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bwnstl
04-16-2007, 05:05 PM
Stop trolling the goddamn forum for NIN when you know they have a CD coming out this week that has a lot of mystery about it if you don't want it ****ing ruined, jesus christ.

Kage
04-16-2007, 05:06 PM
bwnstl calm down man, what the ****.

reptile
04-16-2007, 05:08 PM
Stop trolling the goddamn forum for NIN when you know they have a CD coming out this week that has a lot of mystery about it if you don't want it ****ing ruined, jesus christ.

Woah, calm down there man there's no need to use that kind of language.

bwnstl
04-16-2007, 07:34 PM
bwnstl calm down man, what the ****.

I'm sorry, just sometimes it seems like all you do is bitch about stuff, and if you were serious about him "ruining" the thing with the disc, then seriously, you don't expect to find out in this thread what happens? It just seems completely illogical to me.

Syncratic
04-16-2007, 09:44 PM
My Year Zero review is UP!

magicbus
04-16-2007, 09:49 PM
Wait I don't get the disc color thing. It changes when you rip it to your computer?

Killtacular
04-17-2007, 12:08 AM
Heat.

Polyamarous
04-17-2007, 03:26 AM
Oui.

Polyamarous
04-17-2007, 03:27 AM
Thanks for ruining it god damn it.

Well we knew it changed colour anyway, I don't see why me giving away the colours is 'ruining it'.

Zap'Em
04-17-2007, 03:53 AM
why does it do that

DrumIntoTheNight
04-17-2007, 05:39 AM
Thermochrome coating.

whatever that is

repcak
04-17-2007, 07:10 AM
maybe i should get it... i only heard/read good critics about this album... Trent Reznor is back in his good old days?! :eek:

Dr. Jake Destructo
04-17-2007, 10:34 AM
No he moved forward.

Duh.

Kage
04-17-2007, 01:26 PM
I'm going to get it when I get out of school today.


Normally I'm out by now but it's a weird schedule this week. X(

bebubly
04-17-2007, 02:10 PM
i really really want this album but i just bought fear of a blank planet so i can't afford it :(

Zap'Em
04-17-2007, 02:21 PM
i can send it to u bea

bebubly
04-17-2007, 02:22 PM
really?? if you could that would be ace. i will buy it once i get paid, but i would love to listen to it before then because it seems ages off.

Zap'Em
04-17-2007, 02:23 PM
how do i do it i have high speed internetz and i already downloaded it so its right here

Dead Star
04-17-2007, 02:23 PM
Yay, NIN are supporting the Foo Fighters near me in August.

/buys tickets

bebubly
04-17-2007, 02:26 PM
omg whoa, where do you live dead star??

www.sendspace.com works for uploading, then you just post the link :)

Zap'Em
04-17-2007, 02:26 PM
and im only gonna send it because i think ur extremly cute

Dead Star
04-17-2007, 02:26 PM
omg whoa, where do you live dead star??

www.sendspace.com works for uploading, then you just post the link :)

Near Glasgow, but they're playing in Edinburgh at T on the Fringe.

Should be worth it tbh.

Voyage34
04-17-2007, 02:29 PM
:eek: i forgot this was out now

/orders

bebubly
04-17-2007, 02:31 PM
and im only gonna send it because i think ur extremly cute

haha, thank you i guess :p

bebubly
04-17-2007, 02:32 PM
Near Glasgow, but they're playing in Edinburgh at T on the Fringe.

Should be worth it tbh.

nice one :)

i have seen the foos twice before and nin once, but they are both bands that i would love to see again if i could afford it. no chance that i am playing for live earth though, 55 quid?!? wtf.

Dead Star
04-17-2007, 02:35 PM
nice one :)

i have seen the foos twice before and nin once, but they are both bands that i would love to see again if i could afford it. no chance that i am playing for live earth though, 55 quid?!? wtf.

lol live earth

these tickets are only £35 tbh bit steep, but its in a stadium.

I've seen the foos already though at Hyde Park, first time I'm seeing NIN though.

bebubly
04-17-2007, 02:38 PM
i was at the hyde park gig too!! :eek:

35 isn't bad considering it will be a bunch of bands and two of them you definitely want to see :)

when i saw nin i wasn't overly impressed for two reasons: 1) i went with someone who was crap to go to gigs with and 2) SO MANY GOTHS. if i saw them again though i think i would enjoy it a hell of a lot more.

Clunge
04-17-2007, 02:53 PM
I'm so tempted to go to that TOTF gig, I've seen the Foos twice and I'm still pissed off about that joke of a show they put on at Hyde Park. Their biggest ever show, and how many songs do we get? - 15, and two of those weren't even Foos songs.

But yes, I'd be going mainly for NIN really.

bebubly
04-17-2007, 03:03 PM
i thought hyde park was awesome.

Zap'Em
04-17-2007, 03:39 PM
dammit i have been trying to send it for an hour but it wont let me :(

bebubly
04-17-2007, 03:50 PM
awww damn!! :( is it zipped?? rep and thanks for trying :)

Voyage34
04-17-2007, 04:00 PM
beaaaa

it's on the latest r&m upload issue, i'll just forward that to you :)

Zap'Em
04-17-2007, 04:00 PM
do i have to put it in a zip file i want to send it to u so bad u deserve it more than me

bebubly
04-17-2007, 04:07 PM
ok calm down zap :confused:

it has to be zipped, but nvm if chris is going to forward me it. thanks anyway :)

Zap'Em
04-17-2007, 04:09 PM
your welcome

sorry i was no help at all though :(


just a waste of rep but thank you for repping me some mean guy neg'd me and left a mean message

Voyage34
04-17-2007, 04:16 PM
it has been forwarded. well i did it like 10 mins ago but w/e

Kage
04-17-2007, 04:28 PM
Got the album.

bebubly
04-17-2007, 04:34 PM
forwarded to where?? i'm not sure i can access my emails but i shall try in case it is there.

bebubly
04-17-2007, 04:35 PM
it doesn't work :( can you rep me the link pretty plz?? or myspace or something??

Zap'Em
04-17-2007, 04:36 PM
someone please send bea the new album

Kage
04-17-2007, 08:49 PM
So what's the consensus on this thing?

niobium
04-17-2007, 09:34 PM
Do not want.

Seriously, it's terrible.

Kage
04-17-2007, 09:38 PM
You don't like it?

misunderstood
04-17-2007, 10:04 PM
I like the new album. I think I need to give it a few more listens though 'cause I haven't able to really get into each and every song. The concept itself, I think, is awesome though. I still feel like it sometimes incorporates elements of some past releases. I like it ..though I don't think (as of now) that it can ever actually become my favorite NIN release.

Kage
04-17-2007, 10:08 PM
New album's great even though most songs follow the same formula.

niobium
04-17-2007, 10:41 PM
New album's great even though most songs follow the same formula.

One crappy formula. That's my reason.

I'd rather listen to With Teeth, honestly.

misunderstood
04-17-2007, 11:48 PM
http://www.freerebelart.net/

I went to this page to see what the big deal was. I think it's somewhere in the Year Zero booklet..and they have this huge thread over at ETS about it. Anyway, it asks for a name and your phone number. Put it in and you'll get a call within the next minute. Heh, I kinda freaked out at first but it's really no big deal. Kinda weird though...I actually put in my roomie's numbers and scared the hell out of them for a bit. The page will actually tell you whether they answer or not. If they do, you'll be redirected to another page.

Anyway, under name you can just put "password is resistance"....that'll be the password you give when you're asked for it. *sigh* Wonder what else will come out of this. I'm not even going to try going back to ETS.

Killtacular
04-17-2007, 11:59 PM
[with teeth] is pure poop, honestly.

I like Year Zero a thousand times more already.

Kage
04-18-2007, 12:03 AM
http://www.freerebelart.net/

I went to this page to see what the big deal was. I think it's somewhere in the Year Zero booklet..and they have this huge thread over at ETS about it. Anyway, it asks for a name and your phone number. Put it in and you'll get a call within the next minute. Heh, I kinda freaked out at first but it's really no big deal. Kinda weird though...I actually put in my roomie's numbers and scared the hell out of them for a bit. The page will actually tell you whether they answer or not. If they do, you'll be redirected to another page.

Anyway, under name you can just put "password is resistance"....that'll be the password you give when you're asked for it. *sigh* Wonder what else will come out of this. I'm not even going to try going back to ETS.
Dude that's ****ing awesome. I'm really creeped out by this concept to be completely honest.

And I just ****ing scared my friends with that phone number.

misunderstood
04-18-2007, 12:17 AM
^Yeah, this whole concept is very creepy, actually. I keep telling myself that it's fake, though..and that this can never happen...at least not during my lifetime. Heh, I have to find a way to sleep at night. :p
"17% will be listed as dead" ...:confused:
One of my friends answered the call and ran out of his room practically screaming. Hehe, it was funny to say the least.

Kage
04-18-2007, 12:19 AM
The way Trent has set it up with the websites and phone numbers is very realistic to me. And the resistance chats and the wiretapping...that's not at all improbable. This concept could have bombed but it's been pulled off really well.

misunderstood
04-18-2007, 12:25 AM
Yeah, no kidding. I don't think just anyone could have pulled this whole thing off without failing miserably. And all of this just makes Year Zero even better for me.

Kage
04-18-2007, 12:26 AM
Agreed 100% I've been bantering with some of my friends about this and it's very exciting. We're really getting into it, calling the phone numbers and such. It's just a really cool idea that has never been done before, at least not to this extent. And it just makes me want to listen to the album over and over.

Either a brilliant marketing technique or a new art form. Or both.

misunderstood
04-18-2007, 12:36 AM
According to Reznor, it's a new art form, but I'm more than positive he also figured it would be a good marketing technique. I mean, I had never heard of any band leaving USB drives in bathroom stalls with a bunch of songs from an upcoming album...that right there was awesome, heh.
By the way, have you tried calling that 866 number back? I think it's the same number that is on the back of the CD case. I wonder if they'll answer.


NP: The Great Destroyer

Dr. Jake Destructo
04-18-2007, 12:40 AM
20 years from now, this album will be a centerpiece to intoductory sociology courses. Mark my words. Trent is a ****ing genius.

misunderstood
04-18-2007, 12:49 AM
^That and American Dilemmas or Political Issues in America..Dammit, I'll have to come back to school just to study that.:p

Kage
04-18-2007, 12:52 AM
According to Reznor, it's a new art form, but I'm more than positive he also figured it would be a good marketing technique. I mean, I had never heard of any band leaving USB drives in bathroom stalls with a bunch of songs from an upcoming album...that right there was awesome, heh.
By the way, have you tried calling that 866 number back? I think it's the same number that is on the back of the CD case. I wonder if they'll answer.


NP: The Great Destroyer
Yep, the 866 number is the same as on the back of the CD case. At first I thought that was a real thing from the government. :p

I guess the gov't was trying to trick rebel resistance members into giving themselves up with that website.

I'm a little paranoid now. o_O

magicbus
04-18-2007, 12:17 PM
Is there something I can read up on the concept and get an idea of the whole thing? You guys are making it sound really interesting.

repcak
04-18-2007, 01:07 PM
i agree with magicbus... i wish i could phone those numbers, but i don't have that much money to phone to the USA.

what are those calls? what are they saying... tell me :)

Polyamarous
04-18-2007, 01:09 PM
This album si ace, but there was a stupid amount of hype with all these silly links and websites and leaks, and it isn't as good as I though it was going to be.

Porklips
04-18-2007, 02:48 PM
Is it just me or does the Great Destroyer make your bowels loosen?

misunderstood
04-18-2007, 03:23 PM
http://www.ninwiki.com/Main_Page

Well, I don't know if this will really help you understand everything that's been going on. It's just too much stuff..but look around and see what you find. It's all summarized on there.

bwnstl
04-18-2007, 04:42 PM
Is it just me or does the Great Destroyer make your bowels loosen?

I agree. But in a good way, right?

niobium
04-18-2007, 06:16 PM
I really love the art/marketing thing Trent is doing. Totally unprecedented. It's just a shame he doesn't have the music to back it up.

magicbus
04-18-2007, 06:43 PM
I called the phone number, very cool. I also did some reading up on the wiki. This whole thing is pretty nuts.

Kage
04-18-2007, 06:47 PM
This album si ace, but there was a stupid amount of hype with all these silly links and websites and leaks, and it isn't as good as I though it was going to be.

The links and websites aren't silly, it's really cool, and if you'd just suspend your tough guy, not-impressed image for a second maybe you could enjoy what's going on rather than playing Mr. Unimpressed.

Syncratic
04-18-2007, 06:57 PM
If you guys haven't heard, the ARG (alternate-reality game) regarding the album is supposed to go on for another 18 months....I'm excited, frankly.

Kage
04-18-2007, 07:05 PM
If you guys haven't heard, the ARG (alternate-reality game) regarding the album is supposed to go on for another 18 months....I'm excited, frankly.

123 to this. Do you know if it's supposed to all culminate in Year Zero part 2 or is that just one step along the way?

Syncratic
04-18-2007, 07:31 PM
Nothing has been confirmed that the next album WILL be 'Year Zero 2,' so to speak...I hope it will be.

And if it is, then yes.

niobium
04-18-2007, 07:53 PM
Year One?

Kage
04-18-2007, 08:14 PM
Year Zero part two has been confirmed though.

Syncratic
04-18-2007, 08:33 PM
Really? I wasn't sure...I hope they don't call it "Year Zero Part 2"...even "Year One" wouldn't be too bad.

Huber
04-18-2007, 09:03 PM
I just got the album. Pretty rad. I like it much better than With Teeth. I tried that freerebelalert thing on a bunch of people but the only one who answered knew about it. :(

Dr. Jake Destructo
04-18-2007, 09:53 PM
The Good Soldier is such a friggen amazing song, I loooove it.

Kage
04-18-2007, 09:55 PM
I agree. My favorites include but are not limited to

The Vessel
My Violent Heart
The Greater Good

niobium
04-18-2007, 11:22 PM
The Vessel was decent, I'll admit that. I can't say the same for a lot of the tracks though.

Huber
04-18-2007, 11:23 PM
After the second listen I can say that the entire latter half of the album makes it a win.

Kage
04-18-2007, 11:27 PM
It gets better with each listen.

philly96
04-18-2007, 11:34 PM
Yeah, the second listen is slightly better the first. I actually like Survivalism the most so far. The album on a whole is very noisey.

Huber
04-18-2007, 11:37 PM
I can't get enough of the last part in The Great Destroyer.

Kage
04-18-2007, 11:37 PM
Survivalism is my least favorite song on the whole album.

niobium
04-18-2007, 11:49 PM
I heard Survivalism for the first time yesterday, while listening to Year Zero. It was a ghastly shell of what NIN used to stand for.

philly96
04-18-2007, 11:49 PM
Why dont you like it Kage?

Kage
04-18-2007, 11:50 PM
I like it alright but it's a little annoying. It's a good song but the weakest on the album for me.

philly96
04-18-2007, 11:52 PM
Fair enough. Has anyone else seen Beside you time? I only ask this because where is the song Burn from?

Moses
04-18-2007, 11:53 PM
I gotta get this album. Better than With Teeth?

static
04-18-2007, 11:53 PM
Yes.


Fair enough. Has anyone else seen Beside you time? I only ask this because where is the song Burn from?

It's from the '94 film Natural Born Killers.

Kage
04-19-2007, 12:07 AM
I gotta get this album. Better than With Teeth?

Better than With Teeth, yes. Where it fits in other than that I'm not sure yet.

static
04-19-2007, 12:16 AM
In my humble opinion:
The Fragile
Year Zero
With Teeth
The Downward Spiral
Pretty Hate Machine

philly96
04-19-2007, 12:22 AM
Mine would be:
The fragile
The downward spiral
Year Zero
And all that could have been (yes, I know its a live album)
With_teeth
Pretty hate machine
Broken (yes, I also know its an EP)

static
04-19-2007, 12:23 AM
Do you dislike Broken, or do you just believe that it isn't up to par?

philly96
04-19-2007, 12:25 AM
I just never listen to it. I'm not sure of the reason but I just never really got into it.

Kage
04-19-2007, 12:27 AM
Broken is awesome. So noisy and loud and angry.

philly96
04-19-2007, 12:29 AM
I'll listen to it again after this song. It may get better.

Kage
04-19-2007, 12:30 AM
It took me a long long while to love it. For the longest time I was always turned off by it but suddenly one day I just got sucked into.

philly96
04-19-2007, 12:35 AM
Maybe today will be my day. Although, I do like Wish quite a lot. Just some of the other songs aren't that great for me.

static
04-19-2007, 12:36 AM
The entire CD is great.


Most notably, Help Me I Am In Hell and Gave Up.



I really wish HMIAIH went somewhere. :\

Kage
04-19-2007, 12:38 AM
I like Happiness in Slavery and Last.

I don't like Gave Up that much. It's good, though.

static
04-19-2007, 12:41 AM
Gave Up is simply the most energetic live NIN song ever.


I really dislike HiS. It's just dripping with angst and has a lack of melody. Last is okay.

magicbus
04-19-2007, 12:44 AM
I gave Year Zero a listen through today. Overall I like it, I'm sure it will grow on me with more listens. Very cool sound, noisy and glitchy almost.

I think Survivalism is one of my least favorites as well. It's cool, but I don't know how I feel about Trent's singing rhythm against the song rhythm.

static
04-19-2007, 12:45 AM
I love Another Version, The Good Soldier, My Violent Heart, Zero-Sum, and The Beginning Of The End.




Also, it was discussed earlier, but what's the point of the cd changing color?

Kage
04-19-2007, 12:45 AM
I hate Gave Up live. :-\

Magicbus, this album definitely gets better with more listens.

static
04-19-2007, 12:46 AM
Seriously?


Have you seen them live, or just from DVDs?

philly96
04-19-2007, 12:50 AM
Also, it was discussed earlier, but what's the point of the cd changing color?

Probably not a lot. Broken has gotten slightly better but not a lot really. Happiness in Slavery is great in some parts but rather weak in others. Gave up is actually not that bad.

Kage
04-19-2007, 12:52 AM
Seriously?


Have you seen them live, or just from DVDs?

Just from the DVD.

static
04-19-2007, 12:56 AM
Exactly.


:).

Kage
04-19-2007, 01:00 AM
Good point.

my god
can it go any faster
oh my god
don't think I can last here

static
04-19-2007, 01:03 AM
That's the worst of the opening 5, in my opinion.


Hmm. Or maybe tied with Survivalism.

Kage
04-19-2007, 01:03 AM
Damn you. It's one of my top 3 favorites on the album.

static
04-19-2007, 01:04 AM
My Violent Heart > Vessel.




;)

Kage
04-19-2007, 01:07 AM
Vessel
My Violent Heart
The Greater Good

Those are my three favorite at this point.

static
04-19-2007, 01:28 AM
TGG is probably my least favorite at the moment.

Kage
04-19-2007, 01:29 AM
Jeez.

static
04-19-2007, 01:32 AM
Hahah.


We have completely opposite tastes.




What is your album ranking?

Kage
04-19-2007, 01:34 AM
Gaah.

The Fragile
The Downward Spiral
Year Zero
With Teeth
Pretty Hate Machine
Broken

That's satisfactory for now I suppose.

static
04-19-2007, 01:37 AM
Ahaha.


Hard, I presume?



I don't understand that. We have the same top and basic bottom.


All right, highlight tracks from The Fragile?

misunderstood
04-19-2007, 01:41 AM
It took me a long long while to love it. For the longest time I was always turned off by it but suddenly one day I just got sucked into.
That's exactly what I went through with Broken. I thought it was just okay at first, but one day I just got really into it. It's great. And "Gave Up" is awesome live, I think. It really is one of the more energetic songs they play live. That one and "Last" are probably my two favorite songs off that EP.

Anyway, my top three Year Zero songs as of now are:
The Great Destroyer
The Beginning of the End
My Violent Heart

I don't mind Survivalism but after hearing the entire album, it just isn't as great as some of the other songs on there. And still I think my least favorite track right now is Me, I'm Not.

static
04-19-2007, 01:43 AM
I love the riff near the end of Survivalism.



I don't see the deal with The Great Destroyer either.

Kage
04-19-2007, 01:45 AM
Ahaha.


Hard, I presume?



I don't understand that. We have the same top and basic bottom.


All right, highlight tracks from The Fragile?

That's way too hard. The Fragile is one total work. But I'll give it my best shot.

The Day the World Went Away
Somewhat Damaged
The Frail/The Wretched
Just Like You Imagined
Pilgrimage
The Great Below
Please
Complication
Ripe With Decay


That was way too many, wasn't it?

static
04-19-2007, 01:48 AM
What the hell.


Add Mark Has Been Made and The Fragile and take away Please and Ripe With Decay, we have the same list.




And no, it was fine.

Kage
04-19-2007, 01:49 AM
Yes the Mark Has Been Made and the Fragile are also some of my favorites.

deadinholywood
04-19-2007, 02:01 AM
Nine Inch Nails would have to be one of my favourite bands ever, however i strangely have no desire to buy/download Year Zero.... I think im broken :(

static
04-19-2007, 02:02 AM
:eek:

bwnstl
04-19-2007, 02:07 AM
In my opinion right now:

The Downward Spiral
Year Zero
Still/And All That Could Have Been
The Fragile
Broken
With Teeth
Pretty Hate Machine

Really though, I consider AATCHB, The Fragile, and Broken right at the same level.

From Year Zero:
The Good Soldier - This track rocks because of the restraint it shows. You keep waiting for an explosion of noise and it never comes and, in this case at least, that's a good thing.
Capital G - The staggered vocal delivery of the verses contrast amazingly with the melodic sun chorus.
My Violent Heart - The explosion of sound that you didn't get in The Good Soldier is in this track in spades.
The Warning - I love the feel of this song as The Presence is introduced, and--my god--that bass line is so damn catchy.
The Great Destroyer - Trent hits the highest notes I believe he's ever made, and that explosion in the last half--like a computer suddenly went psycho. I had someone pop his head into my room and ask "What DJ is this?" during this part.
In This Twilight - Trent doing vocal acrobatics again, with a great glitchy electronic backing.
And as far as creepy instrumentals go, I think The Greater Good and Another Version of the Truth are great.

static
04-19-2007, 02:09 AM
Zero Sum is so brilliant.


The chorus chant is so hauntingly depressing.

Polyamarous
04-19-2007, 01:13 PM
The links and websites aren't silly, it's really cool, and if you'd just suspend your tough guy, not-impressed image for a second maybe you could enjoy what's going on rather than playing Mr. Unimpressed.

They are frivolous. And I don't see why it's so hard for you to accept that I am unimpressed.

Roy.
04-19-2007, 01:16 PM
so level with me...do you all think year zero was that good? i haven't really read the thread but everywhere i go it is getting praise.

Dr. Jake Destructo
04-19-2007, 01:24 PM
I like it more than any other NIN album I've heard.

Kage
04-19-2007, 01:28 PM
They are frivolous. And I don't see why it's so hard for you to accept that I am unimpressed.

"frivolous" rofl. :lol: gg man.

:lol:

Polyamarous
04-19-2007, 01:30 PM
I don't inderstand the humour in frivolous!

Kage
04-19-2007, 01:33 PM
The only people who are unimpressed are the kind who like to deprive themselves of joining in on fun just to prove how hard they are to impress.

misunderstood
04-19-2007, 01:34 PM
so level with me...do you all think year zero was that good? i haven't really read the thread but everywhere i go it is getting praise.

Yes, it really is that good. I'm loving this album even more with each listen. And if you really read into the whole concept and stuff, it gets even better..or at least it did for me. For me, it's still not up to par with TDS and has a long way to go to even get close to it..but that's just me. I've always and probably will forever love TDS. :p


Edit: Also, to go along with this whole concept, NIN played a secret show last night in L.A.
A bunch of people got called and were asked to meet at some location. They had a short meeting and were then rushed to this dark room where the band came out and played for a while before the place was raided by some SWAT team. I think it's awesome that NIN is taking all this to another level..something different. Anyway, here's the page where you can watch the video of last night's meeting/show.
http://www.opensourceresistance.net/

Lucky bastards!

samthebassman
04-20-2007, 12:28 AM
The Fragile is still NIN best release.

static
04-20-2007, 12:59 AM
This is now a solid second placer behind The Fragile.


Last three tracks are my favorites, which is rather convenient.



Zero Sum is probably the second best apocalypse song ever, behind Collapse The Light Into Earth.

samthebassman
04-20-2007, 01:01 AM
It isnt as good as downward spiral for me, so it sits about tthird in the list of NIN releases.

misunderstood
04-20-2007, 02:00 AM
^Yeah, same here...TDS-->TF-->YZ
And that's only not counting 'Still'. Otherwise, Year Zero would 4th. Who knows though..it might end up changing and moving up later.

Kage
04-20-2007, 10:38 AM
Yes, it really is that good. I'm loving this album even more with each listen. And if you really read into the whole concept and stuff, it gets even better..or at least it did for me. For me, it's still not up to par with TDS and has a long way to go to even get close to it..but that's just me. I've always and probably will forever love TDS. :p


Edit: Also, to go along with this whole concept, NIN played a secret show last night in L.A.
A bunch of people got called and were asked to meet at some location. They had a short meeting and were then rushed to this dark room where the band came out and played for a while before the place was raided by some SWAT team. I think it's awesome that NIN is taking all this to another level..something different. Anyway, here's the page where you can watch the video of last night's meeting/show.
http://www.opensourceresistance.net/

Lucky bastards!
Yeah I saw that a couple days ago. Pretty weird.

Clunge
04-20-2007, 12:01 PM
Just whilst everyone else is doing this,

TDS > YZ > PHM > TF > WT

For me.

Huber
04-20-2007, 01:28 PM
It's been too long since I've heard the older albums to judge.

deadinholywood
04-20-2007, 06:59 PM
TF>>>>Still>>AATCHB>WT.TDS>PHM>the various remix cds

Year Zero I don't know because i haven't heard it all yet, seriously someone convince me why i should buy this album

Big Baby Jesus
04-20-2007, 08:01 PM
Pretty Hate Machine > The Downward Spiral > Year Zero > Broken > With Teeth > The Fragile

Nine Inch Nails have been my favorite for nearly a decade now (Metal -wise)

Year Zero completely exceeded expectations. I thought it would be bad without another year of work or so, but it's awesome.

Dr. Jake Destructo
04-21-2007, 03:02 AM
I agree man. By far my highest expected album of this year.

It owns on PT's Fear of the Blank Planet mang...

Inkstar
04-21-2007, 07:53 AM
Hey guys, posted in here a while ago saying first I really listened/saw of NIN was on the Beside You In Time DVD.

Anywho, aquired Year Zero today, and I must say, it's great! Although I can't compare it to any other albums as I have no listened to them. :p

samthebassman
04-21-2007, 08:11 AM
Well get the rest then.

static
04-21-2007, 05:09 PM
I listened through The Fragile for the first time in a while, and I must say there is not one bad song on the first disc.



The Great Below is, well, great. :p

magicbus
04-21-2007, 07:03 PM
You're right, Fragile Left is kickass. All good songs.

I really want to learn The Frail.

misunderstood
04-21-2007, 09:57 PM
Just Like You Imagined kicks ***! That's my favorite track off The Fragile..actually, it's probably one of my all time favorite NIN songs.

static
04-21-2007, 10:01 PM
You're right, Fragile Left is kickass. All good songs.

I really want to learn The Frail.


I know it. :D

Flynn
04-21-2007, 10:25 PM
Pretty Hate Machine still remains their best, IMHO.

magicbus
04-22-2007, 01:45 AM
Just Like You Imagined is so crazy. Everytime I hear it I want to kick some ***. And I have it as one of my ringtones too :cool:

misunderstood
04-22-2007, 01:59 AM
^Nice! I have Head Like A Hole as one of my ringtones.
And I also have Terrible Lie somewhere on my phone..but it sucks.

Flynn
04-22-2007, 02:03 AM
Yeah, it's crazy what Trent went through to make that album, Halo 2.

samthebassman
04-22-2007, 02:37 AM
I listened through The Fragile for the first time in a while, and I must say there is not one bad song on the first disc.



The Great Below is, well, great. :p

Agreed, disc 1 - 10/10, disc 2 - 7/10.

Kage
04-22-2007, 02:47 AM
dude the NEW ALBUM ****ING ROKS.

misunderstood
04-22-2007, 02:57 AM
^It does. And I'm really digging Capital G right now...I also just read that it's gonna be the next single.

Polyamarous
04-22-2007, 06:53 AM
Nice one! I look forward to the video they do for it.

Meatplow
04-22-2007, 06:58 AM
This new albums not really doing it for me...

It seems very average. I'll give it a bit more time but i don't see the hype.

AxeShredder49
04-22-2007, 07:11 AM
wow this band sucks hot sause

Polyamarous
04-22-2007, 01:33 PM
So does your ***.

samthebassman
04-22-2007, 07:13 PM
wow this band sucks hot sause

Banned, nuff said.

static
04-22-2007, 09:28 PM
:).

bebubly
04-23-2007, 09:11 AM
yey!! i will be seeing nin at reading this year :)

Meatplow
04-23-2007, 12:03 PM
Listening to Pretty Hate Machine, this and The Downward Spiral are the only two albums that have really clicked nicely with me. Year Zero is taking a bit to sink in, and I haven't heard the Fragile or With Teeth because i've been told not to bother.

bebubly
04-23-2007, 12:50 PM
the fragile is amazing. with teeth is not fantastic, but atthe same time it isn't terrible either-it is worth a listen.

i haven't really gotten into yz yet, but i haven't listened to it much either so that might be why.

Kage
04-23-2007, 01:05 PM
Listening to Pretty Hate Machine, this and The Downward Spiral are the only two albums that have really clicked nicely with me. Year Zero is taking a bit to sink in, and I haven't heard the Fragile or With Teeth because i've been told not to bother.

That's ridiculous. The Fragile is arguably his best. Although I can understand why you'd have been told that--it seems that those who are on the Downward Spiral side of the argument despise The Fragile, and those who are on the Fragile side love both albums.

bebubly
04-23-2007, 01:10 PM
tds and the fragile are my favourite nin albums.

Kage
04-23-2007, 01:11 PM
Me too.

Voyage34
04-23-2007, 01:26 PM
bea, would you be a dear and upload the fragile for me please :)

i'd be oh so greatful =)

bebubly
04-23-2007, 01:27 PM
if i still have it then yes, but i am kinda doubting i do :( i'll have a look.

Voyage34
04-23-2007, 01:29 PM
okay :)

i have downward spiral, pretty hate machine, with teeth and year zero, but not the fragile :(

Kage
04-23-2007, 01:32 PM
Hey bebubbly don't worry about it I got Voyage covered.

Check yo rep.

Voyage34
04-23-2007, 01:34 PM
thanks for the effort kage, but i can't access megaupload, it's filtered out on both web servers i have access to :(

bebubly
04-23-2007, 01:37 PM
thanks kage, turns out i don't have the whole thing anyway :(

also, chris, if you want i will dl that and put it on sendspace for you??

Voyage34
04-23-2007, 01:40 PM
yes please, thanks bea, i just repped you with the links he gave me :)

Kage
04-23-2007, 02:05 PM
Ergh.

Meatplow
04-23-2007, 03:15 PM
That's ridiculous. The Fragile is arguably his best. Although I can understand why you'd have been told that--it seems that those who are on the Downward Spiral side of the argument despise The Fragile, and those who are on the Fragile side love both albums.

Yeah well i'm more open minded that that, i've just never really seeked out some other NIN until recently. Always been a fan of Downward Spiral, that albums plays just as the title reads.

Dead Star
04-23-2007, 03:18 PM
The colour change on this cd is really minted

/bought it about an hour ago

static
04-23-2007, 04:07 PM
With Teeth has Right Where It Belongs and Beside You In Time.




Some of his best work, most notably the former.

Justin
04-23-2007, 04:20 PM
Year Zero is okay, I haven't really gotten into it yet.

bebubly
04-23-2007, 04:55 PM
chris, i have dld them and i will leave them uploading overnight as they mega slow my internet down.

Justin
04-23-2007, 04:56 PM
I bought it with a Year Zero t-shirt, which apparently has something "hidden" on it.

:eek:

Voyage34
04-23-2007, 04:59 PM
chris, i have dld them and i will leave them uploading overnight as they mega slow my internet down.

thank you love =)

samthebassman
04-23-2007, 06:14 PM
I bought it with a Year Zero t-shirt, which apparently has something "hidden" on it.

:eek:

A secret drugs pocket perhaps? Iam intrigued.

misunderstood
04-24-2007, 09:32 PM
tds and the fragile are my favourite nin albums.
Same here..though for me, TDS is just slightly above TF.

So I was reading an interview with Reznor that was posted at the ETS boards. Few things I thought were interesting:
Trent is asked how he thinks the YZ songs will translate live. He says he has a great band at the moment but it’s a rock band and would be hard to fit the new songs into that structure.
What does this mean?! Is he planning on changing the NIN lineup again? Ugh, I hope not! I like the current lineup alot. I've always thought it was one of the best ones he's had. I hope I'm just over analyzing this statement and that he's not really planning on changing the lineup again.

He said this current tour was not meant as a YZ tour but as a way of making up for touring the USA so much and not the rest of the world! Said as they don’t get radio very much or mtv that they wanted to tour to get the message out.
What?! So does that mean we're not getting a US tour this year? Ugh, I've been waiting for them to come back..I was actually hoping they'd tour the US this fall again! They toured the rest of the world enough last year, didn't they?! :p

Trent says that the second part of YZ should hopefully be out in a year and that he would do a tour for both albums. Mentioned the presentation would be like ‘the wall’ with a theatrical based feeling and less like just a rock band on stage.
Next year..so soon? Great! But are we seriously not getting a tour until then? And a presentation like The Wall? NICE! That should be awesome--hopefully it all works out. I can only imagine what they'll have on stage, though.

Trent says that people in his ‘shitty home town’ are recognizing some of his song writing ability after always saying NIN as just noise- some people have spoken to him and said-‘you wrote that Johnny Cash song?!’
Ha!...Ugh.


/end rant

Kage
04-25-2007, 08:55 AM
Thanks for posting that. There's a lot to look forward to as an NIN fan at these times.

samthebassman
04-25-2007, 06:00 PM
Haha, "you wrote that Johnny Cash song?".

Meatplow
04-25-2007, 08:36 PM
yeah i find that amusing

year zero would undoubtedly be a difficult album to bring to live production, but in all honesty it doesn't sound that dissimilar to their other songs which they have managed to produce live before. it's really grown on me now.

i'm also back into the downward spiral, and antichrist superstar... if that counts as a reznor album. i really like the production ;)

Kage
04-25-2007, 08:38 PM
I find a lot of NIN songs to be fairly underwhelming live, but that's probably because I've never actually been to a show.

misunderstood
04-25-2007, 09:39 PM
Best live NIN song: either Somewhat Damaged or Mr. Self Destruct.
Though Eraser was beyond great as well. ..and so was Sin.
Beside You In Time was beautiful too. The thing with that song was that it never got anywhere. It was too loud from start to end. I think someone had already mentioned this before, not sure if it was on these boards. But anyway, it just didn't have the same effect live as it does on the album.:confused:

Meatplow
04-25-2007, 09:52 PM
Heresy, March of The Pigs & Ruiner are my favourite NIN songs right now, i reckon they would be amazing live.

I find a lot of NIN songs to be fairly underwhelming live, but that's probably because I've never actually been to a show.

Ditto. Although watching And All That Could of Been on a massive screen with surround sound the other night after a metal gig afterparty was pretty awesome.

deadinholywood
04-26-2007, 05:58 AM
Reptile was possibly the greatest few minutes of live music i have ever experienced. The drums and synths just seem to put the whole crowd into some sort of strange trance.

NIN live>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>NIN DVD

Kage
04-26-2007, 08:25 AM
Reptile is tight even on DVD.

Meatplow
04-26-2007, 08:28 AM
np - Terrible Lie :cool:

misunderstood
04-26-2007, 01:16 PM
Reptile was possibly the greatest few minutes of live music i have ever experienced. The drums and synths just seem to put the whole crowd into some sort of strange trance.

NIN live>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>NIN DVD

Yes, I agree..NIN live >>> DVD.
The live DVDs they've put out are fantastic but still do no justice for their actual live show. And Reptile is freakin' amazing live! I've only seen them perform that song twice. Once during soundcheck and later during the actual show. 'Twas nice.

np: The Greater Good

Polyamarous
04-26-2007, 01:39 PM
How many songs from YZ did they do on the most recent tour?
all I can remeber is Survivalism.

misunderstood
04-26-2007, 01:40 PM
^I think it was only Survivalism and The Beginning of the End.

bwnstl
04-26-2007, 03:41 PM
Heresy, March of The Pigs & Ruiner are my favourite NIN songs right now, i reckon they would be amazing live.


March of the Pigs is absolutely IMMENSE live. Can't speak for Ruiner.

Meatplow
04-26-2007, 03:42 PM
^I think it was only Survivalism and The Beginning of the End.

Those and The Good Soldier are probably my favourite songs off the album.

March of the Pigs is absolutely IMMENSE live. Can't speak for Ruiner.

I bet it is. Awesome song.

samthebassman
04-26-2007, 05:55 PM
Best NIN song for me is either/or:

Hurt
We're In This Together
The Great Below

misunderstood
04-26-2007, 06:10 PM
^We're in this Together Now is an awesome song. Wish I could have heard it live at least once. I don't know if I could actually pick out my favorite NIN song(s). No, yes I can..my favorite NIN song is And All That Could Have Been.
After that, I'm not sure. I've always really loved The Becoming, Just Like You Imagined, and The Big Come Down.

samthebassman
04-26-2007, 06:26 PM
Yeah the instrumental stuff is awesome.

bwnstl
04-26-2007, 06:26 PM
^We're in this Together Now is an awesome song. Wish I could have heard it live at least once. I don't know if I could actually pick out my favorite NIN song(s). No, yes I can..my favorite NIN song is And All That Could Have Been.
After that, I'm not sure. I've always really loved The Becoming, Just Like You Imagined, and The Big Come Down.

Except for The Big Come Down, we're right on the same page.

misunderstood
04-26-2007, 06:37 PM
^ :cool:
The Big Come Down is a good song..not too good live though...at least I didn't think so.
Yeah the instrumental stuff is awesome.
Indeed. All the instrumentals he's done on every album are excellent. Leaving Hope from Still is another one of my favorite instrumentals. A Warm Place and Complication are awesome as well, but JLYI has always been my favorite one. There's a video floating around of the band rehearsing this song a few years back..I like watching it every once in a while.

magicbus
04-26-2007, 06:59 PM
Some of my favorites (just off the top of my head):

A Warm Place/Eraser
Just Like You Imagined
The Day The World Went Away
The Frail
Beside You In Time (the ending is so epic)

What albums are All The Could Have Been and The Great Below on? I can't find them on my computer, I thought I had all of them though.

Meatplow
04-26-2007, 07:08 PM
Heresy.

That song is the bomb, i can listen to it anytime and never get sick of it. It's a perfect fusion of the NIN electronica elements and digital distortion to me.

misunderstood
04-26-2007, 07:09 PM
^Yeah, I forgot to mention Beside You In Time as well.

And All That Could Have Been is on Still
and The Great Below is on the left disc of The Fragile

samthebassman
04-26-2007, 07:11 PM
Great Below - The Fragile
All That Could Have Been - All That Could Have Been

magicbus
04-26-2007, 07:13 PM
Weird. I never had The Great Below on here, but I have the disc here and just ripped it on to my computer. Pretty cool so far.

I don't think I have Still.

samthebassman
04-26-2007, 07:14 PM
Great Below is unreal, one of his darkest songs.

misunderstood
04-26-2007, 07:15 PM
I have a link for STILL if you'd like?

magicbus
04-26-2007, 07:17 PM
Sounds good. Thanks :)

Yeah that was a pretty dark song. I really liked Trent's vocals in the middle when he screams "the great below".

misunderstood
04-26-2007, 07:33 PM
I just need to look for the link. I'll post up in a few mins.

Edit: Here you go, Still.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=AU2OJPG5

Hmm. Maybe I should send it in for the DU. I don't think it's been sent out in quite some time now.

bwnstl
04-26-2007, 11:20 PM
Yeah, the only time it was in the DU was when I upped it back in December.

philly96
04-27-2007, 01:51 AM
My favourites are:
La Mer
Closer
Every day is exactly the same

Clunge
04-27-2007, 02:08 AM
March Of The Pigs
The Beginning Of The End
Terrible Lie

Top 3 :cool:.

Meatplow
04-27-2007, 02:09 AM
Terrible Lie is growing on me as a favourite.

DrumIntoTheNight
04-27-2007, 02:37 AM
If any of you have been checking out the ARG, and are registered on ETS or The Spiral, I suggest you check out their forums ASAP. We've found a round-up website, that includes a list of contacts which contains all the forum-member's names. It's too damn cool.

Chu
04-27-2007, 02:45 AM
If any of you guys use garage band, you might be interested in this:

Nine Inch Nails has once again released the sources in Garageband format for three of their tracks from their new album Year Zero. You can also download user-created remixes. Trent Reznor claims that he plans to release the entire album this way.

Source: http://www.nin.com/current/index.html
Remixes: http://ninremixes.com/

Some of you guys might find something in there you enjoy :)

misunderstood
04-27-2007, 11:20 AM
Terrible Lie is growing on me as a favourite.
That song was one that really actually took me a while to get into. Now I think it's wonderful. But for some reason I always found it kind of boring until I heard it live..and that was awesome. Still, I think my favorite track off PHM has to be Sin.

If any of you have been checking out the ARG, and are registered on ETS or The Spiral, I suggest you check out their forums ASAP. We've found a round-up website, that includes a list of contacts which contains all the forum-member's names. It's too damn cool.
Ha, that's awesome. Is every single member of ETS suppose to be on that list? I don't see my name on there...yet. With my luck I'll probably be executed or deceased. :upset:

DrumIntoTheNight
04-27-2007, 11:23 AM
Not every member, as it turns out. We're trying to figure out what the criteria for being on the list is.

Kage
04-27-2007, 12:56 PM
****ing incredible what he's doing here. And getting more incredible with every day.

samthebassman
05-21-2007, 11:03 PM
Is the new dvd worth getting???

DrumIntoTheNight
05-22-2007, 01:30 AM
Hell yes.

misunderstood
05-22-2007, 02:51 AM
Is the new dvd worth getting???

Definitely.
It has its pros and cons but I'd say it is a good buy.


Also, I'm currently stuck on the song Zero-Sum.
I can't get over how great it is!

The_Organizm
05-22-2007, 04:31 PM
Is the new dvd worth getting???

It's easily one of the greatest live videos ever made. The sound is just incredible.

Kage
05-22-2007, 05:55 PM
It's okay. Underwhelming as hell.

deadinholywood
05-22-2007, 06:59 PM
I have to agree, And All That Could Have Been is much better.

DrumIntoTheNight
05-23-2007, 02:06 PM
I love Amazon.co.uk. This arrived in the post this afternoon from NIN's record company, after being won through an Amazon competition.

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g63/gordon77uk/HAHAHA.jpg

Stoked doesn't quite cover it.

Dead Star
05-23-2007, 04:06 PM
Wow thats pretty sweet man.

misunderstood
05-23-2007, 05:27 PM
Ugh, lucky bastard! :p
That's ****in' nice!

deadinholywood
05-23-2007, 08:03 PM
:eek: thats awesome, im quite jealous!

misunderstood
05-24-2007, 01:21 AM
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,21741980-5006024,00.html

Just got done reading that interview and wow, Trent is pretty damn mad/upset about the whole music industry and label bullshit.
It's a pretty interesting interview..thought I'd post it on here.
Talks about how future NIN albums might be released, that is if Trent doesn't decide to just stop recording altogether. Looks like he owes his label one more album and that's it...maybe we'll see the resurrection of his own label, NOTHING? :p

Dimmu Burger
05-25-2007, 04:50 PM
I worry about the future of NIN music after he said that he didn't want to use major labels.

misunderstood
05-25-2007, 07:03 PM
^Yeah, no kidding. I don't think Trent can just stop working though..he's a goddamn workaholic! :p:
Anyway, I just got done reading some interview they have up at the NINHotline...First thing I read was this:
Reznor positioned the new NIN album, Year Zero, as the first in a trilogy, but says he has been sidetracked from the second installment
:eek: ....A trilogy?! I thought there was only suppose to be two parts to this album. This is great!
"But some interesting things have come up in terms of turning this into another format of entertainment, like a television show or a movie. I've had some meetings with A-list people I'm interested in possibly working with.
A Television show?! Nice! And A-list people...I wonder who. :confused:
"I haven't written any new music for this yet, I literally haven't had a second to do that. That's what I'm doing when I get home. But I don't expect it to sound like Year Zero did. It won't be another 15 songs from that same vibe."
This should all be very interesting. Wonder if the album will be a little more optimistic...Looking forward to this all.

samthebassman
06-01-2007, 05:35 AM
I cant get enough of Year Zero, it is definitly a grower.

misunderstood
06-01-2007, 12:03 PM
THE NEW NINE INCH NAILS MUSIC->YEAR ZERO< IS ONE OF THE BEST ALBUM'S IVE HEARD IN YEARS. WE ALL MUST SUPPORT ARTIST WHO FIGHT THE SYSTEM AND DO THINGS ACCORDING TO WHAT'S IN THERE HEART. THIS IS A MAGICAL PIECE OF WORK AND I HIGHLY SUGGEST YOU DO ANYTHING YOU CAN TO GET YOUR HANDS ON IT.
--NIKKI SIXX

Just saw this as a bulletin on MySpace posted by Nikki Sixx.
Supporting NIN..very cool, if you ask me.:p:

visionofadream
06-07-2007, 02:49 PM
Trent is an amazing person, I just got into lisening to NIN about a year ago and when Year Zero came out I was really impressed. I've read interviews with him and he is a great, intellegent speaker and is very good at proving a point=) (a very good point at that) very nice spread of albums they have, and I can't wait to hear more.

misunderstood
06-07-2007, 04:17 PM
Next year...next year. As for now I'm still enjoying Year Zero very much.
And I'm still very stuck on the song Zero Sum...by far my favorite track off the album.

Jet17
06-22-2007, 02:21 PM
Reznor is the only official member of Nine Inch Nails and remains solely responsible for the musical direction of the band.

I never knew that before...so is he the only one who records NIN's records? or does he have other people playing instruments and stuff during his recording sessions?

pixiesfanyo
06-22-2007, 02:24 PM
Depends.

repcak
06-22-2007, 02:25 PM
yes, he is the only one... during the tours he has musicians who play the songs...

Jet17
06-22-2007, 02:34 PM
Oh cool, so if he has musicians helping him in the studio and on tours then why doesn't he just create an official band? You know, so he wouldn't have to constantly find new ppl to help him.

EDIT: Oh, I just saw that you said that he is the only one in the studio :/. So how does he do that then? Does he just use overdubbing or something?

repcak
06-22-2007, 02:40 PM
why should he? through this he has 100% control over his music... he is doing the drums, guitars, electronics, bass, etc. and so he can create exactly the music he has in his mind!!

pixiesfanyo
06-22-2007, 02:42 PM
he actually writes all the stuff basically.

why limit yourself to only having it be expressed through one prism of band members?

Jet17
06-22-2007, 02:49 PM
Oh ya, that makes sense. I always new Trent was talented but I never new he was this talented - I'm impressed.

repcak
06-22-2007, 02:55 PM
yeah... not everyone can do it... playing an instrument is one thing, but composing whole albums is another thing...

punintended_42
07-01-2007, 01:26 AM
why should he? through this he has 100% control over his music... he is doing the drums, guitars, electronics, bass, etc. and so he can create exactly the music he has in his mind!!

I think he actually uses a drum machine for most or all of the "drums" . . . but he does play everything else.

repcak
08-17-2007, 10:28 AM
I've seen NINE INCH NAILS yesterday :D

my sister won tickets for the FM4 Frequency Festival in Salzburg. So we went there for free and yesterday NIN played. their song-collections was fantastic!! hold on your breath...

Something i Can Never Have
Burn
Dead Souls
La Mer
Gave Up
March of the Pigs (with some elements from PHM)
Terrible Lie/Sin (i'm not sure)
Head Like a Hole
Closer

alone Burn, Dead Souls AND La Mer live was more than worth it... in addition he played "the hand that feeds" and 3 songs of his new album, which i still don't have.

Trent Reznor was pissed off once again, cause of stupid austria and fans: (this was after Closer)
"Okay, so what's going on here? Let me guess, we got booked between two German bands and you are all just so ****ing bored. Maybe someone put something in your Wiener Schnitzel... you know, what assholes... you assholes are some fukking stupid... PIGS" ... great interlude for the March :D


btw. on wednesday tool was the headliner, but they had to cancel it... keenan got sick... its the 4th time in my life that i miss Tool :upset:

ATM
08-17-2007, 10:34 AM
Everyone stood around looking bored?

repcak
08-17-2007, 10:55 AM
yes; i was at the wide-screen some 200metres away from the stage.

the problem was that "Beatsteaks" (a famous german band) played before NIN, then NIN and afterwards "Die Ärzte" played and this is a fukking cult-legend-band for all austrian and german ppl. most of the ppl in the first rows weren't NIN-Fans, those were Ärzte-Fans... to stupid for NIN :(