The Official Clash & Joe Strummer Thread

[guns_of_brixton]

I noticed that alot of the tracks on From Here to Eternity are from a show the Clash did at Bond's in NYC, which is a really good bootleg.

[CombatRock]

From here to enternity is a bootlegg?

[RIP Ian Curtis]

I didnt notice it was you, post here more andy!

To IAN (or whatever) what dont you like about there idealism?

I'm just not an idealist. I don't particularly like getting preached at by any kind of idealist.

[guns_of_brixton]

From here to enternity is a bootlegg?

No, but Live at Bond's is, and that is were alot of Eternity's tracks come from.

[Coma_Girl]

I bought from here to eternity and it's really good.
and I love their idealism.

and I love that too:
"At one point he remembers his flatmate (Joe) returning from a few weeks away, bursting through the front door and declaring ecstatically 'I've found God!' before disappearing into his bedroom for a few days never to mention the incident again. Another time, Joe gave mouth-to-mouth resuscitation to a drowned mouse, which had been lured into a trap consisting of a cheese baited ruler and a bucket of water."


oh yeah, and I think I forgot to tell you guys how I talked about Joe with Tim Armstrong. I'm awesome.

[RIP Ian Curtis]

yes you are.

[Mannik]

Bernie Rhodes wrote some of it, there was no Mick or Topper, and Joe wasn't Joe for that period in time.

This Is England is pretty good though, I've read.

This Is England is awesome, I'd even compare it to Washington Bullets or mabye even White Man In Hammersmith(mabye not that far).

Anyway, here it is, don't be put off by the strange percussion at the start.

hxxp://s25.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2G9S7ZAAGDDM91ZXRB5KXN9BCY

Edit: :confused: If I just read you wrong and you really have heard This Is England, you'd be pretty pi'ssed off, so sorry.

[guns_of_brixton]

Oh, I've heard it but it isn't on my computer. Thanks. :thumb:

[RIP Ian Curtis]

so, you're stuck on an island with five clash songs
what are they?

[guns_of_brixton]

Death or Glory
I'm So Bored With the USA
Magnificent Seven
Complete Control
White Man.

That was pretty hard.

[RIP Ian Curtis]

well being a total clash noob...

London's Burning
Janie Jones (the first clash song I ever heard, on the 24 hour party people soundtrack)
1977
White Riot
and Career Oppurtunities

[guns_of_brixton]

So you only own their first album?

[RIP Ian Curtis]

I've got a bunch of mp3s. I don't know any albums, I just listed what I liked. I'm not big on some of the more synthy stuff like "lost in a supermarket" or "rock the casbah". I don't mind "Police On My Back", that sounds like it came off a later album. their cover of I Fought The Law also appeals to me.

[guns_of_brixton]

The Clash > Career Ops, White Riot, Complete Control, London's Burning
Give 'em Enough Rope > Safe European Home, Tommy Gun, Guns on the Roof
London Calling > Rudie Can't Fail, Death or Glory, Lost In the Supermarket, Guns of Brixton
Sandinista! > Police on my Back, Mag 7, Junco Partner, The Leader
Combat Rock > Rock the Casbah, Straight to Hell, Know Your Rights, Should I Stay?

[RIP Ian Curtis]

oh. So I picked songs all of the first album. what a faux paus *embarassed*

[guns_of_brixton]

Nothing wrong with that, it's a great album.

[RIP Ian Curtis]

indeed it is. apparently it's called The Good, The Bad and The Ugly sometimes? I've only ever seen it called "The Clash" but then again their whole catalogue got confused in importation no?

[guns_of_brixton]

Hmmm... I've never heard it called that... but it is the biggest selling import of all time.

[RIP Ian Curtis]

is it? cool.

[Strummerville]

I wondered if there were any fans of Clash's 'Broadway'. The one on Sandanista, I really like it, it's a bit unusual but great nethertheless.

[Strummerville]

Also, RIP Ian Curtis, I'm assuming you're a Joy Division fan. I'm just getting into them and would like to know a full list of their albums. and which are the best.

Sorry for going off topic boys and girls!

[CombatRock]

so, you're stuck on an island with five clash songs
what are they?

Guns of Brixton
Clampdown
Whats my Name
Straight to Hell
Stay Free


only at the moment though.

[Mannik]

so, you're stuck on an island with five clash songs
what are they?

I chose the songs that would fit an island setting(supposing it is the typical tropical island).

Let's Go Crazy
Washington Bullets
White Man In Hammersmith
Revolution Rock(how cool would it be just to lay under the shade of a palm tree and listen to this song?)
Safe European Home

[Rise Me Up]

Hey,did you guys hear about the Clash movie they're making and having that guy from The Used play Joe?

[CombatRock]

What!

[Coma_Girl]

so, you're stuck on an island with five clash songs
what are they?

straight to hell
white man in hammersmith palais
clampdown
magnificent 7
safe european home


woah it's HARD
(and if i'm allowed to bring another song, it would be death or glory.)

[Coma_Girl]

Hey,did you guys hear about the Clash movie they're making and having that guy from The Used play Joe?
:lol:

[CombatRock]

He was joking about that right?

[EightMilesHigh]

'sup thread, long time no see.

He was joking about that right?

If he wasn't....god forbid.

I got Streetcore the other day.

[CombatRock]

How do you like streetcore, one of my favriote cds!

[Mannik]

'sup thread, long time no see.



If he wasn't....god forbid.

I got Streetcore the other day.

That's the one with Redemption Song on it isn't it? If so I want it.

[CombatRock]

Yea it is the one, get it, I got that album for that reason and now thats one of my least favriote songs on the album.

[Mannik]

Yea it is the one, get it, I got that album for that reason and now thats one of my least favriote songs on the album.

Really? Sh'it it must be good. Any chance of YSIing it?

[CombatRock]

I dont know how to use YSI. Wait till Sean or Dustin get on they might know. Or just ask in the YSI thread.

[Mannik]

I dont know how to use YSI. Wait till Sean or Dustin get on they might know. Or just ask in the YSI thread.

Alright thanks.

[EightMilesHigh]

That's the one with Redemption Song on it isn't it? If so I want it.

It is. It's really good, 'specially "Coma Girl."

np: Tommy Gun

[guns_of_brixton]

Long Shadow is the best song on that album.

[CombatRock]

I disagree with you, nothing beat Burnin Streets, i just got done listing to it aswell.

[guns_of_brixton]

Y'know I wonder if Andy cries whenever she listens to Silver and Gold... because it really sad and she's the crying type.

[CombatRock]

Im sure she does, the ending is the saddest thing ever. Sadder than the notebook, or I imagine its sadder than the notebook.




/has never seen the notebook.

[G-Reg]

Man no1 talks about Super Black Market Clash, some of the songs are great, yet some are real wierd. But, all ture Clash fans must have it. To enjoy, or collect.I really like it.

[RIP Ian Curtis]

hey strummerville, I'm not really an albums cat, I go for best ofs and mp3s. But substance is one of the few albums I've actually forked out for and it's worth it. If you can find their really early stuff it's interesting to compare to their later, more well-know stuff. Basically I'd recomend you get their Best Of album, work out what sortof songs you like more (old, punker stuff from when they were still Warsaw, half and half stuff, or full on post-punk with synth like "Love Will Tear Us Apart). Then decide which album you would prefer based on that. And then if you really like them, buy all the albums. That is my advice...

[guns_of_brixton]

The Notebook is some f'ucking movie, eh?

And I've got Super Black Market. It is pretty cool, but most of the stuff at the end is weird and boring.

[Strummerville]

Thanks for the advice Curtis. I like both Warsaw and Love Will Tear Us Apart but I'll have a trawl through their stuff soon. I'll probably Substance too.

Regarding Super Black Market Clash, there are some of my fave Clash songs on there. 'Gates Of The West', '1977', the cover of 'Pressure Drop' are all quality.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

WHITE RIOT !

WHITE RIOT !

SHOULD I STAY OR SHOULD I GO !

The only 2 clash songs i can think of :cool:

[guns_of_brixton]

WHITE RIOT !

WHITE RIOT !

SHOULD I STAY OR SHOULD I GO !

The only 2 clash songs i can think of :cool:

Awesome :cool:.

Surely you know Rock the Casbah.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

I dunno, what does it go like ?

[AIRIC]

dun dun dun dundun rockin the casbah, rockin the casbah.

[guns_of_brixton]

hxxp://s40.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=32AZ41EFF14FG0PP17X443MNEO

[CombatRock]

The Notebook is some f'ucking movie, eh?

And I've got Super Black Market. It is pretty cool, but most of the stuff at the end is weird and boring.
When you say the end, do you mean the end of the clash or the end of Super Black Market Clash?

[guns_of_brixton]

The end of Super Black Market. But the album is done chronologically (big word) so that stuff is from the end of the Clash's career.

[sketchyjoe]

I thought it was released mid-career though.

[guns_of_brixton]

Black Market was released mid-career so the fans could have songs like Capital Radio and I Fought the Law that were'nt released on the UK s/t or any album for that matter.

Super Black Market was after the Clash was over and had EVERY rarity from 1976-1983 or so.

[RIP Ian Curtis]

man I re-listened to Rock The Casbah the other day. Still a crappy song but it has some rather interesting lyrics that I didn't pick up on before.

"degenerate the faithful with that crazy casbah sound"

strangely applicable, thought I

[Coma_Girl]

Y'know I wonder if Andy cries whenever she listens to Silver and Gold... because it really sad and she's the crying type.
just when I'm already sad. :upset: (i always listen to streetcore when i'm sad..) but anyway, redemption song makes me cry more than silver and gold.

oh yeah, and about rock the casbah:

I went to this really crappy bar with my friends (cause they don't ask if you're 18) and it was empty, so we asked the dj for "rock music", but the music still sucked so we went outside. He came outside and asked us what we wanted to hear and obviously I said "The Clash". He started talking about this time in 1979 where he was totally drunk and saw them in a small club in montreal and how they played London's Burning (I'm sure he was lying..)
Anyway, he said he really liked them back then and he sang almost all the songs from the self-titled to london calling. It was scary. And he put rock the casbah. and danced....eww.

[Silvermedalmafia]

trust the french to do something weird like that.

[Silvermedalmafia]

and for the record, rock the casbah isn't a crappy song.

[The Clash]

Noone gets the chorus right in that song

[guns_of_brixton]

and for the record, rock the casbah isn't a crappy song.

Not at all, great song in fact. And I find it funny that it was the "theme song" for Operation Desert Storm.

[CombatRock]

Whats Operation Desert Storm, are you talking about the war we are in right now, cos i didnt know it had a theme song.

[guns_of_brixton]

The Gulf War :rolleyes:. It wasn't a "theme song" per se (i do not know what the f'uck "per se" means. i just had to say it.) but they played it for the soldiers over there.

[CombatRock]

Intersting i didnt know that. Nothing goes better with the clash than rallying up troops for war?

[guns_of_brixton]

I hope you are being sarcastic, really...

[CombatRock]

What are you talking about, clash loved war, Hate and War? Duh...















edit: :p

[Brain Toad]

Whats Operation Desert Storm, are you talking about the war we are in right now, cos i didnt know it had a theme song.

Operation Desert Storm was George H.W. Bush's war with Iraq.

[AIRIC]

I'm so goign to knock the clash off of Hurt/Heal.

[CombatRock]

Psh. ya right, Clash shall win that hurt and heal.




(those are getting very annoying, there taking over MX)

[sketchyjoe]

They suck.

[RIP Ian Curtis]

i don't like rock the casbah. I find it highly amusing that it was the themesong to gulf war one though.

[CombatRock]

They suck.
:lol: . I love your sense of humor :thumb:.

[CombatRock]

If anyone cares, i put Joe Strummers redemption song video on my myspace, tell me and i will post the URL.

[guns_of_brixton]

Strummer's birthday was Sunday.

[Silvermedalmafia]

Clashheads, specifically GoB, I'm getting bored with those hogs doing lame-o punk songs. Up for a clash one?

[Forest_Fire]

You guys have been going strong without me. Cool.


I'll watch that video, travis.

[guns_of_brixton]

Clashheads, specifically GoB, I'm getting bored with those hogs doing lame-o punk songs. Up for a clash one?

Absolutely... I'm up for any song, whatever you want.

[CombatRock]

You guys have been going strong without me. Cool.


I'll watch that video, travis.

Im guessing this is dustin? I would do a clash song but i dont know how to record on the computer and what not.

[Forest_Fire]

I might be able to do bass, if you need it. Depends on what song you want to do.

[guns_of_brixton]

Rush by BAD is in the Movie Big Daddy, which is on tv. Very good song really, classic Mick Jones.

[CombatRock]

I love how The Clash name describes their sound and how BAD name describes their sound :lol:

[Forest_Fire]

My english teacher told me today that he wanted to see something about the clash in my project. :)

[Coma_Girl]

I love how The Clash name describes their sound and how BAD name describes their sound :lol:
:rolleyes:

My english teacher told me today that he wanted to see something about the clash in my project. :)
what kind of project?

[Forest_Fire]

We're making quilts about our lives. It seems very middle schoolish, but I'm not complaining; it's easy as hell. I just draw a bunch of pictures of stuff I like.

[Rise Me Up]

:rolleyes:


what kind of project?


I haven't saw you in FOREVER.

[Coma_Girl]

We're making quilts about our lives. It seems very middle schoolish, but I'm not complaining; it's easy as hell. I just draw a bunch of pictures of stuff I like.
cool...i hope you won't ruin the clash and try to draw a picture of them... :upset:

I haven't saw you in FOREVER.
it's because i haven't been here in forever. :wave:

[punkrock_oz]

the clash is the greatest actual punk band ever. that is all.

[Rise Me Up]

the clash is the greatest actual punk band ever. that is all.

That's a great way to make your first post. :thumb: Welcome to the forums.

[CombatRock]

the clash is the greatest actual punk band ever. that is all.
123!

I had a dream i met this girl at my school who liked the clash as much as i did, she was obese to.

[CombatRock]

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=384649&page=1&pp=25


I know this isnt 100% true, but what do you guys think of this? If its true, i dont know what to think.

[Strummerville]

I've just read that thread. Looks a bit dubious, but if it were true, I would like to go see it, since I wasn't alive to see the band first-hand.

Obviously it will be a little hollow considering Joe's tragic absence, but it's the Clash nethertheless. What of Topper? Will he appear?

[CombatRock]

Why not they just get back together and have mick and paul sing, they have enough songs with them on vocals to do a set.

[SlappedByTheClash]

I think I won't go to that.


I believe it's a disrespect to Joe's memory. But I highly doubt it's truthfulness.


Has anyone picked up that Walker record? I saw it at FYE and I was like, whoas! It isn't a rumor! It's like a soundtrack written by Joe to a western movie.

[CombatRock]

Walker record? What are you talking about?

[guns_of_brixton]

I've heard of Walker, and I want it. The actual movie sucked though, I've read.

I don't but the "re-uniting" thing, and if it IS true then they aren't in it for money. Remember, they had Sandinista! sell at the price of a single album.

[CombatRock]

Yea somone from that thread said they are doing it for the love of music, plus they dont seem like the type that need money to go out and buy a lamborgini either.

[SlappedByTheClash]

The Walker record actually sounds good. I've heard a few tracks, and the basslines are f'ucking tasteful. A couple songs sound like random mariachi band filler, but when Joe sings again, it's all worth it.


And I don't think they're doing it for money either, but still...It shouldn't be done.

[guns_of_brixton]

The chapter of Let Fury... that talked about all of the movie stuff that Joe did is one of the best. And the Latino Rockabilly War (Joe was with them after doing Walker) had a guy from Sham 69 I think, or some other punX band. I'll have to re-read.

[CombatRock]

Somone explain this walker thing to me :confused:

[guns_of_brixton]

Walker was a movie in the 1980s about some American soldier who declared himself Dictator of Nicaragua (same place as the Sandinista revoltionaries) in the 1860s. Joe composed the soundtrack, the movie tanked, but the soundtrack sold 10,000.

[CombatRock]

Does joe sing all the songs in it.

[SlappedByTheClash]

Does joe sing all the songs in it.


I believe a few are instrumentals, but he certainly wrote them all.

[the clash rule89]

hey man just read your clash post u did good u like a lot of good songs to

[redstainedeyes]

I can't believe any of you guys are actually considering not going to a Clash reunion show.

[guns_of_brixton]

I would go to the Clash reunion, but it won't happen. I don't think its been confirmed.

[alkalinesk8er]

I would go... But I wouldn't pay more than 10 bucks to see Tim Armstrong front them...

[guns_of_brixton]

Well... I was thinking... how AWESOME a Clash reuninon would be if it was fronted by Mike Ness.

[alkalinesk8er]

Well... I was thinking... how AWESOME a Clash reuninon would be if it was fronted by Mike Ness.

OMG! I would pay like 30 bucks to go see that, and if I didn't have the money, I would murder the ticket guy.

How bout Ian Mckay?

[redstainedeyes]

I forget who said it, but a better idea (if this were true) would be to play a set of Jones/Simonon songs.

[CombatRock]

I would go, just seeing Mick and Paul would make me die happy, specially Paul, i like him just the same if not more than Joe. How much do you think tickets would be?

[redstainedeyes]

No clue...I'm pretty sure it's not happeening so I'm not worried about it.

[Forest_Fire]

Yeah, I don't think its real. Don't getcha hopes up.

[Bobby Pyn]

if it's true, go. if it isn't true, go anyway.

[AB/CD]

id rather see shane magowen take joes place cos when listening to the nips i thought shane sounded a good bit like Joe

[CombatRock]

I have the best idea! Dont replace Joe Strummer.

[AB/CD]

well u no how do u no it wouldnt work like ya no joe yes ok main part of band but sure it worked for Bands like AC/DC

[CombatRock]

I didnt understand one thing you just said haha?

[AB/CD]

basically i get the impression that u think if the clash did reform (if they did they would need to replace joe unless they done songs that mick and paul sang on) that u dont think it would work with some1 else but then again how do u no it wont. it might not be the clash fully but u would still get that same energy from them (unless they r all using walking sticks by now which i doubt)

[Forest_Fire]

So is english your second or third language?

[AB/CD]

may aswell be half the stuff i say sounds ballocks due to growing up in Belfast u pick up a bit of everything here

[guns_of_brixton]

AC/DC shouldn't have replaced Bon Scott. The Clash should not replace Strummer. BUT DONT BUY IT GUYS IT AINT FOR REAL!

[SlappedByTheClash]

may aswell be half the stuff i say sounds ballocks due to growing up in Belfast u pick up a bit of everything here

How do you pick up talking like a crippled baboon?

[redstainedeyes]

crippled baboons are indigenous to Northern Ireland, and are often recruited as teachers for the children.

[CombatRock]

So is english your second or third language?
:lol: :lol: .

Dont replace joe, just do songs mick and paul sing on, mick could probley just sing the songs joe sang as well.

[SlappedByTheClash]

crippled baboons are indigenous to Northern Ireland, and are often recruited as teachers for the children.

Ah.


I suspect that's because the children are too wasted too care?

[guns_of_brixton]

I would be excited if this was Mike Ness instead of Tim.

And Tim Armstrong sings like a retarded cunt. Ya might as well let Paulo sing, because Paul Simonon singing = retarded **** singing. And Mick had a good ability to sing and play at once... they could just let him do it.

[SlappedByTheClash]

I would be excited if this was Mike Ness instead of Tim.

And Tim Armstrong sings like a retarded cunt. Ya might as well let Paulo sing, because Paul Simonon singing = retarded **** singing. And Mick had a good ability to sing and play at once... they could just let him do it.

Mike can do Death Or Glory really good. But on something like Bankrobber?


I can see that falling apart pretty fast.

[CombatRock]

I would be excited if this was Mike Ness instead of Tim.

And Tim Armstrong sings like a retarded cunt. Ya might as well let Paulo sing, because Paul Simonon singing = retarded **** singing. And Mick had a good ability to sing and play at once... they could just let him do it.

Would that mean Tim would play bass for guns of brixton? I loves pauls retard voice haha.

[RIP Ian Curtis]

and mick does that awesome staggering dance...

[JohnXDoe]

It's not going to happen. I'm glad it's not. Can you imagine the Clash without Joe? Simple as that. I'm sure no one else can, either. They have no reason to come back. And really, who's gonna sing Joe's songs? Tim? Mike? No way. He wrote those songs. He meant those songs. Certainly they can be covered, but they should not be performed again under the name of the Clash. And why the Clash now? The world doesn't need the Clash, version 2.0, for no reason or purpose at all. And replacing Joe with Tim would be like replacing John Lennon in the Beatles with Liam Gallager. It's just not right. Not for money, not for fame, not for the fans, or even for the sake of the music. Not even close to right.

The Clash existed in a moment of time that was special because they made it special. And they helped bring meaning and purpose to punk rock and furthered the meaning and purpose of rock n roll in general. They left behind a great legacy and a fine example of what a rock n roll band could be if they only cared enough about the music and brought a message with it. They broke down barriers, musical and otherwise, and wouldn't take no for an answer. And as time goes by they may very well be remembered as the band that made punk stick, so to speak.

Nah, they ain't coming and I'm happy about it. What we don't have, we won't miss. It comes at too high a price and compromise. I say we let the Clash rest in peace. And let Joe rest with 'em.

[SlappedByTheClash]

Wow. You actually made me proud with that statement.


I promised myself i wouldn't cry...

[RIP Ian Curtis]

*thunderous applause* i like that little line about making punk "stick", theres definately something in that, although I'm not quite knowledgeable enough to figure the whole deal out. And the comparrison to John Lennon/Liam Gallagher was sheer brilliance, and I hate John Lennon.

[CombatRock]

Wow. You actually made me proud with that statement.


I promised myself i wouldn't cry...

Yes, i nominate that for the best post ever in this thread! So its a 100% fake or what?

[guns_of_brixton]

THAT is what I've been trying to say, JohnXDoe just said it 100x better. The Clash were a mythical band, I can't explain it but the guy who wrote The Last Gang in Town can. Death or Glory, White Riot, Washington Bullets, Straight to Hell, White Man, I'm So Bored With the USA, Clampdown, Revoution Rock Tommy Gun, ****, even THIS IS ENGLAND wouldn't mean much without Joe yelping like a fool up there.

[CombatRock]

Would Tim start muttering and stammering lyrics on stage?

[guns_of_brixton]

Well, (Rancid is ok, don't get me wrong) but Tim thinks he is Joe Strummer anyways. If I was there and he did I would throw something towards the stage if I didn't have WAY too much respect for Paul, Mick, and Topper.

[Forest_Fire]

Tim would be killed by rabid clash fans at the first show.

[CombatRock]

Tim dosent have the balls like Joe either, i cant see Tim hitting somone in the head with his guitar, well i cant even seem him lifting up a guitar.

[redstainedeyes]

I think he lifts it up too much...it's like vertical in his hands. I think he has Downs or something.

[CombatRock]

Hahah yes he does have downs. My only complaint is he better not play a telecaster, that would be very dis respectful.

[redstainedeyes]

Word.

[alkalinesk8er]

Hahah yes he does have downs. My only complaint is he better not play a telecaster, that would be very dis respectful.

Don't kid yourself. If there was a reunion, Tim would play a tele.

[CombatRock]

I would jump on stage and punch him then, that would be very disrespectful!!!

[Mannik]

^^^123

[Forest_Fire]

I would jump on stage and punch him then, that would be very disrespectful!!!

Tim would be killed by rabid clash fans at the first show.

(123)

[CombatRock]

hahah, poor tim. kinda feel bad for him. now tim could have a reason to have a brittish accent.

[guns_of_brixton]

:lol:

Most of the fans would be 40 years old or fag kids like me who were born 5 years after Cut the A'ss.

[CombatRock]

hahah yeap, i was born 6 years after cut the crap. but im older than you i thought? i think there would be more teens than grown ups.

[Mannik]

:lol:

Most of the fans would be 40 years old or fag kids like me who were born 5 years after Cut the A'ss.

I was born that year too :cool:

For some reason I got the impression you were like 19 CombatRock.

[Forest_Fire]

Was CTC released in 85? If so, I'm a five-years-afterer too.

[#1!]

a little off topic but......
I used to really like tim armstrong and rancid and then I saw the transplants on the warped tour and I thought it was pretty obvious that tim was either drunk off his *** or actually retarded. I think if he did a clash reunion I would lose all respect for him.

[redstainedeyes]

I'm so unconcerned with that record that I don't know what year it was released. Not that it matters.

[guns_of_brixton]

(Cut the Crap was released in '85)

[Forest_Fire]

Woah... so Travis is younger than us? I did not know that.

[Mannik]

I'm considering buying it. They've got it at one of those "Everything Is $10" shops near me ($10 in Australia is fu'ck all) but I'm not sure if it's even worth that. Anybody got it?

[guns_of_brixton]

No, Travis's birthday is 1/2/90.

This Is England is a very good song. Other than that CTC is "a horribly failed attempt at pop music."

[CombatRock]

Woah... so Travis is younger than us? I did not know that.

im older than sean, i though CtC was 84?

1-2-90

[Forest_Fire]

Oh. D'amn. I'm younger than both of you, and Travis sucks at math.


I thought you guys hated This Is England. I've always liked it.

[CombatRock]

Yes math isnt my subject hahaaha, but i pwn at spanish and history.

This is england is meh....

[Mannik]

Sorry for being a typical noob, but which of you is Travis?

[CombatRock]

Me.

[Forest_Fire]

Guns of brixton = sean
me = dustin
coma girl = andy

[redstainedeyes]

This Is England is probably the best song (I've only heard like 3 of them), and it sucks.

[CombatRock]

Guns of brixton = sean
me = dustin
coma girl = andy

Andy never post anymore though, and mimmick or whatever, shes crys allot haha. jp andy if you read this.

[Mannik]

I love This Is England

[redstainedeyes]

It's not really a Clash song though. That's my beef with it.

[Mannik]

Yeah I can kind of see why people wouldn't like it, but I love the feel to it,(not to sound like a queer) it's really inspiring.

[Drummer Ted]

http://s40.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2X6NBKRF4B8C23DRLQY468WSY5
The Guns of Brixton, live at the Palladium in NYC. Enjoy.
dude, can you upload that file again? I'd really like to hear them live there

[guns_of_brixton]

Uh, sure, just give me a few minutes. Unfortunately the Palladium show had bad sound quality.

[guns_of_brixton]

I was in a YSI mood... so...

http://s6.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0D6MJP1LQ0BZ73C5L6TG3PFFNN

Palladium Guns of Brixton, 1979

http://s6.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3LZFMUHG3ECNX34K0OWZMYQDEF

Bond's Guns of Brixton, 1980

http://s6.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3CY258C7BXJQV0B2K0Q7ZR4A7D

A live Straight to Hell that every Clash fan deserves to hear.

[JohnXDoe]

I was in a YSI mood... so...

http://s6.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0D6MJP1LQ0BZ73C5L6TG3PFFNN

Palladium Guns of Brixton, 1979

http://s6.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3LZFMUHG3ECNX34K0OWZMYQDEF

Bond's Guns of Brixton, 1980

http://s6.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3CY258C7BXJQV0B2K0Q7ZR4A7D

A live Straight to Hell that every Clash fan deserves to hear.

Guns, you have made my night! Thank you. I'm gonna post some wallpaper later. ;)

[guns_of_brixton]

No prob. I'll YSI some more good stuff.

[Mannik]

Mick's lead sounds really good in that first version on Guns Of Brixton

[JohnXDoe]

It's fun to share Clash stuff. :)

Here's some wallpaper I posted in yesterdays Clash/Tim Armstrong thread. So you may already have it. I'll post more later. Some of you may already have this stuff, others may not. Picked up some trojans while I was collecting it. But I cleaned 'em, so it was worth it.

http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/3919/wallpaper216ay.jpg
http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/2536/wallpaper230tg.jpg
http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/4649/wallpaper071x13av.jpg
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/4434/wallpaper061x12zk.jpg

JohnXDoe. Picking up trojans so you don't have to. :smash:

[Mannik]

My favourite is the "This is Joe public...sleeping!" one.

[JohnXDoe]

My favourite is the "This is Joe public...sleeping!" one.

Yeah, mine too. Joe. He was a character. I miss him. As corny as it sounds. I was priviliged to see him live a few times before his death, and those are experiances I will not soon forget. Hopefully never. Anyway, here's some more. I cleaned 'em up the best I could with photoshop. And there is even one of the Clash '85. Whom I have heard a live bootleg of and they were actually quite good. Enjoy.

http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/7029/wallpaper101x18ah.jpg
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/7898/wallpaper081x16mo.jpg
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/8747/wallpaper031x13ud.jpg
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/8956/wallpaper192bf.jpg
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/7985/wallpaper183ch.jpg http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/1957/wallpaper167da.jpg
http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/8931/wallpaper141x18ag.jpg
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/6008/hateful8zu.jpg
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/1331/hateful14hm.jpg
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/1940/wallpaper255ak.jpg
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/572/wallpaper051x19iy.jpg
http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/550/wallpaper111x11wh.jpg

[Silvermedalmafia]

Mick's lead sounds really good in that first version on Guns Of Brixton
Mick got great sounds. My two favourites of his are the lead on hateful and Brand New Cadillac.

[Mannik]

Yeah, mine too. Joe. He was a character. I miss him. As corny as it sounds. I was priviliged to see him live a few times before his death, and those are experiances I will not soon forget. Hopefully never. Anyway, here's some more. I cleaned 'em up the best I could with photoshop. And there is even one of the Clash '85. Whom I have heard a live bootleg of and they were actually quite good. Enjoy.

http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/7029/wallpaper101x18ah.jpg
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/7898/wallpaper081x16mo.jpg
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/8747/wallpaper031x13ud.jpg
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/8956/wallpaper192bf.jpg
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/7985/wallpaper183ch.jpg http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/1957/wallpaper167da.jpg
http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/8931/wallpaper141x18ag.jpg
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/6008/hateful8zu.jpg
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/1331/hateful14hm.jpg
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/1940/wallpaper255ak.jpg
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/572/wallpaper051x19iy.jpg
http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/550/wallpaper111x11wh.jpg

Awesome, my favourite is probably that live shot thats been digitally coloured purple. They all look really cool in it*, especially Paul, who's using that angry face. I also like the one with just Mick and some of the lyrics to Hateful.

*Mick actually looks like a dork.

[JohnXDoe]

Edit: Mick actually looks like a dork.

Yup. :lol:

He was born a wanna be ROCK STAR. Funny guy. You ever see Westway To The World? How incredibly humble he has become. Or at least he has tried. When he realy struggles with words at the end to say he was sorry for being the way he was. It's kinda cool.

The purple one is another favorite of mine, also. Those guys were beautiful.

[Mannik]

Yep I've seen it but I don't remember that bit, I oughta watch it again. What I do remember is Mick was balding. :lol:

[JohnXDoe]

Yep I've seen it but I don't remember that bit, I oughta watch it again. What I do remember is Mick was balding. :lol:

Yes. Very bald. At the end he gets choked up about things and explains in a cracked voice how he didn't know about having any "control" back then. That's what he calls it. Said he hadn't learned it yet. He wants to say sorry, but can't quite do it. But I think everyone knows what he's saying. I really did find it to be quite touching to see him become so emotional. He cared back then too, I suppose. Probably just couldn't express it.

[Mannik]

Yes. Very bald. At the end he gets choked up about things and explains in a cracked voice how he didn't know about having any "control" back then. That's what he calls it. Said he hadn't learned it yet. He wants to say sorry, but can't quite do it. But I think everyone knows what he's saying. I really did find it to be quite touching to see him become so emotional. He cared back then too, I suppose. Probably just couldn't express it.

Sounds familiar, I really should watch it again though, Mick's a great guy. Do you know what he's doing at the moment? I heard he recently produced a Libertines album.

[JohnXDoe]

Sounds familiar, I really should watch it again though, Mick's a great guy. Do you know what he's doing at the moment? I heard he recently produced a Libertines album.

Yes, he produced two Libertine albums. I think he has been an active producer and musician for the most part since BAD disbanded. A friend of mine told me he has a band called Carbon/Silicon, or something like that? Supposedly they have recorded a lot of music, but none of it has been released. I don't know why? I also hear he has been championing the causes of p2p networks and the desired rights of people to share music anyway they like. Perhaps that has something to do with his lack of official musical output. Now that you mention what he might be up to though, I would think he has a site or something. I'm gonna check it out. Hopefully the Mick Jones from that crap band Foreigner won't show up in my google search. :smash:

[SlappedByTheClash]

:lol:

Most of the fans would be 40 years old or fag kids like me who were born 5 years after Cut the A'ss.

1 year after.


I'm old and pathetic. :upset:

[guns_of_brixton]

INTERESTING FACT: Mick Jones's voice never changed.

[Silvermedalmafia]

1 year after.


I'm old and pathetic. :upset:
Go away, old fart.

[redstainedeyes]

I was so surprised when I watched Westway to the World and saw that the high voice wasn't just in the songs, but the way he actually talks.

[CombatRock]

Yes. Very bald. At the end he gets choked up about things and explains in a cracked voice how he didn't know about having any "control" back then. That's what he calls it. Said he hadn't learned it yet. He wants to say sorry, but can't quite do it. But I think everyone knows what he's saying. I really did find it to be quite touching to see him become so emotional. He cared back then too, I suppose. Probably just couldn't express it.

Thanks allot for the back grounds! My favorite is the one with the yellow tints.

[Drummer Ted]

INTERESTING FACT: Mick Jones's voice never changed.
as in, his singing voice?

Or he had the same voice as a kid?

[Mannik]

I think he means Mick's got a very similar now as to when he was in the Clash.

[guns_of_brixton]

His voice from when he was a kid. He sounds like a 12 British kid with 3 teeth. But he's the only Clashster who has a good voice for pop music.

[Mannik]

His voice from when he was a kid. He sounds like a 12 British kid with 3 teeth. But he's the only Clashster who has a good voice for pop music.

Have you seen footage of him from when he was a kid or something?

[Drummer Ted]

Have you seen footage of him from when he was a kid or something?
YSI! YSI!

[Drummer Ted]

His voice from when he was a kid. He sounds like a 12 British kid with 3 teeth. But he's the only Clashster who has a good voice for pop music.
I kind of find that very hard to believe though, unless he oringinally had a low voice as a kid

[Mannik]

YSI! YSI!

What?

[Drummer Ted]

What?
nothing

[guns_of_brixton]

What?

www.yousendit.com If you've got the file on your computer.

[CombatRock]

Those files work, complete control is so sweet live!!

[Mannik]

www.yousendit.com If you've got the file on your computer.

Haha, this is complicated. I originally asked you if you had seen footage of Mick when he was young. Then Drummer Ted said YSI! YSI! to me, which at the time I didn't get. Now I've realised that Teddy thought I had the footage on my computer(which I don't) and wanted me to send it via YSI.

Now, have you seen footage of Mick when he was young and if so where?

[CombatRock]

Yes on Westway to the World, just brief pictures though.

[Mannik]

I must have missed something. How does Sean know what Mick's voice sounded like when he was young if theres only pictures? :confused:

[CombatRock]

I doubt he has.

[Drummer Ted]

I must have missed something. How does Sean know what Mick's voice sounded like when he was young if theres only pictures? :confused:
I'm now as confused as you are

[Mannik]

Haha, forget it all then.

[CombatRock]

I would explain but im to tired, sean will clear it up for yall.

[CombatRock]

I really need to get a cd of the clash live, Complete Control live is so amazing!

[Drummer Ted]

Guy who gave the wallpapers:

Did you make those? Can you post more? :naughty:

[CombatRock]

Guy who gave the wallpapers:

Did you make those? Can you post more? :naughty:
http://clashphotorockers.free.fr/


Not wallpapers but, good pictures, and lost.

[JohnXDoe]

Guy who gave the wallpapers:

Did you make those? Can you post more?

I didn't make 'em. I braved the deep bowels of the internet to obtain them though, picking up four trojan horses along the way. Not advisable for those who don't have the time or patience to properly clean their computers. I do have more, and they will be up in several minutes. :) I may have to clean them up with photoshop first, as I did the first ones.

[JohnXDoe]

Here's the rest of them. I threw in couple of non Clash ones as well. One of which features the Clash's "new singer" :lol:

http://img361.imageshack.us/my.php?image=clash019th.jpg
http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/6500/theclash1024x7684my.jpg
http://img361.imageshack.us/my.php?image=theclash610247fn.jpg
http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/8761/theclash710240us.jpg
http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/1423/wallpaper208mo.jpg
http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/5126/wallpaper021x14by.jpg
http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/5968/wallpaper091x12rp.jpg
http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/5294/punksnotdead0045ln.jpg
http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/884/w149iw.jpg

:wave:

[CombatRock]

Your the best, whats your name by the way?

[JohnXDoe]

Your the best, whats your name by the way?

My name is John. Just like my user title. And you are welcome to call me John. Nice to meet you, and thank you for inviting me this past week to the Clash/Joe Strummer forum. It's a good place to spend some time.

[CombatRock]

Welcome man, please post here more often its usually just me Sean and Dustin we need more people to make this stronger and stronger!

[SlappedByTheClash]

Yeah, I don't post in here as much as I should.

[Daniel!]

I haven't posted here in like a month. I just got Super Black Clash Market and From Here To Eternity Live. Both are highly recommended. I now clock in at 8 official Clash albums.

[Mild_child]

Yeah, got my old account back. I'm Drummer Ted

[guns_of_brixton]

Oh hey, did you guys know that in 1973 (or sometime in the mid 70s) Joe Strummer married an immigrant woman just so she could have citizenship or a passport (I forgot exactly what it was) in exchange for a few hundred dollars (or pounds since I assume it was Brit money) which he bought the Telecaster with. He said something once in an interview like "I'd like to get a divorce, but I can't find her."

courtesy of Let Fury Have the Hour.

[SlappedByTheClash]

Oh hey, did you guys know that in 1973 (or sometime in the mid 70s) Joe Strummer married an immigrant woman just so she could have citizenship or a passport (I forgot exactly what it was) in exchange for a few hundred dollars (or pounds since I assume it was Brit money) which he bought the Telecaster with. He said something once in an interview like "I'd like to get a divorce, but I can't find her."

courtesy of Let Fury Have the Hour.

Sweet. Joe was a pimp too. I should edit that into the bio. ;)

[CombatRock]

Oh hey, did you guys know that in 1973 (or sometime in the mid 70s) Joe Strummer married an immigrant woman just so she could have citizenship or a passport (I forgot exactly what it was) in exchange for a few hundred dollars (or pounds since I assume it was Brit money) which he bought the Telecaster with. He said something once in an interview like "I'd like to get a divorce, but I can't find her."

courtesy of Let Fury Have the Hour.


Woah that is one of the coolest stories yet! I need that book!

[redstainedeyes]

That's amazing.

[JohnXDoe]

Sweet. Joe was a pimp too. I should edit that into the bio. ;)

Joe was a funny guy. I wonder how many people know that about him? That story about him getting married for money and not being able to get a divorice, for example. I can see him saying that, tongue in cheek, little smile on his face, and boyish mischief in his eye. Giving a little chuckle. Joe Public sleeping, indeed. :p

[guns_of_brixton]

That was kind of gay, but yes.

"This is Joe Public speaking" That's the best part of Complete Control.

[JohnXDoe]

That was kind of gay, but yes.

"This is Joe Public speaking" That's the best part of Complete Control.

I love the version of Complete Control on From Here To Eternity Live. Few bands can do that on stage. Opens the album great. And the wail he gives near the end. When I'm alone and I'm listening to that album, I give it a go everytime. I fail miserably, but I give it a shot nonetheless.

[Brain Toad]

Hey Clash whores I've got something you want












A bootleg of Joe Strummer playing with The Pogues

[Daniel!]

Hey Clash whores I've got something you want












A bootleg of Joe Strummer playing with The Pogues

YSI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Brain Toad]

YSI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bah, it takes forever. I may do it, but for now it's only availble from me on slsk. It's bad recording quality.

[Daniel!]

Bah, it takes forever. I may do it, but for now it's only availble from me on slsk. It's bad recording quality.

Soulseek doesn't work for me. Bah.

[JohnXDoe]

Hey Brain Squrmin' Like A Toad, I have somethin' you have.











A bootleg of Joe Strummer playing with The Pogues. :p

Mine is on cassette, though. I'll try to upload later, but it may take a bit more time then the wallpaper did. :smash:

[Brain Toad]

I've got it going on YSI now, who knows how long it'll take.

[CombatRock]

That was kind of gay, but yes.

"This is Joe Public speaking" That's the best part of Complete Control.

C-O-N CONTROL THAT MEANS YOU! Im going to go watch essential clash dvd now! I love watching them live. I wanna buy a full dvd concert on ebay but never get around to it.

[JohnXDoe]

C-O-N CONTROL THAT MEANS YOU! Im going to go watch essential clash dvd now! I love watching them live. I wanna buy a full dvd concert on ebay but never get around to it.

What is this full DVD concert you speak of? Is it a bootleg? An Import perhaps? A companion to From Here To Eternity Live? I've not heard of a full live Clash DVD. Am I missing something here? I want something like that.

I'm off to ebay! :smash:

[CombatRock]

Yea its so cool an import i think.

[CombatRock]

I went to look for some of the dvds at ebay, they didnt have any good ones at the moment!

[JohnXDoe]

I went to look for some of the dvds at ebay, they didnt have any good ones at the moment!

Very good, Combat Rock. I was going to do the same. I suppose it is probobly hit and miss with bootlegs and imports. I would love to get my hands on one of their last gigs ever as the original Clash. I think there is one circulating. Apparently it was a festival gig in San Bernadino, California, and while there was some controversy surrounding the night, I've read the performance is steller. Also they used a sit in drummer that night, as Terry Chimes had left the group. Who was ok, but I was never quite fond of. Topper was amazing, and IMO could not be replaced. Which says nothing of Terry and a lot of Topper.

Anyway, I'll keep looking around and thanks for the info.

[guns_of_brixton]

They talk about and show a bit of footage of that gig during Westway. I'd like to own it.

[CombatRock]

Very good, Combat Rock. I was going to do the same. I suppose it is probobly hit and miss with bootlegs and imports. I would love to get my hands on one of their last gigs ever as the original Clash. I think there is one circulating. Apparently it was a festival gig in San Bernadino, California, and while there was some controversy surrounding the night, I've read the performance is steller. Also they used a sit in drummer that night, as Terry Chimes had left the group. Who was ok, but I was never quite fond of. Topper was amazing, and IMO could not be replaced. Which says nothing of Terry and a lot of Topper.

Anyway, I'll keep looking around and thanks for the info.


Terry was the lamborigini guy, he was in it for a car. blah. If somone finds a good dvd post it.

[redstainedeyes]

In Westway, Joe makes it seem so outrageous that Terry would want a Lamb. And his Cockney accent really comes through when he pronounces Lamborghini.

[Brain Toad]

Sorry to anyone waiting for the Pogues thing, YSI hates me (and I return the sentienment). I still have it on SLSK, so if you get it from there you can put it on YSI.

[guns_of_brixton]

Maybe I'll hop on slsk sometime today, I'd like to hear that.


And I'm realizing how stellar the percussion is on London Calling.

[CombatRock]

Everything is stellar on that album.

[Daniel!]

Sorry to anyone waiting for the Pogues thing, YSI hates me (and I return the sentienment). I still have it on SLSK, so if you get it from there you can put it on YSI.

I'll live. :upset:

[CombatRock]

I guess we can say that rumor was 100% fake now?

[JohnXDoe]

I guess we can say that rumor was 100% fake now?

The rumour about Tim joining the Clash? Oh yeah. That was a rumor before it started, that's how far fetched it was. If it ever happened, would I check it out? Sure. I'm sure it would be fine. Would it be the Clash? No. Which means it would carry not nearly the weight or force of the Clash. It would be like a Clash cover band. Entertaining, yes. The Clash? By name only.

[Silvermedalmafia]

Maybe I'll hop on slsk sometime today, I'd like to hear that.


And I'm realizing how stellar the percussion is on London Calling.
Just now? Probably the first thing I noticed. Topper is one of the best rock drummers of his era, if not the best.

[CombatRock]

On Complete Control live, right before Joe says "This is joe public speaking" mick is saying somthing and it sounds like hes going through puberty.

[Mild_child]

mick is saying somthing and it sounds like hes going through puberty.

lol

is this from which live clash album...or a bootleg?...YSI! YSI!

[slipend]

lol

is this from which live clash album...or a bootleg?...YSI! YSI!


live from here to eternity

[CombatRock]

Yea, i want that album so bad.

[Daniel!]

It's probably one of my favorite Clash albums now. I've been listening to it a ton this past week.

[CombatRock]

Lucky, i would have bought it this week, but i spent 90$ on bass equipment.

[guns_of_brixton]

You poor souls need slsk. I've got a solid 6 Clash bootlegs :cool:. Live at Bon'd may be the best quality and energy-wise.

Topper is one of the best rock drummers of his era, if not the best.

Truth. And on Eternity the percussion he's doing on Armagideon Time is saweet.

[CombatRock]

Sean, feel free to send any songs on msn at anytime :thumb:.