rhyming problem

[jameschez]

Some people who critted 'fallin to hell' said the rhyming was unoriginal. Whats the best rhyming structure to use?

[NarrowDoctor]

There is no best rhyming structure, It must be well written. If it's well written you even don't have to use constant rhyming to get it better IMO.

[megan bacon]

yeah, i find some of my favourite bands of all time hardly use rhyming schemes. its not too important. maybe once you get a good set of lyrics, then you can start looking to rhyme. its much harder writing your lyrics to a rhyming scheme.
but it depends on what kind of song you are intending to end up with; IMO slow songs suit more interesting rhyming schemes, such as
A
B
A
A
B
where as faster songs suit more obvious schemes such as the old ABAB

[GreenDayLova89]

one song i wrote doesn't even have any rhyme except for like 3 parts (ill post it tomoro) and another song i wrote the f***in song rhymes every lines rhymes throughout the whole song and even the title rhymes with the lines (I guess i overdid the rhyme just a little bit there lol.) i guess the rhymes depends on the person and how much time you want to spend on the song

[metaliq]

"...said the rhyming was original."

Last I checked, original is good?

Also, rhyming structures are lame. Dont rhyme. Unless you are good at it. If you rhyme AABB and it is good, you will be good, but if it predictable rhymes, I will stab you in the eye with a pencil made of incenel that I stuck in the oven for 3 days straight.

Learn your abc's.

[bard2dbone]

Oh Boy! Another chance to post one of my signature rants!

Okay everyone get a comfortable seat. If you've seen this one before, get some popcorn and don't give away the ending.

Bard's rant Number 17:

Don't worry so much about how well it rhymes. A lot of singers have gotten away with rhymes that would give an English teacher an aneurysm. It's all in the delivery.

More importantly, if you write a line that you look at and think "Hmmm that might be a cliche'." then it is too much of a cliche' and should be thrown out. Cliche's are only okay when absolutely necessary, and then in small doses only. Having said that, if the song needs it- use it, even if itIS a cliche'.

Now the most important part: If You Don't Speak That Way, Don't Write That Way. Look at the line you have written. Picture walking up to a stranger and saying just that one line by itself. If the imaginary stranger doesn't understand what you meant automatically, your audience won't either...ever, even after you try to explain it. And don't try to explain it. It won't help, anyway.

People speak in lyrics more often than you would expect. Use the lyricism of normal speech. Don't try to force lyricism into fake speech. You'll just get fake lyricism. Listen to strangers for a while and I am sure you will hear lyrics. My favorite was once when my wife and I were out to eat one night, the couple at the next table had a big fight and broke up. The last thing the woman said, after throwing her food at the mans chest was "You've been waiting to say goodbye since the first time you said hello." Now who can make up a better line than that?

[metaliq]

I speak in prose, so that means I can write like it. Right?

[DrownedThought]

Another thing i see people doing is forcing the ryhmes. What i mean by forcing them you make it sound like your ordering to ryhme. Don't do it. It gets old and boring really quick. To avoid it from happening make a good flow of the words before the ryhme starts. Most people think all you need to know is the ryhming once you can ryhme you can write...WRONG! Ryhming is important but not the only thing to a song. A ryhme usually happens at the end of the song to tie all the lines in the verse together. The lines need to have flow too. Let me give a example...

Ok say a ryhme represents something hold a road together and the line is the road itself. Now in a good song. The road wont be seperated and it will have a good ride the whole way. Now a song with ryhming but no thought in the lines. Its connected but the road is bumpy as hell and all you can do is pull over. I hope helped anyone on this.

[i_mine_cor]

To: Bard2dbone
Oooh, that was a good ending. Although one point I disagree with. You said cliches are alright in small doses if needed. Of course, if done well, a cliche line can make something wonderful, although small doses are key. But you also said that anything that isn't normal speech sucks. I disagree, again small doses are important, but strange word order can be awesome. Horrid grammar or just thoughtlessness sucks.
Example of something cool: "we know not quite what else to do"

[metaliq]

"...we have our beliefs, but we dont want our beliefs, God of peace, we want you"

[jameschez]

Thanks, ive taken note of what you have all said and hopefully i will be able to write higher quality lyrics! lol