The Official Clash & Joe Strummer Thread

[CombatRock]

only things i have heard by them is on westway to the world..

there just like an old rock band thats basically it

[guns_of_brixton]

There's about 15 seconds worth of a 101ers song in Westway. It sounded pretty cool.

[Coma_Girl]

and uhh... on topic... does anyone know where i can find a picture of the joe strummer memorial painting?
sure.i'll post them here tomorrow

[Coma_Girl]

are the 101ers any good?
come on!everything joe ever did = awesome.

but seriously, i have some songs somewhere on my computer...it's not GOOD but it's not BAD.

[CombatRock]

i saw this cool pic thing..it was a graffti work of joe strummer and in the back ground was green yellow red..it looked preety sweet

[guns_of_brixton]

Lets just say they're definetely better than the album-that-must-not-be-named :D.

[TheNowhereman42]

Cut the Crap?

[guns_of_brixton]

Cut the Crap?

Shhhhh, children are listening! :D

But to answer your question, yes.

[TheNowhereman42]

never heard it lol

[guns_of_brixton]

never heard it lol

:lol:

It never existed... But on Westway at the special features where it shows the discography and plays a song from each album, the song they had on there sounded like and over-produced piece of crap. Blame it on Chimes.

[TheNowhereman42]

aah

[Coma_Girl]

yeah lets blame 'the lamborghini guy' for the album-that-must-not-be-named and for everything that ever went wrong with the clash!(if there's any beside the album-that-must-not-be-named)
:evil:

[IMONXTC]

side 6 of sandinista was pretty bad but at least it had real drums. i always leave "the 6th clash album" out of my discography listing. and bernie rhodes is responsible for the glorious beginning and miserable ending of the only band that matters; terry chimes just sucks.

[guns_of_brixton]

yeah lets blame 'the lamborghini guy' for the album-that-must-not-be-named and for everything that ever went wrong with the clash!(if there's any beside the album-that-must-not-be-named)
:evil:

Sometimes I wonder if he actually ever got a Lamborghini. I hope not :evil:.

[IMONXTC]

i hope he got one and then crashed it. ****er. by the way can someone help me with soulseek...it wont let me register without making a donation.

[TheNowhereman42]

yeah lets blame 'the lamborghini guy' for the album-that-must-not-be-named and for everything that ever went wrong with the clash!(if there's any beside the album-that-must-not-be-named)
:evil:

I dodn't like most songs off Combat Rock either

[White Riot!]

This Thread Rocks.


Im going to get a sandInista! vinyl pressing on friday , can't wait! :thumb:

[guns_of_brixton]

I dodn't like most songs off Combat Rock either

Topper was still with the band when they recorded Combat Rock. I like it alot, and I think its awesome how it starts with "This is a public service announcement... with guitaaaaars!"

[sketchyjoe]

Chimes played on The Clash. He can't be that bad.

On Cut The Crap it was only Simonon and Strummer with 3 other guys.

[Forest_Fire]

yeah lets blame 'the lamborghini guy' for the album-that-must-not-be-named and for everything that ever went wrong with the clash!(if there's any beside the album-that-must-not-be-named)
:evil:

This thread is turning so harry potter

[Forest_Fire]

Oh man, no one's reading it.:upset:

I found this sort of ironic

[guns_of_brixton]

Chimes played on The Clash. He can't be that bad.

On Cut The Crap it was only Simonon and Strummer with 3 other guys.

One of those 3 other guys was Chimes. Another was named Nick Shepperd or something.

[Coma_Girl]

I like it alot, and I think its awesome how it starts with "This is a public service announcement... with guitaaaaars!"
i agree.

one of my favorite clash song ever is straight to hell.and it was awesome to hear it live and acoustic (thanks to thenowhereman) :amaze:

[Coma_Girl]

I think ska pirate asked for pictures of the mural yesterday.i have more, but those are the ones of the final result...redemption song mural in NYC:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v111/xfull_collapse/murale1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v111/xfull_collapse/murale2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v111/xfull_collapse/murale3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v111/xfull_collapse/muralecomplete.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v111/xfull_collapse/muralecompletenight.jpg

[guns_of_brixton]

i agree.

one of my favorite clash song ever is straight to hell.and it was awesome to hear it live and acoustic (thanks to thenowhereman) :amaze:

Yea, I think its a good album with a few bad songs.

[Coma_Girl]

At the G7 summit, well we've got some 25
And we're putting it into the gin supply
We want a satellite crashing outta the skies
And a firework display by ballistic missiles

cool'n'out -the mescaleros

i had to share it.it's just beautiful...i'm amazed. :amaze:
i want more lyrics by joe :upset: i think ive read them all


(working on my meskies profil)

[TheNowhereman42]

I think its a bad album with a few great songs, eg. Know Your Rights

[guns_of_brixton]

I think its a bad album with a few great songs, eg. Know Your Rights

I don't like it when people judge the Clash by that album, just because it had some hit singles. Somebody in Westway said that it was the beginning of the end.

And to Andy, keep up the good work :thumb:.

[Coma_Girl]

I think its a bad album with a few great songs, eg. Know Your Rights
straight to hell is great great great!

You wanna play mind-crazed banjo
On the druggy-drag ragtime U.S.A.?
In Parkland International
Hah! Junkiedom U.S.A.
Where procaine proves the purest rock man groove



King Solomon he never lived round here!

[Coma_Girl]

And to Andy, keep up the good work :thumb:.
thanks.but it wont be ready soon cause i have to translate everything and i have an history project on the beginning of the punk movement, and i have interviews to do and i'm going to shows...and i try to have a life.but most of the time really, i just sit in my bedroom with my headphones on listening to streetcore and then i come here and post something about the clash.


I need a life.

[TheNowhereman42]

I mostly liked London Calling and the S/T, I didn't like Combat Rock other than a few awesome songs. Give em Enough Rope. Sandanista!, etc, I havn't heard much about.

I'd like to check out Sandanista! though, does it have anything in it about the acctual Sandanista revolution?

[Coma_Girl]

nothing can beat the s/t us version, except maybe the mescaleros.MAYBE.

i dont know a lot about the revolution, so i dont know.

[White Riot!]

i really like Tommy Gun , but not many people like it.

[StreetlightRock]

Heya guys, this thread is awsome! I mostly post in the R&M forum, ive got like 3 posts in punk, but The Clash do TOTALLY rock, i mean, i love rock and metal bands and all, but ive only got one poster in my room and its of The Clash - a testament to my love for them, hah.

No but seriously, Jimmy Jazz is the coolest song in the world. "Look like a soldier... feel like a theif!" LOVE those lyrics. lol, i feel like a noob. But i hardly ever talk about the Clash, all my friends think there wired and yea...

^Oh, i like Tommy Gun... i remember walking down a street once, listening to my CD player, and like, it was the last time i was gonna see a good friend of mine, whose house i just left, and i like almost cracked while Tommy Gun was playing. The Clash can have that effect on peopel, hah. /memories.

DVG.

[AndreTheHyena]

Man, Give 'em Enough Rope is choice. I have a GEER tour poster, I don't think it's original but it's still badass. It's the one with the Statue of Liberty all tied up.

[guns_of_brixton]

Heya guys, this thread is awsome! I mostly post in the R&M forum, ive got like 3 posts in punk, but The Clash do TOTALLY rock, i mean, i love rock and metal bands and all, but ive only got one poster in my room and its of The Clash - a testament to my love for them, hah.

No but seriously, Jimmy Jazz is the coolest song in the world. "Look like a soldier... feel like a theif!" LOVE those lyrics. lol, i feel like a noob. But i hardly ever talk about the Clash, all my friends think there wired and yea...

^Oh, i like Tommy Gun... i remember walking down a street once, listening to my CD player, and like, it was the last time i was gonna see a good friend of mine, whose house i just left, and i like almost cracked while Tommy Gun was playing. The Clash can have that effect on peopel, hah. /memories.

DVG.

Welcome to the thread :thumb:.

And I think somebody was asking about the Sandinista revolution... all I know is that it took place in Nicaragua, which is in Central America, I think.

[White Riot!]

ive seen it , its killer man!

[sketchyjoe]

Welcome to the thread :thumb:.

And I think somebody was asking about the Sandinista revolution... all I know is that it took place in Nicaragua, which is in Central America, I think.I could go into loads of detail about the Sandinistas as I know a lot about them but I can't be bothered to type a lot at the moment so:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandinistas

[White Riot!]

Check out this pic of the clash!

http://www.smh.com.au/ffxImage/urlpicture_id_1040511008763_2002/12/23/theclash,0.jpg


Check out strummer! Wax on! Wax off! :lol:



its not easy being green!

[White Riot!]

Paul Simonon smashed his bass guitar - as photographed on the cover of London Calling - at exactly 10.50pm. This is because he broke his watch in the process and handed the busted bits to photographer Pennie Smith

This is scary because strummer left us when he was 50 and talked to simonon on his last night

[sketchyjoe]

That isn't scary in any way.

[Forest_Fire]

I think ska pirate asked for pictures of the mural yesterday.i have more, but those are the ones of the final result...redemption song mural in NYC:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v111/xfull_collapse/murale1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v111/xfull_collapse/murale2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v111/xfull_collapse/murale3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v111/xfull_collapse/muralecomplete.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v111/xfull_collapse/muralecompletenight.jpg


Thank you very very much :)


This is why you are queen here

[guns_of_brixton]

And I'm the king, right?

MX looks all ghetto at school :upset:.

[Coma_Girl]

This is scary because strummer left us when he was 50 and talked to simonon on his last night
it's not scary, but it's sad.


i have seen the GEER poster in montreal but i havent bought it.I have this one where it's written Joe Strummer (1952-2002) and on the pictures they're all smoking and wearing leather jacket and i think joe have a hat and a shirt with a dragon.I'm sure you know which picture i'm talking about :rolleyes: but its the coolest poster ever.I also have the one where they all have guitars and it's written 'paris 1979', but its not on my wall yet.

[Forest_Fire]

One of my friends bought the GEER poster a couple years ago becuase he thought it looked cool, even though he didn't know who the clash were. I have the london calling one in my room; I just got it for christamas

[Coma_Girl]

i saw this really cool original clash shirt once but the guy at the store didnt want to let me buy it.he wanted to sell me something he just printed...i was like 'no i want this one!pleaaase.'...and then my friend made me realise that even if he would sell it, i'd have to pay something like 200$

[CDR_Cool]

One of my friends bought the GEER poster a couple years ago becuase he thought it looked cool, even though he didn't know who the clash were. I have the london calling one in my room; I just got it for christamas
Is that the GEER north america tour poster with the statue of liberty on it? I really want that poster, but I can't find it anywhere

[Forest_Fire]

Is that the GEER north america tour poster with the statue of liberty on it? I really want that poster, but I can't find it anywhere

Yeah. They have it a local record store here. Try looking online for it

[Coma_Girl]

yalla yalla.

[Forest_Fire]

My school project on the clash isn't coming along very nicely. It has to be 10 powerpoint slides, and so far I have 4, and none of those are pretty.

[White Riot!]

do a google image search on the clash , you can find alot of good images

[Forest_Fire]

image search is blocked at school. they found out that we kept hacking through the blocking system and somehow they put up something so we can't get around it the old way anymore. :upset: We have to find a new way. But I need some substantial text to go along with pictures

[Forest_Fire]

wait... maybe I could include a link to this thread

[Coma_Girl]

hey ska (ohhh wait.suicide machines reference)

i have tons of good clash images if i can help you :)

[TheNowhereman42]

image search is blocked at school. they found out that we kept hacking through the blocking system and somehow they put up something so we can't get around it the old way anymore. :upset: We have to find a new way. But I need some substantial text to go along with pictures

ask some computer geeks for a good IP address you can run through a proxy, thats what I do

[StreetlightRock]

Hey guys, im wondering if you could help me out a bit. Were doing a thing on 'change' for english, and we have to get a text relating to 'change in perspective'. I figured it'd be intresting to do song lyrics, and the more i think about it, the more The Clash bit the bill, just that, im not too sure which songs deal with change and all their meanings and such, ive never really taken the time to go through Clash lyrics, i figure mabye you guys would know some good songs with lyrics relating to change?

thanks,

DVG.

[guns_of_brixton]

I can't think of anything off the top of my head. I know there is a site that is something like songmeanings.com or something like that.

[TheNowhereman42]

Hey guys, im wondering if you could help me out a bit. Were doing a thing on 'change' for english, and we have to get a text relating to 'change in perspective'. I figured it'd be intresting to do song lyrics, and the more i think about it, the more The Clash bit the bill, just that, im not too sure which songs deal with change and all their meanings and such, ive never really taken the time to go through Clash lyrics, i figure mabye you guys would know some good songs with lyrics relating to change?

thanks,

DVG.

Revolution Rock is about the changing of music in whole, destroying the old and bringing in the new. One of my favorite songs too.

[Forest_Fire]

ask some computer geeks for a good IP address you can run through a proxy, thats what I do

That is exactly what I did during computer today, but nobody could find one that wasn't blocked by the system

[TheNowhereman42]

d'amn

[Coma_Girl]

i was listening to death or glory in the car, with my headphones on, and something really strange happened.it's like i couldnt breath cause the song was...eee..stuck in my throat...i cant explain really, but its a weird feeling.i just started feeling all dizzy and feeling like i was gonna puke or something.i listened to this song at least 200x before and it never did that.you know when a song makes you sad or angry or happy...it was all that at the same time but 100 worst. :upset:

[guns_of_brixton]

i was listening to death or glory in the car, with my headphones on, and something really strange happened.it's like i couldnt breath cause the song was...eee..stuck in my throat...i cant explain really, but its a weird feeling.i just started feeling all dizzy and feeling like i was gonna puke or something.i listened to this song at least 200x before and it never did that.you know when a song makes you sad or angry or happy...it was all that at the same time but 100 worst. :upset:

Death or Glory is a really amazing song. I play the third verse over and over again every time I listen to it. And it always feels like something stuck in my throat because I have tonsilitis :(.

[Forest_Fire]

Ouch. Are you going to have them removed?



I love that song too, although I don't listen to it as much as I should

[guns_of_brixton]

I most likely will have them removed :upset:. I just love how Death or Glory sounds. Its a perfect song, in my opinion.

[Coma_Girl]

the hands that slap his kids around cause they dont understand...


man, thats sad :upset:

[White Riot!]

The Card Cheat and Straight to hell are the two saddest clash songs IMO.........Great lyrics

You gotta do Koka Kola in your project man

Koka Kola is an awesome song about corporate culture and the way that most advertisers make every product seem close to a drug without actually being one , and coke was the first company to do that. (since they needed to keep their existing base of customers when they had to remove KoKaine out of the drink)

Koke Adds Life was an advertising slogan of coca cola (with a c not a K of course)


Here is Strummers awesome quote that is very relevant to Koka Kola

"in a world that builds on illusion. advertising is illusion... [...] in america, they're gone... i tell you they're gone... you go to california.. i'm talking really simple basic things.. you touch a piece of wood.... wrong! this wood is not wood. this wood looks like wood. [...] people smile at you... wrong! they've been told by the management to smile at you. so really, you're not seeing anything that's real... not the objects, the buildings, the signs, everything is fake. [...] and what they get we will get later... if the world is moving towards that then i'm not interested... i like to come back here cause here in london we have reality, we have people shoving you out the way... that gesture, it's clear. this guy's in a bad mood and he's shoving me out the way... that is real communication... in california, they'll sue you. they'll sue you or smile at you while he's thinking of shoving you out the way... "

hope this helps you ska

[sketchyjoe]

The Card Cheat is one of the saddest songs around.

[guns_of_brixton]

"To the opium den and the barroom gin
In the belmont chair playing violins
The gambler’s face cracks into a grin
As he lays down the king of spades

But the dealer just stares
There’s something wrong here, he thinks
The gambler is seized and forced to his knees
And shot dead"

A very cool and sad song indeed.

[guns_of_brixton]

If anyone cares this is the 5th largest thread in the punk forum.

[Coma_Girl]

ohhh today my friend found an interview with Joe in the Rock & Folk (a gay french magazine) and it was pretty good (and sad).Joe explains why they choose the name Mescaleros and how he was afraid of destroying the career of the other guys in the meskies cause the first album didnt work well.And he talks about being on drugs and understanding techno music...ohh anyway.the last words were : "Comment la mort ou la gloire sont devenus juste une autre histoire'. and i thought it was beautiful and thought the guy who did the interview was awesome...then i realized he just translated lyrics from death or glory.I never realized how words are powerful before i started listening to the clash.

[guns_of_brixton]

"Comment la mort ou la gloire sont devenus juste une autre histoire'.

Is that "Death or glory becomes just another story" translated into French?

[Coma_Girl]

oui :thumb:

[guns_of_brixton]

/has never spoken French before :).


Also, alot of the Spanish in Clash songs has gramatical errors.

[sketchyjoe]

Grammar nazi.

[guns_of_brixton]

Grammar nazi.

Its so true :(.

[Coma_Girl]

the clash should have wrote a song in french.i think there's a couple of line in french in one meskies song.i can't remember but im pretty sure its on rock art.

[guns_of_brixton]

Do you like my user title Andy?

[chips88]

ask some computer geeks for a good IP address you can run through a proxy, thats what I do

google beijing999, and a site thats like, www3.beijing999.com will come up, go to it, scroll down, there is a search space, type in whatever web address you want to go to :) cheers

[Coma_Girl]

Do you like my user title Andy?
ohhh dude, that's a good try...
but i think it would sound better if you say 'Sachez vos droits' :thumb:

[guns_of_brixton]

I fixed it :thumb:.

[Forest_Fire]

google beijing999, and a site thats like, www3.beijing999.com will come up, go to it, scroll down, there is a search space, type in whatever web address you want to go to :) cheers

Hmmm.. maybe I'll try that


What does it mean, guns of brixton?

[guns_of_brixton]

It means "Know your rights", or "Will Know your rights."

[Coma_Girl]

it means Know Your Rights.

it's hard to translate songs.most of the time it makes no sense

[lynch_me]

Why is this thread still going?

[Scabies]

Joe is keeping it alive from up in the clouds

[lynch_me]

he could probably care less.

[Coma_Girl]

Joe is keeping it alive from up in the clouds
what if he went straight to hell?


and we're keeping it alive for him

[CombatRock]

ooh..its so nice to be back on this thread...i finnally got the computer back after it crashed
hello all!!!

[guns_of_brixton]

it means Know Your Rights.

it's hard to translate songs.most of the time it makes no sense

Yea, I tried translating that Clash Photo Rockers site into English. The word "transfer" kep coming up, but I think they ment break up.

And its nice to have you back Travis :wave:.

[CombatRock]

i was listing to ivan meets gi joe today..its a werid song..dosnt topper sing it?

[White Riot!]

yes that be true....

Toppers Cool Quote

"It's taken Joe's death to make me realise just how big The Clash were. We were a political band and Joe was the one who wrote the lyrics. Joe was one of the truest guys you could ever meet. If he said 'I am behind you', then you knew he meant it 100 per cent."

[White Riot!]

here are some cool strummer pics for ska pirate.


Strummer goes Polka Punk!
http://clashphotorockers.free.fr/images/pose/03posestrummer01.jpg

Strummer is Hung up/Strung Out!
http://clashphotorockers.free.fr/images/pose/03posestrummer08.jpg

Passion is a fashion!
http://clashphotorockers.free.fr/images/pose/01posestrummer10.jpg

Rockabilly!
http://clashphotorockers.free.fr/images/pose/02posestrummer11.jpg

Thats not a knife , This is a knife!
http://clashphotorockers.free.fr/images/pose/02posestrummer12.jpg

Modern Samurai!
http://clashphotorockers.free.fr/images/pose/04posestrummer09.jpg

man this guy has style in spades!


a good site for clash photos is http://clashphotorockers.free.fr

[Anti-Prefix]

My favorite Clash CD is by far their first self-titled one, other than that I can't seem to get into it. I have 'Combat Rock' as well which I can't get into.

Any suggestions for an album I should hear that will redeem themselves?

[guns_of_brixton]

You could try Give 'em Enough Rope (my avatar), it sounds like their self titled but was produced "better". By better, I mean it has better sound quality. Its not as good as their self titled, but still a very good album.

[sketchyjoe]

I hate the production on GEER. It spoiled the album in my opinion.

[CombatRock]

i have only heard a few song from that album..but the ones i heard were really good songs...whats wrong with the production on it?

[sketchyjoe]

It was too polished IMO but maybe I should give it another listen. It's been ages since I listened to it.

[guns_of_brixton]

It was produced by Sandy Pearlman, the same guy who did Blue Oyster Cult. The guitars were too loud and ther wasn't enough bass in my opinion, and the vocals were too polished also.

[sketchyjoe]

He didn't get the point of The Clash. He was trying to make them more radio-friendly.

[guns_of_brixton]

And it didn't even work. It peaked at like 128 on the charts in America.

[CDR_Cool]

He didn't get the point of The Clash. He was trying to make them more radio-friendly.
do you get the point of The Clash? :p

[CombatRock]

on the clash (uk verison) is white riot played live..if any one has heard that version white riot sounds live or somthing of that nature

[Coma_Girl]

"Joe was one of the truest guys you could ever meet."
I never met Joe but I'm sure it's true, and that's why the world is more miserable than ever since he died.True people are hard to find.

[guns_of_brixton]

on the clash (uk verison) is white riot played live..if any one has heard that version white riot sounds live or somthing of that nature

I don't think I've ever heard it. I only have the US version.

[CombatRock]

ooh..is the us version like the one on Essential Clash?

[Coma_Girl]

i cant find the UK version. :upset:

yesterday my friend told me he tried to buy me a clash record...one original pressing of london calling that one of his friend found somewhere...but someone else bought it :angry:

[guns_of_brixton]

i cant find the UK version. :upset:

yesterday my friend told me he tried to buy me a clash record...one original pressing of london calling that one of his friend found somewhere...but someone else bought it :angry:

Original pressing... wow.

And to Travis, yea, the US version is the one with the sirens at the beginning.

By the way has anybody ever heard the version of Career Opportunities on Sandinista? Its really funny :lol:.

[Forest_Fire]

I heard a clip of it and thught "What the hell?" The other version of Career Opprtunities is one of my favourite songs

[Forest_Fire]

By the way, thanks a lot White Riot and Andy for helpling me with my project :thumb:

[guns_of_brixton]

I think the guy who sings it is like 7 years old. Sandinista has alot of weird songs.

[Coma_Girl]

sandinista is a piece of art.it's just...HUGE.

[CombatRock]

Original pressing... wow.

And to Travis, yea, the US version is the one with the sirens at the beginning.

By the way has anybody ever heard the version of Career Opportunities on Sandinista? Its really funny :lol:.


whats so funny about it?

[guns_of_brixton]

whats so funny about it?

The vocals are done by a little kid, and the lines "I hate the army an' I hate the R.A.F. I don't wanna go fighting in the tropical heat. I hate the civil service rules, and I won't open letter bombs for you." are replaced with "I hate all of my school's rules. They just think that I'm another fool."

[Coma_Girl]

Joe was one funny guy.It's enough to make the song funny.Even when the song is about something serious, theres always a line that makes me laugh

[white_riot]

I have the UK Version and White Riot doesnt sound live. I'm pretty sure it is not live.

[guns_of_brixton]

I just want my 1000th post to say that Joe Strummer is my hero. Death or Glory is a serious song, but I always crack a smile when I hear " He who fu.cks nuns will later join the church." Joe may have left us, but this thread will always keep him alive :).

That last part sounded a bit religous.

[skankinBassist]

Congrats on the 1,000!!

Joe Strummer is a god.

[guns_of_brixton]

Congrats on the 1,000!!

Joe Strummer is a god.

Thanks ;).

[Forest_Fire]

Wooo. We got our 1000th posts on the same day. Even though I joined about 5 months after you. :upset:

Anyway, this is my 100th post in this thread, therefore it is special




And my clash project for school is looking awesome

[Coma_Girl]

I just want my 1000th post to say that Joe Strummer is my hero. Death or Glory is a serious song, but I always crack a smile when I hear " He who fu.cks nuns will later join the church." Joe may have left us, but this thread will always keep him alive :).

That last part sounded a bit religous.
yeah, this line makes me smile too.
i'll get my 1000th post today too!

[GhettoBox]

Joe Strummer is a hero to me as well. :) And I have had the pleasure of meeting him. (the ,escaleros)

[Forest_Fire]

Tell the story, now! and how old are you?

[CombatRock]

i didnt know you have met the meskies..why didnt you tell me this andy!

[Coma_Girl]

i didnt know you have met the meskies..why didnt you tell me this andy!
because I never met the Meskies...

[Forest_Fire]

:lol:

3 more posts, andy

[CombatRock]

because I never met the Meskies...
wait i though u just said you did

[El_Shiznit]

That was somebody else............













In before the 1,000th post!!!!!

[Coma_Girl]

I'm glad that my 1000th post is in the Joe Strummer thread, and that it's the same day as Ska Pirate (forgot your name again, you can throw rocks at me) and Sean got theirs.Party at my house guys.
I remember my first post here was about The Clash.So now, you all already know I'm a clash whore.I don't even know why they mean so much to me.Well, yeah, I know, but I won't get in the details cause it's emo and boring.I love the clash....and I love Joe...twilililili

Clash City Rockers!

I'm in love with this thread. :thumb:

[Coma_Girl]

wait i though u just said you did
it wasnt me.


:upset: i wish i had met them though

[El_Shiznit]

You had better remember Ska_Pirate's name.


It's the same as mine, and that is important.

[Silvermedalmafia]

Dustin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[El_Shiznit]

You ruined the mystery...............

[Coma_Girl]

well, this name doesnt exist in quebec.
that's my lame excuse for not remembering it :upset:

[guns_of_brixton]

Joe Strummer is a hero to me as well. :) And I have had the pleasure of meeting him. (the ,escaleros)

C'mon, lets hear it!

[Forest_Fire]

well, this name doesnt exist in quebec.
that's my lame excuse for not remembering it :upset:


My grandma told me Dustin is a french name!



But it's okay, she's really old and I don't believe a word she says

[guns_of_brixton]

My grandma told me Dustin is a french name!



But it's okay, she's really old and I don't believe a word she says

:lol:

Old people know nothing.

[Forest_Fire]

Except Joe. He did. Although he wasn't exactly old.





*Tries to move thread back on course so it won't be closed

[guns_of_brixton]

Except Joe. He did. Although he wasn't exactly old.





*Tries to move thread back on course so it won't be closed

True, but 50 isn't very old. And I'm listening to Death or Glory right now. Also, congrats on 100 posts in the thread. :thumb:

/does his best to help save the thread

[CombatRock]

they wouldnt close this thread if we got allitle of topic would they? you woudlnt want htat to happen though soo stay on track...

uh..joe strummer is cool

[guns_of_brixton]

If it was closed, I'd beg them to re-open it.

Also, does anyone know what Ivan Meets G.I. Joe is about? Its avery strange song indeed.

[Coma_Girl]

:lol:

Old people know nothing.
wrong.they know everything...they just forget a lot.


I think Joe would have been awesome at politics.With Joe Strummer as a president, the world would be safe and (almost) perfect.have you ever thought about it?seriously. :amaze:

[guns_of_brixton]

wrong.they know everything...they just forget a lot.


I think Joe would have been awesome at politics.With Joe Strummer as a president, the world would be safe and (almost) perfect.have you ever thought about it?seriously. :amaze:

I'm not so sure. He said "If Karl Marx couldn't make the world a better place, how can 4 guitarists from London?" But you never know, Joe was a very humble guy.

[Forest_Fire]

Joe is too much of a "True" guy to be in politics. Nobody would like him, because he wouldn't be telling everyone want they wanted to hear. I think he delevired his messages in the perfect way though

[guns_of_brixton]

Yea, I think Joe was too true for politics. Complete Control might work well as a campaign song though :D.

EDIT: Holy crap, I've got 302 posts in here.

[Forest_Fire]

quick update on that:


User Name / Posts
guns_of_brixton 302
Coma_Girl 286
combatrock*bass 218
SlappedByTheClash 136
Ska_Pirate 105
TheNowhereman42 103

[guns_of_brixton]

Wow, I'm a Clash whore.

[Coma_Girl]

I'm not saying he would have liked being president, and that people (except us) would have voted for him, but he had great ideas.I've read something in a french magazine....The readers voted Joe as the artist they would have wanted for president.Joe answered with his 'electoral program' and it was really good.I need to find it and to scan it...I wonder if he ever realized he is so important to some people...maybe Sean is right...he was too humble to know it.or at least to know just how much he had an impact on younger generation

[Coma_Girl]

Wow, I'm a Clash whore.
:upset: you beat me.

[guns_of_brixton]

True, I don't think any of the Clash knew how "big" they were until Joe died. I think White Riot posted a Topper quote about that.

[CombatRock]

yea..with out Joe i think they would just be another rock and roll band...i dont think Mick would have led the clash in the direction that Joe did

[White Riot!]

yeah your right , but Jones was a great bandleader who had great songwriting abilities. Mick was the tunesmith while Joe was mostly the heart and soul of the music that the clash made , a true rock rebel

I think the combination of Mick , Joe , Paul and Topper was magical and one in a million. Mick brought great musicianship and songcrafting , Joe brought his passion and heart to it , Paul brought diversity to the music because of his upbringings in brixton , Topper brought musicianship and diversity and precision to the table as well.

The sum of the Clash was much greater than the value of its parts.

without any of them the Clash would not be Clash , that definently includes Paul and Topper.

[sketchyjoe]

I wouldn't argue that Topper was an integral part of the group but he didn't play on 'The Clash' and that's a great album.


Oh, and someone claimed that Terry Chimes was one of the three guys who joined Joe and Paul on Cut The Crap and actually it they were Nick Sheppard, Vince White, and Pete Howard. Chimes was just a stand-in when Topper quit/was sacked.

[CombatRock]

yeah your right , but Jones was a great bandleader who had great songwriting abilities. Mick was the tunesmith while Joe was mostly the heart and soul of the music that the clash made , a true rock rebel

I think the combination of Mick , Joe , Paul and Topper was magical and one in a million. Mick brought great musicianship and songcrafting , Joe brought his passion and heart to it , Paul brought diversity to the music because of his upbringings in brixton , Topper brought musicianship and diversity and precision to the table as well.

The sum of the Clash was much greater than the value of its parts.

without any of them the Clash would not be Clash , that definently includes Paul and Topper.

your very right...i mean without paul the clash would have little or no reggae influnce..which was a major part of the band

[guns_of_brixton]

The sum of the Clash was much greater than the value of its parts.

Right on, man.

And Paul was definetly a huge part of the Clash. On the first album his basslines were the only thing holding the music together, and like Travis said, gave them the reggae influence. And without Topper we wouldn't have Rock the Casbah or Revolution Rock for sure. And as far as drummiing abilities go, Topper>Chimes.

[CombatRock]

i didnt know topper wrote revolution rock

[guns_of_brixton]

I don't think he wrote the words, just the music. And the percussion in that song is great.

[Forest_Fire]

That entire song is great. Why does no one talk about it much?

It was my favourite clash song at first

[guns_of_brixton]

I think it might be the Clash's longest song. But agreed, its an amazing song, and I liked the laid back feel of it.

[CombatRock]

topper is preety good..i aboustly love the video of the clash when there playing "clampdown" life..and topper is doing some cool stuff near the end of the song

[TheNowhereman42]

what a great song

[Forest_Fire]

Can you find that video online? I love clampdown.... everyone does

[guns_of_brixton]

A few months ago I was listening to Clampdown and at the end of the song, right as it fades out, somebody screams out "Who's barmy now?" It scared the crap out of me. :lol:

[TheNowhereman42]

Paul Weller beat the s'hit out of Sid Viscious once, proving mod>punk

[guns_of_brixton]

Huh?

[Forest_Fire]

Paul Weller beat the s'hit out of Sid Viscious once, proving mod>punk

Prince Buster beat the s'hit out of Paul Weller once. Rudies > both








*has no idea who the paul guy is

[guns_of_brixton]

"London Calling, to the mods on the run"

[Coma_Girl]

Can you find that video online? I love clampdown.... everyone does
its one of my favorite song.but i dont even know what clampdown means...there's no translation for it..so can someone explain what the word means in other words...please? :upset:

[guns_of_brixton]

"Clampdown" is kind of a British thing I guess. I've never really heard it here in America. I think it means a repressive government or like a restriction or law against something.

[Forest_Fire]

Sounds about right

[TheNowhereman42]

Prince Buster beat the s'hit out of Paul Weller once. Rudies > both








*has no idea who the paul guy is

guy from the Jam

I don't think british people say clampdown either, least i've never heard it over on the jolly olde island

[Coma_Girl]

it must be some gay hitler-related organization or something like that. :evil:

[CombatRock]

i always though clampdown was a system of government who forces you to do somthing..and makes you change how you think and your way of life..but im probley wrong

[Coma_Girl]

Taking off his turban, they said, is this man a Jew?
'Cause they're working for the clampdown
They put up a poster saying we earn more than you!
When we're working for the clampdown
We will teach our twisted speech
To the young believers
We will train our blue-eyed men
To be young believers


it leaves me thinking it has something to do with nazis.but i may be wrong as well cause i'm not good in history and stuff like that

[Forest_Fire]

No search results on wikipedia

[Coma_Girl]

i'll ask my english teacher tomorrow.he loves the clash.and he knows a lot of things

[guns_of_brixton]

i always though clampdown was a system of government who forces you to do somthing..and makes you change how you think and your way of life..but im probley wrong

No, thats actually pretty much what it is.

[guns_of_brixton]

The line "Kick over the wall, cause government's to fall" is kind of weird because it almost predicted the fall of the Berlin wall about 7 years later.

[CombatRock]

ooooommmmmmmmmmg "kick over the wall cos governments to fall how can you refuse it?"..is my fav lyrics line in the world its sooo great..andy gave me the translation in french it was my msn name for soem time but not anymore

[CombatRock]

http://www.songmeanings.net/lyric.php?lid=47761


these are what these people think "clampdown" represents

[White Riot!]

I love that bit in Revolution Rock where its goes "El-Clash Combo....... Weddings..Parties...Anything and bongo jams a speciality!" and the bongos are playing almost solo.


I love that song it goes on forever

[CombatRock]

wow i have never heard them say that..i need to go listen to that song again

[White Riot!]

its around 5:10

[guns_of_brixton]

And then it starts talking about mobsters at the end.

[White Riot!]

I really love the little subtleties in the clash's music , you just dont get that in most music anymore

[guns_of_brixton]

Thats so true, in almost every song theres just a few words that you sometimes catch.

[Coma_Girl]

I really love the little subtleties in the clash's music , you just dont get that in most music anymore
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[guns_of_brixton]

Its weird how at the beginning of Jimmy Jazz it sounds like there are people talking.

[Coma_Girl]

maybe its because there's people who are talking for real...or maybe its in your head.

I love how Joe sounds like he's reading a story in some parts of this song.

[guns_of_brixton]

maybe its because there's people who are talking for real...or maybe its in your head.

I love how Joe sounds like he's reading a story in some parts of this song.

It might be in my head ;). And I'm still looking for Guy Stevens screaming when the chairs fell on him which Topper said is on London Calling.

[Coma_Girl]

i think topper said you can ear it when they recorded, but they must have took another take...

[sketchyjoe]

i'll ask my english teacher tomorrow.he loves the clash.and he knows a lot of things
When there is a clampdown on smething it means to government, police etc are restricting it or enacting specific measures to prevent it.

Eg A clampdown on guns in schools.

[Coma_Girl]

thanks sketchy :D

are you my english teacher? :amaze:

[guns_of_brixton]

i think topper said you can ear it when they recorded, but they must have took another take...

Yea, probably. I listened to London Calling all the way through today during my history exam and I didn't hear it.

[Coma_Girl]

i think i'll get my *** kick for saying that, but i can't listen to london calling anymore.i got sick of it.and i'm getting sick of pretty much all other clash albums right now, so i listen to BAD and JS&TM all the time.

It's not a good thing when i get sick of the clash....it means i'm gonna be really really depressed soon. :upset:

[Forest_Fire]

:eek:

[Coma_Girl]

:eek:
:upset: dont look at me like that

[User Name]

i'm getting sick of pretty much all other clash albums right now

even cut the crap?

[Forest_Fire]

It's okay, I've been in a ska-core mood latley. Less clash for me too, except when I'm working on my project

[Coma_Girl]

HE SAID THE C-WORD!
KILL HIM..! :evil:

[Forest_Fire]

/uses laser vision to melt his feet to the ground, where he is attacked and killed by seagulls

[Coma_Girl]

It's okay, I've been in a ska-core mood latley. Less clash for me too, except when I'm working on my project
im working on a project too, but its on punk vs society in the 70s...i talk a lot about the clash, because they're awesome. :cool:

[User Name]

uh... me?

[Coma_Girl]

yeah...you said...the c-word.you talked about the album that never really existed.burn in hell.(straight to hell boy...)

[sketchyjoe]

i think i'll get my *** kick for saying that, but i can't listen to london calling anymore.i got sick of it.and i'm getting sick of pretty much all other clash albums right now, so i listen to BAD and JS&TM all the time.

It's not a good thing when i get sick of the clash....it means i'm gonna be really really depressed soon. :upset:
It means you should listen to more than one band.

[CombatRock]

im working on a project too, but its on punk vs society in the 70s...i talk a lot about the clash, because they're awesome. :cool:

that sounds like a cool project when your finished post it here or show me on msn sometime.....

i havent listen to the clash that much latley..dropkick murphys are in my cd player right now

[Coma_Girl]

i listen to more than one band...but the clash are my favorite by far.

[CombatRock]

yeap..no other band will ever come close to the clash





EVER!

[purple_passion_rocket]

yeap..no other band will ever come close to the clash





EVER!


the ramones are wayyyy better

[Coma_Girl]

it depends on people...not everybody love the clash.

anyway goodnight clash city rockers.i should go to bed...i think i'm gonna puke. :upset:

[Coma_Girl]

the ramones are wayyyy better
hmm no

[purple_passion_rocket]

i love the clash too but the ramones are my heroes

[purple_passion_rocket]

yep

[CombatRock]

the ramones are wayyyy better
ahhahahahahhahahhahahahahha






no

[purple_passion_rocket]

Yep

[CombatRock]

then why you in this thread?

[purple_passion_rocket]

it was there,i was bored,and i like the clash just not as much as the ramones

[CombatRock]

ride on brother








go away

[sketchyjoe]

yep
The Clash didn't make the same album over and over again.

[CombatRock]

ahhaha thats twice toinght sketchy that you have made me laugh out loud


(first one in the DK thread)

[Silvermedalmafia]

I have decided that each side of London Calling is equal. there are four of them, for you non vinyl types.

[CombatRock]

my fav side is side 2...spanish bombs,right profile,lost in the supermarket,clampdown,guns of brixton...great

[Forest_Fire]

I agree!








/has no idea what you are talking about

[Coma_Girl]

i couldnt sleep so im back, and im gonna puke on my keyboard.

i agree.side 2 is good.but the whole album is pretty good anyway.
and i agree that the clash never made the same album over and over again...and that's why they are better than the ramones.and because joe had a lot of talent at writing lyrics, and whoever was writing the lyrics in the ramones (dee dee i think?) was kinda lame (depends on the songs).
The clash were also 100x times better than the ramones just because they didnt hate each other (except at the end) and they were all friends and i think it helped them a lot to create the best music ever.

that's why we call the clash The Only Band That Matters.
and that it's true.

[purple_passion_rocket]

no comment

[CombatRock]

cos you just got pwned

[purple_passion_rocket]

yep,pretty much

[CombatRock]

yeap .so you may leave now


god job andy buy the way

[purple_passion_rocket]

i could...

but im not gonna :)

[Forest_Fire]

Is it just me, or is the quality of this thread going downhill the past hour?

[CombatRock]

i could...

so i will

sweet...


we need to keep this on track so it want get closed...


does any off yall own clash records on vinyl..i have london calling but i wanna get give em enough rope

[CombatRock]

Is it just me, or is the quality of this thread going downhill the past hour?


yea it was..noobs who dont know the clash are commingin..but lets try to get it back on thread....btw..i nominated you as noob of the month :thumb:

[TheNowhereman42]

I have London Calling Origional Pressing oh yaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[closet_punk]

this thread has been open for fuc'king weeks

[Forest_Fire]

All I have on vinyl is a couple ac/dc albums.... so no.



And does anybody have some random clash sites I can put in my bibliography? I need 10, and I only used about 3 sources.

[TheNowhereman42]

yea it was..noobs who dont know the clash are commingin..but lets try to get it back on thread....btw..i nominated you as noob of the month :thumb:

you can't he won last time

[CombatRock]

i thought andy (coma girl) won last time


to ska pirate..did you use this as one?

[Coma_Girl]

yeap .so you may leave now


god job andy buy the way
why do you want him to leave?he can join us even if he likes the ramones!

[Coma_Girl]

All I have on vinyl is a couple ac/dc albums.... so no.



And does anybody have some random clash sites I can put in my bibliography? I need 10, and I only used about 3 sources.
i did a pretty good biography of the clash for a website i used to have, but its in french... :upset:

[Forest_Fire]

i thought andy (coma girl) won last time


to ska pirate..did you use this as one?

I won in Jan.

And I could, but the link wouldn't work. Forums are blocked

[CombatRock]

why do you want him to leave?he can join us even if he likes the ramones!
hes just spamming it up..he hasnt said a usefull thing yet

[CombatRock]

I won in Jan.

And I could, but the link wouldn't work. Forums are blocked

just google im sure you will find places with clash websites

[CombatRock]

http://www.angelfire.com/on/clash/

http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palladium/1028/

http://launch.yahoo.com/ar-303672-bio--The-Clash

http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/The-Clash-Biography/5E5BEC8B1CB23BF6482568AB002C9528


http://www.mp3.com/the-clash/artists/3309/biography.html


http://www.artistdirect.com/loserkids/store/artist/bio/0,,415394,00.html?artist=The+Clash

here you go...hope that helped

[Coma_Girl]

me and travis were talking about it just now...

were topper and joe friends again before joe's dead?
joe and mick were...cause the last show mick joined joe on stage.
joe and paul were cause joe called paul the day before he died.

and what about mick and paul, mick and topper, & paul and topper? :confused:

[Forest_Fire]

D'amn boy.


Thank you very much :thumb:

[guns_of_brixton]

Purple passion rocket, you need to stop spamming this thread or leave.

And Dustin, you can toss this site in your bibliography if you want, even though you probably already know it.


http://clashphotorockers.free.fr/sommaire.htm

[Forest_Fire]

Yeah, I got a bunch of induvidual pictures from there

[guns_of_brixton]

me and travis were talking about it just now...

were topper and joe friends again before joe's dead?
joe and mick were...cause the last show mick joined joe on stage.
joe and paul were cause joe called paul the day before he died.

and what about mick and paul, mick and topper, & paul and topper? :confused:

I know Paul and Mick were friends, they worked on alot of the Legacy London Calling together. I'm not sure about the others though :confused:.

[CombatRock]

ooh yea..for sure mick and paul are friends..i for got about london legacy thing..

[Coma_Girl]

http://clashphotorockers.free.fr/sommaire.htm
i love this website.theres an awesome picture of Joe wearing the PASSION IS A FASHION jacket.And there's the picture of joe with the 101ers and he looks really really weird.and awesome band pictures

[Forest_Fire]

I don't know much about Topper. Pretty much just what I've heard in this thread and:

Drummer Topper Headon wasn't an original member of the Clash, but it was his arrival that helped push the group to the next musical level, as he quickly became an integral part of the group. Born Nicholas Bowen Headon on May 30, 1955 in Bromely, Kent, Headon grew up a soul and jazz fan (an early influence was ace fusion drummer Billy Cobham), as he was once a member of a local group that opened a show for the Temptations. It was through an acquaintance, guitarist Mick Jones, that Topper got the heads up about a try out with the Clash in 1977 - after the group had gone through an extraordinary amount of drummers during their short timespan together. With the group already enjoying a substantial following and signed to Epic Records, Headon agreed to join up with the group. But Headon's original plan was to stay with the Clash for only a year - which he figured would give enough time to get his name known, so he could move on to another more 'suitable' group. But Headon quickly realized that the group was not just a one-dimensional punk band, as they branched out and touched upon a wide variety of styles - all the while never losing sight of their original punk ideals. Headon appeared on such Clash albums as 1978's Give 'Em Enough Rope (on which producer Sandy Pearlman dubbed Headon 'The Human Drum Machine,' due to his impeccable timing and skills), 1979's classic double album London Calling, 1980's sprawling triple album set Sandinista! (which featured one of Headon's few lead vocals with the Clash, "Ivan Meets G.I. Joe"), and 1982's Combat Rock, the latter of which contained the Clash's biggest hit single, "Rock the Casbah," which was almost entirely penned and played by Headon.

But despite the Clash becoming one of the world's top rock outfits, a heroin addiction had drawn a wedge between Headon and the rest of his bandmates - leading to Headon being told to either 'shape up or ship out.' Unfortunately, Headon couldn't keep up his end of the bargain, which led to his dismissal from the Clash in 1982. After a planned reunion with Jones (who was expelled from the Clash himself a year after Headon's dismissal) in the group Big Audio Dynamite failed to work out, Headon focused on recording a solo album. Issued in 1986, Headon's Waking Up turned out to be an album that featured primarily soul, jazz, and R&B compositions, as well as several tracks that dealt with Headon's vices ("Got to Keep on Going," "Just Another Hit," etc.). The album failed to gain the attention of the Clash's following, as Headon was sent to jail a year later for drug-related offenses. In addition to recording with the Clash, Headon helped produce the obscure New York City new wave outfit the Bush Tetras in the early '80s (the releases Better Late Than Never, Boom in the Night, and Tetrafied), as well as playing drums on the Mick Jones-produced 1981 solo release by ex-Mott the Hoople leader Ian Hunter, Short Back and Sides. Although little has been heard or seen of Headon since his Clash days, he was extensively interviewed along with his other former bandmates for the superb Clash bio-movie, Westway to the World, in the late '90s. ~ Greg Prato