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supra_speed
02-18-2005, 12:09 AM
well i just thought something about the new consoles war upcoming next year and found out the cell processor will be able 2 get speeds of 4.8 ghz. yes u heard right. then after that i was looking for xbox 2 and found out that it will be using 3 cpu's. i mean wtf?!?! cell was gonna pwn all then 3 processors shouldnt that be able to do at least 8 ghz. crazy and mind boggling. can some1 elaborate here plz

Turkish
02-18-2005, 12:37 AM
yeah, it's pretty much turned into a "who's dick is bigger" contest.

RockISdead420
02-18-2005, 12:38 AM
you gotta admit the technology is amazing

RockISdead420
02-18-2005, 12:39 AM
i watched something on tv that said that eventually the graphics will get so good they would be like watching a movie

supra_speed
02-18-2005, 12:39 AM
Yeah Ill Say. Xbox Bettr Be Better Im Counting On Halo3 To Be Good.....lame Single Player Halo2

supra_speed
02-18-2005, 12:43 AM
Yeah I Heard That 2 =)

Zmev
02-18-2005, 01:52 AM
Great, now it's gonna be like real life. The thing I play video games to ESCAPE.

Lionheart1827
02-18-2005, 02:09 AM
Great, now it's gonna be like real life. The thing I play video games to ESCAPE.

Man that is so true.

It's sad these days. Videogames are now all about graphics and flash value. A good example of this is the Final Fantasy series. It's all about how great the graphics are and how many FMV's you can fit on a dvd. What happened to the days when FMV's didnt matter, and gameplay> graphics?

This is why I like nintendo so much, they retain that gameplay value that you cant find on the other systems. I own a ps2, its got great games, and i recently sold my xbox because of the lack of good games.

With that said, Zelda is gonna own anything that comes out this year. And if what Nintendo says about there new console revolutionizing everything, then its safe to say that nintendo will own. :thumb:

Independent_CA
02-18-2005, 02:27 AM
Xbox 2 is supposed to be out by Christmas of this year according to the info we get at ebgames. PSP will be out in March, but my manager imported a Japanese one off ebay and that thing is frikin rad. I'd get one if I didn't care more about guitars than games.

supra_speed
02-18-2005, 02:46 AM
zelda hahahahahahah that sux. xb0x will pwn everything. pwn j00 that is. 3 processors how leeeeeeet

Kardi The Lobet
02-18-2005, 02:59 AM
" I'd get one if I didn't care more about guitars than games."

Well Said :thumb:

Double Bass Jim
02-18-2005, 03:08 AM
Great graphics don't equal great gameplay. The developers need to remember that.

Rancid Dan
02-18-2005, 03:21 AM
XBOX 2 will be out by november apparently, i will probably be getting one for Christmas and then when the new Ninty console comes out i will get that too.
I will get the Nintendo one mainly for the exclusives i.e Zelda, Metroid, Mario.

It depends on how much they cost though, i won't get any over £200 at the most.

(LOKI)
02-18-2005, 03:25 AM
gameplay has to be the most important thing, ninetdno are gods. The new DS with the touch screen will be amazing, plus it isnt excessively expensive.

Rancid Dan
02-18-2005, 03:27 AM
Yeah, i don't like handheld gaming though, so i won't get one.
I need to get Resi 4 and TSFP in March though.

Pop music sucks
02-18-2005, 04:16 AM
Developers should try to set a solid storyline (or replay value) and then use its system capabilities to reinforce the storyline (or replay value).

For some time though, great graphics was fun, but then that novelty wore off.

FFVII is a great example about how to use the system capabilities. It had a solid storyline executed with well-timed FMV's.

Except VIII, that one had too much FMV's to care, did we really need Quistis to give a :rolleyes: look in uber-detail?

Rancid Dan
02-18-2005, 04:45 AM
I love great graphics, i mean Metroid Prime 2 wouldnt be anywear near as good if it hadn't had the graphics that it does, but developers need to get both gameplay and graphics right.

Zakath
02-18-2005, 06:38 AM
There are plenty of new games out/coming out that do not rely on great graphics to make the game. I hate when people complain about how "graphics don't make a great game." No ****. The only game I can really think of that's purely about graphics is Doom 3. That game would be extremely boring without the graphics that it has.. and in my opinion it's still a boring game.

In my opinion, graphics DO partly make the game. I know gameplay/fun value etc are a big part, but let's face it.. which would you rather play if everything else is the same, a game with terrible/average graphics, or a game with incredible graphics like HL 2? I know I don't like looking at ****. I also don't think that games becoming more and more realistic is bad. At least in the sense of the graphics becoming so good that you can't tell them apart from looking at their real-world counterpart. I don't, however, like "realistic" sim games where its like real life, i.e. the Sims. Now that I definitely don't like, I like it if the game looks realistic, but I want to be doing **** that I would get shot on the spot if I tried to pull in real life.

Esp Griffyn
02-18-2005, 06:55 AM
Graphics help to make games better, when the graphics are bland / glitchy or whatever, it annoys me and I dont feel as immersed in the game.

supra_speed
02-18-2005, 07:38 AM
bah stop changing the subject get inf0 on the nxt gen consoles and post it here.

Zakath
02-18-2005, 08:02 AM
Graphics help to make games better, when the graphics are bland / glitchy or whatever, it annoys me and I dont feel as immersed in the game.
Exactly. Like Farcry.

Oh man I love that game. I'm only on the fifth level, but it's so ****ing awesome.

Rancid Dan
02-18-2005, 08:06 AM
bah stop changing the subject get inf0 on the nxt gen consoles and post it here.

Why don't you change the name of the thread to - next gen consoles instead of ps3 n xbox 2 as there will be a new Nintendo console aswell.

_Anubis_
02-18-2005, 08:08 AM
zelda hahahahahahah that sux. xb0x will pwn everything. pwn j00 that is. 3 processors how leeeeeeet
3 processors you say?! Well, I'll buy one based on that! :rolleyes:

steve6991
02-18-2005, 08:10 AM
Man that is so true.

It's sad these days. Videogames are now all about graphics and flash value. A good example of this is the Final Fantasy series. It's all about how great the graphics are and how many FMV's you can fit on a dvd. What happened to the days when FMV's didnt matter, and gameplay> graphics?

Chrono Trigger and Zelda are teh sh1t :thumb:

3rdplanet
02-18-2005, 08:13 AM
well i just thought something about the new consoles war upcoming next year and found out the cell processor will be able 2 get speeds of 4.8 ghz. yes u heard right. then after that i was looking for xbox 2 and found out that it will be using 3 cpu's. i mean wtf?!?! cell was gonna pwn all then 3 processors shouldnt that be able to do at least 8 ghz. crazy and mind boggling. can some1 elaborate here plz

Those are some scary speeds.

Rancid Dan
02-18-2005, 08:37 AM
Here are some links to some stuff on the next gen consoles: :thumb:

Here seems to be some interesting information about the upcoming Ninty console - Nintendo revolution rumours (http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000380028623/)

Revolution F&Q - Revolution F&Q (http://cube.ign.com/articles/522/522559p1.html)

XBOX 2/Next info - XBOX 2 rumours (http://www.ccfx.net/nextbox/index.php?page=specs)

PS3 website with stuff - PS3 (http://www.ps3portal.com/)

Gnarmageddon
02-18-2005, 08:42 AM
Thanks for the info, RD.

:thumb:

shabutie
02-18-2005, 09:14 AM
Yeah Ill Say. Xbox Bettr Be Better Im Counting On Halo3 To Be Good.....lame Single Player Halo2
Your Shift Button Is Being Over Used Please Lay Off For A Little WhIlE.

XDR data rates will clocked from 3.2 GHz to 8.0 GHz
/jizz

Evil Peavey
02-18-2005, 09:16 AM
. I'd get one if I didn't care more about guitars than games.

Funny you say that. Since I've picked up the guitar, it takes an outstanding game to hold my attention. And there are many of those....

jeffro
02-18-2005, 04:48 PM
how much are these gonna cost?

StaticSynth
02-18-2005, 05:30 PM
how much are these gonna cost?

Most analysts seem to believe that the XBOX 2 and the PS3 are both going to cost more than $300. Judging by the past, the Nintendo Revolution will probably launch for considerably less. All Nintendo consoles seem to launch at $200, which is very good.

StaticSynth
02-18-2005, 05:36 PM
well i just thought something about the new consoles war upcoming next year and found out the cell processor will be able 2 get speeds of 4.8 ghz. yes u heard right. then after that i was looking for xbox 2 and found out that it will be using 3 cpu's. i mean wtf?!?! cell was gonna pwn all then 3 processors shouldnt that be able to do at least 8 ghz. crazy and mind boggling. can some1 elaborate here plz

No offense, but I would like to point out that your logic is very flawed.

For starters, all reports I've seen seem to indicate the PS3 will be faster and more powerful than the XBOX 2. This makes sence because the XBOX 2 is being released first and has been rather rushed.

Secondly, just because a console uses 3 CPUs doesn't mean it's three times faster than the competition. The PS3 and XBOX 2 have vastly different infrastructures and CPUs. CPUs have varying speeds. The XBOX 2 could have 3 CPUs but only be able to get speeds of 1.5 ghz, or it could be able to get 4 ghz. We don't know because they haven't released info on what kind of processor they are using and how fast it will be.

:thumb:

StaticSynth
02-18-2005, 05:39 PM
i watched something on tv that said that eventually the graphics will get so good they would be like watching a movie

Well, naturally as graphics technology progresses, games will begin to look more and more realistic and eventually photorealistic.

StaticSynth
02-18-2005, 05:40 PM
zelda hahahahahahah that sux. xb0x will pwn everything. pwn j00 that is. 3 processors how leeeeeeet

:lol:

Klown
02-18-2005, 05:44 PM
Great graphics don't equal great gameplay. The developers need to remember that.
Quoted for the truth.

They should definetly make sure the storylines for the new games are as good and origional as possible, and not just re-makes of things that have allready been done. I want to see some good games!

Should be interesting to see the new quality and detail in the graphics/effects however.

StaticSynth
02-18-2005, 06:12 PM
Quoted for the truth.

They should definetly make sure the storylines for the new games are as good and origional as possible, and not just re-makes of things that have allready been done. I want to see some good games!


I wouldn't worry about developers not making as good games next generation. Competition pretty much guarantees that good developers will continue to strive toward outdoing the competition. That's why I like Nintendo as a developer. They may milk some of their mascots too much but you can't deny that gameplay is the most important thing to them.

3rdplanet
02-18-2005, 07:10 PM
I wouldn't worry about developers not making as good games next generation. Competition pretty much guarantees that good developers will continue to strive toward outdoing the competition. That's why I like Nintendo as a developer. They may milk some of their mascots too much but you can't deny that gameplay is the most important thing to them.

Static Synth seems to be one pimp *** poster.

Although I bet developers will be more interested in making the games look good and selling on that, rather than the fun factor.

cheesepuff
02-18-2005, 08:02 PM
well i just thought something about the new consoles war upcoming next year and found out the cell processor will be able 2 get speeds of 4.8 ghz. yes u heard right. then after that i was looking for xbox 2 and found out that it will be using 3 cpu's. i mean wtf?!?! cell was gonna pwn all then 3 processors shouldnt that be able to do at least 8 ghz. crazy and mind boggling. can some1 elaborate here plz

Dunno if anyone already said this, but the whole idea of the cell processor is that it's much more efficient and doesn't have all the buses to run across for the gpu and such.

supra_speed
02-18-2005, 09:33 PM
No offense, but I would like to point out that your logic is very flawed.

For starters, all reports I've seen seem to indicate the PS3 will be faster and more powerful than the XBOX 2. This makes sence because the XBOX 2 is being released first and has been rather rushed.

Secondly, just because a console uses 3 CPUs doesn't mean it's three times faster than the competition. The PS3 and XBOX 2 have vastly different infrastructures and CPUs. CPUs have varying speeds. The XBOX 2 could have 3 CPUs but only be able to get speeds of 1.5 ghz, or it could be able to get 4 ghz. We don't know because they haven't released info on what kind of processor they are using and how fast it will be.

:thumb:


yeah i was just thinking that. Anyway thanks

Pastorius
02-18-2005, 09:42 PM
Devil May Cry has sweet graphics.

supra_speed
02-18-2005, 10:11 PM
haha GREAT i foun on team xbox that xbox 2 will have 3 3.5ghz processors nothing official. but i think it might pwn the ps3 if this is true. heres the link http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/5388/Xbox-2-Specs-Leaked-Update-

and heres the image with them. http://pics.computerbase.de/news/7602/1.jpg

supra_speed
02-18-2005, 11:45 PM
Nintendo is dead to me. They seem to have lost track of the video game industry, and don't realize that the future is in online play and new IPs. They simply want to stick with Mario and GBA/DS connectivity. In my opinion, Nintendo needs to stick to handhelds from now on out, because, barring a miracle, they will never be able to come back.

Contrary to the advertisements, Sony is not my style. I believe that Sony is in the video game industry for themselves rather than the gamer. While it is perfectly reasonable for a company to make money (you'd think that they would want to), the company should still listen to their consumers. Sony seems to want to go their own direction.

Microsoft on the other hand is looking promising. Admittedly, I am a bit of an Xbox "fanboy", but I believe that I have a perfectly good reason for it. Microsoft has shown that they care about the consumer, and they have listened to the consumer every step of the way during their first foray into the video game industry. With Xbox Live and its increasing number of features, not to mention the huge library of online games, Microsoft has shown that they have a firm control on the online gaming front. In addition, Microsoft has several older quality IPs that they can bring out (Halo, Project Gotham Racing, Conker, Perfect Dark, Dead or Alive, Splinter Cell, etc etc.) as well as many new, innovative IPs heading their direction (Forza Motorsport, Stubbs the Zombie, Advent Rising, etc etc.).

I don't see Microsoft changing their stance in the video game industry aside from improvement. They have made an incredible entrance into the industry, and I believe that in the next-generation they will be even more aggressive with their products. To those of you supporting Sony - whether it be for the hardware (the CELL), the media (Blu-Ray), or the games (GTA) - think about this. Why would Microsoft be so confident in themselves if they plan to release a "weak" console, with regular DVDs (although Bill Gates has specifically stated that the Xbox 2 will be heavily based on High Definition; the current DVD standard cannot handle higher than 480p on AAA titles, therefore Microsoft is certainly using a next-generation format), and a weak launch line-up? Do you think that Microsoft is just going to give up? A multi-billion dollar company with a ~40% market share is just going to release a piece of **** console and give up? No.

Lionheart1827
02-19-2005, 12:01 AM
Nintendo is dead to me. They seem to have lost track of the video game industry, and don't realize that the future is in online play and new IPs. They simply want to stick with Mario and GBA/DS connectivity. In my opinion, Nintendo needs to stick to handhelds from now on out, because, barring a miracle, they will never be able to come back.

Contrary to the advertisements, Sony is not my style. I believe that Sony is in the video game industry for themselves rather than the gamer. While it is perfectly reasonable for a company to make money (you'd think that they would want to), the company should still listen to their consumers. Sony seems to want to go their own direction.

Microsoft on the other hand is looking promising. Admittedly, I am a bit of an Xbox "fanboy", but I believe that I have a perfectly good reason for it. Microsoft has shown that they care about the consumer, and they have listened to the consumer every step of the way during their first foray into the video game industry. With Xbox Live and its increasing number of features, not to mention the huge library of online games, Microsoft has shown that they have a firm control on the online gaming front. In addition, Microsoft has several older quality IPs that they can bring out (Halo, Project Gotham Racing, Conker, Perfect Dark, Dead or Alive, Splinter Cell, etc etc.) as well as many new, innovative IPs heading their direction (Forza Motorsport, Stubbs the Zombie, Advent Rising, etc etc.).

I don't see Microsoft changing their stance in the video game industry aside from improvement. They have made an incredible entrance into the industry, and I believe that in the next-generation they will be even more aggressive with their products. To those of you supporting Sony - whether it be for the hardware (the CELL), the media (Blu-Ray), or the games (GTA) - think about this. Why would Microsoft be so confident in themselves if they plan to release a "weak" console, with regular DVDs (although Bill Gates has specifically stated that the Xbox 2 will be heavily based on High Definition; the current DVD standard cannot handle higher than 480p on AAA titles, therefore Microsoft is certainly using a next-generation format), and a weak launch line-up? Do you think that Microsoft is just going to give up? A multi-billion dollar company with a ~40% market share is just going to release a piece of **** console and give up? No.


Yeah. Out of the 3 current consoles, gamecube was the only one to start off making profit. Xbox broke even about 6-8 months ago and ps2 a little before that. But out of the 3, the Gamecube and Nintendo have been making a lot more profit than them. nintendo dead? I think not. But everyone is entitled to their opinion, even if it is flawed. :thumb:


Secondly, just because a console uses 3 CPUs doesn't mean it's three times faster than the competition. The PS3 and XBOX 2 have vastly different infrastructures and CPUs. CPUs have varying speeds. The XBOX 2 could have 3 CPUs but only be able to get speeds of 1.5 ghz, or it could be able to get 4 ghz. We don't know because they haven't released info on what kind of processor they are using and how fast it will be.

Very true. Raw processor speeds dont mean **** when theres not a good proportional amount of ram to compliment it. To obtain great results, there cant be any bottlenecks. If xbox is indeed 8ghz, which is crap by the way, it will severely be bottlenecked by other components in the system. Sure great graphics are a good plus, but what happens when great graphics have a horrible framerate and a lot of geometry popping up in the distance? Thats crap imo and decreases the gameplay experience.

Edit-Rancid Dan kicks ***

Jonny
02-19-2005, 04:42 AM
Nintendo is dead to me. They seem to have lost track of the video game industry, and don't realize that the future is in online play and new IPs. They simply want to stick with Mario and GBA/DS connectivity. In my opinion, Nintendo needs to stick to handhelds from now on out, because, barring a miracle, they will never be able to come back.
Yeah. Quite a lot of people (Myself included) don't really care for online play and all the extra costs. And just because you don't like a company doesn't mean it's failing.

Contrary to the advertisements, Sony is not my style. I believe that Sony is in the video game industry for themselves rather than the gamer. While it is perfectly reasonable for a company to make money (you'd think that they would want to), the company should still listen to their consumers. Sony seems to want to go their own direction.
And, of course, Microsoft's motives are purely selfless :rolleyes:
Microsoft on the other hand is looking promising. Admittedly, I am a bit of an Xbox "fanboy", but I believe that I have a perfectly good reason for it. Microsoft has shown that they care about the consumer, and they have listened to the consumer every step of the way during their first foray into the video game industry. With Xbox Live and its increasing number of features, not to mention the huge library of online games, Microsoft has shown that they have a firm control on the online gaming front. In addition, Microsoft has several older quality IPs that they can bring out (Halo, Project Gotham Racing, Conker, Perfect Dark, Dead or Alive, Splinter Cell, etc etc.) as well as many new, innovative IPs heading their direction (Forza Motorsport, Stubbs the Zombie, Advent Rising, etc etc.).
If Microsoft really cared about consumers, they would work on removing bugs from their operating systems.
I don't see Microsoft changing their stance in the video game industry aside from improvement. They have made an incredible entrance into the industry, and I believe that in the next-generation they will be even more aggressive with their products. To those of you supporting Sony - whether it be for the hardware (the CELL), the media (Blu-Ray), or the games (GTA) - think about this. Why would Microsoft be so confident in themselves if they plan to release a "weak" console, with regular DVDs (although Bill Gates has specifically stated that the Xbox 2 will be heavily based on High Definition; the current DVD standard cannot handle higher than 480p on AAA titles, therefore Microsoft is certainly using a next-generation format), and a weak launch line-up? Do you think that Microsoft is just going to give up? A multi-billion dollar company with a ~40% market share is just going to release a piece of **** console and give up? No.
Well because they can afford to throw loads and loads of cash at it until it starts selling.

And yes, it seems to me you only want to buy an Xbox 2, and are trying to find valid excuses not to buy anything else. And you're failing.
You want an Xbox 2, buy an Xbox 2. Everyone else will buy what they want.

morrissey
02-19-2005, 04:48 AM
well i just thought something about the new consoles war upcoming next year and found out the cell processor will be able 2 get speeds of 4.8 ghz. yes u heard right. then after that i was looking for xbox 2 and found out that it will be using 3 cpu's. i mean wtf?!?! cell was gonna pwn all then 3 processors shouldnt that be able to do at least 8 ghz. crazy and mind boggling. can some1 elaborate here plz


Microsoft on the other hand is looking promising. Admittedly, I am a bit of an Xbox "fanboy", but I believe that I have a perfectly good reason for it. Microsoft has shown that they care about the consumer, and they have listened to the consumer every step of the way during their first foray into the video game industry. With Xbox Live and its increasing number of features, not to mention the huge library of online games, Microsoft has shown that they have a firm control on the online gaming front. In addition, Microsoft has several older quality IPs that they can bring out (Halo, Project Gotham Racing, Conker, Perfect Dark, Dead or Alive, Splinter Cell, etc etc.) as well as many new, innovative IPs heading their direction (Forza Motorsport, Stubbs the Zombie, Advent Rising, etc etc.).

Why do I have the feeling those are two completely different authors?

Benzum
02-19-2005, 04:50 AM
Xbox will beat everything simply cause its better
And I know you all love the shiny good graphics as much as everyone else so stop complaining

Jonny
02-19-2005, 04:52 AM
Xbox will beat everything simply cause its better
And I know you all love the shiny good graphics as much as everyone else so stop complaining
Wow. What a well thought out and flawless argument!! :rolleyes:

Benzum
02-19-2005, 04:57 AM
Wow. What a well thought out and flawless argument!! :rolleyes:

Yes...yes it was :thumb:

supra_speed
02-19-2005, 05:47 AM
Why do I have the feeling those are two completely different authors?

LOL. I couldn't be bothered waiting so i did some research and what do you know, and also lately I've been getting flamed for grammar problems. LOL!

morrissey
02-19-2005, 05:49 AM
lol i cbf waiting so i went and did some research :)
cbf = ?

So did you write that post, or take it from a site?

supra_speed
02-19-2005, 05:49 AM
Yeah. Quite a lot of people (Myself included) don't really care for online play and all the extra costs. And just because you don't like a company doesn't mean it's failing.


And, of course, Microsoft's motives are purely selfless :rolleyes:

If Microsoft really cared about consumers, they would work on removing bugs from their operating systems.

Well because they can afford to throw loads and loads of cash at it until it starts selling.

And yes, it seems to me you only want to buy an Xbox 2, and are trying to find valid excuses not to buy anything else. And you're failing.
You want an Xbox 2, buy an Xbox 2. Everyone else will buy what they want.


Its an opinion, learn how to read u idiot! :angry:

Jonny
02-19-2005, 07:00 AM
Its an opinion, learn how to read u idiot! :angry:
Yes, hence my last paragraph.

Rancid Dan
02-19-2005, 07:01 AM
Change the thread title, Supra Speed.

Rats
02-19-2005, 07:02 AM
I heard they are removing the hard drive in the XBox 2 :angry:

Rancid Dan
02-19-2005, 07:22 AM
Yeah, they will be using flash memory.

Rancid Dan
02-19-2005, 07:27 AM
Nintendo is dead to me. They seem to have lost track of the video game industry, and don't realize that the future is in online play and new IPs. They simply want to stick with Mario and GBA/DS connectivity. In my opinion, Nintendo needs to stick to handhelds from now on out, because, barring a miracle, they will never be able to come back.
Contrary to the advertisements, Sony is not my style. I believe that Sony is in the video game industry for themselves rather than the gamer. While it is perfectly reasonable for a company to make money (you'd think that they would want to), the company should still listen to their consumers. Sony seems to want to go their own direction.

Microsoft on the other hand is looking promising. Admittedly, I am a bit of an Xbox "fanboy", but I believe that I have a perfectly good reason for it. Microsoft has shown that they care about the consumer, and they have listened to the consumer every step of the way during their first foray into the video game industry. With Xbox Live and its increasing number of features, not to mention the huge library of online games, Microsoft has shown that they have a firm control on the online gaming front. In addition, Microsoft has several older quality IPs that they can bring out (Halo, Project Gotham Racing, Conker, Perfect Dark, Dead or Alive, Splinter Cell, etc etc.) as well as many new, innovative IPs heading their direction (Forza Motorsport, Stubbs the Zombie, Advent Rising, etc etc.).

I don't see Microsoft changing their stance in the video game industry aside from improvement. They have made an incredible entrance into the industry, and I believe that in the next-generation they will be even more aggressive with their products. To those of you supporting Sony - whether it be for the hardware (the CELL), the media (Blu-Ray), or the games (GTA) - think about this. Why would Microsoft be so confident in themselves if they plan to release a "weak" console, with regular DVDs (although Bill Gates has specifically stated that the Xbox 2 will be heavily based on High Definition; the current DVD standard cannot handle higher than 480p on AAA titles, therefore Microsoft is certainly using a next-generation format), and a weak launch line-up? Do you think that Microsoft is just going to give up? A multi-billion dollar company with a ~40% market share is just going to release a piece of **** console and give up? No.

Nintendo will never die.
They started it, and they will end it.
And how do you know that Nintendo next console won't have good online play ?

Rancid Dan
02-19-2005, 07:45 AM
Well done.

Not anymore.

Rats
02-19-2005, 08:06 AM
Microsoft has shown that they care about the consumer, and they have listened to the consumer every step of the way during their first foray into the video game industry. With Xbox Live and its increasing number of features, not to mention the huge library of online games, Microsoft has shown that they have a firm control on the online gaming front.

Bullshit. If Microsoft cared about their customers, they wouldn't have banned everyone who had a modchip from XBox Live. I bought Halo 2 and started an XBox live subscription just to play it online. I was banned a week later and returned the game to the store. I have always been a loyal XBox customer. All the games I like were purchased, but now, Microsoft screwed me over and I'm not sure if I will buy another XBox game.

supra_speed
02-19-2005, 07:23 PM
Bullshit. If Microsoft cared about their customers, they wouldn't have banned everyone who had a modchip from XBox Live. I bought Halo 2 and started an XBox live subscription just to play it online. I was banned a week later and returned the game to the store. I have always been a loyal XBox customer. All the games I like were purchased, but now, Microsoft screwed me over and I'm not sure if I will buy another XBox game.

In the 1st place modding your xbox is illegal so wtf are u talking about?

supra_speed
02-19-2005, 07:25 PM
Nintendo will never die.
They started it, and they will end it.
And how do you know that Nintendo next console won't have good online play ?

Nintendo didn't really start it, maybe when it became very popular - gaming, but the gaming industry was alive waaaay before nintendo came out.

..nintendo is losing the plot man, with all do respect to them, they lost the plot from gamecube, no online play, no dvd player etc. They are only focused on gaming solely.
As for Microsoft and Playstation they have put more effort into the features of they're consoles and thus are more appealing to the customer. But at the moment I think Microsoft has the edge, they keep talking abouth the new 'vision' they have which is sure to be good in my opinion. Whether you like Nintendo, Playstation or Mircrosoft, it's all personal preferance.

BTW: I don't know why everone hates Microsoft, you say they don't have enough security, why the hell do you buy XP or whatever in the 1st place, go use a ****ing Mac if u dont like it.

Pastorius
02-19-2005, 07:33 PM
Nintendo didn't really start it, maybe when it became very popular - gaming, but the gaming industry was alive waaaay before nintendo came out.

Yeah I'm sure it was a multi-billion dollar industry.

supra_speed
02-19-2005, 07:35 PM
I heard they are removing the hard drive in the XBox 2 :angry:

No, that's only a rumor going around, there's also another rumor going around saying that they're will be a HDD vesrion and one without, meh who bloody knows eh. :cool:

StaticSynth
02-19-2005, 07:55 PM
In the 1st place modding your xbox is illegal so wtf are u talking about?

Modding your xbox isn't illegal if you don't pirate xbox games. If you're like me and just download all your xbox games then you're breaking the law. :thumb:

The fact that they ban people with mod chips is one of the many examples showing that Microsoft doesn't cater toward the gamer. It isn't illegal to mod your xbox because there are plenty of fully legal things that can be done with it. Despite this, they'll ban you if you have one.

There are ways to get around having your mod chip detected when you play on Live. You can put a switch on the outside of your xbox that can turn off the mod chip. They can't detect it if it's off and you only need the chip to boot up the games you have on your hard drive. Once you boot up the game, you don't need the modchip to run it, so when you want to play on Live, just flip the switch to turn off the chip. I know this because my brother has done it. :thumb:

supra_speed
02-19-2005, 08:02 PM
Humm ok I understand, :P stop proving me wrong. :thumb:

ohhh well. rats you need to do what ^^ says

E sharp
02-20-2005, 12:34 AM
Nintendo is dead to me. They seem to have lost track of the video game industry, and don't realize that the future is in online play and new IPs. They simply want to stick with Mario and GBA/DS connectivity. In my opinion, Nintendo needs to stick to handhelds from now on out, because, barring a miracle, they will never be able to come back.

Contrary to the advertisements, Sony is not my style. I believe that Sony is in the video game industry for themselves rather than the gamer. While it is perfectly reasonable for a company to make money (you'd think that they would want to), the company should still listen to their consumers. Sony seems to want to go their own direction.

Microsoft on the other hand is looking promising. Admittedly, I am a bit of an Xbox "fanboy", but I believe that I have a perfectly good reason for it. Microsoft has shown that they care about the consumer, and they have listened to the consumer every step of the way during their first foray into the video game industry. With Xbox Live and its increasing number of features, not to mention the huge library of online games, Microsoft has shown that they have a firm control on the online gaming front. In addition, Microsoft has several older quality IPs that they can bring out (Halo, Project Gotham Racing, Conker, Perfect Dark, Dead or Alive, Splinter Cell, etc etc.) as well as many new, innovative IPs heading their direction (Forza Motorsport, Stubbs the Zombie, Advent Rising, etc etc.).

I don't see Microsoft changing their stance in the video game industry aside from improvement. They have made an incredible entrance into the industry, and I believe that in the next-generation they will be even more aggressive with their products. To those of you supporting Sony - whether it be for the hardware (the CELL), the media (Blu-Ray), or the games (GTA) - think about this. Why would Microsoft be so confident in themselves if they plan to release a "weak" console, with regular DVDs (although Bill Gates has specifically stated that the Xbox 2 will be heavily based on High Definition; the current DVD standard cannot handle higher than 480p on AAA titles, therefore Microsoft is certainly using a next-generation format), and a weak launch line-up? Do you think that Microsoft is just going to give up? A multi-billion dollar company with a ~40% market share is just going to release a piece of **** console and give up? No.

http://xbox2.gamegossip.com/comment.php?id=255 :rolleyes: is that a hint of plagarism?

Lionheart1827
02-20-2005, 01:49 AM
No, that's only a rumor going around, there's also another rumor going around saying that they're will be a HDD vesrion and one without, meh who bloody knows eh. :cool:

exactly man, nobody knows, stop posting stuff that is "rumors" and saying its fact.

supra_speed
02-20-2005, 02:27 AM
http://xbox2.gamegossip.com/comment.php?id=255 :rolleyes: is that a hint of plagarism?

ROFL, that guy has my opinion so I figured that I'd copy it . :lol:

morrissey
02-20-2005, 02:42 AM
ROFL, that guy has my opinion so I figured that I'd copy it . :lol:
That's not funny at all. I asked you about it on the last page and you completely ignored me.

If you are going to copy someone else's opinions, quote the comments. And citing is also recommended. Don't act like a retard.

E sharp
02-20-2005, 03:04 AM
That's not funny at all. Don't act like a retard.

yep. 123

supra_speed
02-20-2005, 03:44 AM
That's not funny at all. I asked you about it on the last page and you completely ignored me.

Sorry i didnt know the command

Rancid Dan
02-20-2005, 05:13 AM
Nintendo didn't really start it, maybe when it became very popular - gaming, but the gaming industry was alive waaaay before nintendo came out.

..nintendo is losing the plot man, with all do respect to them, they lost the plot from gamecube, no online play, no dvd player etc. They are only focused on gaming solely.
As for Microsoft and Playstation they have put more effort into the features of they're consoles and thus are more appealing to the customer. But at the moment I think Microsoft has the edge, they keep talking abouth the new 'vision' they have which is sure to be good in my opinion. Whether you like Nintendo, Playstation or Mircrosoft, it's all personal preferance.

BTW: I don't know why everone hates Microsoft, you say they don't have enough security, why the hell do you buy XP or whatever in the 1st place, go use a ****ing Mac if u dont like it.

Oh no, a games console doesn't have a DVD player !! :rolleyes:

Who started it then ?

Mojo2004
02-20-2005, 07:40 AM
*as next gen consoles develop a personality*

/Xbox 2 attacks me


oh noes :upset:

Rancid Dan
02-20-2005, 07:41 AM
When are u making the final thread Mojo ?

parijatkumar
02-20-2005, 09:17 AM
If the new xbox was anything like the last one then I will go for that, so many mods can be made, completely awesome.

And by the time ps3 will be released I suspect 4ghz will be the norm or below average, if its the similar processer as a amd or intel.

Mr. Ron
02-20-2005, 09:32 AM
I don't care about the new Xbox. I'm a rabid Playstaion owner. :angry: :)

ChodaBoy
02-20-2005, 09:37 AM
Isnt the processor for ps3 made by IBM,Sony and some other company? Its supposed to "blow the other competition away" because of the way it works, it can carry out over a trillion processes a minute according to one site i was on.

StaticSynth
02-20-2005, 01:37 PM
Isnt the processor for ps3 made by IBM,Sony and some other company? Its supposed to "blow the other competition away" because of the way it works, it can carry out over a trillion processes a minute according to one site i was on.

I guarantee you it won't "blow away the competition" graphically. It will be the most powerful out of the three consoles, but the gap won't be big. Besides, graphics are going to be so good on all the consoles anyway. The thing that's going to set the PS3 apart from the competition is the Sony name and all the extra features that will come with it (it's rumored that Tivo will be built-in).

Supra Speed, change the name of this thread to "Xbox 2, PS3, and Revolution", No point in ignoring one of the three major competitors.

Rancid Dan
02-20-2005, 02:47 PM
I've told him to change it on several occasions...

Jonny
02-20-2005, 02:48 PM
He's not gonna. Because Nintendo is dead to him.

Rancid Dan
02-20-2005, 02:49 PM
Yeah........

morrissey
02-20-2005, 07:53 PM
He's not gonna. Because Nintendo is dead to him.
Correction: Nintendo is dead to the original author of that post.

:eng101:

Jonny
02-21-2005, 04:45 AM
Correction: Nintendo is dead to the original author of that post.

:eng101:
Ah, true.

merobb
02-23-2005, 07:49 AM
Correction: Nintendo is dead to the original author of that post.

:eng101:

Nintendo is far...FAR from dead. :rolleyes:

supra_speed
02-24-2005, 03:12 AM
........Stop flaming me, I said I didnt know the command for Quoting, geez, and i was too tired to type in that someone else said it! Anyway any news about the consoles?

morrissey
02-24-2005, 03:23 AM
Nintendo is far...FAR from dead. :rolleyes:
GG, retard.

I wasn't the one who made that comment. Read the thread first.

Dacama
02-24-2005, 03:29 AM
Change the god **** name of this thread to

Xbox 2, PS3, Revolution

supra_speed
02-24-2005, 04:58 AM
I would but i dont know how to :S. should i add a poll?

merobb
02-24-2005, 07:29 AM
GG, retard.

I wasn't the one who made that comment. Read the thread first.

I imagine calling people a retard has gotten you alot of friends here :rolleyes:

My first comment was aimed toward the author, the fact that you said it like it is helped me to quote it.

Red Stripe
02-24-2005, 08:05 AM
the new Xbox, there not putting a memory disk inside, THATS THE REASON WHY I BOUGHT XBOX INSTEAD OS PS2, the new Xbox is gonna suck, they're limiting the features and making it a lot smaller

merobb
02-24-2005, 08:12 AM
That's not a fact yet. Nothing's really going to be known until around May, right before E3. I've heard the could possibly release 3 different Xbox's: one w/ hard drive, one w/o, and one with PC qualities to it. At this point, everything is rumor.

supra_speed
02-24-2005, 11:05 PM
the new Xbox, there not putting a memory disk inside, THATS THE REASON WHY I BOUGHT XBOX INSTEAD OS PS2, the new Xbox is gonna suck, they're limiting the features and making it a lot smaller

None of that is fact, nothing is really definite about any of the new consoles, all that these are a rumors. We'll just have to wait and see. :amaze:

Let's Chop Cats!
02-24-2005, 11:31 PM
Supposedly there will be different types of xbox 2. Ones with a HD, ones without. Only time will tell though.

supra_speed
02-25-2005, 12:31 AM
Supposedly there will be different types of xbox 2. Ones with a HD, ones without. Only time will tell though.

I heard that last year. Unlikely. Hopefully, they will keep the prices of the new consoles at reasonable prices. Just a waste if not. :confused:

icebase
02-25-2005, 03:37 AM
3 processors you say?! Well, I'll buy one based on that! :rolleyes:

wtf are we only talking about xbox and nintendo????

Ps3 will own everything. It aint coming out to after the xbox is out to see how good it is then sony will tweek the ps3 to make it better than the xbox2 just like xbox did to the ps2........... should be fun

fatwreckpunk
02-25-2005, 03:50 AM
Microsoft will beat sony again hands down I bet :naughty:

icebase
02-25-2005, 03:55 AM
Wrong^^^

The only reason sony were beat by microsoft was because the ps2 was out a long time before the x box so naturally x box had the advantage. Now sony have it. Should be fun if you ask me.


BTW nintendo should just go back into a hole and stay there. They'll make more money that way. It might actually force them to come out with a decent console............. :rolleyes:

supra_speed
02-25-2005, 05:10 AM
Wrong^^^

The only reason sony were beat by microsoft was because the ps2 was out a long time before the x box so naturally x box had the advantage. Now sony have it. Should be fun if you ask me.


BTW nintendo should just go back into a hole and stay there. They'll make more money that way. It might actually force them to come out with a decent console............. :rolleyes:

Hmm, Im no Nintendo fan ever since n64 came out. As for XboX getting p00ned by ps3. I doubt it. Just because a console comes out after doesn't make it better.

icebase
02-25-2005, 05:38 AM
could do man. Think about it. You could use the extra time to tweek it and mabey get more developers to go to that console. Once the ps3 is out resident evil will go back to it's home.

merobb
02-25-2005, 07:45 AM
The only reason sony were beat by microsoft was because the ps2 was out a long time before the x box so naturally x box had the advantage. Now sony have it. Should be fun if you ask me.

I don't know where you got your facts, but their wrong. Where have you read Xbox beating PS2? "the ps2 was out a long time before the x box so naturally x box had the advantage," how does that give them an advantage? In that time PS2 sold millions of consoles before the other 2 were even out. Now how did that give them an advantage?

angus-young
02-25-2005, 08:35 AM
well gta games are the bomb
and btw X box can suck my nuts

angus-young
02-25-2005, 08:39 AM
apparently the new xbox will be named the xbox next and the ps3 will be a psx

Lionheart1827
02-25-2005, 09:25 AM
Wrong^^^

The only reason sony were beat by microsoft was because the ps2 was out a long time before the x box so naturally x box had the advantage. Now sony have it. Should be fun if you ask me.


BTW nintendo should just go back into a hole and stay there. They'll make more money that way. It might actually force them to come out with a decent console............. :rolleyes:

Sony was not beaten by microsoft, I dont know wtf you are talking about. The games on PS2 are way better than the Xbox's mediocre library and the PS2 destroys the Xbox sales.

Also, Nintendo and its gamecube has been making profit long before the PS2 and Xbox did. GC was making profit ever since it launched. The Xbox and PS2 took years before they broke even.

merobb
02-25-2005, 01:19 PM
apparently the new xbox will be named the xbox next and the ps3 will be a psx

That's a rumor about the Xbox and the next Playstation isn't going to be called PSX. PSX is the name of Sony's failed attempt at a beefed up PS2.

supra_speed
02-25-2005, 09:44 PM
Should i put a poll in?

Amorpha
02-26-2005, 10:28 AM
nintendo is losing the plot man,They are only focused on gaming solely.
:rolleyes:

Rancid Dan
02-26-2005, 11:13 AM
Should i put a poll in?

No, you'd probably mess it up.

StaticSynth
02-26-2005, 08:24 PM
Wrong^^^

The only reason sony were beat by microsoft was because the ps2 was out a long time before the x box so naturally x box had the advantage. Now sony have it. Should be fun if you ask me.


BTW nintendo should just go back into a hole and stay there. They'll make more money that way. It might actually force them to come out with a decent console............. :rolleyes:

The installed uderbase of the PS2 is like 50 million worldwide, while xbox has only like 15 million and Gamecube has 14 million. So I ask you, did the xbox beat the PS2 this generation? :rolleyes:

Arrakakaka
02-26-2005, 08:26 PM
Yeah Ill Say. Xbox Bettr Be Better Im Counting On Halo3 To Be Good.....lame Single Player Halo2
Yea,i was expecting 30 levels with 15 on earth....dang Halo 2 disappointed me.They should make a prequel to halo,like the books.

*Zombie Autopilot*
02-26-2005, 08:35 PM
im gunna buy xbox 2 just for halo 3. im not gunna waste my munny on a ps3

supra_speed
02-26-2005, 11:35 PM
Yea,i was expecting 30 levels with 15 on earth....dang Halo 2 disappointed me.They should make a prequel to halo,like the books.

Hell yeah!, mad if there is downloadable content as well, such as gimmick mini games, I'd sure like to get more laughs out of it.

icebase
02-28-2005, 05:20 AM
I don't know where you got your facts, but their wrong. Where have you read Xbox beating PS2? "the ps2 was out a long time before the x box so naturally x box had the advantage," how does that give them an advantage? In that time PS2 sold millions of consoles before the other 2 were even out. Now how did that give them an advantage?


It gave them the advantage to make a better console. ie better graphics, loading time's and the hard drive they stuck in the x box.

StaticSynth
02-28-2005, 12:44 PM
It gave them the advantage to make a better console. ie better graphics, loading time's and the hard drive they stuck in the x box.

Too bad the PS2 absolutely demolished XBOX in terms of sales and has much better exclusive software.

Lionheart1827
02-28-2005, 08:44 PM
Too bad the PS2 absolutely demolished XBOX in terms of sales and has much better exclusive software.

Correctamundo.

Not only that, the PS2 has an enormous fanbase. :thumb:

icebase
03-01-2005, 06:15 AM
true true. Im a ps2 fan but im buying an xbox 2. Ps3 is goin to be great but i'll think of something.............*looks for new pc parts*

MattyBlade
03-01-2005, 07:10 AM
Too bad the PS2 absolutely demolished XBOX in terms of sales and has much better exclusive software.
truth i was so dissapointed with halo 2 because it took waaaaaaaaaaay to long to come out for what they actually incorporated into the game

Undertaker04
03-01-2005, 08:16 AM
Ill buy the ps3 but it lookes like a Cd player
www.gamespot.com for images

StaticSynth
03-01-2005, 10:14 AM
Ill buy the ps3 but it lookes like a Cd player
www.gamespot.com for images

There are no pictures of the PS3 yet. No one knows what it looks like.

How do you people keep getting the impression that the Next-gen consoles have been unveiled? They won't be unveiled until around E3 in May.

Rancid Dan
03-01-2005, 10:59 AM
I can't wait for E3.

Katana
03-01-2005, 02:01 PM
I'd go to E3, but there's that whole money thing...

They probably aren't going to have a 4.8GHz PS3; the chip can go that fast, but they'll leave it at a speed slow enough to be cooled with something that isn't too expensive. It would be so cool to be able to overclock and mod your PS3...

supra_speed
03-01-2005, 02:12 PM
That may be true. www.ps3portal.com - theres some rumors goin round about a cell stuff up.

Polyamarous
03-01-2005, 02:26 PM
gameplay has to be the most important thing, ninetdno are gods. The new DS with the touch screen will be amazing, plus it isnt excessively expensive.

YEAH WOOOOO
you can roll up toilet paper on the DS!!!!

Pink poodle
03-01-2005, 03:00 PM
YEAH WOOOOO
you can roll up toilet paper on the DS!!!!
I hate it when you're taking a **** then you find out that there's no toilet paper. Then your boxers are poo...

T'an-mo
03-01-2005, 03:01 PM
Xbox 2- I heard their doubeling evereything, should be a good consol thought they'v bought rare who are outstanding at what they do.

Ps3. I'm a ps2 owner, feel bad now. It will probally be the best to some people who are like 'Yeah ps3 got bare games' But I think their loosing their touch. About one in 50 games of ps2 were good and now their trying to buy there way out.

Nintendo- Yeah alot of people might think the GC sucked, screw you I belive in nintendo and that their the only company who cares about it's consumers I belive the owner is a genius.

The phantom? I also heard a consol called the phantom was coming out whic apparently should be the best but meh I'm for nintendo

ToRidTheDisease
03-01-2005, 03:02 PM
Xbox >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ps2 or Ps3

Xbox is just so much better. Better graphics, control, games, gameplay, sound, everything.

Lionheart1827
03-01-2005, 03:09 PM
I'd go to E3, but there's that whole money thing...

They probably aren't going to have a 4.8GHz PS3; the chip can go that fast, but they'll leave it at a speed slow enough to be cooled with something that isn't too expensive. It would be so cool to be able to overclock and mod your PS3...

Yeah it could be a 10ghz chip even, but something else in the system is gonna bottleneck it, like ram.

nothingtolose
03-01-2005, 03:28 PM
8 gHz?

Some of the fastest computers right now are only at like 4.5!

Mindboggling.


EDIT: page snyped :evil:

GenuineImitation
03-01-2005, 06:18 PM
After reading my monthly copy of EGM, I found out that Xbox 2 will be coming out first. Due to a new hardware system, it may not be able to play Xbox 1 games. The PS3 will be coming out later (not much)and may possibly be more powerful. It is almost definete that it will be able to play PS2 games and maybe PSone games. I would assume that they will both be able to play DVD's as well.

whats her face
03-01-2005, 06:23 PM
I heard the same thing too, Miscrosoft is going to loose alot of money to Sony because they wont be able to play Xbox games.

darkstalker
03-01-2005, 08:30 PM
i still say ps3 all the way the xbox has yet to impress me at all so why will i put any faith into the xbox 2 and what i was last told was that it wont be running on three but runing on a supped out pentium 4 which is like crap to cell technoligy...

supra_speed
03-02-2005, 12:51 AM
hmmm, post all the info u get plz. heres another fake xbox. http://mxemu.com/news.php?newsid=1109568814

Jonny
03-02-2005, 04:21 AM
hmmm, post all the info u get plz. heres another fake xbox. http://mxemu.com/news.php?newsid=1109568814
They can't call that an xbox though. Maybe and xsphere or xball.

bassist_for_a_band
03-02-2005, 10:19 AM
Uhhh.... No. I don't think....

I've heard nothing about Xbox 2, except one thing: 2007. And I'm a pretty big video game-r... And good, too. But of course, I don't have many information sources...


PSP- March 2005. Uses Universal Media Discs which are 6 cm in width. Has memory sticks like a digital camera. USB port, many many games.... Check out ebgames.com

but man i want these both....

onme more thing: please let me know somehow if the xbox 2 is really coming out- I have an xbox game (dont ask why) but no xbox. I was thinking of getting one, but if xbox 2 is coming out soon then i'll wait.

bassist_for_a_band
03-02-2005, 10:24 AM
ggrrr so much to read

but oh yea- ps3... i haven't heard much about this either, but i was told 2007 for this also. i dont think they'd have psp this year and a whole nother, really really good, console this or next year... dunno

i dunno about an xbox though... they sound cool, and i think i'd play it a lot, but im a big PS guy... i have a playstation, psone, and ps2, along with many games and whatnot... and i'm definitely getting a PSP somehow...

Katana
03-02-2005, 11:26 AM
8 gHz?

Some of the fastest computers right now are only at like 4.5!

Mindboggling.


EDIT: page snyped :evil:

Fastest at stock is 3.7 GHz for Intel, and AMD's equivalent is 4 GHz, although it's only at like 2.8 but it's as fast as an Intel would be at 4.

Lionheart1827
03-02-2005, 11:40 AM
Fastest at stock is 3.7 GHz for Intel, and AMD's equivalent is 4 GHz, although it's only at like 2.8 but it's as fast as an Intel would be at 4.

Yup, due to AMD's clock cycles. :thumb:

supra_speed
03-03-2005, 10:35 PM
Hmm, everyone post good websites on this topic plz :)

"5150"
03-05-2005, 06:24 AM
We'll have to wait for E3 this spring to find out the exact specs of the PS3. It's rumoured to have a 5gHz processor

Rancid Dan
03-05-2005, 07:38 AM
Hmm, everyone post good websites on this topic plz :)

Change the name of the thread.

GenuineImitation
03-05-2005, 12:38 PM
I've heard nothing about Xbox 2, except one thing: 2007. And I'm a pretty big video game-r... And good, too. But of course, I don't have many information sources....

Where did you hear 2007? I dont think magazines like EGM or websites would say xbox 2 is coming out ayear or two before it really is.

supra_speed
03-05-2005, 04:20 PM
Change the name of the thread.

If you told me how to do it maybe i could. :S

supra_speed
03-05-2005, 04:25 PM
They can't call that an xbox though. Maybe and xsphere or xball.

Just maybe, its a gimmick model made by some designer.

Rancid Dan
03-05-2005, 04:35 PM
If you told me how to do it maybe i could. :S

Edit you first post.

Lionheart1827
03-05-2005, 05:13 PM
Edit you first post.

123 with a legendary final blow from link :thumb:

supra_speed
03-05-2005, 09:04 PM
Edit you first post.

a bit more description plz

Gnarmageddon
03-05-2005, 09:13 PM
The new issue of PSM has pictures of the PS3, but I'm not sure if they are the final outcome. It says that the PS3 will most likely be playable at E3.

T'an-mo
03-06-2005, 04:09 AM
Nintendo will kill them all.

Rancid Dan
03-06-2005, 06:29 AM
a bit more description plz

Edit your fist post and edit the name of it.

GenuineImitation
03-07-2005, 06:27 PM
Nintendo will kill them all.


Yea, especially when they refuse to add online play saying gamers don't want it

StaticSynth
03-07-2005, 07:39 PM
Yea, especially when they refuse to add online play saying gamers don't want it

No, they say it's currently not a proper business decission for them because when they take their consoles online they are going to have a no charge service unlike XBL. They will do it when technology improves enough for them to offer a free online service without it forcing them to take a hit in profits. It is already confirmed that Nintendo is working with Square-Enix to take the DS online, so they will most likely take the Revolution online.

Lionheart1827
03-07-2005, 08:36 PM
No, they say it's currently not a proper business decission for them because when they take their consoles online they are going to have a no charge service unlike XBL. They will do it when technology improves enough for them to offer a free online service without it forcing them to take a hit in profits. It is already confirmed that Nintendo is working with Square-Enix to take the DS online, so they will most likely take the Revolution online.

Well said. :thumb:

GenuineImitation
03-08-2005, 06:16 PM
No, they say it's currently not a proper business decission for them because when they take their consoles online they are going to have a no charge service unlike XBL. They will do it when technology improves enough for them to offer a free online service without it forcing them to take a hit in profits. It is already confirmed that Nintendo is working with Square-Enix to take the DS online, so they will most likely take the Revolution online.

I guess I was wrongly informed. Thanks for the insight