The Official Clash & Joe Strummer Thread

[CombatRock]

i dont think the clash influnced NWA...clash was anti viloent..and NWA were very vilonet people...but also....some of NWA policital views matched the clashes..so what do i know



/going jogging be back in 15 mins

[Coma_Girl]

sorry guys...i feel bad about the names thing:upset:

and I'm not a Mescaleros whore :rolleyes:

[CombatRock]

what names thing?

[Coma_Girl]

i called dustin sean...cause you know...dustin is not a name where i live..(lame excuse) :upset:

yalla yalla yalla...yalla yalla ouhhhh

[CombatRock]

yall im hooked on the song Armagideon Time...i am i the only one who thinks this song is a masterpiece

1. the beat is a nice reggae groove
2. the lyrics are so true and so good

[guns_of_brixton]

sorry guys...i feel bad about the names thing:upset:

and I'm not a Mescaleros whore :rolleyes:

Its ok, but I think you are a Mescaleros whore :D.

yall im hooked on the song Armagideon Time...i am i the only one who thinks this song is a masterpiece

1. the beat is a nice reggae groove
2. the lyrics are so true and so good

I agree, its a great song. I think you already mentioned that you've heard the original, right? I think the Clash's is better.

[Coma_Girl]

never heard this song..on which album is it?

[MalcolmXInTheMiddle]

Armagideon Time is the B-side of the London Calling songle. It's on the Super Black Market Crash album.

[Coma_Girl]

i almost bought this cd last time i went to montreal...next time.

[sketchyjoe]

The SBMC album is just basically Clash b-sides.

[Forest_Fire]

I don't think I've ever seen that album

[sketchyjoe]

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00004C4L1/qid=1112429512/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8__i1_xgl15/103-6426825-1293432?v=glance&s=music&n=507846

[guns_of_brixton]

I have Story of the Clash, that's where I heard it.

[CombatRock]

i just downloaded it

i like willie willams version better tahn the clash

[Forest_Fire]

Who's willie williams?

[sketchyjoe]

The guy who did the original Armagideon Time.

[white_riot]

the only one ive read so far is Let Fury Have The Hour: Punk Rock Politics of Joe Strummer and it's good, but it says the same thing over and over again in different words.It's a great book if you want something to make you realize the impact of Joe on the society.

I think i'll get Passion Is A Fashion next month cause it seems pretty interesting and maybe Vision Of An Homeland, the book on the mescaleros.

Thanks for that. I'm going to buy let fury have the hour.

yall im hooked on the song Armagideon Time...i am i the only one who thinks this song is a masterpiece

1. the beat is a nice reggae groove
2. the lyrics are so true and so good

I like that song but i haven't heard the original.

[CombatRock]

at amazon.com..i was listing to samlpes of Clash Live form here to Entenity...that album is bad..imi going to get it!..anyone have it?

[White Riot!]

From here to eternity is cool.

The tracks that have the lamborghini guy drumming really show you how much Topper was a much much better player , and without Topper its just not the same :(

[Coma_Girl]

ive heard its a good live album.

[Forest_Fire]

Is that the one with the street sign on the cover?

[CombatRock]

yea

[xxGumbyxx]

I was reading a few pages back about the "I Fought the Law." performance in Rude Boy.

They leave out the best part in the song! The guitar interlude thingey!

Well, anyways, that's my two cents.

[guns_of_brixton]

From here to eternity is cool.

The tracks that have the lamborghini guy drumming really show you how much Topper was a much much better player , and without Topper its just not the same :(

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The Lamborghini Guy wasn't worthy of the Clash.

[guns_of_brixton]

I was reading a few pages back about the "I Fought the Law." performance in Rude Boy.

They leave out the best part in the song! The guitar interlude thingey!

Well, anyways, that's my two cents.

Yea, thats the best part of the song!

And also, I've noticed for some reason that on all of the Clash's live performances, it looks like Paul is singing, but you can never hear him.

[CombatRock]

does anyone have any clash live dvd bootlegs...they have some on ebay full concerts..i was going to get one ..but backed out..i really wish i got it though

[CombatRock]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=617&item=6383258069&rd=1


i was going to get that

[TheNowhereman42]

anyone wanna tab out/knows where theres a tab of Get Down Moses for guitar?

[TheNowhereman42]

oh, also I was in the middle of the desert today and I drove past a wooden sign that said "Mescalero Road" and took a bad a'ss picture of it

[CombatRock]

i wanna see the pic...

and i cant help you out on the guitar..thing (dont play guitar) maybe sean (gunsofbrixton) can help you he plays guitar

[guns_of_brixton]

anyone wanna tab out/knows where theres a tab of Get Down Moses for guitar?

I don't know how to tab, and I don't know where any tabs are for Get Down Moses :upset:. And was it you that said that Get Down Moses was 5 minutes of pure orgasm? If so, I agree.

[guns_of_brixton]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=617&item=6383258069&rd=1


i was going to get that

Wow, I'd love to get that dvd. I've always wanted to see a live performance of Charlie Don't Surf.

[Coma_Girl]

anyone wanna tab out/knows where theres a tab of Get Down Moses for guitar?
I LOVE this song.Joe's voice is just absolutly amazing.One of the best Mescaleros song for sure.

send the pic!

[guns_of_brixton]

Where in the desert was it? And yea, I wanna see the pic too.

[CombatRock]

Wow, I'd love to get that dvd. I've always wanted to see a live performance of Charlie Don't Surf.


im not to fond of Charlie dont surf..but i want that dvd!

[guns_of_brixton]

im not to fond of Charlie dont surf..but i want that dvd!

How come you changed your mind about getting it? It looks awesome.

[TheNowhereman42]

Where in the desert was it? And yea, I wanna see the pic too.


Desert outside of Los Angeles sort of by Palmdale in a place called Little Rock. And unfortunatly its a real picture, I'm turning it in for my photography class, so no digital :(

[white_riot]

I LOVE this song.Joe's voice is just absolutly amazing.One of the best Mescaleros song for sure.

I agree, Get Down Moses is an awesome song.

[Forest_Fire]

I think I've heard it. If it's what I remember, then it is amazing

[CombatRock]

How come you changed your mind about getting it? It looks awesome.
my grandma was going to get me it for christmas..but instead i got a pack of 3 clash stickers 3 pacthes and 3 buttons..but she lost it!

[guns_of_brixton]

my grandma was going to get me it for christmas..but instead i got a pack of 3 clash stickers 3 pacthes and 3 buttons..but she lost it!

Old people always lose stuff. Make her get you the dvd now!

[guns_of_brixton]

Desert outside of Los Angeles sort of by Palmdale in a place called Little Rock. And unfortunatly its a real picture, I'm turning it in for my photography class, so no digital :(

That teacher sucks if they don't give you an A.

[Coma_Girl]

Desert outside of Los Angeles sort of by Palmdale in a place called Little Rock. And unfortunatly its a real picture, I'm turning it in for my photography class, so no digital :(
scan it somewhere.we need to see this...

talking about photography...I'm working on a poetry/photography project called 'Urban Vietnam' for my poetry class.

[CombatRock]

post it here andy your poetry




im so happy i learned all of Rudi Cant Fail on bass today..its so awesome

[Forest_Fire]

What kind of bass do you play?


I've never tried to learn it. Hard?

[white_riot]

I play the guitar and i'm trying to teach myself how to play again because i haven't played in years. can anyone tell me is the bass easier to play than the guitar.

[Forest_Fire]

In my opinoin, it is much easier

[guns_of_brixton]

I'm taking photography next year :cool:.

And to white riot, I personally think bass is easier, but thats probably only because I learned guitar then bass, and I never really took any lessons. But then again, Paul Simonon started playing bass because "it only had 4 strings and was easier." If Paul had learned how to play guitar, Joe would've never joined the Clash :eek:.

EDIT: crap, I suck at smilies.

[CombatRock]

I play the guitar and i'm trying to teach myself how to play again because i haven't played in years. can anyone tell me is the bass easier to play than the guitar.


no....
its just as easy as you make it..
bass the string gauages are about 3 times as big as guitar strings meaning you have to push down harder...the fretboard is bigger which makes streches harder..but yes bass can be easy if you play stuff like blink 182..were as if you play stuff like Jaco Pastious or Les Claypol bas can be very hard...but im not saying bass is harder than gutiar..there as hard as you make it...(if you take this to the bass fourm..they can give you a billion and one reasons)


and to dustin i play a fender p bass special :thumb:

[Forest_Fire]

nice. I have a squier p bass and I'm looking into buying a fender j bass becuase I like the tone.

And I have an awesome ska strap on my bass. I think I have a picture of me somewhere on my computer playing it, but I don't have photobucket so I can't post it

[Silvermedalmafia]

If you know how to play guitar, bass seems easier. Same if you know bass, then switch to 6 strings later on.

[CombatRock]

i already know bass..and i recently got a guitar and im better than my friend that has been playing guitar for 2 years..but at my bass lessons my teacher started talkinga bout hte clash...he jsut kept on going on how poppy and catchy there songs were..i wanted to tell him all about the clash and joes belifs..but didnt feel like it..he was kinda of ignorant

[Coma_Girl]

tomorrow i'll type the interview with joe i'm reading in my book.hes so awesome..aww.

[guns_of_brixton]

I play a Fender Standard Strat if anyone cares. I was going to get a Telecaster, but I changed my mind.

My bass is a Washburn that I got used at some place and has somebody's name carved into it. It sucks for playing without a pick, but it sounds sweet when I play the Magnificent seven :thumb:.

[Forest_Fire]

hahaha what name?

[guns_of_brixton]

Do you mean what the bass is called? I think its called a Washburn Pro.

[sketchyjoe]

I think he means "What name is carved into it?"

[Forest_Fire]

Precisley

[guns_of_brixton]

It either says "Tim" or "Him", the latter of which is apparently some metal band.

EDIT: It's carved into the 13th fret.

[Coma_Girl]

i'm doing a clash shirt, and i can't decide which lyrics i want to write in the back...they all means something to me...any suggestions?

[sketchyjoe]

"He who ****s nun will later join the church"

[guns_of_brixton]

"He who ****s nun will later join the church"

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Or possibly "a riot of my own", but it's really your decision.

[TheNowhereman42]

i'm doing a clash shirt, and i can't decide which lyrics i want to write in the back...they all means something to me...any suggestions?

"You have the right to freedom of speech, provided of course, you're not dumb enough to acctually try it"

[Coma_Girl]

i really dont know.there's just so many good lyrics, i really cant choose.i had a dream once where i was buying a clash shirt with 'long distance callers make long distance calls' on the back...maybe lyrics from koka kola?aahhhhhH!too much lyrics...just too much.maybe passion is a fashion...

[Coma_Girl]

"You have the right to freedom of speech, provided of course, you're not dumb enough to acctually try it"
that's the quote I used in the editorial we (the students) wrote against the school direction.

[guns_of_brixton]

"You have the right to freedom of speech, provided of course, you're not dumb enough to acctually try it"

You could use anything from Know your Rights.

"Murder is a crime! Unless it was done by an police man... or an aristocrat... oh... these are your rights!" That's probably way too long, though.

[TheNowhereman42]

"If Adolf Hitler flew in today
They'd send a limousine anyway"

"You think its funny, turning rebellion into money"

"White youth, black youth
Better find another solution
Why not phone up Robin Hood
And ask him for some wealth distribution"

a few off Hammersmith

[Coma_Girl]

another question...at the end of clampdown someone say something as the song fades away...but i cant understand what it says.anyone else noticed?

[Coma_Girl]

i think i'll take:

Yankee dollar talk to the dictators of the world - In fact it's giving orders and they can't afford to miss a word.

[guns_of_brixton]

It says "Who's barmy now!"

Barmy is some British word, maybe Joe will know what is means because I don't.

[TheNowhereman42]

it basically means crazy

[Coma_Girl]

I hope Joe knows what it means cause he wrote it...it would be kinda gay to write something you dont even understand...and Joe wasnt gay.

EDIT: I just realized you were talking about sketchy...i think it's tim efor me to go to bed heh.

[guns_of_brixton]

White youth, black youth
Better find another solution
Why not phone up Robin Hood
And ask him for some wealth distribution"


Possibly my favorite Clash lyrics ever, although I change my mind alot.

[guns_of_brixton]

I hoep Joe knows what it means cause he worte it...it would be kinda gay to write something you dont even understand...and Joe wasnt gay.

:lol: :lol: I meant sketchyjoe :lol: :lol:

[Coma_Girl]

yeah :upset: read my edit.

[guns_of_brixton]

yeah :upset: read my edit.

Its ok Andy :thumb:.

I think the lyrics from I'm so Bored with the USA will look great on the shirt :thumb:. Be sure to send a pic.

[xxGumbyxx]

"Know Your Rights"

[TheNowhereman42]

Its ok Andy :thumb:.

I think the lyrics from I'm so Bored with the USA will look great on the shirt :thumb:. Be sure to send a pic.

wouldn't be funny/political in canada

[guns_of_brixton]

wouldn't be funny/political in canada

The Clash were from England, so the only place it wouldn't be funny/political is probably the US.

[TheNowhereman42]

nah cause at the time the english punk scene hated the american scene

in canada I'm so bored with the American republican party would make more sense

[guns_of_brixton]

nah cause at the time the english punk scene hated the american scene

in canada I'm so bored with the American republican party would make more sense

True, and Joe was also sick of seeing McDonalds' on every strret corner.

I may be wrong, but were the Clash the first band to ever criticize the American government eith I'm so Bored with the USA? Because it would be pretty ironic for an English band to be the first ones the criticize the US.

[CombatRock]

i dont know if you know this but..Im so Bored with the USA isnt an anti american song..its just saying how in england and other countries people were bored growing up on americaized customs and cultrual..they wanted to grow up there own way not like the americans



edit: to nowwhereman42

[TheNowhereman42]

aye, take that imperialists!

its funny my dad saw The Ramones once and had no f'ucking idea who they were or what Americans were doings playing shows in england

[guns_of_brixton]

Your dad saw the Ramones live in England? Cool. Did he ever see the Clash?

[CombatRock]

sean..what the last testament..i heard you list in the dvd thread..whats it about..is it good?

[TheNowhereman42]

Your dad saw the Ramones live in England? Cool. Did he ever see the Clash?

me mom did, she saw Bob Marley too

my dad said nobody knew how to react to The Ramones because they didn't look like punks and were American, and played in the city hall of one of the smallest, mopst ghetto towns in England (where my dad grew up)

[guns_of_brixton]

sean..what the last testament..i heard you list in the dvd thread..whats it about..is it good?

Its the dvd that came with the Legacy Edition of London Calling. Its pretty good, the home video is the best part.

[CombatRock]

oooh..nvm i have that haha.i didnt know it was called last testament...i just wish it was better footage!

[guns_of_brixton]

me mom did, she saw Bob Marley too

Thats awesome :cool:. My mom's friend saw the Clash (in Chicago), and she saw Bob Marley a bunch of times. My uncle live in San Francisco when Jello Biafra ran for mayor, and next time I talk to him I'll ask him who he voted for.

[CombatRock]

me mom did, she saw Bob Marley too
)



:amaze: :eek: :thumb:




thats awesome!

[guns_of_brixton]

oooh..nvm i have that haha.i didnt know it was called last testament...i just wish it was better footage!

:lol: Yea, I had to think for a little while to remeber what it was called.

[TheNowhereman42]

Haha I told my parents to vote Jack Grisham (from TSOL) when he ran for Cali governer a while ago.

[CombatRock]

Thats awesome :cool:. My mom's friend saw the Clash (in Chicago), and she saw Bob Marley a bunch of times. My uncle live in San Francisco when Jello Biafra ran for mayor, and next time I talk to him I'll ask him who he voted for.


i wish i were these people...the closet im going to get is see Ziggy Marley and DK with there new singer

[guns_of_brixton]

Tell us how it is after you see them.

[TheNowhereman42]

I saw Against Me!, thats one for the kids

[CombatRock]

im heading off for tonight..peace clash thread

[guns_of_brixton]

Peace Travis :).

[CombatRock]

i need some clash pics cos i recently got a new computer...

post your favroite pics of the clash !

do it

[Forest_Fire]

I like the one is the essential clash booklet. I'll see if I can find it and edit this to put it in...

EDIT: I can't find it, but oh well. Apparently I replaced it accidently with a pic of me playing bass :(

But I found one I like a lot from clash photorockers

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=14018&stc=1

[sketchyjoe]

I like the one is the essential clash booklet. I'll see if I can find it and edit this to put it in...

EDIT: I can't find it, but oh well. Apparently I replaced it accidently with a pic of me playing bass :(

But I found one I like a lot from clash photorockers

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=14018&stc=1
Teh secks.

[sketchyjoe]

me mom did, she saw Bob Marley too

my dad said nobody knew how to react to The Ramones because they didn't look like punks and were American, and played in the city hall of one of the smallest, mopst ghetto towns in England (where my dad grew up)
My uncle saw The Clash.

[Coma_Girl]

lost in the supermarket
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v111/xfull_collapse/clash/lostinthesupermarket.jpg

he looks good on this one.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v111/xfull_collapse/clash/joephotovrmtnice.jpg

clash city rockers
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v111/xfull_collapse/clash/claseuh.jpg

Paul and his bass.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v111/xfull_collapse/clash/pauly.jpg

[Forest_Fire]

In the last one, what does it say on the arm of paul's jacket? Creative Violence?

[Coma_Girl]

i cant read really well...but it think it says creative violence

[CombatRock]

in the last one what kind of bass is that paul has..its not his rickenbacker or his fender?

[TheNowhereman42]

It looks like if Fender combined a P-bass with a telecaster

[Forest_Fire]

Thats crazy

[CombatRock]

but look at the head stock..its not a fender head stock

[TheNowhereman42]

might be a foriegn bass he borrowed for the picture, check out the spelling of November, he was probably in another country at the time

[TheNowhereman42]

Some crazy french make

[sketchyjoe]

If it was in '76 then they wouldn't have been in another country.

[TheNowhereman42]

then why does it say Novembre?

[CombatRock]

cos clashcityphotos is a french site and that is were the pic came from

[TheNowhereman42]

oh.....

well if I had known that

[SantaDuJuan]

oh.....

well if I had known that


Sucka.

[Anxious]

what the **** is BBW?

[TheNowhereman42]

Big Beautiful Women duh

[Forest_Fire]

I thought it was Bar-B-que Wings at first

[Coma_Girl]

I finished the book.So here's a little review.

Let Fury Have The Hour: The Punk Rock Politics Of Joe Strummer.

It's a great book...it explains really well the impact the clash and joe had on people from all generations and society.It's articles, essays (sp?) and interviews with Joe.There's also an interview the clash did with sniffin' glue back in 77.It's pretty interesting, and I learned a lot of things.It talks a lot about politics (the name of the book...) and society in the 70s.Joe's philosophy was the best...We should call it Strummerism... :p


we talked about how joe is in heaven if it exists, and if joe believed in heaven...in one of the interviews the interviewer asks Joe "well, you dedicated your last album to Joey Ramone, where do you think he is now?"
Joe: "in heaven"
interviewer: "you believe in heaven?"
Joe: "maybe not for me, but for Joey Ramone, sure!"

[TheNowhereman42]

you should write a longer review and post it as a book review thread, don't think we've had one of those before, as being litarate isn't punk

[sketchyjoe]

There is a Literature thread.

[Coma_Girl]

i dont really feel like writing a whole review right now.

i forgot something...if you dont cry while you read this, you dont have a heart.Joe was so nice to everyone, I cried at every chapters.It's not sad...it's just beautiful to read what people had to say about him.really touching.(woah i think i just made a really bad translation of 'touchant' and it probably means something else than what i want to say)

[CombatRock]

your sure liked this book...im going to pick it up!! (as soon as i get money)
how much did you pay for ir?

[sketchyjoe]

i dont really feel like writing a whole review right now.

i forgot something...if you dont cry while you read this, you dont have a heart.Joe was so nice to everyone, I cried at every chapters.It's not sad...it's just beautiful to read what people had to say about him.really touching.(woah i think i just made a really bad translation of 'touchant' and it probably means something else than what i want to say)
omg emo kid.

I must admit I was welling up the first time I heard Johnny and Joe do Redemption Song.

[CombatRock]

hey whatever happend to slapbyclash ?..

[guns_of_brixton]

It looks like if Fender combined a P-bass with a telecaster

A Rickenbacker? That's my best guess.

And I'm also going to get Let Fury Have the Hour when I get money.

[Coma_Girl]

hmm good question.he would be proud to see what his thread has become.


hey...do you guys think it's okay to post my mescaleros profil on the punk forum even if the mescaleros are not really punk?

[guns_of_brixton]

Absolutely. Anything with Joe Strummer is at least somewhat punk. But on second thought you might want to ask a mod in the Questions/Problems Thread.

[Coma_Girl]

i'll ask someone to correct all my mistakes before.And I'm sure theres a lot cause my english is lame.

[guns_of_brixton]

Your English isn't lame Andy. About half of the people on this site's posts are impossible to read.

[Forest_Fire]

Your english is great Andy. And I can't wait to read the profile, as I still don't know a lot about them

[CombatRock]

yea post it here or either the other music forum

[TheNowhereman42]

There is a Literature thread.

not in the punk forum surely?

And Andy you might as well post it in here, we post ska stuff in here even though its not punk, but its appreciated by punks, just like old joe

[Coma_Girl]

old joe...reminds me of the first book i ever read in english...the catcher in the rye...the guy say 'old' before each names and i thought it was because everybody was like 50+ years old...haha.

awww...we should kep this thread joe-related or it will be closed. :upset:

[CombatRock]

we need to do somthing for the 100th page!!! somthing special

[Coma_Girl]

ligth candles and sing clash songs maybe?or Mescaleros songs

Yalla Yalla is my boyfriend<3 :amaze:

[CombatRock]

you cant sing over the internet though..

any other suggestions

[TheNowhereman42]

all buy mics and set up a chat room in aol and sing over the internet?

[Coma_Girl]

we can sing in our heads :p and write poems about Joe and The Clash, get all emotional and cry all night, posting on this thread.

[TheNowhereman42]

lol, some sort of memorial for Joe I think

[CombatRock]

my idea was to post your favroite lyrics of a song..only 1 lyric..and write a couple sentence about each clash member

[Coma_Girl]

this thread makes me realize how un-punk i am.

1-i'm gonna study in litterature and someone (i think it's tom) said that reading was the least punk thing to do

2- i cry all the time

3- i'm a clash whore.like a 12 years old in love with simple plan...but i'm not 12 years old and I'm not in love with simple plan.


i'm glad not to be punk.Thanks Joe Strummer thread.

[Coma_Girl]

my idea was to post your favroite lyrics of a song..only 1 lyric..and write a couple sentence about each clash member
good idea!

only 1 lyrics.are you trying to kill me? :upset:

[CombatRock]

i dont think you have to be a punk to like the clash or anything with Joe...who cares what other people see you as..im sure Joe wouldnt think less of you cos your not a punk

[CombatRock]

good idea!

only 1 lyrics.are you trying to kill me? :upset:


it will be hard...and we need to make it so 2 of us want have the same song

[TheNowhereman42]

Studying in general is un-punk, punks pull reciept scams and live in abandoned houses, duh.

On another note, check out the sexyness that is me right

<---------over there

[TheNowhereman42]

Ironically, the shirt I'm wearing says "This is an emo shirt" and has little scribbles of stars and moons and such with little hearts dotting the "i"s

[Coma_Girl]

the clash werent punk really...they were just great.but at the same time they were the punkest.hmm..i hate the word punk, i hate when people call me a punk, i hate when people say i'm listening to punk music...so i have no idea what i'm doing on this forum.

[Coma_Girl]

Studying in general is un-punk, punks pull reciept scams and live in abandoned houses, duh.

On another note, check out the sexyness that is me right

<---------over there
post a bigger pic.i cant see.

[TheNowhereman42]

thats as big as it gets...and I don't have a tinypic acount or photobucket or anything, anyway I look horrible in that picture because im doing my most punkest snarl, and punk = ugly

[TheNowhereman42]

my hairs way, way, way longer than that now, bangs down to my mouth

[Coma_Girl]

okay, i had no idea you were that good looking (if you really are, cause i cant see...) but now, we have to stop spamming this thread.

[CombatRock]

the clash werent punk really...they were just great.but at the same time they were the punkest.hmm..i hate the word punk, i hate when people call me a punk, i hate when people say i'm listening to punk music...so i have no idea what i'm doing on this forum.

clash were bigger than punk

[Coma_Girl]

i know it's wrong, i know he'd hate me to do that...but sometimes i can't help but think Joe = God...but he was just a human.probably the more human human...if you know what i mean huh

[CombatRock]

are you kiddin andy, joe would love you

[Coma_Girl]

are you crazy? he would hate me.I'm everything he hated.

[CombatRock]

joe couldnt hate you

[Coma_Girl]

i'm sure he could.

[CombatRock]

why do you think joe would hate you?

[sketchyjoe]

I hate all of you.

[guns_of_brixton]

I hate all of you.

:lol:

But Andy, I don't think that Joe Strummer would hate you. He was a good guy, and I don't think he would hate you for thinking he was a god. Like, if had ever talked to him, he would say he wasn't a god or anything, but he wouldn't hate you.

[white_riot]

But Andy, I don't think that Joe Strummer would hate you. He was a good guy, and I don't think he would hate you for thinking he was a god. Like, if had ever talked to him, he would say he wasn't a god or anything, but he wouldn't hate you.

I agree with guns of brixton. he would not hate you for thinking he was a God.

[CombatRock]

did everyone see my idea for the 100th page of the thread?

[guns_of_brixton]

did everyone see my idea for the 100th page of the thread?

Yea, and I think its agreat idea :thumb:.

But choosing 1 lyric will be really hard for everyone. It's a good thing we've got like 20 pages to think.


This is the 3rd largest thread in the punk forum. Steve would be proud.

[Coma_Girl]

I think steve is dead...he's somewhere in heaven with joe.or he's in hell and he suffers a lot. :cool:

[guns_of_brixton]

I think steve is dead...he's somewhere in heaven with joe.or he's in hell and he suffers a lot. :cool:

:lol:

I hope he comes back.

Also, are there any other Clash dvds besides Westway, Essential Clash, the one that came with the legacy version of London Calling, and bootlegs?

[CombatRock]

yes there is one..i saw it on amazon..i will go look for you


edit: nvm it was a book not a dvd...

idk if theres any other dvds...theres rude boy though...bootlegs are the best to go with most of them haved live shows all the way through

[CombatRock]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=617&item=6382636138&rd=1


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=617&item=6383743901&rd=1

found those..i dont think those are bootlegs cos they have a barscan thing

[Coma_Girl]

there's also the last night london burned, a mescaleros dvd.their last show when mick joined joe on stage...

[CombatRock]

do you own it andy?

[Forest_Fire]

I decided to leave MX because I waste a lot of time here, and now it's getting warmer and everything, so I can go out more.


But then I started reading this thread again and decided that I will keep on posting in this thread. And maybe occasionally in other threads.

[Coma_Girl]

Dustin...don't leave us!Look, I even know your name :upset:

*no I don't own the DVD.

[CombatRock]

we cant lose another memeber of the clash thread!..then it would be just me andy and sean...

[Forest_Fire]

Studying in general is un-punk, punks pull reciept scams and live in abandoned houses, duh.

On another note, check out the sexyness that is me right

<---------over there

pfft. That's nothing. Check out this hawtness

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=14038&stc=1

[guns_of_brixton]

Yea, I think I posted like 20 pages or so back about the last performance with Mick and Joe. They played White Riot, and before they started, Joe called out, "This one's in A, ya know." I would love to get that dvd.

And I left MX from like August to December because I forgot about it when I went of vacation :). I only had like 150 posts at that point anyway.

[guns_of_brixton]

we cant lose another memeber of the clash thread!..then it would be just me andy and sean...

Its kind of crazy how the three of us have like 300+ posts in here.

[CombatRock]

yea..does any one know were slapedbyclash went?

[Forest_Fire]

Someone could email him from his public profile. He was like 18 anyway. Maybe he got a life

[Coma_Girl]

i'm the joe strummer thread police and i say: THIS IS A JOE STRUMMER THREAD.

[guns_of_brixton]

Probably, or a job.

EDIT: sorry Andy :upset:

[CombatRock]

Someone could email him from his public profile. He was like 18 anyway. Maybe he got a life


im still waiting for my life to come... how old is everyone here


im 15

[Forest_Fire]

That reminds me. I was listening to Flogging Molly and it said something about a Tommy Gun. I went to their site later and found out that the guy who writes the lyrics loved Joe Strummer and wanted to make some kind of reference to it.

Meh. Medium interesting I guess

[guns_of_brixton]

You guys know how Paul was talking about his brother in Westway? I was wondering if any one of the 4 guys in the Clash had any siblings or relatives that were famous or anything. Do you guys know of any? Cause I don't.

EDIT: I'm fifteen too. My birthday was last week.

[Forest_Fire]

I have no idea at all. What about Joe's kids? did they ever do anything musical?


edit: I'm fourteen, but my birthday is in a month and a half

[CombatRock]

You guys know how Paul was talking about his brother in Westway? I was wondering if any one of the 4 guys in the Clash had any siblings or relatives that were famous or anything. Do you guys know of any? Cause I don't.

EDIT: I'm fifteen too. My birthday was last week.


Joes brother was a nazi..i dont know about there familys that much

[User Name]

im 14 and ill be 15 in like 2 months

[CombatRock]

welcome to the joe thread

[Coma_Girl]

joe's brother commited suicide when Joe was 20.Joe's kids hated Joe's music...(the bastards) and I've read an interview Joe's daughter did with Joe but it was really boring so I doubt she's a journalist.I don't know for Paul, Mick and Topper though...


and the lamborghini guy crashed his car...

[CombatRock]

did he really crash?

[Coma_Girl]

no but it would be funny.what did he become after the clash huh?

[CombatRock]

idk..but i just read..that terry was there on stage when the clash got in the rock and roll hall of fame!...thats not fair

[Coma_Girl]

joe wasnt even on stage and the LG was there.man it sucks

[sketchyjoe]

Doesn't Joe have a 10 year old daughter or something?

[CombatRock]

i know he has a daugher..two i think..im not sure of the age

[cheeser_1]

i'll be 20 in a month and a bit, and i haven't read any of this thread except the last 10 posts or so. because i was trying to figure out how the hell this thread has a million billion posts.

[sketchyjoe]

Because there are a lot of Clash whores on this forum.

[Rise Me Up]

there are two kinds of people in this forum clash fans and ramones fans------which are you

DONT ANSWER PLEASE

[sketchyjoe]

I like The Rash just as much as The Clamones.

[cheeser_1]

I like The Rash just as much as The Clamones.
i had both of those once. the ointment fixed the rash, but the clamones i had to use some weird shampoo on my groin for weeks.

[Rise Me Up]

Lol

[Coma_Girl]

2 daugthers...one is nammed jazz, the other one is lola...i think he also had a stepdaughter...i dont remember her name.when he died, one was 7 years old, one was 15, and i dont know for the other.she was older.

[guns_of_brixton]

Its lame that Joe's kids hated his music. Apparently the apple falls far from the tree.

[Coma_Girl]

but to them it must be normal to have joe strummer as a dad...and they were probably mad at him cause he was never there.my dad is never there and im mad at him.and i dont know how to explain this...but they probably werent really impressed by his talent cause it was their dad...you know?they always lived with him and all...

[TheNowhereman42]

people always say kids rebel against whatever they are brought up on, but then how come potheads parents all smoke pot?

I'm 16 btw

/off topic sorry andy

[Coma_Girl]

it must be awesome when your dad played in the clash and the mescaleros...I had a dream a while ago about it cause i was listening to the mescaleros before going to bed...Joe was my dad and he forced me to go camping with him cause he wanted to have a conversation with me.So we were talking about politics and music and it was awesome. :upset:

[TheNowhereman42]

he forced you to camp? haha

[Coma_Girl]

i hate camping.but camping with Joe might be interesting.

[guns_of_brixton]

I like camping :).

I think if Joe was my dad, hopefully I would still realize how aweome his music was.

Also, I found some pics of Paul's bass with the painted frets, but I can't post them :(.

[TheNowhereman42]

Joe probably hated camping too

[Coma_Girl]

ive heard a story about a festival the mescaleros were playing...and the guys were looking for him backstage...finally they found him near the river, playing guitar with the fans around a camp fire. (it was like a 3 days festival)

[sketchyjoe]

He liked Glastonbury.

[Coma_Girl]

what is glastonbury?

[guns_of_brixton]

Does anyone here own a 101ers album?

[TheNowhereman42]

a campgrounds I assume

[Coma_Girl]

it must be a british thing.

no i cant find it **to sean**

[guns_of_brixton]

Did they only record one album?

[Coma_Girl]

keys to your heart and elgin avenue breakdown or something like that...im not sure.

[guns_of_brixton]

Thanks I'll try and look for them.

The first few pics on this page have the bass w/painted frets.

EDIT: link was wrong i'll fix it.

[sketchyjoe]

what is glastonbury?
Big British music festival.

[TheNowhereman42]

whats that got to do with camping?

[White Riot!]

Do you think strummer was a one off for the universe or will he re-incarnate in another form?

[Coma_Girl]

people camp there?

[TheNowhereman42]

camping at a music festival isn't really camping

and white riot your post count is 777

[Coma_Girl]

i wouldnt camp at a music festival either.

[guns_of_brixton]

Do you think strummer was a one off for the universe or will he re-incarnate in another form?

I'm not sure how to answer this :confused:.

I would camp at a music fetival if the Clash were playing there :).

[CombatRock]

this thread was on the second page!!

white riot..what are you talking about Joe being anohter form?

[guns_of_brixton]

Do you guys consider Joe to be the best songwriter of all time? Because I certainly do. The only others that are even close (for me) are Neil Young and Jello Biafra.

[sketchyjoe]

Jello > Joe

[guns_of_brixton]

I can definetly understand that, but I like Joe more.

Off topic, but we should bump the Jello profile and turn that into a huge discussion.

[CombatRock]

i would discuss in the jello thread

joe and jello are both really good people and really good songwriters i cant say one is better than the other.cos thats to hard...

wonder if jello and joe met?

[Forest_Fire]

Jello performed naked one time at a concert with the clash... so I guess they did meet at least once

[Brain Toad]

Jello profile bumped. I think they met, if not, they should've. But I think Jello looked up more to The Ramones than to The Clash.

[Silvermedalmafia]

Do you guys consider Joe to be the best songwriter of all time? Because I certainly do. The only others that are even close (for me) are Neil Young and Jello Biafra.
Tom Waits>Neil Young, Lou Reed>the rest. The top of the rest are really close; Strummer, ray Charles, Jim Morrison etc.

[Coma_Girl]

yeah, I like Joe more.I started my photography project all over again cause I decided to change the subject and to make it in memory of Joe Strummer.Now I don't know what to call it...ideas?suggestions?

[sketchyjoe]

Death or Glory? London Calling? Combat Rock? London's Burning? Police and Thieves?

Just pick a song or album title you like.

[sketchyjoe]

Tom Waits>Neil Young, Lou Reed>the rest. The top of the rest are really close; Strummer, ray Charles, Jim Morrison etc.
Tom Waits is awesome.

[Coma_Girl]

Just pick a song or album title you like.
I like them ALL!

[Coma_Girl]

Do you think strummer was a one off for the universe or will he re-incarnate in another form?
that's a good question... :eek: i dont know

[sketchyjoe]

I like them ALL!
Pull one out of a hat. You want one that summarises his life. Death or Glory would be good for that.

[Coma_Girl]

sketchy, i hate the way you're always right about everything.


thanks.death or glory is a good idea.

[sketchyjoe]

sketchy, i hate the way you're always right about everything.


thanks.death or glory is a good idea.
A lot of people hate me because of that.

[Silvermedalmafia]

And I love you for being my loveslave.

[Forest_Fire]

I hate each and every one of you.



I just got back from the bookstore. They had two Clash books there, one was "The return of the last gang in town", and the other was "Joe Strummer and friends". Both were over $20 so I couldn't get either

[Coma_Girl]

i want to read the return of the last gang in town.


Joe Strummer & friends...what a gay title:lol:

[TheNowhereman42]

being gay is punx

sup kids?

[Coma_Girl]

Meantime, We're cutting our hands
On the ke-bab shop
In the streets of fear
Forgetting all those best
Tai-kwon-do moves
On a barrel of beer
We trying to get a signal
Through from Ragga F.M
Do the D.T.I
Bust CNN?

[guns_of_brixton]

Joe and Jello did meet. I SWEAR I once saw a pic with Jello, and the Clash. I forgot where though :confused:.

[sketchyjoe]

The Clash definitely knew of DK. There's an interview in which the interviewer asks Joe if there's such a thing as an american punk band and he says no but Mick says "What about the Dead Kennedys?"

[CombatRock]

you better find it!


plz :thumb:

[guns_of_brixton]

Yea, I want to read that.

I also read an interview where the interview asked Joe if he liked any straight edge bands. Joe said something about not being sure what straiht edge was because "In England we like our beer and cigarettes!"

EDIT: 2000th post in the thread! :chug: