The Official Clash & Joe Strummer Thread

[Coma_Girl]

3 posts after yours travis?it means I am the 3000 post! :cool:

i dont know if havana 3am is good or not.i don't know why but i have the feeling its really not that good...BAD was pretty good and the meskies were almost as good as the clash and carbon/silicon is okay...but havana 3am...hmm i dont know.i heard its really not that good, ill try to find songs on slsk.

[CombatRock]

your the 3001 :p

i would think Havana 3am would be good. common it has Paul in it!

[Coma_Girl]

his hottness wont make his music good.tidi!

when i say he's hot, i mean, YOU think he's hot...cause I don't.

[CombatRock]

how can you not andy!? are you missing eyes. its that canadian weather messing with maybe.

[white_riot]

Paul was pretty hot but in the Rock the Casbah video he looked kinda weird.

[SlappedByTheClash]

You guys are weird, Paul had a huge gap in his teeth.


3000 posts, eh?


This is truly something that deserves recognition of the creator of this thread for Punk Of The Month.


Hint, Hint.

[guns_of_brixton]

Paul=hot. Havana 3AM=probably good.

Steve can be my successor as punk of the month :D.

[Coma_Girl]

You guys are weird, Paul had a huge gap in his teeth.

that's what my mom always says.


by the way steve, without me this thread wouldnt be alive :D


and sean, did you add me to your myspace, cause i accepted someone named sean that loves the clash. and i dont know who it was if its wasnt you.i hate myspace

[CombatRock]

i hate myspace to. why do we have it. it was probley him.

[Coma_Girl]

ohhh it doesnt have anything to do with the clash, but ill try to make a connection so i wont have to arrest myself...

i went to the music world to buy a cd and saw a sex pistols dvd and there was pictures of them (recent pictures) on the back. I almost cried, it was horrible. Steve Jones is fat and ugly, and Johnny looks like he tried to stay young but hes also fat and really ugly...And it scares me, cause I will grow up and get old and fat too. And it's sad cause Johnny was kinda hot when he was young, cause he was angry and all, but now he still looks angry but it makes him look gay and weird cause he's old...the same happenned with the clash, but it wasnt a shock to see the young/old difference cause i saw westway before any pictures of them younger...so it was like.."ohh they looked good when they were young" and also, the old clash are not as fat and weird as the old pistols...and the clash grew up and changed in their attitude, and accepted that they were getting old.Not like Johnny...

I don't know...i'm just traumatised.(i think i invented a word here.)

[CombatRock]

sex pistols are old and fat and stupid bottomline.

and traumatised is an english word.

[TheNowhereman42]

ohhh it doesnt have anything to do with the clash, but ill try to make a connection so i wont have to arrest myself...

i went to the music world to buy a cd and saw a sex pistols dvd and there was pictures of them (recent pictures) on the back. I almost cried, it was horrible. Steve Jones is fat and ugly, and Johnny looks like he tried to stay young but hes also fat and really ugly...And it scares me, cause I will grow up and get old and fat too. And it's sad cause Johnny was kinda hot when he was young, cause he was angry and all, but now he still looks angry but it makes him look gay and weird cause he's old...the same happenned with the clash, but it wasnt a shock to see the young/old difference cause i saw westway before any pictures of them younger...so it was like.."ohh they looked good when they were young" and also, the old clash are not as fat and weird as the old pistols...and the clash grew up and changed in their attitude, and accepted that they were getting old.Not like Johnny...

I don't know...i'm just traumatised.(i think i invented a word here.)


Live fast, die young, leave a pretty corpse

[Coma_Girl]

i know that they HAVE to grow older too, cause they're humans...but...i just dont like it at all. It makes me realize how short life really is.

[Brain Toad]

This is the second largest thread in Punk....

[Coma_Girl]

it's because i'm cool and i love the clash...i love the clash waayyyyy too much.

[CombatRock]

i bet joe strummer is watching/reading this thread in heaven. or where ever people like joe go.

[Coma_Girl]

i think he would kick our *** if he could read this...he would probably hate all this attention. but I'm sure he's pretty happy no matter where he is.

[CombatRock]

joe would be so inspired and proud that he has done this. joe deserves this.

[Coma_Girl]

joe deserves whatever he wants for changing my life and the lives of millions (okay maybe not millions...but hey) of people.cause he rocks. Joe IS the punk.

[CombatRock]

im sure he has changed millions of life. think how many people like him now. 5 years ago. 10 20 30 years ago. i bet that adds up to a million.

[Coma_Girl]

nah...maybe a million people liked him...but they certainly didnt realized he was SO good. I think I still dont realized how great he truly was.

[CombatRock]

no one will truly understand joes greatness.

with that said im off for tonight.
peace clashinites.

[white_riot]

Steve Jones is fat and ugly.

he looks disgusting now. Glenn still doesn't look to bad.
Does anyone know what Topper has been doing lately.

[Coma_Girl]

he has a dog , and he still fight his heroin addiction.from what ive heard, and what joe said before he died...its been a while though, so i dont know.

[CombatRock]

half the world has dogs!

my background on my computer is a picture of Pual smoking, its so cool.

[Coma_Girl]

where is sean?

i wrote clash lyrics all over my desk in my math class today, and now i hope someone will be interested enough in the lyrics to start listening to the clash. but kids at my school are stupid and i hate them, so i guess it would be a good thing to keep the clash a 'secret'

[SlappedByTheClash]

101ers album drops in the US mid-June.



Still don't know when Viva Joe Strummer comes out.

[CombatRock]

seriusly?!? will it be at sale at places like FYE or BestBuy?

[Coma_Girl]

101ers album drops in the US mid-June.



Still don't know when Viva Joe Strummer comes out.
they dont even have clash cds here...so i doubt ill find the 101ers cd....and i dont like iin the states. :upset:

[CombatRock]

why dont you run down to new york and get some are better yet texas :p

[Coma_Girl]

ive found how to get to Joe's forrest somewhere on my computer...i say we should all go there together and have a Joe Strummer/Clash/Mescaleros party

[CombatRock]

everyone meet in new york in 3 years (im going for my senior trip). i was washing my car listing to XM radio and "julies been working for the drug squad" came on.

[Coma_Girl]

washing your car...pffff

hows the fact that youre going to NYC is related with the clash? :confused:

[Forest_Fire]

hey de clash thread.


I think he meant that he's going to NYC, and that the clash thread people should all meet him there.

[CombatRock]

duuhh andy :naughty:

[Forest_Fire]

There's some clash stuff going up in the alt/indie yousenditthread. Check it out of you want. There's combat rock and london calling and soon GEER

[Coma_Girl]

hey de clash thread.


I think he meant that he's going to NYC, and that the clash thread people should all meet him there.
ohhh i see...and do our clash party in front of joe's murale.

EDIT: welcome back Dustin :thumb:

[CombatRock]

sounds like a plan andy. you can pay for the plane tickets i will by the food.

[Coma_Girl]

sounds like a plan andy. you can pay for the plane tickets i will by the food.
planes are not punk enough.

[SlappedByTheClash]

planes are not punk enough.

Straight up.


Punks only travel by foot.


And a little bit by kangaroo.

[Coma_Girl]

Straight up.


Punks only travel by foot.


And a little bit by kangaroo.
are you from australia? :confused:

[SlappedByTheClash]

I wish I was...:upset:


How did the states get shafted out of 'roos and koala bears? This is complete horses'hit!

[Coma_Girl]

the shareef dont like it..lalalala...rock the casbah...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v111/xfull_collapse/shareefdontlikeit.jpg

haha.worse picture ever. we wanted to take pictures and make a rock the casbah photo album, but it didnt work.

[white_riot]

the shareef dont like it..lalalala...rock the casbah...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v111/xfull_collapse/shareefdontlikeit.jpg

haha.worse picture ever. we wanted to take pictures and make a rock the casbah photo album, but it didnt work.

lol.

[CombatRock]

is that your house in the background andy?

[Coma_Girl]

is that your house in the background andy?
no, i was at my friend's house:p

[CombatRock]

big house.

im going to make my 3000 post in this thread!

[Coma_Girl]

my english teacher told me that in rock the casbah, when it says "rock the casbah" you can also hear "block the task force", i dont remember exactly what the task force is, but it has to do with England who wants to get an island back so they send the task force. Joe probably knows what it is anyway.

[CombatRock]

has your english teacher ever seen the clash or met joe anything like that?

[sketchyjoe]

My uncle saw The Clash.

[CombatRock]

were at. when. did he love it?!

[sketchyjoe]

Dunno where. Early 80s I think. He said they were good.

[Jessizzle]

My Aunt saw DK in the 80s

[Coma_Girl]

has your english teacher ever seen the clash or met joe anything like that?
i never asked him, but i guess he would have told me...so probably not.

[Coma_Girl]

Dunno where. Early 80s I think. He said they were good.
i hope they were good...how could the clash suck?

[sketchyjoe]

Everyone has an off-day.

[Coma_Girl]

Everyone has an off-day.
even in off-days i'm sure they were better than any other band.

[sketchyjoe]

how could the clash suck?Not every Clash song is good and I'm sure not every one of their live performances was either. There are many bands I'd have preferred to see than The Clash.

[Coma_Girl]

Not every Clash song is good and I'm sure not every one of their live performances was either. There are many bands I'd have preferred to see than The Clash.
their songs are not ALL good, but the good ones are the best songs ever -for me

[guns_of_brixton]

Even if the Clash weren't perfect live, they still had alot of energy and stuff.

Actually. I'm not even sure if thats is what you guys are talking about, because my computer had been butt****ed with spyware and viruses and its too slow for me to gou back pages :(.

[Coma_Girl]

Even if the Clash weren't perfect live, they still had alot of energy and stuff.

Actually. I'm not even sure if thats is what you guys are talking about, because my computer had been butt****ed with spyware and viruses and its too slow for me to gou back pages :(.
sean!!!i thought you were dead.and where's dustin?and white riot?huuuh

[TheNowhereman42]

Even if the Clash weren't perfect live, they still had alot of energy and stuff.

Actually. I'm not even sure if thats is what you guys are talking about, because my computer had been butt****ed with spyware and viruses and its too slow for me to gou back pages :(.

they suposedly were awesome for the first half of the show, then ran out of energy

[Coma_Girl]

they suposedly were awesome for the first half of the show, then ran out of energy
bah, at least they were half-awesome. it's a lot more awesome than a lot of bands.

tom!i thought you were dead. :p

[guns_of_brixton]

sean!!!i thought you were dead.and where's dustin?and white riot?huuuh

I'm back from the dead :).


they suposedly were awesome for the first half of the show, then ran out of energy

When I was reading the Last Gang in Town, one of the Sex Pistols said the same thing.

[Coma_Girl]

I'm back from the dead :).




When I was reading the Last Gang in Town, one of the Sex Pistols said the same thing.
maybe tom was in the pistols and maybe his real name is not tom but johnny :rolleyes:

pfff the pistols.they didnt like the clash that much i think...so we cant trust them

[TheNowhereman42]

bah, at least they were half-awesome. it's a lot more awesome than a lot of bands.

tom!i thought you were dead. :p

Didn't post much this weekend, friday I saw Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy untill midnight, and last night I got really lightly stoned and fairly drunk and ended up staying at a friends.

And I acctually read the energy thing in Johnny Rotten's book so maby thats just what the Sex Pistols think

[Coma_Girl]

Didn't post much this weekend, friday I saw Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy untill midnight, and last night I got really lightly stoned and fairly drunk and ended up staying at a friends.

And I acctually read the energy thing in Johnny Rotten's book so maby thats just what the Sex Pistols think
is it a good book?i tried to find it, but i guess i'll have to order it from amazon or something when i'll have money.

i really think johnny hated joe.

[TheNowhereman42]

Yeah it was pretty good, Its written in a pretty cool way, where each chapter is written by a different person close to Johnny, and then he writes a few himself. I got it at Barns and Noble.

I assume we're both talking about Rotten: No Blacks, Dogs, or Irishmen

[Coma_Girl]

Yeah it was pretty good, Its written in a pretty cool way, where each chapter is written by a different person close to Johnny, and then he writes a few himself. I got it at Barns and Noble.

I assume we're both talking about Rotten: No Blacks, Dogs, or Irishmen
yes :thumb:

[guns_of_brixton]

i really think johnny hated joe.

I think that too. Johnny was an asshole.

[Coma_Girl]

So do I. He was an asshole.
:eek:
the way you said that make it sounds like you hate joe cause he's an asshole

[guns_of_brixton]

Ohh :eek:.

I'll edit that : :p.

[white_riot]

i was reading somewhere that Johnny said that The Clash wrote bad lyrics. I think he was just jealous of them. Because The Clash are better.

[CombatRock]

only reasons Jhonny and the Pistols said these things about The Clash is because they were jelous.

[white_riot]

Of course they were jealous. Has anyone heard Anarchy in the USA by The Clash and the pistols. I downloaded it a while back. Its a good song.

[guns_of_brixton]

i was reading somewhere that Johnny said that The Clash wrote bad lyrics. I think he was just jealous of them. Because The Clash are better.

Johnny wrote crappy lyrics. Alot of people don't like the Clash because they are associated alot with the Pistols. My friend thought the Clash were a "shitty punk band" until I played the Guns of Brixton and Tommy Gun for him.

[Coma_Girl]

i was reading somewhere that Johnny said that The Clash wrote bad lyrics. I think he was just jealous of them. Because The Clash are better.
bad lyrics? :lol: Johnny is so gay sometimes. But I still like him cause he looked like a cute puppy when he was younger

[SlappedByTheClash]

Of course Johnny Rotten said that, he tries to insult everyone to look cool.


His lyrics are far surpassed by Joe's, so he's simply envious of The Strumma's writing abilities.

[white_riot]

His lyrics are far surpassed by Joe's, so he's simply envious of The Strumma's writing abilities.

Thats very true.

[Coma_Girl]

i like this interview
(sniffin' glue, september 1976, by steve walsh)

I typed it all myself from the book LFHTH...it took me a while, so be greatful!
SW: Steve Walsh, MJ: Mick Jones, JS: Joe Strummer, PS: Paul Simonon.

Interview Part 1

SW: What's the name about, why call yourselves Clash?

PS: Well, it's a clash against things that are going on...the music scene, and all that we're hoping to change quite a lot.

SW: Does this mean you're political?

MJ: Yes, we're definitely political!

JS: We wanna be the apathy party of Great Britain, so that all the people who don't vote go out and don't vote for us!

MJ: We're really into encouraging creativity...We ain't a bunch of raving facists!

SW: Are you a bunch of raving anarchists?

JS: I don't believe in all that anarchy bollocks!

MJ: Yeah, anarchists believe in lawlessness...Look, the only important thing is to encourage people to do things for themselves, think for themselves and stand up for what their rights are.

SW: You hate apathy?

MJ: Oh, I ****in' hate apathy but I hate ignorance more than anything.

SW: Do you try to put this over your songs?

MJ: All our songs are about being honest, right? The situation as we see it, right?

SW: Right! So the songs relate directly to you and your environment?

MJ: Right, otherwise we'd be writing bull****!
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(....)
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SW: What do you think is wrong with people today?

MJ: They're apathetic...boring...boring music bores me!Boring 'cause it's not new, boring cause it's not...

JS: It's a lie...

MJ: ...They ain't pushin' themselves nowhere, they ain't being creative.

JS: Where's that picture of the George Hatcher Band?

PS: Oh yeah, that's a real joke, that is...

JS: We found this to be...

MJ: Hilarious, have you seen it? (They hold up an advertisement for the George Hatcher Band showing 2 members in typical stage pose.)

JS: I mean, the whole thing is a lie, it means nothing.

MJ: Except that they're on tour with Dr. Feelgood.

JS: All this crap like, oh yeah, they've got long hair and he's got his arm up here and look at his cowboy shirt and the trousers.

SW: What have clothes got to do with it?

MJ: Well, this is what rock'n'roll's supposed to look like...

JS: It's a state of mind.

MJ: What's the difference between this ad and the cover of last week's NME, it's the same pose ain't it? I think that's the same pair of trousers, from "Jean Machine." (Mick was referring to the previous week's cover pic of the Rod's Dave Higgs.)

SW: But they're a pair of trousers!

JS: No, you can't say that's clothes and this is music, it's a state of mind, a complete thing. If anything was going on in that bloke's head he would do something about it.

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(...)
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JS: We deal in junk, you know, I just realized that the other day. We deal in junk. We deal in, like, the rubbish bin. What we've got is what other people have put in the rubbish bin. Like Mick's shirt was gonna be put in the bin until he paid 10p for it. I mean, you ain't gonna go down to "Sex" with yer ten quid stuffed in yer pocket and buy some stupid...er...I dunno, I've never even been down there.

MJ: I think it's a bit easy to go down there and look great, I mean, their stuff's pretty good. Looks good to me, but I think the way we do it is much more accessible to kids cos anyone, at very little price and it encourages 'em to do something for themselves. It's to do with personal freedom...I don't think it's just the trousers though, I mean, the trousers reflect the mind.

JS: Like trousers, like brain!


(more to come, yeah!my favorite quotes are in bold :thumb: )

[white_riot]

JS: Like trousers, like brain!

I love that one!

[guns_of_brixton]

JS: Like trousers, like brain!

:lol:

[Coma_Girl]

Interview Part 2

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(...)
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SW: What was that with the radio at the 100 Club gig?

JS: Well, all that was...I' d been lucky and bought a cheap transistor in a junk shop for ten bob and it worked quite well. I'd been going around with it on my ear for a few days just to se what it was like. When someone broke a string I got it out and it just happened to be something about Northern Ireland.

MJ: A state of emergency...

SW: Yeah, bombs...I thought it was interesting: I thought maybe it was part of the way you approach your audience.

MJ: That was part of it, but we've tried other things since then, like at the Roundhouse...er...we "talked" to the audience...

JS: But they were half asleep...

MJ: The ones who were awake were pretty clever.

JS: I didn't think so, I mean YOU could hear them, I couldn't. How can I answer smartass jibes when I can't even hear them? All I could hear was some girl saying "nyah nyah nyah!" and then everyone goes "aha, ha, ha" (bursts out laughing.) If you can't hear what they're saying, then you can't really get out your great wit!

MJ: Well, I'm sure they were funny cause everyone was laughing at them, but when Joe said something like, you know, "**** off, fatso!" there was just complete silence! (more laughter)

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(...)
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SW: What do you think of bands that just go out and enjoy themselves?

MJ: You know what I think, I think they're a bunch of ostriches: they're sticking their heads in the ****ing sand!They're enjoying themselves at the audience's expense. They're taking their audience for a ride, feeding the audience ****!

SW: What if the audience say they're enjoying themselves ?

JS: Look, the situation is far too serious for enjoyment, man.Maybe when we're 55 we can play tubas in the sun, alright then to enjoy yourselves, but now!

MJ: I think if you wanna ****in' enjoy yourselves you sit in an armchair and watch tv, but if you wanna get actively involved, cause rock n rol's about rebellion. Look, I had this conversation with Bryan James of the ****ed and we were sreaming at each other for about 3 hours cause he stands for enjoying himself and I stand for change and creativity.

JS: I'd rather play to an audience and them not enjoy it, if we were doing what we thought was honest. Rather than us go up and sing "Get outta Denver, baby", and do what we didnt think was honest.
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[CombatRock]

were did you get that from andy?

[Coma_Girl]

were did you get that from andy?
Let Fury Have The Hour.

[CombatRock]

was it just a big book of interviews?

[Coma_Girl]

no, it's a chapter of the book and the chapter is called "the very angry clash" and it's a gay chapter name, but the best interview ever.

"like trousers, like brain!" :lol:

[guns_of_brixton]

Did I already tell you guys that my friend thought Elvis Costello was in the Clash?

[Coma_Girl]

Did I already tell you guys that my friend thought Elvis Costello was in the Clash?
yep :lol:

[CombatRock]

Did I already tell you guys that my friend thought Elvis Costello was in the Clash?

Im going to have to beat this guy up.

[guns_of_brixton]

Im going to have to beat this guy up.

No! He's like my best friend, and he's in my new (amazing) band. He said that he saw the Clash tribute thing that Costello was in after Joe died and thought whenever he hears the word "Clash" he sees an image of Elvis Costello.

But I really like his (Costello's) music.

[sketchyjoe]

Costello is cool.

[guns_of_brixton]

Costello is cool.

I love Armed Forces.

[Coma_Girl]

No! He's like my best friend, and he's in my new (amazing) band. He said that he saw the Clash tribute thing that Costello was in after Joe died and thought whenever he hears the word "Clash" he sees an image of Elvis Costello.

But I really like his (Costello's) music.
whats the name of your band sean?

[guns_of_brixton]

whats the name of your band sean?

We don't have a name yet :upset:.

[Forest_Fire]

What kind of music?



haha, sean, My "band" considered the name Two Dead Seans for a bit. and then we never practiced and broke up

[sketchyjoe]

I was going to be in a band with some guys I knew but they expected me to listen to The Bled and actually know how to play my instrument.

[guns_of_brixton]

What kind of music?



haha, sean, My "band" considered the name Two Dead Seans for a bit. and then we never practiced and broke up

Two Dead Seans... I like that :D.

The only way to describe our music would be... well, we kind of sound like Weezer did on their first album and like AFI did on Art of Drowning.

[cheeser_1]

making a daring return to this thread: i think costello's old stuff is gold. his new stuff, however, is not at all to my liking.

[CombatRock]

sean what are you playing in your band?

[cheeser_1]

sean what are you playing in your band?
music. obviously.

[CombatRock]

instrument.

[Coma_Girl]

the clash were playing good music...(lame attempt at keeping this conversation clash-related)

[Forest_Fire]

right.




so... has anyone heard the mescaleros' covers of A message to you rudy or Blitzkrieg bop? I really want to hear them, I think it'd be amazing

[CombatRock]

the clash were playing good music

really!? :p

[Coma_Girl]

right.




so... has anyone heard the mescaleros' covers of A message to you rudy or Blitzkrieg bop? I really want to hear them, I think it'd be amazing
i didnt know about the blitzkrieg bop cover...i'll try to find it.

"they're going thru a thiiiigh wind"

i always listen to the beginning of police and thieves 20 times in a row cause i like when Joe says that. He was way cooler than Joey.

[Brain Toad]

I bet if Joe went by Joey, his politics wouldn't be taken as seriously. It's hard to take a person name dJoey seriously.

Althought you'd think it would be hard to take a guy named Jello seriously.

[cheeser_1]

It's hard to take a person name dJoey seriously.
it's the d that really throws me off. :p

at least his name isn't grover cleveland.

[guns_of_brixton]

making a daring return to this thread: i think costello's old stuff is gold. his new stuff, however, is not at all to my liking.

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sean what are you playing in your band?

I play guitar.

I bet if Joe went by Joey, his politics wouldn't be taken as seriously. It's hard to take a person name dJoey seriously.

I never thought about that... but yea.

[Coma_Girl]

I bet if Joe went by Joey, his politics wouldn't be taken as seriously. It's hard to take a person name dJoey seriously.

Althought you'd think it would be hard to take a guy named Jello seriously.
All the John were called Johnny...Johnny Strummer. How ****ty. :lol:

[CombatRock]

Althought you'd think it would be hard to take a guy named Jello seriously.

whats Jellos full name?

[guns_of_brixton]

whats Jellos full name?

Eric Boucher, or something like that.

[Brain Toad]

Jello = Eric Boucher.

Johnny isn't as bad as Joey as per seriousness, because Johnny also has rebel kind of things attached to it.

[SactoUnited]

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Joey

[Coma_Girl]

Jello = Eric Boucher.

Johnny isn't as bad as Joey as per seriousness, because Johnny also has rebel kind of things attached to it.
Are you serious? Jello's real name is Eric Boucher? It's such a deception...I know a guy named Eric Boucher...but he's not Jello and he's kinda gay. :lol:
Is he french canadian or something...

[sketchyjoe]

He's from Colorado.

[CombatRock]

i know what Sandinistia is. it was in my history book. i forgot though. haha. also the word Biafra was in my history book in the same chapter.

[guns_of_brixton]

Sandinista was a rebellion/revolution in Nicaragua (I think) and the Republic of Biafra was some place where alot of people starved because of some thing that I don't remember.

I think...

[Jessizzle]

Is it possible you have run outa Joe Strummer things to talk about yet? :(

[CombatRock]

Sandinista was a rebellion/revolution in Nicaragua (I think) and the Republic of Biafra was some place where alot of people starved because of some thing that I don't remember.

I think...

yea somthing like that.



paintstevegreen: no

[cheeser_1]

Sandinista was a rebellion/revolution in Nicaragua (I think) and the Republic of Biafra was some place where alot of people starved because of some thing that I don't remember.

I think...

yeah, nicaragua. this one's good to read up:
http://www.lclark.edu/~woodrich/WoodhouseSandinista.html

and here:
Biafra, Republic of, secessionist state of W Africa, in existence from May 30, 1967, to Jan. 15, 1970. At the outset Biafra comprised, roughly, the East-Central, South-Eastern, and Rivers states of the Federation of Nigeria, where the Igbo people predominated. The country, which took its name from the Bight of Biafra (an arm of the Atlantic Ocean), was established by Igbos who felt they could not develop—or even survive—within Nigeria. In Sept., 1966, numerous Igbos had been killed in N Nigeria, where they had migrated in order to engage in commerce. The secessionist state was led by Lt. Col. Chukuemeka Odumegwu Ojukwu and included some non-Igbos. Biafra's original capital was Enugu; Aba, Umuahia, and Owerri served successively as provisional capitals after Enugu was captured (Oct., 1967) by Nigerian forces. Seeking to maintain national unity, Nigeria imposed economic sanctions on Biafra from the start of the secession, and fighting between Nigeria and Biafra broke out in July, 1967. After initial Biafran advances, Nigeria attacked Biafra by air, land, and sea and gradually reduced the territory under its control. The breakaway state had insufficient resources at the start of the war—it was a net importer of food and had little industry—and depended heavily on its control of petroleum fields for funds to make purchases abroad. It lost the oil fields in the war, and more than one million of its civilian population are thought to have died as a result of severe malnutrition. At the time of its surrender on Jan. 15, 1970, Biafra was greatly reduced in size, its inhabitants were starving, and its leader, Ojukwu, had fled the country. During its existence Biafra was recognized by only five nations, although other countries gave moral or material support.



i didn't write that, obviously. also, it looks like biafra has a website: http://www.biafraland.com/

[Coma_Girl]

i have an oral production to do on something i love and i think i'll choose the clash or Joe. I'm not sure. I have to say why I took that subject...I just don't know what to say about them though...there's so much to say, but nothing that will keep the class attention.
heeeeelp me.

[cheeser_1]

oral production?

[Coma_Girl]

oral production?
thats how we call that here...you know, you go in front of the class and talk :confused:

[cheeser_1]

thats how we call that here...you know, you go in front of the class and talk :confused:
ah, gotcha. i'd probably call that a "presentation" or a "speech." but that's just how i would say it. i bet it would be cool to do a biography of joe, like, born on some day, life growing up, an overview of his life.

[SlappedByTheClash]

thats how we call that here...you know, you go in front of the class and talk :confused:


Just steal my Profile of Joe and add to it/make it better, I won't turn you into the Feds.


Plaigarism is A-OK in my world.

[guns_of_brixton]

Just steal my Profile of Joe and add to it/make it better, I won't turn you into the Feds.


Plaigarism is A-OK in my world.

Not a bad idea at all.

By the way the Canadian Feds are beavers.

[Coma_Girl]

I have to make it emotive cause if people cry, the teacher will appreciate it. It's supposed to be about something/someone you love or who changed your life...but I don't think I'll make people cry with something about Joe cause they just dont care.

[SlappedByTheClash]

I have to make it emotive cause if people cry, the teacher will appreciate it. It's supposed to be about something/someone you love or who changed your life...but I don't think I'll make people cry with something about Joe cause they just dont care.

It's all about presentation, sweetheart.


Even if the subject matter is uninteresting to some, if you make it good, they will cry.


Drama skills are important in speeches.

[guns_of_brixton]

Is it in English or French?

To make it emotional you could quote lyrics from some of Joe's/The Clash's more emotional songs.

[Coma_Girl]

in french...so i cant really quote songs cause in french it sounds gay

[guns_of_brixton]

Oh... maybe you could still say some in English.

[Jessizzle]

Just talk about when he died then start crying.

[CombatRock]

I have to make it emotive cause if people cry, the teacher will appreciate it. It's supposed to be about something/someone you love or who changed your life...but I don't think I'll make people cry with something about Joe cause they just dont care.

yea they wouldnt cry if they dont know the guy. just educate them about him then they might start listening to his work.

[guns_of_brixton]

Next year for photography hopefully I'll have the chance to do a project on the Clash.

[CombatRock]

in my speech class we had to do a little paper about somthing going on. and it was about the time the clash 25 london calling thing came out. so i wrote a paper on it.

[Fabz]

Well I like this guy...Joe Strummer can someone give me some good songs to download ;)

[Coma_Girl]

ohhh...post number 2000!!Thanks to the Joe Strummer thread, I couldn't have made it without you. :thumb:

Fab, you should download Straight To Hell, Clampdown, Death Or Glory, I'm So Bored With The USA, White Man In Hammersmith Palais, Complete Control, Magnificient 7 for his Clash days

and for his mescaleros work, I suggest Coma Girl, Get Down Moses, Long Shadow, Redemption Song (cover), Yalla Yalla, Tony Adams, Cool'n'Out, Johnny Appleseed, Bindhi Bangee (or something like that) and Shaktar Donesk (or something like that)

:wave:

[Fabz]

Félicitation! YAY

[CombatRock]

Well I like this guy...Joe Strummer can someone give me some good songs to download ;)

go buy London Calling and The Clash. and if you have enough money get Give em Enough Rope.

[SlappedByTheClash]

I actually like Give Em Enough Rope better than the self titled.


But not by much, mind you.

[guns_of_brixton]

GEER is very good, but could be much better if the production was simpler, like if they got rid of the gay keyboard on Guns on the Roof, which is otherwise an awesome song.

[Coma_Girl]

i think my favorite songs ever are straight to hell and clampdown and death or glory.

and my friend dwled the movie Straight To Hell and he's gonna put it on a tape for me :cool:

[CombatRock]

I actually like Give Em Enough Rope better than the self titled.


But not by much, mind you.

same here. Stay Free is such a great song.

[cheeser_1]

GEER is very good, but could be much better if the production was simpler, like if they got rid of the gay keyboard on Guns on the Roof, which is otherwise an awesome song.
i hate it when keyboards are attracted to keyboards of the same gender. those dirty bastards. that's why they should get rid of them. because they're gay.



on the other hand, the dropkick murphys did a good cover of guns of brixton.

[guns_of_brixton]

i hate it when keyboards are attracted to keyboards of the same gender. those dirty bastards. that's why they should get rid of them. because they're gay.



on the other hand, the dropkick murphys did a good cover of guns of brixton.

Well I never said we should get rid of the gay keyboards :p.

And if I could somehow get hooked up with an mp3 for that cover it would be greatly appreciated...

[guns_of_brixton]

One Emotion is such a cool song. Awesome little bass solo.

[cheeser_1]

And if I could somehow get hooked up with an mp3 for that cover it would be greatly appreciated...
i am in the process of re-ripping my record collection. okay, well, actually, i haven't started that process. but i'm going to eventually. most of them sound too crappy, and i think i've got it set up better now. i just have to sit down and do them all.

however, i do have that one. you can get it (for a very limited time) here:

EDIT: i took it down. you know. because that's how things are done. if anybody else really really wants it, let me know.

[guns_of_brixton]

Its a cool cover, I like how the bass sounds.

[metty16]

same

[CombatRock]

i hate it when keyboards are attracted to keyboards of the same gender. those dirty bastards. that's why they should get rid of them. because they're gay.



on the other hand, the dropkick murphys did a good cover of guns of brixton.

thats my least favroite of the clash covers they did.

[CombatRock]

One Emotion is such a cool song. Awesome little bass solo.

i never heard this song. what album is it from?

[Coma_Girl]

EDIT: i took it down. you know. because that's how things are done. if anybody else really really wants it, let me know.
i really want it.please?

[CombatRock]

what do you want?

[Coma_Girl]

the song

[white_riot]

i think my favorite songs ever are straight to hell and clampdown and death or glory.

Straight to Hell is one of the only songs i like on Combat Rock.

[CombatRock]

i love straight to hell. the part were joes start muttering Mammamamma and Papapapa its great.

[cheeser_1]

i really want it.please?
alright, it's up for another half hour or so:

i took it down again. next time you're around and posting, i'll put it back up. or you could get it from one of those other people, if you IM with them or whatever.

[CombatRock]

is that dkms version of Guns of Brixton?

[white_riot]

Thanks Cheeser.

[CombatRock]

somone answrew my question?

[cheeser_1]

yes it is

[CombatRock]

the cover of Carrer Opprotunites and White Riot are better IMO.

[white_riot]

Yes

[white_riot]

Its ok, i haven't heard their covers of white riot or career opportunities.

[CombatRock]

oh you should listen to them if you get a chance. there version of Guns of Brixton is horrible. does anyone have Rage Against the Machines cover of Clampdown?

[cheeser_1]

coma girl, you get it yet?

[CombatRock]

shes offline right now.

[white_riot]

Can anyone send me those songs.

[Coma_Girl]

travis, get the song for me and send it to me over msn next time we're both online...

i love the straight to hell a lot. it makes my heart go all 'wahhhhhhh'

[guns_of_brixton]

i never heard this song. what album is it from?

I think it was unreleased until it came out on Clash on Broadway.

[guns_of_brixton]

Today I was playing London Calling and some other Clash songs on a Telecaster and on a white P-Bass. It was excellent :cool:.

[white_riot]

oh you should listen to them if you get a chance. there version of Guns of Brixton is horrible. does anyone have Rage Against the Machines cover of Clampdown?

DKM's version isn't that bad. The more I listen, the more i like.

[Coma_Girl]

Today I was playing London Calling and some other Clash songs on a Telecaster and on a white P-Bass. It was excellent :cool:.
you're so Joe/Paul

[guns_of_brixton]

you're so Joe/Paul

Haha yea, then I was trying to drum the fast parts of Clapmdown and I couldn't get it :(.

[White Riot!]

I just purchased The Complete Clash Chord Songbook.


Its awesome , its got all the chords from all the clash songs , even has the fingerings they used on the records.

Also , it tells you to tune slightly flat or sharp for some songs so you can get a closer sound.


Just been learning guns on the roof and cheat. Even when doing the flanging effect on cheat , the chords are dead on.


definantely worth it :chug:

[Rise Me Up]

where'd you get it?

[White Riot!]

in the best record store in australia ; Utopia Records , in the heart of sydney.


off topic: This store is about to finish its stage for local bands to play!!

[CombatRock]

I just purchased The Complete Clash Chord Songbook.


Its awesome , its got all the chords from all the clash songs , even has the fingerings they used on the records.

Also , it tells you to tune slightly flat or sharp for some songs so you can get a closer sound.


Just been learning guns on the roof and cheat. Even when doing the flanging effect on cheat , the chords are dead on.


definantely worth it :chug:

i think i have seen that book. to bad they dont have basslines in it or i would have got it.

sean were did you play a white p-bass at?

andy, you want me to send you Guns of Brixton by DKM, if so i dont have it downloaded on my computer.

[White Riot!]

i think i have seen that book. to bad they dont have basslines in it or i would have got it.


123 Simonon owns.



I think I have figured out the clampdown ad-lib words

THE KINGDOM WAS RANSACKED...
THE JEWELS GOT TAKEN BACK
AND A CHOPPER DESCENDS...

...AND HE WAS IN THE BACK WITH
MISSILES GETTIN' IN OUR DUCT TAPE
WHERE THE SPOOL GOES IN...

SITTIN' ON THE BACK HE WAS FACIN'
THE CROWD BUT HIS HEAD
IS A CRICK ALL NIGHT...

[white_riot]

I just purchased The Complete Clash Chord Songbook.


Its awesome , its got all the chords from all the clash songs , even has the fingerings they used on the records.

Also , it tells you to tune slightly flat or sharp for some songs so you can get a closer sound.


Just been learning guns on the roof and cheat. Even when doing the flanging effect on cheat , the chords are dead on.


definantely worth it

That sounds really awesome!

Can you play the solo part of White Riot because its like impossible.

[guns_of_brixton]

sean were did you play a white p-bass at?

When I was practicing with my band :cool:.

Can you play the solo part of White Riot because its like impossible.

I can kind of play the White Riot solo, its not exact but it still sounds ok.

Oh, and aren't the 3 chords for Guns on the Roof the same as the first three used in Clash City Rockers (E, D, A power chords)? I figured it out myself and thats what I play.

[white_riot]

I'll stick with playing Police and Thieves for now, its the only song i can play good. I know it is very easy but I kinda suck.

[Brain Toad]

I saw Clash albums at Rasputin last night, they were in the Rock section instead of the punk section, I found that intresting.

[CombatRock]

123 Simonon owns.



I think I have figured out the clampdown ad-lib words

THE KINGDOM WAS RANSACKED...
THE JEWELS GOT TAKEN BACK
AND A CHOPPER DESCENDS...

...AND HE WAS IN THE BACK WITH
MISSILES GETTIN' IN OUR DUCT TAPE
WHERE THE SPOOL GOES IN...

SITTIN' ON THE BACK HE WAS FACIN'
THE CROWD BUT HIS HEAD
IS A CRICK ALL NIGHT...

are you talking about the words at the beginning of the song?

[Forest_Fire]

It's official: Simonon is the best bassist ever.


I wish I had a book with all of the basslines in it. That's be sweet.




It's also official: Yalla Yalla is one of the best Mescaleros songs.

[guns_of_brixton]

are you talking about the words at the beginning of the song?

Yea he is... but I'm pretty sure somebody already figured those out like 40 pages back.

Is there anyone here that owns Clash on Broadway?

[CombatRock]

yea that was me who posted the beginning of clampdown and they were way different than whiteriot!

i would love to have Clash on Broadway but isnt it like 30 dollars?

[SlappedByTheClash]

Yea he is... but I'm pretty sure somebody already figured those out like 40 pages back.

Is there anyone here that owns Clash on Broadway?

I have it.

[guns_of_brixton]

I have it.

I want it! :upset:

[SlappedByTheClash]

I want it! :upset:
Get a job, you layabout! :p

[cheeser_1]

Get a job, you layabout! :p
layabout. ha.

[CombatRock]

i might have some bad news. Andys computer is bootlegged and she cant access MX anymore. or so she says. i will keep yall updated.

[Forest_Fire]

uh oh. This thread might die without her.


What do mean by "her computer is bootlegged"?

[guns_of_brixton]

uh oh. This thread might die without her.


What do mean by "her computer is bootlegged"?

We'll keep the thread alive for Andy!

I hope it wasn't because she downloaded too much pr0n :naughty:.

[CombatRock]

andy downloaded porn all the time.


boot leg like made by somone not by a company, probley illegaly.



RIP andy if you never return.

even though i will talk to her on msn. lol

[cheeser_1]

i found my computer in a dumpster.

[white_riot]

I was watching Rude Boy a couple of days ago and for the people who have seen it what do the two black guys have to do with the movie. They kind of just appear and it doesn't make sense.

[metty16]

I thought I was the only one who thought that

[SlappedByTheClash]

We'll keep the thread alive for Andy!

I hope it wasn't because she downloaded too much pr0n :naughty:.

I have a friend who claims to have 7 gigs of pr0n, which is freakin' insane.


Who wanks off that much? :confused:


101'ers album has got me so excited, man. I don't know if I can wait for the US date, I might import from England.

[guns_of_brixton]

andy downloaded **** all the time.

:naughty:

Who wanks off that much?

Me. :naughty:

To get back on topic, I am going to buy a 101ers album soon.

[SlappedByTheClash]

Ugh.


I just listened to some of those songs on Sandinista! that The Clash really shoudln't have done.(IE the f'ucking Tinkerbell version of Career Opportunities).

Yeah, I REALLY wish they hadn't done that.

Back to Death Or Glory!

[guns_of_brixton]

Yea... the last 5 songs on Sandinista! are pretty terrible.

[white_riot]

I don't have Sandinista, i have only heard one song on it.

[white_riot]

Acually, I have heard 2 songs. Charlie don't surf aint that bad.

[sketchyjoe]

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Sandinista could've been a good 14 track album.

[CombatRock]

To get back on topic, I am going to buy a 101ers album soon.
when does it come out?

[guns_of_brixton]

Acually, I have heard 2 songs. Charlie don't surf aint that bad.

Charlie Don't Surf is one of my favorite Clash songs :thumb:.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Sandinista could've been a good 14 track album.

That's what Joe said in Westway. He said it even would've been good as an EP.

[CombatRock]

i cant stand Charlie Dont Surf. idk mick sounds to much like a girl in that song.

[guns_of_brixton]

i cant stand Charlie Dont Surf. idk mick sounds to much like a girl in that song.

You don't like Lover's Rock either... Mick sounds like a girl in that song too.

[CombatRock]

yea. his finest 3 minutes is Stay Free and we can all agree on that.

[guns_of_brixton]

I like Train in Vain and Hate and War alot also.

[CombatRock]

Stay Free has so much heart into it though.

[guns_of_brixton]

Stay Free has so much heart into it though.

True. I was thinking today that Stay Free is the only Mick song that is a classic.

[CombatRock]

yea. but every joe song is a classic.


this thread is so lonly with out Andys canadian wit.

[CombatRock]

I miss canadian bacon!!!!





to keep this Clash related. look at this badass pic of joe

http://tinypic.com/5cefpu

[CombatRock]

sorry for the triple post. but andy told me to say this

Andy:i saw my mom dance to rock the casbah and i'm traumatised. also, i don't like mick's lyrics that much, except maybe stay free. And sometimes, he sounds gay.

i have been telling her what we have been talking about. so i will be andys translater.

[Coma_Girl]

i might have some bad news. Andys computer is bootlegged and she cant access MX anymore. or so she says. i will keep yall updated.
:lol:
i feel appreciated...



sooooo...you guys missed me? :amaze:

[CombatRock]

what! i though you wernt going to get it to work. its so nice to see you back.

im arresting you though for being of topic.

jpjpjpjp!

[SlappedByTheClash]

True. I was thinking today that Stay Free is the only Mick song that is a classic.

Not so...


It may be for Clash fans, but for the average person, Train In Vain is more recognizable, therefore it should also be counted as a classic.

[sketchyjoe]

Lost in the Supermarket

[CombatRock]

Lost in the Supermarket is one of my favroites off of London Calling. its a song i can relate to also.

[white_riot]

Mick sang some great songs, Hate and War is a classic. I love that song.

[guns_of_brixton]

Lost in the Supermarket is one of my favroites off of London Calling. its a song i can relate to also.

You once got lost in a supermarket?

EDIT: Somebody Got Murdered is another good Mick song.

[godXsaveXtheXqueen]

hah the clash is soo awesome!! i love paul! haha

[Coma_Girl]

You once got lost in a supermarket?
:lol:

and travis, you can relate to the lyrics that JOE wrote for the song. Micks voice is sometimes annoying

[white_riot]

You once got lost in a supermarket?

lol, Joe wrote that song didn't he.

[white_riot]

Hey Coma Girl how is your Joe and the Meskies profile going.

[Coma_Girl]

lol, Joe wrote that song didn't he.
yeah from mick's point of view.

[Coma_Girl]

Hey Coma Girl how is your Joe and the Meskies profile going.
almost finished...just need to translate few details.

[CombatRock]

are you going to want me to look over/ edit it?

[guns_of_brixton]

I think that we can all agree that Mick had his moments of greatness. These include Stay Free, Hate and War, Lost in the Supermarket, and Train in Vain. But then again, there's 1-2 Crush on You.

[CombatRock]

hahahaha. i heard that song and it was pathetic. wonder what the clash would have been like without joe?

[guns_of_brixton]

hahahaha. i heard that song and it was pathetic. wonder what the clash would have been like without joe?

They would've had "1-2 Crush on You" and "I'm So Bored with You". :rolleyes:

[CombatRock]

its a frightning thought.

[guns_of_brixton]

Maybe Paul would've never wrote the Guns of Brixton.

[CombatRock]

is there a video of Guns of Brixton. cos on westway to the world it show what seems like video clips from GoB.

[white_riot]

Mick sings I'm not Down and that song owns.

I remember seeing that in Westaway. It would be awesome if there was one.

[sketchyjoe]

I've seen a GoB video on Soulseek.

[white_riot]

I've seen a GoB video on Soulseek.

Thats Sucks, I don't have Soulseek.

[CombatRock]

was it the same thing on westway to the world?

[sketchyjoe]

I didn't download it.

[CombatRock]

gotcha. im sad im losing weight and now my favroite/only clash shirt doesnt fit me. i wore it today and its really big on me.

[StreetlightRock]

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=345070&page=1&pp=25

Vote Paul!

DVG.

[persistenceofresistance]

gotcha. im sad im losing weight and now my favroite/only clash shirt doesnt fit me. i wore it today and its really big on me.

cut it and sew it to fit you then..make it fitted.

[CombatRock]

^ no.

and i voted for paul. damn les claypol will win though.

[white_riot]

I voted for Paul too.

[CombatRock]

yea. i doubt he is gunna win though.

[albert_bass]

I voted for him too... But he's not the best.

[white_riot]

I don't think he is gonna win either but he's doing ok.