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Benzum
02-26-2005, 07:51 AM
The Modes of the Major scale?

Iolian
Dorian
Phgryian
Lydian
Mixolydian
Aolian
Locrian

Am I Correct?

Ok but can someone explain to me what is for example " G Aolian" scale?
I used to know but its the one thing I keep forgetting!!!
Please someone help me one last time :rolleyes:

morrissey
02-26-2005, 08:08 AM
Taken from the Jazz/Funk theory thread.

All the different modes of the major scale:

Ionian: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
Dorian: 1 2 b3 4 5 6 b7
Phrygian: 1 b2 b3 4 5 b6 b7
Lydian: 1 2 3 #4 5 6 7
Mixolydian: 1 2 3 4 5 6 b7
Aeolian: 1 2 b3 4 5 b6 b7
Locrian: 1 b2 b3 4 b5 b6 b7

Therefore the G Aeolian scale would be:

1 - 2 - b3 - 4 - 5 - b6 - b7
G - A - Bb - C - D - Eb- Fb (enharmonic E)

Benzum
02-26-2005, 08:42 AM
Yeah I understand that BUT I dont think I know how to ask the question properly...erm...

E.g (This wont be musically correct but its just an example!)

B Locrian = C major

Whats the theory behind that??

gaslight
02-26-2005, 12:24 PM
A mode is a scale comprised of the same notes as the major scale it is based on, but starting on a different degree than the tonic.

The modes of the major scale are as follows.

Ionian is the fancy word for the major scale itself.
Dorian starts on the second degree of a major scale.
Phrygian starts on the third degree of a major scale.
Lydian starts on the fourth degree of a major scale.
Mixolydian starts on the fifth degree of a major scale.
Aeolian starts on the sixth degree of a major scale and produces its relative minor.
Locrian starts on the seventh degree of a major scale.

The way they work is that each mode of a major scale starts on a seperate degree (note) of the major scale.

So for C Major scale we have the notes of C,D,E,F,G,A,B,C in that order. The modes will be as follows.

C Major / Ionian
D Dorian
E Phrygian
F Lydian
G Mixolydian
A Aeolian (Minor)
B Locrian

And so on for whatever major scale you are using.

Say you are using the G Major scale, which consists of G,A,B,C,D,E,F#,G. The modes of this scale would be as follows.

G Major / Ionian
A Dorian
B Phrygian
C Lydian
D Mixolydian
E Aeolian (Minor)
F# Locrian

I think this answers your question?

moaner
02-26-2005, 04:22 PM
B Locrian = C major

Whats the theory behind that??

get that thought straight out of your head or you'll have extreme trouble using modes properly.

morrissey
02-26-2005, 04:52 PM
whole bunch of stuff

So G Aeolian is part of the key of Bb, right?

Or if someone request G Aeolian, do you play E (the 6th of the G scale)?

I'm not sure if I'm phrasing that right.

gaslight
02-26-2005, 04:58 PM
DISCLAIMER: I might be wrong.

In answer to your first question, yeah, G Aeolian is part of the key of Bb Major because G is the sixth note/degree of the Bb Major Scale.

In answer to your second question, I'm not actually sure.

Benzum
02-27-2005, 03:50 AM
Thanks All , seems more common sense at the end of the day *Sigh
I hope I remember it now

gaslight
02-27-2005, 04:47 AM
Well, one it all comes down to it is always the same patterns which isn't too hard to remember. The tricky part is getting the point going "Phrygian mode of F" and being able to jump straight to it. Can't quite do that myself yet.