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pate
04-04-2007, 09:25 AM
Electronic kit as in the full kits, or the little pads?

the2stranger
04-04-2007, 09:29 AM
(cheap) softsynths and programmed drums are a good thingto get the outline of song.
But you always loose the dynamics, which is really ashame.
Tha's also why I'm not really fond of triggers.

But then again, some bands like Darkspace can get away with programmed drums, but that's not really the kind of music that fits in to your sound Pate.

The electronic kit is a good recommendation though.
Or program drums and run them through the Drumkit from Hell program.
The samples there are also really good, one of thebest programmed drums I've ever heard.

Daven
04-04-2007, 10:47 AM
Or just learn to play the drums, like the most basic rhythms. It's not so hard.

Iron Bars
04-04-2007, 10:51 AM
Or just learn to play the drums, like the most basic rhythms. It's not so hard.

My brother is thinking about buying an old drumkit.

What program do you use for the drums now Pate?

pate
04-04-2007, 01:32 PM
GuitarPro >_>

Shattered_Future
04-04-2007, 01:54 PM
lolz.

I use DKFH samples, but I need to learn how to utilize more of them. As is, I usually have the drum sounds at one intensity. I need to learn how to utilize the softer and harder hits instead of just using one hit.

I can play drums...kinda. Not well enough for what I want to do though. That, and I don't have a decent way to mic my drums.

heavy metal kid
04-04-2007, 02:03 PM
So, I'm starting a Stoner/Doom/Progressive band.

This is a hughe change for me, I've always played Death Metal, Technical Death and Thrash.

This idea came to my mind when I realized that there wasn't any Stoner or Doom bands in my hometown, so I like to deliver something new and experimental.

The band consist in:

Me: Bass, Vocals, Keyboards, Additional Guitars, Synths.
My friend: Guitar, Drums.

My friend is a really talented guitarist, but he only plays thrash so this is new to him, but we are gonna start playing music I wrote.

pate
04-04-2007, 04:31 PM
Mike: What program do you use the DKFM in? Please don't say FL.

Shattered_Future
04-04-2007, 07:19 PM
Mike: What program do you use the DKFM in? Please don't say FL.

Drumkit From Mars? Drumkit For Men? :p

I use Garageband. Which is helpful to the other 3 people on the whole forum who use Macs as well. :smash:

pate
04-04-2007, 07:56 PM
lol typo

Damn. I hate Fruity Loops. I'd prefer to use the DKFH through GP, but that doesn't work. :(

Shattered_Future
04-04-2007, 08:24 PM
I dunno, my friend has Fruity Loops and you can do some pretty good stuff with that program. It's kinda hard to use, but once you learn it works well.

ATM
04-04-2007, 08:29 PM
Fruity Loops is pretty sweet.

pate
04-04-2007, 08:29 PM
I don't think it's hard to use, it's just very rigid, whereas with GP I can do whatever rhythms and note durations I want.

Shattered_Future
04-04-2007, 09:00 PM
Yeah, that was a problem I had too. Fruity Loops is mad rigid.

I am listening to Senmuth right now. Very cool. It's labeled as "instrumental ethnic doom metal". Whatever the hell that means.

Phototropic
04-05-2007, 07:04 AM
So, I'm starting a Stoner/Doom/Progressive band.

This is a hughe change for me, I've always played Death Metal, Technical Death and Thrash.

This idea came to my mind when I realized that there wasn't any Stoner or Doom bands in my hometown, so I like to deliver something new and experimental.

The band consist in:

Me: Bass, Vocals, Keyboards, Additional Guitars, Synths.
My friend: Guitar, Drums.

My friend is a really talented guitarist, but he only plays thrash so this is new to him, but we are gonna start playing music I wrote.

you should maybe learn to write stoner / doom then, its not that simple to change over from one to the other

bad reason to start a band in my opinion, shouldnt you start it because you love the type of music so much?

Jondur
04-05-2007, 07:37 AM
I don't think it's hard to use, it's just very rigid, whereas with GP I can do whatever rhythms and note durations I want.

I know I'm a moaning old fart but the issue isn't really the drum sounds it's the beats. the transitions between sections to be precise. A real drummer just wouldn't play like that.

Which is why an electronic kit wouldn't solve the sounds (as by and large they still don't perfectly recreate the sound of a real kit) but they would add the feel and 'realness' factor.

And if you want real drums, stop worrying about micing up so much - this isn't technical death metal - you want your drums to sound like drums. Stick a large piece of plywood on the floor, set your drums up on it, stick one mic in the kick drum and set two overheads up. You'll be surprised by the results.

pate
04-05-2007, 08:39 AM
I know I'm a moaning old fart but the issue isn't really the drum sounds it's the beats. the transitions between sections to be precise. A real drummer just wouldn't play like that.

Which is why an electronic kit wouldn't solve the sounds (as by and large they still don't perfectly recreate the sound of a real kit) but they would add the feel and 'realness' factor.


I'm looking in to e-kits, but they're too damned expensive. I may end up with one of the little pad things.


I'm on a huge Orange Goblin kick. :thumb:

Also, Jondur: I'm seeing Solitude Aeturnus in 2 weeks.

Jondur
04-05-2007, 09:59 AM
I'm looking in to e-kits, but they're too damned expensive. I may end up with one of the little pad things.

If money is your main problem buy a real kit. You can get them dirt cheap

Also, Jondur: I'm seeing Solitude Aeturnus in 2 weeks.

Bastard. Never seen them live but I know they'll be fantastic. Do me a favour and don't tell me about afterwards! I handle jealousy badly!

ATM
04-05-2007, 10:00 AM
People always play the electric kits at work as if they are real drums, it's funny to see the drum counter guys freaking out.

pate
04-05-2007, 10:28 AM
Bastard. Never seen them live but I know they'll be fantastic. Do me a favour and don't tell me about afterwards! I handle jealousy badly!

Deal.

Shattered_Future
04-05-2007, 11:27 AM
And if you want real drums, stop worrying about micing up so much - this isn't technical death metal - you want your drums to sound like drums. Stick a large piece of plywood on the floor, set your drums up on it, stick one mic in the kick drum and set two overheads up. You'll be surprised by the results.

The problem is I don't HAVE 3 mics to set up, nor do I have the capabilities to do it. My preamp only accepts 2. :lol:

SoundDevastation
04-05-2007, 04:48 PM
ok this thread is very long and i cant be arsed to read all of it.

Anyone into Extreme doom/drone?

Khanate
Atavist
Nadja
Moss
Wolfmangler
ASVA
etc?

Shattered_Future
04-05-2007, 06:36 PM
Never really got into drone that much. A bit too repetitive for my tastes.

I'm very mad at my copy of Through The Darkest Hour right now. It was skipping on The 8th Day. :mad:

pate
04-05-2007, 07:39 PM
Oh noe!!!!!! That is such a perfect album.

Shattered_Future
04-05-2007, 08:40 PM
Yeah, I'm actually really liking SA. I don't usually like the production values that they use, but for some reason it works out well for them.

Nuke Broadcast
04-05-2007, 09:24 PM
ok this thread is very long and i cant be arsed to read all of it.

Anyone into Extreme doom/drone?

Khanate
Atavist
Nadja
Moss
Wolfmangler
ASVA
etc?

ive got some asva and khanate cd's, but drone makes me fall asleep.

SoundDevastation
04-06-2007, 03:52 AM
Fall asleep?! i think id end up with horrible nightmares if i fell asleep to Svarte Greiner or AEthanor.

Khanate though.. what a band. i love them so.. damn O'Malley for making them split up!

Iron Bars
04-06-2007, 05:12 AM
Khanate, isn't that the band from which one of the Sunn)))0 guitarists came?

NP: Cathedral - Stained Glas Horizons

Cathedral is still my favorite Doom band I gues. The vocals blow me away every time.

SoundDevastation
04-06-2007, 07:07 AM
Yes.. Stephen O'Malley of Sunn O))), Teeth Of Lions Rule The Devine, Gunnungagap, AEthanor and 1776543 more projects..

Khanate got him where he is now, and is far superior to everything else he's ever done. ever.

the2stranger
04-06-2007, 08:05 AM
I enjoy me quite some drone.
Khanate is pretty excellent, the vocals are so tortured.
TOTLRTD is great too.

As far as other drone is concerned I'm reallyenjoying the new Nadja.
So relaxing.

Any one heard of Orthodox? They're a spanish drone band,I guess you could classify them a bit as HEX: Or Printing in the Infernal Method by EARTH, bt with some ethnic sounds too.
I wasn't that impressed on the first listen ,but might want to give it another spin.

SoundDevastation
04-06-2007, 08:10 AM
Orthodox is awesome.. do need to listen to more of that Earth release though.. and i havent got the new Nadja yet either... is that on Profound Lore? if so i might try getting some into our shop..

pate
04-06-2007, 08:19 AM
Yeah, I'm actually really liking SA. I don't usually like the production values that they use, but for some reason it works out well for them.

They are like my favorite band. Beyond the Crimson Horizon may well be my favorite album of all time.

And, I'm seeing them live with, you guessed it, Novembers Doom and others in 2 weeks. :p:p

the2stranger
04-06-2007, 08:31 AM
Orthodox is awesome.. do need to listen to more of that Earth release though.. and i havent got the new Nadja yet either... is that on Profound Lore? if so i might try getting some into our shop..

The new Nadja was released on Archive label and only 600 copies were made, so I bet you'll have a hard time finding them. :(

But it's really good,one track, and over an hour of ambient, chilling drone.

Shattered_Future
04-06-2007, 01:55 PM
They are like my favorite band. Beyond the Crimson Horizon may well be my favorite album of all time.

And, I'm seeing them live with, you guessed it, Novembers Doom and others in 2 weeks. :p:p

I still hate you. :mad:

pate
04-06-2007, 04:11 PM
Oh I know.

RetiredAt21
04-06-2007, 06:10 PM
ok this thread is very long and i cant be arsed to read all of it.

Anyone into Extreme doom/drone?

Khanate
Atavist
Nadja
Moss
Wolfmangler
ASVA
etc?

Moss is incredible.

Txus
04-07-2007, 10:00 AM
Ew, Drone.

And St. Vitus are becoming one of my favorite Traditional Doom bands, simply perfect.

the2stranger
04-07-2007, 10:03 AM
I'm not bigon St. Vitus. :(
They lack some power imo.
It justdoesn't seem to go anywhere.

Sup Mike?

pate
04-07-2007, 10:15 AM
Vitus is amazing. Born Too Late is a ****ing anthem.

I've been on a total Wino kick this week. I should have like 20 plays each of Vitus, The Obsessed, Spirit Caravan and The Hidden Hand. That man is a god.

Txus
04-07-2007, 10:24 AM
I have yet to hear The Hidden Hand and Spirit Caravan off that list :(

Sup Mike?
Nothing much, I'm really bored atm...but I'm going to a friends party tonight, should be good. Bunch of stoners :p

What about you? How are grim lands treating you?

pate
04-07-2007, 10:27 AM
The Hidden Hand is really great. They're a bit more psychedelic than Wino's other stuff. I suggest you get their new one, The Resurrection of Whiskey Foote (badass title right thurr).

Spirit Caravan is closer in sound to The Obsessed and Vitus. Their EP Dreamwheel is quite good, but the great find is The Last Embrace. It's a comp, that happens to be both of their albums plus a few unreleased tracks.

Txus
04-07-2007, 10:31 AM
Sounds great, mind uploading that Spirit Caravan comp for me, Li? :)

I just found a torrents for the Hidden Hand \m/

pate
04-07-2007, 10:33 AM
I refuse to upload it, but I have a link. :p I'll rep it to you.

Actually....it's on The Cathedral. But it might be mega though. If it is I'll upload it later today.

Txus
04-07-2007, 10:36 AM
If it's on The Cathedral there's a 90% that the link is mega...and thanks if you upload that :)

I think I owe you like 4 albums already, haha.

pate
04-07-2007, 10:37 AM
Haha don't worry about it. I'll upload it sometime today.

ATM
04-07-2007, 11:45 AM
Saint Vitus \m/
Hidden Hand \m/
Spirit Caravan \m/

I love this thread.

Patrick O)))
04-07-2007, 03:45 PM
Any other UKers see Clutch on this tour?

Saw 'em twice this week :D ****, ME :O

They played Elephant Riders, Soapmakers and Gravel Road both nights :D as well as the new stuff, Mob Goes Wild, Cypress Grove.. zomg

Shattered_Future
04-07-2007, 05:06 PM
Has anybody heard of Warhorse? They sound interesting enough, but I wanted to get a second opinion before trying to find some of their stuff.

Nuke Broadcast
04-08-2007, 06:45 AM
warhorse is pretty cool. female vocals ftw

the2stranger
04-08-2007, 07:45 AM
Nothing much, I'm really bored atm...but I'm going to a friends party tonight, should be good. Bunch of stoners :p

What about you? How are grim lands treating you?

Make sure to listen to some stoner. ;)

The grim lands are treating me with great grimness (and too expensive booze :upset: ).
But I'm so enjoying myself.
I took such nice pictures of a half frozen waterfall 2 days ago.
I even posed black metal style in the forest. :lol:

Damn, I fogot to put a few albums on my laptop, sonow I'm missing a few nice FD albums.

Txus
04-08-2007, 08:20 AM
I played some Kyuss last night :p

And that sounds awesome, I'm so excited because I'm like 90% positive that I'm going at the end of the year :D

-Listy-
04-08-2007, 08:27 AM
does anyone like the Sword? ( probably been discussed already :( )

they're pretty new I guess, I don't think they're that bad. Freya is a cool song.

Txus
04-08-2007, 08:29 AM
I got their album like 5 months ago, I remember not liking it that much tbqh :(

-Listy-
04-08-2007, 08:30 AM
I've only heard Freya (from guitar hero 2 :p) and a few songs off their myspace..was wondering if the album was worth picking up haha.

guess not!

Txus
04-08-2007, 08:37 AM
Most of my friends liked their stuff, so I guess I'm one of the few ones who doesn't like them all that much...so I'd say you should check their album out and get your own conclusions :)

ATM
04-08-2007, 09:24 AM
I like that album quite a bit. It's a fun listen.

I actually saw a guy wearing a Sword sweatshirt at the Battles show so I was chatting with him.

repcak
04-08-2007, 11:10 AM
Make sure to listen to some stoner. ;)

The grim lands are treating me with great grimness (and too expensive booze :upset: ).
But I'm so enjoying myself.
I took such nice pictures of a half frozen waterfall 2 days ago.
I even posed black metal style in the forest. :lol:

Damn, I fogot to put a few albums on my laptop, sonow I'm missing a few nice FD albums.

this sound awesome... a grim 2stranger in the forests of the northern lands :smash:

Phototropic
04-08-2007, 11:12 AM
Any other UKers see Clutch on this tour?

Saw 'em twice this week :D ****, ME :O

They played Elephant Riders, Soapmakers and Gravel Road both nights :D as well as the new stuff, Mob Goes Wild, Cypress Grove.. zomg

I am next friday, ain't heard the new stuff except Electric Worry vid (John Lee Hooker rip off or what) :mad: didn't realise the fecking album was out!

Did you see Taint with them? they're a swansea band too

metal-militia
04-09-2007, 04:30 PM
Any other UKers see Clutch on this tour?

Saw 'em twice this week :D ****, ME :O

They played Elephant Riders, Soapmakers and Gravel Road both nights :D as well as the new stuff, Mob Goes Wild, Cypress Grove.. zomg

I'm seeing them on wednesday, then Acid King the day after. :chug:

ATM
04-09-2007, 07:08 PM
Acid King, nice.

I may see Clutch when they play the venue around here.

pate
04-09-2007, 08:52 PM
Acid King is ace.

ATM
04-09-2007, 09:35 PM
Small Stone Records rules in general.

Phototropic
04-10-2007, 03:19 AM
seeing Acid King on sat, can't wait

Jondur
04-10-2007, 05:58 AM
Vitus is amazing. Born Too Late is a ****ing anthem.

I've been on a total Wino kick this week. I should have like 20 plays each of Vitus, The Obsessed, Spirit Caravan and The Hidden Hand. That man is a god.

Is it only me who prefers Reagers to Wino?

The first album and Die Healing are probably my favourite Vitus albums

ATM
04-10-2007, 07:57 AM
Wino is a local guy so I've got a ton of love for him.

pate
04-10-2007, 08:41 AM
I worship Wino.

RetiredAt21
04-10-2007, 09:18 AM
Acid King, nice.

I may see Clutch when they play the venue around here.

Clutch! :thumb:

I'm listening to Moss. \m/

Apocalyptic Raids
04-10-2007, 12:46 PM
V is my favourite Vitus.

Txus
04-10-2007, 01:49 PM
^Same here.

Do you guys like Buried at Sea?

I finally got their discography and they are so ****ing awesome!

pate
04-10-2007, 06:17 PM
I can't decide between Born Too Late, Mournful Cries, and V.

ATM
04-10-2007, 06:19 PM
Yea, Buried At Sea are sweet.

V is my favorite Vitus as well.

Hm, any other Melvins fans?

Kyle
04-10-2007, 06:40 PM
I just missed Clutch and The Sword when they came through here a week ago, really wish I had gone now. Havn't seen any stoner bands in ages, except some local stuff.

I dig Melvins.

RetiredAt21
04-11-2007, 06:48 AM
Buried At Sea is good, but Graves At Sea is better.

AlienEater
04-11-2007, 07:04 AM
Yea, Buried At Sea are sweet.

V is my favorite Vitus as well.

Hm, any other Melvins fans?

yeah they are awesome

RetiredAt21
04-11-2007, 08:56 AM
Anyone dig Graves At Sea?

ATM
04-11-2007, 09:00 AM
I have albums from both but I always forget which is which haha

RetiredAt21
04-11-2007, 09:04 AM
I like Graves At Sea's split with Asunder. Very, very good.

Iron Bars
04-11-2007, 10:15 AM
Yeah I'm a Melvins fan too.

I downloaded the new Warning album this week. It completely blew me away.

Elliptical Ion
04-11-2007, 11:47 AM
Any of you guys like SUMA?

ATM
04-11-2007, 05:44 PM
I got an album off a blog, it's pretty sweet.

Txus
04-11-2007, 06:04 PM
I downloaded the new Warning album this week. It completely blew me away.
It's one of the best albums I've heard lately \m/

Shattered_Future
04-11-2007, 07:21 PM
It's one of the best albums I've heard lately \m/

Care to upload it to the DU? :D

Now that I actually have money from this job, I gotta start getting stuff off of Amazon.

Txus
04-11-2007, 07:40 PM
I'll upload it tomorrow, sure :)

Alex
04-12-2007, 02:55 AM
Swallow the Sun = amazing

\m/

Iron Bars
04-12-2007, 06:38 AM
Txus do you have any other albums by Warning?

NP: Penance - Cold

RetiredAt21
04-12-2007, 07:43 PM
Does anyone like Mournful Congregation?

Poofy 666
04-12-2007, 07:44 PM
Does anyone like Mournful Congregation?

What are they like?

pate
04-12-2007, 07:45 PM
I like them when I'm in the mood.

Poofy: Funeral Doom

RetiredAt21
04-12-2007, 07:45 PM
What are they like?

http://www.myspace.com/mournfulcongregation

Pretty awesome.

RetiredAt21
04-12-2007, 07:46 PM
I really, really like the vocals.

metal-militia
04-12-2007, 07:46 PM
Clutch were great last night, and The Sword were better than I thought they'd be. I wasn't too impressed with Taint, although I don't mind thier studio stuff normally.
Acid King were fantastic tonight, although there were no more than 30 people there for it!

Poofy 666
04-12-2007, 07:47 PM
http://www.myspace.com/mournfulcongregation

Pretty awesome.

Its pretty good so far.

RetiredAt21
04-12-2007, 07:48 PM
Clutch were great last night, and The Sword were better than I thought they'd be. I wasn't too impressed with Taint, although I don't mind thier studio stuff normally.
Acid King were fantastic tonight, although there were no more than 30 people there for it!

Wtf? That's crazy.

metal-militia
04-12-2007, 07:52 PM
Wtf? That's crazy.

Tell me about it. It was so dissapointing to see that few.
I stood next to Lori for a couple of songs of the first support band. :cool:

metal-militia
04-12-2007, 07:58 PM
DOOM METAL INQUISITION IV - "London is doomed"
PAGAN ALTAR (UK)
WARNING (UK)
AGAINST NATURE (USA)
THE RIVER (UK)
THE LAMP OF THOTH (UK)

Special suprise mystery guests

London, October 2007

Just saw that announced by Miskatonic Foundation. I'll definately be going to that!

RetiredAt21
04-12-2007, 07:59 PM
Niiiiiiiiice.

Phototropic
04-13-2007, 07:29 AM
Tell me about it. It was so dissapointing to see that few.
I stood next to Lori for a couple of songs of the first support band. :cool:

gonna see clutchtaintthesword tonight :cool: then acidkingbombthesunsunsofthunderblackcobra tomorrow wooot

probably gonna be a lot of people there though, something in the water in swansea :p

pate
04-13-2007, 08:21 AM
Did you have to put the lineups together as one word?

RetiredAt21
04-13-2007, 08:22 AM
Yeah, that confused the **** out of me.

metal-militia
04-13-2007, 09:28 AM
gonna see clutchtaintthesword tonight :cool: then acidkingbombthesunsunsofthunderblackcobra tomorrow wooot

probably gonna be a lot of people there though, something in the water in swansea :p

Ever heard of a space bar?

I hope Acid King get more people at Swansea than here, it must be so dissapointing to play to like 25 people.

Phototropic
04-13-2007, 09:58 AM
my bad, but yeh there should be a massive crowd

lots of desert / doom fans in swansea town for sure!!

take it easy

Kyle
04-13-2007, 10:09 AM
Acid King, Bomb the Sun and Suns of Thiunder in one line-up!!?? That's going to be one hell of a show.

repcak
04-13-2007, 05:56 PM
its 1am, its dark, my room is dark, the only light is the monitor of my computer... i can't sleep, but i listen to sunn O)))


its just perfect :)

ATM
04-13-2007, 05:57 PM
Suns of Thunder are so good.

Phototropic
04-14-2007, 07:25 AM
True, their old song Tennesse smile was immense, duno if you've heard that

the album is excellent though, all killer

ATM
04-14-2007, 08:47 AM
Yea I've heard Tennesse Smile, it was on one of the compiliations from fuzzrock.com

I contacted them on myspace about how much it would cost to send an album over here to USA for me, they said they would find out, then never got back to me :-/

Phototropic
04-14-2007, 10:48 AM
Yea I've heard Tennesse Smile, it was on one of the compiliations from fuzzrock.com

I contacted them on myspace about how much it would cost to send an album over here to USA for me, they said they would find out, then never got back to me :-/

try them again! i'm sure they didnt do it deliberately

great bunch of guys

Poofy 666
04-14-2007, 01:42 PM
I've been listening to alot of Mar De Grises again. I forgot how amazing The Tatterdemalion Express was.

Iron Bars
04-14-2007, 01:59 PM
I'm listening to the new Candlemass song again. It's really impressing me this time (more than the first few times).

And I ordered the new Warning album at my local cd shop.

pate
04-14-2007, 04:00 PM
It's excellent. I really cannot wait for the album.

RetiredAt21
04-14-2007, 04:11 PM
I haven't listened to Candlemass is forever.

Poofy 666
04-14-2007, 04:38 PM
Anyone here listen to Forest of Shadows? I just got their EP, so far its tremendously good.

Shattered_Future
04-14-2007, 04:39 PM
I have a song of theirs.

I think. :p

knuckleduster
04-14-2007, 09:25 PM
Finally got The Morning Never Came, I love their version of Solitude. Kotamaki has great cleans as well as growls.

Shattered_Future
04-14-2007, 09:30 PM
One of my most favorite albums ever.

Poofy 666
04-14-2007, 09:44 PM
I have a song of theirs.

I think. :p

It was very good. Probably some of the best doom I've heard in a while.

Apocalyptic Raids
04-14-2007, 11:54 PM
I haven't listened to Candlemass is forever.
Me either.

ATM
04-15-2007, 12:31 AM
I'm obsessed with Cathedral's Supernatural Birth Machine.

Txus
04-15-2007, 12:34 AM
Great album :)

I'm obsessed with Hippie Killer atm \m/

Phototropic
04-15-2007, 04:03 AM
Acid King were immense, as were the 2 swansea bands...Black Cobra were amazingly tight but it was way too intense for me

metal-militia
04-15-2007, 08:15 AM
Were there many people there?
I didn't think much of Black Cobra but I thought the drumming was quality.

AlienEater
04-15-2007, 08:47 AM
I wish I could see Acid King. Good band

Apparently, Lori S used to be married to Dale Crover

Phototropic
04-15-2007, 12:01 PM
haha really? thats nuts, there wasnt a bad turnout, it wasnt packed but there was a lot of support for them there you know

the drumming was crazy in Black Cobra yeh, tight duo, just so primitive and insane, hard to feel comfortable with

Zedthephish
04-15-2007, 12:04 PM
Went to a show last night:

Ocean
Rwake
Minsk
Conifer

for $7.
:thumb:

Anyone else heard of any of these bands (I posted some ocean a while back in the thread)

pate
04-15-2007, 01:30 PM
Rwake is good.

metal-militia
04-15-2007, 06:30 PM
there wasnt a bad turnout, it wasnt packed but there was a lot of support for them there you know


That's good to hear.

I've been listening to a lot of Trouble recently, and I cant wait to hear the new album and go see them next month.

Iron Bars
04-16-2007, 06:30 AM
I've never checked out Trouble. Their one of the early doom bands, right? Any albums I should look into?

Jondur
04-16-2007, 06:48 AM
Trouble are probably the second best doom band ever. You need the first one (Psalm 9) and The Skull. They are essential.

Jondur
04-16-2007, 06:51 AM
DOOM METAL INQUISITION IV - "London is doomed"
PAGAN ALTAR (UK)
WARNING (UK)
AGAINST NATURE (USA)
THE RIVER (UK)
THE LAMP OF THOTH (UK)

Special suprise mystery guests

London, October 2007

Just saw that announced by Miskatonic Foundation. I'll definately be going to that!

I'll be there. I know Warning, Against Nature and The River are touring the rest of the UK as well (mainly because I'm fairly sure at least one of the bands well end up at my house) but the addition of Pagan Altar and The Lamp of Thoth means that a trip to the accursed capital is in order.

I also have VERY high hopes for the special guest.

Iron Bars
04-16-2007, 07:03 AM
Trouble are probably the second best doom band ever. You need the first one (Psalm 9) and The Skull. They are essential.

I'll start looking for those.

NP: Warning - Watching from a distance

pate
04-16-2007, 07:56 AM
The new Trouble is really, really good.

Jondur
04-16-2007, 09:41 AM
Whoa! Is it actually out? I know it's been delayed for the last year or something.

Apocalyptic Raids
04-16-2007, 11:48 AM
maybe it leaked.

metal-militia
04-16-2007, 02:41 PM
I'll be there. I know Warning, Against Nature and The River are touring the rest of the UK as well (mainly because I'm fairly sure at least one of the bands well end up at my house) but the addition of Pagan Altar and The Lamp of Thoth means that a trip to the accursed capital is in order.

I also have VERY high hopes for the special guest.

I heard Lamp of Thoth's demo and thought it was very good. I've still yet to hear the new Warning though.

Any idea who the special guest might be?

metal-militia
04-16-2007, 02:45 PM
The new Trouble is really, really good.

Is it better than Plastic Green Head?

pate
04-16-2007, 04:24 PM
Yes, it leaked. I have no idea when the released date is.

I've not heard Plastic Green Head.

metal-militia
04-16-2007, 07:27 PM
I think the US release date is at the end of April, whereas the European date is sometime in May.

Poofy 666
04-16-2007, 08:03 PM
Anyone here listen to Desire? Locus Horrendus - The Night Cries of a Sullen Soul is mindblowingly good.

Jondur
04-17-2007, 04:32 AM
Is it better than Plastic Green Head?

It'd struggle to be worse - PGH is rubbish. Everything else by Trouble though is godly.

Jondur
04-17-2007, 04:35 AM
Any idea who the special guest might be?

Well Church of Misery were originally announced for the Leeds show. If not them then my money is on Solstice.

metal-militia
04-17-2007, 06:26 AM
Well Church of Misery were originally announced for the Leeds show. If not them then my money is on Solstice.

That would be good. Any idea what the venue will be in London?

Jondur
04-17-2007, 10:23 AM
Last time Miskatonic put on a London gig (Brocas Helm, Reverend Bizarre, Ironsword, Ironheart, The River) it was at the Underworld.

Nepenthe
04-18-2007, 09:38 PM
Any Across Tundras fans?

pate
04-19-2007, 07:58 AM
Never heard them.

Iron Bars
04-19-2007, 11:36 AM
I just found out Trouble wil give a show about 10 kilometers from where I live.

Though I've only heard one song I'm tempted to go.

metal-militia
04-19-2007, 11:59 AM
I just found out Trouble wil give a show about 10 kilometers from where I live.

Though I've only heard one song I'm tempted to go.

Definately go. You won't regret it.

pate
04-19-2007, 02:56 PM
They played two dates 5 hours away from me a week or two ago. I would have loved to go, but I'm going up there tomorrow for the weekend...to see Solitude Aeturnus, Saturnus, Novembers Doom, and others. :p

Shattered_Future
04-19-2007, 07:28 PM
Lee, HOW many times have I told you to STFU about that? :mad:

Nepenthe
04-19-2007, 08:30 PM
Never heard them.

Hear them.

Poofy 666
04-19-2007, 08:32 PM
What are they like?

You live in Dallas?

Nepenthe
04-19-2007, 08:34 PM
Old Western Doom Metal.

Represent it till I'm dead.

Poofy 666
04-19-2007, 08:34 PM
Cool. I moved to Austin a few months ago.

I'll check them out.

Nepenthe
04-19-2007, 08:36 PM
Austin is cool, real neat music scene. I've only been a few times. It's too goody though.

pate
04-19-2007, 08:44 PM
Lee, HOW many times have I told you to STFU about that? :mad:

I'll STFU about it long after this weekend has passed.

Jondur
04-20-2007, 03:59 AM
Old Western Doom Metal.


What on God's green Earth does that mean? Describe it.

I'm seeing Trouble later next month. I have several live shows on DVD and VHS and they were always great live.

Tonight I'm seeing The Gates of Slumber, Earthride and Witchsorrow. Should be a good do.

Nepenthe
04-20-2007, 07:54 AM
Doom Metal with an old western theme and atmosphere.

http://hardcoresounds.net/modules.php?name=Band_List&file=cdviewer&func=3256

Jondur
04-20-2007, 08:06 AM
When I click on that link it tells me I've tried to hack something and they're going to report me to the feds.

So basically you're saying St Vitus crossed with Sergio Leone? sounds cool!

pate
04-20-2007, 08:20 AM
Tonight I'm seeing The Gates of Slumber, Earthride and Witchsorrow. Should be a good do.

The Gates of Slumber FTW

Iron Bars
04-20-2007, 08:57 AM
Doom Metal with an old western theme and atmosphere.

http://hardcoresounds.net/modules.php?name=Band_List&file=cdviewer&func=3256

Sounds like I should check it out. Could you uploads some stuff?

NP: Warning - Bridges

metal-militia
04-20-2007, 11:02 AM
Tonight I'm seeing The Gates of Slumber, Earthride and Witchsorrow. Should be a good do.

The Gates of Slumber were fantastic when I saw them with Reverend Bizarre in October.

Roy.
04-20-2007, 03:41 PM
hey i am interested in hearing more of the gates of slumber.

anybody got an album of thiers to upload?

Apocalyptic Raids
04-20-2007, 11:56 PM
Check your rep, Roy.

Iron Bars
04-21-2007, 06:01 AM
I just figured out I can't go the the Trouble show. I'll be on vacation then.

NP: Pagan Altar - Judgement of the dead

23-inch dude
04-21-2007, 06:40 AM
if you want stoner and or doom, join the daily upload, there is sometimes some albums on it, plus I'm planning on uploading some myself, since I got really into the stuff (been to clutch and the sword and witchcraft this week, and monday josiah is coming to my town)

Iron Bars
04-21-2007, 09:24 AM
Witchcraft are good. I've never really checked out Clutch of the Sword.

Poofy 666
04-21-2007, 09:50 AM
Whoever wants a link to Forest of Shadows' Departure, let me know. Its really good epic doom.

I uploaded it for the DU, so just wait for it if you are on it.

23-inch dude
04-21-2007, 10:06 AM
that's odd iron bars, Clutch and the sword rocked(especially that evening) but witchcraft sucked in my opinion, I heard good things about them(hadn't heard any music of them though) but live, man...

Phototropic
04-21-2007, 11:22 AM
how do you join the daily upload?

i just got Across Tundras album in the mail

sounds absoloutely massive and primal, gonna take some getting used to but i heard good things in the first listen!

23-inch dude
04-21-2007, 12:48 PM
just go to the thread and you'll see

Txus
04-22-2007, 12:11 AM
Any of you guys like Indian? Such a great sludge band, if you guys like Neurosis or Lair of the Minotaur you'll definitely like them. Crushing stuff.

metal-militia
04-22-2007, 08:49 AM
Just downloading the new Trouble album. Think it's pretty good so far.

Give me Beer
04-22-2007, 02:43 PM
I just got back from RoadBurn 2005, it was crushing. Acid King got everybody softend up so Om could drive a buldozer over the audience for Neurosis to sledgehammer everybody over the head and what was left standing was smashed by Black Cobra.

King Buzzo owned the room friday. Big Business/Melvins make a great combo.

This was like my Woodstock :D.

http://www.roadburn.com I bet you're all jealous. The location of the camping was in a freakin' Safari park. It being organised in Holland meant cheap, readily available, quality weed.

Two days of solid bliss.

23-inch dude
04-22-2007, 03:05 PM
man!!!

ATM
04-22-2007, 03:21 PM
Sounds so good :)

So which band was your favorite? I bet seeing Om was pretty badass.

Give me Beer
04-22-2007, 05:27 PM
Definitely Om. Seeing Cisneros and Hakius in the flesh... too good to be true. They were so very crushing, I almost became their music :D. Acid King was the surprise of the festival for me. I liked them on record but live they were so much better. I just couldn't believe what I was seeing. Big Business and the Melvins were far more powerfull than I expected going in and Black Cobra gave far more than I gave 'm credit for.

Pelican was also sweet but I didn't see enough of the gig due to time constraints (only saw the last half hour or something).

Next year, three days. :D If we're lucky we'll have a Sleep reunion by then ;).

Shattered_Future
04-22-2007, 08:16 PM
Man, that sounds freaking cool.

Are Paradise Lost considered doom metal, or are they more gothic? Whatever they may be, their new album is ace.

Txus
04-22-2007, 09:06 PM
More Goth, I don't like them :(

Iron Bars
04-23-2007, 01:00 AM
Next year, three days. :D If we're lucky we'll have a Sleep reunion by then ;).

Starts drooling.

But is there anything that sugests they'll get together with Pike again than?

Give me Beer
04-23-2007, 03:06 AM
One of my friends claims he read an interview in which they said they didn't rule out the possibility of a reunion.

One can only hope.

Jondur
04-23-2007, 03:32 AM
The Gates of Slumber were fantastic when I saw them with Reverend Bizarre in October.

I saw them on that tour as well. This time they were better!

I also 'got' Centurion's Ghost for the first time. Every other time I've seen them I just haven't been able to get into them but this time... well I'm a definite convert. Yes, they may have death metal (well almost hardcore) vocals but they have the doom feeling in spades. With the demise of Thee Plague of Gentlemen, could Centurion's Ghost be the heaviest band in the world? It's possible.

Witchsorrow were the opening band and they are definitely ones to watch. With bands like Witchsorrow, Lamp of Thoth, CG, The River, Unsilence, Warning etc I reckon the UK has thee best doom scene in the world. Discuss.

Jondur
04-23-2007, 04:24 AM
hey i am interested in hearing more of the gates of slumber.

anybody got an album of thiers to upload?

Seriously right, there's no excuse for this. You want to hear them before you buy something - well go on their myspace site. There's about 4 songs there to hear. If you like them then buy an album. You're not ripping off EMI here - you're stealing from a small underground label that relies on the sales of each album to finance the next one.

If you can't afford to buy an album, well, I can't afford a Porsche so I'm not going to go and steal one.

Phototropic
04-23-2007, 04:52 AM
Seriously right, there's no excuse for this. You want to hear them before you buy something - well go on their myspace site. There's about 4 songs there to hear. If you like them then buy an album. You're not ripping off EMI here - you're stealing from a small underground label that relies on the sales of each album to finance the next one.

If you can't afford to buy an album, well, I can't afford a Porsche so I'm not going to go and steal one.

hear hear

i don't understand people who 'don't buy CDs anymore'

robbing bastards

Iron Bars
04-23-2007, 05:06 AM
Witchsorrow were the opening band and they are definitely ones to watch. With bands like Witchsorrow, Lamp of Thoth, CG, The River, Unsilence, Warning etc I reckon the UK has thee best doom scene in the world. Discuss.

Of those I've only heard Warning and their Watching from a distance is becomming one of my favorite albums fast.

Als great UK doom and one of my favorite doom bands: Cathedral.

metal-militia
04-23-2007, 07:27 AM
I also 'got' Centurion's Ghost for the first time. Every other time I've seen them I just haven't been able to get into them but this time... well I'm a definite convert. Yes, they may have death metal (well almost hardcore) vocals but they have the doom feeling in spades. With the demise of Thee Plague of Gentlemen, could Centurion's Ghost be the heaviest band in the world? It's possible.

Witchsorrow were the opening band and they are definitely ones to watch. With bands like Witchsorrow, Lamp of Thoth, CG, The River, Unsilence, Warning etc I reckon the UK has thee best doom scene in the world. Discuss.

Yeah I didn't think too much of Centurion's Ghost when I saw them.

I've heard a few Witchsorrow songs and thought they sounded very promising. I'd love to see them and Lamp of Thoth.

Only Cathedral's early stuff is doom really. I love Forest of Equlibrium.

ATM
04-23-2007, 07:28 AM
Cathedral are damn good.

Have you guys heard Sons of Otis?

philly96
04-23-2007, 07:30 AM
Has anyone heard of Virgin Black? They're an Australian doom metal. They released a new album this year, its got the Adelaide Symphony Orchestra on a few songs. Its an interesting album.

pate
04-23-2007, 08:34 AM
Yeah, so Novembers Doom, Solitude Aeturnus and Saturnus were ****ing amazing this weekend. I would post more about it but I'm getting ****ing sick of mx.

metal-militia
04-23-2007, 10:29 AM
Have you guys heard Sons of Otis?

Yep, think they're ok.

Poofy 666
04-23-2007, 07:14 PM
Yeah, so Novembers Doom, Solitude Aeturnus and Saturnus were ****ing amazing this weekend. I would post more about it but I'm getting ****ing sick of mx.

Lucky. Thats an awsome lineup :)

Why is mx lame now?


NP: Forest of Shadows - Eternal Autumn

rippa32
04-24-2007, 07:52 AM
Hey I was thinking of ordering some Pentagram LP's from www.stonerrock.com I already have the Turn To Stone best of, any other suggestions? I was looking for some of the later stuff for variety.

Phototropic
04-24-2007, 08:11 AM
Cathedral are damn good.

Have you guys heard Sons of Otis?

Sons of otis have some killer riffs + grooves

the vocals kill it though, they are atrocious, if they were instrumental they'd be better

Jondur
04-24-2007, 09:30 AM
Hey I was thinking of ordering some Pentagram LP's from www.stonerrock.com I already have the Turn To Stone best of, any other suggestions? I was looking for some of the later stuff for variety.

get 'Be Forewarned'. Now!!

Apocalyptic Raids
04-24-2007, 11:32 AM
Day of Reckoning is really good too.

pate
04-24-2007, 05:56 PM
So the new Candlemass leaked. It's really kickass.

Txus
04-24-2007, 05:58 PM
I'm downloading now :)

pate
04-24-2007, 06:04 PM
This is my 4th time through it in a row. It's so much better than the self-titled, just like Rob Lowe is so much better than Messiah.

BTW Mike....I met Rob Lowe and John Perez this weekend. :p:p

Txus
04-24-2007, 06:06 PM
Ohh you bastard :mad: I bet Lowe is such a nice guy

And if its much better than the s/t I will definitely love it since the s/t is my 2nd favorite...yeah, I'm weird.

pate
04-24-2007, 07:07 PM
Rob was really nice, but John Perez was the coolest guy ever. I talked to him about (gasp!) Testament and Bathory. :lol:

The first few tracks on the s/t are great, but then it goes to **** IMO.

Daven
04-24-2007, 07:11 PM
I got the new Candlemass yesterday, but i havent listened to it yet.

pate
04-24-2007, 07:40 PM
I'm on my 5th time through it in a row. It is great.

Shattered_Future
04-24-2007, 07:56 PM
I should get that then. I didn't like their S/T at all, to be perfectly honest.

Txus
04-24-2007, 08:00 PM
Wow, I love it. Why is that, Mike?

Shattered_Future
04-24-2007, 08:03 PM
Dunno. It's just really, REALLY boring. I kinda found that about a lot of their stuff, to be perfectly honest...

Don't hurt me.

Txus
04-24-2007, 08:04 PM
:o I thought you had a good taste...

<3

Nepenthe
04-24-2007, 08:32 PM
Anyone who wanted Across Tundras email me and let me know.

Anthony.Pandolf@gmail.com

Txus
04-24-2007, 08:48 PM
Holy Jesus H. ****ing christ, the new Candlemass is crushiiiing \m/

pate
04-24-2007, 08:52 PM
The s/t is boring after the first 3 songs, but I love their first 4 albums.

...and the new one.

Iron Bars
04-25-2007, 09:09 AM
Holy Jesus H. ****ing christ, the new Candlemass is crushiiiing \m/

Was it released or did it leak?

pate
04-25-2007, 09:35 AM
Leaked. The release date is June 12.

To add to my comments about Rob Lowe, I was shocked to find that he smokes. :o

Iron Bars
04-25-2007, 12:01 PM
I wonder what will happen with Solitude Aeternus now that Rob also sings with Candlemass. I hope it wil not become some sort of side project.

pate
04-25-2007, 01:27 PM
John Perez said that they aren't very active anyway, so it will be the same.

Iron Bars
04-25-2007, 04:06 PM
They did have something like 10 years between releases anyway now that I think of it.

NP: Warning - Footprints

Shattered_Future
04-25-2007, 04:09 PM
New Candlemass is pretty good so far. I haven't shut it off in boredom yet, which is a good sign.

pate
04-25-2007, 04:21 PM
Yeah...I think it rapes the **** out of the s/t, but I'm not that big on Messiah and you know how I feel about Rob Lowe. :p

They did have something like 10 years between releases anyway now that I think of it.

NP: Warning - Footprints

8, yep.

Txus
04-25-2007, 05:58 PM
and you know how I feel about Rob Lowe cumming in my mouth :p
Ohh you dirty lee.

pate
04-25-2007, 06:03 PM
Just about right.

Txus
04-25-2007, 06:04 PM
:naughty: kewl

AA-12
04-25-2007, 06:08 PM
S/T was horrible. I'm interested in this.

Nepenthe
04-25-2007, 07:23 PM
Seven Silver Keys is the only song worth anything on the self titled, but it's worth aloooot.

pate
04-25-2007, 07:47 PM
I only like it and Black Dwarf. But I like every track on the new one.

Shattered_Future
04-25-2007, 07:53 PM
I dunno, I much prefer Solitude Aeternus to this.

pate
04-25-2007, 08:11 PM
Rob's vocals are different than they are in SA.

Shattered_Future
04-25-2007, 08:17 PM
Yeah...I gotta say I liked SA's better.

AA-12
04-25-2007, 08:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyGXbQL7V6o


holy ****ing ****

this band is so incredible I can't even believe it.

ATM
04-25-2007, 10:49 PM
Nice, really liked that.

Nepenthe
04-25-2007, 11:07 PM
Good stuff but their incredibleness is believable.

RetiredAt21
04-25-2007, 11:14 PM
I can't stop listening to Mournful Congregation. So ****ing good.

Nepenthe
04-25-2007, 11:20 PM
Ablaze In Hatred is some real good stuff, last new Doom band I heard that I really liked.

I've decided that Dance Of December Souls is for sure in my absolute top 3 albums of all time.

Jondur
04-26-2007, 03:43 AM
Any fans of the godly Rising Dust? For me they epitomise doom completely.

Phototropic
04-26-2007, 06:04 AM
Just got Colour Hazes self titled CD through the mail :) gonna sit down and take it all in later

one of the songs is 22 minutes long though ... :o what a lovely surprise, the version i had on my pc was 9 minutes

Apocalyptic Raids
04-26-2007, 09:33 AM
I've got Rising Dust's self titled. It's great.

Txus
04-26-2007, 06:17 PM
Yeah, Rising Dust are really ****ing good.

rippa32
04-26-2007, 11:48 PM
I just bought Mournful Cries by Saint Vitus which is my first real introduction to Saint Vitus, and my first CD with Wino. I think its bloody great. What do you guys think of Saint Vitus?

Apocalyptic Raids
04-27-2007, 03:06 AM
One of the best Doom bands ever, really.

rippa32
04-27-2007, 04:22 AM
Haha fair enough, I think if you made me choose (I'd rather you didn't) I would have to say I like Pentagram more but then again this album is only new to me. It has some awesome riffs on it and I love Wino's vocals, suits it perfectly. Whats the stuff without him singing like?

Jondur
04-27-2007, 05:18 AM
I've got Rising Dust's self titled. It's great.

Unfortunately that's all there is now and there's been no update from the band re: a new album for ages now. I pester them on a regular basis via Gayspace but haven't heard anything back. They're still gigging though.

Iron Bars
04-27-2007, 07:47 AM
I just saw Sagh confirmed themselves for Wacken this year.

pate
04-27-2007, 08:31 AM
*Sahg

I really like them, and they put on a great show live.

repcak
04-27-2007, 09:02 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyGXbQL7V6o


holy ****ing ****

this band is so incredible I can't even believe it.

incredible indeed... the music and the video... wow.

ATM
04-27-2007, 09:46 AM
Saint Vitus are awesome, Wino comes into my work all the time (which I have bragged about a million times) :D

Jondur
04-27-2007, 10:22 AM
. Whats the stuff without him singing like?


Fantastic. 'Die Healing' is probably my favourite Vitus record.

Iron Bars
04-27-2007, 10:49 AM
*Sahg

I really like them, and they put on a great show live.

I remebered listening to their album some time back so I just listened to it again. They'll be on my to watch list for sure.

pate
04-27-2007, 01:32 PM
I remebered listening to their album some time back so I just listened to it again. They'll be on my to watch list for sure.

I saw them back in September with Celtic Frost. I was already a huge fan of their album, but they really put on a killer show.

Phototropic
04-27-2007, 06:32 PM
I don't see the big deal with any of the doom bands any body mentions lately....sounds like lame, sluggish crap to me...what happened to the stoner band chat?

pate
04-27-2007, 06:44 PM
Most stoner is lame, slightly-less-sluggish crap.

Phototropic
04-27-2007, 06:51 PM
hardly...i don't understand how they go in this thread thats all...theres kyuss, wizard, orange goblin, colour haze, nebula etc, all riffage, pyschedelic in parts but the stuff you guys talk about is very different from that...

repcak
04-27-2007, 07:06 PM
don't you think that Anathemas song "Deep" is one of their best?

pate
04-27-2007, 09:09 PM
hardly...i don't understand how they go in this thread thats all...theres kyuss, wizard, orange goblin, colour haze, nebula etc, all riffage, pyschedelic in parts but the stuff you guys talk about is very different from that...

This thread is for stoner and doom metal, not just "stoner/doom metal"

rippa32
04-27-2007, 09:17 PM
Saint Vitus are awesome, Wino comes into my work all the time (which I have bragged about a million times) :D

Really? That'd be awesome, where do you work?

pate
04-27-2007, 09:24 PM
Music store of some sort.