*Current Gen Console Discussion* (Wii/PS3/X360)

[Let's Chop Cats!]

This thread is the official thread for the next generation of consoles. Any Wii, Xbox 360 or PS3 discussion is to be in here.

[Kurtz]

It won't compare to PS3 and the new Xbox at all.

[Pazz]

When nintendo makes a new conole they change everything about it. The controllers, the game(disc). I think it would be fairly good though.

[Jonny]

It won't compare to PS3 and the new Xbox at all.
And you're basing that on what?

[Lionheart1827]

Supposedly they've licensed a company that deals with gyroscopic technology. Not sure if they're going to use it with the Revolution, but if they do, you can bet it will involve the new controllers. :thumb:

They've been saying its going to revolutionize gaming so, we shall just have to wait till this years E3 in may. expect to see a lot of new info on soon to be the best game ever............Zelda. :thumb:

[Mister_Che]

New controller:

A USB port in your head links you to the console allowing for complete and accurate control with maximum possibility for distractions. Course it costs millions for the operation, but its worth it for Zelda. Just sell a kidney or two. I certainly will.

[Kurtz]

And you're basing that on what?
Gamecube wasn't as good as PS2 or Xbox.

History tends to repeat itself.

[Let's Chop Cats!]

N64 > PS1

Logic still working?

[JACK!]

Gamecube wasn't as good as PS2 or Xbox.

History tends to repeat itself.

The GC owned Ps2 and XBOX. Some people are just too concerned about graphics and they forget that the games are meant to be fun. I am a bit concerned about the A and B buttons going though.

[Kurtz]

Not really. :(
I used to love N64, with Goldeneye, Perfect Dark and all.

But recently, you've heard all this crap about 1 trillion or so frames per second or so for the PS3, and Gamecube was a huge disappointment.

[Kurtz]

The GC owned Ps2 and XBOX. Some people are just too concerned about graphics and they forget that the games are meant to be fun. I am a bit concerned about the A and B buttons going though.
The GC games sucked. Luigi's Mansion, ect.
And I hate the controller.

To me, it kind of game me the thought that Nintendo's reputation went to being the top choice for a system for kids 6-12.

[Let's Chop Cats!]

GC probably has the best good to bad game ratio.

[JACK!]

The GC games sucked. Luigi's Mansion, ect.
And I hate the controller.

To me, it kind of game me the thought that Nintendo's reputation went to being the top choice for a system for kids 6-12.

Yes ok, Luigi's Mansion was a bit sucky I have to admit but the Rougue Squadren games were great, Eternal Darkness is no kids game, same goes for the Resi games and Super Smash Bros Melee while being simplistic with bright and some times childlike graphics has to be one of the best multiplayer titles ever. I also have to say you are the first person i've known to have a problem with the pad even my friends who also swear the PS2 is better, agree that the GC is by far the most comfortable pad out there.

[Kurtz]

GC probably has the best good to bad game ratio.
Like, 3:2 or what

[Kurtz]

Yes ok, Luigi's Mansion was a bit sucky I have to admit but the Rougue Squadren games were great, Eternal Darkness is no kids game, same goes for the Resi games and Super Smash Bros Melee while being simplistic with bright and some times childlike graphics has to be one of the best multiplayer titles ever. I also have to say you are the first person i've known to have a problem with the pad even my friends who also swear the PS2 is better, agree that the GC is by far the most comfortable pad out there.
It might have something to do with getting so comfortable from the N64 that got me that way. I also play PS2 on a regular basis, so it feels weird playing on a GC.

But SSM pwns. I forgot about that.

[benbenben]

how can you not like the controller? it is ace,its so comfortable and easy to use **sigh**
gc should hav and could have done better. personally i really like them. some of the games suck but others rule!!

[Kurtz]

how can you not like the controller? it is ace,its so comfortable and easy to use **sigh**
gc should hav and could have done better. personally i really like them. some of the games suck but others rule!!
I guess I'm just a weirdo. :(

Oh piddles.

[cheesepuff]

how can you not like the controller? it is ace,its so comfortable and easy to use **sigh**
gc should hav and could have done better. personally i really like them. some of the games suck but others rule!!

Agreed, the GC controller is my favorite of the big 3. The DS SUCKS though from all accounts, I hear the touch screen is a major annoyance, so hopefully they don't do anything too drastic without some serious feedback from gamers before releasing it.

[Lionheart1827]

If you base GC success to a technicality, it is the most successful out of the current 3 consoles. Why? It's gained profit from the beginning of its lifespan where it took Xbox(3 years) and PS2(2 years) to strike even with their profits. That technically makes it the better system.

But based on how good the games are and how much you like the system, that is based on opinion.

Personally, I think the GC is the best of the 3 because it provides a gaming exclusive console. I also own a PS2 and I think it is a great system also, but I like GC's titles much better. Xbox i recently sold because of its boring games. :thumb:

[Zakath]

XBOX Next = Halo 3 and Condemnation.

Yep, looks like I'll be a Bill Gates whore for another gen of consoles.

[pikester]

what'll the follow up the gaycube with? The queersphere?

/awaits flood of negative rep by nintendo fanboys

[Tails]

I read some other articles on that page, and they mention tilt-sensitive controllers.

Spooky.

[pikester]

I read some other articles on that page, and they mention tilt-sensitive controllers.

Spooky.

Anyone ever play that game-boy kirby game where you had to roll him around by tilting the gameboy?

Oh-so amusing.

[Lionheart1827]

I read some other articles on that page, and they mention tilt-sensitive controllers.

Spooky.

like i said earlier, Gyroscopic technology, sounds good. :thumb:

[JBJ]

Old news, but I've seen the video of it supposedly in action. Looks really good.

[EightMilesHigh]

X-Box > Gamecube IN MY OPINION.

[TheSpokenWheel]

It won't compare to PS3 and the new Xbox at all.
correct, It'll be much better

[JBJ]

X-Box > Gamecube IN MY OPINION.
For this generation, yes on both hardware and games. But the next generation might be a little different...

[Ganondorf]

It won't compare to PS3 and the new Xbox at all.

No. You can't back this claim up.

[even if they were canadian]

It won't compare to PS3 and the new Xbox at all.
I agree with you because of the overwhelming evidence you have put forth. :rolleyes:
But recently, you've heard all this crap about 1 trillion or so frames per second or so for the PS3, and Gamecube was a huge disappointment.
What exactly does this mean?

1 trillion frames per second? Impossible. And even if it were possible, it would look about the same as 80 frames per second because the eye has a refresh rate of only about 75 Hz.

Way to spew crap all over the ground; now we need a mop.


EDIT: My last sentence was so dumb I had to keep it there.

[_Anubis_]

No. You can't back this claim up.
Sure he can. His argument is flawless. He doesn't like Gamecube. Therefore everything else made by the same company is doomed to fail.

[Kurtz]

Fine, fine. It was a biased opinion.

Jeez you guys are ****ing pushy.

[guitarded_chuck]

It won't compare to PS3 and the new Xbox at all.
Oh, you've had the rare pleasure of playing all three now have you?


Anyway, not much to look forward to yet, since they don't say much about it. Looking forward to the new controller design. Nintendo has made my favorite controllers for every generation, except maybe N64, which feels a litle uncomfortable. But I love how the Gamecube controller fits perfectly in my hands.

Hopefully a new Super Smash Bros.! And I'd love to see a new Zelda with an HUGE world.

[Thor]

You spelled console wrong, way to go.

[Kurtz]

Oh, you've had the rare pleasure of playing all three now have you?
To be frank, I actually have.

[benbenben]

whatever nintendo brings out will kick any other consoles ***. i mean how underrated was the gamescube? i preferred that to any other console i played on. sao what if it dont have dvd players an cd players built in, since when was a GAMES console made for dvds and cds the gamescube was purely made for gaming and kicked *** :thumb:

[tsl_ste]

for the fact that Nintendo think about what they are doing makes me trust them more than any other console.

i have both a CG and Ps2, and for a while my GC collecvted dust (a friend gave it to me for £20)
one day i wanted to get a few games and get into the whole thing, and i now find myself playing on it more than my Ps2.
i had a go on my Ps2 the other day, and found myself completely uncomfortable with the pad.

i love the fact that you can go into a game store, look through the Ps2 games, and find that nearly all of them are pretty poor, they have one good game every so often.
and then, you come to the GameCube, with it's tiny tiny shelf because it isn't as popular, but find yourself looking at a whole shelf full of good games.

and lets face it, what other console lets us play the bongos?

another point made, the bongo's and a game for me were £29.99, thats cheeper than most Ps2 games at £39.99.

[Zakath]

and lets face it, what other console lets us play the bongos?

another point made, the bongo's and a game for me were £29.99, thats cheeper than most Ps2 games at £39.99.
I have a drum set for playing drums, when I play video games I want to shoot ****.

[tsl_ste]

i never said that i want to play the drums when i'm playing a game.

i'm making an example that Nintendo have given you a set of drums for buying their game, and not every console is willing to do something like that.

they want you to have fun. have you tried playing with the bongo's before?
i'm not talking about the music Donkey Kong game, i'm refaring to Jungle Beat.

it's a simple as hell 2D side scroller.

tap the right bongo = run right
tap the left = run left
tap both = jump
clap = grab

the aim of the game is to get as many banana's as possible by pulling of combo beats, so this would be a huge none stop jumping combo, while grabbing bunches of banana's as you fly threw the air, then jumping on an enemy hitting him in the head, grabbing the banana's he leaves behind, and then carrying on the combo.

then you have boss battles with that.

it's a well thought out game and easily one of the funnest games i have played in my life.

[Zakath]

I'm sorry, some of us are intelligent enough to require more then the amazing abilities to "jump" and "grab" to keep us occupied for longer then 10 seconds.

And I think the other companies realize that it's more trouble then it's worth to make bongos because only the few mindless retards like yourself who ride the tart cart to SpEd class every afternoon would buy them.

[tsl_ste]

i dont know if read my previous posts properly, but i said that i got the Bongo's with the game for free.

i didn't say i was amazed by the fact that you can "jump" and "grab", but i was shocked to find out how fun the game was, and how well it has worked with the bongo's.

if you'll excuse me, my tart cart is here to take me to my room and play with my bongo's :rolleyes:

[vash_the_stampede]

The GC owned Ps2 and XBOX. Some people are just too concerned about graphics and they forget that the games are meant to be fun. I am a bit concerned about the A and B buttons going though.
**** right

[sketchyjoe]

I love the way Nintendo are never afraid to do something different.

[DemonicRubberDucky]

Indeed. GCN destroys in comparison to XBOX and PS2.

And Zakath, as sexy as your avatar is, in my opinion you should change it before a mod asks you to.

[Kurtz]

And Zakath, as sexy as your avatar is, in my opinion you should change it before a mod asks you to.
But is so hawt.

[Zakath]

And Zakath, as sexy as your avatar is, in my opinion you should change it before a mod asks you to.
Plenty of mods have seen it, and none have asked me to change it. So you can shove your opinion up your ***, right between your twisted panties.

[talk show host]

Plenty of mods have seen it, and none have asked me to change it. So you can shove your opinion up your ***, right between your twisted panties.

You know, it's scary. I used to despise you, yet I find you increasingly amusing as time goes on.

Heh.

[Zakath]

You know, it's scary. I used to despise you, yet I find you increasingly amusing as time goes on.

Heh.
Thats intriguing.

[Rancid Dan]

I will get the revolution as well as the XBOX Next, so i can have a good selection of different games.

With me just getting a Gamecube, the selection of games i got were pretty limited.
But Nintendo never have and never will let me down.

[DemonicRubberDucky]

Plenty of mods have seen it, and none have asked me to change it. So you can shove your opinion up your ***, right between your twisted panties.

Jesus Christ, man, excuse me for living.

[Zakath]

Jesus Christ, man, excuse me for living.
I'm not the one shoving my opinions across to other people who don't give a ****.

[Arrakakaka]

And Zakath, as sexy as your avatar is, in my opinion you should change it before a mod asks you to.
Your point is..

[StaticSynth]

I have a drum set for playing drums, when I play video games I want to shoot ****.

I'm sorry, some of us are intelligent enough to require more then the amazing abilities to "jump" and "grab" to keep us occupied for longer then 10 seconds.

And I think the other companies realize that it's more trouble then it's worth to make bongos because only the few mindless retards like yourself who ride the tart cart to SpEd class every afternoon would buy them.

I'm sure you've been told this many times, but you're a close-minded retard. :thumb:

I also like how you implied that you're intelligent.

[Zakath]

I'm sure you've been told this many times, but you're a close-minded retard. :thumb:

I also like how you implied that you're intelligent.
I'm sorry, who are you?

[DemonicRubberDucky]

I'm not the one shoving my opinions across to other people who don't give a ****.

I give you a piece of advice i didn't know would be unuseful, and you get pissed at me. What the crap. :angry:

Heh. everyone's starting to hate you. :thumb:

[Zakath]

I give you a piece of advice i didn't know would be unuseful, and you get pissed at me. What the crap. :angry:

Heh. everyone's starting to hate you. :thumb:
Yay? Plenty of people hate me, plenty like me. I really couldn't care less.

PS If I'm so hated, how come I have 21k rep points?
Hint: You can't give yourself rep.

[DemonicRubberDucky]

you win. in closing, god**** you. :)

Anyway, how much do you guys think nintendo's next console will cost upon realese? i'm thinking $200 like the GCN.

[allalone]

I'm gonna get it.

[StaticSynth]

Yay? Plenty of people hate me, plenty like me. I really couldn't care less.

PS If I'm so hated, how come I have 21k rep points?
Hint: You can't give yourself rep.

Actually, you can if you use your imagination, but I imagine you don't have much luck in that area..."when I play video games I want to shoot ****" :lol: What an idiot...

[Zakath]

Actually, you can if you use your imagination, but I imagine you don't have much luck in that area..."when I play video games I want to shoot ****" :lol: What an idiot...
It would take an extremely, extremely long time to get any significant amount of rep if you registered multiple accounts and repped them then repped your main account back, since you can only rep the same person every 30 reps you give out. I'm glad to see your common sense is showing itself.

And I make no excuses for what I play. I play video games to do what I can't do in real life. This includes a) destruction b) murder c) some other stuff. If I wanted to play video games so I could play drums, I wouldn't bother actually practicing drums in real life.

[StaticSynth]

It would take an extremely, extremely long time to get any significant amount of rep if you registered multiple accounts and repped them then repped your main account back, since you can only rep the same person every 30 reps you give out. I'm glad to see your common sense is showing itself.

Glad to know you don't understand that you wouldn't have to do it manually. But then again you've already proven more than once that you lack imagination or any interest in cerativity.

And I make no excuses for what I play. I play video games to do what I can't do in real life. This includes a) destruction b) murder c) some other stuff. If I wanted to play video games so I could play drums, I wouldn't bother actually practicing drums in real life.

Have you ever played Donkey Konga? Thought so. Don't comment on games you've never played. Any fool would realize that the only point of playing the game is to compete with other people in multiplayer to see who can get a higher score/who has better timing. Are you saying you compete against other people with drums in real life? :rolleyes:

Your argument was already put to rest by the guy who mentioned Jungle Beat which has you playing a side-scroller with the bongos. But hey, who needs new forms of gameplay when you can shoot **** in Halo? :rolleyes:

I can hardly think of any videogame that has you doing real-life things other than games like the Sims. If you think the only games that are worth playing are violent videogames then you perfectly fit my description of you.

:thumb:

[Amorpha]

Are you saying you compete against other people with drums in real life? :rolleyes:
That's entirely possible, and would be cheaper than him buying a videogame to let him do it with only two drums and a limited amount of backing tracks.

Also, as much as I prefer the Gamecube to the Xbox and PS2, you're still telling him that his opinion is wrong. People play videogames for different reasons, and the fact that someone prefers Halo to Super Monkey Ball doesn't make him an idiot.

[Rancid Dan]

Static Synth is one hell of a good poster.

Rep +

[T'an-mo]

I'm taking a hunch that ps3 will suck.

I really want nintendo do to well and so they should

Xbox 2 I thinkis gonna be the best.

[DemonicRubberDucky]

I think that the Xbox 2 will suck twice as much as the Xbox did, and the Xbox sucked a LOT. :naughty:

[T'an-mo]

Xbox didn't suck. I don't own one but I play it alot and for a first consol microsoft did good.

Nitendo still pwnz all though.

[DemonicRubberDucky]

Yeah, nintendo rocks. Maybe i was too cold on the Xbox... "I didn't like it" is better (and nicer) than "it sucked a lot".

[yoshiman14]

no matter how good the nintendo console may be it won't compare to the masses of ppl who will sworm to get a hold of the new ps3 or xbox 2.

[T'an-mo]

I've heard bad things about the PS3 like it being online and it cosys £1 to play a game but meh, proballu rumors.

I own a ps2. I guess it's alright game cubes got better graphics and stuff but as much as I hate to admit it ps2 has better games. But also more ****ter games.

I really hope nintendos new project does so well and bring out more better games.

Capcorm and other companies were oginially going to be exlusive to nintendo but something about the contracts went wrong. And this time Nintendo are going to learn from their mistakes kick the crapout of sony.

[vash_the_stampede]

I found some pic of revoluton on gamespot, dont know if they are official or not heres the link. http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/02/25/screenindex_6119243.html

the pics are official people.

[JACK!]

I found some pic of revoluton on gamespot, dont know if they are official or not heres the link. http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/02/25/screenindex_6119243.html

the pics are official people.

That's sexy.

[StaticSynth]

I found some pic of revoluton on gamespot, dont know if they are official or not heres the link. http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/02/25/screenindex_6119243.html

the pics are official people.

Actually those pics are bogus. Gamespot said it themselves.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/02/25/news_6119243.html

"RUMOR #5: A working prototype and final drawing of the Nintendo Revolution have surfaced.

Sources: Recurring RC guest star Engadget.com and Gearlive, making its RC debut.

The official story: See below.

What we heard: GameCubers were double-fisting rumors this week, when a one-two shot of photographic "proof" of the console hit the Web. First up was the Engadget photo (pictured) of "what is supposed to be an in-house development system of Nintendo’s next-gen game console" (see screen index), which the site claims came from the Nintendo.com forums. However, even by Engadget's often-loose standards, the machine pictured "could (and probably is) totally, totally fake." Slightly more credible were the mockups that appeared on Gearlive, which showed a computer-generated model of an elegant, saucer-like console. But it, too, was discredited, with Gearlive editors branding it as "a very clever mockup." However, re-posters of the images--which also surfaced on the GameSpot forums--were not so cautious, sparking off round of speculation that will hopefully stop here.

[B]Bogus or not bogus?: Both bogus. "

[StaticSynth]

While we're on the topic of Nintendo's new console, anyone heard about this new Gameboy that might be released toward the end of this year?

http://money.cnn.com/2005/02/28/commentary/game_over/column_gaming/index.htm

There has been a ton of speculation recently that Nintendo would be releasing a new Gameboy called the "Gameboy Evolution" and that it would sport Gamecube level graphics. According to this article, Nintendo may be releasing info on it as soon as March 10th.

I think this would be a smart idea. The Gameboy Evolution would compete directly with the PSP while the DS handles the niche gaming market.

[Let's Chop Cats!]

Gamecube graphics? By next week?

As much as I'd love that, I doubt it.

[Jonny]

Gamecube graphics? By next week?

As much as I'd love that, I doubt it.
Which bit? The graphics? Or the next week?

[Let's Chop Cats!]

Both.

[StaticSynth]

I doubt it would be Gamecube level graphics (although it definitely is possible) but it will probably be PS2 level.

Then again, if Nintendo does release Gameboy successor, they are going to need it to be more graphically capable in order for it too compete. In fact, if they just concentrated on the graphics and wi-fi capabilities, they could create a handheld as powerful as the Gamecube and probably not have it cost as much as the PSP.

The PSP costs so much because it tries to be an all-in-one electronics device (though it's features are comparitively sub-par quality).

I say it's possible for the Gameboy Evolution to be a reality. I'm not sure if Nintendo would be able to supply good first-party support for 3 consoles (Revolution, DS, GBE), though.

[Rancid Dan]

The Gameboy evolution will be amazing and it will probably sell more than the DS as it has the game boy name on it.

I bet half of the people who play Gameboys, mainly kids, don't even know that Gameboy is Nintendo

[vash_the_stampede]

LOL! thats true.

[incubliss]

i'm abit of a Nintendo fanboy when it comes to video games and such, and i really hope they will create something that will last.

i really hate buying their consoles, because they go out so quickly, and not many games are made. choice is limited and their time is limited, because Xbox and PS2 get all the games. in my home town, there is only one place that sells Gamecube games now, and that's Game. every other shop only stocks Xbox and PS2, it sucks. same thing happened with N64. Sony completely dwarfed the market.

the thing i love about Nintendo tho, is their absolute loyalty to gaming solely. Xbox and PS2 aren't gaming consoles, they are multimedia consoles now. they sell more because they offer more. DVD players, DVD recorders, Hard drives, etc, all that can enhance the gaming experience, but then don't really have anything to do with it. they are practically PC's!

anyway, i'm gonna be rooting for Nintendo when the new stuff comes about. Go Nintendo!

[Earache]

Wow, there are alot of people who like nintendo hear... i just wanted to say that most people like ps2 alot because there is such a large variety of games, everybody has different tastes as far as games go. That in my opinion is the problem with nintendo, they mainly have games for people under the age of 12, its rather disgracful to nintendo because i loved SNES and N64. But gamecube is terrible, i have the system and the games are limited, i'm sorry but i dont find some idiot running around with a vacum sucking up ghosts fun, or mario with some vacum thingy sucking up polution fun either, i think nintendo is running out of ideas. Look what nintendo did to the new zelda, they made it look like some stupid anime character from Hey Arnold, that was terrible, hopefully the new Zelda will be better... Xbox is a great system because it has a good variety of games for all ages, with out all the crap games sony puts out for PS2. Xbox has great games Voodoo vince for the kids who like platformers, Halo 1 and 2 for fps fans and Morrowind for RPG fans, in my opinion Morrowind is the best rpg ever. Oh man nintendo has Pikmin another stupid game that is soooooo pointless, nintendo is runing out of ideas. Not only that but there controllers are too small, again prooving that nintendos target age is 12 yr olds. I think history will repeat itself with the next generation consoles. Nintendo definatly needs to broaden there horizins age wise, i think there is hope for nintendo though.

[incubliss]

i don't think they do alot of 12< games, i mean PS2 and Xbox get all the ****ty movie titles for their console.

name me 10 games by gamecube that are aimed at under 12's that aren't on PS2 or Xbox? there won't be many, it's just an age old myth now that Gamecube is aimed at kids!

[Let's Chop Cats!]

http://cube.ign.com/articles/593/593733p1.html?fromint=1

March 4, 2005 - In a recent interview with overseas trade publication MCV, Nintendo president Satoru Iwata talked about the company's forthcoming home console, codenamed Revolution. Iwata reiterated that the platform would be fundamentally different from other game systems, and said that its unique make-up could potentially alienate third party publishers, or in contrast draw them in.

"If the next generation platforms are going to create even more gorgeous looking games using further enhanced functionality, and if that next-gen market can still expand the games industry, then I'm afraid that third-parties may not support Nintendo," he said.

Iwata once more compared Revolution to Nintendo DS, and said that like its portable the machine could gain the eye of consumers who normally don't care about games. "On the other hand, what we are trying to do is such a different thing, and people have come to realize that the approach we have taken with Nintendo DS can actually expand the market beyond what existing platforms can do. Therefore I believe there should be more third parties who are willing to support Nintendo's new ideas."

Nintendo's president suggested that third party support for Revolution could depend entirely on whether or not publishers find the console appealing. "If we receive the support of the licensees, I believe we will expand third party support," he said. "If our ideas cannot be appealing enough, then we cannot receive third party support."

Iwata indicated that the next-generation is a risky business for all hardware manufacturers and not just Nintendo. "Already publishers are not hesitant in disclosing their concerns over next generation gaming platforms, and development costs are rising. Publishers are afraid... of whether [the next-gen] consoles can appeal to people who are not the avid game fans of today."

Nintendo plans to unveil Revolution at the May Electronics Entertainment Expo in Los Angeles. Stay tuned for more on the machine.

[Jonny]

Really annoys me when they do that. They try to be different, and they say other consoles are no competition, since what they're doing is so radically different. But then they alienate themselves by adding some gimmick which means games which could potentially be released on all consoles are instead just released on PS3 and Xbox2.

They don't even care if they're the only ones releasing games for their console. It's a case of 'If you want to play games, get a PS or Xbox. If you want to play Nintendo games, get a Nintendo. Because they're the only games on it.'

Seems to me they're happy with their current fanbase, and are content to just release consoles and games which would only appeal to them.

Iwata once more compared Revolution to Nintendo DS, and said that like its portable the machine could gain the eye of consumers who normally don't care about games.Consumers who normally don't care about games are not gonna say 'Oooo... A new and innovative console. Let's buy that!'.

They'd think 'Well, its a good idea, but there's really no point to it. I'll get a PS since I can play DVD's on that too. Plus it has a much larger selection of games'.

Don't get me wrong- I love Nintendo. I've owned a NES, Game boy, GBA SP, N64, Gamecube.... And I'll probably get this new console too. But only because of the exclusives. If it wasn't for them, Nintendo would be dead by now.

Every announcment I see them make, they talk about their 'new, innovative ideas', and while that may be good, they're always shooting themselves in the foot with their attitude to other games developers.

[Rancid Dan]

I agree with most of the recent posts.

I will be rooting for Nintendo, but Nintendo didn't go wrong with Wind Waker, it is/was ace.

[StaticSynth]

Wow, there are alot of people who like nintendo hear... i just wanted to say that most people like ps2 alot because there is such a large variety of games, everybody has different tastes as far as games go. That in my opinion is the problem with nintendo, they mainly have games for people under the age of 12, its rather disgracful to nintendo because i loved SNES and N64. But gamecube is terrible, i have the system and the games are limited, i'm sorry but i dont find some idiot running around with a vacum sucking up ghosts fun, or mario with some vacum thingy sucking up polution fun either, i think nintendo is running out of ideas. Look what nintendo did to the new zelda, they made it look like some stupid anime character from Hey Arnold, that was terrible, hopefully the new Zelda will be better... Xbox is a great system because it has a good variety of games for all ages, with out all the crap games sony puts out for PS2. Xbox has great games Voodoo vince for the kids who like platformers, Halo 1 and 2 for fps fans and Morrowind for RPG fans, in my opinion Morrowind is the best rpg ever. Oh man nintendo has Pikmin another stupid game that is soooooo pointless, nintendo is runing out of ideas. Not only that but there controllers are too small, again prooving that nintendos target age is 12 yr olds. I think history will repeat itself with the next generation consoles. Nintendo definatly needs to broaden there horizins age wise, i think there is hope for nintendo though.

You called Pikmin stupid and complained that they made Zelda look like an Anime character from Hey Arnold (wtf?) in Wind Waker. I honestly don't think you've given the Gamecube a chance. I don't know anybody online or in real life who has played through Wind Waker and not loved the graphical style. And you must not have played Pikmin before because it is brilliant. Don't just look at screenshots and come to decisions about how good a game is without even playing it. And Luigi's Mansion isn't worth playing because there are plenty of GC games way better than it.

Thhe XBOX, GC, and PS2 all have plenty of crappy games, but it is a fact that the PS2 has the most variety out of all the systems and has the best third-party support.

[Rancid Dan]

Yeah, i loved the graphics in the wind waker, his expressions, were so life-like and it was totally different and amazing.

That's not to say i'm glad there going back to normal graphics for the new zelda.

[incubliss]

what's the info on the new Zelda, a release date come up yet?

[TsukasaZero]

Xenon's CPU has three 3.0 GHz PowerPC cores. Each core is capable of two instructions per cycle and has an L1 cache with 32 KB for data and 32 KB for instructions. The three cores share 1 MB of L2 cache. Alpha 2 developer kits currently have two cores instead of three."

Xenon's GPU is a generation beyond the ATI X800. Its clock speed is 500 MHz and it supports Shader 3.0. Developers are currently working with an alpha 2 GPU. Beta GPU units are expected by May and the final GPU is slated for a summer release. The final GPU will be more powerful than anything on the market today; in game terms, it would handle a game like Half-Life 2 with ease.

Xenon will have a USB 2.0 camera. It's capable of 1.2 megapixel still shots and VGA video. Photos can be used in-game and for gamer profiles. The camera can also be used for video chat. It's unknown if the Xenon camera will allow for EyeToy-like gameplay. Developers are currently using a simulated camera driver.

http://xbox.gamespy.com/xbox/microsoft-xbox/594331p1.html

HELLS YES!

[iliketoplaydrums10111]

A camera?

Wow

Seems like an awesome system, but I'd probably buy the PS3 first, just my opinions

It'll be a good console

[ChodaBoy]

Copying PS2! cheapo
PS3 will pwn

[insertusernamehere]

http://xbox.gamespy.com/xbox/microsoft-xbox/594331p1.html

HELLS YES!


ps2 pwns xbox.

[GenuineImitation]

Xbox 2 may have good specs, but the question is can it play xbox one games? From what I read in EGM, the answer is no. Thats why the PS3 will be better among a list of other reasons like it being a more powerful system

[TsukasaZero]

Market analysis shows that if the Xenon does come out in 2005, it will get back the 30% market share that Sony has right now and get ontop with that in the new generation race.

Why would people buy it?

HINT:

Bungie doubled their staff in one week.

[Mr. Ron]

PS3 will be just as or greater. I just have a feeling SONY has got it's act together now with the new system.....

[StaticSynth]

Market analysis shows that if the Xenon does come out in 2005, it will get back the 30% market share that Sony has right now and get ontop with that in the new generation race.

Why would people buy it?

HINT:

Bungie doubled their staff in one week.

Actually, most people seem to agree that if Halo 3 isn't ready in time for the launch of the PS3, the XBOX 2 will get spanked by Sony. And Bungie's already busy developing another game alongside Halo 3 so odds of them releasing it by then are slim and even if they do make the deadline, the odds of it being good would be slim just because they probably won't have put enough time into it to make a great game. Halo 2 was in development for 3 years and didn't even end up nearly as good as they tried to make it seem.

Oh, and insiders in the videogame industry who have seen the demos of the PS3 and XBOX 2 all agree that the PS3 is considerably more powerful.

[dr._feelgood]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Efilnikufesin
It won't compare to PS3 and the new Xbox at all.


And you're basing that on what?

duh, he's psychic :rolleyes:

[Katana]

what'll the follow up the gaycube with? The queersphere?

rofl!

[Cybergasm]

Are you kidding, its gonna be like one of those cowboy movies where one cowboy (the XBOX2) comes to town and is like 'BANG BANG' killing everyone, and not capable of death. Then one faithful day as the sunsets, there will ride an a masked stranger on a black horse (the PS3) and will be like, "hey you." The cowboy will be like "psh... yeah?" the stranger will smile, the crow will caw, the sun will set, pistols will be drawn, and down will come the cowboy. The crowd will go wild for the masked stranger, who by now will be making his way to a new town while the theme from "The Good the Bad and the Ugly" plays in the background.


But, just as he leaves the cowboy will open one eye (Halo 3), but will get run by the masked stranger who decided to go the other way.

[Katana]

Nintendo should do well if it makes a really good-graphics sidescroller with some minigames with creativity that's on the scale of Mario 3. That game is an absolute trip. Who else can come up with jumping on a mushroom's head while dodging shark-faced bullets on a ship in the sky? That and the guy with a mushroom head. Toad. And then there's the red mushrooms that make you bigger, and the green ones to give you 1up, and the weird colored ones that kill you... so many mushrooms.

I see a pattern. Mushrooms + Japanese video game designer = trippy as hell but fun game that features mushrooms

[iliketoplaydrums10111]

Masked Stranger = GTA (City Name and/or Number)

[Cybergasm]

Masked Stranger = GTA (City Name and/or Number)
Let's make it the horse because technicly that is what tramples Halo 3 at the end.

[iliketoplaydrums10111]

I know?

[Let's Chop Cats!]

Ehh if I ever get one at all it won't be till it only costs like 150 bucks. I really regret buying an xbox. Wish I got a Gamecube.

[supra_speed]

Post this stuff in xbox 2 n ps3 thread instead of wasting more space

[Stoic]

I'm pretty sure I've read/heard somewhere that rockstar said they're done with the GTA games since they've done what they can with it but don't quote me on that one, I have the memory span of a goldfish.

Why are you guys always arguing about consoles? if you don't like a certain system who cares how powerfull it is or how bad it is compared to another console, does it really matter to you if A console sells more then B console?

now, as for the specs they seem cool but much like all new console systems it will be way over priced when it's released.

[supra_speed]

now, as for the specs they seem cool but much like all new console systems it will be way over priced when it's released.

Oh Hell yeah! :amaze:

[Lionheart1827]

Are you kidding, its gonna be like one of those cowboy movies where one cowboy (the XBOX2) comes to town and is like 'BANG BANG' killing everyone, and not capable of death. Then one faithful day as the sunsets, there will ride an a masked stranger on a black horse (the PS3) and will be like, "hey you." The cowboy will be like "psh... yeah?" the stranger will smile, the crow will caw, the sun will set, pistols will be drawn, and down will come the cowboy. The crowd will go wild for the masked stranger, who by now will be making his way to a new town while the theme from "The Good the Bad and the Ugly" plays in the background.


But, just as he leaves the cowboy will open one eye (Halo 3), but will get run by the masked stranger who decided to go the other way.

In the distance, two snipers(Revolution and next handheld) on the roof top take out both of them.

:thumb:

[Lionheart1827]

I'm pretty sure I've read/heard somewhere that rockstar said they're done with the GTA games since they've done what they can with it but don't quote me on that one, I have the memory span of a goldfish.

Nah your half way right. There not making any more GTA games for this generation of consoles. There taking a hard earned vacation(well alot of them), then are gonna work on a new GTA for the next generation.

No way in hell would they stop making the GTA franchise. As long as it sells like it still is, theres no way there stopping. :thumb:

[supra_speed]

In the distance, two snipers(Revolution and next handheld) on the roof top take out both of them.

:thumb:

LOL, funny, but not likely to happen :D.

[icebase]

Yea a camera just like the ps2..........pitty microsoft cant come up with good ideas for themselves...........pfft.........ps3 is set to be the main console...again....the xbox fans always have releyed on graphics and speed to have fun..........the only good storylines for the xbox was halo and halo 2 and halo 2 was tripe..............but fair enoughb sounds like its goin to be a good console............lets just hope they can get some good developers for it.................. :rolleyes:

just out of intrest is it a "whos dick is bigger contest now?" I think sony and microsoft are just goin to make the most expensive console ever and its goin to cost a bomb........... the new nintendo might be the way to go........... me ponders.......

[icebase]

Supposedly they've licensed a company that deals with gyroscopic technology. Not sure if they're going to use it with the Revolution, but if they do, you can bet it will involve the new controllers. :thumb:

They've been saying its going to revolutionize gaming so, we shall just have to wait till this years E3 in may. expect to see a lot of new info on soon to be the best game ever............Zelda. :thumb:


zelda sucks in my opinion and alot of others think the same to... it was just an unsuccesful attempt to copy the final fantisy series..............best game ever and im sure alot of people will agree will be halo3................... :D

[humph42]

This thread is so funny. Why do people have biases to certain consoles? I'm gonna wait until they come out to judge.

[Stoic]

Lion, that makes a lot more sense thanx for clearing that up for me.

Icebase, I agree with most of your points but a few are well..."Yea a camera just like the ps2..........pitty microsoft cant come up with good ideas for themselves" well going by that logic, Nintendo ripped off those touch screen arcade games and palm pilots (Shame on Nintendo).. and countless other companies that have improved on an idea (not saying the Xbox 2 camera will be better or anything) "the xbox fans always have releyed on graphics and speed to have fun" care to explain this a little more? but since we're generalizing....people who own a PS2 or GC have small penises (me being one of them on both accounts :upset: ) I'm not going to bother getting into the Story lines but I will agree that Halo 2's storyline was a disapointment, as for everything else I pretty much agree. sorry if I sound like a total douche.

[Jonny]

zelda sucks in my opinion and alot of others think the same to... it was just an unsuccesful attempt to copy the final fantisy series..............best game ever and im sure alot of people will agree will be halo3................... :D
Final Fantasy = RPG
Zelda = Action Adventure
Completely different.

Zelda 1= July 1987
FF 1= December 1987
So how can it copy a game which wasn't even out then?

You= Misinformed moron.

By your logic, I could say Halo 3 will suck cos it's just trying to copy Goldeneye, Perfect dark, Doom....
But at least that's comparing it to other games of the same genre. Unlike what you're doing.

[DRybes]

Market analysis shows that if the Xenon does come out in 2005, it will get back the 30% market share that Sony has right now and get ontop with that in the new generation race.

Why would people buy it?

HINT:

Bungie doubled their staff in one week.
Microsoft has a habit of not releasing things on time.

When was the new operating system supposed to come out? Sometime last year I think. then apple came out with a new OS and microsoft pushed back its release date a year and started redoing the entire system. then it happened again. If microsoft pulls the arms race thing against sony then you're not going to see this new system for at least two years after the first release date they speculate over.

[Rancid Dan]

Ice base is an IDIOT.

Zela doesn't suck in ANY way.

[Rancid Dan]

All that gobbledy gook doesn't mean anything to me.

[Lionheart1827]

You know what im probably gonna do?

buy them all, so i dont create racism towards others, but im worried about buying the next xbox, since i thought the original wasnt that good. it better have more stellar titles then halo, not to mention halo is onthe pc, and halo 2 will be out eventually so there goes its stellarty(is that a word?). :thumb: .

[Rancid Dan]

Sounds good.

I'll get the Xbox 2 and the revolution probably.

[Lionheart1827]

zelda sucks in my opinion and alot of others think the same to... it was just an unsuccesful attempt to copy the final fantisy series..............best game ever and im sure alot of people will agree will be halo3................... :D

AAAHAHHAHAHA

zelda came out BEFORE final fantasy.

FF came out in 1987 for NES ---> http://ff.fan-atic.net/

Zelda came out in 1985. ---> http://www.nameeman.4t.com/photo3.html

you learn something new every day.

plus theres more people that like zelda than hate it.

[sum1soiledMyBongos]

You know what im probably gonna do?

buy them all, so i dont create racism towards others, but im worried about buying the next xbox, since i thought the original wasnt that good. it better have more stellar titles then halo, not to mention halo is onthe pc, and halo 2 will be out eventually so there goes its stellarty(is that a word?). :thumb: .
**** that. I'm racist against a console whenever i feel like it.
Sadly, the ps2 and xbox are both black... so i hope they make it easier to decide this time.

[Jonny]

AAAHAHHAHAHA

zelda came out BEFORE final fantasy.

FF came out in 1987 for NES ---> http://ff.fan-atic.net/

Zelda came out in 1985. ---> http://www.nameeman.4t.com/photo3.html

you learn something new every day.

plus theres more people that like zelda than hate it.
I thought Zelda was '85- but Gamespot said it was '87. And I already made that point. :p

[Lionheart1827]

I thought Zelda was '85- but Gamespot said it was '87. And I already made that point. :p

yeah i know sorry.

i dont know i just did a quick yahoo search. :thumb:

[Lionheart1827]

**** that. I'm racist against a console whenever i feel like it.
Sadly, the ps2 and xbox are both black... so i hope they make it easier to decide this time.

well so is the GC, i have a black one. :thumb:

[Arucard]

It won't compare to PS3 and the new Xbox at all.

PS3 is the Fashioncore of consoles. I cant wait for the new Nintendo, and the new zelda game.

[sum1soiledMyBongos]

Traitor!

[Ganondorf]

Yeah, and Nintendo is the uber 1337 games people! :p

Nintendo is the best ;)

[Jonny]

Nintendo are the Punks of the gaming industry. Mario will have a mohawk in his next game. And Peach will be a goth.

[Incognito]

WOW OMG I MUST TYPE IN CAPS BECAUSE I WANT A NEW POWERFUL SYSTEM JUST TO PLAY SEQUELS TO GAMES I'VE ALREADY PLAYED ON OTHER PLATFORMS!!!!

I TOTALLY DON'T WANT ANY KIND OF NEW GAME, I WANT MY OLD GAME WITH BETTER GRAPHICS AND A FEW "NEW' FEAUTURES WHICH ACTUALLY MAKE THE GAME SEEM MORE LIKE AN EXPANSION THAN A SEQUEL!

Seriously though, new platforms are nice but, move on from your GTA's and Halo's, there will be other good new games.

[T'an-mo]

Nintendo is the best.

Sony suck

I guess xbox is adequte.

I'm saving up for the revolution I hope it's good.

[petepete2891]

The GC owned Ps2 and XBOX. Some people are just too concerned about graphics and they forget that the games are meant to be fun. I am a bit concerned about the A and B buttons going though.

And youre basing that on what super mario pmsl the ps2 and the xbox r quality the gamecube got wiped the floor with man

[Jonny]

And youre basing that on what super mario pmsl the ps2 and the xbox r quality the gamecube got wiped the floor with man
Translation?

[ZEROthirtythree]

The guys from Sony and Microsoft sure are creative. PS3 and X-Box2???

:lol:

I can't see these systems coming out for atleast another 2 years. The graphics for the current 3 systems are not even outdated yet.

[StaticSynth]

The guys from Sony and Microsoft sure are creative. PS3 and X-Box2???

:lol:

I can't see these systems coming out for atleast another 2 years. The graphics for the current 3 systems are not even outdated yet.

A pretty big rumor I've been hearing for a while is that the next XBOX is going to be called XBOX 360 because they don't want the name "XBOX 2" to seem inferior to the "Playstation 3". :lol: If this rumor is true then XBOX 360 is officialy the worst console name in history.

The PS3 and Revolution are being aimed for a early-mid 2006 release apparently. And Microsoft is probably going to try and rush the XBOX 360 ( :lol: ) out in time for the upcoming holidays.

[Cybergasm]

Well these systems sound like they're heading into the thousands range. Think about it, the last time I was checking out hardware a Raedeonx800 cost $500, and this new GPU is supposebly so much better than that, not to mention the NASA chips they got in there as well.

[ChodaBoy]

Lets not use the word racist, lets call it Consolist.

If prices get to high, both companies will have shot themselves in their e-foot. Nobody is going to pay +300, apart from millionaires or really sad people.

[Maroy]

Xbox2= Kick @$$
Halo3= Kick @$$

Xbox2+Halo3= One Great Kick @$$ Experience worth waitng and paying for.

[Jonny]

I love the way everyone assumes Halo 3 will be the best game ever, simply because they thought 1 & 2 were good.

[ChodaBoy]

Despite neither of them being good...

[Lionheart1827]

I love the way everyone assumes Halo 3 will be the best game ever, simply because they thought 1 & 2 were good.

Not only that, thats really the only game they can take to the bank too.

Take halo from xbox and what do you have? paperweight with some mediocre games.


not only that, halo is out on pc, so it defeats the purpose to me. :thumb:

[Lionheart1827]

A pretty big rumor I've been hearing for a while is that the next XBOX is going to be called XBOX 360 because they don't want the name "XBOX 2" to seem inferior to the "Playstation 3". :lol: If this rumor is true then XBOX 360 is officialy the worst console name in history.

The PS3 and Revolution are being aimed for a early-mid 2006 release apparently. And Microsoft is probably going to try and rush the XBOX 360 ( :lol: ) out in time for the upcoming holidays.

:lol: :lol:

i thought the name they were naming for was on the periodic table of elements?(xenon)

[Let's Chop Cats!]

There has been no official statement as to what it will be called. For all we know these could just be temp. project names.

[tsl_ste]

has anyone seen the screen shots of the new Star Fox game?

[Rancid Dan]

Yeah, it seems allright.

[metalhed-05]

When nintendo makes a new conole they change everything about it. The controllers, the game(disc). I think it would be fairly good though.




I think the controllers will stay the same

[metalhed-05]

has anyone seen the screen shots of the new Star Fox game?


that game totally sucks big donkey balls

[tsl_ste]

the game isn't out yet.

[talk show host]

Lylat (haha...i've completely forgotten how to spell that) Wars was awesome.

[incubliss]

i read today that X-box 2 or whatever it is going to be called, may be out in november.

[Arucard]

And youre basing that on what super mario pmsl the ps2 and the xbox r quality the gamecube got wiped the floor with man


Look at the post before. PS2 is the fashioncore of games consoles.

My point was proven by your slurring statement.

[T'an-mo]

Nintendo Aight.

[petepete2891]

Yeah but what was the last good game that was out on the gcube xbox and ps2
Who got all these cool games first?
GTA San Andreas
Metal Gear Solid Snake Eater
Midnight Club 3
Tekken 5
Killzone
Rainbow Six 4

Oh PS2 And Xbox haha i think ive proven my point

[Rancid Dan]

No you haven't.

Half of them suck.

Metroid Prime 2 ?
Resident Evil 4 ?
Paper Mario 2 ?
Tales of Symphonia ?

[Jonny]

No you haven't.

Half of them suck.

Metroid Prime 2 ?
Resident Evil 4 ?
Paper Mario 2 ?
Tales of Symphonia ?
I was gonna say that. Thing is, most people who made the same argument as him are so incredibly biased that no amount of arguing will change their minds.

I bet he will come back with a post like 'Those games are crap' or 'Nintendo is for kids' or some rubbish argument like that.

[thedeadwalk!]

With no online plans, and backward compatibility still up in the air, Nintendo's got some work to do.

[Jonny]

With no online plans, and backward compatibility still up in the air, Nintendo's got some work to do.
I believe there are online plans for revolution. As for back compatibility, it probably depends on what discs they will use.

[thedeadwalk!]

I believe there are online plans for revolution. As for back compatibility, it probably depends on what discs they will use.
In last month's issue of Electronic Gaming Monthly, they had a quote from one of the execs. who said "people don't want to play online."

I don't know.

[Jonny]

In last month's issue of Electronic Gaming Monthly, they had a quote from one of the execs. who said "people don't want to play online."

I don't know.
I want online. And I'm people.

[Rancid Dan]

I couldn't care less about backwards compatability, i don't know why anyone would ?

[thedeadwalk!]

It beats switching between systems everytime.

[Jonny]

I couldn't care less about backwards compatability, i don't know why anyone would ?
It's another of those unnecessary features they stick into the console's specs- to make people think WOW! I have to get this!

Like a DVD player or a hard drive.

[Rancid Dan]

Yeah, if i wanted to play a gamecube game when i have a Revolution then i would just play my gamecube ?

Just as i do when i want to play my N64.

Oh no, what an inconveniece.

[Jonny]

If you want to play older games, you can get second hand consoles off ebay real cheap. A couple years ago I got a NES with 10 games for £10. You could probably get a second hand 'cube for £20, which is better than having them push up the price of consoles just to add backwards compatiblity.

[Rancid Dan]

But unfortunatley features such as Backwards compatability sell consoles.

[Jonny]

True. I'm not bothered about it though.

[Rancid Dan]

Yes, but things like that sell PS2's.

I couldn't care less for add-ons.

I but a console for games.

[Jonny]

Same here. That's why I prefer Nintendo.

[StaticSynth]

Yeah, if i wanted to play a gamecube game when i have a Revolution then i would just play my gamecube ?

Just as i do when i want to play my N64.

Oh no, what an inconveniece.

Backwards compatibility just makes things easier for gamers. they don't have to dust off their old consoles in order to play older games. Backwards compatibility is a good thing, albeit not a crucial aspect of a console.

[Jonny]

Backwards compatibility just makes things easier for gamers. they don't have to dust off their old consoles in order to play older games. Backwards compatibility is a good thing, albeit not a crucial aspect of a console.
I'd rather take the time to unplug one console and plug in the other than have to pay more just to save a few minutes.

Plus, as the Zelda master quest disc on Gamecube shows- backwards compatability can lead to problems with button configuration.
(You have a C-stick instead of C-buttons. It just doesn't feel as good to me)

[Rancid Dan]

Yeah, that annoys me.

I bet Sony will release the same, crappy controller again.

[StaticSynth]

I'd rather take the time to unplug one console and plug in the other than have to pay more just to save a few minutes.

Plus, as the Zelda master quest disc on Gamecube shows- backwards compatability can lead to problems with button configuration.
(You have a C-stick instead of C-buttons. It just doesn't feel as good to me)

True, but Sony didn't have to worry about the PS2 controller because it is the same layout as the PS1's controller.

[StaticSynth]

Yay, new Revolution news:

Nintendo Revolution To Be Backwards Compatible
Also revealed: Free DS online service and new Zelda details
by Che Chou
03/10/2005
Nintendo president Satoru Iwata kicked off his keynote speech this morning to much fanfare at the 2005 Game Developer Conference in San Francisco this morning. We'll have full details and analysis of the event soon, but in the meantime, here's the official press release straight from the source:

Iwata, a veteran video game designer and player himself, made several major announcements during his Game Developers Conference keynote speech, "The Heart of the Gamer," including such highlights as:

* Nintendo's next game console, code-named "Revolution," is proceeding on schedule and will include both backward compatibility and Wi-Fi features.

* Nintendo soon will offer a free Wi-Fi connection service to Nintendo DS owners.

* Iwata demonstrated several new software titles using the innovative features of the Nintendo DS, including voice recognition, touch-screen control and wireless connectivity.

* Iwata unveiled new images from the highly anticipated Legend of Zelda adventure coming this year for Nintendo GameCube.

"This is Nintendo's plan: make our existing game world better," Iwata said. "For us, this is a passion. This is a mission of adventure."

Revolution: Iwata announced that Revolution will feature built-in Wi-Fi protocols, which will allow users around the world to connect with one another wirelessly. Revolution???s technological heart, a processing chip developed with IBM and code-named "Broadway," and a graphics chip set from ATI code-named "Hollywood," are being designed to deliver game experiences not possible to date.

"We're excited to be developing the graphics chip set for Revolution, which continues our longstanding relationship with Nintendo," says Dave Orton, ATI Technologies Inc.'s president and chief executive officer. "As the leading graphics provider, ATI is committed to delivering exceptional visual performance that enables consumers to interact with new and visually compelling digital worlds. ATI is proud to support Nintendo???s innovative contributions to gaming."

Nintendo DS: Iwata announced that the Wi-Fi protocol for Nintendo DS will provide users with a link to other players across the country or around the world. Once the service begins later this year, Nintendo DS users will be able to connect to the service wirelessly at Wi-Fi hot spots, whether they???re at home, in a hotel or at a coffee shop. As one of several Wi-Fi games, Nintendo???s in-house development team is creating a new Animal Crossing game for global Wi-Fi play.

On the keynote stage, Iwata also took part in a spontaneous eight-player wireless contest of Mario Kart DS to demonstrate the local area network capabilities of Nintendo DS. He added that shipments of the DS game system have now surpassed 4 million units to North America and Japan in the 16 weeks since launch. With the system set to debut in thousands of stores across Europe within hours of his address, that number will approach 6 million units shipped by the end of March.

DS software: The speech featured a live demonstration of two Nintendo DS software titles that Iwata said represented types of entertainment that go beyond the traditionally accepted definitions of "video games." One, Nintendogs, asks owners to nurture and interact with a variety of breeds of digital puppies. Puppy owners can issue voice commands, play games and train their puppies while developing real emotional bonds with them. Nintendogs is set to launch later this year in North America. The second title, Electroplankton, offers an otherworldly array of sights and sounds aimed to soothe or stimulate players with the innovative use of both the touch screen and voice interaction. "This is designed to produce harmony, not adrenaline," Iwata said.

He also wowed the crowd by showing previously unreleased footage of the stunning Legend of Zelda adventure for Nintendo GameCube. The game will launch later this year, and is expected to be the most sought-after game of 2005 on any console.


http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3138770

You can see the new Zelda trailer here:

http://www.gamespot.com/gamecube/action/thelegendofzelda/index.html?q=zelda

[Jonny]

Yay, new Revolution news:



http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3138770

You can see the new Zelda trailer here:

http://www.gamespot.com/gamecube/action/thelegendofzelda/index.html?q=zelda
Awesome! Zelda looks amazing. Imaginary +rep for showing us that.

[thedeadwalk!]

Another awesome thing with the new Zelda is if you preorder it, instead of crappy things like a shirt, you'll get a full copy of Wind Waker with the look of the new game. So it would be like people getting Half-Life Source with their copy of Half-Life 2. That's pretty cool.

[StaticSynth]

Another awesome thing with the new Zelda is if you preorder it, instead of crappy things like a shirt, you'll get a full copy of Wind Waker with the look of the new game. So it would be like people getting Half-Life Source with their copy of Half-Life 2. That's pretty cool.

Where did you hear that? Do you have a link?

[Lionheart1827]

Where did you hear that? Do you have a link?

its not true, hes just spouting BS.

god the game doesnt even have a release date yet. :thumb:

[Jonny]

Where did you hear that? Do you have a link
Beautiful wordplay there. :wave:

[Lionheart1827]

Well since this topic is about Nintendo's next generation system, I'll put this link in(as I did in my zelda+revolution topic).

http://cube.ign.com/articles/594/594935p1.html

Revolution will be backwards compatible with the GCN and it will be Wi-Fi out of the box. :thumb:

[Let's Chop Cats!]

Backwards compatability is awesome. I'm thinking I might get this then buy old Gamecube games that I want even though I never bought a Gamecube.

[thedeadwalk!]

its not true, hes just spouting BS.

god the game doesnt even have a release date yet. :thumb:
Article (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v476/thedeadwalk/scan0001.jpg)
Picture (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v476/thedeadwalk/scan.jpg)

To be fair, EGM does an April fool's joke in their April's issue; maybe.

[Lionheart1827]

Article (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v476/thedeadwalk/scan0001.jpg)
Picture (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v476/thedeadwalk/scan.jpg)

To be fair, EGM does an April fool's joke in their April's issue; maybe.

it is fake, that is an april fools joke, its from there april issue.

:thumb:

[thedeadwalk!]

They get me every time. :upset:

[tsl_ste]

With no online plans, and backward compatibility still up in the air, Nintendo's got some work to do.
there are online plans.
they have bought in to a company, i'm not sure which, if i find out on the net later i will edit this post.

but, they are making the DS online, sort of. if you plug it to the net your 100ft game connection will go over 55 miles.

revolution will be online, which will get more outside parties creating games, which will get them more money.

[icebase]

Lion, that makes a lot more sense thanx for clearing that up for me.

Icebase, I agree with most of your points but a few are well..."Yea a camera just like the ps2..........pitty microsoft cant come up with good ideas for themselves" well going by that logic, Nintendo ripped off those touch screen arcade games and palm pilots (Shame on Nintendo).. and countless other companies that have improved on an idea (not saying the Xbox 2 camera will be better or anything) "the xbox fans always have releyed on graphics and speed to have fun" care to explain this a little more? but since we're generalizing....people who own a PS2 or GC have small penises (me being one of them on both accounts :upset: ) I'm not going to bother getting into the Story lines but I will agree that Halo 2's storyline was a disapointment, as for everything else I pretty much agree. sorry if I sound like a total douche.


But x box fans have had to rely on graphics and speed for games............never good storylines...well in some cases there have been very good storylines but only one or twice.....

[Mr. Ron]

Xbox2= Kick @$$
Halo3= Kick @$$

Xbox2+Halo3= One Great Kick @$$ Experience worth waitng and paying for.

Yeah if you like flashy graphics and no story line.

[ToRidTheDisease]

Not really. Graphics, gameplay, and story are all better on XBOX games. Good story doesn't really mean much to me anyway though.

[StaticSynth]

Xbox2= Kick @$$
Halo3= Kick @$$

Xbox2+Halo3= One Great Kick @$$ Experience worth waitng and paying for.

If you don't like good videogames...

[StaticSynth]

Beautiful wordplay there. :wave:

lol, I'm surprised anybody picked up on that.

[Retrovertigo]

All that gobbledy gook doesn't mean anything to me.

Truth, er, nor me.

Snes > any of these uber graphic megapixel systems.

[burning star IV]

I'm still sticking with XBox 2 over PS3.

[superdigg]

http://www.gamespy.com/articles/595/595975p1.html?fromint=1

oh MAN. oh MAN! this is really freaking COOL!
not going to summarize, it's in your best interests to read the article, respond here. i, for one, think this is a freaking great idea, save for the ability of really lame people to continuously make penis creatures. ok, and do you see where this is going? sentient computer programs? Skynet, anybody? discuss! and be amazed!

[Pop music sucks]

Whoa. That is a major step in game production. Sounds pretty cool too.

The idea reminded me of a summary of the movie "Nirvana". Which basically was about a main character in a game gaining sentience and using that to try and "get out" of the game itself.

[angry armadillo]

gamespy is blocked here at college, anyone care to summise the link?

[humph42]

To much reading, too little time. Summarise please.

[Ramsey]

Wow. That is awesome.

[I'm Going to pasalaqua]

thats pretty cool

[superdigg]

alright, i'll give a very basic summation, if anyone cares to add to it, feel free to do so! Will Wright, game designer (the Sims guy) has found a way to address the issue of how much work there could be for developers making games for next gen platforms and computers. instead of hiring armies of designers and artists, wright has developed a system where players design the models themselves in a very intuitive fashion that can produce amazing results. alright, this isn't going too well, there's waaay more to explain.. i'd REALLY recommend reading the thing. or someone with the time could copy+paste the really important parts? if this thread lasts til tomorrow i'll do it myself, i'm too busy today.

adding a bit more:
there are no premade game animations, the game figures out how to make the player-made models move, and gives them what is as close to free will as computers will probably have. the creatures can use 'logic' to handle objects that they've never seen before, or been programmed to use. this is probably as close to sentience as computer programs will ever have. in his demonstration, will wright showed a scenario where he started with a little blob character, and after collecting a certain amount of orb things in the brown goo he was suspended in, earned the ability to lay an egg. the egg allowed the player to create a new creature, shaping it like clay. i don't know exactly how the interface worked because there arent any screenshots or anything, but the way it sounds, the creatures are COMPLETELY physically customizable. i'm talking stretching, adding limbs, orifices, abilities. oh man. it boggles the mind. umm ok, maybe i'll add more to the summary when i feel like it.

[icebase]

ok i stoped reading it when it first mentions the sim's but i started again.........ok it looks like it will be fun but it kind of takes the whole fun of a game out of it when you know what happens. Thats what keeps the gamer intrested in a game..........right?

[Bartender]

No..it's not that the player literally makes the game up, but the creature - the point is that the creature you're creating (in Spore) is fully customisable, and not in a wrestling game/San Andreas kind of way; the game's engine doesn't have a finite list of mechanics programmed into it, but a basic set of instructions and an intuitive program, so that however you customise your creature, the game figures out how it would move (with three legs, all different lengths, for example) when it walks and then animates it itself as you go along. Reading the article is the best way to really get what he means, though.

[Bartender]

****. There's just so much of it. Very un-Wright to explain everything in such detail, and I'm excited now.

[superdigg]

icebase, you ignorant slut. yeah, bartender already explained it to you, we're not LITERALLY writing the story or making up the game, think of it as a TRUE sandbox-gameplay app. man, this, is probably going to rock.

[icebase]

Oh. I get it now. Yea that would be cool. If only more games would let you make the main character yourself............... :upset:

Hmm you have been here longer than me. Ok i'll take that remark back and im sorry.

[superdigg]

seriously, what's he doing explaining EVERYTHING now? i can't bloody wait for it! hmm maybe there's even MORE. lol i REALLY hope its not just some elaborate b*stard prank. should have been some screenshots!

[superdigg]

icebase, i dunno, some games are meant to be story based. games like the MG(S) series wouldn't have been as good (imo) if we had to make the characters ourselves. defining appearance is one thing (GTA:SA), but MAKING a character is a whole new thing.

seems like Spore is going to be more gameplay based than story. well, duh.

[Bartender]

lol i REALLY hope its not just some elaborate b*stard prank.

Yes, that would suck on a quite tremendous level.

[icebase]

icebase, i dunno, some games are meant to be story based. games like the MG(S) series wouldn't have been as good (imo) if we had to make the characters ourselves. defining appearance is one thing (GTA:SA), but MAKING a character is a whole new thing.

seems like Spore is going to be more gameplay based than story. well, duh.


This game could lead to a very large following. Hmmm it would be cool to be able to make things that you use and interact with as well......... :eek:

[Altec Lansing, is some company]

:\ I guess I'm the only pessimist for this.

Wouldn't figuring out all these physics take even longer? Wouldn't it be annoying to make a new character if trying this out at a friends house, then getting it for yourself?

If it really works out, it has a big potential. Btw, I just read the summaries.

[thedeadwalk!]

ok i stoped reading it when it first mentions the sim's but i started again.........ok it looks like it will be fun but it kind of takes the whole fun of a game out of it when you know what happens. Thats what keeps the gamer intrested in a game..........right?
The article's not so much about the game as what Wright is proposing how we can make games in the future in place of hordes of animaters, modelers, and other workers.

[Esp Griffyn]

thats pretty cool, but it will likly be at least 8 years or so until we see a fully functional version of that program implemented properly in games.

[Rancid Dan]

I'll read it later.

[Pastorius]

This sounds awesome. Online capabilities would be fantastic.

Imagine battling against an entire civilisation of differently evolved creatures! You could create an entire army of fighting-orientated creatures with 20 arms all with a weapon each! Or a super-intelligent race of engineering geniuses!

[StaticSynth]

thats pretty cool, but it will likly be at least 8 years or so until we see a fully functional version of that program implemented properly in games.

Somehow I seriously doubt Spore is going to be released in 8 years. Sounds like you're blindly pulling that number from your ***.

[StaticSynth]

This sounds awesome. Online capabilities would be fantastic.

Imagine battling against an entire civilisation of differently evolved creatures! You could create an entire army of fighting-orientated creatures with 20 arms all with a weapon each! Or a super-intelligent race of engineering geniuses!

Or you could just make a race of Ultra-Godzillas and pwn the entire universe. :thumb:

[Der Übermensch]

fucing insane!

[Altec Lansing, is some company]

Is this supposed to be an engine put into different games or a game in itself?

[Bartender]

Both, I think. I get the impression Spore (or whatever it is eventually called) will be released as a game in itself, but the key idea of the game - the idea of an intuitive game engine which, rather than being exhaustively animated and programmed with a finite set of mechanics for a finite list of possibilities, basically figures itself out as it goes along depending on what the player customises the game world to be - seems like it's intended for use in other games. Hence the idea of it changing the way we look at (some) gaming.

[jimiraymorrison]

Daaaaaaaaaaaaaayum

[Altec Lansing, is some company]

I'm all for this if they can still keep good stories and characters in this somehow.

[Cybergasm]

That sounds amazing!

[2nd Impact]

I can't wait for my race to develope organized religion! I'm soo0 omnipotent.

[Bartender]

I'm all for this if they can still keep good stories and characters in this somehow.

I think in Spore, the idea is to more or less sacrifice a storyline in place of unprecedented gamer interaction, but I suppose if similar ideas and engines were to be applied to other games in the future, it could work to some degree.

There'll always be variation, though; a world where only games of a Spore-style existed would be just as boring as where only storyline-oriented games existed.

[buried]

That looks amazing.

Honestly, if Spore becomes a game, I would do whatever I could to buy it.

[StaticSynth]

That looks amazing.

Honestly, if Spore becomes a game, I would do whatever I could to buy it.

It is a game that will be released, and yes it will be awesome. :thumb:

[iliketoplaydrums10111]

This looks awesome

[EonBlueApcolyps]

that is going to be amazing

[superdigg]

ahh yes, good responses to a thread of mine. gives me a warm fuzzy feeling. anyway, yeah, i really hope they don't start making ALL games like this. what i don't understand is how they plan to implement the design in games that ARENT so free-form. how would this work in a story based FPS or RPG? it wouldnt. this design would only really work for a handful of games, and i suppose thats a good thing, keeps it unique.

[Damrod]

Hm, so basically the character design gets 'open source' in a way... What I did not really get and understand:

Do you create a character from given body parts and clothes etc. or do you create them yourself as well? If the latter is the case, I don't think it would work good with current consoles and the input devices. It would mean, for better creating tools, consoles would get much more 'PC like' in a way regarding input devices.

But basically, I think it's a good idea. :)

[Rancid Dan]

XBOX 2 SCREENS (http://gamesradar.msn.co.uk/news/default.asp?pagetypeid=2&articleid=34906&subsectionid=1586)

Take a look.

What detail ! :thumb:

[Trooper]

Looks nice just a shame I don't really like the X Box games.

[Captain Jack Sparrow]

Looks good. I won't be buying an X-Box 2 for about a year after it comes out though. No way in hell can I pay for a brand new system. Especially one from Microsoft.

[Otherside]

And especially not for one game.

[pixiesfanyo]

Mehr. Still looks like a PC.

[Untitled]

Ill proberly get one around the time it comes out, it looks great of those shots.

[JACKROXYOU]

nice find :thumb: fake rep++

[Ramsey]

Wow....those look very good. Especially the bump mapping on the trees.

[StaticSynth]

That's basically what I've been expecting next-gen games to look like on an HDTV.

[Drumma]

Cool. Im definitely getting one of those when they come out

[Let's Chop Cats!]

Unreal 3 engine ehh? Can't wait to see that on a pc.

[KappaKid17]

Sadly, PC > Xbox , even though I love my Xbox.

[benbenben]

cool

[ihatemybass]

i thought they would look better..... :(

[burning star IV]

Those are some pretty good graphics. I'll probably get it when it comes out.

[foxdie44]

Honestly X-box is going to be the same thing with better graphics, how boring.

[Cybergasm]

That was really nice.

[Turkish]

Honestly X-box is going to be the same thing with better graphics, how boring.


kinda unfair to say. Microsoft made it into the console market for the first time with the X-Box. None of the game developers even wanted to take a chance with it because they thought it was going to be another Dreamcast. Now they've seen the success of the X-box and I bet a lot of developers are going to take the time to make some games for it.

[3074326]

Definitely good for a console.

[FunkMetalBass]

The only bad thing about Xbox is that they came too late in the game. Sony had already infiltrated the market and basically bought (not technically, but figuratively) all game developers.

[supra_speed]

Impressive.

[Jon]

Sweeet