Any other Stoner/Doom metal fans?

[IAJP]

Can someone upload the first song off the Etheral Mirror by Cathedral?
:D
(By the way, fecking love doom metal :thumb: )

[Give me Beer]

Has anyone heard the new Om CD yet ( Variations on a Theme ) ? I'm pretty excited for it, but I haven't been able to get it yet. I've heard a few samples from it, and it sounds really Dopesmoker/Jerusalem'ish , but sans-guitar with cooler vocals.

[Jondur]

A couple of pics from Doom Shall Rise (there's bound to be loads more when other people get stuff developed):

The River in Goppingen, Germany (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v720/Jondur/55060002.jpg)
The Chapel before anyone arrived (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v720/Jondur/hall.jpg)
Me with Dennis from Revelation/Place of Skulls and Stu from Warning (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v720/Jondur/Dennis.jpg)

[PaulRawNerve]

Paul as in ex-Tangaroa?

Just back from Doom Shall Rise. Am far too tired to type any more. Full details and possibly audio in a few days!

hey mate
it is indeed, how's it going, thought i recognised the name in the thread..
:wave:

drop us an email in at paulrawnerve@ntlworld.com if you want a bit of promotion for your band.. :-)

...

wow, listening to 'a close study' now by your band, Jondur, sounds mint, really really top stuff, am liking it a lot in fact. great hybrid of nice and heavy, The Gathering meets My Dying Bride!

gonna tell people on our forum..

[Shred Danson]

/saves thread


I really have nothing to contribute...I've heard the new High on Fire, sounded like Classic HoF. I'm still listening to the new Corrosion of Conformity CD. I just don't like the drums on that CD for some reason...

[joe_fresh]

anyone else heard pelican's australasia? I suppose its stoner/doom, instrumental. I highly recommend it, if you havent already heard it

[PaulRawNerve]

it's fantastic.. the second song on there, 'drought', is a masterpiece!

[joe_fresh]

it's fantastic.. the second song on there, 'drought', is a masterpiece!

Yeah, i agree, i reckon thats their best song as well

[josh959]

my fave stoner rock has got to be QOTSA

[Shred Danson]

my fave stoner rock has got to be QOTSA

Their new stuff was highly dissappointing, man. I loved listening to songs like "Tension Head", and for a while it made me proud that a local band was getting so much attention, but Lullabies to Paralyze was just too...boring for me. I couldn't get into it.

[joe_fresh]

Their new stuff was highly dissappointing, man. I loved listening to songs like "Tension Head", and for a while it made me proud that a local band was getting so much attention, but Lullabies to Paralyze was just too...boring for me. I couldn't get into it.

The 1st album was by far their best and rated r and songs for the deaf weren't bad. What i have heard of their stuff is pretty piss poor.

[beaNN]

I like Doom Metal, although I havent actually heard that much of it apart from My Dying Bride.

[yog_sothoth]

well im no expert but its a genre i enjy and if anyone could reccomend me some bands which might lead on from the likes of neurosis (sovereign era), my dying bride etc....


http://www.freewebs.com/breathemachine/

[joe_fresh]

well im no expert but its a genre i enjy and if anyone could reccomend me some bands which might lead on from the likes of neurosis (sovereign era), my dying bride etc....


http://www.freewebs.com/breathemachine/

if you like neurosis have a listen to pelican or cult of luna, they both sound vaguley similar to eye of the storm by neurosis.

I also recommend doomsword, orodruin and reverend bizzare

[thundercross]

I was to lazy to read every page in this thread but is there any one that's in to Blind dog, EYEHATEGOD, grand magus, Down, or crowbar. I consider these guys the real stoner/Doom metal bands, if there's one or more you have never heard of check em' out they kick alot of A S S.

[Jondur]

I consider these guys the real Doom metal bands

Then you're wrong.

[3rdplanet]

Neurosis aren't Doom are they?

Very good though.

Bought a Corrosion of Conformity CD the other, so good.

I think I'm gonna go on a bigger stoner rock buying spree.

[Bartender]

Which CoC album did you get?

[Shred Danson]

I was to lazy to read every page in this thread but is there any one that's in to Blind dog, EYEHATEGOD, grand magus, Down, or crowbar. I consider these guys the real stoner/Doom metal bands, if there's one or more you have never heard of check em' out they kick alot of A S S.

I suggest you read the first few pages of the thread.

EYEHATEGOD, Down and Crowbar, as much as I like them, aren't doom. They're more of a harder southern rock genre. I describe them as Southern rock with a heavy metal sound. Corrosion of Conformity could fall into the same catergory; they fuse punk, metal, and southern rock into their music. What COC CD did you get, 3rdPlanet?



The 1st album was by far their best and rated r and songs for the deaf weren't bad. What i have heard of their stuff is pretty piss poor.

Yeah, I agree. I keep hearing people call this QOTSA's "second album" and it pisses me off. Most people who are into QOTSA nowadays probably haven't even HEARD rated R.

[Bartender]

Rated R is the only album of theirs I actually own. I never got into it that much, but it's alright.

[Shred Danson]

I'll tell you one thing, it's way better compared to Lullabies.

[Bartender]

Well I've not heard Lullabies.., so I couldn't say. I've heard the first one, and Songs for the Deaf thanks to friends and sister, though. Maybe just because I own it myself, but I preferred Rated R.

[Shred Danson]

I actually live in the city Josh Homme and Nick Oliveri were from. I point that out all the time, but hey...if somebody else lived in some famous band's hometown, I'm sure they'd point it out as well.

I still can't get over how much the drums suck on COC's "Stone Breaker".

[Crysiss]

i never heard of most of the bands mentioned lol

[Jon]

Here's a vintage JDZ song. 18 months ago I really sucked at guitar :(

(The Exodus)
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/9/fiendukmusic.htm

Doom enough?

[RockerGav]

Jondur: I listened to A Close Study, its very good. How much is your 3 track EP?

Also, can you reccommend some similar sounding Doom bands?

I really enjoyed the track by Gates of Slumber that you posted, and I downloaded a couple of Candlemass songs (Epicus Doomicus Metallicus and The Bells of Acheron), didn't really take too much to them (yes blashphemy, I know), probably because of the vocal style.

[3rdplanet]

Which CoC album did you get?

I bought Wiseblood, saw it going cheap so thought what the heck after having a few tracks downloaded may as well.

[Shred Danson]

Check out Deliverence and America's Volume Dealer. Good stuff by COC.

[Jon]

I like AVD :)

[Shred Danson]

I like AVD :)

That's probably my favorite by them.

[StandingStill]

Do cult of luna creep into the doom bracket? The new Candlemass album is pretty cool.

[Dancin' Man]

This should interest some of you. New Pelican review up on sputnik for the March into the Sea EP. You should all hear at least the title track. Also, check out Mare. Excellent band (I also wrote that review earlier this week)

[AA-12]

Can someone answer this:

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7804523&postcount=1621

[3rdplanet]

^ My Dying Bride? (not really a Doom metal band)

From my brief meeting with Doom bands, I have deduced that the genre name is compltley off, as most Doom bands are influenced by Sabbath, and just make plain good old funs tunes...or I may be wrong.

[AA-12]

But, Sabbath has one of the most dark/evil sounds.

[3rdplanet]

Black Sabbath = Supernaut.

About as dark as a banana.

[AA-12]

Listen to Black Sabbath - Black Sabbath, and some of their slow songs.

[thundercross]

I just whant to know if theres any one that has heard of blind dog or grand magus and what they think of them I love em' I wish there where more bands like them.

[Hammerheart]

reverend bizzare is my favorite doom band.

[RockerGav]

Jondur: I listened to A Close Study, its very good. How much is your 3 track EP?

Also, can you reccommend some similar sounding Doom bands?

I really enjoyed the track by Gates of Slumber that you posted, and I downloaded a couple of Candlemass songs (Epicus Doomicus Metallicus and The Bells of Acheron), didn't really take too much to them (yes blashphemy, I know), probably because of the vocal style.

I'd just like to bump this post.....

[Shred Danson]

Do cult of luna creep into the doom bracket? The new Candlemass album is pretty cool.

Cult of Luna...eh, I'm not sure. I've only heard one song by them (can't remember which one) but I thought it sucked anyway.

Is the new Candlemass album already out?

[Bartender]

It doesn't seem so. I can't find it for sale on places like Amazon, anyway.

I quite like Cult of Luna. They're not doom, though.

[RockerGav]

I know you're on Jondur.......:evil:

[Jondur]

I'm here. But I'm usually not here when I am, if you get what I mean. I log on but I'm usually working not actually surfing.

Sorry - your questions:

The "Different Ways to be Haunted" demo is available for £2.50 send me an email at jonathon_gibbs@hotmail.com

Bands you might like.... hmmm if it's the vocals of Candlemass you don't like well firstly you are a heathen but maybe try someone like Thee Plague of Gentlemen who have much more ballsier vox. Have a listen - but make sure you're sat down cos this will knock you down! http://users.pandora.be/istari/tpog/mp3/greekfire.mp3

The Gates of Slumber are ace, as are Orodruin, Revelation are one of my favourite bands. Try those and then get back to me.

[StandingStill]

Cult of Luna...eh, I'm not sure. I've only heard one song by them (can't remember which one) but I thought it sucked anyway.

Is the new Candlemass album already out?
Its out in the UK

[Shred Danson]

Its out in the UK

Ah, bullocks. Bullocks, I say. When will it be available in America? Late May?

[joe_fresh]

That thee plague of gentleman song is quality. As soon as i got more money i think i will buy it.

[Jondur]

Aye - the album is called Primula Pestis and I've been playing it non-stop since I got it at Doom Shall Rise.

[StandingStill]

Ah, bullocks. Bullocks, I say. When will it be available in America? Late May?
hahaha who knows!

[Bartender]

It seems to be available already on Amazon.com (as opposed to .co.uk).

[Dancin' Man]

OMG. Today Saturnus requested that I be their friend on myspace instead of me hunting them down to request an add. I must be popular in the e-music world.

Everyone should go listen to Subterranean Masquerade. A bit of a progressive symphonic doom super group.

Has anyone here heard Slumber? They released an EP that was a rerecording of their two demos. I suppose melodic doom is what to call them. Quite good but they have a tendency to get a littole old. Listen to Rapture if you can find it.

[Ride The Lightning]

I like a lot of stoner rock aka fuzz rock or whatever you want to call it. Kyuss, Fireball Ministry, QOTSA, Fu Manchu, and Black Sabbath who is pretty stoner rock even though there not really considered it.

[joe_fresh]

i've heard subterranean masquerade's ep Temporary pyschotic state. Have they done anyhting else, i am interested in hearing it.

On a different note, today after returning from college i found at my door, orodruins album epicruean mass. And what a classic. Everyone song is a great.

[Bartender]

i've heard subterranean masquerade's ep Temporary pyschotic state. Have they done anyhting else, i am interested in hearing it.


Not sure if they've done anything else prior to now, but they have an album due out within the next month or so.

[Jondur]

On a different note, today after returning from college i found at my door, orodruins album epicruean mass. And what a classic. Everyone song is a great.

Good job! I've been listening to the split they did with Reverend Bizarre. Such a great band. I'd kill to see them live. Put it this way they come across better than RB! Which is saying something!

[Jondur]

On a different note, today after returning from college i found at my door, orodruins album epicruean mass. And what a classic. Everyone song is a great.

Good job! I've been listening to the split they did with Reverend Bizarre. Such a great band. I'd kill to see them live. Put it this way they come across better than RB! Which is saying something!

[Jondur]

On a different note, today after returning from college i found at my door, orodruins album epicruean mass. And what a classic. Everyone song is a great.

Good job! I've been listening to the split they did with Reverend Bizarre. Such a great band. I'd kill to see them live. Put it this way they come across better than RB! Which is saying something!

[joe_fresh]

Has anyone here heard Slumber? They released an EP that was a rerecording of their two demos. I suppose melodic doom is what to call them. Quite good but they have a tendency to get a littole old. Listen to Rapture if you can find it.

I just listened to fallout which is on Slumber's site. Its pretty **** good.

[Dancin' Man]

I'll YSI a Slumber care package zip file containing Fallout and Rapture.

[Dancin' Man]

http://s40.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0UF2RVXORKX9W05A5OOPEPLCNL

There you go, Fallout and Rapture.

[94_Hours]

I love candlemass and My Dying Bride.

I own every MDB album 0_0 money well spent
I have "As The Flower Withers" and I would consider more black metal than Doom Metal

[Jondur]

It's more death metal really and not that representative of their later stuff. Of which Angel and the Dark River may be a good indication of their style.

Still doom death though.

At the moment I'm listening to While Heaven Wept: Chapter One. It's an anthology of all their work up to 1999. And it's really rather good. Not as polished as Of Empires Forlorn but the quality is still there.

[Dancin' Man]

Stopping in to metnion that October Tide are awesome. Is it a trend among doom bands to have months in their name? Novermber's Doom, October Tide... are there any more?

[joe_fresh]

http://s40.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0UF2RVXORKX9W05A5OOPEPLCNL

There you go, Fallout and Rapture.

Cheers. I love rapture, its amazing.

At the moment I'm listening to While Heaven Wept: Chapter One. It's an anthology of all their work up to 1999. And it's really rather good. Not as polished as Of Empires Forlorn but the quality is still there.

Yeah, its **** good, unfortunately thats all i own by them. In Aeturnum is probably my favourite song

Stopping in to metnion that October Tide are awesome. Is it a trend among doom bands to have months in their name? Novermber's Doom, October Tide... are there any more?

Ive heard of a band called september 12, but have not heard anything by them.

[Shred Danson]

Stopping in to metnion that October Tide are awesome. Is it a trend among doom bands to have months in their name? Novermber's Doom, October Tide... are there any more?

Wow, you've heard of November's Doom as well? They're awesome.

Anyway, I don't know about the doom bands-months trend, but if you look at it, all of those bands with certain months in their names have months that occur during Fall (or autumn or whatever you want to call it), which is a pretty gloomy time of the year. So if you think about it, those names are perfect for doom bands.

[Dancin' Man]

While December - February are black metal months. Dark and cold.

I want to know what Jon has to say about Slumber.

[Jondur]

I've never heard them. Maybe I'll try and download tonight (no-no to downloading at work!)

Hope you're all well.

[SK_Metalhead666]

My Dying Bride and Cult of Luna

[joe_fresh]

jondur, or anyone else, recommend me a new band (doom, that is), obviously not one which i, or anyone else has mentioned on this thread. cheers

[Jondur]

errr - I've forgotten who has and hasn't been mentioned! But try some of the following (sorry I can't upload anything anymore - Nazi work IT people!)

Warning - stole the show at doom shall rise, absolutely crushing!
Cambian Dawn - great St Vitus style doom.
Icefall - only did demos so good luck finding them!
Isole - used to be called Forlorn, ace melodic epic doom
Gorilla Monsoon - seriously - they sound like Thee Plague of Gentlemen.
Iron Hearse - UK band playing in a The Obsessed stylee
Iron Man - been going forever!

[joe_fresh]

i liked gorilla monsoon, the songs on their site are pretty good

isole are quality band, i own forevermore, its an amazing album

I shall have a look at the others later

[Hauntedman]

Only got into doom because of Sabbath, but am big fan of Cathedral, Electric Wizard and My Dying Bride. Can Iron Monkey be classed as doom or stoner metal?

BTW Cathedral seemed to follow Sabbath in every way. i.e. going a bit soft on some later albums before turning heavier again on Endtyme.

[Jondur]

Iron Monkey aren't doom really. They're more hardcore influenced, stick em next to EyehateGod.

Can highly recommend Orodruin to you though. Much better than Cathedral etc.

[joe_fresh]

anyone heard any memento mori, i picked up live, death and other morbid tales, la danse macabre and songs for the apocalypse the other day from a mate who didnt like them. They're pretty good, although the albums with messiah are the best, and the most doomy.

I also got the new candlemass album, its a good album.

[Jondur]

Joe - Can you upload some Memonto Mori? I've wanted to hear them for ages but never quite got round to it for some reason.

[joe_fresh]

Joe - Can you upload some Memonto Mori? I've wanted to hear them for ages but never quite got round to it for some reason.

sure, anything from any specific album?

[Jondur]

Tell you what - send me an email: jonathon_gibbs@hotmail.com and we'll do a couple of CDR trades? I'm sure I've got some out-of-print stuff that might be of interest to you.

[joe_fresh]

Tell you what - send me an email: jonathon_gibbs@hotmail.com and we'll do a couple of CDR trades? I'm sure I've got some out-of-print stuff that might be of interest to you.

its a good plan but my cd burner is shagged. Its been broke for nearly half a year, but have not got round to getting a new one. I shall try to get one this weekend, finances permitting.

Meanwhile, any memento mori you want specifically, or shall i just upload a few tracks from different albums?

[Jondur]

shall i just upload a few tracks from different albums?
That's the one :thumb:

[Grey Incision]

Hmmm. I'm new to the doom metal stuff. But from what i have heard, i really enjoy it.

Only heard

Swallow the sun-Deadly nightshade
All Isis stuff
Old Katatonia stuff, namely Brave

I know it is probably nothing at all, but if this is an indication of doom, i will like it. I just wanna hear, slower, drawn out tunes, with longer, drawn out demonic sounding growls :).

By the way, heard Kyuss, and i happen to think it's fairly dodge. so sorry to all stoner fans, but my opinions suck:(

[Jondur]

You want doom/death.

Look for Mourning Beloveth, Morgion, Evoken etc

[joe_fresh]

figured it would be easier to upload as one file, so here is a winrar file with:

memento mori from album songs for the apocalypse
heathendoom from life,death and other morbid tales
morpheus (my deadly friend) from la danse macabre
http://s10.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1WTOI7RRCFOIZ05LOXUKWECNQN

might upload more later

[Grey Incision]

You want doom/death.

Look for Mourning Beloveth, Morgion, Evoken etc

Hmm, i've requested some Funebrarum and Mourning beloveth in the YSI, had it requested for ages, but nobody's sent anything:(

[Phototropic]

*Listens to newly aquired The River EP* :cool:

[Mother]

Im just getting it\nto the Doom thing can anyone recomend some bands like 'Katatonia".

[Jondur]

It depends what era Katatonia you're talking about. "Brave Murder Day" era is a crabon copy of Paradise Lost "Gothic". "Tonights Decision" is probably closer to later Anathema in feel.

I wouldn;t say any of it was doom though.

Deadinlove: glad you got the CD. I hope you enjoy it.

[Phototropic]

Oh yeah

Some great stuff there :D

Cheers

[Grey Incision]

JOndur, any chance of uploading some mourning beloveth in YSI?

[Arise II]

Hey, you guys, check these two bans out.

http://www.sonsofotis.com/

http://centrifugemusic.tripod.com/index.html

I found these via stonerrock.com. I've just started to get heavily into stoner rock/metal (thankyouverymuchKyuss :) ) and these two bands are both frickin' awesome

[mick7]

My Dying Bride and Moonspell might be worth checking out for all the guys who are just getting into the doom metal scene.

[Jondur]

Grey Incision: Unlikely - I only really use the internet at work and there's loads of security things that mean unloading is probably not possible.

Mick7 - There's no doom in Moonspell. The first EP is a cracker though.

[joe_fresh]

what did you think of the memento mori jondur?

[Shred Danson]

I always thought of Moonspell as a melancholy-ish melodic death metal band.

[Jondur]

what did you think of the memento mori jondur?

Well I downloaded but I haven't had chance to listen yet because my PC doesn't know what a RAR file is. Apparently I have to download something to be able to listen to it.

[joe_fresh]

Well I downloaded but I haven't had chance to listen yet because my PC doesn't know what a RAR file is. Apparently I have to download something to be able to listen to it.

for winrar:
http://www.download.com/WinRAR/3000-2250_4-10350955.html?tag=lst-0-1

[Bartender]

Searched the thread and didn't find anything, so have any of you heard of Earthride? I just found a little synopsis about their debut album, and it sounds like it might be good;

"The debut album from this low-end shuddering new doom group led by SPIRIT CARAVAN bassist DAVID SHERMAN, who has too much energy for just one band. An abrasive and ugly, doom-ridden powerhouse of raw and nasty ultra-heavy rock thunder produced by CHRIS KOSLOWSKI (Pentagram, Spirit Caravan, Internal Void, Obsessed). Some heavy-*** ****."

[Phototropic]

I just got all the .mp3's of Mercurious Pools

The LIVE Kyuss album ;)

I'm ****ing loving it

[Patrick O)))]

I just got all the .mp3's of Mercurious Pools

The LIVE Kyuss album ;)

I'm ****ing loving it

Sendsendsendsendsendsendsend

[joe_fresh]

Searched the thread and didn't find anything, so have any of you heard of Earthride? I just found a little synopsis about their debut album, and it sounds like it might be good;

"The debut album from this low-end shuddering new doom group led by SPIRIT CARAVAN bassist DAVID SHERMAN, who has too much energy for just one band. An abrasive and ugly, doom-ridden powerhouse of raw and nasty ultra-heavy rock thunder produced by CHRIS KOSLOWSKI (Pentagram, Spirit Caravan, Internal Void, Obsessed). Some heavy-*** ****."

after reading that i went to the southernlord recording thingie site, and had a listen to an earthride song, its pretty **** good

[Jondur]

I thought this was worthy enough news to justify bringing this thread back from dead.....

The original Revelation "Salvations Answer" line up have got back together to form a new band Against Nature - hear some stuff here:

http://www.myspace.com/againstnature

Salvation's Answer line-up
John Brenner: guitar, vocals
Bert Hall: bass
Steve Branagan: drums

I've yet to hear it as MySpace is blocked at work but anything with this line up just cannot fail to be amazing!

[joe_fresh]

As promising as it sounds, i listened to the first song on MySpace and it wasnt really that good, but i shall listen to the others.

Seeing as im here i will recommened some new bands (well, new to me):

Porn (aka Men of Porn) with dale crover from melvins and billy anderson producer of bands like sleep, neurosis, orange goblin, cathedral. Quite hard to describe, sort of prog doom and strange in places.

YOB. Sort of like reverend bizarre crossed with electric wizard.

Warhorse. Similar to Thee Plague of Gentleman.

[ATM]

I just got my first Candlemass album. It's awesome.

[Arrakakaka]

Lucky you! Epicus Doomicus Metallicus still hasn't came in the mail :angry:

I am into alot of stoner and doom.

[Bartender]

YOB. Sort of like reverend bizarre crossed with electric wizard.


I picked up their The Illusion of Motion while I was away. I haven't had time to listen to it properly yet though.

[ween2424]

Crowbar
High on Fire
Clutch
Suplecs
Corrosion of Conformity
Alabama Thunderpussy
The Melvins
Eyehategod
Sixty Watt Shaman

Stoner/Doom is my favorite genre of music.

[Jondur]

But yet you haven't mentioned a single doom band?

Nice to see this thread back. I will use this opportunity to tell you about the Pentagram day I'm having today. I love this band. Got "Be Forewarned" on now and am amazed at the crushnity of the guitar sound.

[ween2424]

But yet you haven't mentioned a single doom band?

Nice to see this thread back. I will use this opportunity to tell you about the Pentagram day I'm having today. I love this band. Got "Be Forewarned" on now and am amazed at the crushnity of the guitar sound.
Crowbar is concidered 'doomcore' I don't know of alot of doom metal bands, but Crowbar is one of my favorite bands.

[Jondur]

Crowbar is concidered 'doomcore' I don't know of alot of doom metal bands, but Crowbar is one of my favorite bands.

There's no such thing and as far as I know Crowbar are considered Sludge in the same vein of EyeHateGod etc.

Yes they are a decent band but not for this topic. Here's soom doom bands:

Solstice
Millarca
Isole
St Vitus
Thee Plague of Gentlemen
Warning

[Stoic]

Please someone send me an Isen Torr song :(

[ween2424]

There's no such thing and as far as I know Crowbar are considered Sludge in the same vein of EyeHateGod etc.

Yes they are a decent band but not for this topic. Here's soom doom bands:

Solstice
Millarca
Isole
St Vitus
Thee Plague of Gentlemen
Warning
Eyehategod is sludge for sure. I've heard Crowbar concidered sludge. They call themselves "doomcore" on their website. They aren't like most sludge bands though. Their stuff is too tight. Thanks for the recomendations though. I'll be sure and check them out.

Would sludge just be concidered a heavy sub-genre of stoner metal? It seems like it to me.

[Jondur]

Please someone send me an Isen Torr song :(

I'd love to but I only have it on vinyl and can't transfer it. It is ace though - sounds (as you may expect considering who wrote the songs) like a more upbeat Solstice. Not doom at all - more NWOBHM but still great songs. It comes up on Ebay quite often - well worth spending the money on.

[Stoic]

I'd love to but I only have it on vinyl and can't transfer it. It is ace though - sounds (as you may expect considering who wrote the songs) like a more upbeat Solstice. Not doom at all - more NWOBHM but still great songs. It comes up on Ebay quite often - well worth spending the money on.

Thank you Jondur, I will keep an eye on it on ebay unless I see it somewhere else. I've heard very good things about this band and from the descriptions I think I'll like them.

[Jondur]

Its vinyl only btw. Limited to 600 copies and extremely good! Members of Solstice, Twisted Tower Dire, Ritual Steel and Falcon.

[Grey Incision]

Rigor Sardonicus

If anybody can tell me about them, Jondur can.....................can he?

[Jondur]

They're a funeral doom band. I have no interest beyond that.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

You wouldn't happen to have a top 10 essential Doom albums list like you do for Death Metal would you?

[ween2424]

Who here likes Clutch? I am a big fan. I have all their full length albums. I'm loving the new album 'Robot Hive/ Exodus' anyone else?

[Phototropic]

Who here likes Clutch? I am a big fan. I have all their full length albums. I'm loving the new album 'Robot Hive/ Exodus' anyone else?

Great band, I've heard a few songs and I've got that album :) Wouldn't mind getting hold of a few others, any you recommend?!

Dozer

:eek:

Anybody like this band?!

They are flippin great :) The singers voice is very distuingishable and the guitars tones are sexy and fuzzy :p

[ween2424]

Great band, I've heard a few songs and I've got that album :) Wouldn't mind getting hold of a few others, any you recommend?!

Dozer

:eek:

Anybody like this band?!

They are flippin great :) The singers voice is very distuingishable and the guitars tones are sexy and fuzzy :p
If you like Robot Hive you'll like 'Blast Tyrant' and 'Pure Rock Fury'

Their first album"Transnational Speedway League" is more on their metal side
Their s/t is kinda spacey funk metal
The "Elephant Riders" album has a jazz sense to it
and "Jam Room" is jam band-ish

I highly recommend seeing them live.

[iofsuicide]

If you like Robot Hive you'll like 'Blast Tyrant' and 'Pure Rock Fury'

Their first album"Transnational Speedway League" is more on their metal side
Their s/t is kinda spacey funk metal
The "Elephant Riders" album has a jazz sense to it
and "Jam Room" is jam band-ish

I highly recommend seeing them live.

I saw them live a few years ago when they were supporting Raging Speedhorn with Candiria, they kicked ***!

[Shred Danson]

I haven't gotten Robot Hive/Exodus yet...:(

They played mostly "Pure Rock Fury" songs at Sounds of The Underground....

[ween2424]

I saw them live a few years ago when they were supporting Raging Speedhorn with Candiria, they kicked ***!
Yeah, I saw them when they went on tour to support 'Blast Tyrant' last year. It was my first concert, and definately a good choice. I only had three of their albums at the time, I only recognized a few songs, but it was encredible. The energy they put off is amazing. Neil(their singer/my avatar) is such a beast when he sings.

[Kronos]

I'm totally new to this thread and don't know anything about the genre, but are Sabbath classed as doom metal by some people? Also, would Paradise Lost qualify for inclusion too?

[ween2424]

I'm totally new to this thread and don't know anything about the genre, but are Sabbath classed as doom metal by some people? Also, would Paradise Lost qualify for inclusion too?
Black Sabbath is not doom metal. They seem like stoner metal though.

[Bartender]

I'm totally new to this thread and don't know anything about the genre, but are Sabbath classed as doom metal by some people? Also, would Paradise Lost qualify for inclusion too?

Black Sabbath are like the godfathers of doom. Doom-in-waiting. Embryonic doom.

Where doom came from, basically, but not doom themselves.

[Nuke Broadcast]

Searched the thread and didn't find anything, so have any of you heard of Earthride? I just found a little synopsis about their debut album, and it sounds like it might be good;

"The debut album from this low-end shuddering new doom group led by SPIRIT CARAVAN bassist DAVID SHERMAN, who has too much energy for just one band. An abrasive and ugly, doom-ridden powerhouse of raw and nasty ultra-heavy rock thunder produced by CHRIS KOSLOWSKI (Pentagram, Spirit Caravan, Internal Void, Obsessed). Some heavy-*** ****."

ive had their stuff for a while now, and they arent lying, it IS ****ed good.

[ween2424]

I'm guessing Doom metal is extremely heavy detuned guitars and stuff like that? If it is I will love it.

I heard Candlemass tunes down to G.

[Jondur]

No. They tune to B as far as I know (I'm a drummer, sorry.) The River tuned down to A - I don't know of any bands going lower than that!

[Jondur]

I'm totally new to this thread and don't know anything about the genre, but are Sabbath classed as doom metal by some people?

It's an interesting one because yes the genre Sabbath sound most like is doom. But yet they were also the first heavy metal band but metal has moved away from Sabbath while doom has stayed the closest to the original Sabbath blueprint. So maybe doom is just heavy metal and all the other stuff is different?

Also, would Paradise Lost qualify for inclusion too?

Doom/death maybe. The first album is just slow death metal and bloody good at that! Gothic is closer to Celtic Frost's Into the Pandemonium and from then on they were more like a gothic Metallica!

Still love the first two albums though.

[Jondur]

You wouldn't happen to have a top 10 essential Doom albums list like you do for Death Metal would you?

I think I have done one in the past but I can't find it. So here's another. Note: It's not in order and it's not exhaustive.

Candlemass - Nightfall
Solitude Aeturnus - Through the Darkest Hour
St Vitus - V
Solstice - New Dark Age
Revelation - Yet So Far
Trouble - The Skull
Pentagram - Day of Reckoning
The Obsessed - Church Within
Penance - Spiritual Natural
Place of Skulls - With Vision

[Phototropic]

No. They tune to B as far as I know (I'm a drummer, sorry.) The River tuned down to A - I don't know of any bands going lower than that!

Electric Wizard tune down to G :)

Anybody like Dozer?!? :(

[ween2424]

No. They tune to B as far as I know (I'm a drummer, sorry.) The River tuned down to A - I don't know of any bands going lower than that!
Meshuggah tunes down to F. They're more tech metal than anything else though.

[Phototropic]

Meshuggah tunes down to F. They're more tech metal than anything else though.

On the 8-stringers isit? Thats insane, F must be gut busting

[ween2424]

On the 8-stringers isit? Thats insane, F must be gut busting
Yeah they use 8-strings, but I think theres another small string. They don't have a bass player anymore I don't think. Their guitars sond like a distorted twangy bass.

[CASTRO!]

CASTRO! plays doomey, grungey, bass and drum driven hard rock.
billed 'Mayfield's finest organic alternative rock band' and they live up to the name of the junkie capital of rock city. tho not actually junkies, the band definitely pump out the sludgey, smacked-out sound you'd associate with some of seattle's finest, with a healthy bit of tool thrown in for good measure.
hailing from rock city Newcastle, Australia, the boys have 11 mp3s up for free download on their website www.castroband.com , these are very early recordings, the band are currently working on a full length album for large scale distribution, which features much bigger guitars and fat grooving bass, driven by powerful percussion from Dave Tracey, one of the top youth drummers in the country, the album will be professionally mastered and feature a srting quartet on a song or two. keep an eye on www.castroband.com for breaking developments.

[the2stranger]

CASTRO! plays doomey, grungey, bass and drum driven hard rock.
billed 'Mayfield's finest organic alternative rock band' and they live up to the name of the junkie capital of rock city. tho not actually junkies, the band definitely pump out the sludgey, smacked-out sound you'd associate with some of seattle's finest, with a healthy bit of tool thrown in for good measure.
hailing from rock city Newcastle, Australia, the boys have 11 mp3s up for free download on their website www.castroband.com , these are very early recordings, the band are currently working on a full length album for large scale distribution, which features much bigger guitars and fat grooving bass, driven by powerful percussion from Dave Tracey, one of the top youth drummers in the country, the album will be professionally mastered and feature a srting quartet on a song or two. keep an eye on www.castroband.com for breaking developments.


:rolleyes:

I like my dying bride....

[Freezing Moon]

Jondur, you made the top 10 list for me when I asked in the Death Heads thread.

Here it is:
OK. You have to bear in mind that my tastes are quite restricted and this list will concentrate on old-school and epic doom.

In no particular order:

Solitude Aeturnus - Through the Darkest Hour (If you like Epicus then you'll love this)
Candlemass - Nightfall
Solstice - New Dark Age
St Vitus - V (I actually Prefer the self-titled debut but it's nigh on impossible to get hold of)
Trouble - The Skull
Pentagram - Day of Reckoning
Revelation - Frozen Masque
Penance - Spiritual Natural
The Obsessed - The Church Within
Count Raven - Destruction of the Void

As with the 'essential Death Metal albums' list this is a list of albums that I believe shaped the genre. They may not neccessarily be the best introduction to the genre.

If you like Epicus here are some other suggestions:

Isole - Forevermore
While Heaven Wept - Of Empires Forlorn

Other class albums:

Orodruin - Epicurean Mass
Reverend Bizarre - In the Rectory
The Gates of Slumber - The Awakening

[Doctor Night]

What is Doom Metal?

[the2stranger]

What is Doom Metal?

very slowed down heavy and attmospheric metal
often the guitars are downtuned.
the lyrics and the music create a very doom like feeling, hence the name :)

[ween2424]

Electric Wizard tune down to G :)

Anybody like Dozer?!? :(
I'm downloading "Freeloader" right now.

[Phototropic]

I'm downloading "Freeloader" right now.

Hooray :)

When I get some money I will get their album but I owe £400 :upset:

The songs I have are

Early Grace
Riding The Machine
The Hills Have Eyes
Twilight Sleep
Freeloader
Overheated
and
Let The **** Roll

:D

They all rock

[BeaZ]

I'm downloading "Freeloader" right now. :lol: How ironic.

[BryanJ]

What are some doom/stoner bands that change riffs alot. (In context of the genre of course, I am fairly sure there aren't any doom/stoner bands that change riffs every 5 seconds)

[Phototropic]

Kyuss
Dozer
Suns of Thunder
Electric Wizard

They change their riffs alot, great bands

[ween2424]

:lol: How ironic.
Not really, I saw where he asked that and I decided to search for them. Good song though.

[SSSnake...]

I'm totally new to this thread and don't know anything about the genre, but are Sabbath classed as doom metal by some people? Also, would Paradise Lost qualify for inclusion too?

Black Sabbath = proto doom

(early) Paradise Lost = death doom


*currently spinning

-Ramesses - The Tomb
-Khanate - Khanate
-Yob - The Unreal never Lived
-Tyranny - Tides of Awakening
-Grief - Dismal

[Arrakakaka]

God, YOB is supercalifragilistic.

[Metallion#666]

Does Corrosion of Conformity clasify as stoner metal?
They kick a ss.

[dodarmton]

what constitutes stoner metal??

is there a distinctive sound to it??? this is a serious question ive never heard that term used before.

[ween2424]

what constitutes stoner metal??

is there a distinctive sound to it??? this is a serious question ive never heard that term used before.
Mostly, it has raw, muddy sounding guitars with alot of feedback. Alot of groove to it, and an almost southern vibe to it.

That's just how I interpret it. Try searching it on Wikipedia.

[Flynn]

Does Corrosion of Conformity clasify as stoner metal?
They kick a ss.




I classify them as Hard Rock. But hey, if you like to get high and listen to them, I support that :D

[Bartender]

what constitutes stoner metal??

is there a distinctive sound to it??? this is a serious question ive never heard that term used before.

You could just go to http://www.stonerrock.com and read whatever they have written/listen to whatever they have available.

[Phototropic]

You could just go to http://www.stonerrock.com and read whatever they have written/listen to whatever they have available.

I was going to suggest that but you beat me to it

There is a great deal of articles, one specifically talking about Stoner Rock / Metal and its 'vibe'

:)

[Metallion#666]

I classify them as Hard Rock. But hey, if you like to get high and listen to them, I support that :D

I'm not a stoner, I just like metal.

[ween2424]

I'm not a stoner, I just like metal.
Same here, I never really understood where the name 'Stoner Metal' came from.

[Metallion#666]

Me either, Its good music though.

[ween2424]

For all you New Orleans metal fans--

Life after Hurrican Katrina:

Jimmy Bower(Eyehategod,Superjoint Ritual, Down,Crowbar) is now living in a trailer with his relatives along with Down bandmate Pepper Keenan(Corrosion Of Conformity, Down) and his family. Kirk Windstein(Crowbar, Down,Valume Knob) stayed in New Orleans when the hurricane hit, but left eventually. Phil Anselmo(Down, Pantera, Superjoint Ritual)'s home near New Orleans was not affected by the hurricane, and neither was his barn where the record 'Down 2' was recorded. On the downside,Mike Williams of Eyehategod is missing and no one knows where he is.

And to Down fans, they will be recording a 'Down 3' according to Jimmy Bower, and it is supposed to be angrier than their previous albums.

Why I'm posting this in here? Cause Down is stoner metal, and I figured it would be pointless to make a thread about it.

[Phototropic]

For anyone who hasn't heard Kyuss yet and is intrested in listening, I threw 2 songs onto a purevol account I don't use

http://www.purevolume.com/atarax

[munky_magik]

And to Down fans, they will be recording a 'Down 3' according to Jimmy Bower, and it is supposed to be angrier than their previous albums.

Oh my, I would love that to happen. I just don't think it ever will.
Got any sources?

[Bartender]

Didn't it take something like seven years just to get Down 2 made?

[munky_magik]

Didn't it take something like seven years just to get Down 2 made?
Something around that, yeah.

[repcak]

Can anyone upload some albums from good doom-metal (not stoner) bands?

i have only some anathema, my dying bride and thats it... i love doom-metal but i wanna check out some more! f.e.: katatonia

anyone an upload?

[ween2424]

Something around that, yeah.
Actually they lived in Phil's barn for a month, wrote and recorded everything. There was a seven year break between albums, because all the members were busy with their original bands. If you want to read the interview with Jimmy Bower, go to:

www.wickedcrossover.com
www.down-nola.com

It's on both of those.

[Mr. Ron]

Local band where I am.


Gunther Weezul :cool:

http://www.myspace.com/guntherweezul

[Converge_Cult]

Bongzilla!

[Converge_Cult]

i also saw Mare..with cursed..terror..and converge..they where really good..only me and a few 50 people where enjoying them...probably cause terror fans where there..ahaha

[Dark_Hero]

Corrosion of Conformity
Soilent Green
High on Fire
Buried at Sea
Neurosis
Bongzilla

[Taste_My_Scythe]

Clutch is awesome...my favorite song is Subtle Hustle. Very catchy.

[Phototropic]

Local band where I am.


Gunther Weezul :cool:

http://www.myspace.com/guntherweezul

I had a listen

Not too bad, really heavy

But the vocal style gets tiring quickly :(

Dang original though

[ween2424]

Clutch is awesome...my favorite song is Subtle Hustle. Very catchy.
Clutch is one of my favorite bands of all time. They are incredible live. Especially their singer Neil (on my avatar). He's just an incredible ball of energy. Listen to the entire 'Blast Tyrant' album if you like that song. Every song on there is equally catchy.

[Jondur]

Can anyone upload some albums from good doom-metal (not stoner) bands?

i have only some anathema, my dying bride and thats it... i love doom-metal but i wanna check out some more! f.e.: katatonia

anyone an upload?

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9811456&postcount=43

No albums though.

[Arrakakaka]

I'm keeping doom alive by bumping this :)

God, I just got Nightfall from Candlemass. It owns everything.

[deathscreamingsheep]

Can someone explain to me what doom metal actually is. I understand it's supposed to be slow etc but I dunno much else. Are the vocals clean or screamed or what? Is the music blues influenced much (I hear doom metal bands seem to be all Black Sabbath fans)?

[repcak]

Black Sabbath self-titled album is referred as the "birth" of doom metal... but it has nothing in common with the doom-sound, though.

Some Doom-bands uses harsh vocals, others don't. For me (sorry i am not an expert, so correct me if i am wrong) is very slow, sad and depressive music. There is even a subcategorie of doom-metal, called funeral-metal.

The best thing is to try out early Anathema (serenades, A silent enigma) or My Dying Bride... SunO))) is an extreme example for a doom-metal-band (the slowest band in the world, if you believe what ppl say...)

[SSSnake...]

Can someone explain to me what doom metal actually is. I understand it's supposed to be slow etc but I dunno much else. Are the vocals clean or screamed or what? Is the music blues influenced much (I hear doom metal bands seem to be all Black Sabbath fans)?

Go to www.doom-metal.com and there should be a big explanation somewhere about the history of it

[Jondur]

doom-metal.com is gay. Full of people asking if Autopsy or Opeth are doom. They're not.

Black Sabbath "Black Sabbath" has everything to do with the doom sound. All proper doom bands have that reference to their sound. Basically doom started with bands like Pentagram in the 70's then St Vitus, Trouble, The Obsessed, Candlemass in the 80's and then Solitude Aeturnus, Solstice, While Heaven Wept, Forlorn etc in the 90s.

The flag is still being held high by bands like The Gates of Slumber, Orodruin, Reverend Bizarre, Thee Plague of Gentlemen, Rising Dust, Warning, The River etc etc

MDB, Anathema etc just took the epicness of Candlemass and added it to slow death metal. That makes death/doom not doom.

[Shred Danson]

Is Electric Wizard any good? I haven't heard much from them...

EDIT: Whoops, huge bump.

GMac, I guess the reason you had trouble finding this thread was because it's usually pretty inactive... :( last post was on October 13th, so yeahhhh...

[xizoesira]

Stoner Doom is very hit and miss with me.

To Answer ICB - Electric Wizard is the good. Check out Dopethrone and We Live.

[Shred Danson]

Stoner Doom is very hit and miss with me.

To Answer ICB - Electric Wizard is the good. Check out Dopethrone and We Live.

Will do when I get home, now that I got soulseek...(is a closet music pirate).

[Phototropic]

Dopethrone is a frickin masterpiece, even though I don't listen to anything else from that genre, it really is listenable all the way through

I have self-titled and Come my fanatics, I find them too dizzy after a while....waaaaaay too sludgy for me :(

[guitarded_chuck]

Wow, Candlemass are awesome. I think I'm going to like this genre a lot.

[RiceMonster]

I've recently been getting into Doom. Katatonia kicks ***, and that Isole album Freezing Moon sent out recently is awesome as well.

[Vortigon]

Well, I like some death/doom, and I like Electric Wizard/Sloth style doom. But the only bands Jondur mentions that I like are Pentagram, St Vitus and TPOG.

[BassCozzy]

Has anyone heard totimoshi? i really want their self titled album and knowone seems to them.

And with stoner rock
A lot of bands get classed as stoner cuz of the fuzz and wah effects on their guitar,That's usually what they have in common.

What my dying bride songs do you reccomend?I ignored them because their name sounds Emo lol

and also anyone heard Sheavy?but think their great but they sound slightly to influenced by Sabbath,and when i say slightly thats an understatement

[xizoesira]

Anyone know Church of Misery?

They're more Stoner and less Doom - not Doom at all, really - but they're excellent. Imagine Electric Wizard if Electric Wizard were Japanese and groovy as **** all.

[Jondur]

But the only bands Jondur mentions that I like are Pentagram, St Vitus and TPOG.

How many of the bands I mentioned have you heard? I see no reason why you wouldn't like The Gates of Slumber for example.

[Jondur]

that Isole album Freezing Moon sent out recently is awesome as well.

You really should buy it if you liked it. Ola from I hate Records works really hard to release great doom bands. He won't be able to do it if people don't actually buy the records.

Loads of great stuff on that label - The Gates of Slumber, Burning Saviours, Centurion's Ghost.

[Vortigon]

Anyone know Church of Misery?

They're more Stoner and less Doom - not Doom at all, really - but they're excellent. Imagine Electric Wizard if Electric Wizard were Japanese and groovy as **** all.
Despite the fact that on the back of their album it says "We hate trend, we hate corporate attitude, we hate the word 'stoner', death to false stoners! LET THERE BE DOOM" and the fact they sound like heavy sabbath with gruff vocals :confused:

[xizoesira]

Despite the fact that on the back of their album it says "We hate trend, we hate corporate attitude, we hate the word 'stoner', death to false stoners! LET THERE BE DOOM" and the fact they sound like heavy sabbath with gruff vocals :confused:

Yeah, despite that.

I haven't seen their actual album, so I haven't read what they have to say with their broken English, and they sounded to me like EW. Got a problem?

[Vortigon]

No, not at all. I just thought I'd point out they reject the idea of being a "stoner" band. And they don't sound that much like EW. But all the same, yes I've heard them and I like them.

[xizoesira]

Yeah, I suppose they don't sound a lot like EW, but they struck me less as doom because when I think of doom I think slow, slow music, most of which doesn't capitalize on being groovy.

[Poofy 666]

just got Candlemass' new CD and its awsome

[ween2424]

Does any body else love Clutch as much as me?

[Bartender]

Probably not. I do like them, though.

[Arrakakaka]

just got Candlemass' new CD and its awsome
I find it extremely boring and uninspired.

[Epicurus]

High on Fire is pretty awesome.

[Jondur]

I find it extremely boring and uninspired.

Do you like any Candlemass? I think the new one has some excellent moments - Copernicus and Seven Silver Keys for example. And it's easily Messiah's best performance yet.

[Bartender]

Jondur, did you notice that a certain Messiah made it into the Top 100 Vocalists thing that's going on at the moment?

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=411036

Only just scraped in, but still made it.

[Jondur]

Cool. Only doom metal singer on there though which is bad when you consider the number of great siners in the genre:

Rob Lowe (Solitude Aeturnus)
Tom Philips (While Heaven Wept)
Moz Ingram (Solstice)
Simon Matravers (ex-Solstice)
Stoy (Seer's Tear)
Scott Reagers (St Vitus)

etc etc

[Phototropic]

Heres an old interview with Teh Wizard!!! :)

(http://vibrationsofdoom.com/issues/doom21.htm)

so if there's any mistakes, don't blame me

ELECTRIC WIZARD. Interview with Jus Osborn. Probably one of the most interesting email interviews I have ever done, I had the results mailed back to me from England, wherein resides one rather angry group of musicians. I guarantee you've never heard doom metal as ferocious and pissed off as this three piece, and the interview below will reveal some of the reasons for their hostility.

As our readers know, your newest album "Come My Fanatics" has been re-released along with the first album remixed. Why was the decision made to offer this as a 2 CD set and why did you feel the need to remix the first album? What was done differently on the re-release?

We re-released "Come My Fanatics" because the first time it was released the distribution company went bust about 2 weeks after it came out, so hardly any copies made it into the stores, which was totally annoying because we got all these amazing reviews but nobody could find a copy. The 2 CD set was the idea of the new distributors and we thought it was kinda cool because it would come out as the price of a single disc. Also we got a chance to release the original Electric Wizard mix of the first album. This is the original rougher, heavier mix that we did in the studio but was originally rejected by Rise Above and remixed by Paul Johnson. But now Rise Above have realized that the Wizard are the only ones who decide what mix to use.

Making an observation then, between the first and second albums it sounds almost entirely like a different band. Were there things done on the first album that you didn't want to repeat the second time around? Lots of the guitar riffs on "Come My Fanatics" were much heavier and more distorted, is this the result of the band trying to attain a different sound?

I don't really know what happened, maybe we got too ****ed up! Though the first album was mostly crappy old songs from my first band but "Come..." was 100 percent Wizard. Also on the first album we had it all rehearsed before we went into the studio but on the second one we decided to record it all live and write the songs and jam them out in the studio. I think we were also very screwed with drug abuse, on the first day we couldn't find Mark so we had to drive all over trying to find him and some of his mates said he was lost on acid somewhere but we found him in the woods and he was just messy. So we dragged him down to the studio to record his parts which led to all three of us going on a three day binge of acid, grass, speed and vodka, these three days produced all the basic tracks for the album and has now become the routine for all Wizard recording sessions. We always wanted to be the heaviets and loudest band in the world but not in some cliched way, but a genuine outpouring of total doom and hate.

I noticed that several songs are played slower on the second disc than on the first one. In an interview I did with Sleep some years ago, they said it was a lot harder to play slower live than at regular speed. Do you find this to be true, and what is an Electric Wizard live show like?

To most people's horror we play even slower live. I love totally crushing riffs live if you hold the notes long enough you get this kinda massive swell which threatens to crack the venue walls. I remember seeing Candlemass when I was younger and I was just amazed at how awesome the slow riffs sounded, it seemed like a sonic deathray! Yeah, it is harder to play slower live but it just proves we can play better than everyone else. The main thing that surprises people is that we don't play the tracks the same way as on the album, which no other bands do but when you listen to all the old seventies bands they used to jam out the songs for hours because they were so shot on drugs which we are as well. The better the drugs the better the concert! And it is true that sometimes we don't play if we can't score any decent weed. An Electric Wizard show is baiscally unpredictable, but always very heavy. Sometimes people say we come across like a punk band because of our attitude on stage because we don't pu on a proper rock show, so because of our reputation we get punks, metallers, skaters and all sorts of freaks at our gigs. Do you remember the British punk band Doom? They always came to our gigs because they think we kill live with no rock star poses. We did a gig with Chaos U.K. once and they were pissed off because all their punk fans thought we kicked their old punk asses, ha ha!

Many of your songs tend to be quite lengthy, which is perfect for the stoner that wants to concentrate on the sounds, do you feel that only stoners can appreciate a long tune? Personally, if a song has great instrumentation the longer it gets the more I get to enjoy the music. Especially with Hacienda, their instrumental songs are written so well I almost never want them to end! Going way back, the Beatles did that same thing with the endless riffs on 'I Want You (She's So Heavy)' from their Abbey Road album.

I agree. Our songs are so long because we're so stoned when we play them. I think it's definitely a stoner/drug thing because straights think we're too boring and too slow but only dopers come to our gigs now and they love to hang out for hours on extended 20 minute jams. When we rehearse we just play hour long jams and the more it goes on the more you become lost in the music until eventually reality ceases to exist and only the Wizard is real and life is gone. Death to reality!

Speaking of the herb though, there wasn't much mention of the green leaf in any of the songs. As many of our readers know, we here at V.O.D. are very pro- hemp and we were curious about what good herb is floating around at the time? Do you prefer using the bong, pipe, or papers, and what do you guys think of High Times Magazine? Also, on the latest Iron Monkey CD, some guys mentioned that some English people couldn't grow very good pot because of the climate; something to do with lots of cold and dreary days (though I assume they were also half joking). Care to put any of thoe rumours to rest?

The Wizard only smokes the finest homegrown Dorset buds. We grow our own dope under lights so we always have fat buds! Iron Monkey are stupid northeners who can't grow decent weed, ha ha! The south of England produces very fine weed, come over for a smoke sometime and find out! We prefer to use the righteous bong and we NEVER mix it with tobacco as has been rumoured by some American bands, also we use various hardcore devices such as "The Waterfall," "The Lung" and the universally reknown "Bucket." Various bands have tried to challenge us at toking but we always kill those wimpy fags, I've seen Orange Goblin fall to the floor many a time we stoned them up hard! Only Brutal Truth could keep up with us, it's wierd because all these bands in England call themselves stoner rock but they don't even smoke any pot! High Times has some cool growing tips but I don't like the wimpy hippy stuff. They should do a Sleep special every month!

I was curious as to some of your influences, besides the obvious Black Sabbath, on the music you make? I did hear a slight Louisiana sound in the vein of Eyehategod and Crowbar so I was wondering if there were any other styles of music you were into? Also, I'd like to get your reaction on a couple of other bands in this genre, namely Iron Monkey, Roachpowder, and my all time favorites Hawkwind.

We love all heavy and original music, the Louisiana bands too. Electric Wizard's favorite bands are Sabbath, Saint Vitus, Blue Cheer, Celtic Frost, Witchfinder General, Sleep, Darkthrone, Jimi Hendrix, The Who, Cream, Slayer, Pentagram, Bathory, Trouble, Earth, Burning Witch, the Melvins, etc. Basically anything that stops the voice in my head which tells me to do bad things. Iron Monkey totally rock and we got trashed with those dudes a few times but they've split up now. I might be doing some project stuff with the drummer soon like the slowest band ever or something. I don't know of Roachpowder so I can't say anything. As for Hawkwind, I love their early stuff with Lemmy but the later stuff is gay. But they are kind of an institution in England and everyone goes and sees them live, they're still cool live and everyone in the crowd shares their drugs around and it's a great party like in the 60's. I've seen them about 6 times.

'Mountains Of Mars' was a beautiful instrumental, but there doesn't seem to be any other styles like this on any of your other albums that I've heard. Was that a one shot thing or will we hear more mellow stuff like this on future works? Speaking of those, are there any plans for a new album and what might it be like? Tell us what type of bands you consider to be perfect bands to listen to "under the influence."

We do a lot of mellower jams at rehearsals but it seems we are always pissed and have a negative attitude when we're in the studio. I think it's kind of a myth that when you're stoned you want to listen to wimpy Led Zeppelin crap, I hate it. We listen to Bathory and Darkthrone even on acid! If I want to relax I prefer ambient music to acoustic stuff. We will record a more mellow track if we think it's appropriate, if it makes you feel like you're lost on some screwed up alien world NOT look at the lovely flowers they're so trippy man... UUUGGHH! Our new album will be called "Dopethrone" and we are working on it now! It's gonna be the heaviest and most original stoner doom album ever recorded in human history! We guarantee that even if you've never taken drugs you'll experience the baddest trip of your miserable life! Electric Wizard are the perfect band to listen to under the influence, if you can handle it!

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[Phototropic]

...Continued from the last post

Finally, any chance you will tour the States? And also, I noticed being on Lee Dorrian's label (from Cathedral fame) your first album artwork looked strikingly similar to a few of Cathedral's and the Lake Of Tears album "Crimson Cosmos." Is it that this artist only does album covers for those doing doom metal or trippy psychedelic music?

We are going to tour the U.S. very soon, it's our total dream! It will probably be with Goatsnake as we did an awesome British tour with them and we really got along well. It was a great show for the fans because we're both total doom live but in a different way. Also, we heard American chicks are suckers for English accents! We used the same artist as Cathedral on the first album but we were sick when we saw it because it's totally weak hippy crap, we asked for a huge dragon dripping blood with naked chicks and stuff like the cover of "Savage Sword Of Conan" or something, not that stuff. I mean she hasn't even got her tits out and there's a queer dolphin on it! (Luckily this is cut off on the re-release). Since then we've used our own stuff! Check out the new "Supercoven" CD on Southern Lord Records out now with new tracks and cover art for the U.S. only. It is SOOOO heavy! If you're into Death, Black, Doom, Stoner, Punk, whatever we guarantee you will get on your knees and pray to the Wizard!

Hope you enjoy it

Sorry for the double post, I wanted to fit it all in, please don't ban me

[Werny]

The Wizard's magic needs to reach more places, I CAN'T FIND THEIR DARN CD'S.

I tell ya... I've never taken any drugs of any kind, I am but a young lad, and the song Supercoven just puts me on a trip everytime I hear it. It's amazing.

And I missed out on seeing them because I have nowhere to stay in Melbourne. GRRR.

ALL HAIL THE WIZARD.

NP: Wizard in Black - Electric Wizard

EDIT: Oh, forgot to mention, thanks for the interview Phototropic. Everytime I read an interview or listen to a song by the Wizard it's like... "why do I have to be morally objected to weed. Stupid morals." Legends.

[Dark_Hero]

Bongzilla
High on Fire
Eyehategod
Electric Wizard
Dystopia
Coffins
Thrones
Datura
Sleep
My Dying Bride
Neurosis
Black Sabbath
Sunn 0)))
Khanate
Autopsy
Saint Vitus
old Obituary

[Poofy 666]

what Sunn 0))) cd should i buy?

[Phototropic]

what Sunn 0))) cd should i buy?

Black One got 5/5 but I duno, I ain't into them

[Werny]

Bongzilla
Electric Wizard
My Dying Bride
Black Sabbath


\m/ Only bands I've heard on that list there man, I should hear some more... *goes to stonerrock.com*

Especially Electric Wizard and Bongzilla... yeah man \m/

[Jawaharal]

I need....

I am vengance soundtrack
Alabama Thunderpussy- Staring At The Divine
Drunk Horse- In Tounges
The Mystick Krewe Of Clearlight-S/T

[Werny]

Alabama Thunderpvssy (that v is a u, folks) seem cool.

Are any of you guys regulars at stonerrock.com? I spend whole periods at school sitting there listening to songs on their mp3 jukebox. Good times, good times.

[RiceMonster]

what Sunn 0))) cd should i buy?
White 2 or Flight of the Behemoth.

[Freezing Moon]

White 2 or Flight of the Behemoth.
White 2 is my favorite.

[Poofy 666]

i put both of those on my christmas list :)

[RiceMonster]

White 2 is my favorite.
Me too. Hell-O)))-Ween is my favorite song from them. I LOVE Atilla's vocals is Decay 2 as well.

[WhoresOfTijuana]

Stoner rock is happy, clappy, groovy music. It often has a "southern" feel to it. Check out Kyuss fora text book example.


Hahh what part of the song Son of a Bitch is happy or clappy?

Kyuss is as angry as bands came


-- ad YOB's new album to the doom list

[TemperamentalGoat]

what Sunn 0))) cd should i buy?

I like flight of the behemoth. Famous noise-dude merzbow makes some neat contributions to it with a pleasantly varied sound.

Do you guys prefer your doom with clean vocals or harsh? Generally, I'm a fan of clean, but there's something very imposing about slow, sludging riffs mixed with bear-ish, isis-like vocals.

[Vortigon]

Hahh what part of the song Son of a Bitch is happy or clappy?

Kyuss is as angry as bands came


-- ad YOB's new album to the doom list
His point is that doom isn't supposed to be happy, the opposite in fact, and therefore as a doomster stoner rock does nothing fo him. Kyuss isn't all that angry, not when compared to early Cathedral and the like.

[Nuke Broadcast]

Do you guys prefer your doom with clean vocals or harsh? Generally, I'm a fan of clean, but there's something very imposing about slow, sludging riffs mixed with bear-ish, isis-like vocals.

i like both, but i tend to like clean more. the rough vocals grate on me after a time, and i have to turn them off.

[Deconstruction]

i like both, but i tend to like clean more. the rough vocals grate on me after a time, and i have to turn them off.
I like almost vocal-less sometimes like Sunn but the occasional chanting is intresting.

[A_Guy]

Speaking of Kyuss, whatever happened to that Josh Homme mailing list Phototropic?

[Det_Nosnip]

I dunno where exactly Paradise Lost falls into the whole thing...their first 4 or 5 albums were pretty doomish, eh? (well, first 3 were death-doom, but I'm mostly referring to Icon and Draconian Times). I actually just got my hard copy of Draconian Times in the mail...amazing album.

[Werny]

Do you guys prefer your doom with clean vocals or harsh? Generally, I'm a fan of clean, but there's something very imposing about slow, sludging riffs mixed with bear-ish, isis-like vocals.

All depends on the music, but generally it makes no difference for me. Bongzilla sound so awesome with the black metal vocals, and then you get Electric Wizard with the clean vocals with that weird effect over them. The overall effect is the same, really.

Then you have My Dying Bride, who switch between growling and clean whining. Both are as effective as the other.

So yeah, depends on the music for me.

[Phototropic]

Speaking of Kyuss, whatever happened to that Josh Homme mailing list Phototropic?

I'll get right on it

If I can find the thread

hxxp://s53.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3QLOG5AXNTNWJ2IV7JT4104HOT

I think its out of print so I hope its ok to post it here

[A_Guy]

What do you open .rar files with?

[Phototropic]

Winrar

[A_Guy]

Where could i download that?

[Phototropic]

Type it on google, should be somewhere

[magicbus]

Ok guys, I downloaded Kyuss's Blues for the Red Sun. While I'm really digging the heavy guitar (like on Writhe), the vocals aren't my kind of thing. I suppose I could get used to them, but until then can somebody recommend some more stuff with that heavy distorted, sluggish guitar?

[Jondur]

Hahh what part of the song Son of a Bitch is happy or clappy?

Kyuss is as angry as bands came



You see, what you're missing there is the value of a full stop. They separate sentences so different points can be made. Reread the quote - stoner is too happy clappy (read groovey). FULL STOP. It often has a 'southern feel', see Kyuss as a text book example. Anyway Stoner doesn't have the feel of despair etc that doom has. It has a happy feel - I don't care whether the lyrics are happy or not - the music is.

Re clean vs growled. Well Growls have no place in doom. Compare the majesty of Rob Lowe from Solitude Aeturnus to Aaron Stainthorpes whining.

[Jondur]

Bongzilla
Autopsy

old Obituary

Eh? For the last time - slow does not equal doom. Obituary and Autopsy are death metal bands. In the case of Autopsy, the best death metal band ever.

NP Pentagram - Be Forewarned

[Stoic]

A quick post to whore Doomsword \m/ :D

[Freezing Moon]

In the case of Autopsy, the best death metal band ever.
:nods:

Been listening to a lot of Doom lately. Some of my favorites have been...

Candlemass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus, Nightfall
Isole - Forevermore
Penance - Spiritualnatural
St. Vitus - Born Too Late, V
Thee Plague of Gentlemen - Primula Pestil

Now Playing: Candlemass - Solitude

[Stoic]

Isole - Forevermore <3 I getting this one soon! :D

[Freezing Moon]

Isole - Forevermore <3 I getting this one soon! :D
Yes, it's a great album.

[Poofy 666]

Yes, it's a great album.
I second that motion.

I like my doom with growls, but it depends more on the band and how they sound

[Freezing Moon]

For most Doom I prefer clean vocals.

For stuff like Doom/Death and Funeral Doom though, there has to be growls. That stuff isn't as good as the Traditional/Epic though, in my opinion.

[Werny]

Ok, question from moi, again with the Wizard;

I'm gradually downloading Dopethrone (don't judge me, Mum won't let me purchase anything online), and I got a version of the title track which is 10:35. But the one on the album is reportedly 20:48. It's not cut off or anything, it's a full proper song, and it has the correct lyrics. I dunno.

Anyways best song so far is probably... ack dammit I can't decide. It's surprising that stoner bands like the Wizard and Bongzilla are such gifted songwriters.

[Freezing Moon]

The version I have is the 20 minute one, and I have a downloaded copy also.

[Werny]

The version I have is the 20 minute one, and I have a downloaded copy also.

I see. Hmm... is there a hidden track or something? The person I downloaded it off might've cut the last 10 minutes off 'cause it's a hidden track or something.

Sorry about being stubborn but I have dial-up, the 20 minute version, at the quality I want, is like 40 megs. Would take hours.

[Freezing Moon]

Have you tried to get your local CD store to order it for you?

[Werny]

I've got two local stores, neither of them have heard of it. Where's the second hand/import stores when you need them? You'd think a cruddy town like mine would have one. Stupid Australia.

It's not just Dopethrone I'm PO'ed about not being able to get. There's all the other Wizard records, Bongzilla, Sunn 0)))... daum. At least all Cathedral is available around here (although I ordered Forest of Equilibrium about 3 months ago and it still hasn't come in... once again, stupid Australia).

[Jondur]

There's actually a doom band called The Wizard from Tasmania - I've only heard one track but was good stuff.

Freezing Moon: I applaud your excellent taste. Here's another recommendation - The Gates of Slumber. If you like Vitus and TPOG then I reckon you'll love TGOS. Go get!

[Freezing Moon]

Freezing Moon: I applaud your excellent taste. Here's another recommendation - The Gates of Slumber. If you like Vitus and TPOG then I reckon you'll love TGOS. Go get!

:D

I've got a Vitus album coming to me in the mail right now. I would also order TPoG, but it would take a couple of months to get here off of Amazon so for now I have to deal with mp3's.

Will check out The Gates of Slumber, thanks. :)

Now Playing: Master's Hammer - Bad Modly

____________
EDIT:
For anyone else who wants to check them out;
Hellride Records (http://www.hellridemusic.com/) seems to be the only place that carries their albums in the US. Some other distro has them in Europe.

Here's (http://www.hellridemusic.com/audio/gos_brokenonthewheel.mp3) an mp3 on the Hellride site from their album The Awakening.

They sound great. :)

[A_Guy]

Check this out!

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1519071/20051221/queens_stone_age.jhtml?headlines=true

During a recent QOTSA concert, John Garcia came up during the encore and peformed Thumb, Hurricane, and Supa Scoopa and the Mighty Scoop with QOTSA. I wish i was there so bad. If Kyuss ever does a reunion tour, ill **** myself out of excitement.

[joe_fresh]

Just discovered a new band (new to me) called Confessor. I looked them up on metal-archives, and they described them as technical doom metal, so i found their first album. Its very good, similar to solitude aeturnus but with meshuggah-style off beat drumming. Anyone else heard of them? I am not so keen on their newer material, but Condemed is a fantastic album.

[Phototropic]

Check this out!

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1519071/20051221/queens_stone_age.jhtml?headlines=true

During a recent QOTSA concert, John Garcia came up during the encore and peformed Thumb, Hurricane, and Supa Scoopa and the Mighty Scoop with QOTSA. I wish i was there so bad. If Kyuss ever does a reunion tour, ill **** myself out of excitement.

I've got the audio of the concert, and the video of hurricane

It's nothing special

If Kyuss got back together it would kill them, the point of them splitting up was to preserve what greatness they had ;)

[Werny]

I downloaded all of Dopethrone;

HOOOLY CRAAAP.

Is all I can say. Weird Tales is hardcore.

[A_Guy]

I've got the audio of the concert, and the video of hurricane

Could you send it to me? iamacoolguy@gmail.com thanks.

[vashts80]

Reverend Bizarre is the only doom metal I've heard and I like it. And early Katatonia. Recommend some more.

[Phototropic]

Could you send it to me? iamacoolguy@gmail.com thanks.

Its 588 MB with 24 Flac files

Dream on

If you want it badly go look on the Rekords rekords forums

[shamed-angel]

Has anyone here heard Bumsnogger? One of the best Doom metal bands I've ever heard. Period.

[Phototropic]

Has anyone here heard Bumsnogger? One of the best Doom metal bands I've ever heard. Period.

Worst name ever :lol: Is there any audio flying around?