The Official Clash & Joe Strummer Thread

[Coma_Girl]

:lol:Joe and straight edge in the same sentence.never thought i'd hear that.

we're officially clash whores.I'm still the queen.

[xxGumbyxx]

I wanna hear some 101'ers stuff, but it's been super hard to find. So far all I've heard is Surf City and that 15 second clip in Westway.

[guns_of_brixton]

The 15 second clip in Westway sounds awesome :cool:.

And I'm the king of Clash whores :).

[Coma_Girl]

i wrote a super long post and my computer ****ed up.lame :upset:

i have a couple 101ers songs somehwere on my computer so i can send them to you when i'll find them.I also got the whole Eartquake Weather album on slsk.Havent listened to it yet.

I've read a story of a girl who wrote a good review of EW back in the days and when Joe went to LA, he called her to go eat something with how.That's just how nice he was.And this cute story of a guy who was drinking behind the venue with his friends after a show and Joe came out and asked them if they wanted to play with his telecaster, so they played guitar and after, Joe asked them if they wanted to go to a party with him but they had a bus to catch...years later, the same guy was in a band opening for Joe cause Joe inspired him to start a band.How cute.

[Coma_Girl]

:lol:i've found my first post in this forum ever.december 1st 2004.

I understand that some ppl now think the clash are not punk.But back in 1977, they were.And anyway, they were writing political songs.And I respect them a lot cuz they included other styles in their music, and they didn't give a **** what ppl were saying about them."Ohhh they're not punk anymore"'...they must have heard it wayyyyy too often.

The Clash is my favorite band.
No matter is they're punk or not.

Just look at how they never wanted to reform the clash even for all the money...i think it deserves a lot of respect.any band would have decided to take the money and to forget their convictions.but not the clash.

:lol: i was already a clash whore.

EDIT:this is andy clash thread police speaking: i wont be there tomorrow clash city rockers, but dont spam this thread too much heh :p

[White Riot!]

I dont care what anyones says that the clash arent punk , they are just idiots.


Joe Strummer practically invented the other (sensible) side of punk (the opposite of the sex pistols pure wank off music)


Every clash song is punk in some way, there is no who ever lived who is more punk than strummer. no one will ever ever meet the bar joe strummer and the clash set not only for punk but music in general.

The Clash did not "sell out" because they didnt change their music they just added different styles to their palette of greatness. The Clash never changed labels and fired their gay manager who try to screw with their sound on Give Em Enough Rope

The Clash released london calling cheaper than a double LP and it was selling for the price a single LP , in doing so they lost royalties.
The Clash also released Sandinista! , a triple LP for the price of a single LP , in doing so they never got paid for their work on that album.

name one band who can match that!?

The bands so called "hits" are dubious. Train in Vain is a mo-town number NOT a POP song and it wasnt even put on cover. Rock The Casbah is not even remotely close to being a 'POP' song because its not a simple melody and the lyrics arent "POP".
Should I Stay or Should I Go Now? is a three chord pop song. okay! thats not bad to have one pop song out of your whole body of work. The ramones did alot of stuff that can be considered POP styled but they dont cop flak about it do they?

In Summing up my Rant I say the famous words of Joe

"I will always believe in punk rock , because it is about making something for yourself" (not something for others in a rigid gay elistist punk form).



The Clash beleived in what they were doing , and they stood for something important.

[cheeser_1]

yeah, i hate when things are gay and elitist. :rolleyes:

[White Riot!]

dont look in the mirror then

[Coma_Girl]

oh well i didnt want to start a debate about if their punk or not, but i agree with you white riot.

Joe Strummer always represented punk for me.but again, punk is different for everybody so someone else might think he wasnt punk at all.who cares.

[sketchyjoe]

The Clash never changed labels and fired their gay manager who try to screw with their sound on Give Em Enough Rope.
No.

[white_riot]

I agree with everything you said White Riot and about give em enough rope i read something about how their manager didn't like Joe's voice and tried to make it sound different or something like that.

[SlappedByTheClash]

Oh dear Lord, this thing is still among the living.


I'm quite proud of that.

[sketchyjoe]

STEVE!

We all thought* you were dead.














*hoped

[SlappedByTheClash]

*hoped


That's cold, G.


Everyone at school thought I was dead too. Weird.

[sketchyjoe]

Where were you?

[SlappedByTheClash]

Where were you?

well, my computer broke, so that's why I haven't posted, but I got some virus crap and I missed like a week and a half of school or something.


Illness sucks.

[CombatRock]

nice to have you back..your thread is growing and growing!!!!!!

[SlappedByTheClash]

Such a great contribution, and I didn't even get n00b.


Ya'll gave it to Anti-Prefix over me? B'astards!

[CombatRock]

HEY! I voted for you

[SlappedByTheClash]

Well, that's one...

[Coma_Girl]

steve!we missed you!look at your thread...it's the coolest <3

EDIT: Travis, when you'll be online on msn, i'll send you my mescaleros profil so you can correct it okay :wave:

[guns_of_brixton]

Steve! We missed you (especially your butt secks :naughty: )! While you were gone I got 1000 posts and 8 votes for punk of the month. Go me! We kept the thread alive in case you were ressurected :).

[guns_of_brixton]

:lol:i've found my first post in this forum ever.december 1st 2004.

I understand that some ppl now think the clash are not punk.But back in 1977, they were.And anyway, they were writing political songs.And I respect them a lot cuz they included other styles in their music, and they didn't give a **** what ppl were saying about them."Ohhh they're not punk anymore"'...they must have heard it wayyyyy too often.

The Clash is my favorite band.
No matter is they're punk or not.

Just look at how they never wanted to reform the clash even for all the money...i think it deserves a lot of respect.any band would have decided to take the money and to forget their convictions.but not the clash.

:lol: i was already a clash whore.

EDIT:this is andy clash thread police speaking: i wont be there tomorrow clash city rockers, but dont spam this thread too much heh :p

You were a Clash whore from the start, Andy :D.

EDIT: Also I got the UK Version of The Clash and Super Black Market Clash today.

[Forest_Fire]

Steve is back! and I came in last in the punk of the month thing!

And my grandma gave me $50 today so I'm going to buy Return of the Last Gang in Town next time I see it!

[Coma_Girl]

i forgot to post it, but last week during my english class, my teacher asked me id i knew which day we were...so i said something stupid...and he said 'no!today is the first clash album release anniversarry'.so yeah.i dont remember when it was..monday maybe?maybe it was a joke too...he likes to make fun of my love for the clash.

[TheNowhereman42]

Great, Steve is back to post better than me, making me get 3rd in punk of the month AGAIN

[Coma_Girl]

punk of the month...pffff

this thread is the thread of the moth for sure :p

[Forest_Fire]

This is the second biggest thread of all time in the punk forum, passed only by the community thread. But that shouldn't really count becuase it's just a general discussion thread and not all about one guy.

There's a hole in my clash shirt. :upset:
But I'm still wearing it

[Coma_Girl]

i dont even have a clash shirt.i cant find the one i love...i saw the guy from the ataris wearing a really cool one once, and i want this one.

[cheeser_1]

This is the second biggest thread of all time in the punk forum, passed only by the community thread. But that shouldn't really count becuase it's just a general discussion thread and not all about one guy.

There's a hole in my clash shirt. :upset:
But I'm still wearing it
is it a hole like, right where your nipple is? i had a shirt like that once.

[SantaDuJuan]

is it a hole like, right where your nipple is? i had a shirt like that once.


Me too. But I stopped wearing it a LONG time ago.

[Coma_Girl]

this is what happen when i'm really bored.every messageboard need at least one gay picture like that.haha

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v111/xfull_collapse/clash/13jst3.jpg

[SantaDuJuan]

this is what happen when i'm really bored.every messageboard need at least one gay picture like that.haha

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v111/xfull_collapse/clash/13jst3.jpg

You need an oil treatment hunny.

[Coma_Girl]

huh...what?


(french canadian :upset: )

[white_riot]

Does anyone own Cut the Crap and if so is it any good because i have only heard bad things about that album

[Coma_Girl]

omg!he said the c-word.

the album that never existed.






















my friend gave me a ctc tape.i cant really listen to it.because...it just reminds me how bad a good band can be

[white_riot]

omg!he said the c-word.

I am acually a she. sorry to bring it up.

[Coma_Girl]

sorry.i'm a she too. :p

[sketchyjoe]

You should lez up.

[Coma_Girl]

You need an oil treatment hunny.
mmm and what does it mean finally?i hate when i dont understand.i need to take advanced english class.meh.


am i the only one who saw the special on joe strummer on much music?ive found the tape from when i recorded it.awesome.

[Penaltyplaybass]

good job

[Coma_Girl]

:lol: i forgot that this is a person profil

[SantaDuJuan]

huh...what?


(french canadian :upset: )


Your hair looks dry and shitty.

But else than that. You look cute.
In a hippie kind of a way. ;)

[Coma_Girl]

my hair seems dry cause half of my hair are dreadlocks.I'm not hippie.meh.


and look at how awesome this picture is. "i <3 the joe strummer thread"

Im So PuNk RaWk

[SantaDuJuan]

my hair seems dry cause half of my hair are dreadlocks.I'm not hippie.meh.


Deadheads have dreadlocks. Hippie!

(I'm just joking)

[White Riot!]

Im am a he , and I have an (!) exclaimation mark.

[Rise Me Up]

i should post in here more

[xxGumbyxx]

I'll probably be stoned for saying this.......but...

























I actually kind of like "This is England" :upset:

[CombatRock]

i havnt posted in this thread for two days!...i hate this is england...i was listing to it on essential clash and its horrible!

andy...i will be on msn around 9 or 10 tonight if you want me to correct your profile

[Coma_Girl]

thanks travis :thumb:

this is england is not THAT horible when you listen to the whole cut the crap album.

[CombatRock]

have you heard the hole CtC album

[Forest_Fire]

I like This is England. The only part I can remember is the chorus, but I remember liking the song.





That's not a crime, is it?

:upset:

[CombatRock]

yes it is

[Coma_Girl]

its not.

i have the ctc tape.i tried to listen to it once...but it was boring.even the lyrics are not good.and i hate how theres a song called 'we are the clash' cause the clash is not the clash without mick and topper.they tried to look like they believed it could work without...but they failed miserably

[guns_of_brixton]

i dont even have a clash shirt.i cant find the one i love...i saw the guy from the ataris wearing a really cool one once, and i want this one.

I have that shirt :cool:.

[guns_of_brixton]

Part of the many reasons The-album-that-must-not-be-named sucks is bacause Bernie Rhodes is a terrible songwriter.

By the way has anyone heard Capital Radio Two?

[Coma_Girl]

article found on internet...i feel like i'm gonna puke now.

London, Saturday 4th January 2003: Rock widow COURTNEY LOVE upset friends
and family of late punk rocker JOE STRUMMER with some extreme behaviour at
his funeral service.

The singer and actress turned up at the West London funeral of the former
CLASH singer on Monday (30DEC02) only to be refused entry to the private
crematorium.

When she was eventually let in, after much protestation, Love horrified
onlookers by throwing herself on the coffin, and was pulled off by British
TV presenter MARK LAMAAR and PRETENDERS singer CHRISSIE HYNDE.

A source says, "Joe's family and friends looked on horrified. It was as if she was trying to upstage everybody.

"Even when she was outside, she made sure everyone was looking at her,waving her umbrella in front of her face every so often."

Love, 38, appeared with Strummer in the 1987 film STRAIGHT TO HELL and is in
London to take over the role of LADY MACBETH at the ALBERY THEATRE alongside SEAN BEAN.

LONDON CALLING singer Strummer died aged 50 on December 23 (02) in Somerset from a heart attack.

[CombatRock]

i wanna punch county love now..shes such a slut

[guns_of_brixton]

I hate Courtney Love for that. It makes me sick.

[Coma_Girl]

I hated Courtney Love before i read that (and i hate nirvana too, so it's really just cause she's stupid) but now i hate her more than ever.She's crazy...She reminds me of Nancy.

[White Riot!]

I wanna bitchslap that stupid slutty crackwhore. I always hated her attention whore face.


throwing yourself on a coffin is total disrespect for the departed.

[CombatRock]

anyone like the song Ghetto Defendant..i love that song at the moment!

andy are you going ot post your meskie profile in the joe thread or in the punk fourm?

[Forest_Fire]

She'd better!


I have it somewhere, but I don't remmeber it.... I'll give it a listen.

[CombatRock]

its right after Radio Clash on Essential Clash

[Forest_Fire]

Okay then.




The intro is a tad weird. But good! The whip is kind of odd too, but it fits the music perfectly.

It's an okay song I guess. I have a little bit of a headache, so some of it is getting on my nerves, but I like it

[white_riot]

I hated Courtney Love before i read that (and i hate nirvana too, so it's really just cause she's stupid) but now i hate her more than ever.She's crazy...She reminds me of Nancy.

She was in the Sid and Nancy movie.

[Coma_Girl]

yeah i know.maybe its the reason why i associate her with nancy...or maybe its just because she's a crazy bitch too.

let joe rest in peace you ****ing whore. :evil:

[IFlogMyMolly16]

anyone like the song Ghetto Defendant..i love that song at the moment!

I do

[guns_of_brixton]

I've become addicted to Jail Guitar Doors and 1977, and also Capital Radio Two. I like the conversation between Mick and Joe at the end :lol:.

[Coma_Girl]

i used to hate the song hate and war and now im in love with it.



something that has not a lot to do with joe strummer: i went to the holocaust museum today for my history class, and for some reason, i couldnt thin kabout anything but the clash for the whole visit.everything kept reminding me of the clash...and after, i met this really awesome guy and i asked him something in french and he answer in english with a british accent.i love british accents.sexy.today was a clash day.

[sketchyjoe]

everything kept reminding me of the clash...
So it was a normal day for you.

[Coma_Girl]

youre so mean.

[IFlogMyMolly16]

i used to hate the song hate and war and now im in love with it.



something that has not a lot to do with joe strummer: i went to the holocaust museum today for my history class, and for some reason, i couldnt thin kabout anything but the clash for the whole visit.everything kept reminding me of the clash...and after, i met this really awesome guy and i asked him something in french and he answer in english with a british accent.i love british accents.sexy.today was a clash day.
Our Holocaust museum is better

[guns_of_brixton]

Hate and War is a very cool song. I'm not totally sure how the Clash could remind you about the Holocaust... but hey, anything is possible.

[Coma_Girl]

Our Holocaust museum is better
probably.it was really boring.an old jew who survived came to talk about his experiences, but his french was really hard to understand so i gave up and tried to imagine what he was saying.

[Rise Me Up]

probably.it was really boring.an old jew who survived came to talk about his experiences, but his french was really hard to understand so i gave up and tried to imagine what he was saying.


was he talking about the clash?

[CombatRock]

I've become addicted to Jail Guitar Doors and 1977, and also Capital Radio Two. I like the conversation between Mick and Joe at the end :lol:.
is capital radio 2 the same as captial radio 1?

[guns_of_brixton]

No, its a different record, and it isn't quite as good, but its different.

[CombatRock]

is it on Super Black Market Clash?

[guns_of_brixton]

Yea, it is. So is "Listen", the song that Paul messed up on in their 1st performance.

[Coma_Girl]

the one that goes boo boo boo boo boom, boo boo boom, boo boo boom?

[CombatRock]

yea or somthing liek that even though i have never heard Listen..is it anygood?

[guns_of_brixton]

Yea, Andy, that's the song. And its pretty good, but there are no lyrics, its just an instrumental.

[Coma_Girl]

i havent listened to westway in a long time...so i cant quote joe...but i remember it's funny...something like "we all fell down laughing" or whatever.



"bastard!" - mick

[TheNowhereman42]

I just found out the Billy Bragg shop at billybragg.co.uk has a pretty cool shirt with a drawing of Joe and undernieth it says "Uncle Joe" then its surrounded by "Old Skool Punk, Walk It Like You Talk It"

and then on the back it says Billy Bragg O.S.P or something, dunno what that stands for

[Coma_Girl]

ohhh i like that.in let fury have the hour, billy bragg keep saying "walk it like you talk it - that's what joe always did"

[guns_of_brixton]

Show us pic of the shirt.

Yea, they fell down laughing when Paul kept going and going and they didn't know when to join in :lol:.

[TheNowhereman42]

unfortunatly I can only find a zoomed out picture of it, none of the shirts in his store have enlarged photos

http://billybragg.co.uk/shop/index.html, scroll down a bit

[Coma_Girl]

it's not the kind of shirt i'd wear, but it's awesome that so much people want to pay hommage to Joe.

[guns_of_brixton]

I think my Clash shirt is cool :cool:.

[TheNowhereman42]

I stole mine from Hot Topic, but I need another one, its one of those huge logos that chip really easily

[Coma_Girl]

take a pic and send.or give it to me.

EDIT: to sean

[Coma_Girl]

I stole mine from Hot Topic, but I need another one, its one of those huge logos that chip really easily
you stole it?punk rawk kid.Joe would be proud of you.Let's steal the big compagnies.

[TheNowhereman42]

lol theres a guy in there who basically helps kids steal stuff from the store, they should have known when they hired a guy with a huge Crass tattoo

they don't really have any decent bands in there anymore though

[Coma_Girl]

i used to steal things all the time, but i got older and my parents started giving me money.so i'm not punk rock anymore.and i try not to buy from big compagnies...but i wear converse shoes and i have a sony cd player.i fail miserably...i'll probably burn in hell.

ohhh...straight to hell, girl!

[IFlogMyMolly16]

I used to steal buttons from there a lot.

[guns_of_brixton]

I don't have a pic, but its the same one as the guy from the Ataris has. I think you were talking about it before.

[Coma_Girl]

youre right.and kris has an awesome shirt.i'll try to find it somewhere.

[cheeser_1]

and then on the back it says Billy Bragg O.S.P or something, dunno what that stands for
it stands for old school punk, i would guess.

[TheNowhereman42]

thaqt wouldn't make sense though since bragg is a folk singer

[White Riot!]

Capitial Radio is a cool song , very relevant

[CombatRock]

youre right.and kris has an awesome shirt.i'll try to find it somewhere.

i wanna see this shirt since you keep on talking about it

[white_riot]

You can buy that shirt on e-bay everywhere if its the shirt i think you are talking about. I saw him wearing it in a Me First and the Gimme Gimmes film clip.

[CombatRock]

go to ebay and post the shirt

[Coma_Girl]

theres a lot of clash thread today...

[CombatRock]

yea i know whats with that....do people not notice that there is a joe strummer thread that has gone 85 pages!!

[xxGumbyxx]

I've just discovered something very weird:

The cd tray picture (the picture behind where the cd goes) for the self titled album, has Joe, Mick, and Paul standing with their backs facing the camera and their hands on the wall. Joe's jacket reads, "1977."


As I was watching Westway, during the DIY part, I noticed the EXACT same picture, but instead of reading "1977" Joe's jacket reads "Hate and War"

I own the US release of the first album. Is this the same picture for the UK release? Did the record label try to censor "Hate and War" from the American version because they thought it too blunt for American listeners??!!??




p.s. in my opinion, Hate and War looks much cooler

[CombatRock]

woah..never noticed that..hm...dont no why its like that..maybe sean or andy know

[Coma_Girl]

i have the us version, and i'm pretty sure its written hate and war....but i'm too lazy to find the cd.

[xxGumbyxx]

I'm positive it's the US version. I'm positive that it says 1977.

[TheNowhereman42]

Ramshackle Day Parade is such a great song

[guns_of_brixton]

I can answer the jacket question. Joe's jacket did originally say "Hate and War", but when the record label was going to post the picture in the album, they changed it to "1977" because they thought "Hate and War" wasn't suitable. Bastards. I hate censorship :mad:.

[Coma_Girl]

Ramshackle Day Parade is such a great song
i love you for loving this song.awesome lyrics...the first verse is really really really ****ing brillant.

[Coma_Girl]

hey guys...look at the new name of the thread :amaze: awesome.we're all officially clash whores.

partyyyyyyyyy. :cool:

[CombatRock]

woooooooah bout time they did that...now were offical

[guns_of_brixton]

:cool: :chug: to the OFFICIAL CLASH THREAD! I love how that sounds :).

You guys read my reply to the jacket question a few posts up, right? Just wanna make sure.

EDIT: Wow, I didn't realize that Andy had more postes in here than me. Go Andy :D!

[CombatRock]

yea...censorship is wrong..i did a whole speach about it in class one year

[guns_of_brixton]

Ya, and plus Hate and War looks much cooler and rebellious than 1977.

[Anxious]

:cool: :chug: to the OFFICIAL CLASH THREAD! I love how that sounds :).


finnaly

[guns_of_brixton]

finnaly

Hopefully more people will post in here now.

[Coma_Girl]

Ya, and plus Hate and War looks much cooler and rebellious than 1977.
but 1977 was a cool year

[CombatRock]

Hopefully more people will post in here now.

yea..i just hope idiots dont come and spam it

[Coma_Girl]

i will kick their *** cause i'm the clash police :rolleyes:

[CombatRock]

andy you couldnt find anyone


























unless its the lambourghin guy

[TheNowhereman42]

i love you for loving this song.awesome lyrics...the first verse is really really really ****ing brillant.

for me its all about right after the first chorus when Joe says "This is the Ramshackle Day Parade", the song really kicks in right there.

[TheNowhereman42]

Just out of interest, anyone know what Joe's epitaph is?

[CombatRock]

whats an epitpah?


/getting of tonight peace

[Coma_Girl]

andy you couldnt find anyone


unless its the lambourghin guy
huuuh..what? :confused:

[TheNowhereman42]

the writing on your tombstone

[Coma_Girl]

for me its all about right after the first chorus when Joe says "This is the Ramshackle Day Parade", the song really kicks in right there.
i also love when it says this is the ramshackleeee day paraaade, and all the emscaleros sing together.beautiful.

i dont even know what the ramshackle day parade is( :upset: )

[Coma_Girl]

Just out of interest, anyone know what Joe's epitaph is?
hmmm good question...maybe something like "one day truth and justice will reign"..ive seen it written on commemorative tshirts or whatever.i really dont know...and i wonder who wrote it...

let's do something...we all write what we think should have been written on his tombstone.

[TheNowhereman42]

ramshackle is a british term for broken or thrashed or worn or whatever

[CombatRock]

huuuh..what? :confused:



hhaha my bad i meant to put fight not find

[white_riot]

let's do something...we all write what we think should have been written on his tombstone.

nice idea. can't think of anything at the moment

[Coma_Girl]

andy you couldnt fight anyone
what makes you think i could not fight anyone? :evil:

[Scabies]

ramshackle is a british term for broken or thrashed or worn or whatever


ive never heard anyone say that before

[Forest_Fire]

woah, cool new title.


Last night I was listening to one of my clash cds and then I heard a song that I had never heard before. It was craaazy.

It turned out to be "Stay Free". Good song

[CombatRock]

i looooooooove stay free..micks voice in it is so good...the ending lyrics are so good...what a great song...does anyone know who the song is about, mick is clearly talkinga bout a friend?

[Coma_Girl]

i hate mick's lyrics most of the time.but the ones to stay free are good...which makes me think that maybe joe helped him a bit...mick was kinda 'selfish' when he was writing lyrics compared to Joe, cause he kept writing sentimental songs.

[CombatRock]

did the clash do it as if you wrote the song you sung it?

[TheNowhereman42]

ive never heard anyone say that before

I dunno, my parents say it, and so I figured it was british. Its not slang or anything, I think the dictionary lists it as meaning rickety or poorly made.

[Coma_Girl]

did the clash do it as if you wrote the song you sung it?
no joe wrote lost in the supermarket, and mick sung it.
and quick question: did paul write the lyrics to guns of brixton?

[sketchyjoe]

I'm pretty sure he wrote the entire song as he's the only one listed as the songwriter on the album.

[Silvermedalmafia]

yeah, I think he wrote the lyrics.

[mr.k]

no joe wrote lost in the supermarket, and mick sung it.
and quick question: did paul write the lyrics to guns of brixton?

i believe so

[AIRIC]

This is still here...

[Forest_Fire]

If I remember right, mick and joe told paul that if he wrote a song, he would be the one to sing it if he wanted

[metty16]

^^^that's what i heard

[guns_of_brixton]

Paul arranged every instrument and wrote the lyrics for The Guns of Brixton.

And for Joe's tombstone... it could say... "Death or Glory, becomes just another story". I don't know... maybe Joe would'nt want that on his tombstone.

[guns_of_brixton]

Did Topper write Ivan Meets G.I. Joe? I know he sings it, but I don't know if he wrote it. And also, I believe the The Guns og Brixton is the only Clash song written entirely by one person.

EDIT: 1400 posts

[Coma_Girl]

i'm surprised, cause I really love the lyrics of guns of brixton, and i didnt know paul was a great lyricist...

[guns_of_brixton]

Yea, and he said in Westway that he actually wrote it because Mick and Joe got most of the money, and he wanted a slice.

[Coma_Girl]

and they went to jamaica together with the money and left him all alone in london with no money.sad sad.

[TheNowhereman42]

and then they finally did thake him and they all got mugged ><

[guns_of_brixton]

Haha. But I did some research (not very extensive) and found out that Brixton is the neighborhood in London where Paul grew up in, and still today, it is a shitty place with gangs and stuff.

[TheNowhereman42]

my friends live in manchester and they're always nearly getting stabbed by f'ucking townies

[Coma_Girl]

i need to go there someday, seems like a lot of fun.

[CombatRock]

Haha. But I did some research (not very extensive) and found out that Brixton is the neighborhood in London where Paul grew up in, and still today, it is a shitty place with gangs and stuff.

yea i was going to say that!

did paul even write the drums to Guns of Brixton

[guns_of_brixton]

I don't know what a townie is... but getting stabbed isn't good.

Oh, and I think my dad almost saw the Clash in '82.

[Coma_Girl]

townie must be a british term.joe used it all the time...i think it means someone from the 'big city' or something.

almost?

[guns_of_brixton]

yea i was going to say that!

did paul even write the drums to Guns of Brixton

Ehh, I'm not sure. But on the Vanilla tapes he was telling Topper when to come in and stuff.

[TheNowhereman42]

Townie is a youth subculture from england. They are usually lower to lower middle class, and wear cheap track-suits and huge gaudy fake jewlery. They tend to be found more often in bigger cities in London. They listen to rap and the new fad in england, trip-hop. They like to stab people, especially people of other subcultures, such as mods, punks, metal head, whatever. If its in a city you'll be ok as most of them are just skinny kids who smoke too much, but if its at school or something you can't really fight back, or he'll, as my friend matt puts it, "get his loser dad or older brother to give you a good kicking, because they all have older loser friends/family".

[AIRIC]

I always thought of a townie as someone who goes into town at sunup, leaves at sundown.

[Coma_Girl]

after tom's description of a townie, i really dont see why joe called himself a townie.cause he did.in an interview in let fury have the hour.

[guns_of_brixton]

Maybe a townie was something different when Joe was a kid.

[TheNowhereman42]

oh, he probably just ment someone from the city or something, which I guess would be another definition

[CombatRock]

so townies are like american gangs?

[TheNowhereman42]

Uh, I suppose you could say that, except they are usually white where as american gangs are traditionally thought of as minorities. They're a bit like the mafia where as they are all thought of as the same entity, but there is warring between families.

[guns_of_brixton]

Yea, but in America, they're fat kids who smoke too much. Sorry for off-topic post.

[CombatRock]

you said that were gaudy jewlery..i dont know what gaudy means but on Westway..when it shoes Paul he has a bunch of rings and necklaces

[TheNowhereman42]

like overly huge, obviously fake, cheap stuff

think like those huge class rings seniors wear, but totally fake and all gold

[CombatRock]

ooh...townies seem like idiots


/going to bed peace yall

[guns_of_brixton]

I've got a qustion for Travis. You know how you've posted a few times about Joe hitting some guy on the head with his telecaster? Do you know the full story, like why Joe did it and what happened?

EDIT: goodnight, don't let the bed bugs bite, and answer my question tomorrow!! :D

[white_riot]

I read somewhere a while ago that at one stage in the late seventies bernie wanted to change Mick with Steve from the sex pistols.

[TheNowhereman42]

Malcome Mclauren once tried to sign C'ock Sparrer, but he was too stingy to buy them drinks, so they refused. Next thing you know SEx Pistols were the biggest thing in England - the very band C'ock Sparrer were supposed to tour/gain succes with.

very off topic, but that reminded me of that little story

[CombatRock]

I've got a qustion for Travis. You know how you've posted a few times about Joe hitting some guy on the head with his telecaster? Do you know the full story, like why Joe did it and what happened?

EDIT: goodnight, don't let the bed bugs bite, and answer my question tomorrow!! :D

I dont know the full story NME does..when i get home i will find the article and post it here (im at school)

[sketchyjoe]

As I far as I can remember they were playing in Germany and he saw some kid really laying into the back of another one so he tapped him on the head with his Telecaster except he hit him a bit hard and there was blood pouring down his face so the German police wanted to talk to him about it.

[CombatRock]

i thought it was cos that fan was messing with mick..idk..i will post the full article when i get home

[Coma_Girl]

As I far as I can remember they were playing in Germany and he saw some kid really laying into the back of another one so he tapped him on the head with his Telecaster except he hit him a bit hard and there was blood pouring down his face so the German police wanted to talk to him about it.
reminds me of midnight jam on streetcore..."name every jail in germany, ive been there while touring with the band"

[white_riot]

My joe strummer book came yesterday. i've read like 90 pages and it is pretty good. Joe was so cool.

[Coma_Girl]

My joe strummer book came yesterday. i've read like 90 pages and it is pretty good. Joe was so cool.
which book?





ohhh and i did a clash shirt...you know how they were writing stuff in the back of their shirt...i did it with mine and i wrote "kick over the wall, cause government's to fall...how can you refuse it?"

[ef drummer 89]

good

[CombatRock]

ohhh and i did a clash shirt...you know how they were writing stuff in the back of their shirt...i did it with mine and i wrote "kick over the wall, cause government's to fall...how can you refuse it?"


my favroite lyrics of all time!!!..did you write in french..i wanna see it :thumb:

[Coma_Girl]

no, in english.i'll post a pic, but i have to finish it completly before

[white_riot]

which book?

Let fury have the Hour.

ohhh and i did a clash shirt...you know how they were writing stuff in the back of their shirt...i did it with mine and i wrote "kick over the wall, cause government's to fall...how can you refuse it?"

Thats pretty cool. i want to see it.

[CombatRock]

are you going to put anything on the front?

[guns_of_brixton]

As I far as I can remember they were playing in Germany and he saw some kid really laying into the back of another one so he tapped him on the head with his Telecaster except he hit him a bit hard and there was blood pouring down his face so the German police wanted to talk to him about it.

Thanks, I kind of had a feeling that was why.

Oh, and Andy, there are 2 French exchange students in my English class. I don't think they're Clash whores, though.

[CombatRock]

allie is hte only clash whore


edit: andy not allie (allie is a girl im obssesed with)

[Coma_Girl]

Thanks, I kind of had a feeling that was why.

Oh, and Andy, there are 2 French exchange students in my English class. I don't think they're Clash whores, though.
i want to go in an exchange so bad...dhu.

[Coma_Girl]

allie is hte only clash whore


edit: andy not allie (allie is a girl im obssesed with)
**** travis, you're really obsessed.go talk to her or something...i already told you not to miss your chance...and you probably wrote my name instead cause i'm as cool as her :cool: i know it has nothing to do with the clash so sorry for the spamming.

[CombatRock]

i was with her all night..thats why i havent been posting tonight..it was a great night...but she dosnt like the clash!

[TheNowhereman42]

i want to go in an exchange so bad...dhu.

come to southern california and we can have wild sexy adventures

[Coma_Girl]

ohhh, it's a good thing if you got to talk to her...i know some guy i should spend a night with if i want to have a real conversation.well, its not the place to talk about it anyway...

and white riot...let fury have the hour is an awesome book heh?

[TheNowhereman42]

i was with her all night..thats why i havent been posting tonight..it was a great night...but she dosnt like the clash!

make jokes, gauge for reaction, see what she does, if she goes with it go for it! :thumb:

"haha yeah but you'd never kiss a guy like me"

then if she says sometihng like "well....." and then laughs

YOUR IN!

thats how I get all the hot b'itches

[Coma_Girl]

come to southern california and we can have wild sexy adventures
southern california is the place i want to go the most. :upset: i really wish i could go.i want to see palm tree...or i'd go to london, for obvious reasons, but british english is hard to understand even if the accent is awesome.

[Coma_Girl]

"haha yeah but you'd never kiss a guy like me"

do guys really say things like that to test if a girl likes them?

[TheNowhereman42]

I make lots and lots and lots of jokes, then move onto topics like sex, making out on couches, etc

Its a good way to test reactions, with low tensions, I can usually tell how far I can push it.

But being way sexy helps too

EDIT: I'm an a'sshole and usually just get with girls at parties and stuff.

but to put it more romantically, I like to fall in love with strangers

[Coma_Girl]

aaarrggg.how many chances did i miss to be with this guy then.i should take jokes more seriously sometimes.now i guess we should stop spammin the thread.

[IFlogMyMolly16]

do guys really say things like that to test if a girl likes them?
Haha YES

[Coma_Girl]

EDIT: I'm an a'sshole and usually just get with girls at parties and stuff.
psssshhhh!

[Silvermedalmafia]

Play "Just Like heaven" for them on an acoustic guitar. Then you're in.

[TheNowhereman42]

hahahaha

so out of interest, did joe smoke? I've always assumed so, as he's english and of that generation, but you never see pictures of him smoking or anything. Or did he quit when he was younger and only smoke in the days of the clash?

[Coma_Girl]

he smoked a lot.and a lot of pot too.

[CombatRock]

Sean, do you still want me to post that article about the fight in germany?

[TheNowhereman42]

haha sweet, anyone know what brand? Benson and Hedges maby?

oh and by the way, the kind of girls i hook up with at parties usually only want a quick fix as well, so no one really gets hurt or anything

[IFlogMyMolly16]

haha sweet, anyone know what brand? Benson and Hedges maby?

oh and by the way, the kind of girls i hook up with at parties usually only want a quick fix as well, so no one really gets hurt or anything
Or they're just really drunk. Haha :thumb:

[Coma_Girl]

it must be because you do your sid vicious face like in your avatard.

and i'll try to find the brand.i read it somewhere in the link i posted about the bastard selling joe's cadillac.

[TheNowhereman42]

acctually I make a point to not get with obviously/noticably drunk girls

unless I'm also drunk, in which case the score is even

[CombatRock]

were getting closer to the 100th page!...we still doing my idea for it?






/going to bed......peace everyone

[Coma_Girl]

it took me about 2 seconds to find it.who's the biggest clash whore now? :cool:

"Being Joe Strummer's car, all efforts were made to keep the car in the exact condition in which he left it, this includes a pair of his signature sunglasses, a flashlight and a half-smoked packet of his favorite Rothmans cigarettes!!"

the guy who sold his car was a gay bastard.i hate him.

[Coma_Girl]

were getting closer to the 100th page!...we still doing my idea for it?

yeah, and i think i know which lyrics i'll take.

try not to dream about allie too much... :naughty:

[TheNowhereman42]

haha awesome andy, I'm off for the night or at least an hour or so

[white_riot]

were getting closer to the 100th page!...we still doing my idea for it?

What was your idea?

[white_riot]

and white riot...let fury have the hour is an awesome book heh?

Yeah it is pretty good. I really like the interview with Joe, Mick and Paul. And there was this really awesome picture of all of them. i think it was near the start of the book.

My 500th post :cool:

[White Riot!]

ahahah do you know what the official them song to the world poker association is?

The Card Cheat! I laughed when I heard. :)



There's a solitary man crying, "Hold me."
It's only because he's a-lonely
If the keeper of time runs slowly
He won't be alive for long!

If he only had time to tell of all of the things he planned
With a card up his sleeve, what would he achieve?
It means nothing!

From the opium den and the barroom gin
And the Belmont chair playing violins
The gambler's face cracks into a grin
As he lays down the king of spades

But the dealer just stares
There's something wrong here, he thinks
The gambler is seized and forced to his knees
And shot dead

He only wanted more time
Away from the darkest door
But his luck it gave in
As the dawn light crept in
And he lay on the floor

From the Hundred Year War to the Crimea
With the lance and the musket and the Roman spear
To all of the men who have stood with no fear
In the service of the King

Before you met your fate be sure you
Did not forsake your lover
May not be around anymore

(Slower)
There's a solitary man crying, "Hold me."
It's only because he's a-lonely
If the keeper of time runs slowly
He won't be alive for long




Joe went to jail for hitting that guy in the audience , but that dick deserved a tele to the head anyway.


Joe actually talks about it in Midnight Jam on the Streetcore Album.

Midnight Jam is an instrumental song with a bit of joe speaking in it.

"Since the last program (refering to the clash) , ive been touring around the world with a new group. You name every jail in germany ,ive been there. Lets chill out abit with this very unsual song"


****ing cool

[guns_of_brixton]

make jokes, gauge for reaction, see what she does, if she goes with it go for it! :thumb:

"haha yeah but you'd never kiss a guy like me"

then if she says sometihng like "well....." and then laughs

YOUR IN!

thats how I get all the hot b'itches

Damn right. That one works alot :naughty:.

And Travis, yea, it would be great if you could post that article.

ahahah do you know what the official them song to the world poker association is? The Card Cheat! I laughed when I heard.

:lol: Really? I'm going to watch poker today and try and hear it :).

And sorry for not posting very much this week, guys. I had water polo almost every day, but the season ends soon, so I will be a Clash whore again.

[CombatRock]

What was your idea?

my idea was for everyoen to post there favroite song with lyrics and talk about it and why you like it ...only one song though and make sure noone else gets the same song...

and maybe say somthing about every member of hte band

[guns_of_brixton]

I'm deciding between 2 songs for the favorite line of lyrics. Are we only supposed to do a line of two, or the whole song?

[CombatRock]

whole song..which ones you think your going to do?

[white_riot]

Thats a good idea. i'm thinking of doing White Riot but i'll probally change my mind soon. Is anyone doing white riot.

[CombatRock]

never would have guess you do white riot.....

hm...i might do clampdown or guns of brixton

[guns_of_brixton]

I'm not telling what song I'm going to do, I want to make it a surprise. :D

[Forest_Fire]

hmmm... I'm gonna have to look hard to find a great song that's not too cliche to use... hmmm

[guns_of_brixton]

I was considering "Remote Control" for a short time, but it's really the Anti Clash song.

[Forest_Fire]

I'll use "We are the clash"




























/is kidding, obviously

[guns_of_brixton]

I'll laugh if anyone does 1-2 Crush on You. It is the worst written song of all time.

[Forest_Fire]

/looks up lyrics


i gotta cum clean, i gotta come clean

haha. you may be right

[guns_of_brixton]

If Mick got to write every Clash song by himself, things wouldn't of turned out so well.

"I'm so Bored with You" "1-2 Crush on You"

Without Joe, the Clash would've invented emo.

[xxGumbyxx]

I call "Hateful" :cool:

[Forest_Fire]

I love the mixing on the vocals. When you're listening to it with your headphones on, those backup vocals sound really outstanding



great song

[sketchyjoe]

I want Protex Blue. The condom song.

[guns_of_brixton]

I want Protex Blue. The condom song.

Great song. I never knew it was about condoms :lol:.

I call "Hateful"

I love the backup vocals too.

[sketchyjoe]

It's clearly about Johnnies if you listen to the lyrics.

standing in the bog of a west end bar
guy on the right leaning over too far
money in my pocket gonna put it in the slot
open up the pack see what type i got

i didn't want to hold you
i didn't want to use you
protex, protex blue
all wanna do

it's a fab protective for that type of a girl
but everybody knows that she uses it well
it's the therapeutic structure i can use at will
but i don't think it fits my b.d. drill

sitting in a carriage of a bakerloo
erotica my pocket got a packet for you
advert on the escalator on my way home
i don't need no skin flicks, i wanna be alone

i didn't want to hold you
i didn't want to use you
protex, protex blue
all i wanna do

[guns_of_brixton]

I'm leaning towards doing Death or Glory.

[Coma_Girl]

lets keep the songs secret and if someone already choosed it, we just have to take another one...

can we use meskies songs too?cause i think their lyrics are even better than the clash lyrics, in a more subtle style maybe.or joe's stuff with the latino rockabilly war...or his solo career?

[guns_of_brixton]

Sure, anything written by any member of the Clash is fine :thumb:.

[CombatRock]

lets keep the songs secret and if someone already choosed it, we just have to take another one...

can we use meskies songs too?cause i think their lyrics are even better than the clash lyrics, in a more subtle style maybe.or joe's stuff with the latino rockabilly war...or his solo career?

its cool


its 1-2 Crush on You, a really horrible song? cos i never heard it

[White Riot!]

Word for word lyrics!

Revolution Rock!

It is a brand new rock
A Bad Bad rock , this here Revolution Rock!
Careful how you move mac , you dig me in the back
and im so pilled up that I rattle
I got the sharpest knife
so I cut the biggest slices
but I have no time for battle...

Everybody smash up
your seats and rock to this
brand new beat

This here music mash up the nation
This here music cause a sensation
Tell your ma, tell your pa
everything's gonna be all right
Can't you feel it? DON'T ignore it
Gonna be Arl-righ-hai-haight!

Revolution rock, I am in a state of shock
So bad, bad rock, this here revolution rock!

Careful how you slide, Clyde, all you did was glide
And you poured your beer in me hat
With my good eye on the beat, living on fixation street
And I ain't got no time for that. Hey!

Everybody smash up your seats and rock to this
Brand new beat
This here music mash up the nation
This here music cause a sensation
Tell your ma-ma, tell your pa everything's gonna be all right
Can't you feel it? DON'T ignore it
Gonna be Arl-righ-hai-haight!

Revolution Rock!

Yeah so!....get that cheesegrater going.....
against the grain....

wearing me down.....pressure increase.

Everbody!
Everybody smash up
your seats and rock to this
Brand new beat,
This here music mash up nations
This here music cause a sensation
Tell your ma-ma, beget your pa-pa everything's gonna be all right
Can't you feel it? DONT ignore it
Gonna be Arl-righ-hai-haight!

Revolution Rock!

To the coolest mobsters... in kingtown!

And the hardest guys... and the coolest girls

Is your heart so made of rock ,
that the blood must run around the clock?

Are you listening mobsters?....
Hey!...All people crawl gotta die! Whole cart of food goes rolling by
its food for thought mobsters~young people shoot their days away , ive seen talent thrown away!

Are you lone shark?..................The Organ Play!....And their dancing to the brand new beat!

This here music mash up nations
This here music cause a sensation
Tell your ma-ma, tell your pa-pa everything's gonna be all right
Can't you feel it? DONT ignore it
Gonna be Arl-righ-hai-haight!

I said A Revolution Rock!


Theres that old cheesegrater.......rubing me down

This must be the way out?!........ (something intelligible)

o-la o-la -ola!

(o-la o-la -ola) (paul?)

(o-la o-la -ola) (paul?)

Any song you want! played request at the band stand!

(o-la o-la -ola) (paul?)

(o-la o-la -ola) (paul?)
El-clash combo , pay fifteen dollars a day!

Weddings , parties , anything......and bongo jams a speciality!



That is a **** cool song. IT SHOULD OF BEEN THE FINAL SONG FOR LONDON CALLING!

[CombatRock]

indeed those are some badass lyrics..the ending is my fav part :)...

[Coma_Girl]

el-clash combo :thumb:

[TheNowhereman42]

Morning Clash thread, god I <3 revolution rock so much

[Brain Toad]

I think once I get my new HD (Wednesday) I'm going to go on a mission to get the entire Clash discog. And anything else I can find along the way. What I have so far:

Combat Rock
Give 'em Enough Rope
London Calling
The Clash (UK Version)

Mescaleros stuff:
Streetcore
Global A-Go-Go

Sound like a good idea?

[sketchyjoe]

Everything except Cut The Crap.

[Brain Toad]

When I go for discogs, I even get the crappy albums. I looked up the discog on AMG and realised I only have 2 albums to get, 3 if you count the US version of their s/t. Maybe I'll do it before wednesday.

[sketchyjoe]

You've got to get Sandinista, Super Black Market Clash and The Clash (US). There's also some live albums.

[Brain Toad]

I just saw Super Black Market as I was searching will get that one. I'll try my best to get as many live albums, and maybe even some bootlegs.

[sketchyjoe]

The Clash on Broadway is a good live album as it's got loads of stuff on it.

[Permanent Solution]

So I can get London Calling for $7 or the Anniversary Edition for $13, it it worth the extra price for an average Clash fan?

[sketchyjoe]

London Calling is brilliant on its own but if you've got the money then it's up to you.

[Permanent Solution]

Well right, I always download before buying...but I can't find the second CD anywhere, so I can't decide which I should go for heh