NBA :- Name your all time greatest starting 5? [Archive]

Against Miik!

02-19-2005, 01:11 PM

The West this year has a great lineup.
PG-Tracy McGrady
SG-Kobe Bryant
SF-Kevin Garnett
PF-Tim Duncan
C-Shaq

Of all time I would go with...

Michael Jordan
Julius Erving
Shaq
Kobe
Larry Bird

Shaq isn't in the west anymore, unless i'm missing something and Miami is in the Western Conference

Anyway, I would put Oscar Robertson at the point, Jordan at SG, Larry Bird at SF, Bill Russell at PF, and CHamberlain at the center.

MattSharpIsCool

02-19-2005, 02:01 PM

C - Shaq O'Neal
PF - Wilt Chamberlain
SF - Larry Bird
SG - Michael Jordan
PG - Magic Johnson

Illmatic

02-19-2005, 02:11 PM

PG - Magic Johnson
SG - Michael Jordan
C - Shaquille O'Neal
SF - Larry Bird
PF - Tim Duncan

second-team:

PG Oscar Robertson
SG Jerry West
C Wilt Chamberlain
SF Kevin Garnett
PF Moses Malone

Reaganista

02-19-2005, 02:31 PM

1 Oscar Robertson
2 Jerry West
3 Jullius Earving
4 Willis Reed
5 Wilt Chamberlain

Illmatic

02-19-2005, 03:54 PM

Jerry West isn't better than MJ, and Dr. J certainly isn't better than Bird. And you're a Sixers fan who doesn't have Moses Malone (hell, Doc needed Moses to win a championship)? Odd.

Reaganista

02-19-2005, 05:09 PM

Jerry West fits that team better than MJ, Doc is much better than Bird and Malone wasn't even close to Chamberlain.

Kurtz

02-19-2005, 05:15 PM

C - Shaq
SF - Larry Bird
PF - Tim Duncan
SG - Michael Jordan
PG - Muggsy Bogues :)

MattSharpIsCool

02-19-2005, 05:17 PM

I think every team needs a defensive stopper.

K.C. Jones gets an honorable mention for my team.

Silverstein

02-19-2005, 05:21 PM

wow i like how u morons only pick the stars of today...

heres my top 5

C Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (cant believe nobody said him yet)
SF Larry Bird
PF Julius Erving
PG Bob Cousy
SG Walt Frazer

the fact of the matter is ladies michael jordan is NOT, i repeat is NOT the greatest of all time, greatest of most of our generation yes, but not of all time.

Rogue Six

02-19-2005, 07:00 PM

PG Magic Johnson
SG Michael Jordan
SF Charles Barkley
PF Wilt Chamberlain
C Shaquille O'Neil

Sixth Man : Larry Bird

manuscriptreplica

02-19-2005, 07:07 PM

Robinson
Jordan
Bird
Garnett
Shaq

For another team

Lebron
Magic
West
Duncan
Wilt

Hababi

02-19-2005, 07:42 PM

PG John Stockton
SG Michael Jordan
SF Larry Bird
PF Karl Malone
C Wilt Chamberlain

Illmatic

02-20-2005, 12:07 AM

Jerry West fits that team better than MJ, Doc is much better than Bird and Malone wasn't even close to Chamberlain.

If you add MJ and Bird, you have two superstars who did the Little Things, which eliminates the need for Reed. Slide Moses in for Reed and you've got a team.

I think every team needs a defensive stopper.

I'd have Bobby Jones on my bench for that exact reason.

wow i like how u morons only pick the stars of today...

heres my top 5

C Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (cant believe nobody said him yet)
SF Larry Bird
PF Julius Erving
PG Bob Cousy
SG Walt Frazer

the fact of the matter is ladies michael jordan is NOT, i repeat is NOT the greatest of all time, greatest of most of our generation yes, but not of all time.

That team is with all due respect, horrible. Shaq and Wilt are both better than Kareem, Dr. J is not a PF, Cooz is far from the best PG ever, and MJ may not be the best player of all time, but he is still better than Walt Frazier (with all due respect to Frazier, who is underrated). There's a reason why we pick the stars of today, they're really really good. I'd like to see you try to argue Cooz over Magic or Clyde over MJ.

I'd also like to point out that Tim Duncan is probably already the best PF ever so unless you intend to put a C at your PF spot, you have to put him there.

Reaganista

02-20-2005, 03:14 AM

If you add MJ and Bird, you have two superstars who did the Little Things, which eliminates the need for Reed. Slide Moses in for Reed and you've got a team.

If I was going to replace Reed with anyone, it'd be Tim Duncan, just because Reed never liked playing the 4, which he did when Bellamy was around. Moses was the same way.

mogzay

02-20-2005, 05:08 AM

C - Shaq
SF - Larry Bird
PF - Tim Duncan
SG - Michael Jordan
PG - Muggsy Bogues :)

Does Bogues still play?

manuscriptreplica

02-20-2005, 05:57 AM

nope

Simple Man

02-20-2005, 09:47 AM

C - Shaq O'Neal
PF - Wilt Chamberlain
SF - Larry Bird
SG - Michael Jordan
PG - Magic Johnson

This would be mine also

c0nfusedGUiTARiST

02-20-2005, 10:55 AM

Kobe Bryant
Tracy McGrady
Micheal Jordan
Kevin Garnett
Shaq O'Neal

MattSharpIsCool

02-20-2005, 11:24 AM

I'd also like to point out that Tim Duncan is probably already the best PF ever so unless you intend to put a C at your PF spot, you have to put him there.

I dont know....Karl Malone was a pretty good player....

Illmatic

02-20-2005, 03:23 PM

If I was going to replace Reed with anyone, it'd be Tim Duncan, just because Reed never liked playing the 4, which he did when Bellamy was around. Moses was the same way.

Oh.

/didn't know Moses didn't like playing the 4

I dont know....Karl Malone was a pretty good player....

And Duncan was better.

MattSharpIsCool

02-20-2005, 04:17 PM

We'll see....if Duncan can average 25ppg over 19 seasons, then alright.

Illmatic

02-20-2005, 07:06 PM

We'll see....if Duncan can average 25ppg over 19 seasons, then alright.

Watch the two players play, especially in big games, and try to tell me Malone is better.

We don't need to see if Duncan is playing in 12 years, he's better now. Easy.

manuscriptreplica

02-20-2005, 07:15 PM

Malone never won his team a championship either, scoring isn't everything

Silverstein

02-20-2005, 07:54 PM

Malone never won his team a championship either, scoring isn't everything

if it wasent for chicago yes he would have, probalbly a couple times.

Illmatic

02-20-2005, 08:01 PM

if it wasent for chicago yes he would have, probalbly a couple times.

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The fact is, Duncan has beaten his biggest obstacle (Shaq and the Lakers) and won a championship. Malone didn't. Duncan is smarter, a better team player, and a better defender.

MattSharpIsCool

02-20-2005, 11:42 PM

I dont really see how winning a championship judges how good an indivdidual player is. The championship takes a team effort, not one player.

Rogue Six

02-21-2005, 01:29 AM

I'm surprised no body made a comment on having barkley in my starting five.

mogzay

02-21-2005, 03:18 AM

I'm surprised no body made a comment on having barkley in my starting five.

Because he was actually quite good. I'd also have to consider who is better, Tim Duncan or Dirk Nowitski? Any thoughts? If anyone disagrees, Ill put Dirk in my top 6 'cause he's awesome!!

splashfreak

02-21-2005, 09:30 AM

Shaq isn't in the west anymore, unless i'm missing something and Miami is in the Western Conference

Anyway, I would put Oscar Robertson at the point, Jordan at SG, Larry Bird at SF, Bill Russell at PF, and CHamberlain at the center.

I echo your sentiments exactly.

splashfreak

02-21-2005, 09:31 AM

Because he was actually quite good. I'd also have to consider who is better, Tim Duncan or Dirk Nowitski? Any thoughts? If anyone disagrees, Ill put Dirk in my top 6 'cause he's awesome!!

Dirk is definitely no Tim Duncan. He is quite possibly the most overated player in the NBA. Sure he can score but tons of players can score. He can't defend like Duncan, and he doesn't make his team better like Duncan, and OH YEAH, he hasn't won championships, unlike Duncan.

I dont really see how winning a championship judges how good an indivdidual player is. The championship takes a team effort, not one player.

Basketball is the one sport where you are expected to bring your team championships. One super great player in basketball often only needs another good player and then a cast of role players, like Jordan.

I'm not saying its FAIR the way we diminish those who haven't won championships, but it definitely makes more sense in Basketball than any other sport. If you are comparing one guy to another and they are similar statwise, etc., championships will be the final decisive factor. If Jordan had never won any championships he would be remembered as a great scorer but not the greatest ever. Just the way it is.

Illmatic

02-21-2005, 10:26 AM

I dont really see how winning a championship judges how good an indivdidual player is. The championship takes a team effort, not one player.

If this was football or baseball, you'd have a point.

But in basketball more than any other sport, one or two players can lead a team to a championship. Look at the Lakers from 2000-2002; ten of their players were bad, but because the other two were Shaq and Kobe they could win three in a row. The Bulls in the 90's had a poor supporting cast too, but they had Jordan and Pippen, so they were able to win six championships. The Rockets in the mid-90's were fairly unimpressive, but Hakeem Olajuwon was able to bring them two championships.

But regardless of championships, Duncan IS better than Malone.

dancetomdance182

02-21-2005, 10:40 AM

If this was football or baseball, you'd have a point.

But in basketball more than any other sport, one or two players can lead a team to a championship. Look at the Lakers from 2000-2002; ten of their players were bad, but because the other two were Shaq and Kobe they could win three in a row. The Bulls in the 90's had a poor supporting cast too, but they had Jordan and Pippen, so they were able to win six championships. The Rockets in the mid-90's were fairly unimpressive, but Hakeem Olajuwon was able to bring them two championships.

But regardless of championships, Duncan IS better than Malone.

Duncan is better than Malone. He makes his team better. To emphasize his point, look at Kidd, he was traded and brought the Nets to the Finals 2 times.
Steve Nash, made the Suns a great team.

splashfreak

02-21-2005, 02:31 PM

Yeah, actually, even number-wise Duncan is better than Malone, much less the whole Duncan-has-two-rings-and-Malone-doesn't problem.

FateisCold

02-21-2005, 07:47 PM

XyleM

02-22-2005, 08:35 AM

That team is with all due respect, horrible. Shaq and Wilt are both better than Kareem, Dr. J is not a PF, Cooz is far from the best PG ever, and MJ may not be the best player of all time, but he is still better than Walt Frazier (with all due respect to Frazier, who is underrated). There's a reason why we pick the stars of today, they're really really good. I'd like to see you try to argue Cooz over Magic or Clyde over MJ.

Those are all valid points, but the game has changed dramitcally since their time. Perhaps they would have been 'better' players if they had have come out now.

I would say:

1: Steve Nash
2: Michael Jordan
3: Dirk Nowitski
4: Jermaine Oneal
5: Shaquille Oneal

Jermaine+Shaq= Ownage on the boards.
MJ+Dirk+Nash = Three point Haven
Shaq = Unstoppable when isolated :)

There my 5 favorite players probs not the greatest starting 5, but a 5 that would be tough to guard :thumb:

Illmatic

02-22-2005, 02:27 PM

Why is everyone picking Duncan over Garnett?? Duncan might average more points a game but look at Garnetts rebounding total....everyone else is coughing in his dust and overall one of those guys that always gives 100% no matter what.

John Stockton
Kevin Garnett
Michael Jordan
Julius Erving
Shaq

With all due respect to KG, I like him a lot and he's a helluva player, but he doesn't elevate his game like Duncan does and he doesn't make his team better like Duncan does. KG is more like Pippen or Kevin McHale: he's good enough to single-handedly lead a team to 50+ wins and a second-round exit, but nothing beyong that. And it's foolish to assume that Duncan--or any elite player--doesn't give 100% no matter what

And this is more than bias talking, but Bird was better than Dr. J. Seriously.

Reaganista

02-22-2005, 04:18 PM

Why are you biased against Doc? He was the best player in UMass history.

Illmatic

02-22-2005, 04:28 PM

I'm not biased against Doc, I love Doc. But Bird was just better.

Reaganista

02-22-2005, 04:30 PM

Fair enough.

Doc had better hair, though.

Illmatic

02-22-2005, 05:08 PM

Troo.

/has a mini-fro

Although when Bird grew that ****-star moustache in the late-80's to go with the blonde mullet, no basketball legend looked as unintentionally funny as that.

TheFinalCut

02-22-2005, 05:13 PM

1-A Iverson
2-R Miller
3-M Jordon
4-B Wallace
5-S O'Neil

Yea i know Iverson isnt a point guard but oh well, he has good handles, Who could outshoot miller? i mean come on hes gotta be a Shooting Guard, For a Small Forward, its gotta be jordan, noone could shut him out, and Ben and o'neil at power forward and center would completely pwn anyone who tried to go downlow, and they would get boards like crazy

Reaganista

02-22-2005, 07:25 PM

You know, they played basketball before 1990.

ToyDolls

02-22-2005, 07:30 PM

1. S
2. H
3. A
4. Q
5. **** why can't they have four people on the floor at a time.

Shaq is everything. He is my candy in my coco. He also likes to read books.

Reggie Miller... uh some other dudes.

nitzguy

02-23-2005, 11:14 AM

just to be diffrent and not have the same poepl i will choose some new faces
sg) jerry west
pg) oscar robinson- averaged a triple double one year
c) David Robinson- most underrated center ever. had a quadruple double in a game he also score 71 pts in agame as well.
sf) Larry bird
pf) moses malone- hes huge

Illmatic

02-23-2005, 02:53 PM

Interesting note about David Robinson--I've noticed that when you pair a headcase with an elite player, the headcase can usually calm himself down enough to be a valuable asset to a team (this year's best example, Eddie Griffin in Minnesota). Dennis Rodman is a shining example. He was a valuable asset to the Pistons with Isiah, then lost it with Robinson in San Antonio. Then with the Bulls and MJ, he was fine; he may have kicked a cameraman in the nuts, but he didn't take his shoes off during a playoff game like he did with the Spurs. There was clearly something about David Robinson that Rodman didn't respect, something about him that couldn't command a team. He's still a great player and a great person, but there will always be that one mitigating factor hanging over his head before I can put him in that higher pedestal. If you're going to choose a center people in this thread have overlooked, pick Hakeem Olajuwon, who schooled Robinson in the '95 playoffs to boot.

manuscriptreplica

03-01-2005, 06:55 AM

PG: Magic Johnson
SG: Michael Jordan
SF: Larry Bird
PF: Charles barkley
C: Shaquille Oneal

That was my mates, pretty generic and cliched if you ask me

Jetpelkey54

03-05-2005, 11:39 PM

if anyone is gonna make comments about great defenders you gotta include Bill Russell, he was probablly the best defensive center ever and unlike most of these smack-talkin centers nowadays he knew what a true block was. Not hitting a shot to a fan 20 rows up but just stopping it from going to the hoop and keeping it inbounds for his teammates. I mean it's kinda a waste when you get a easy block but you slap extremely hard instead of just tapping it up and grabbing it to pass

FourTouchCombination

03-08-2005, 08:09 AM

PG: Allen Iverson
SG: Michael Jordan
SF: LeBron James
PF: Chris Webber
C: Shaquille O'Neal

That'd work :thumb:

TheSeeker625

03-08-2005, 04:06 PM

C-Wilt the Stilt Chamberlain
PG-John Stockton
SG-Michael Jordan
SF-Larry Bird
PF-Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

naboo

03-08-2005, 06:07 PM

Larry Bird
Magic Johnson
Bill Russell
Michael Jordan
Julius Erving

Scott Herren

03-08-2005, 06:14 PM

PG: Troy Hudson
SG: Jerry Reynolds
SF: Dennis Scott
PF: Jeff Turner
C: Michael Doleac

guitarsuperstar

04-02-2005, 10:38 PM

PG: Magic Johnson
SG: Michael Jordan
SF: Larry Bird
PF: Tim Duncan
C: Shaq

this lineup would absolutely dominate, as would everyone's fantasy lineup, with the exception of scott herren's lineup which probally couldn't beat a wnba team