http://www.soundclick.com/theriver (a track with me playing)
www.myspace.com/doomriver (a track after I'd left)

http://www.unsilence.co.uk/mp3/unsilenceoceans.mp3 (my old, old band)
http://www.unsilence.co.uk/mp3/Unsilencegallery.mp3 (older stuf from my old old band)

Werny

06-30-2006, 08:19 AM

Trying to safeguard the future of the music I love is not wasting time. The ability of the bands you are stealing from to make music in the future is directly linked to the sales of their records. You're not stealing from millionaires like Metallica here, you're proposing to take something from three guys who all have jobs with which to support their families etc - if they want to play gigs etc they have to be able to sell enough records to justify it.

If I can't buy their records (they're not available around here, I checked) then how am I to support them? I respect that you want me to support them, and I wish I could, but I really can't until I get a credit card, and I don't want to wait weeks, even months, to get a CD from a band just so you can show me what true doom is. So you're wasting time because you're not going to convince me to buy CDs.

I was actually trying to draw a parallel between you saying all doom bands are trying to copy Sabbath.

Ah, that you did.

OK but I'm away on business from tomorrow so we'll have to wrap it up today.

I've made all the points I can make so yes, let's consider it wrapped. One more thing though...

I hear a lot more similarity between [insert funeral doom or doom/death band name here] and say Autopsy than I do with [insert funeral doom or doom/death band name here] and the bands that started doom ie Pentagram, The Obsessed, St Vitus etc. Their music is built on ultra-heavy downtuned guitars and growled vocals - with the exception of the speed how is that not death metal? Bearing in mind that there are death metal bands that have experimented with atmospherics etc like Demigod for example.

Slow does not equal doom. A direct lineage from Sabbath through Pentagram then Vitus and Trouble makes you doom!

I'm currently listening to Master. After that I'll probably stick some Repulsion on. I like my death, death and my doom, doom!

Fair enough man, they do sound more death than doom, but the aesthetics and everything are completely different to death. I mean, even disEMBOWELMENT who have blastbeats quite often are clearly not just death with the occasional slow part. Lots of moaning and haunting clean guitar.

Mmmm death...I like my death brutal and my doom depressive...but both are groovy and that's all that counts.

Werny

06-30-2006, 08:31 AM

Dopesmoker \m/

I can always rely on you to agree with me on these things. Haha. Have you heard of Aarni? It's like Avant-Garde Doom, it's quite psychedelic.

the2stranger

06-30-2006, 09:30 AM

I can always rely on you to agree with me on these things. Haha. Have you heard of Aarni? It's like Avant-Garde Doom, it's quite psychedelic.
Avant-garde Doom?
This sounds too good to be true.
I will look them up and see if I can download some stuff.
thbnks for the recommendation.

also: Thanks to who uploaded the Bomb The Sun, it's good stuff I'm listening to the second track now.

Werny

06-30-2006, 09:41 AM

Avant-garde Doom?
This sounds too good to be true.
I will look them up and see if I can download some stuff.
thbnks for the recommendation.

Damn right it's too good to be true. I've waited way too long for a band to do what they've done. It's essentially doom but there's a lot of folk and psychedelia influences in there.

the2stranger

06-30-2006, 09:50 AM

Cool, my distro stocks Bathos.
:cool:
The cover art is damn psychedelic.

Cocaine

06-30-2006, 06:17 PM

Werny

07-01-2006, 05:34 AM

If anyone's into really really heavy, intense and gruesome Doom, you should check out the new Wormphlegm release, I just got it and well, they certainly live up to the "Torture Doom" label, this makes me feel like I'm in a dungeon or some****.

Muahahahaha! \m/

...actually I haven't heard them. I tried downloading it the other night and it cut out! Useless dial-up. I've never heard a description of their music other than that they're "torture doom"...could you help me there?

ATM

07-02-2006, 11:48 AM

I just got a Weedeater album, called 16 tons. Anyone heard of this band? They are ****ing awesome.

Werny

07-03-2006, 06:24 AM

Cool, my distro stocks Bathos.
:cool:
The cover art is damn psychedelic.

Have you seen their website? Sweet trip there.

Lucky you, I can't get any death/doom (besides MDB) or funeral around here. Sob.

Werny

07-08-2006, 06:51 AM

I got Cathedral's newie. Maybe it'll grow on me, but right now it's not very exciting at all. Corpsecycle and the riff that ends The Garden are the only bits of it that really do anything for me.

Activista anti-MTV

07-09-2006, 12:39 AM

The wrath of Jondur is scaring me away...

3rdplanet

07-09-2006, 07:25 AM

I recently got Turning It Down Since 2001 by Noxagt and it is forking awesome.

Activista anti-MTV

07-12-2006, 08:38 PM

Hey how did two completely different genres get smushed together in one thread?

Doom Shmoom, I am gonna listen to orange Goblin and roll a cheap one.

rhcp pman

07-12-2006, 08:53 PM

I've been listening to a hell of a lot of doom lately, and I'm finding that it's a great genre. My latest find is Starchild, a pretty good band.

I have a strong feeling that doom metal is going to become my favourite genre.

I've also been listening to:
Candlemass, Cathedral, Electric Wizard, Confessor, My Dying Bride, November's Doom, Paradise Lost, Reverend Bizarre, Orodruin, Spirit Caravan, Warning, Count Raven, Goatsnake, Katatonia and Lacrimas Profundere.

I'm really keen to listen to some Sunn O))) and Boris, so I would be grateful if someone could upload any of that (apart from the Earth split). Also, some Thergothon would be good if anyone has any. I do have some music for trade (http://www.recordnerd.com/lists/seltzer), and I have more than what is on the list.

A_Guy

07-12-2006, 09:51 PM

Hey how did two completely different genres get smushed together in one thread?

Doom Shmoom, I am gonna listen to orange Goblin and roll a cheap one.
Ya, stoner and doom are pretty distinct from each other. I can see how they would get lumped together by someone who didn't know the genres, but by a fan...

Activista anti-MTV

07-13-2006, 12:08 AM

It's annoying the stoner rockers have either been intimidated or lost interest (:smoke: )

Apocalyptic Raids

07-13-2006, 12:46 AM

The Negation

07-13-2006, 05:46 AM

You guys might like Gallhammer, theyre signed to Peaceville if i remember correctly.
Japanese, all girl doom metal.

Guitar101

07-13-2006, 06:19 AM

KMK is awesome. Kotton Mouth Kings

Werny

07-13-2006, 06:24 AM

Aren't Gallhammer crust, though? And yes it was Peaceville.

I found an epic doom band that I actually love. Lamented Souls! Simen Hestnaes may be a fool, but he's my favourite singer and Lamented Souls really shows why. Awesome riffs and atmosphere with everything doused in reverb!

The Negation

07-13-2006, 06:28 AM

I thought they were predominantly doom...I could be wrong.

rhcp pman

07-14-2006, 06:23 AM

Anyone like Starchild? I've been listening to their S/T, and it's quite spacey and doomy, but also bluesy. I think it's a pretty good effort.

I've been listening to Solstice lately as well.

AA-12

07-14-2006, 06:30 AM

Skepticism - Aeothe Kaear = Best doom album i've heard in a long time. Amazing.

The Negation

07-14-2006, 11:28 AM

So ive just heard the Moss/Wolfmangler split-Protected by the Ejaculation of Wolves [lovely] and Ive got to say this isnt half bad. If youre a fan of blackened doom, this albums cracking.

the2stranger

07-15-2006, 09:57 AM

Werny (and other fuenral doom fans \m/:
Have you heard of Comatose Vigil?
It's pretty awesome stuff. very dark and brooding, the vocals are great.
they are or: low as **** or distorted and very eery.

good stuff.

Apocalyptic Raids

07-15-2006, 10:41 AM

I've been listening to some Thergothon lately. It' sopretty good though I prefer Traditiopnal stuff.

sorry 've had a bit to drink. I'm trying to type proper though.

the2stranger

07-15-2006, 10:44 AM

I've been listening to some Thergothon lately. It' sopretty good though I prefer Traditiopnal stuff.

sorry 've had a bit to drink. I'm trying to type proper though.
What time is it there?
It's 6:45 in the evening and I'm drinking my first beer of the evening, cheers :chug:

Thergothon is awesome, I like the extreme doom stuff better than the traditional.

np: Draconian -The Cry Of Silence. \m/

Apocalyptic Raids

07-15-2006, 10:45 AM

It's about 2:45 am/

I just got home.

ATM

07-15-2006, 10:49 AM

I just picked up a bunch of good albums. Got Electric Wizard's s/t, Earth - Earth2, and a Sleep album that I cant remember the name but it is ****ing awesome.

I want to hear some Spirit Caravan.

the2stranger

07-15-2006, 10:54 AM

great buy Arrestthisman! :D
Sleep \m/

Apocalyptic Raids

07-15-2006, 10:55 AM

speaking of sleep im should go to bed soon since is late here.

the2stranger

07-15-2006, 10:56 AM

:lol:

Sleep well my aussie mate!

Apocalyptic Raids

07-15-2006, 10:57 AM

I will now because you said that Dutchie mate,.

ATM

07-15-2006, 05:16 PM

So the Sleep album I got is called Volume 2, and its awesome. I need to hear more from them.

AA-12

07-15-2006, 07:12 PM

Oh man, everyone needs to go check out Grivf. They are the best doom band i've ever heard. So dark and just sickening sounding it's not even funny.

dfcslings

07-15-2006, 08:27 PM

Oh man, everyone needs to go check out Grivf. They are the best doom band i've ever heard. So dark and just sickening sounding it's not even funny.

are they like nortt?

anyone like acid king?

stoner doom with female vocals :)

rhcp pman

07-16-2006, 01:38 AM

What I've been digging lately is Dolorian's 1999 album, When All the Laughter Has Gone. It's blackened doom and it's unbelievably good.

I'm sure someone here must have heard Starchild before... surely?

At the rate I'm going through doom metal, I will have heard every doom metal band in a couple of months :p. I'm at about 25 GB and growing.

I've been listening to some Thergothon lately. It' sopretty good though I prefer Traditiopnal stuff.

sorry 've had a bit to drink. I'm trying to type proper though.
I've got about 4 out of 6 songs from Thergothon's one album - and I agree, it is rather good. I think it could do with some better production, but that's open to opinion.

I just picked up a bunch of good albums. Got Electric Wizard's s/t, Earth - Earth2, and a Sleep album that I cant remember the name but it is ****ing awesome.

I want to hear some Spirit Caravan.
Electric Wizard is some good stuff. For Spirit Caravan, get Jug Fulla Sun - it's a great album which I've been listening to a bit lately.

Werny

07-17-2006, 06:05 AM

Skepticism - Aeothe Kaear = Best doom album i've heard in a long time. Amazing.

Of course man, they're the best doom band. I haven't got that though. I got Ethere the other day, really great atmosphere and absolutely horrifying rendition of The March and the Stream (I can see why people name it the most depressing song ever).

I love how with Skepticism you get the variation. There's the big, grandiose and powerful stuff done in the Stormcrowfleet era, the funeral march-like stuff they did in the Lead & Aether period (which should be banned, there's no happy moments in the music, some notes are painful) and the trippy, scary stuff done in the Farmakon era. I'm eager to see what they do now.

Werny (and other fuenral doom fans \m/:
Have you heard of Comatose Vigil?
It's pretty awesome stuff. very dark and brooding, the vocals are great.
they are or: low as **** or distorted and very eery.

good stuff.

Name rings a bell, can't say I've heard them though. I need heaps more Funeral. Wormphlegm, Comatose Vigil, Catacombs, Monolithe... mmmm.

AA-12

07-17-2006, 06:30 AM

are they like nortt?

I'm not sure. They are amazing though. The atmosphere is so intense.

rippa32

07-17-2006, 06:54 AM

Ive only listened to a bit of Doom Metal through the odd downloaded track (mainly pentagram) I always knew I would like it because I am a huge Black Sabbath fan. And today I finally bought a Doom album, Turn To Stone by Pentagram, I havnt listened to it yet though. And even though I am not a big fan now I can see myself being one in the near future, does anybody have any recommendations for other similair bands?

AA-12

07-17-2006, 06:55 AM

I suggest buying Electric Wizard - Dopethrone.

Apocalyptic Raids

07-17-2006, 06:58 AM