Nine Inch Nails

[repcak]

best album: the fragile
favourite album: the downward spiral
for aggressions: broken

[Kage]

Fragile is the total package of what NIN is capable of.
Right

The Fragile hit me right on, whereas TDS took me awhile to get into. I love it now, but at first it was too... emotionally heavy and depressive. It still is, but that's one of the reasons I love it. I don't know many people who can make an album that is that powerful.

[misunderstood]

*Bump*

I spent $80 on a ticket to go see NIN in August the other day, and since then I've been wondering what the atmosphere at NIN shows is generally like. Anyone care to fill me in?


You can go to echoingthesound.net and look for the tour journals...there are reviews and comments on every show the band did on this past club tour. It's a good NIN board.

[misunderstood]

The new dates for the fall tour (with QOTSA) have been announced...finally! :D They are on the 'current' section of the NIN official site and some more are going to be announced later.

Can't wait for this one! I'll probably be making it to the San Antonio show on 10/16. I wish I could make both the Houston and S.A. but by that time I'll be in school so...it gets tough traveling around during the week. Anyway, the countdown begins...again! Heh. :D D@mn, I just hope these shows don't sell out as quick as the club dates did.

[Tron]

This is a shame, I have no desire to see QOTSA.

:(

Oh well.

[repcak]

yesterday NIN played in germany on southside festival; i have read the review and the concert was full of aggression (NIN started the show with Wish)!! (except hurt was a more "quiet" song)
during star****ers, when they came to the bridge, trent shouted "stop, stop,... f*** the bridge" and they didn't played the slower part :D

and today i will see them... i try to get in the first row and i will make some photos for you! i promise....

and the great thing, they haven't played too much With_teeth songs... more older songs :thumb: and the show lasted 1h and 20minutes :)

[repcak]

i found the whole setlist from yesterday

setlist southside 2005:

Pinion
Wish
Sin
March of The Pigs
The Line begins to Blur
Something I can never have
The Hand that feeds
Terrible Lie
Closer
Burn
You know what you are?
The Big Come Down
Gave up
Hurt
Love is not enough
Getting smaller
Star****ers, Inc
Head like a Hole




@Kage: if you wanna read the review from southside 2005, here is the link
http://fm4.orf.at/holzmann/199492/main (it's in german )

[G_Mac07]

Oh man I can't wait until August 22nd, the concert reviews sound great.

Also, did NIN ever cover Pink Floyd's Comfortably Numb? I found it on my college network, and it's apparently NIN, PF and David Bowie. I don't think it's genuine but I figured I'd ask anyway.

[repcak]

so i am still alive... to be in the 3rd row is suicide :D but i made some really nice photos and i even got the string from the guitarist, who smashed his guitar at the end and the whole neck flought into my direction and i was one of 10 people who grabbed it and fought for it... after 5minutes there were only 5left and we decided to divide the guitar, i got the the g string ( i think) and 3 guys fought for the guitarneck... i am happy with my string, cause i really don't know who got the neck . but i wanna have a string than nothing. :thumb:
so his guitar (the red fender ) is history .. http://fm4.orf.at/holzmann/199492/main on the first photo you can see the red guitar, it's a picture from the the festival one day before (one of the ****ty one)

dresden dolls were great too... great support ...they played even a cover version of war pigs from black sabbath ( which i am going to see on 20.6 together with velvet revolver and black label society :thumb: )

alltogether 5microphones were damaged, 2guitars (trent threw his black dean guitar into the crowd.... 1metre beside me , but the security saved it...so nobody got it) dozen of waterbottles were flying through the air and one keyboard was damaged...during hurt!! trent played hurt and at the end of the song the microphone felt cause the pillar was so weak... trent tried to fix it (the song wasn't over... about 30sec were left), but the pillar with the micro felt once again, so Trent made one footstep back and kicked the whole keyboard down :naughty:
then one guy(from the backstage) came on the stage to fix the keyboard and trent , 4metres behind him, took a waterbottle, layed it on his Pen,is and pisses (symbolical) on him with water... :D

during star****ers inc. (he even played the bridge today, not so like the day before) we started to sing the part "don't you, don't you" and then everybody stopped and was waiting for trent for saying "Fu,ck you", but he stood there, smiled at us and said nothing,... then we once again started to sing "don't you don't you, don't you" faster, louder, faster louder, faster louder... until trent shouted "FU,CK YOU" :D

at the end he said: “In the last two days we had 2 shi,ttty concerts in germany, and we thought we are going to kill ourself, but you saved us. Thank you, you’re the greatest crowd…..” :D

and here is the setlist
Pinion
The Frail
The Wretched
Wish
Sin
The Line Begins To Blur
March Of The Pigs
Something I Can Never Have
Hand That Feeds
Terrible Lie
Closer
Love Is Not Enough
home
Burn
?
You Know What You Are?
Suck
Gave Up
Hurt
Dead Souls
Star****ers Inc.
Head Like A Hole


i am going to upload a RAR. package with all photos i have made...

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Pinion
Wish
Sin
March of The Pigs
The Line begins to Blur
Something I can never have
The Hand that feeds
Terrible Lie
Closer
Burn
You know what you are?
The Big Come Down
Gave up
Hurt
Love is not enough
Getting smaller
Star****ers, Inc
Head like a Hole

That is one awesome setlist... although I wish that they included my favorite NIN song: "We're In This Together."

[repcak]

ok here is the upload with all photos, vids (only 1-2sec because my batteries were so weak) and 3 photos from the fm4 homepage

http://s23.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=17U151QEAZW1H1ZP078OSMIWKL

about 15mb, zip file

EDIT: look at foto P6140027 ... its the hurt song... the keyboard that got smashed some 2minutes later because of the pillar of the microphone

[Magicaltroll]

That is one awesome setlist... although I wish that they included my favorite NIN song: "We're In This Together."
123
I would kill to hear that song live.

[Magicaltroll]

HOLY CRPA! I'm goign to the seattl eshow!! OMG I CANT EVEN BLEIEVE THIS!!!!! OGMSWEOSDNFKSD
:'(
I'm not going to see them...
:'(
They're not ocming here and I don't have anyone to take me to Pheonix
:'(
...
:'(

[repcak]

123
I would kill to hear that song live.


i would like to hear 'mr. selfdestruct' and 'heresy' live! great songs

[misunderstood]

i would like to hear 'mr. selfdestruct' and 'heresy' live! great songs

I'd absolutely love to hear 'Mr.SelfDestruct' as well as 'The Becoming'..it'd be interesting.

[Magicaltroll]

I'd absolutely love to hear 'Mr.SelfDestruct' as well as 'The Becoming'..it'd be interesting.
I'd lov to hear Something I Can Never Have live too... That would be awesome. Because every version I have of that song is extremely emotional, I love it.

[repcak]

I'd lov to hear Something I Can Never Have live too... That would be awesome. Because every version I have of that song is extremely emotional, I love it.

:rolleyes: haven't you seen my review of the concert i've been? :confused: :angry:
he played something i can never have ... and he plays it often

[Magicaltroll]

:rolleyes: haven't you seen my review of the concert i've been? :confused: :angry:
he played something i can never have ... and he plays it often
I know he did, I read it.
And yeah I know its played often, but I've never seen it, and I want to :p

[Kage]

Can't wait, NIN is coming October 19th to the Toyota Center, which means I'll be able to get tickets this time! What an amazing show it will be with QOTSA.

[repcak]

maybe i am gonna to see qotsa this summer... they are playing on 2 festivals this summer... but i am not such a big fan of them. i once was, but not now

Edit: anyone saw the photos from the concert? some feedback??

[Kage]

The photos look pretty sweet, and nice review. I like the look of the new band, as opposed to the band during the Fragility Tour. Trent looks refreshed. Can't wait to see them in four months.

[repcak]

yes he looks refreshed but he has to many muscles :upset: in his ealier day he looked better.

once one guy said: "arnold reznor turned completly to trent schwarzenegger. He is now the incredible Hulk" ... at first i was eroded at him, but he is right.... it looks weird when a man with such muscles stands on the stage and plays hurt..... :evil:

[Kage]

He does look weird...haha, it doesn't really match his lyrics when this strong man is playing something like Hurt.

[repcak]

yeah... but the mythos trent reznor died for me on the concert, but today i put the with_teeth cd back into my discman and the world was the same... the feeling is back again

[repcak]

one of the great things were that, after the show the guitarst ( i don't know his name) went outside to the aftershow party and he stood there for 2minutes beside me. i wasn't sure if he was it or not; me and a friend debated too long if he is it or not, but then he went... so it was too late to get a sign from him :(

edit: http://www.theninhotline.net/news/index.php
-> new interviews updated

[misunderstood]

When i saw them in Austin this past May I also approached Aaron without being too sure if it was him or not...good thing it was him, hehe. Anyway, they walk around pretty freely which is rather cool. Anyway, anyone planning on joining the now offical fan club...the spiral, I think they called it?

[misfitsandcider]

hmm new album is ace... right where it belongs is one ace song..tahts all i can say so buh bye

[Kage]

When i saw them in Austin this past May I also approached Aaron without being too sure if it was him or not...good thing it was him, hehe. Anyway, they walk around pretty freely which is rather cool. Anyway, anyone planning on joining the now offical fan club...the spiral, I think they called it?
Nope. I once payed $15 for a similar club, and I really regretted it. Much less paying $60 for this one.

[Kage]

Meh. It'll go on sale when it goes on sale.

[repcak]

i can't fell asleep... and its 4am in the morning :upset:

[Sleeper]

I couldnt fall asleep till 530 am :(

[Daven]

the hand that feeds rocks assssssss

[Kage]

I haven't gone to sleep earlier than 4:30 in weeks.

[BlindWriting]

Long time no post.

The closest show to me is in NYC, on November 3rd. That's a school night, though... but I really, really, really want to go.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I couldnt fall asleep till 530 am :(

Dude..I get up to go to work then. :lol:

Let's just say I were to go out and buy a NIN album...Which should I buy? I would assume The Downward Spiral, due to my somewhat expansive knowledge of them. It did well in the Top 100 album comp

[Kage]

:lol:

Depends. I recommend The Fragile because it's slightly more accessible, if not more daunting for pure length. Fragile is my personal favorite as well. TDS is darker, more abrasive, and very depressing. It's an emotionally-heavy and burdensom listen, but that's why I like it so much.

In conclusion, either of those two. I'm assuming TDS will be cheaper since it isn't two discs, which may be a deciding factor as well.

[BlindWriting]

Start with The Downward Spiral, and whether you like it or not, get The Fragile anyway. The latter is the best NIN album but not the best introduction to his music.

[repcak]

i would recommend the '...and all that could have been' cd... i started with this one :thumb:

its a 'best of' and its :shock: even live

[BlindWriting]

In conclusion, either of those two. I'm assuming TDS will be cheaper since it isn't two discs, which may be a deciding factor as well.
If he gets the deluxe TDS, the price might end up being about the same.

[JaKz]

absolute killer album, right where it belongs is so depressing...

[BlindWriting]

Only was released into Garageband format. Just downloaded it. I made a THTF remix, and I can't wait to get started on this one.

[magicaltrollII]

absolute killer album, right where it belongs is so depressing...
Do you listen to their other stuff as well?
They have stuff WAY more depressing.

[Sleeper]

Do you listen to their other stuff as well?
They have stuff WAY more depressing.
Something i can never have is really depressing.

[Sleeper]

absolute killer album, right where it belongs is so depressing...
I expected that album to be way more industrial.

[magicaltrollII]

Something i can never have is really depressing.
Yeah...
Thats my all time favorite NIN song... It's just perfect.

[Lateralias]

I just watched Man on Fire and couldn't help to notice The Mark Has Been Made in bits and peices in this movie... I think the beginning of The Great Below was even in there. Gave the movie a good vibe.

[Magicaltroll]

I just watched Man on Fire and couldn't help to notice The Mark Has Been Made in bits and peices in this movie... I think the beginning of The Great Below was even in there. Gave the movie a good vibe.
Yeah, when I eard that I was like "WHOAH!!! WTF?>!"
It was awesome

W00T!!! I'm unbanned!

[Lateralias]

Yeah, when I eard that I was like "WHOAH!!! WTF?>!"
It was awesome

W00T!!! I'm unbanned!

Congrats :)

[vashts80]

I wanna see NIN soo bad (11/05 in Philly, 3 days after my birthday)

But Gigantour tickets cost $160 and my vacation to Disneyworld from 10/18 to 10/25 is $3000 (birthday present)

If Gigantour cost $160, NIN will probably cost double that (Considering Gigantour is in the 2200 seat House of Blues in Atlantic City and NIN is in the 20000 or so seat Wachovia Spectrum)

[nrvn55]

I wanna see NIN soo bad (11/05 in Philly, 3 days after my birthday)

But Gigantour tickets cost $160 and my vacation to Disneyworld from 10/18 to 10/25 is $3000 (birthday present)

If Gigantour cost $160, NIN will probably cost double that (Considering Gigantour is in the 2200 seat House of Blues in Atlantic City and NIN is in the 20000 or so seat Wachovia Spectrum)

gigantour costs that much because of the amount of headlining bands. nin will cost between 45 and up (depending on seats).

[repcak]

W00T!!! I'm unbanned!

unbanned? wasn't it the lyrics you wanna discuss from cannibal corpse - addicted to vaginal skin that you got banned? :lol:

and congratulations :thumb:

[Magicaltroll]

unbanned? wasn't it the lyrics you wanna discuss from cannibal corpse - addicted to vaginal skin that you got banned? :lol:

and congratulations :thumb:
Yeah, haha.
I thought it was funny... But Superpeer didn't like them.

And I didn't find out they were from Cannibal Corpse until like yesterday, my friend told me he wrote them :evil:

[repcak]

My sister is seeing right now NIN in spain/barcelona.... :upset: i would like to see them once again ... :D
but its not open air... and it is sold out... so imagine how hot it is in spain in summer + the heat in a closed room, full of people at a concert :amaze: (suicide)

so ... i am happy not to be there (without 3litres of water) :lol:

[Magicaltroll]

My sister is seeing right now NIN in spain/barcelona.... :upset: i would like to see them once again ... :D
but its not open air... and it is sold out... so imagine how hot it is in spain in summer + the heat in a closed room, full of people at a concert :amaze: (suicide)

so ... i am happy not to be there (without 3litres of water) :lol:
Who cares?!
It's NIN.

Man... I really wish I had some money to go to a concert of them. And I wish they'd come to Vegas again.

[SmashingPumpkin]

Ah, NIN are awesome. Just recently started getting into them. I only have "Pretty Hate Machine", "The Downward Spiral" and "With Teeth."

My favorite album is probably Pretty Hate Machine though. I love "Something I Can Never Have" and "Head Like a Hole."

[Sleeper]

Ah, NIN are awesome. Just recently started getting into them. I only have "Pretty Hate Machine", "The Downward Spiral" and "With Teeth."

My favorite album is probably Pretty Hate Machine though. I love "Something I Can Never Have" and "Head Like a Hole."
I suggest you get The Fragile, A amazing album.

[SmashingPumpkin]

I suggest you get The Fragile, A amazing album.
Hey, thanks for the suggestion! I was looking into getting that CD, but I haven't heard much from it. What are some good songs from it that I can check out?

[Shady Ultima]

A local radio station is having a contest and you can be sent to go see NIN in TOKYO! Wouldn't that be sweet? That's on the other side of the world from me (southern ontario, canada) and Nine Inch Nails are amazing.

I really like the song Hurt, and Closer is great too.

[Sleeper]

Hey, thanks for the suggestion! I was looking into getting that CD, but I haven't heard much from it. What are some good songs from it that I can check out?

Listen to:

Star****ers
Somewhat Damaged
Even Deeper
Were in this together

Those are some good songs from that album.

[repcak]

Heresy
Terrieble Lie
Star****ers
Wish, Gave Up
The Day the World went away
The Becoming
Help me i am in hell
The Ruiner
The Becoming...

there are too many



EDIT: oh you meant songs from The Fragile... ups
Somewhat Damaged
the Day the world went away
La Mer
We are in this together
Into the void
-> Get the album :thumb: The_Fragile is great

[heavy metal kid]

Heresy
Terrieble Lie
Star****ers
Wish, Gave Up
The Day the World went away
The Becoming
Help me i am in hell
The Ruiner
The Becoming...

there are too many

those and

were in this togheter
the frail.

[SmashingPumpkin]

Thanks to everyone! *runs off to listen*

[repcak]

or get the 'Still' album ... it is great.... i am listen to it right now.... adrift and at peace (the piano...so wonderful)

ps.: if there is an interest in the 'Still' album (cause you can't buy it in a music-store - you can get it only through the nin-homepage)
i can upload it... if there is interest of course!
so my question: who don't have the 'Still' album, don't have the possibility to get and wanna have it??

[PeEpHoLe_10]

*Bump*

I spent $80 on a ticket to go see NIN in August the other day, and since then I've been wondering what the atmosphere at NIN shows is generally like. Anyone care to fill me in?

What show are you going to man?
I spent $80 on a ticket the other day too.Without hardly even knowing their music that well. My mate loves them,thats why im going lol. I just hope they play The Great Below, i love that song.

[Magicaltroll]

WTF people? Isn't ANYONE excited about the new tourdates/ticket sales?

I'm buying my tickets on July 16th, and I'm going with my boyfriend. I can't wait, I just hope more than anything that I can get them. I have money and everything! I've been saving up.
I would go, but they're not coming here :'(

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

With Teeth sucks... thank god its a varied set list

[Magicaltroll]

With Teeth sucks... thank god its a varied set list
Yeah... You're drunk :p
With Teeth really wasn't that bad at all. In my opinion.

[funk_metalguitarist]

I bought 'And all that could have been' today. It's probably the best live cd I've heard. Some tracks sound much better live than studio versions IMO.

[deadinholywood]

Yep and all that could have been is about the best live album that i have heard... Go get the DVD of it its amazing

[Six Foot Revolver]

I really liked With Teeth and could possibly even go far enough to say it is my favourite Nine Inch Nails album

[repcak]

I really liked With Teeth and could possibly even go far enough to say it is my favourite Nine Inch Nails album

i wouldn't say it is the best, but i like it ... a lot of people who heard it were disappointed (and 5years ago they were disappointed about the fragile, cause the hoped trent will make a 2nd the downward spiral)
now they all are disappointed about with_teeth and i can't understand that... its a great record. i am sure that in 2years everybody will like it... c'mon with_teeth is something new, a new sound a new feeling. trent reznor is 40yrs old and he changed; he lives another life than 5yrs ago and therefore you can't expect anohter TDS-record

[Six Foot Revolver]

i wouldn't say it is the best, but i like it ... a lot of people who heard it were disappointed (and 5years ago they were disappointed about the fragile, cause the hoped trent will make a 2nd the downward spiral)
now they all are disappointed about with_teeth and i can't understand that... its a great record. i am sure that in 2years everybody will like it... c'mon with_teeth is something new, a new sound a new feeling. trent reznor is 40yrs old and he changed; he lives another life than 5yrs ago and therefore you can't expect anohter TDS-record
I thought The Fragile was really good too. Oh well, different strokes for different folks

[Benzum]

I don't understand why this band are so popular, their new material, or at least what I've heard of it, was pretty terrible to be honest, nothing special about it at all.....strange music videos though :D

[repcak]

The Fragile is a masterpiece, but when it was released a lot of fans were disappointed, as how fans are now with with_teeth.

time will tell, how people will think in a few years

[funk_metalguitarist]

Sounds cool, I will check em out.

[PeEpHoLe_10]

Saw these guys last night in Sydney. They put on a great show,energetic and flawless. Wasnt too happy with the set list though. Missed out on heaps of songs i was hoping to see. The mosh was actually fairly rough, i decided to get out and sit down i was that ****ed. Lol, im soft. Anyone else go?

[Darth Sidious]

I saw them in Melbourne. Although I only had seats, it was really really awesome.

My first concert too. :)

[PeEpHoLe_10]

Nice first concert to go too. Mine was APC last year. Did they play 'The Great Below' At Melbourne? I really really wanted to see that live. Also, I wanted to see 'We're in this together' too. There was too much stuff from With Teeth in there.

[Werny]

I saw them in Melbourne. Although I only had seats, it was really really awesome.

My first concert too. :)

I could've gone but Mum didn't let me since I don't know the guy I'd be staying with.

And the fact that I was only informed about it a day before the concert (someone came to school and says "oh I'm not going to see NIN, want my ticket?").

Arg. It would've been my first concert, ah well.

PS. My friend got Trent's guitar pick.

[G_Mac07]

I'm seeing them tomorrow night in Brisbane. I've been waiting so long for this, I can't wait!

EDIT: Who opened at the shows you guys saw. I think I saw two bands listed to play 2 shows each. In Brisbane we get The Hollow, so if anyones seen them, would they care to inform me on what they are like?

[repcak]

PS. My friend got Trent's guitar pick.

i got the guitarstring from the guitarist and i had the neck in my hands too; for about 10-15min, but i lost the fight

[Reywas]

Can someone upload Fixed or FDTS?I seem to be missing those.

[deadinholywood]

Nice first concert to go too. Mine was APC last year. Did they play 'The Great Below' At Melbourne? I really really wanted to see that live. Also, I wanted to see 'We're in this together' too. There was too much stuff from With Teeth in there.

This is the set list from Melbourne:
wish
sin
line begins to blur
march of the pigs
something i can never have
hand that feeds
with teeth
terrible lie
burn
closer
reptile
home
the frail
the wretched
dead souls
suck
love is not enough
the day the world went away
gave up
hurt
you know what you are
star ****ers
head like a hole

It rocked my socks however they didnt play la mer or just like you imagined which are easily my 2 favourite NIN songs... oh well we got reptile. God i know why they have been called the best live band in the world, they were just incredible!

[Darth Sidious]

You know what you are is AWESOME live.

[PeEpHoLe_10]

I'm seeing them tomorrow night in Brisbane. I've been waiting so long for this, I can't wait!

EDIT: Who opened at the shows you guys saw. I think I saw two bands listed to play 2 shows each. In Brisbane we get The Hollow, so if anyones seen them, would they care to inform me on what they are like?


Well, The Follow opened at the show i was at. You probably just finished seeing them right at this point so my thoughts on them would be useless, but still i thought they were okay. They had some really cool songs, but some prett average ones too. And i got very turned off when the singer said ' My voice has been kinda broken lately cos im sick, and so has my heart,this songs called No Romance".

Also, how different does Trent look with a shaved head?I couldnt get over it. And how frickin muscley is he.

[repcak]

Also, how different does Trent look with a shaved head?I couldnt get over it. And how frickin muscley is he.

what?? shaved head??!! do you have a picture? wanna see it ...

[quick_death]

i love nin but they were terrible live when i saw them

[repcak]

well, with this haircut he looks not like the 'former' trent reznor, its weird, but its ok.
he looks much younger now. like a 20year old singer from a punk-band :D but its still trent reznor.

hm.. maybe their hairshampoo was over and they told trent... cut your hairs or your long hairs will get fatty :D

@med57: you are right... not enough TDS-songs

[G_Mac07]

The show last night was ****ing brilliant. I'm so glad I got to finally see them. I couldn't believe how Trent looked when he first came on stage though, I really wasn't expecting a shaved head. It was also kinda funny watching a rather muscular looking guy sing Hurt. Anyway, it was awesome.

btw, The Follow were really average as an opening band I thought. And I disliked the vocalist a lot. It seemed as though he was trying way to hard to have any stage presence, and it didn't come off naturally at all.

[Vandle]

I saw NIN in Sydney on the Friday night, was a excellent show, The Bass line for "With Teeth" is awesome!

Luckily 'The followed' didnt open on friday night, I saw them at the Excelsior hotel and they were CRAP! except for one song.

[G_Mac07]

I went to The Official NIN After Party last night as well, and its was pretty good. Until the Surprise act turned out to be The Follow :lol:

[PeEpHoLe_10]

Haha,yeah The Follow, i think COULD be a decent band. They have some potential. The lead guitarist had a few cool little solo things going on and there were some okay songs,but a fair few bad ones too.

[borisdablade]

i wouldn't say it is the best, but i like it ... a lot of people who heard it were disappointed (and 5years ago they were disappointed about the fragile, cause the hoped trent will make a 2nd the downward spiral)
now they all are disappointed about with_teeth and i can't understand that... its a great record. i am sure that in 2years everybody will like it... c'mon with_teeth is something new, a new sound a new feeling. trent reznor is 40yrs old and he changed; he lives another life than 5yrs ago and therefore you can't expect anohter TDS-record

I agree with this to an extent, but I have allowed been able to appreciate some of the songs on with teeth after seeing them performed live. Love is not enough, the line begins to blur, you know what you are and THTF were all brilliant live. Witha Teetha is still kind of stupid, but then again so was big man with a gun...maybe its the album's sense of humour. Nonetheless there are still some songs that i just can not get into because of the lyrics, the collector and sunspots as well as all the love in the world spring to mind immediately.

BTW was anyone at the second Sydney show? ****ing brilliant stuff...even though i missed the first 45mins because of traffic :upset:

[PeEpHoLe_10]

^^^
Yeah i was there. I practiacally missed the first 45 minutes of the show because of me being in the 'pit'. I spent more attention on trying to stay standing up rather then watching the show. I eventually went and sat down though.

[dr._feelgood]

nice review man

[repcak]

i read the review and its fantastic. great work.
after turning off the computer i will take my TDS cd and will listen to it once more. you mentioned things i haven't seen before.

ps.: i am making a website (about me) and on the top of it, you will be able to read 2 lines: "god is dead and no one cares, if there is a hell i'll see you there" -nin/heresy. its one of my favourites nin-lyrics ever. i love it.

[Kendal]

I love that song " The Hand that Feeds."

[deadinholywood]

i read the review and its fantastic. great work.
after turning off the computer i will take my TDS cd and will listen to it once more. you mentioned things i haven't seen before.

ps.: i am making a website (about me) and on the top of it, you will be able to read 2 lines: "god is dead and no one cares, if there is a hell i'll see you there" -nin/heresy. its one of my favourites nin-lyrics ever. i love it.

Check this link for an interesting take on the end of the downward spiral
http://www.echoingthesound.org/phpbbx/viewtopic.php?p=364863&highlight=#364863
the guy who wrote it asked Trent if his idea was correct at the meet and greet at the recent sydney concert and Trent said he was pretty much spot on.... Interesting!

Current favourite NIN Lyric is from The Wretched
The clouds will part and the sky cracks open
And god himself will reach his ****ing arm
Through
Just to push you down
Just to hold you down

[repcak]

wow that's really interesting.

yesterday after reading the review of med57 i listened to TDS once again. i released that the melody of the downward spiral and hurt is similar: in tds-song is divided in 3parts -> 1) sad melody 2) after 2min the melody gets "happier" and afterwards trents shouts and you hear the lyrics. ok; when you remember the two (first!) notes of the piano and play hurt you will hear the two notes again!
its weird,only two notes. i heard the two songs hundred of times and never realised this.

[Reywas]

wow that's really interesting.

yesterday after reading the review of med57 i listened to TDS once again. i released that the melody of the downward spiral and hurt is similar: in tds-song is divided in 3parts -> 1) sad melody 2) after 2min the melody gets "happier" and afterwards trents shouts and you hear the lyrics. ok; when you remember the two (first!) notes of the piano and play hurt you will hear the two notes again!
its weird,only two notes. i heard the two songs hundred of times and never realised this.

When I recently listened to TDS (song) I realised the melody is kinda familliar to me.Are you sure It's because of Hurt.

[Magicaltroll]

NP-Hurt

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

I love that song " The Hand that Feeds."

I despise it. I wish they would write songs like they did on The Fragile and The DOwnward Spiral. 90s rock is better than 80s New Wave!!!

[LedZeppFan83]

- They are really talented, I like the songs "Closer", "Perfect Drug", and "Something I Can Never Have".

[Magicaltroll]

I despise it. I wish they would write songs like they did on The Fragile and The DOwnward Spiral. 90s rock is better than 80s New Wave!!!
But he's off drugs now, and he also doesn't have that pure self-hatred he used to.

So... What I got from this whole thing is...

Self-Hating, Anorexic, Druggie > Buff, Happy, Straight Edge guy

[Kage]

When I recently listened to TDS (song) I realised the melody is kinda familliar to me.Are you sure It's because of Hurt.
No, it's because there's a motif shared between TDS, the song, and Closer. Listen closer (punzzlolz) and you'll recognize it.


I despise it. I wish they would write songs like they did on The Fragile and The DOwnward Spiral. 90s rock is better than 80s New Wave!!!
Eh, most of the album isn't like that at all. He went in a different direction, and he'll also go in a different direction in future material. I did prefer his operatic concept albums more, but With Teeth is no less a great CD. The Fragile was an achievment he should never try to replicate anyway, because he won't be able to.

[PeEpHoLe_10]

After seeing these guys live my love for them has really started to grow.

[gram]

I am going to see nine inch nails on november 17 in calgary. can anyone give me an idea how good their live show is and what I am in for?

[repcak]

But he's off drugs now, and he also doesn't have that pure self-hatred he used to.

So... What I got from this whole thing is...

Self-Hating, Anorexic, Druggie > Buff, Happy, Straight Edge guy

hm, yes, but listen to the last song of the with teeth record. the last words he is saying is: "but its still in me". i think he is happy, he "won" the fight against his depressions etc. but he know exactly, that you can't erase 30years of your life. his whole life he hated himself and only in the last few years its got better and better, but for how long?!
once he said in an interview (short before the tour) that the tour-life is a different one than the life at home. he wasn't sure if he will be able to stay off drugs. so, we will see in what a condition he will be when the wt-tour will be over.

I am going to see nine inch nails on november 17 in calgary. can anyone give me an idea how good their live show is and what I am in for?

november the 17th? wow... one day after my 20th birhtday :D !! to the show: you won't be disappointed. his shows are ****ing great, i saw them on june 14th and it was the best concert i saw in my life. its a very intensive experience.

[gram]

november the 17th? wow... one day after my 20th birhtday :D !! to the show: you won't be disappointed. his shows are ****ing great, i saw them on june 14th and it was the best concert i saw in my life. its a very intensive experience.[/QUOTE]


well happy belated birthday then haha...alright thanks...anything else you can think of that I should look forward to please do so tell me. and plus queens of the stone age(fav band) will be there as well! :D

[PeEpHoLe_10]

^^^
If you can, get right up the front. Reznor (as far as i know) always goes into the crowd for the end of Piggy and holds the mic out for someone in the crowd to sing. That would rule. And also, when i saw then a week ago tonight he threw his guitar into the crowd.


*Welcomes self to thousands life,lol*

[repcak]

yeah, first row will be great. i was 3rd row at the concert: 2metres beside me he throw his black dean guitar into the crowd and the guitarist destroyed his red fender ot the last song (gave up) and throw the guitar-neck into my direction; i had it in my hands, but about 7other fans wanted the neck too, so i got only the g-string :D :D

but be aware: to be in the first row is really hard. i even wanted to go away after 3 songs, cause i really thought i will die there. everybody from behind is pushing you forward and for a short time i couldn't breathe. so if you are strong and tall go for the first row, if you are weak and small think of it twice.

@peephole_10: i never heard that trent is going to the peoples and let someone sing along... it wasn't the case at my concert; but they didn't play 'piggy' :upset:
to the destroyd instruments: he destroyed (at my concert) 5micros; 3guitars, 2keybords and hundreds of waterbottels :D

[G_Mac07]

We didn't get a huge amount of destruction at the concert I saw. But then again, I'm willing to say the crowd didn't really deserve it. The crowd just didn't react to some songs, which really dissappointed me. Anyway, half through a song (I can't remember what, but it came just before Star****ers) the guitarist fell into the drum kit, taking out like 2/3's of it, before jumping back up and proclaiming "Whoops!". It was pretty funny, even though he ruined the song, and had to disappear for 3 tracks after that. He did a great job smashing his guitar at the end as well.

As for Trent, he didn't smash any guitars, but after the couple of whacks he delivered to one it wouldn't have been too healthy. A few mics were lost though, and I nearly got the Tamborine he smashed but I missed out by like two places. :upset:

[placidthought]

Going to see 'em with QOTSA (my favorite band) in Rosemont, IL...Great reason to skip school.

[repcak]

when i was 10 i got a keyboard for christmas; i played it for 2weeks and then never again.
one hour ago i found it in the loft; i start to play 'a warm place' on the keyboard. i always played guitar and never thought that playing piano is so great and nin-songs sounds greater when playing it on piano than on guitar... :D

any of you is playing piano??

[deadinholywood]

We didn't get a huge amount of destruction at the concert I saw. But then again, I'm willing to say the crowd didn't really deserve it. The crowd just didn't react to some songs, which really dissappointed me. Anyway, half through a song (I can't remember what, but it came just before Star****ers) the guitarist fell into the drum kit, taking out like 2/3's of it, before jumping back up and proclaiming "Whoops!". It was pretty funny, even though he ruined the song, and had to disappear for 3 tracks after that. He did a great job smashing his guitar at the end as well.

As for Trent, he didn't smash any guitars, but after the couple of whacks he delivered to one it wouldn't have been too healthy. A few mics were lost though, and I nearly got the Tamborine he smashed but I missed out by like two places. :upset:

Yeah in Melbourne the crowd was really bad, when they played songs like burn and dead souls all the people near me in the pit were like 'what is this?'
Aaron North is a gun on the guitar and extremely entertaining to watch he jumped off the keyboards towards the end of the concert almost taking them and himself out, then at the end of HLAH he threw his guitar against the amps on the side of the stage which bounced off and almost took one of the guys doing security.
Great Show but not much damage!

[HeyPetray]

The Fragile was what solidified NIN for me. I love every song on the entire album and I'd still put it above TDS just because of nostalgic and sentimental values. Anywho, I'm going to see NIN at Arco Arena in Sacramento CA on sep 28th.. anybody else going to the same show? :)

[G_Mac07]

I looked back on your guys' setlists, and made it into a winamp playlist. I'm so ready for this concert.

Looks like I'm not the only one who does that :cool:

[PeEpHoLe_10]

I looked back on your guys' setlists, and made it into a winamp playlist. I'm so ready for this concert.

Hehe good work. I regreat not doing something like that. Before the show i went to i was only firmiliar with around half/ three quaters of their songs but i didnt even really know them that well. So at the show there were a heap of songs i didnt even know. Id really like to see them again, now that i know most of their stuff fairly well.

[mr black]

It always go's like that doesn't it haha, They're awsome live.

[repcak]

two days ago i got from a friend (who is a big nin-fan too) a nin-cd i never heard of.
its inofficial... a bootleg or something like that.
the first song is we're in this together, followed by a song i never heard before (although i have all nin-albums!!!) and then the perfect drug; but the cd is not a compilation.

edit:
4th song: something i can never have (live) ... its amazing; hm... and its not the '...And all that could have been'-version.... its another one. at the end of it you hear people clapping in their hands. i suppose it had to be played in a club or something.

5th song: the day the world went away. once again a version i never heard.

6th song: hurt
it seems that all the songs (except of the first 3) were played in a small club, cause you hear people clapping at end of every song.

7th song: even deeper... incl. background singing (some women)

8th song: the big come down
9th song: the fragile
10th song: hurt ... once again... strange :confused:

[thats it. no more songs]

ps.: i'm listening to it right now, so i will add the songs that will follow next.

does anyone know more?!

[Jawaharal]

its on iTunes I think

[repcak]

bump

no one? where are the Nine Inch Nails fans....?

[Kage]

Is there a name on the CD or anything?

[repcak]

no nothing. it was copied from a friend, who got a copy... but he wrote 'live in chrcapo/chicapo' or something like that (unless i can't decode his writting...)

maybe its chicago... yeah... thats possible: live in chicago

[Kage]

Ok, well the last half of the CD (tracks 4-10) is the CRC sessions, which was an acoustic show performed live in Chicago. The firs three, I guess, were just extra songs your friend put on there. Anyway, that's a great show I listen to it a lot.

[hookers_with_herpes]

The Fragile was what solidified NIN for me. I love every song on the entire album and I'd still put it above TDS just because of nostalgic and sentimental values.

The Fragile is what turned me off about NIN. I guess I've always been a sucker for Pretty hate Machine.

[repcak]

Ok, well the last half of the CD (tracks 4-10) is the CRC sessions, which was an acoustic show performed live in Chicago. The firs three, I guess, were just extra songs your friend put on there. Anyway, that's a great show I listen to it a lot.

thanks. but its strange that on the cd there is 'hurt' twice ... or did they played it on the CRC sessions twice too? i suppose not, am i right?

and its still unknown what the 2nd song is. i never heard it and it doesn't sound like it will be a typically nin-song... its soooo different... to much electronic. maybe i can upload it someday.

[Kage]

Yeah, they actually played Hurt twice in the show...they called them Hurt (Take One) and Hurt (Take Two). My guess is that they were unhappy with the first performance, or they just felt like ending on Hurt. Who knws? I love the live performance of Even Deeper though :).

Can you give any lyrics for the unknown song, maybe? I might be able to identifiy it.

[repcak]

Yeah, they actually played Hurt twice in the show...they called them Hurt (Take One) and Hurt (Take Two). My guess is that they were unhappy with the first performance, or they just felt like ending on Hurt. Who knws? I love the live performance of Even Deeper though :).

Can you give any lyrics for the unknown song, maybe? I might be able to identifiy it.

hehe... maybe the played hurt twice cause the TDS end with hurt too ... who knows. the performance of even deeper is amazing... i love it too!

wait a minute i can give you the lyrics ... i have to search for the cd... but i doubt you will identify it. i never heard this song... is neither from one of his albums nor from a soundtrack to a movie...

[repcak]

lyrics:
'give it to me (long pause)
and real (i'm not sure... it was too quiet)
give it to me, give it to me

make it stop

give it to me, give it to me, yeah take it.
desert, desert, desert (very quiet with an echo-effect)
give it to me.

give it to me, give it to me, give it to me, etc.
make it stop,
make it stop,
make it stop.'

its more a techno or drum'n'bass song than industrial!! i think someone took the voice of trent reznor (from some songs) and sampled it on the computer with his own musical-theme. this will explain why the lyrics are so simple.

[Kage]

It's possible that someone did the sampling, like you said. "Give it to me" is a lyric from Gave Up; "make it stop," is also a line from Please. Who knows, maybe someone just cut up those lines from those songs and made his own remix. Then again, those lyrics also remind me of Complications of the Flesh, but I don't know about the "desert" part.

[repcak]

maybe it's not desert... it was to quiet!
what did the song remind you? complications of the flesh? never heard of it....

[Jawaharal]

w00t!!!
I'm seeing the nails with Queens of the stone age on Nov. 2
\m/ \m/
It's gonna be fuçking awesome!!

[Kage]

Yeah, Complications of the Flesh. The lyrics are simply:
"Give to me
I can take it

Make it stop."


AH! I figured out what it is. It's one of the discs from Halo 15, which is a single of We're in This Together Now:

1. WITTN
2. Complications of the Flesh
3. The Perfect Drug

So, basically, your CD is "Halo 15 + The CRC Sessions."

[repcak]

i don't know this song... it isn't from an album, isn't it?

edit: halo15... yeah... possible... i think you're right, thats it!! thanks :D

i have found a nice write-up about the session [Link (http://www.sickamongthepure.com/files/2002/04/CRCSessions/CRCSessions.html)]

[Sleeper]

I'm thinking about getting the albums Broken and Fixed , are they worth the buy?

[Kage]

If you're a big Nine Inch Nails fan, they certainly are, especially since each should be relatively cheap. Broken is my least favorite NIN record, and probably the only major release, except With Teeth, that I can say has songs I dislike. This is contradictory to most people, though, as Broken seems to often be a fan favorite. It's harder and rawer, but it's a nice placeholder between PHM and TDS.

In short...go for it, unless you have yet to purchase one of the four full albums, in which case I recommend completing that collection first.

[bwnstl]

Broken is well worth whatever money you pay to buy it. Fixed is only worth it if you're a hardcore fan who has to have every Halo release.

[dr._feelgood]

I really need to pick up the Fragile, I heard it's amazing.

[Kage]

It is. One of my favorite albums of all time, and certainly my favorite NIN record. It proves that Reznor really is a genius of composition.

[Killtacular]

I really need to pick up The Fragile, I heard it's amazing.

I spit on you for not having it already.

/pah-tooey

It's that good.

[LOAfan]

I was wondering, is the house in "Gave Up" the Sharon Tate house? I asked this once as it's own thread and no one knew. thanks

[repcak]

i remember your thread.
i never saw the video to 'gave up', but its possible, because trent moved to the house right after 'broken' and short before recording TDS.... maybe Kage will know.

[Kage]

Yes, the Gave Up video was filmed in the Tate house. I guess that was just after they moved in there, though I'm not sure the exact date that the video was shot. Manson looks like such a loser playing guitar in that video :p

[Neoteric]

I really need to pick up the Fragile, I heard it's amazing.
Nah, not really.

[LOAfan]

Manson looks like such a loser playing guitar in that video :p

lol, I agree. I'm a big Manson fan, but yeahhhh...lol

[Kage]

You know, I used to think that I liked With Teeth.






Then I listened to it in surround sound.

[Sleeper]

Nah, not really.
Why don't you like it?

[dr._feelgood]

I didn't like With Teeth at all. It just sounded like a bunch of synthesized noise half the album.

[repcak]

wow... great songs... but i can't see "something i can never have" (my favourite NIN-song)

wish and right afterwards terrieble lie :thumb: ... but he should have played march of the pigs right after :lol:

[Shadows]

Most of those are songs I'm not familiar with and the rest are from With Teeth. I guess it could be a good setlist if you're a With Teeth fan, which I am. I would love to see more stuff from The Fragile though.

[Jawaharal]

Oh god. I just saw them last night here in Seattle. It was ****ING AMAZING.

Here's what they played:

Pinion
Wish
Terrible Lie
The Line Begins to Blur
March of the Pigs
You Know What You Are
Burn
Gave Up
Eraser
Right Where it Belongs
Only
Closer
(A new song that they haven't released yet)
Love is Not Enough
Hurt
The Hand That Feeds
Star****ers, Inc.
Head Like A Hole

That was it in order, as much to my memory as possible. I had a totally clear view of Trent and Twiggy.. and Trent was lookin very sexy. Oh man, it was one of the best concerts I've ever been to.
Too bad they didn't play getting smaller. I'm seeing them in november with queens of the stone age

[repcak]

i just realised (after looking back at my concerts setlist) that they are playing always the same songs... nearly.

my setlist (14th june)
Pinion
The Frail
The Wretched
Wish
Sin
The Line Begins To Blur
March Of The Pigs
Something I Can Never Have
Hand That Feeds
Terrible Lie
Closer
Love Is Not Enough
home
Burn
?
You Know What You Are?
Suck
Gave Up
Hurt
Dead Souls
Star****ers Inc.
Head Like A Hole

[Shadows]

i just realised (after looking back at my concerts setlist) that they are playing always the same songs... nearly.

my setlist (14th june)
That's kind of how it works. They make up a setlist and play the same songs at every show. The order may change, but the songs are the same.

[repcak]

yeah, but they could vary it more... put more songs from the fragile on!!

isn't it boring for them to play every ****ing evening the same songs ?!

edit: and they always end with star****ers, followed by head like a hole

[Shadows]

It can get boring, it just depends on how they feel about their music. Further motivation to put out the best stuff possible.

I agree, they should've played more Fragile stuff. But for a band like NIN who has millions of songs released, it can get challenging to keep their playing of every song sharp. With a defined setlist, they can relearn the selected songs and not have to keep their entire discorgraphy fresh in their minds.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Today, I finally broke down and bought a NIN album. I picked up The Downward Spiral from Borders for 15 bucks. So far, I am glad I did. :-D I'm also kind of kicking myself for not seeing NIN a few days ago. :p

As it stands at the moment, my favorite song is Closer, probably just because I'm so familiar with the song.

[Shadows]

Closer is a very memorable song. I also love Hurt, Mr. Self Destruct, and Ruiner.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I just listened to A Warm Place. Talk about atmospheric. :p So, TDS is a concept album right? Anyone wanna explain to me what it's about?

[BlindWriting]

I just listened to A Warm Place. Talk about atmospheric. :p So, TDS is a concept album right? Anyone wanna explain to me what it's about?
It's about the gradual destruction of an unstable mind.

Mr. Self Destruction is pretty much an introduction to the concept. Heresy is him giving up religion. The Downward Spiral is his suicide. Hurt is him reflecting on his life after he kills himself. And so on.

Wow, it's been a while since I've been in here.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Similair to Dark Side of the Moon, then? Well, plus drugs, heh. :p

Thanks for the info, I always seem to appreciate music even more when I know the story and meaning behind it.

[Shadows]

It basically follows the life of a person as they fall through a "downward spiral" you could say. Each song tells of a stage that person goes through. He first rejects God (Heresy) and goes on to reject society (March of the Pigs). That person tries to turn to drugs/alcohol/prostitution (Reptile) to remedy the problems, but in the end finds that suicide is the only answer (Hurt).

That's just a quick summary. Each song tells of a slightly different stage. I think the way the concept progresses and each song fits it is brilliance.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I can definitely hear how Reptile is the apex of chaos. So far, I'm already really feeling this album. :)

[Shadows]

It is indeed an incredible album. I prefer the Fragile, but right now I feel like puuling this out again. :)

[BlindWriting]

Are you listening to it for the first time?

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I sure am.

I like the outro riff to Closer reemerges in TDS. It sounds so sad on an acoustic.

[Shadows]

I can't believe you waited so long to break down and buy the album! :eek:

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

It's been on my "to-buy" list for about 4 months, surprisingly. :p

I'm now watching the DVD side of TDS. Creepy music video for Closer. :-/

[BlindWriting]

Wow, I'm honestly surprised that you hadn't heard the Downward Spiral before today.

That theme does pop up a lot in the album. So wait, which tracks on TDS hadn't you heard before?

Oh and yeah, the Closer video is just brilliant.

[heavy metal kid]

TDS is my fav. NIN album, somehow every song fits perfectly(even march of the pigs).
Cool concept also.

[Shadows]

Wait, TDS came with a DVD side??

[heavy metal kid]

^^Some versions(deluxe editions).

[BlindWriting]

There was the 20th Anniversary Edition with the remastered album, as well as a bonus disc of remixes, demos, and other tracks.

The other newer edition was a Dualdisc with the remastered album and the DVD side, which is what Jake got, I guess.


EDIT:
10th Anniversary Edition**.

[Shadows]

I got mine last year. I don't think it had all of that sweet stuff. :(

[BlindWriting]

I have the 10th Anniversary Edition, the first one I mentioned.

First NIN album, awesome stuff. Most of the time I tend to prefer The Fragile to TDS, but that's constantly subject to change.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

BlindWriting- Before today, I'd only heard Closer.

Also, I bought the DualDisc 10 year anniversarray edition. There was some kind of "zomg d-lux edishun" but it was 27 bucks, so I went with the cheaper one. :p

NP: Heresy

[Kage]

BlindWriting- Before today, I'd only heard Closer.

Also, I bought the DualDisc 10 year anniversarray edition. There was some kind of "zomg d-lux edishun" but it was 27 bucks, so I went with the cheaper one. :p

NP: Heresy
Good choice. The surround-sound mix of that CD is...just amazing. Actually, relatively speaking, the one of With Teeth is even better.

[bwnstl]

I have the 20th Anniversary Edition, the first one I mentioned.

First NIN album, awesome stuff. Most of the time I tend to prefer The Fragile to TDS, but that's constantly subject to change.

I hadn't realized TDS has been out since 1985.....

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

The Fragile is loaded with great songs... But concept-wise you can't beat TDS. I'm still trying to give With Teeth a try, but I only like a few songs on there. Also, The Hand That Feeds is an unbelievably annoying song with an even more annoying meaning.

[Kage]

The Fragile is loaded with great songs... But concept-wise you can't beat TDS. I'm still trying to give With Teeth a try, but I only like a few songs on there. Also, The Hand That Feeds is an unbelievably annoying song with an even more annoying meaning.
:lol: True about THTF. I don't mind it within the album, but as a song itself...yeah, no good.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

RUINER is so underrated. I think that's the best song on TDS. It has this awesome distorted guitar solo (or at least I think it is).

[Kage]

I love Ruiner. That and The Becoming are undoubtedly my favorites from TDS. Those seem to be the least-talked about, though.

[Killtacular]

I really don't care too much for With Teeth.

Eraser owns, as far as The Downward Spiral goes.

[BlindWriting]

I hadn't realized TDS has been out since 1985.....
Gah! Crap. 10th Anniversary.

Apologies to everyone.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I'd like to listen to it in Surround, but my mom doesn't like the F word. :lol:

But, let me figure this out- Instead of the effects just being panned from left to right, they can move through all 4 speakers? :confused: I would love that!

[BlindWriting]

BlindWriting- Before today, I'd only heard Closer.

Also, I bought the DualDisc 10 year anniversarray edition. There was some kind of "zomg d-lux edishun" but it was 27 bucks, so I went with the cheaper one. :p

NP: Heresy:o You're saying that today was the first time you heard The Becoming and Hurt? Congrats, you'll have many listens to come.


RUINER is so underrated. I think that's the best song on TDS. It has this awesome distorted guitar solo (or at least I think it is).I love Ruiner. That and The Becoming are undoubtedly my favorites from TDS. Those seem to be the least-talked about, though.I completely agree here. The pre-chorus in Ruiner, with those layers of hyper, distorted vocals, is so, so ****ing amazing. And The Becoming is easily one of my favorite NIN songs period.

[Killtacular]

I love towards the end where it has that clicking sound, that reminds me of a striker.*

*striker - spring loaded device with flint and metal used to light oxy-acetylene torches, among other things.

[bwnstl]

I'm so glad so many people like The Becoming. It's one of my favorite songs by NIN, period, as well. The piano riff is just so...jarring. And immediately following it, I Do Not Want This is also one of my favorites. I think they're some of the most emotionally creepy songs I've ever heard.

[Ostrich Man]

Hurt is an awesome song too...its sort of creepy though...

[Heidi]

I'm listening to a NIN dance remix my friend made. (he's a dj)

[Grey Incision]

I'm listening to a NIN dance remix my friend made. (he's a dj)

Heidi, where are you from? just curious

Sorry everyone, i know that this post is reallllly off topic.

[G_Mac07]

Anyone know where I can get a bootleg of any of the With Teeth Tour shows?

[repcak]

i like 'The Becoming' (the screams in the background! wow) and 'The Downward Spiral' most.

how i see TDS(the song): its the song where he commits suicide. he knows thats his last few minutes in his life; he once again gets sad, depressive (you hear even his breathing)... maybe he looks back at his life and rethinks once again (for the last time) if he should kill himself.
The breathing stops and (at 1:50) the music gets happy ... for me its sounds like music for a little child (5-9yrs) cause its sounds so funny/happy. thats the moment where he decides: no i don't want to live anymore... in some seconds the whole pain will be gone! and thats why he feels relieved and smiles in the end. Afterwards he shots himself "so much blood for such a tiny hole"

/thats my interpretation of the song; what do you think about it?

[repcak]

today my own homepage went online (its in german).
-> in the category 'Bilder' you will find my photos from my NIN-conert!! i once uploaded them 3months ago, but meanwhile i re-edit them on photoshop and therefore they are in better quality now :thumb:

www.repcak.tk

[BlindWriting]

Anyone know where I can get a bootleg of any of the With Teeth Tour shows?
Actually I have one. I downloaded from some site and burned it onto a CD.

[Magicaltroll]

Actually I have one. I downloaded from some site and burned it onto a CD.
I have 3.

:D

[G_Mac07]

Anyone know where I can get a bootleg of any of the With Teeth Tour shows?

Discard this, as I've just found someone who has a bootleg of the same show I saw. :D

[repcak]

well, can anyone upload it for me?
repcak@gmx.at
thank you

edit: hey magicaltroll, haven't seen you for a long time. where have you been?

[repcak]

well, i just got a bootleg from a with_teeth concert! 'Live in Fresno 2005'

setlist_
intro (pinion)
love is not enough
you know what you are
march of the pigs
the line begins to blur
piggy
terrible lie
the collector
closer
home
burn
gave up
with teeth
even deeper
hurt
wish
the hand that feeds
star****ers inc.
head like a hole

wann have it? i can upload it, but you have to give me your email...
[the quality is not as could as at "...and all that could have been', but its still great

[bwnstl]

repcak I NEED THAT!!

bjwumr AT gmail DOT com

Thanks in advance, I will perform sexual favors on you.

[G_Mac07]

I'll take it as well. gregbyers @ gmail.com

Just out of interest, how many of you got to see Something I Can Never Have performed at the with_teeth concerts? I've seen a few setlists where it is missing.

[repcak]

i have seen 'something i can never have' live :D

to the upload. i will wait this day for some more ppl ... now you are only 2. And i will send the link to Neurotoxin too. So, tomorrow it should be uploaded...be patient

[Benzum]

I don't like them.

[G_Mac07]

Patience is of the essence.

And I was lucky enough to see Something I Can Never Have live. It was brilliant, although it didn't compare to Hurt. :D

[repcak]

for me 'Something i can never have' is the best NIN-song, though most fans say its 'hurt'.
well, i can identify with SICNH more than with hurt... maybe its only me. the songs accompany my life since i turned 15 :thumb:

äh, i have a video(live) where NIN is singing SICNH... about 70mb big. should i upload it too? its a great version :D

[G_Mac07]

I think I might have the same video. Is Trent wearing a 'Satanic Army' top? I have most of NIN's music videos if you would like any. Just ask.

And what made Hurt just that bit more amazing when I saw them live, was that there was one moment, for just a second. Where I, and I think a lot of the crowd, realised how great the moment was. I will never forget the smile that came over Trents face, before he lowered his head to hide it. It was one of the best moments of my life.

[Carn]

I hope that the next record is a bit more like The Fragile. I love TDS and WT but somehow The Fragile has done the most for me

[repcak]

I think I might have the same video. Is Trent wearing a 'Satanic Army' top? I have most of NIN's music videos if you would like any. Just ask.
yes, thats it :thumb:
yeah, would be great to get some more vids. I have the videoclip to 'closer', 'star****ers inc.' and 'I am afraid of americans' feat. David Bowie (this one is great!! Never saw Trent Reznor looking so EVIL :lol: ) and the live videos to 'Something i can never have' and 'Sin'
Any recommendations for an upload :) !?

And what made Hurt just that bit more amazing when I saw them live, was that there was one moment, for just a second. Where I, and I think a lot of the crowd, realised how great the moment was. I will never forget the smile that came over Trents face, before he lowered his head to hide it. It was one of the best moments of my life.
Maybe this was the moment we didn't have. Hurt live is amazing cause the crowd is singing along the text, but not-live i prefer SICNH. I love the version from "Natural Born Killers soundtrack"... when you have seen the movie and you hear the song afterwards ... wow... the best version i ever heard of this song. really!! :thumb:

I hope that the next record is a bit more like The Fragile. I love TDS and WT but somehow The Fragile has done the most for me
I doubt there would be another 'Fragile'; I doubt he can reach this level of songwriting once again...

[G_Mac07]

Ok here's a list of the Videos I have.

Burn
Deep
Happiness In Slavery
Head Like A Hole
Help Me I Am In Hell
Hurt
Into The Void
March Of The Pigs
Sin
Star****ers Inc.
The Day The World Went Away
The Perfect Drug
We're In This Together
Wish
Trent Renzor Interview with MTV '99

Let me know what you want, along with an e-mail address and you'll have it. :)

[repcak]

are all videos live or videoclips too?

/edit: today (its midnight) in the morning i will upload the album.

/edit2: i have the 'Still' album... wanna have it too? you can't buy/order it anymore... sold out

[G_Mac07]

Just videos mate. I'm lacking when it comes to live material.

[repcak]

ok, here is the priority list:

_must have:
Trent Renzor Interview with MTV '99
We're In This Together
Head Like A Hole
Burn
Into The Void

_don't need, but would be great if you would have time:
Deep
Hurt
March Of The Pigs
The Day The World Went Away
The Perfect Drug
Wish

well, thats a lot; but in change i can offer all nin-albums + still + CCB-unplugged (never released) + we're in this together(single) + further downward spiral + March of the Pigs(single)

[G_Mac07]

Starting Uploading now.

Thanks for the very generous return offer, but I'm stuck with download restrictions due to my college, so I'm afraid I'll only be able to take the bootleg. Thanks for the offer though.

[repcak]

ok, thank you

repcak@gmx.at

ps.: if there is another person who wanna have something, let me know :thumb:

[bwnstl]

G_Mac, could I get Burn, Help Me I Am In Hell, Hurt, March of the Pigs, Sin, TDTWWA, and the Interview?

bjwumr AT gmail DOT com

And REPCAK, could I please get that With Teeth bootleg?

[G_Mac07]

That can be arranged.

[bwnstl]

THank you very kindly.

[repcak]

yes, sure. you're add

[BlindWriting]

I just listened to With Teeth for the first time in quite a few months. I have a new appreciation for quite a few songs, like Beside You In Time.

[repcak]

Beside you in time is one of my favourites WT_songs.


WOW... i just listen to 'further downward spiral' and the version of 'Eraser' is fukcing amazing... OMFG, fantastic

[G_Mac07]

repcak, your must haves are done. I'll get you the rest sooner or later. To the other guy, same deal.

[Kage]

I just listened to With Teeth for the first time in quite a few months. I have a new appreciation for quite a few songs, like Beside You In Time.
Heck yeah, that's one of my favorite NIN songs period. I always think that record is one dimensional, then I listen to it and I realize it's really not. There are some classic songs on there. I like every song except THTF and Getting Smaller.

[repcak]

thx
when you upload 'help me i am in hell' for the other guy (i guess you do it by YSI), you can give me the link too.

/good night

[G_Mac07]

That should be everything sent out now. If I forgot anything let me know, and I'll get it to you. If somebody else wants something, post what you want along with your email and I'll foward you the links. :)

[BlindWriting]

Heck yeah, that's one of my favorite NIN songs period. I always think that record is one dimensional, then I listen to it and I realize it's really not. There are some classic songs on there. I like every song except THTF and Getting Smaller.
I agree, except I love Getting Smaller.

The only song that I don't really like on WT (but still listen to anyway) is Sunspots.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

That should be everything sent out now. If I forgot anything let me know, and I'll get it to you. If somebody else wants something, post what you want along with your email and I'll foward you the links. :)

Thanks for the Ticks and Leeches upload! It was certainly a treat to watch Danny Carey perfect such an impressively difficult drum-piece!

[repcak]

i stood up today, checked my email and there were a lot of new emails who flattered into my box last night.
thank you, thanky you... :thumb:

[Reywas]

ok, here is the priority list:

_must have:
Trent Renzor Interview with MTV '99
We're In This Together
Head Like A Hole
Burn
Into The Void

_don't need, but would be great if you would have time:
Deep
Hurt
March Of The Pigs
The Day The World Went Away
The Perfect Drug
Wish

well, thats a lot; but in change i can offer all nin-albums + still + CCB-unplugged (never released) + we're in this together(single) + further downward spiral + March of the Pigs(single)

Repcak can you forward me the links for the videos?

thomlazyeyed@yahoo.com

I'm particullary interested in We're In This Together.That's the only NIN video I haven't already seen.

Random Trivia: The Perfect Drug and The Closer videos were both directed by Mark Romanek.That's why they have a simmilar video progression.TPD is better tho.

[repcak]

hm... i tried to upload it through YSI and it failed two times... then i tried to upload it via megaupload.com and the transferrate was about 0.38kb/sec. (file size 141mb)

... have to find another way.

[repcak]

@Nobuo>>>>=God: mail with all links is send.

The videos of 'Burn', 'Head like a hole' , 'March of the Pigs', 'The Day the world went away', 'the perfect drug' and 'Wish' are fantastic musicvideos. i liked them most...especially March of the Pigs (this agression!!), 'The perfect drug' (the beginning is really funny :D )

[repcak]

so me again... sorry for the triple-post during the whole day :D

i send the mail with the link (bootleg: live in fresno) to all of you.

[bwnstl]

Repcak I didn't get it. :(

Edit: Nevermind! got sent to my spam folder for some reason. Thanks very much!

[Reywas]

I already had Live In Fresno but thanks a bunch for the videos.

[Leper Affinity]

Heck yeah, that's one of my favorite NIN songs period. I always think that record is one dimensional, then I listen to it and I realize it's really not. There are some classic songs on there. I like every song except THTF and Getting Smaller.
I like everything on that album except...

...You Know What You Are? = WORST NIN SONG EVER

God I hate that song. :upset: The only part I can stand is the bass/keyboard outro.

But other then that, I love the album. :)

[Kage]

I like You Know What You Are? a lot. One of my favorite things about it is the out-of-place sounding piano in the chorus, and the undercurrent of dark and machine-like ambience that make the song what it is. Aside from those very NIN touches, it's not an amazingly written song, but it's always been the subtleties that make NIN what it is.

[Leper Affinity]

I thought they really overdid the drums on that one. The main parts of the song were alright, but the chorus was horrible...methinks. I don't really mind though. That album has some really great songs that make up for a few downfalls.

[G_Mac07]

repcak, you can take down the bootleg now. I downloaded it, but sadly it screwed up and I was only able to salvage the first 5 tracks. :(

[ThunderBass]

'You Know What You Are?' is one of my favourite tracks on the album... i dont mind the aggressive drum beat and dont think that its overdone... if every second song on the album had that style then maybe...

[misunderstood]

I personally think 'You Know What You Are' is a great song. It's a great live song. I wouldn't go as far as saying it's one of my favorite ones off the album, but it's still a good one nonetheless. 'Beside You In Time' and 'All the Love in the World' are some of my favorite ones. Heh, I wonder what ever happened to his "master plan"...if he even ever had one.

Anyway, listened to an interview with Trent earlier and he was once again asked about the whole Tapeworm project. Said that although that didn't work out, he was sure he and Maynard would work together again in the future. That would be awesome (of course, hoping the project does see the light of day). He also commented on why they don't play songs such as 'The Perfect Drug' and 'We're in This Together Now' (one of my favorite tracks off The Fragile). Something about the vocal range being to high for him and he didn't know what the hell he was thinking when he recorded that one. It was a good short phone interview.

[Leper Affinity]

That's disappointing as hell. :( "The Perfect Drug" and "We're in This Together" are two of my favorite NIN songs ever.

[tenorbass]

hey fellow NIN fans. I have liked NIN sence i was 10 and they are still one of my favorite bands. I just saw them live about 5 days ago bloody amazing night. My favoriute cd is Pretty Hate Machine. I have ever halo except 18 and 20. If anyone could help me out with those 2 that would be great!! thanks. :thumb:

[repcak]

halo18 and 20? ... hm.. what albums?! don't know inside out what album-title is which halo...

@all NIN-regulars here:
Everyone says that only TDS is a concept album and that TF and WT is not! I disagree.
Maybe its not a concept album in the classic way, but the following albums have still a 'story' to tell. Never realized it?

The Fragile: I still haven't worked this album out to the end. Its ever more hard, cause it consists of 2 cds. Therefore i will speak of the first one (which has for sure a 'story' to tell - i'm not sure with the second one). I still don't know exactly what it's about, but it has something to do with a 'love-story': Trent Reznor fails in love, realizes that the other person doesn't love him and he is rejected. He describes his feelings of 'failing' in love and so on...
The song "The Fragile" (taken as an album-title) is one of the beautifullest love-songs i 've heard -> "she shines in a world full of ugliness, she matters when everything is meaningless "

With_Teeth: The story how Trent Reznor 'defeated' his depressions. His way through therapy, the up and downs.
f.e.: The song: "Every day is exactly the same" describes a/one feeling of depression-state or the day-routine in a hospital of rehabilitation; the song text: "I'm writing on a little piece of paper, I'm hoping someday you might find, Well I'll hide it behind something, They won't look behind" > maybe its the letter someone leaves before he commit suicide... and in this case its the note trent wanted to leave.

its one o'clock in the night and i'm tired... maybe you discuss it and i will add more of my interpretation-ideas tomorrow.

[Leper Affinity]

I agree with you. Although WT and TF aren't technically considered "concept albums", I think everything puts out has a some sort of theme or constant message throughout. TDS was the only one with a really specific, defined story though.

[repcak]

yeah, In TDS he at first had a concept in mind and then he started to write the songs. In WT and TF he wrote songs all the time during a special period of time/life and then put it in order

[Killtacular]

The Fragile was a concept album, but it had no storyline.

[Leper Affinity]

The Fragile was a concept album, but it had no storyline.
That's kind of contradictory.

[bwnstl]

That's kind of contradictory.

No it's not.

[Leper Affinity]

Yes it is.

[woundedmonkey]

someone told me that nin was one person... is this true?

[heavy metal kid]

someone told me that nin was one person... is this true?
Yes(but not live)
Trent Reznor would be that ONE.