Any other Stoner/Doom metal fans?

[shamed-angel]

erm...you could check out http://www.bumsnogger.co.uk/ they really are a wicked band. once you've got past the hilarity of their name they're wicked.

Kerrang! Review of Bum the Missing 2005 Tour split 7" with Among the Missing
Two great examples of how a combination of strong booze and a bad attitude can result in gloriously loud and filthy music. Bumsnogger may have an appalling name, but their twisted sludge is guaranteed to send you creaming towards the off-licence. Among The Missing are altogether darker and more unhinged, like a council estate Black Flag whacked out on 'ludes. Doom-laden fun for all the family. Catch them on the 'Bum The Missing' tour now.

www.myspace.com/bumsnogger is the only thing I can find online.

Check them out.

[Confessed2005]

I don't know a huge lot about doom metal. Yet I love My Dying Bride and November's Doom. This Bumsnogger band sound pretty cool despite the comic genius of their name.

[Werny]

I don't know a huge lot about doom metal. Yet I love My Dying Bride and November's Doom. This Bumsnogger band sound pretty cool despite the comic genius of their name.

When I listen to Doom, I don't want all of this gloomy "make me bleed" nonsense which My Dying Bride have gotten caught up in as of late; I want monolithic riffs that make me stand back, fall to the floor and worship the God of downtuned guitars. Novembers Doom do just that. I have all of their albums with the exception of their newest, and although I've only listened to a few songs from the first one, I love them. They floor me everytime.

[Poofy 666]

When I listen to Doom, I don't want all of this gloomy "make me bleed" nonsense which My Dying Bride have gotten caught up in as of late; I want monolithic riffs that make me stand back, fall to the floor and worship the God of downtuned guitars. Novembers Doom do just that. I have all of their albums with the exception of their newest, and although I've only listened to a few songs from the first one, I love them. They floor me everytime.
"Not the Strong" pwns

[Confessed2005]

I think 'Autumn Reflection' is amazing. I really want to buy "The Pale Haunt Departure" but i can't actually find it anywhere which is rather annoying.

[Werny]

"Not the Strong" pwns

The music is definitely mindblowing, but the vocals and lyrics nearly put me right off. Is it a different vocalist? If so, he's certainly lost his growl (or he sneezed all the mucus out of his throat).

"If only my mother knew the real me" get out of here! If they're gonna get all doom 'n' gloom they may as well do it PROPERLY. But I still say the music, however fast and undoomish, is awesome.

[IAJP]

I'm bumping this thread, 'cause Cathedral are probbably going to become my favourite band.

[Poofy 666]

Just found "Llenandose de Gusanos" by Corrupted on eBay! Been looking for that album for ages.

[repcak]

i want to know more doom bands... can you give me some recommendations?

bands i love!
- anathema (serenades, the silent enigma, eternity)
- my dying bride (turn loose to swans)
- katatonia (brave murder day)

how you see i like the doom-death-metal genre a lot... any tips?

[Freezing Moon]

Doom Death; Disembowelment, Thorr's Hammer, Burning Witch

I don't know a lot of it but definetly check out Disembowelment. I prefer Epic/Traditional.

[Jondur]

Reverend Bizarre is the only doom metal I've heard and I like it. And early Katatonia. Recommend some more.

Bands like Reverend Bizarre:

St Vitus
Pentagram
The Obsessed
Orodruin
The Gates of Slumber

Bands like Katatonia - well they ripped all of their early sound off Paradise Lost "Gothic" so maybe check that out.

[Stoic]

Jondur (or anyone who can help me)! Doomshine have recently grabbed my attention and I'm thinking of getting their full length album. Are you familiar with them and if yes what can you tell me?

[Cocaine]

I'm listening to a lot of Bongzilla and Electric Wizard lately. I dont smoke pot, but they make me wish I did, haha.

[Phototropic]

I'm listening to a lot of Bongzilla and Electric Wizard lately. I dont smoke pot, but they make me wish I did, haha.

Yeah dude, I feel like that with Kyuss, I haven't got round to trying it yet

Electric Wizard
Kyuss
Melvins

Top 3 heavy bands of my month ;)

[Benzum]

Can someone give me a good description of "Stoner / Doom Metal"

[Cocaine]

Can someone give me a good description of "Stoner / Doom Metal"

I dont know if this is "good" or not, but I'll give it a shot.
It's basically slower metal, which is typically very bottom heavy and has a lot of groove to it.

Here's teh wikipedia definitions:

Doom metal is a form of heavy metal that emerged as a recognised subgenre in the mid-1980s. It is slow and heavy and intended to evoke an atmosphere of darkness, despair and melancholy. It is very strongly influenced by the early work of Black Sabbath, and a number of early Black Sabbath tracks, such as "Black Sabbath", are often considered embryonic or prototypical doom metal songs.

Stoner metal is best known by its commonly stripped down production, use of psychedelic guitar effects, and deep 1970s-rock influence from groups like Black Sabbath.

[Benzum]

Ok, cool, erm.

I like Cult of Luna (or at least some of their songs) ,would they be classed as Doom Metal?

[Kyle]

I know I like some Stoner Metal, but am never sure on a few bands..

I'm seeing Clutch/Corrosion of Conformity on the 29th....is that Stoner/Doom...or neither?

[repcak]

whats about queens of the stone age? stoner rock?

[Cocaine]

Ok, cool, erm.

I like Cult of Luna (or at least some of their songs) ,would they be classed as Doom Metal?

I think they're at least bordering on it.

I know I like some Stoner Metal, but am never sure on a few bands..

I'm seeing Clutch/Corrosion of Conformity on the 29th....is that Stoner/Doom...or neither?

Clutch, well from the one album I have, I'd probably say no..but I'm not sure about CoC

whats about queens of the stone age? stoner rock?

I haven't heard much of them, but Kyuss are, and some of the members of Kyuss went on to form QOTSA

[Vortigon]

I know I like some Stoner Metal, but am never sure on a few bands..

I'm seeing Clutch/Corrosion of Conformity on the 29th....is that Stoner/Doom...or neither?
I'd say CoC was classed as Stoner Metal (and risk a lynching from doomsters for using the phrase). Either way they're very good.

[A_Guy]

whats about queens of the stone age? stoner rock?

No, not really. Their first album (with three Kyuss members) was hard, but not stoner. Now, their more, alternative, rock, although its not always right to catogorize them in a single genre. Definately not stoner/doom

[Cravinov13]

I've been listening to a lot of Death Doom Metal like old Katatonia and November's Doom.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Isis, Neurosis, Earlier Pelican, and The Melvins(?).

I love I love Celestial by Isis, but I can see why people believe Panopticon is the best. I just love sludgy stuff.

[Poofy 666]

I'd say CoC was classed as Stoner Metal (and risk a lynching from doomsters for using the phrase). Either way they're very good.
I always considered them more Crossover/Thrashy but w/e

[Bartender]

They change quite a bit.

[Jondur]

Jondur (or anyone who can help me)! Doomshine have recently grabbed my attention and I'm thinking of getting their full length album. Are you familiar with them and if yes what can you tell me?

I answered in the death heads thread but here it is again.

Doomshine are epic doom along the lines of Solitude Aeturnus. They are quite emotional compared to the likes of Solitude Aeturnus and Solstice. I must say I don't rate them that highly - I'd recommend the likes of Solstice, SA, While Heaven Wept, Isole or Scald (RUS) instead.

[Stoic]

I answered in the death heads thread but here it is again.

Doomshine are epic doom along the lines of Solitude Aeturnus. They are quite emotional compared to the likes of Solitude Aeturnus and Solstice. I must say I don't rate them that highly - I'd recommend the likes of Solstice, SA, While Heaven Wept, Isole or Scald (RUS) instead.

and I replied in Death Heads as well ;)

heh, I havent heard of these bands, thank you, your recommendations rule :D

[Werny]

Yeah dude, I feel like that with Kyuss, I haven't got round to trying it yet

Electric Wizard
Kyuss
Melvins

Top 3 heavy bands of my month ;)

I've been loving Electric Wizard and Melvins this month too. I haven't got around to getting any Kyuss yet but the tracks I've heard are killer (their vocalist is one of the best!).

I've been trying to get some Bongzilla, the guitar tone is absolutely monolithic.

[Jondur]

Can't believe I haven't mentioned BLOODFARMERS in this thread yet! Well that's rectified that omission - check out their eponymous album.

[Stoic]

/notes down Bloodfarmers...

hmm...I listened to some random Electric Wizard songs and really liked them. What is the general attitude towards them in the stoner world and which album is supposed to be their best?

EDIT

Bloodfarmers are not listed in MA, what genre exactly are they?

[Jondur]

http://metal-archives.com/band.php?id=5441&PHPSESSID=3f4f669a5de9135734f3b73eec58980e

Only Dopethrone by Electric Wizard is worth hearing

[Stoic]

^Downloaded a couple of songs but I find the effect used on vocals quite irritating :(

What do you think of Grand Magus and Sleep?

[Dark_Hero]

I'm not sure if I posted my favorite stoner/doom bands yet, but here they are.

High on Fire, Bongzilla, Soilent Green, Black Sabbath, Saint Vitus, Clutch, Acid Bath, Blessing the Hogs, Zeke, Sleep, Electric Wizard, Melvins, Neurosis, Thrones, Buried at Sea, Isis, Reverend Bizarre, Sunn 0))), Khanate, Coffins, Eyehategod, Fistula, Jesu, YOB, Esoteric, etc.

[Cocaine]

I'm not sure if I posted my favorite stoner/doom bands yet, but here they are.

High on Fire, Bongzilla, Soilent Green, Black Sabbath, Saint Vitus, Clutch, Acid Bath, Blessing the Hogs, Zeke, Sleep, Electric Wizard, Melvins, Neurosis, Thrones, Buried at Sea, Isis, Reverend Bizarre, Sunn 0))), Khanate, Coffins, etc.
Zeke is about as far from Doom as you can get.

[Vortigon]

http://metal-archives.com/band.php?id=5441&PHPSESSID=3f4f669a5de9135734f3b73eec58980e

Only Dopethrone by Electric Wizard is worth hearing
Lies, Electric Wizard and Come My Fanatics are both great. We Live is decent.

On a side note, I finally heard The River today, killer stuff, respect to you, Jon.

[A_Guy]

Only Dopethrone by Electric Wizard is worth hearing
I really enjoy Supercoven, but I haven't heard Dopethrone, so I don't know how they compare.

[Dark_Hero]

Zeke is about as far from Doom as you can get.
It's called stoner metal. I also forgot to mention Dystopia.

[Werny]

Only Dopethrone by Electric Wizard is worth hearing

He lies! Well not like I've got the other albums or anything, but the songs I've heard are awesome. A lot of people think Come My Fanatics... or We Live are better than Dopethrone.

Oh and to the fellow that said the vocal effect is annoying, Dopethrone and We Live are the only ones with that effect. He sounds so much worse with the un-distorted vocals! I think the effect adds to the character of Dopethrone but hey, whatever blows your whistle.

/pimps his review of Dopethrone on SputnikMusic

EDIT: Ok, maybe not. I don't think I'll be writing any more reviews/band profiles from now on.

[UpperDecker]

Sorry for asking this but what exactly is doom metal? what are the characteristics of it?

[tehnick]

Music that has characteristics of something.......doom-like.

/doesn't know.

[Stoic]

/pimps his review of Dopethrone on SputnikMusic


weird, I didnt see any electric wizard on sputnik :confused:

[Jondur]

http://www.eternalsolitude.com/pages/excerpts/sa_sightless_demo.mp3

New Solitude Aeturnus demo. Sounds ace.

[Stoic]

http://www.eternalsolitude.com/pages/excerpts/sa_sightless_demo.mp3

New Solitude Aeturnus demo. Sounds ace.

you didnt tell me your opinion about Grand Magus and Sleep Mister :mad:

:p

[Jondur]

^Downloaded a couple of songs but I find the effect used on vocals quite irritating :(

Do you mean Electric Wizard or Blood farmers? I never said Dopethrone was good! I don't rate EW at all.

What do you think of Grand Magus and Sleep?

Never heard either. I tend to ignore anything that might even stray into stoner territory!

[Stoic]

Do you mean Electric Wizard or Blood farmers? I never said Dopethrone was good! I don't rate EW at all.



Never heard either. I tend to ignore anything that might even stray into stoner territory!

:lol: alright, alright! Grand Magus however, are not stoner ;)

[Bartender]

Grand Magus are a lot of fun, from what I've heard. Been meaning to get an album for some time now.

Sorry for asking this but what exactly is doom metal? what are the characteristics of it?

This has been explained a few times throughout the thread - quite recently and frequently, I think - so you could find out what it is (along with a whole load of recommendations) by just reading through.

[munky_magik]

****EUROPEAN TOUR*****

!!!!DOOMED TRINITY!!!!!

Yes, Grand Magus will embark on a full European tour together with Doom legends CATHEDRAL and ELECTRIC WIZARD in February 2006. See dates below.

FEBRUARY 2006
THU 02 HOLLAND Eindhoven Efenaar
FRI 03 HOLLAND Haarlem Patronaat
SAT 04 HOLLAND Rotterdam Nighttown
SUN 05 HOLLAND Utrecht Helling
MON 06 GERMANY Berlin Knaack
THU 09 FINLAND Helsinki Tavastia
SAT 11 SWEDEN Stockholm The Shrine
SUN 12 SWEDEN Gothenburg Sticky Fingers
MON 13 GERMANY Hamburg Molotow
TUE 14 GERMANY Munich Backstage
WED 15 AUSTRIA Vienna Arena
THU 16 SWITZERLAND Pratteln Z7
FRI 17 ITALY Milan Transilvania Live
SAT 18 ITALY Sesto Fiorentino Zero Circus
MON 20 GERMANY Köln Underground
TUE 21 GERMANY Bochum Matrix
THU 23 FRANCE Strasbourg La Laiterie
FRI 24 FRANCE ParisLe Noveau Casino
SAT 25 ENGLAND Brighton Concorde 2
SUN 26 ENGLAND Manchester Academy 3

MARCH 2006
FRI 03 ENGLAND London Islington Academy
SAT 04 ENGLAND Nottingham Rock City

:)

[repcak]

****EUROPEAN TOUR*****

!!!!DOOMED TRINITY!!!!!

Yes, Grand Magus will embark on a full European tour together with Doom legends CATHEDRAL and ELECTRIC WIZARD in February 2006. See dates below.

FEBRUARY 2006
THU 02 HOLLAND Eindhoven Efenaar
FRI 03 HOLLAND Haarlem Patronaat
SAT 04 HOLLAND Rotterdam Nighttown
SUN 05 HOLLAND Utrecht Helling
MON 06 GERMANY Berlin Knaack
THU 09 FINLAND Helsinki Tavastia
SAT 11 SWEDEN Stockholm The Shrine
SUN 12 SWEDEN Gothenburg Sticky Fingers
MON 13 GERMANY Hamburg Molotow
TUE 14 GERMANY Munich Backstage
WED 15 AUSTRIA Vienna Arena
THU 16 SWITZERLAND Pratteln Z7
FRI 17 ITALY Milan Transilvania Live
SAT 18 ITALY Sesto Fiorentino Zero Circus
MON 20 GERMANY Köln Underground
TUE 21 GERMANY Bochum Matrix
THU 23 FRANCE Strasbourg La Laiterie
FRI 24 FRANCE ParisLe Noveau Casino
SAT 25 ENGLAND Brighton Concorde 2
SUN 26 ENGLAND Manchester Academy 3

MARCH 2006
FRI 03 ENGLAND London Islington Academy
SAT 04 ENGLAND Nottingham Rock City

:)

hm... i don't have anything by Cathedral or Electric Wizard... hm... are they doom-death or only doom? i prefer doom-death to be serious.....:rolleyes:

[Stoic]

they're doom (stoner)

[Vortigon]

Yeah, anybody with sense already knows about, and is going to that tour.

[A_Guy]

Ok, my friend was telling me that the hidden track on Kyuss' ...And The Circus Leaves Town is dedicated to Kurt Cobain, what's the name of it and lyrics? I've listened to it, I just don't know what it's called.

[Jondur]

Not been any mention of YOB in here. Any thoughts? Not really my cup of tea but I'll admit as far as extremely nasty slow metal goes - it doesn't get much more nasty or slow!

[Werny]

weird, I didnt see any electric wizard on sputnik :confused:

I got carried away with my review and band profile so they deleted them.

Well that's what I think anyway. I don't know, I just went there and it was gone.

I missed out on seeing Electric Wizard and Pod People, now I find EW are playing with Cathedral and Grand Magus over in Europe. God dammit.

Oh... I got Bongzilla's Amerijuanican. It's more on the fuzzed-out, 70's rock style but hey, that's what makes it so darn awesome. Heck, on Weedy Woman the drummer does one of those fast beats that no one's done since the early 70's (...I think). It's great, I'm tempted to review it.

[Bartender]

Not been any mention of YOB in here. Any thoughts? Not really my cup of tea but I'll admit as far as extremely nasty slow metal goes - it doesn't get much more nasty or slow!

They're okay. By which I mean, I've got The Illusion of Motion, and it's okay. Generally though I prefer something with a good, solid riff.

EDIT: Actually, listening to it again, I like it more than I thought I did. Still nothing really better than just "good", though.

[A_Guy]

I got carried away with my review and band profile so they deleted them.

Well that's what I think anyway. I don't know, I just went there and it was gone.

There was a big server crash and a bunch of stuff got deleted.

[Jondur]

They're okay. By which I mean, I've got The Illusion of Motion, and it's okay. Generally though I prefer something with a good, solid riff.

EDIT: Actually, listening to it again, I like it more than I thought I did. Still nothing really better than just "good", though.

Aye, that's the one I've got. I was just listening to "Exorcism of the Host" from that album and I was struck by what a great riff it's got. I just wish there was another one to go with it!

Good but too monotonous.

Did none of you see that thread about Pentagram? Can I not rely on anyone to keep the doom going while I'm away?!

[Bartender]

Creozoth. A side-project of some members of Candelmass, though supposedly closer to just traditional heavy metal than doom, and apparently quite good despite the silly name.

So, anyone know anything about them?

[Jondur]

I heard Lars is doing a side project. Can't tell you any more I'm afraid - I guess all we know for sure is that the solos will be good!

I sent you an email btw... did you get it?

[Bartender]

I hadn't checked my inbox for a couple of days, so I hadn't noticed, but I have got it, yeah. Thanks.

[Werny]

There was a big server crash and a bunch of stuff got deleted.

Oh. Silly old me and my paranoia.

...Aren't Creozoth supposed to be power metal?

Speaking of the fellows from Candlemass, I got their self-titled release. There's some quality riffage right there. Too bad the lyrics are laughably cheesy, the vocals are horrid (I've never been a fan of Messiah), the drumming is boring and the riffs occasionally get repetitive. Still a decent album, somehow.

[Bartender]

...Aren't Creozoth supposed to be power metal?

I don't know, only read the one review. I suppose the reviewer could have been an idiot.

[guitarded_chuck]

So Pelican is pretty much amazing. I've been into instrumental rock of all different kinds lately, and I'm willing to say Pelican is my favorite. I could listen to The Fire In Our Throats Will Beckon The Thaw all day long.

[Werny]

I don't know, only read the one review. I suppose the reviewer could have been an idiot.

Well an ad for them in Metal Maniacs said "all new power metal from Sweden!" so yeah.

I discovered quite a cool band with a stoner vibe to them; SIGH! I've heard Pale Monument and the singing and keyboards sound straight out of the 60's, with a pretty heavy metal riff going behind them.

I also got* a few more Electric Wizard albums. Chrono.Naut is awesome, if not short. Come My Fanatics... is a bit... thin? Still trippy and heavy, but it ain't got nothin' on Dopethrone. Let Us Prey gets so much flack for being so different from Dopethrone, I for one think it's the spookiest, doomiest and trippiest thing I've ever heard. ...A Chosen Few starts off with a riff of pure evil. And I love the drum sound, really heavy (I hate the soft *tap* that they call a "snare" on Come My Fanatics...)! I might even go on to love it more than Dopethrone.

*downloaded

[Jondur]

...Aren't Creozoth supposed to be power metal?


No. They're supposed to be heavy metal. Straight up heavy metal. The old way.

Speaking of the fellows from Candlemass, I got their self-titled release. There's some quality riffage right there.

Agree so far.

Too bad the lyrics are laughably cheesy

I'd say some of them are a bit odd - certainly nothing up to the lyrical genius of Samarithan or At the Gallows End.

the vocals are horrid (I've never been a fan of Messiah)

The vocals are superb. Messiah's best performance with Candlemass. With the exception of Rob Lowe, Messiah is the best doom metal vocalist.

the drumming is boring

Look, I'm a drummer and I don't have a problem with the drums - they're tight and powerful. What do you expect in a doom metal band? Inverted paradiddles on two kick drums? gravity blasts? You like Electric Wizard and I could play most of their stuff with one hand.

and the riffs occasionally get repetitive.

Again an odd statement from someone who likes EW.

In short Candlemass are ace.

On another note: I've suggested various bands in here and I'm interested to see if anyone has checked them out. So who has heard:

Thee Plague of Gentlemen
The Gates of Slumber
Solstice
Solitude Aeturnus
Orodruin
Warning

[Bartender]

I've heard bits and pieces of Solitude Aeturnus and Thee Plague of Gentlemen, but not enough. I've been meaning to buy something by Solitude ever since I heard Spiral Descent, from you. That song still gets regular play.

All the others are stuff I have in my mind, that I'd probably buy if I found an album lying around somewhere, but for the moment are still part of the big pile of bands I'm forever intending to check out.


I discovered quite a cool band with a stoner vibe to them; SIGH! I've heard Pale Monument and the singing and keyboards sound straight out of the 60's, with a pretty heavy metal riff going behind them.

The Japanese band?

[3rdplanet]

My girlfriend got me Salvation by Cult of Luna for valentines day tomorrow, should I be looking forward to some top notch Doomy metal stuff? I've heard some stuff from The Beyond and liked it.

Need to get some more Stoner/Doom shizzle and also need to check out Sigh, seen them mentioned quite a few times now as being decent.

[Freezing Moon]

Thee Plague of Gentlemen
The Gates of Slumber
Solstice
Solitude Aeturnus
Orodruin
Warning

I have heard all of those. All are excellent.

New Dark Age has been getting tons of plays from me lately.

[Werny]

In short Candlemass are ace.


Ace they are, but they just lack something for me.

The drums aren't meant to be technical, I know this, I did not say they had to be. I just said they're boring. They don't do anything. Assassin of the Light has some cool fills in the first verse, that's about as exciting as they get. EW's drummer sucks but he does very energetic fills and good beats, I love what he does for Weird Tales.

Messiah never suited Candlemass, for me. He just... I don't really know why, his style just never clicked with me. Sometimes it gets very annoying, and when he tries to be harsh and serious it's hilarious. I loved the guy on Epicus Doomicus Metallicus, he sounded more serious and had a seriously wicked scream on him.

Witches is awesome, so is Mars And Volcanoes and The Man Who Fell From The Sky. That's about it.

They just sound like a british heavy metal band with a lot of Sabbath influence. I never liked that british style.

The riffs, yeah they're good until they get all 80's hair metal. And yes, the riffs in EW are nearly all the same, but that makes it kinda hypnotising...

I don't know. The Mass just don't click with me all that often. They have lots of NICE songs though.

[Jondur]

They just sound like a british heavy metal band with a lot of Sabbath influence. I never liked that british style.

They're an epic doom band. That's what epic doom is - see Solitude Aeturnus, Solstice etc. I think TRUE doom covers it.

The riffs, yeah they're good until they get all 80's hair metal.

Don't start. There's a big big difference between NWOBHM and Poison or Ratt.

[lobsterjohnson]

im desperate for sleepsholy mountain or any high on fire
AIM HailToFirex

[Bartender]

Link (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000248Y8/qid=1139960645/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl/026-6677829-6756455)

Link (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00073K8AW/qid=1139960671/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_11_1/026-6677829-6756455)

[Werny]

The Japanese band?

Yah. Apparently they're avant-garde but that song is really stoner-ish.



They're an epic doom band. That's what epic doom is - see Solitude Aeturnus, Solstice etc. I think TRUE doom covers it.

I don't find anything epic about their self-titled album, but yes Nightfall (from what I've heard) and Epicus are very epic. And, well, then I guess I'm not a big fan of this "TRUE doom".

Don't start. There's a big big difference between NWOBHM and Poison or Ratt.

Yeah yeah ok ok, I was exaggerating a bit. Sorry.

By the way... people are calling Assassin of the Light their best song. Yes, it starts off nicely... but the bit after the chorus where it keeps starting the riff, only to cut it off and say "assassin of the light" is, I'm not kidding, the only part of a song I've heard that actually frustrates me. Most days I can't listen to that bit.

[Jondur]

I don't find anything epic about their self-titled album,

Not even Copernicus? It's about as epic as it gets.

And, well, then I guess I'm not a big fan of this "TRUE doom".

TRUE DOOM= Revelation, St Vitus, Solstice, Solitude Aeturnus etc
NOT true doom = Electric Wizard, Orange Goblin, My Dying Bride etc


By the way... people are calling Assassin of the Light their best song.

Not me. I think it's average. Copernicus, Seven Silver Keys on the other hand are very very good.

NB Nothing can be compared to EDM and Nightfall - it's just not fair, they're classics and beyond anything in this day and age.

[Stoic]

NOT true doom = Electric Wizard, Orange Goblin, My Dying Bride etc

Do you at least consider them seperate sub genre of doom?

[Bartender]

Well Orange Goblin aren't even really untrue doom, like them though I do. They're just a (stoner) rock band.

Electric Wizard are pretty much a stoner band at heart, too; they're just at one extreme end of the spectrum.

[Jondur]

Do you at least consider them seperate sub genre of doom?

MDB = death/doom

but you have to consider that death/doom really doesn't have anything to do with doom. These bands, well the originators of the style (Paradise Lost, Anathema, MDB) were death metal bands who added the atmospherics of Into the Pandemonium Celtic Frost. Therefore no input from the originators of doom (ie Pentagram, St Vitus etc).

Orange Goblin and Electric Wizard = stoner (as Bartender pointed out).

Genre pedantry aside, I'm glad to see some people picked up on the suggestions I made - It's a shame we can't upload songs here anymore because there's loads more to hear!

[Jondur]

Here's a great live vid of Revelation at Doom Shall Rise in 2003.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqfJlxL9ZKk

Great, great, great band.

[A_Guy]

I have Frequencies From Planet Ten by Orange Goblin and really enjoy it. Is their other stuff similar?

[acerb]

OK - for starters there is no such thing as stoner doom. There is stoner and there is doom. They are very different.
According to this site- http://www.doom-metal.com/faq.html- there's stoner rock and stoner/doom. but i dont know, u might be right, i'm not an expert, thats how i found that site.

[Cardboard Headgear]

Have any of you heard Deadboy and the Elephantmen? It's (former Acid Bath singer) Dax's band, and I highly enjoy them. Very gloomy stoner-ish (as in only kinda!) stuff. I managed to get their album If This Is Hell Then I'm Lucky, it's a great listen from start to finish. Jon, I know you like Dax's vocals, perhaps you'd like this band too. I can YSI if anyone is interested. I also got his other band's s/t album Agents of Oblivion. It's similar, but a bit more rockish and not nearly as good as far as I'm concerned.

[Jondur]

According to this site- http://www.doom-metal.com/faq.html- there's stoner rock and stoner/doom. but i dont know, u might be right, i'm not an expert, thats how i found that site.

I am right. That site is for Gays. Check out such topics as "Is Autopsy Doom?" and "Are Opeth Doom?"

[Jondur]

Have any of you heard Deadboy and the Elephantmen? It's (former Acid Bath singer) Dax's band, and I highly enjoy them. Very gloomy stoner-ish (as in only kinda!) stuff. I managed to get their album If This Is Hell Then I'm Lucky, it's a great listen from start to finish. Jon, I know you like Dax's vocals, perhaps you'd like this band too. I can YSI if anyone is interested. I also got his other band's s/t album Agents of Oblivion. It's similar, but a bit more rockish and not nearly as good as far as I'm concerned.

I'm definitely interested. I have the Agents of Oblivion album and I think its pretty good (although nowhere near the genius of Acid Bath). On a related note I was watching the Acid Bath DVD this morning (it's a good way to wake up!) - well worth getting, great footage of rehearsals in a barn and some decent gigs.

[Cardboard Headgear]

I'll start uploading it, go ahead and post yer email, and that goes for anyone else who wants it.

[Phototropic]

Cool man I'd be intrested :) thanks

jonny40k2k @ hotmail.com

[Jondur]

Count me in:

jonathon_gibbs@<nospam>hotmail.com

[Cardboard Headgear]

Sent. If any more of you want it, tell me and I'll send it again tomorrow night, then after that I'll just give it to the daily upload guys I guess.

[the2stranger]

I've ordered Swallow The Sun - Ghost Of Loss (cd+dvd)

Any fans of them here?
I haven't heard much about them except for a few trackson internet radio

[Mother]

Sent. If any more of you want it, tell me and I'll send it again tomorrow night, then after that I'll just give it to the daily upload guys I guess.


thedeath7734@hotmail.com


Thanks man .. :thumb:

[Bartender]

I would also like to hear this. I like Acid Bath, and their vocals.

eruantien@gmail.com

[A_Guy]

Ok sounds good
iamacoolguy@gmail.com

[Freezing Moon]

I'll try it.

tyler.stagg@gmail.com

Thanks.

[Vortigon]

Yeah, I've been wanting to hear that for some time. Thanks a lot.

jmcgrenery@hotmail.com

[acerb]

I am right. That site is for Gays. Check out such topics as "Is Autopsy Doom?" and "Are Opeth Doom?"
o ok

[Cardboard Headgear]

Ha sorry forgot to send it last night, will do so now. Also Jon, the one I sent to you got spit back at me. I just copied and pasted what you typed, so is that <no spam> dealy supposed to be in there?

EDIT: sent it out just now to the rest of you

[Freezing Moon]

Ha sorry forgot to send it last night, will do so now. Also Jon, the one I sent to you got spit back at me. I just copied and pasted what you typed, so is that <no spam> dealy supposed to be in there?

EDIT: sent it out just now to the rest of you
Thanks. :)

Downloading now, will listen tomorow and post some feedback.

[Jondur]

Ha sorry forgot to send it last night, will do so now. Also Jon, the one I sent to you got spit back at me. I just copied and pasted what you typed, so is that <no spam> dealy supposed to be in there?

EDIT: sent it out just now to the rest of you

no it's not. It's to stop spam - just delete that bit so it's just @hotmail.com

Anyway on doomy topic:

Currently worshipping: PENANCE! Godly band.

[the2stranger]

I've ordered Swallow The Sun - Ghost Of Loss (cd+dvd)

Any fans of them here?
I haven't heard much about them except for a few trackson internet radio
:confused:
anyone?

[jaco jr]

i like doom metal
stoner metal sucks

[Cardboard Headgear]

So, what'd you guys think of the Deadboy album?

[Kyle]

Going to see Orange Goblin, Rameses, Sourvein, Olde Crone and Jecano in Camden in April, Cant Wait.

For anyone who hasn't heard Jecano check them out here:
http://www.jecanorock.com/
it's awesome stuff.

[the2stranger]

I've recently re discovered how much I love Let loose The Swans of My Dying Bride.
such an awesome album.

riding on my bike back home in the middle of the night with an icy wind and this cd on, what an experience.

[Bartender]

So, what'd you guys think of the Deadboy album?

I didn't manage to download it in time. Sorry.

[Phototropic]

I've been glancing through some bands myspaces in my area

Heres one stunning band I'm gonna see on wednesday

http://www.myspace.com/bombthesun

I love their sound and whole vibe, great stuff

Hope you enjoy

Ps

Kyuss still **** all over any music you listen to ;)

[Vortigon]

Going to see Orange Goblin, Rameses, Sourvein, Olde Crone and Jecano in Camden in April, Cant Wait.

For anyone who hasn't heard Jecano check them out here:
http://www.jecanorock.com/
it's awesome stuff.
Me too, most probably. Teh Crone rule.

[A_Guy]

Kyuss still **** all over any music you listen to ;)

\m/

[Phototropic]

Gonna see Bomb the sun tonight

Cant frickin wait

Also Lethargy are supporting them I think

[Inpropagation]

Let's start out with our favorite Doom Bands!

Mine are:

Reverend Bizarre
Cathedral
Pale Divine
Candlemass

[Bazarov]

I'm new to doom metal. I recently got Epicus Doomicus Metallicus. It's amazingly good. I need more. So I guess my favorite doom metal band is Candlemass only because they're the only one I've heard besides Black Sabbath (If you consider them doom)

[IheartSP]

Before I ever heard Doom Metal my speculation would be that it would be scary atmospheric type metal, such as The Call of Ktulu by Metallica or something like that. When I got a Candlemass album off the Daily Upload I realized it was nothing like that, and it's just a drony rock-based form of metal. Not really my cup of tea.

[Inpropagation]

Before I ever heard Doom Metal my speculation would be that it would be scary atmospheric type metal, such as The Call of Ktulu by Metallica or something like that. When I got a Candlemass album off the Daily Upload I realized it was nothing like that, and it's just a drony rock-based form of metal. Not really my cup of tea.

You obviously have never listened to any funeral doom.

[IheartSP]

Wanna gimme some bands? I would love an extremely dark melodic band.

[Steerpike]

Toss Saint Vitus into the mix as well. Wino was probably the best vocalist they had out of the three.

[Bazarov]

I thought that Epicus Doomicus Metallicus made a rather "doom" atomsphere.

[IheartSP]

I thought that Epicus Doomicus Metallicus made a rather "doom" atomsphere.
If that is a Candlemass album, I've only heard the new self-titled one.

[Crysiss]

I dont know if Novembers Doom is Doom Metal but I like those guys. It kind of reminds me of Opeth at times.

[AA-12]

Isole is definitely the best i've ever heard.

[ATC]

Solitude Aeternus
Witchfinder General
Reverend Bizzare
Swallow the Sun
Saturnus

Those would be my doom-metal picks.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

I only know a coupe of Doom bands. I like Candlemass, and I enjoy Nortt if I'm in the mood for Funeral Doom.

[Crysiss]

Ive been hearing alot about Swallow The Sun lately.

[PECOAE]

Hmm, I googled it, checked some of it out, and it seems pretty cool. Sounds kinda like a marriage of Sabbath and ...something I don't know right now.

[IheartSP]

Sabbath did kind of start the whole thing. I don't peticularly like Sabbath though...

[PepsiMetal]

Candlemass are amazing.

Not sure if they're doom, but Acid Bath and Crowbar sound very doomy and also kick ***.

Oh and Black Sabbath of course, duh.

[halfdeadhippo]

Mourning Beloveth are probably my favorite, followed closely by Solitude Aeturnus.

[IheartSP]

Candlemass are amazing.

Not sure if they're doom, but Acid Bath and Crowbar sound very doomy and also kick ***.

Oh and Black Sabbath of course, duh.
Crowbar is sludge metal I think, which is closely related.

[ATC]

Sabbath is not a doom band.

[IheartSP]

They were a humungous influence on it. Electric Funeral and Black Sabbath both sound pretty doomy to me.

[ATC]

Oh, they did influence it. Witchfinder General, for example, borrows from some of their work. But nonetheless, Sabbath were not doom metal in the sense we know it today.

[PECOAE]

Saint Vitus IS good doom.

But good doom means a bit stoner.

Even Kyuss, Josh Homme's old band is pretty doom-y.

[Cain]

Paramaecium would probably be one of the doomiest of the doom metal bands, to be honest: extremely funereal, VERY slow, incredibly, obsessively dark, and very beautiful. The only "problem" is that they identify with a Christian mindset, and their drummer, Jayson Sherlock, shares duties with them and with the Christian speed-death band Mortification. And they're Australian. \m/

Anybody who's curious can check out my gushing review of their album "Within the Ancient Forest." :D

[Sleepy]

I'm a relative n00b to doom metal, although I love what I've heard from it: Agalloch, Candlemass, Isole - all great stuff. Anyone have any recommendations for what to check out next?

[Freezing Moon]

I like most styles of doom, but overall my favorite is probably the traditional and epic. Funeral Doom is great, but unless it's night and I'm in the mood, I'll usually put something else on.

[Sup, Goats?]

www.myspace.com/vorefare

[Werny]

I'm a relative n00b to doom metal, although I love what I've heard from it: Agalloch, Candlemass, Isole - all great stuff. Anyone have any recommendations for what to check out next?

Well don't expect anything like Agalloch, seeing as they're not doom metal and all.

I love doom like sex. I tried checking out some Funeral Doom. Nortt is awesome, best atmosphere I've ever heard. But the other band I checked out... Thergothon. Yeah they are horrible, there's no heaviness, the production just ruins everything and the guitar has this annoying effect on it.

[UpperDecker]

I still don't know any doom bands. Can i get some band names so i can hear them on myspace(lol). Its faster than having to download them.

[Inpropagation]

I still don't know any doom bands. Can i get some band names so i can hear them on myspace(lol). Its faster than having to download them.

RTFT

Read the ****ing thread.

[UpperDecker]

RTFT

Read the ****ing thread.

Yea i should have done that in the first place, sorry bout that. But next time can you not be such a p-rick about it?

[Silenius]

Isole and Solstice are the Doom Metal I've been listening to lately. (Thanks to Freezing Moon.)

Besides them I'm into Khanate, Sunn O))), Jesu etc. (Yeah some of those are Drone/Doom, o well.)

Sabbath is not a doom band.
:amaze:, maybe not completely but they are definitely essential to the genre.

[=-fukifiknow-=]

whats good candlemass?

[Steerpike]

Nightfall, Tales of Creation, and the self-titled.

[joe_fresh]

whats good candlemass?

Epicus Doomicus Metallicus is probably my favourite

I'm a relative n00b to doom metal, although I love what I've heard from it: Agalloch, Candlemass, Isole - all great stuff. Anyone have any recommendations for what to check out next?

Solitude Aeturnus - Beyond The Crimson Horizon
Doomsword - Let Battle Commence
Spirit Caravan - Jug Fulla Sun
Confessor - Condemed
Solstice - Lamentations
While Heaven Wept - Chapter One: 1989-1999

[rhcp pman]

I only just started getting into doom metal recently (apart from Black Sabbath and Starchild), and I'm downloading a doom metal torrent now.

I've been listening to Candlemass' Epicus Doomicus Metallicus very frequently in the last 3 days. It's pure gold. I love it.

[repcak]

for me there exist two types of doom metal

#1) the traditional ones who are in tradition of black sabbaths self titled album -> f.e.: Candlemass, who are more rock than metal

#2) doom metal bands who play doom metal but have nothing in common with the traditional doom metal! f.e.: Anathema, My Dying Bride, Katatonia, Sunn O))) (=Drone doom metal), Novembre, etc.
in this category i count bands from the funeral doom metal corner too! f.e.: Pantheist, Shades of Despair.

thats my definition of doom... and i prefer the second one - for me thats doom

[Phototropic]

Saint Vitus IS good doom.

But good doom means a bit stoner.

Even Kyuss, Josh Homme's old band is pretty doom-y.

Kyuss ain't doom

I think Electric Wizard are, but I dont really know, I class them as stoner

They rule

[metal-militia]

my favourites are:
Trouble
Saint Vitus
Pentagram
Witchfinder General
Ramesses
Electric Wizard

Last 2 have a bit more of a stoner influence.

[Phototropic]

my favourites are:
Trouble
Saint Vitus
Pentagram
Witchfinder General
Ramesses
Electric Wizard

Last 2 have a bit more of a stoner influence.

Dopethrone is a masterpiece, simple as :)

[Mother_Of_Abominations]

I tend to listen to a lot of My Dying Bride, some Amorphis, and occasionally some Sunn 0)))

[obituary.]

Hey Husker, guess who.

Anyways, I love Candlemass. Other than that it's the only doom I have heard.

[repcak]

I tend to listen to a lot of My Dying Bride, some Amorphis, and occasionally some Sunn 0)))
Amorphis has nothing in common with doom metal

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Hey Husker, guess who.

Anyways, I love Candlemass. Other than that it's the only doom I have heard.
Nice username ;)

You know Husker in real life? I talk to him on soulseek alot. :)

[Vitriolic Rage]

At the moment, I'm listening to a lot of:

Cathedral
Candlemass
Reverand Bizarre
Sunn O)))
Burning Witch
Earth
Thorr's Hammer
The River
SuB->TERROR<-NeA (my own band, hehe)
Moonn D)))
Electric Wizard

[musicforlife]

Black Sabbath.

[Sleepy]

Is Katatonia Doom Metal or Post Metal? Or neither?

[Vitriolic Rage]

Post metal?
For ****s sake, all these stupid genres people invent piss me off.
Post metal...

I'd say they are doom metal. I have the Brave Murder Day album, that's doom

[halfdeadhippo]

At the moment, I'm listening to a lot of:

Cathedral
Candlemass
Reverand Bizarre
Sunn O)))
Burning Witch
Earth
Thorr's Hammer
The River
SuB->TERROR<-NeA (my own band, hehe)
Moonn D)))
Electric Wizard
Do you have any of their demos you could send me over AIM or MSN? My screen name's the same as this one.

[Neurotoxin]

Is Katatonia Doom Metal or Post Metal? Or neither?

Katatonia have been both a doom metal band and a (depressive) rock band.

Amorphis has nothing in common with doom metal

Nah, they certainly have some doom elements.

As for me, some doom(ish) bands I recommend include:

Anathema
Black Sabbath
Candlemass
Carnivore
Catacombs
Cathedral
Cirith Ungol
Confessor
Count Raven
Cultus Sanguine
Doomshine
Ekklesiast
Electric Wizard (hottest guitarist in metal, click here (http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e94/catharticfrost/407_photo.jpg))
Estatic Fear (highly recommended)
Forest of Shadows
Forest Stream
Isole
Katatonia
My Dying Bride
Nortt
November's Doom
Pantheist
Paramaecium
Place of Skulls
Reverend Bizarre
Saint Vitus
Saturnus
Solstice
Spirit Caravan
Swallow the Sun
Thalarion
The Gates of Slumber
The Liquescent Horror
The Prophecy
Torture Wheel
Uaral
Uncertainty Principle
Virgin Black
Whispering Gallery

I have albums from all of these bands on my computer, so if you'd like one, just hit me up on Soulseek (my SN is "Neurotoxin").

[Sleepy]

I don't have Soulseek, but I'm definitely interested in a lot of those bands. What about AIM?

[Neurotoxin]

I loathe AIM. What's your email?

[joe_fresh]

Confessor

I have their first album, Condemed which is amazing. I could listen to their drummer all day. But what is their newest album like?

[Sleepy]

dethrider@gmail.com

[repcak]

Is Katatonia Doom Metal or Post Metal? Or neither?
at first they were doom death metal, now they are a depressive rock band or maybe even just doom metal

old Katatonia > new Katatonia

[Vitriolic Rage]

Do you have any of their demos you could send me over AIM or MSN? My screen name's the same as this one.
I have one demo track, A Close Study.
You can find it on their soundclick page.

Their ex-drummer used to frequent these forums, but I haven't seen him around for a while.

[Steerpike]

I loathe AIM. What's your email?

Send a couple albums my way. You pick, though I would like to hear some Paramaecium, Nortt, and Ecstatic Fear.

atomsho@gmail.com

[halfdeadhippo]

I have one demo track, A Close Study.
You can find it on their soundclick page.

Their ex-drummer used to frequent these forums, but I haven't seen him around for a while.
Yeah, Jondur's their ex drummer. I've already heard that track, that's why I was looking for more. If I ever find more, I'll let you know.

[obituary.]

Nice username ;)

You know Husker in real life? I talk to him on soulseek alot. :)

Nah, I know him from another forum.

[musicforlife]

Are the first couple of albums Ozzy did solo, considered doom metal?

[Steerpike]

Are the first couple of albums Ozzy did solo, considered doom metal?

No. Speed metal.

[i am the robots]

I like the stoner doom stuff:
Clutch
High On Fire
Seemless
Lamented Souls
Sleep
etc.

[Txus]

I'm getting a lot into Candlemass at the moment I think Ancient Dreams is an outstanding album I don't like the s/t that much as I like Ancient Dream but I haven't heard Epicus Doomicus Metallicus :(

I'm not really a big Doom Metal fan but I also like Saint Vitus they are so freaking great, " Born Too Late" is really good.

[Ummm]

Go For Evoken and Skepticism!

[Sup, Goats?]

Listen to these guys.

www.myspace.com/vorefare

[Sleepy]

I got Virgin Black - Elegant...And Dying from Neurotoxin, and it's absolutely breathtaking. I'm looking forward to listening to more of this stuff.

[Nepenthe]

I don't really like Stoner stuff. But I do love just plain doom metal bands like November's Doom.

Anyone into Sins Of Thy Beloved? They're a doom/gothic metal band. They have some truly beautiful pieces, as well as some damn heavy and sad ones.

[Sleepy]

Anyone into Sins Of Thy Beloved? They're a doom/gothic metal band. They have some truly beautiful pieces, as well as some damn heavy and sad ones.

Send, and I can tell you what I think :) I'm eager as hell to try out Doom now.

[Werny]

I love the first album by November's Doom. Such a no-bullshat approach to doom metal, it floors me.

I think Electric Wizard are really just Stoner Rock played really, reeeeeeally slow.

[Magicaltroll]

I'm not sure if these are Doom, but...

Khanate
Sunn O)))
Dot [.]
Thee Plague Of Gentlemen
Corrupted


I love the scarier stuff really.
I'm actually like, obsessed with Khanate :p

[repcak]

scary stuff... :rolleyes:
sounds interesting... can you upload some of the scary stuff for the daily upload?

[the2stranger]

I'm not sure if these are Doom, but...

Khanate
Sunn O)))
Dot [.]
Thee Plague Of Gentlemen
Corrupted


I love the scarier stuff really.
I'm actually like, obsessed with Khanate :p
Corrupted is easily the most scary usic I've ever heard, beats fantomas - Delirium Corda,

how's Dot [.] ?

[Kronos]

Four pages of Doom discussion, and no mention of Paradise Lost.....

I think they deserve a plug


PS to the guy who said old Katatonia is better than new - I agree 100%

The Great Cold Distance is pretty poor IMO

[Nepenthe]

Four pages of Doom discussion, and no mention of Paradise Lost.....

I think they deserve a plug


PS to the guy who said old Katatonia is better than new - I agree 100%

The Great Cold Distance is pretty poor IMO

And December Souls > almost all other doom metal.

And I'm uploading a Sins Of Thy Beloved cd for you right now Fury.

[Poofy 666]

Corrupted is easily the most scary usic I've ever heard, beats fantomas - Delirium Corda
i <3 Corrupted.

I'm still searching for other CDs by them

[repcak]

Four pages of Doom discussion, and no mention of Paradise Lost.....

I think they deserve a plug


PS to the guy who said old Katatonia is better than new - I agree 100%

The Great Cold Distance is pretty poor IMO
Nice that you agree with me.


... but Paradise Lost is Gothic Metal not Doom... a lot of ppl here mix doom together with gothic... the two genres are different!!

[Nepenthe]

Nice that you agree with me.


... but Paradise Lost is Gothic Metal not Doom... a lot of ppl here mix doom together with gothic... the two genres are different!!

Technically stoner and sludge stuff isn't doom METAL either but that is being discussed here. This is pretty much the doom metal and various subcategories thread.

[ForThePunx76]

cathedral, i dont like alot of doom-metal

[repcak]

Technically stoner and sludge stuff isn't doom METAL either but that is being discussed here. This is pretty much the doom metal and various subcategories thread.
and i disagree to discuss stoner & co bands in a doom metal thread.... doom metal has its own style!

Gothic is not a subcategorie of Doom, neither is stone & co.
doom is doom! a subcategory would be funeral doom or drone doom metal

[Nepenthe]

Fury, what's your email address?

If anyone else wants to check out Sins Of Thy Beloved post your email here.

[Nepenthe]

and i disagree to discuss stoner & co bands in a doom metal thread.... doom metal has its own style!

Gothic is not a subcategorie of Doom, neither is stone & co.
doom is doom! a subcategory would be funeral doom.

If we only discussed doom metal, it would be pretty boring. Sorry, but truly good doom metal bands are far and few.


Oops, double post.

[Crysiss]

Im going to report you:p

Id like to hear Sins Of Thy Beloved IATBW.

nightrise713@gmail.com

[repcak]

check out http://www.doom-metal.com especially the section FAQ

LINK (http://www.doom-metal.com/faq.html#2)

and read following articles:
2) What is the difference between Doom-Metal and Gothic?
11) Is all slow and sad music Doom-Metal?
12) What is the difference between Stoner and Doom-Metal?
18) What are Sub-genres?

hope this will help you to understand WHAT doom is :thumb:

[Nepenthe]

check out http://www.doom-metal.com especially the section FAQ

LINK (http://www.doom-metal.com/faq.html#2)

and read following articles:
2) What is the difference between Doom-Metal and Gothic?
11) Is all slow and sad music Doom-Metal?
12) What is the difference between Stoner and Doom-Metal?
18) What are Sub-genres?

hope this will help you to understand WHAT doom is :thumb:

I know the differences. I was saying a thread that only discussed strictly doom metal bands would suck. TRULY good doom metal bands are hard to come by, and I feel it's a genre that's gone pretty stagnant as of late as far as new and good stuff goes.

The black metal thread doesn't just talk about black metal, they discuss alot of symphonic black metal, as well as some folk and viking metal, avant garde and anything with ties to black metal. The death metal thread discusses tech death, melodic death, and all the other types of death.

[Freezing Moon]

I know the differences. I was saying a thread that only discussed strictly doom metal bands would suck. TRULY good doom metal bands are hard to come by, and I feel it's a genre that's gone pretty stagnant as of late as far as new and good stuff goes.

The black metal thread doesn't just talk about black metal, they discuss alot of symphonic black metal, as well as some folk and viking metal, avant garde and anything with ties to black metal. The death metal thread discusses tech death, melodic death, and all the other types of death.
In any case, it is not your right to decide what this thread is on.

[i am the robots]

Four pages of Doom discussion, and no mention of Paradise Lost

Paradise Lost is kinda goth metal... well their new stuff anyhow.

good band nonetheless.

Draconian Times = :drools:

[Nepenthe]

In any case, it is not your right to decide what this thread is on.

Neither is it anyone elses.

[Steerpike]

Speaking as a fan of Gothic music, it really doesn't have anything in common with doom metal aside from the fact that it's people playing electric guitars, bass guitars, drumsets, and sometimes keyboards and they usually have singers.

That's about it. It's not a subgenre or an off-shoot.

[i am the robots]

Speaking as a fan of Gothic music, it really doesn't have anything in common with doom metal aside from the fact that it's people playing electric guitars, bass guitars, drumsets, and sometimes keyboards and they usually have singers.

That's about it. It's not a subgenre or an off-shoot.

Yes, but Paradise Lost's middle-era stuff was like... goth/doom.

<-also a fan of gothic music.

[Txus]

So my friend just gave me Epicus Doomicus Metallicus and I think I made a mistake by saying that Ancient Dreams was their best effort, I think this album is perfect.

NP: Candlemass - Black Stone Wielder

[Freezing Moon]

Neither is it anyone elses.
Last time I checked the threadstarter determined what the topic is. :confused:

So my friend just gave me Epicus Doomicus Metallicus and I think I made a mistake by saying that Ancient Dreams was their best effort, I think this album is perfect.

It switches for me between that and Nightfall. Both are great.

[repcak]

Yes, but Paradise Lost's middle-era stuff was like... goth/doom.

<-also a fan of gothic music.
their older stuff, yes. but not now

[Magicaltroll]

scary stuff... :rolleyes:
sounds interesting... can you upload some of the scary stuff for the daily upload?
Scary stuff is the only thing I can really think of... seeing how it's pretty trippy (or 'scary') to listen to in the dark, or just when you get into the music and stuff.

I keep asking what to do to upload something to the Daily Upload, but I never go back to see the answer :/ Maybe you can tell me who to send the links to in here, because I'm going to be checking this thing a bit, so I can check out new bands and stuff.

Four pages of Doom discussion, and no mention of Paradise Lost.....
I like Paradise Lost alot, but I haven't listened to them in a looong time.

i <3 Corrupted.

I'm still searching for other CDs by them
I have some stuff on Soulseek that you might not have. I should be on there tomorrow sometime.

ss name - Magicaltroll


how's Dot [.] ?
I like Dot [.] quite a bit. Some of their stuff doesn't have a lot of structure, but it's still really good stuff in my opinion.

[Ummm]

These Bands Are pretty Incredible ,Underground Meanwhile

1.Dolorian{Finland}

2.Skepticism{Finland}

3.Evoken{U.S.A}

[halfdeadhippo]

^I really like Skepticism. Stormcrowfleet is a classic for me.

Also, I just discovered Khanate via Tyler's slsk. This is the creepiest music I've ever heard. It makes me think of a deformed hill person sitting in a cave somewhere in Kentucky (nothing against Kentucky, just there's a lot of caves there) and peeling skin off the bones of his/her human prey, talking to him/herself.

[repcak]

@Magicaltroll: you have to upload the file on yousendit.com, megaupload or something like that and send the link to metaloz. thats all.

[The Sandman]

If anyone would be so kind as to send me any doom metal I'll have your babies.

mx.sandman@gmail.com

[Werny]

I've just started downloading some Skepticism. The small bits I've heard sound excrutiatingly amazing! They have a weird groove to them, it's lovely.

[Magicaltroll]

^I really like Skepticism. Stormcrowfleet is a classic for me.

Also, I just discovered Khanate via Tyler's slsk. This is the creepiest music I've ever heard. It makes me think of a deformed hill person sitting in a cave somewhere in Kentucky (nothing against Kentucky, just there's a lot of caves there) and peeling skin off the bones of his/her human prey, talking to him/herself.
Khanate basically owns me.

I listen to it almost every night before I go to bed. I love that stuff so much. But it's hard to listen to alot though, since it's not really for the "music" in my opinion, I think they focus way more on atmosphere.

...Which isn't bad at all for me :D


I checked out Candlemass' Epicus whatever CD. And I'm not really impressed :/ But I'm loving the Electric Wizard I got last night. I think it's the voice that kills Candlemass for me.

It's nothing that bad, but I don't like it much :/


@repcak - What's metaloz's e-mail address?

@sandman - I'll send you some stuff, or if you have soulseek, just add me to your list. If you don't, I'll send you the Khanate, Heavy Lord, and Neurosis (not really doom, but still amazing stuff) that I'm uploading to the daily upload thing.

[Txus]

I'm opossite to you in that Magicaltroll I don't like Electric Wizard that much in fact I don't like them at all but I love Candlemass I think Messiah Marcolin has one of the best voices I've ever heard...the problem is that the album you heard Epicus Doomicus Metallicus has another dude in the vox...you should give Nightfall or Ancient Dreams a try.

[repcak]

@Magicaltroll: metaloz@yahoo.com

[halfdeadhippo]

I'm opossite to you in that Magicaltroll I don't like Electric Wizard that much in fact I don't like them at all but I love Candlemass I think Messiah Marcolin has one of the best voices I've ever heard...the problem is that the album you heard Epicus Doomicus Metallicus has another dude in the vox...you should give Nightfall or Ancient Dreams a try.
Thanks for that. I never understood why I didn't like Candlemass's vocals when everybody else raved about them until now.

[repcak]

anyone have heard of Lacrimas Profundere?

[Txus]

anyone have heard of Lacrimas Profundere?
Yeah, thanks to ATC he sent me their album "Burning A Wish" and it's really good even though I don't liek Goth Music that much this guys are great. I need some more of their stuff...:(

[repcak]

yeah, its a great album... i just listen to them.

do you got Novembre too? a great band! on metalstorm they say that Lacrimas Profundere is gothic doom metal and novembre is (i'm not sure) doom-death metal.

both great bands and Lacrimas Profundere - Burning: A Wish and Novembre - Dreams D'Azur are the only two bands that caught my attention recently. i started to love them as much as i love Anathema and/or NIN.

[Txus]

Yeah Novembre are amazing, I compare them with Opeth a lot. Drams D'Azur is a grea album I think the song "Swim Seagul In The Sky" is a gem I love it, well the whole album is perfect for me. I plan on getting their album Novembrine Waltz sometime soon.

[repcak]

yeah, this song is a gem! every song on this album is a gem for me. there is no bad song on it... its the same with Lacrimas Profundere. i can't stop listen to this two albums in the last few days.

[Txus]

yeah, this song is a gem! every song on this album is a gem for me. there is no bad song on it... its the same with Lacrimas Profundere. i can't stop listen to this two albums in the last few days.
You should check out Dark Suns if you like Novembre that much, they aren't THAT alike but I think you may enjoy them.

[repcak]

Dark Sun? is this an album by Novembre or is it a band?

NP: Swim Seagul In The Sky


edit:
the only thing i cannot understand how humans can make such a powerful music. i am stunned sometimes when i listen to Anathema, and now Novembre and Lacrimas Profundere.
It is one thing to write music like CoB, Slayer and so, who are difficult to play, but its another thing to write music who touch you emotionally and is so powerful.

[Txus]

Dark Sun? is this an album by Novembre or is it a band?

NP: Swim Seagul In The Sky
It's a band.

NP: Novembre - Nottetempo

[repcak]

on metalstorm they say they are progressive death metal... but i will check them out.

[Txus]

Make sure to check out their album Existence, it's really good, I mus admit that you need to give them a few listens to understand its potential and beauty but it is certainly worth it.

[repcak]

ok, thank you. i will

[Poofy 666]

I have some stuff on Soulseek that you might not have. I should be on there tomorrow sometime.

ss name - Magicaltroll

I meant actual copies of their cds, i've found some on eBay, which is where I got my copy of Llenandose de Gusanos for $10 :cool:

[the2stranger]

I like Dot [.] quite a bit. Some of their stuff doesn't have a lot of structure, but it's still really good stuff in my opinion.
Would you mind sending me some of their stuff?
peter_time(at) hotmail,.com if it's not too much trouble, thanks :)

[Daven]

I meant actual copies of their cds, i've found some on eBay, which is where I got my copy of Llenandose de Gusanos for $10 :cool:

Damn, that's very cheap. I wish i could find some Corrupted on the local stores. :upset:

[Magicaltroll]

I'm opossite to you in that Magicaltroll I don't like Electric Wizard that much in fact I don't like them at all but I love Candlemass I think Messiah Marcolin has one of the best voices I've ever heard...the problem is that the album you heard Epicus Doomicus Metallicus has another dude in the vox...you should give Nightfall or Ancient Dreams a try.
I'll check one of those albums out.

I heard Epicus Doomicus Metallicus is their "masterpiece" though, so I thought I'd download it.

the only thing i cannot understand how humans can make such a powerful music. i am stunned sometimes when i listen to Anathema, and now Novembre and Lacrimas Profundere.
It is one thing to write music like CoB, Slayer and so, who are difficult to play, but its another thing to write music who touch you emotionally and is so powerful.
That's what I try to do. I wanna make music with so much intense emotion, that you actually get the exact feeling I'm trying to put across. But, I'm not quite there yet, at all in my opinion.

But yeah, I get that feeling from bands like -

- Sigur Ros
- Pig Destroyer
- Mastodon
- Radiohead
- Isis (sometimes)

I love that stuff though. You get tons of chills when listening to their songs and stuff.

Would you mind sending me some of their stuff?
peter_time(at) hotmail,.com if it's not too much trouble, thanks :)
Yeah, I'm going to uplaod a bunch of albums right now, so I'll send you the link when I'm done. It's gonna be a YSI one though, so, I hope that's not a problem.

[repcak]

- Sigur Ros
- Pig Destroyer
- Mastodon
- Radiohead
- Isis (sometimes)

well, at first i thought this is sarcasm, but i forgot that you are a big pig destroyer fan ... so you mean it, how you wrote it. but i can't understand it... well, each human is different on earth :thumb:


and beside that, i too want to make rather music which is "easy" to play but hits you full emotionally... for me THIS is the purpose of making music, not showing off how good you can play guitar. the only sad thing is that most ppl i know think the other way round.

[ATC]

I'm glad you guys liked the Lacrimas Profundere album. I must warn you though, that was the last album that would fall in the doom genre. After Burning: A Wish, they went in a more goth rock direction.

[halfdeadhippo]

and beside that, i too want to make rather music which is "easy" to play but hits you full emotionally... for me THIS is the purpose of making music, not showing off how good you can play guitar. the only sad thing is that most ppl i know think the other way round.
I know a lot of pieces of fast music that hit me just as hard as the slower ones, such as Jason Becker's "Air," John Coltrane's "Giant Steps," or either of the solos in "Buckethead" by Colonel Claypool's Bucket of Bernie Brains. It's not really about how simple or difficult it is, it's about the notes that are being played and the manner in which they are done so. Hell, even the wankage parts in "Acid Rain" by Liquid Tension Experiment get me more than a lot of music.


But to get back on topic, has anybody here heard of Boris? They're a Japanese drone/stoner/psychadelic band, named after a Melvins song. It's some pretty moving stuff. My favorite album is probably Amplifier Worship, one of their drone albums.

[Magicaltroll]

and beside that, i too want to make rather music which is "easy" to play but hits you full emotionally... for me THIS is the purpose of making music, not showing off how good you can play guitar. the only sad thing is that most ppl i know think the other way round.
Like that guy after you said, it's not how difficult or easy it is, it's just how you can relate to it.

And I get that alot, the Pig Destroyer thing. People are like "You think THIS is the most emotional album you've ever heard?!?!?!?!". But I can relate to it so good, and yeah, I'll stop before I go into a huge, huge rant :p


I'll check out Boris right now, halfdeadhippo.


And just to let you guys know, I'm uploading some Doom Metal stuff for the Daily Upload/the people I promised I'd upload for. So, expect it by tomorrow afternoon sometime.


EDIT - I'm listening to Boris - The Flood Part 1 right now. I'm not that into it, it's really weird though, which is a plus in my opinion :p But yeah, are all their albums like this? Or what?

I DO like the Lustmord type stuff they have going on though. The explosion type things going off about halfway through the song.

[Ummm]

Hmmm....Again gonna Repeat the rest Ov my Previos Post.......

1.Evoken{U.S.A}

2.Esoteric{U.K}

3.Dolorian{Finland}

Mainly Underground But with Both Good Sound and Production

[Nepenthe]

Hmmm....Again gonna Repeat the rest Ov my Previos Post.......

1.Evoken{U.S.A}

2.Esoteric{U.K}

3.Dolorian{Finland}

Mainly Underground But with Both Good Sound and Production

I've only heard Dolorian. I have the s/t and have heard some stuff off of When All The Laughter Is Gone. I like them quite a bit. They have very good lyrics. Even though every song has about 10 lines of them haha.

[acerb]

my favorites are st.vitus, electric wizard, isis, place of skulls, mdb, and centrifuge i guess.
Fury, what's your email address?

If anyone else wants to check out Sins Of Thy Beloved post your email here.
I have 3 sins of thy beloved songs and i like them, i'd like it if you could send my some too please if it's ok. smierra_gatto@yahoo.com

[Werny]

Hmmm....Again gonna Repeat the rest Ov my Previos Post.......

1.Evoken{U.S.A}

2.Esoteric{U.K}

3.Dolorian{Finland}

Mainly Underground But with Both Good Sound and Production

I'd love to hear some funeral doom with heavy guitar.

Still, I can't get over Skepticism. They're amazing. I love the drumming.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Nortt is good Funeral Doom. Try that :)

[RideTheSpiral]

I got Virgin Black - Elegant...And Dying from Neurotoxin, and it's absolutely breathtaking. I'm looking forward to listening to more of this stuff.



I live with Virgin Black's drummer...

[RideTheSpiral]

Also if you were interested they've just recorded a three disk album with the Adelaide Symphony Orchestra.

[Jondur]

Oh goody another doom metal thread full of talk about slow death metal bands, gothic wankery and avantgarde nonsense. Oh and let's not forget to talk about stoner and sludge too!

FFS there's enough proper doom metal bands out there to fill a thread.

Sorry for grumpiness but I've got food poisoning and only a double whammy of Orodruin and The Gates of Slumber is getting me through. That and the discovery of an old Icefall demo in the attic.

[joe_fresh]

To be fair this one looks like it will probably last longer then any of the others.

[the2stranger]

Yeah, I'm going to uplaod a bunch of albums right now, so I'll send you the link when I'm done. It's gonna be a YSI one though, so, I hope that's not a problem.

No problem, exellent man
thanks

[Werny]

Nortt is good Funeral Doom. Try that :)

Yeah I've heard a bit of the Nortt. The atmosphere is awesome but it's not really heavy. Just fuzz.

Not all is lost; I discovered that if you play Skepticism at low volume the guitar is just thick fuzz, but pump up the volume and it suddenly crushes everything.

[Werny]

FFS there's enough proper doom metal bands out there to fill a thread.

And there's enough views on what "Doom Metal" is to fill a forum.

[mick7]

Let's start out with our favorite Doom Bands!

Mine are:

Reverend Bizarre
Cathedral
Pale Divine
Candlemass


I absolutely LOVE My Dying Bride.

My fav songs of theres would be:

Black Heart Romance
For my fallen angel
for you
return to the beautiful

check them out, it's allllll good!

[repcak]

the only two Funeral doom metal bands i know are Pantheist and Shape of Despair. i haven't listen to them yet... are they good, or do you know better ones?


For my fallen angel

wow... i love this song!! do you know the EP which they made together with Anathema?! get it... its worth it.... two of my favourite doom metal bands on one EP together :thumb:

[Sleepy]

I live with Virgin Black's drummer...

If you're serious, tell him thanks for making some really, really excellent music. :thumb: They've made a fanboy out of me.

[Txus]

Hey repcak did you checked Dark Suns?

[repcak]

no, i haven't had the time yet ... but when you will upload some songs, it would be great :thumb:

but i will travel home tomorrow and there i won't have the possibility to download anything, until next week.

[Txus]

I'll send you the whole album in a sec, post your email.

[Sleepy]

Could you send it this way as well, Txus?

dethrider@gmail.com

Thanks :)

[repcak]

repcak@gmx.at

thank you man :thumb:

[Txus]

Ok, I'm uploading the album right now for both of you guys.

NP: Candlemass - Mirror, Mirror

[Sleepy]

Thanks a bunch, Txus.

[Txus]

No prob man, Hey I have a doubt, are Anathema considered Doom Metal? because I saw that some people didn't consider them DM but I really hear a lot of DM moments in their songs.

NP: Anathema - ...And I Lust