Nine Inch Nails

[AIC/EAZY-E]

Please...

Yeah, what's wrong with my list mate.

[Kage]

Yeah, what's wrong with my list mate.
No, no that's not what I meant at all. :lol: sorry, that didn't come across how I wanted. It was basically a "don't make me try to narrow it down to ten" kind of thing. Although, I eventually did manage to do it.

[Kage]

And, dammit, I knew I'd leave something off. Ruiner! That's my favorite song from TDS, how could I forget it?

[AIC/EAZY-E]

Oh thats good then. First I thought you were being an arrogant prick then I thought I should've inlcuded the song 'Please' in there. I got confused. Haha. Everything is good between NIN fans once again.

[Kage]

Oh thats good then. First I thought you were being an arrogant prick then I thought I should've inlcuded the song 'Please' in there. I got confused. Haha. Everything is good between NIN fans once again.
Yeah, sorry about that, I can see how much of an asshole I must have seemed like. Ha, as if it would be anyone's place to condemn someone else's list!

[Huber]

I'm starting to get into NIN a lot more lately listening to Pretty Hate Machine and With Teeth. TDS for somer eason is hard to find around here, but I plan on going out again this weekend and finding a copy.

[Kage]

I definately recommend doing that. You can always get it from Amazon for relatively cheap if all else fails. If you've never heard TDS, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised by it, even if you don't like it so much on the first listen. It grows on you, trust me. It's brilliant on so many levels.

[AIC/EAZY-E]

Every song on TDS completely blows me away. I saw it for $15 which is cheap in NZ, and I had $12 :upset: ... It's always in the back of my head, when I see it for the normal price of $34 .It's more than 10 years old!

[Huber]

I definately recommend doing that. You can always get it from Amazon for relatively cheap if all else fails. If you've never heard TDS, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised by it, even if you don't like it so much on the first listen. It grows on you, trust me. It's brilliant on so many levels.

Shhhh! Don't let the Amazon secret leak!

I don't have a usable credit card at the moment though, that's like the whole root of the problem. Making me get out of the computer chair and going to the music store...stupid plastic...

[misunderstood]

Every song on TDS completely blows me away. I saw it for $15 which is cheap in NZ, and I had $12 :upset: ... It's always in the back of my head, when I see it for the normal price of $34 .It's more than 10 years old!


$34?! :amaze: ..and I complain about it when i have to get them for more than $15. Heh.

[Kage]

Shhhh! Don't let the Amazon secret leak!

I don't have a usable credit card at the moment though, that's like the whole root of the problem. Making me get out of the computer chair and going to the music store...stupid plastic...
Haha, don't worry, I'm careful about who I tell, but I remembered we had talked about it before in the Tool thread anyway.

I'll be at the music store tommorow as well, looking for some stupid plastic (hopefully Team Sleep and Porcupine Tree)

[metal sh*t]

i've only heard the hand that feeds

[Kage]

Well, you haven't heard much in that case.

[Magicaltroll]

i've only heard the hand that feeds
Theres so much more to hear... And if you liked that, chances are you'd liek the new CD, With Teeth (duh).

Go out and buy it :thumb:

[misunderstood]

Nine Inch Nails performing at the MTV movie awards! I usually don't like watching the movie awards but this time there's a good reason to do so. I just saw that extended interview they have on the site as well. He talks about the failed projects with MJK and Zack from RATM...It's interesting.

[Magicaltroll]

Nine Inch Nails performing at the MTV movie awards! I usually don't like watching the movie awards but this time there's a good reason to do so. I just saw that extended interview they have on the site as well. He talks about the failed projects with MJK and Zack from RATM...It's interesting.
MTV.com? Or nin.com?
And thats awesome.

[BlindWriting]

He talks about the failed projects with MJK and Zack from RATM...It's interesting.
I've always wanted to know more about the thing he did with Zack De La Rocha. They were in a studio right around the time that Johnny Cash died, but nothing ever came out of it.

[misunderstood]

MTV.com? Or nin.com?
And thats awesome.

www.mtv.com

[Magicaltroll]

Yeah, I found it by the time you responded :p
For some reason I can't play any videos on that site, I install the plug in. It still won't work though. Its been that way for awhile.

Sooo what were the highlights of the video?

[BlindWriting]

Yeah, I just read that article "The Upward Spiral". Very interesting stuff. Not only do I see a lot of the lyrical connections to With Teeth (which in turn makes me appreciate the writing a lot more), but I definitely did not know that he OD'd on heroin. I find it hard to believe that he finds himself disappointed with The Fragile. It was easily my favorite of his records.

[misunderstood]

Yeah, I found it by the time you responded :p
For some reason I can't play any videos on that site, I install the plug in. It still won't work though. Its been that way for awhile.

Sooo what were the highlights of the video?

Are you by any chance using firefox or anything else? 'Cause if you are then that's probably the problem. I couldn't get it to work on mine either so I had to open it with Explorere (which I hate). Anyway, if you can't get the video, there's an interview posted on the site which pretty much sums it up...

[vecter1212]

I like "with teeth" ALOT.

Trent is much more mature now and more unrestricted. "Right where it belongs" is magnificent imo, obviously not NIN style but so what, there really are no rules that says is has to sound like anything before it. He is clean and sober now after years of partying, and I really like this album. Heroin and drugs almost killed him, and he hints at love for the first time ever. ( basicially he says, "Ill hide it behind something you would never look behind") imo it refers to his heart and love. Times change, attitudes change, and I like the direction of Trent/NIN.

[Magicaltroll]

Are you by any chance using firefox or anything else? 'Cause if you are then that's probably the problem. I couldn't get it to work on mine either so I had to open it with Explorere (which I hate). Anyway, if you can't get the video, there's an interview posted on the site which pretty much sums it up...
Yeah I am actually :p
Thanks.

[misunderstood]

"Along with the 13 tracks on With Teeth, the sessions yielded at least seven more songs Reznor hopes to eventually release. And since wrapping the album, he's already been writing the next one. "I haven't interrupted the writing process this time, and I feel energized," he says. "

:confused:
I wonder if he is thinking of releasing those seven songs before the next album or as part of the next album...

*thinks about the mysterious lyrics on the "With Teeth" page and the mysterious "master plan" he keeps mentioning*....

Hmm... :amaze: ...and well, at the bottom of the "With Teeth" page it says..."check this page for more content in the coming days"...Heh, I'm just curious to know whats going on (if anything).

[Magicaltroll]

Well, if anyone finds anything out, tell us!

:thumb:

[Kage]

Perhaps there's no master plan, and he's scrambling to find something to do quick.

[Magicaltroll]

Probably... :lol:

I really hope its new songs... That'd be cool.

[Kage]

Trent is at a point in his carreer hwere he could literally get away with murder. Perhaps he released With Teeth as a bait album--somethign to hold us off and keep us interested for the time being until the real release was to come about. Now, with so much new material dangling in front of us, we drool for more and we never lose interest in his NIN project.

To cover for this, he booked a huge US tour in small venues, not to, as he claims, gauge the popularity of NIN (which would take a very thick skull not to realize that NIN still has a massive loyal fanbase), but to take the attention away from the fact that no matter what he releases, it'll be treated as god's gift to music by his fans. Meanwhile, he plans to execute his "master plan," but managed to buy himself some more time in cleverly sinister plan.

[Magicaltroll]

Genius!
Kinda confusing though.. haha

[misunderstood]

^^ Yeah, it is kinda confusing...I had to read that post twice to understand what he was saying. It all makes sense now though.

[Kage]

:lol: You of course realize it's a load of garbage?

[Magicaltroll]

:lol: You of course realize it's a load of garbage?
Yeah haha
It was still pretty funny though :lol:

[Kage]

I'm still suspicious of the fact that he supposedly "didn't realize" that NIN had a huge fan base.

[misunderstood]

heh, thats funny because after i read the post for the second time to myself..i read it outloud to my roommate and she looked at me rather weirdly...and i told her.."ha, this has to be some sort of joke"... :p

Anyway, you really did get my brain to think for a minute there.. :thumb: ..not just anyone can do that with me..hahaha.

[The_Shredder]

I'm still suspicious of the fact that he supposedly "didn't realize" that NIN had a huge fan base.

- I don't think it was that, so much as he doesn't have a "rockstar ego", ya know what I mean?

6 years is a long time man. Sure I think T-rez is one of the most brilliant musicians the world has seen in a long time, but I doubt he sees himself that way. 90% of the bands out there could NOT just disappear from the public for almost a decade and just comeback and sell out shows the way NIN has.

I think for the most part Trent knows this, and he didn't want to "expect to much" from his fans.

I'm gald we proved him wrong! :)

[ATM]

What are NIN like live? Anybody been?

[misunderstood]

Not yet...May 25th is just around the corner though! I've read some really good reviews about the current tour though. I've seen their live DVD many times as well and it's just pretty amazing...Seems like they put on one hell of a show.

[ATM]

I'll definantly go if they make a stop in Maryland.

[The_Shredder]

What are NIN like live? Anybody been?

One word: Chaos.

They're ****ing AWESOME live.

[deadinholywood]

I'm still suspicious of the fact that he supposedly "didn't realize" that NIN had a huge fan base.

Well he 'didnt realise' that he had such a problem with addiction and that his manager stole his money lol!

[Kage]

- I don't think it was that, so much as he doesn't have a "rockstar ego", ya know what I mean?

6 years is a long time man. Sure I think T-rez is one of the most brilliant musicians the world has seen in a long time, but I doubt he sees himself that way. 90% of the bands out there could NOT just disappear from the public for almost a decade and just comeback and sell out shows the way NIN has.

I think for the most part Trent knows this, and he didn't want to "expect to much" from his fans.

I'm gald we proved him wrong! :)
Heh..You're right. The guy is pretty humble. It is actually amazing, how loyal and strong a fanbase he has, really. Anyway, all I can hope for is that there'll be some reletively cheap scalped tickets at the door when I get to the show. :-\

[Magicaltroll]

Well, I know Trent still has it (like the one guy said) because I got like 2 bootlegged shows, and they're awesome.

I wanna go see them live so bad...

[misunderstood]

Anyway, all I can hope for is that there'll be some reletively cheap scalped tickets at the door when I get to the show. :-\

Good luck with that. I'm guessing you're gonna try to make the Houston show?
Oh, and by the way, "With Teeth" is No.1 on the charts! :thumb:

[Magicaltroll]

Good luck with that. I'm guessing you're gonna try to make the Houston show?
Oh, and by the way, "With Teeth" is No.1 on the charts! :thumb:
:eek:
That's awesome! Have any of the other albums gone to number 1 before?

[BlindWriting]

Good luck with that. I'm guessing you're gonna try to make the Houston show?
Oh, and by the way, "With Teeth" is No.1 on the charts! :thumb:
That's awesome. It must be a great feeling after six years.

[misunderstood]

That's awesome. It must be a great feeling after six years.


Yeah, no kidding. The band (probably mostly Trent) must feel pretty d@mn good.

That's awesome! Have any of the other albums gone to number 1 before?

I believe "The Fragile was No.1 also. I think TDS made it to No.2 only...which is still not bad.

[Mabelobe]

Im pretty sure TDS hit number 1 atleast once.....it had Closer as its SINGLE....everyone was obsessed with that song the second they heard it...

[Magicaltroll]

Im pretty sure TDS hit number 1 atleast once.....it had Closer as its SINGLE....everyone was obsessed with that song the second they heard it...
Yeah.
I loved that song when it came out. Well, when I heard it... BEcause I was pretty young when it came out :D

[12Rounds]

NIN is incredible live, just saw them the 10th in Toronto, ****ing spectacular.

Trent landed on me when he jumped off the stage in Piggy.

Awesome setlist.

[misunderstood]

^^Yeah, I read reviews to that show. Looks like it was indeed an awesome show. Most of the reviews i've been reading have been REALLY good and the setlist keeps chaning everytime. I can't wait for May 25th. It's almost here!

[Magicaltroll]

Has anyone ever seen We're In This Together Now live?
I would LOVE to see it live, but none of the bootlegs I can get a hold of have it on there (you can see all of their tracklists). It sucks. It seems like that would be an aweosme song live.

[BlindWriting]

What is the "NIN – Collected" DVD?
Look here:
http://www.bandbuilder.com/nin/index.php?ref_code=D57518
Official? Bootleg? A scam? I'd love to know.

[misunderstood]

I'm not too sure if it's an official release or not (if it is, then this would be halo 20) but according to the NIN hotline it contains:

"[The DVD contains a] Body of Work section identical to the one on TDS Dualdisc, but updated with Halo 18 and 19.

Then there's the featurette. From the descriptions I read of the listening parties, this is what was played on screens at those. The opening is clips from various NIN videos, then it plays clips of every NIN video, Woodstock '94, Closure, AATCHB, etc, all in chronological order, opened by titles like "[1989]" and "THE_PERFECT_DRUG." The quality looks and sounds pretty much flawless. The length of this entire deal is probably under half an hour. "

I saw this dvd on ebay a couple days ago selling for about $99..but then I read somewhere that the dvd is going to come with some magazines, bundled with some video games, and given out at clubs...and well, NIN.com is giving it out for free...
*hopes to get it in the mail*

[AIC/EAZY-E]

Well I've been carefully cutting down and altering the songs on my 2 CD's for a NIN compilation. It simply cannot be done perfectly. Here is the track list so far, done in chronological order so people can see what albums they came from and tell me off if I left a song behind or included one that shouldn't be there.

Pretty Hate Machine

Down In It
Head Like A Hole
Sin
Terrible Lie
Something I Can Never Have

Broken

Wish
Happiness In Slavery
Gave Up (?)
Suck

The Downward Spiral

March Of The Pigs
Closer
Hurt
Heresy
Mr. Self Destruct
Reptile
Piggy (?)
Ruiner (?)

The Perfect Drug

The Fragile

The Day The World Went Away
We're In This Together
The Fragile
The Wretched
Somewhat Damaged
The Great Below (?)
- -
Star****ers Inc.
Into The Void
Where Is Everybody (?)
The Big Comedown

Still

And All That Could've Been

Deep (?)

With Teeth

The Hand That Feeds
All The Love In The World
Every Day Is Exactly The Same
Only (?)
Sunspots (?)
The Line Begins To Blur
Right Where It Belongs (?)

The ones with ?'s next to them are one's that I am unsure of to put on a NIN compilation with their best material. Some are due to time constraints, as this set of songs is still 7 minutes over 2hr 40min. Please, big NIN fans, help me with this, this has the potential to be a badass CD. Don't tell me to just listen to their CD's, I've already done that 103209328438423 times. Anyway, thanks :naughty:

[Pantera in Chains]

I love NIN and I like With Teeth a lot but has anyone noticed how similar the riff from The Hand That Feeds is to a certain riff from Peace sells.... with Megadeth. Anyways Trent Reznor is a ****in genius. I'd love to see NIN live.

[Kage]

Well I've been carefully cutting down and altering the songs on my 2 CD's for a NIN compilation. It simply cannot be done perfectly. Here is the track list so far, done in chronological order so people can see what albums they came from and tell me off if I left a song behind or included one that shouldn't be there.

Pretty Hate Machine

Down In It
Head Like A Hole
Sin
Terrible Lie
Something I Can Never Have

Broken

Wish
Happiness In Slavery
Gave Up (?)
Suck

The Downward Spiral

March Of The Pigs Personally, I would put The Becoming instead
Closer
Hurt
Heresy
Mr. Self Destruct
Reptile
Piggy (?) - A Warm Place is what I would put here
Ruiner (?)

The Perfect Drug

The Fragile

The Day The World Went Away
We're In This Together
The Fragile
The Frail/The Wretched
Somewhat Damaged
The Great Below (?)
- -
Star****ers Inc. I wouldn't include this, it's a bad intro Replace with: I'm Looking Forward To Joining You, Finally OR Underneath It All
Into The Void
Where Is Everybody (?)
The Big Comedown

Still

And All That Could've Been

Deep (?)

With Teeth

The Hand That Feeds
All The Love In The World
Every Day Is Exactly The Same
Only (?)
Sunspots (?)
The Line Begins To Blur
Right Where It Belongs (?)

The ones with ?'s next to them are one's that I am unsure of to put on a NIN compilation with their best material. Some are due to time constraints, as this set of songs is still 7 minutes over 2hr 40min. Please, big NIN fans, help me with this, this has the potential to be a badass CD. Don't tell me to just listen to their CD's, I've already done that 103209328438423 times. Anyway, thanks :naughty:

Let's see here. I'll bold the ones that I think you should take off, and add suggestions. Right now it's pretty good, but I see some things that shouldn't be on there, in my opinion of course.

[Six Foot Revolver]

I bought with teeth today, I felt the songs were far more poppy but it is still really good :thumb:

[MxShredder]

NIN is incredible live, just saw them the 10th in Toronto, ****ing spectacular.

Trent landed on me when he jumped off the stage in Piggy.

Awesome setlist.

wait wait, I don't remember him ever jumping off stage? or playing piggy for that matter?

I was up front for a good portion of it, till one douche threatened to stab me and another infront of me was trying to start a fight, then i was over by the right for the rest of it. I liked how he played so much of broken, and all of the old stuff for that matter. Closer sounded pretty rushed though

Trent has a loyal fanbase, but a lot of them aren't great to go to a concert with :(

[Kage]

wait wait, I don't remember him ever jumping off stage? or playing piggy for that matter?

I was up front for a good portion of it, till one douche threatened to stab me and another infront of me was trying to start a fight, then i was over by the right for the rest of it. I liked how he played so much of broken, and all of the old stuff for that matter. Closer sounded pretty rushed though

Trent has a loyal fanbase, but a lot of them aren't great to go to a concert with :(
Man, that sucks. A good audience is necessary for a good concert. In Houston, every concert I've been to, the audience is awesome. THe kind where if anyone falls down or is getting hurt, everyone rushes to help. In Austin, though, there are more jackasses. A lot of it depends on the band and the location.

[MxShredder]

Man, that sucks. A good audience is necessary for a good concert. In Houston, every concert I've been to, the audience is awesome. THe kind where if anyone falls down or is getting hurt, everyone rushes to help. In Austin, though, there are more jackasses. A lot of it depends on the band and the location.

ah, not too many of them at this concert. Other than the threats and stuff another guy was trying to protect his girlfriend or something silly like that, so anyone who got withing a foot or two of them he flipped out on. He grabbed this one guy by the neck and started threatening him and stuff. And there were alot of losers who kept their elbows up too.

But the show itself was really good, I remember them opening with pinion, playing Something I can never have, Head like a hole, Closer, March of the pigs, Ruiner, Wish, Hurt, You know what you are(?I forget what the title is?), With Teeth, The Hand that Feeds and a few others. I don't really remember him playing anything off of The Fragile.

EDIT: I can't believe i forgot to mention the Dresdon Dolls, they were amazing, way better than I thought they'd be. The played an awesome cover of War Pigs, which is pretty great considering it's mostly just drums and piano

[Kage]

Sounds awesome. I'd love to see Ruiner live, it's my favorite song from TDS. They're coming here a week from this Tuesday, but I didn't get tickets. Hopefully I'll find some good scalped tickets.

[Magicaltroll]

Sounds awesome. I'd love to see Ruiner live, it's my favorite song from TDS. They're coming here a week from this Tuesday, but I didn't get tickets. Hopefully I'll find some good scalped tickets.
Yeah, here are some songs I would LOVE to see live...
Ruiner
Heresy
Mr. Self Destruct
Something I Can Never Have
Wee're In This Together Now
The Day The Whole Went Away
The Becoming

I Do Not Want This

And some other ones... Doubt I ever will ge to see half of those live :/

[Kage]

Wow...those would be awesome to see.

[Magicaltroll]

Wow...those would be awesome to see.
Yes they would be :D
Also I would love to see a GOOD performance of Somewhat Damaged. The ones I've seen/heard weren't very good imo...

[MxShredder]

Sounds awesome. I'd love to see Ruiner live, it's my favorite song from TDS. They're coming here a week from this Tuesday, but I didn't get tickets. Hopefully I'll find some good scalped tickets.

It came out great, it was at the same time as the knife threat though so i couldn't really focus on the music too much cause the guy kept on following me around. It was a lot more powerful too, the guitar parts came out real loud.

[BlindWriting]

Yes they would be :D
Also I would love to see a GOOD performance of Somewhat Damaged. The ones I've seen/heard weren't very good imo...
That is a great song. Perfect opener for TF.

[Magicaltroll]

That is a great song. Perfect opener for TF.
Yeah, it is.

I just noticed that I had the lyrics to Closer wrong all this time...
I thought it was "You can't help my observation, you can't help the hate that it brings, you cant help my absence of faith, you can't help my everything"

When its actually
"You can have my isolation, you can have the hate that
It brings
You can have my absence of faith, you can have my
Everything
Help me tear down my reason, help me its’ your sex i
Can smell
Help me you make me perfect, help me become somebody
Else"

[Kage]

I would pay an obscene amount of money to see NIN live. I'm not kidding either.
I'm not sure how much I can afford at the moment. If I was ready to shell out $200 or so, I'd already have a couple of tickets. But I'm hoping to get one from $50-$80. I'll most likely be looking for desperate scalpers.

[Kage]

I figure they'll be back in town at some point in the next year, so I'm not all that desperate. I'm going to scope out the area and see what I can come up with.

[Kage]

Heh...that sounds like fun. Trent said they're going to go back for another round in the US right after their current tour becuase of all the people that didn't get tickets. I have confidence that I can believe in that.

If not, I guess I'm screwed and should just hope there'll be a new live DVD coming out.

[Kage]

They should make it a rule that anyone who went to the first round can't go to the next tour.

[Magicaltroll]

They should make it a rule that anyone who went to the first round can't go to the next tour.
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That would be an awesome rule...

[Kage]

But that'd be against the rules :p

[Katana]

Liking "Closer" for its immature thrills wouldn't make me a NIN fan, would it?

[Kage]

Probably not, but have you heard any of their other stuff?

[RNR]

What's keeping this thread alive? That wasn't a very good album compared to some of their other stuff :/

[Kage]

Well, some of us like it a lot, and this has become a good NIN/community thread for the NIN fans to gather and talk. Read the thread, it's changed from about the album to general NIN and community discussion.

[RNR]

Hmm, well i'm not going to read the thread. But that makes sense.

[Magicaltroll]

Hmm, well i'm not going to read the thread. But that makes sense.
You should, you'd learn alot of stuff about them.

[misunderstood]

They should make it a rule that anyone who went to the first round can't go to the next tour.

No way...I would be one really pissed off NIN fan if I couldn't go see them again on their next tour. The more NIN the merrier, heh. :p I understand though...I'd probably be all for this rule if I wouldn't have gotten tickets for this club tour.

[The_Shredder]

That wasn't a very good album compared to some of their other stuff :/

112% disagrees.

[AIC/EAZY-E]

It's up to par, but given the time he could've done better songs than Getting Smaller and The Collector. And more thought could've been put into Only, I am really forcing myself to like it. Otherwise, it's a rather flawless album.

[BlindWriting]

Well, some of us like it a lot, and this has become a good NIN/community thread for the NIN fans to gather and talk. Read the thread, it's changed from about the album to general NIN and community discussion.
Yep. Much like what the Tool thread has turned into, a fan/community thread rather than stuff that's strictly about the music or a specific album.

[Magicaltroll]

Yeah, I was thinking about getting a mod to change the thread title to jsut "Nine Inch Nails". Think they'll do it?

[BlindWriting]

It's a good idea. Give it a go.

[Magicaltroll]

w00t! They did it.
Thanks whoever did it :)

[The_Shredder]

It's up to par, but given the time he could've done better songs than Getting Smaller and The Collector. And more thought could've been put into Only, I am really forcing myself to like it. Otherwise, it's a rather flawless album.

Getting smaller is one of my favorite tracks on the album. It's very March of the Pigs.

[Magicaltroll]

Getting smaller is one of my favorite tracks on the album. It's very March of the Pigs.
Yeah, but to me, it seems out of place a little bit. I still like it alot, but its jsut out of place kind of.

[nrvn55]

not that any one cares...but tommorrow night i'm seeing nin at the electric factory. needless to say i can not wait.

[Magicaltroll]

not that any one cares...but tommorrow night i'm seeing nin at the electric factory. needless to say i can not wait.
I care :D
When you get back, tell us what the setlist was and how the show was :thumb:

[nrvn55]

yes sir.

[Magicaltroll]

Thanks :D
...Sir :thumb:

[ATM]

Did anyone catch the article with Trent in Metal Edge magazine?

[Magicaltroll]

Did anyone catch the article with Trent in Metal Edge magazine?
Nope, I only get interviews online. I hardly ever get magazines :/

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

So you aren't a lesbian.

And why every 3 years do I hear about Tape Worm with Trent and Maynard NOT working out? It pisses me off; either say they're gonna work together or not say it at all.

Fvcking buzzkills.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

But it would be 10 orgasms in a row if it did.

..And if it does happen, I assume you'll share that experience with us. ;)

[Magicaltroll]

^ tr00f. Every once in awhile I'll hear a rumor about Tapeworm/NIN chillin and talking about a cominbed tour. I've gotten used to hearing them and not believing them, because IT NEVER happens. And probably won't. But it would be 10 orgasms in a row if it did.

If I saw Maynard and Trent next to each other I would freaking scream until I died.
Don't play with my emotions liek that :upset:

[deadinholywood]

So you aren't a lesbian.

And why every 3 years do I hear about Tape Worm with Trent and Maynard NOT working out? It pisses me off; either say they're gonna work together or not say it at all.

Fvcking buzzkills.

Meh there is an artical in the latest spin magazine outlining what happened with tapeworm, it came out much more commercialised that what trent wanted it to and while maynard was all for it trent decided to scrap it. I doubt anything will ever come from the project.
He also says something about getting to the stage where he no longer wants to make music as NIN but simply as trent reznor because he feels that he has moved too far away from what NIN initially ment to him

[misunderstood]

In that article/interview MTV has posted online, he pretty much says it straight out that Tapeworm isn't going to happen...sad. I was really looking forward to this project.

[Magicaltroll]

He also says something about getting to the stage where he no longer wants to make music as NIN but simply as trent reznor because he feels that he has moved too far away from what NIN initially ment to him
I actually think that would be a good idea, NIN isn't really what it used to be imo. While he still makes amazing music, its not the original NIN, but then again, bands grow all the time. And they don't change their names, so who knows?

[The_Shredder]

I actually think that would be a good idea, NIN isn't really what it used to be imo. While he still makes amazing music, its not the original NIN, but then again, bands grow all the time. And they don't change their names, so who knows?

- What?!

[The_Shredder]

What he said is the truth. Accept it, fool.

- Ok, allow me to clarify... What he said makes no sense to me.

Clear enough? :thumb:

[Magicaltroll]

- Ok, allow me to clarify... What he said makes no sense to me.

Clear enough? :thumb:
OK, I was jsut saying that NIN is a different band now pretty much, and I think people were kinda shocked when this one came out. I mean, it really was a different direction for him or "the band".

And I think that him changing his band name to Trent Reznor or whatever, really wouldn't be that bad of an idea. Because its a whole different NIN now.

Sorry if that doesn't make sense either.

[Huber]

OK, I was jsut saying that NIN is a different band now pretty much, and I think people were kinda shocked when this one came out. I mean, it really was a different direction for him or "the band".

And I think that him changing his band name to Trent Reznor or whatever, really wouldn't be that bad of an idea. Because its a whole different NIN now.

Sorry if that doesn't make sense either.

I don't like the name changing idea. Leaving behind something so big as Nine Inch Nails because you make a different sounding album isn't really right IMO. Plus, the name Nine Inch Nails is really f*cking cool.

[Kage]

I don't like the name changing idea. Leaving behind something so big as Nine Inch Nails because you make a different sounding album isn't really right IMO. Plus, the name Nine Inch Nails is really f*cking cool.
:lol: 123.

[Magicaltroll]

I know, but it would make sense.
I really really doubt he will EVER do that though.

[Magicaltroll]

I know I know...
But it would make sense right?

It wouldn't be good, but it makes sense to me.

[repcak]

i am again a name-change! why? only because this album is a little bit different?
no! for me it is still music from nine inch nails and trent reznor!
and i love with_teeth.... its great, its wonderful, its beautiful!

[The_Shredder]

OK, I was jsut saying that NIN is a different band now pretty much, and I think people were kinda shocked when this one came out. I mean, it really was a different direction for him or "the band".

And I think that him changing his band name to Trent Reznor or whatever, really wouldn't be that bad of an idea. Because its a whole different NIN now.

Sorry if that doesn't make sense either.

- Not really.

NIN has never been a "band". It's been one guys music. It's always been that way.

Every album that Trent has done has been worlds apart from the previous album. Look at the differences between Broken and Pretty Hate Machine. From synth pop to a Grammy for Best Metal Perfromance.

Any artist who doesn't grow is dammning themselves.

With_Teeth sounds like NIN to me.

*shrugs*

...But if he ever starts singing about puppies, i will personally kick his ***. :D

[nrvn55]

well i saw them last night and they were AMAZING. it was the most intense concert experiance of my life. it was cool because in between songs we all started to spontaneously sing "happy birthday" to trent. trent starts to smile and laugh(ok it was more of a few chuckles....but it was close!) and says "ha...thanks guys...that's enough...from now on though...no smiling." and then they exploded into "march of the pigs". the set list contained alot of the usual live songs with a few new ones some of which were:
reptile( i was so happy to hear this)
home
burn
even deeper
thtf
they ended with head like a hole. great concert. they opened with wish and they crowd was just insane.

[repcak]

- Not really.

NIN has never been a "band". It's been one guys music. It's always been that way.

Every album that Trent has done has been worlds apart from the previous album. Look at the differences between Broken and Pretty Hate Machine. From synth pop to a Grammy for Best Metal Perfromance.

[...]

With_Teeth sounds like NIN to me.



:thumb:

[Magicaltroll]

well i saw them last night and they were AMAZING. it was the most intense concert experiance of my life. it was cool because in between songs we all started to spontaneously sing "happy birthday" to trent. trent starts to smile and laugh(ok it was more of a few chuckles....but it was close!) and says "ha...thanks guys...that's enough...from now on though...no smiling." and then they exploded into "march of the pigs". the set list contained alot of the usual live songs with a few new ones some of which were:
reptile( i was so happy to hear this)
home
burn
even deeper
thtf
they ended with head like a hole. great concert. they opened with wish and they crowd was just insane.
Yeah, Reptile is a great song live.
From what I've heard of it that is. Does anyone know how long they will tour? And they are coming back to the U.S. after the other places right?

[Kage]

Yes, they'll be coming back to the US afterwards. I'm nervous though; in a few days, NIN will be here. I'm not very confident that I'll be able to get decent scalped tickets. I also have finals that week.

/Wouldn't even think about not blowing off finals to see NIN.

[monkeymon]

I really hope they do. It has been forever and a half since they ahve stopped by in washington.
Whats your guys' favorite NIN cd?

[nrvn55]

Yes, they'll be coming back to the US afterwards. I'm nervous though; in a few days, NIN will be here. I'm not very confident that I'll be able to get decent scalped tickets. I also have finals that week.

/Wouldn't even think about not blowing off finals to see NIN.

it is absolutely worth it. people at my show had gotten some bad scalped tickets. just give them a good look over. trust me it's worth it.

[Magicaltroll]

I really hope they do. It has been forever and a half since they ahve stopped by in washington.
Whats your guys' favorite NIN cd?
Used to be the Right disc of The Fragile, but now, it is The Downward Spiral.
At first I didn't like it, but now I see what it's all about, and I love it to death.

[monkeymon]

Yea i think my favorite is The Downward Spiral as well.
I listened to it so much at one point that whenever i think of something that happened in my life at that time im reminded of the cd, or vice versa

[Magicaltroll]

Yea i think my favorite is The Downward Spiral as well.
I listened to it so much at one point that whenever i think of something that happened in my life at that time im reminded of the cd, or vice versa
Yeah, I can definitely relate to it at some points in my life.
People think its pretty lame when I tell them that. :/

[Kage]

My favorite CD is the Fragile. It' just a huge epic CD, and it covers so much ground. TDS is a damn close second though.

[BlindWriting]

My favorite NIN album is definitely The Fragile, followed closely by The Downward Spiral. Followed by With Teeth.

[BlindWriting]

By the way, I have really started to love Only.

[misunderstood]

The Downward Spiral is my favorite NIN album..though The Fragile came close.

[repcak]

i heard only "...and all that could have been", "the fragile", "with_teeth"
but in time my favourite album is with teeth , followed with the live record and the fragile

edit: i know its a shame i don't know TDS; i once heard it by a friend, but i personally don't own this album

[clearvision]

My fav Nin album is Still

/t3h lame

[Magicaltroll]

i heard only "...and all that could have been", "the fragile", "with_teeth"
but in time my favourite album is with teeth , followed with the live record and the fragile

edit: i know its a shame i don't know TDS; i once heard it by a friend, but i personally don't own this album
Get it :thumb:

[Magicaltroll]

That is an AMAZING album. It's the most beautiful piece(s?) of music I have ever heard in my life. I could listen to that album and just sit still (no pun intended) for the entire duration. It's so calming.
Yeah, its really great.
I really like the redone version of The Becoming in that one.

[repcak]

what do you think "the hand that feeds" is about??
because i read in an interview that it is Trents first political(... yes POLITICAL!!!) song; I can't imagine Trent will ever think of something like this. Trent never wrote and will never write any political songs... what do you think?

[misunderstood]

"If you want to, you'll be able to buy a real deluxe book that the record fits into. It's a super nice thing that will have a big essay from me and a lot of pictures. It's more of a presentation and the artwork that you have now, that maybe you didn't quite understand, you'll see how it all fits into this. You'll get it."


So I'm guessing this is his big "master plan", heh...I think I read it's only going to be sold at the Fall tour shows (which will be announced in June!) and online at the site. I was a bit confused at first 'cause I didn't know whether the album would come with it or not but it seems as though it's not...it's just an upgrade for those who bought "With Teeth" already.

[Kage]

I hope that that's not the biggest part of the master plan.

[AIC/EAZY-E]

Kage remember that list I did for those 2 cds of NIN? Can you or anyone go through that and tell me which ones you think could be left off and which ones should be added? It's on Page 35. I just need feedback from other NIN fans.

[Kage]

I responded before, I guess you didn't see it? Anyway, I'll gladly go through the list again. I'm not sure how much you want taken off, but here are my edits/suggestions:

Bolded are the ones that I would take off, and my suggested additions are italicized.

Pretty Hate Machine

Down In It
Head Like A Hole
Sin
Terrible Lie
Something I Can Never Have

Broken

Wish
Happiness In Slavery
Gave Up (?)
Suck

The Downward Spiral

March Of The Pigs (The Becoming )
Closer
Hurt
Heresy
Mr. Self Destruct
Reptile
Piggy (?) - A Warm Place is what I would put here.
Ruiner

The Perfect Drug

The Fragile

The Day The World Went Away
We're In This Together
The Fragile
The Frail/The Wretched
Somewhat Damaged
The Great Below (?)
- -
Star****ers Inc. I wouldn't include this, it's a bad intro. Replace with: I'm Looking Forward To Joining You, Finally , Underneath It All or Complication
Into The Void
Where Is Everybody (?)
The Big Comedown

Still

And All That Could've Been
The Becoming (Still version)

Deep (?) I find this unnecessary

With Teeth

The Hand That Feeds
All The Love In The World
Every Day Is Exactly The Same
Only (?)
Sunspots (?)
The Line Begins To Blur
Right Where It Belongs (?)

That's the list the way I would most likely make it. I probably forgot some things, and a lot of my edits are obviously personal opinion, but to me that would be the best way to introduce someone to NIN.





So here's what the new list would look like:

Pretty Hate Machine

Down In It
Head Like A Hole
Sin
Terrible Lie
Something I Can Never Have

Broken

Wish
Happiness In Slavery


The Downward Spiral

The Becoming
Closer
Hurt
Heresy
Mr. Self Destruct
Reptile
A Warm Place
Ruiner

The Perfect Drug

The Fragile

The Day The World Went Away
We're In This Together
The Fragile
The Frail/The Wretched
Somewhat Damaged
The Great Below
- -
Into The Void
Where Is Everybody
The Big Comedown
Underneath It All


Still

And All That Could've Been
The Becoming (Still version)


With Teeth

All The Love In The World
Every Day Is Exactly The Same
Only
The Line Begins To Blur
Right Where It Belongs

[Moses]

I responded before, I guess you didn't see it? Anyway, I'll gladly go through the list again. I'm not sure how much you want taken off, but here are my edits/suggestions:

Bolded are the ones that I would take off, and my suggested additions are italicized.

Pretty Hate Machine

Down In It
Head Like A Hole
Sin
Terrible Lie
Something I Can Never Have

Broken

Wish
Happiness In Slavery
Gave Up (?)
Suck

The Downward Spiral

March Of The Pigs (The Becoming )
Closer
Hurt
Heresy
Mr. Self Destruct
Reptile
Piggy (?) - A Warm Place is what I would put here.
Ruiner

The Perfect Drug

The Fragile

The Day The World Went Away
We're In This Together
The Fragile
The Frail/The Wretched
Somewhat Damaged
The Great Below (?)
- -
Star****ers Inc. I wouldn't include this, it's a bad intro. Replace with: I'm Looking Forward To Joining You, Finally , Underneath It All or Complication
Into The Void
Where Is Everybody (?)
The Big Comedown

Still

And All That Could've Been
The Becoming (Still version)

Deep (?) I find this unnecessary

With Teeth

The Hand That Feeds
All The Love In The World
Every Day Is Exactly The Same
Only (?)
Sunspots (?)
The Line Begins To Blur
Right Where It Belongs (?)

That's the list the way I would most likely make it. I probably forgot some things, and a lot of my edits are obviously personal opinion, but to me that would be the best way to introduce someone to NIN.





So here's what the new list would look like:

Pretty Hate Machine

Down In It
Head Like A Hole
Sin
Terrible Lie
Something I Can Never Have

Broken

Wish
Happiness In Slavery


The Downward Spiral

The Becoming
Closer
Hurt
Heresy
Mr. Self Destruct
Reptile
A Warm Place
Ruiner

The Perfect Drug

The Fragile

The Day The World Went Away
We're In This Together
The Fragile
The Frail/The Wretched
Somewhat Damaged
The Great Below
- -
Into The Void
Where Is Everybody
The Big Comedown
Underneath It All


Still

And All That Could've Been
The Becoming (Still version)


With Teeth

All The Love In The World
Every Day Is Exactly The Same
Only
The Line Begins To Blur
Right Where It Belongs

Why isn't March of the Pigs on the editted one? That song got me into NIN.

[Kage]

Why isn't March of the Pigs on the editted one? That song got me into NIN.
Everyone raves about that song, but it's not one of my favorites to be honest. I don't know why, it seems to generally be a fan favorite. I just love The Becoming, so I wanted it on there and it seemed like March was the best one to take off.

[Magicaltroll]

Why isn't March of the Pigs on the editted one? That song got me into NIN.
Yeah, I think MOTP is a great song.

[ATM]

You don't like Beside You In Time off of With Teeth?

[Moses]

Everyone raves about that song, but it's not one of my favorites to be honest. I don't know why, it seems to generally be a fan favorite. I just love The Becoming, so I wanted it on there and it seemed like March was the best one to take off.
It's not one of my favorites either, just that it sucked me into NIN almost immedietly.

[Kage]

You don't like Beside You In Time off of With Teeth?
Like I said, I probably forgot something. Now that you mention it, I think that should definately be on the list.

[AIC/EAZY-E]

Do you think I should add an instrumental off of Still, Adrift and At Peace is awesome.

[deadinholywood]

The Fragile

The Day The World Went Away
We're In This Together
The Fragile
The Frail/The Wretched
Somewhat Damaged
The Great Below
- -
Into The Void
Where Is Everybody
The Big Comedown
Underneath It All

Gasp..... no La Mer or Just Like You Imagined :(

Cries in the corner...

[deadinholywood]

err... could someone give me some info on this...

http://www.9inchnails.com/discography/albums.php?id=837

:confused:

[repcak]

err... could someone give me some info on this...

http://www.9inchnails.com/discography/albums.php?id=837

:confused:

maybe it will be the next dvd to be released ?? :confused:

[misunderstood]

err... could someone give me some info on this...

http://www.9inchnails.com/discography/albums.php?id=837

:confused:


I posted a brief discription of what it's suppose to be a couple pages back...i'm not too sure about it though...i got the information off of www.theninhotline.com

Edit: I just found the post...
I'm not too sure if it's an official release or not (if it is, then this would be halo 20) but according to the NIN hotline it contains:

"[The DVD contains a] Body of Work section identical to the one on TDS Dualdisc, but updated with Halo 18 and 19.

Then there's the featurette. From the descriptions I read of the listening parties, this is what was played on screens at those. The opening is clips from various NIN videos, then it plays clips of every NIN video, Woodstock '94, Closure, AATCHB, etc, all in chronological order, opened by titles like "[1989]" and "THE_PERFECT_DRUG." The quality looks and sounds pretty much flawless. The length of this entire deal is probably under half an hour. "

I saw this dvd on ebay a couple days ago selling for about $99..but then I read somewhere that the dvd is going to come with some magazines, bundled with some video games, and given out at clubs...and well, NIN.com is giving it out for free...
*hopes to get it in the mail*

[Magicaltroll]

*hopes to get it in the mail*
So you go to the site and like order it for free?
That would be pretty cool...

[Kage]

They're giving it away with a certain game at Game Stop stores. Just go down to your local store, ask for it, and if you get someone cool, they'll give it to you for free. I got three copies.

DO NOT buy it from Ebay, or anywhere else.

[Kage]

Gasp..... no La Mer or Just Like You Imagined :(

Cries in the corner...
God dammit, I can't win with this. Just Like You Imagined is a must. Thanks for reminding me of that, it's one of my favorite songs of all time.

[nrvn55]

where is the dvd available on the site? i can;t find it any where.

[Kage]

Collected DVD (http://www.nin.com/access/collected/index.asp?action=showlogin)

You have to have a membership or whatever, and fill out your address and they'll send it to you.

[nrvn55]

thanks...already a member.

[Lateralias]

I can't stop listening to The Big Comedown... great song.

[repcak]

Collected DVD (http://www.nin.com/access/collected/index.asp?action=showlogin)

You have to have a membership or whatever, and fill out your address and they'll send it to you.


thanks, i was registered.
i filled in all empty fields (my full adress) but i didn't got any confirm it will be delivered... now there stands only 'thank you'
is it the same with you guys??

[G_Mac07]

Does anyone here know if there's going to be a tour? or if so where I could get details. I got told NIN might be coming to Australia in August :D

[AIC/EAZY-E]

That means..NIN might come to NZ!...before Australia! (It's just how it is.) But I'll never forget when Korn said they'd come to NZ...then they missed us and went straight to Aus. Fagets....pun...he..he.

[Kage]

Those are the dates so far as on http://www.nin.com/tour I'm missing them in the UK as I'm on holiday abroad when they're playing. :upset: Hopefully they'll be back sooner rather than later, as I absolutely have to see them live just for their crazily energetic live show.
After this current tour, they'll be coming back around (at least in the US, not sure you about you UKers, though.) They'll be announcing the dates sometime in June, I believe, so keep watching it.

[TojesDolan]

Hello guys. I have some questions about NIN:

first of all, I have the fragile CD. I bought it like 3-4 years ago, and never actually "listened" to it. So Based on Keeth's list I can start actually listening to it, but I need some more feedback on this one, I like some tracks, but It really freaked me out, for some reason....

On another note, I'm looking for NIN videos, And I remember only two that I want to watch: the first one is an instrumental, and it's about a journey through the sewer to some guys mouth. The other one is the video in which there's a man eating meat, and it's full of flies...That's all I remember about those. Help is very welcome. Thanks.

[Kage]

Hello guys. I have some questions about NIN:

first of all, I have the fragile CD. I bought it like 3-4 years ago, and never actually "listened" to it. So Based on Keeth's list I can start actually listening to it, but I need some more feedback on this one, I like some tracks, but It really freaked me out, for some reason....

On another note, I'm looking for NIN videos, And I remember only two that I want to watch: the first one is an instrumental, and it's about a journey through the sewer to some guys mouth. The other one is the video in which there's a man eating meat, and it's full of flies...That's all I remember about those. Help is very welcome. Thanks.
I don't really understand your question about The Fragile. It's my personal favorite NIN CD, and to me is a true masterpiece. You should sit down and listen all the way through it, and you'll probably appreciate it more. A lot of newer NIN fans like the Left disc better, which I do as well, but the Right disc has plenty of hidden gems. Just let yourself imagine what images are being painted by the sound. It's a really layered, huge album that focuses on soundscapes and ambience, so allow yourself to listen to it in that mindframe.

Videos...both the videos you described are from the EP, Broken. If you're a fan of the harder NIN stuff, then you'll love that disc. It's short, but it's full of really heavy material and has become a fan-favorite. I belive that the specific videos are for the songs "Pinion" and perhaps "Help Me I Am In Hell," but I'm not completely sure, as I haven't watched those videos in a long time. There's a VHS called Closure that will be released on DVD soon, and it has all the NIN videos, including the ones you're talking about. I've seen it available at Hollywood Video and Blockbuster, so you could probably track it down and rent it at one of those places. Also you can find most NIN videos at http://www.nin.com/visuals/index.html, so check around in there for songs you're interested in.

[BlindWriting]

The NIN videos have always been cool.
Happiness In Slavery was a bit... well, see for yourself.

[Moses]

Wow, I'm surprised how fresh the new NIN sounds. I just got it today. I love the disco beat in Only. Also Beside You In Time is briliant.

[Kage]

The NIN videos have always been cool.
Happiness In Slavery was a bit... well, see for yourself.
I was slightly thrown off the first time I saw that, but it's actually a pretty good video. Broken is my least favorite NIN release, though. My favorite NIN videos are Perfect Drug, Hurt, and Closer.

Wow, I'm surprised how fresh the new NIN sounds. I just got it today. I love the disco beat in Only. Also Beside You In Time is briliant.
With Teeth still growing on me wiht every listen. I've always loved it, but I just listened to it today and I was ecstatic afterwards. The ending stretch of the CD is absolutely great. It's a very cohesive record, and significantly more linear than the Fragile, but not in a bad way. The freshness is accounted for because of a style change, basically the more live-sounding drums and less layering, although there's plenty to be discovered as I learned with the 5.1 mix.

[Moses]

I was slightly thrown off the first time I saw that, but it's actually a pretty good video. Broken is my least favorite NIN release, though. My favorite NIN videos are Perfect Drug, Hurt, and Closer.


With Teeth still growing on me wiht every listen. I've always loved it, but I just listened to it today and I was ecstatic afterwards. The ending stretch of the CD is absolutely great. It's a very cohesive record, and significantly more linear than the Fragile, but not in a bad way. The freshness is accounted for because of a style change, basically the more live-sounding drums and less layering, although there's plenty to be discovered as I learned with the 5.1 mix.
Does Trent actually play the drums on the albums or does he use a drum machine? Is it even him on the recording? I've always been confused on that.

[Kage]

Does Trent actually play the drums on the albums or does he use a drum machine? Is it even him on the recording? I've always been confused on that.
For PHM and Broken, he used a drum machine, but on The Downward Spiral and The Fragile, he came up with the beats, but had a professional drummer play them. He would take the live, raw recordings and loop the parts he wanted and run them through a synth to give them different sounds. On With Teeth, Dave Grohl played drums on several of the tracks and, by the sound of it, it's more of a raw, live drum sound and not looped or synth-ed. I prefer "Trent-style" drums, but it makes for an interesting percussion section on With Teeth. Still, there's a lot of percussive sounds that he did himself, and I think used a drum machine for.

[Moses]

What about the other instruments?

[Kage]

What about the other instruments?
As far as I know, Trent plays guitar and bass on most of the songs. He does all the keyboards and synths, mixing, and a lot of production as well. He also puts in samples and all that good stuff.

[BlindWriting]

Did Jeordie White do any of the bass recording for WT?
And I know that another guitarist contributed to TF. Danny Lohner, I think.

[Kage]

Did Jeordie White do any of the bass recording for WT?
And I know that another guitarist contributed to TF. Danny Lohner, I think.
1. I don't know and 2. yes, that's who I was trying to think of for The Fragile.

[AIC/EAZY-E]

I never knew Manson sung the chorus with Trent on 'Gave Up'. In the video it has Trent, the band and Manson all playing the song, and Manson has no make-up. Back in his 'Sweet Dreams' days when he was a rr000ckka...not a shock rr000ckka.

[Magicaltroll]

The NIN videos have always been cool.
Happiness In Slavery was a bit... well, see for yourself.
:lol:
Man, that video was way weird...

[Kage]

I never knew Manson sung the chorus with Trent on 'Gave Up'. In the video it has Trent, the band and Manson all playing the song, and Manson has no make-up. Back in his 'Sweet Dreams' days when he was a rr000ckka...not a shock rr000ckka.
Although he doesn't actually play guitar on it, and he looks pretty awkward in that video. Richard Patrick is also in that video, who was NIN's touring guitarist in the early days, and who is now the frontman/writer of Filter.

[Moses]

Although he doesn't actually play guitar on it, and he looks pretty awkward in that video. Richard Patrick is also in that video, who was NIN's touring guitarist in the early days, and who is now the frontman/writer of Filter.
I love how Marilyn Manson plays a guitar in the video for Personal Jesus. He said himself that he doesn't play and that he only played it because it looked good. I thought it was funny.

[Kage]

Yep, he's a bit of a poseur, I think.

[Moses]

What can ya do.

[AIC/EAZY-E]

:amaze:

I take the rocker comment back, shame on you Brian Warner.

[deadinholywood]

Haha yeah brian is not what he used to be

Yes NIN are coming to melbourne
/Gives high fives to the melbourne NIN fans

/Goes to camp out in front of the ticket office

[TojesDolan]

To Kage:

Thanks man I'll get into that...I couldn't find the booklet for The Fragile, but I found it yesterday...I'll get to listen to that bastard...:thumb:
And yes it was "pinion" the first one, but the second one remains unknown...
To make this post more worthy, I would also like to add that...mmm...em.... well talking about Manson anyone has heard his former guitarist solo work (John5 I think)? I've read that it's pretty good.

[misunderstood]

I haven't heard John5's solo stuff either but I've also read it's pretty good.. Anyway, I thought Jeordie White did do some bass recordings for the album. Who knows, I could be wrong. Anyway, the day has finally arrived...NIN in Austin...I'm off! :D

[BlindWriting]

NIN to tour with Queens Of The Stone Age this fall, for a huge North American tour.







i.e. HOLY ****ING ****, YES!!!!!

[Kage]

NIN to tour with Queens Of The Stone Age this fall, for a huge North American tour.
Holy ****, that is going to kick ***. I pray to god that they will play the Toyota Center or something and not Woodlands Pavillion or Verizion.








To Kage:

Thanks man I'll get into that...I couldn't find the booklet for The Fragile, but I found it yesterday...I'll get to listen to that bastard...:thumb:
And yes it was "pinion" the first one, but the second one remains unknown...
To make this post more worthy, I would also like to add that...mmm...em.... well talking about Manson anyone has heard his former guitarist solo work (John5 I think)? I've read that it's pretty good.
No problem, I'm glad to see another person get into NIN. Make sure to tell us your thoughts.

[BlindWriting]

Holy ****, that is going to kick ***. I pray to god that they will play the Toyota Center or something and not Woodlands Pavillion or Verizion.
The second a New York City show goes on sale... oh man, I'm there. I do not want to miss them again.

[Kage]

I refuse to miss them again. They played here LAST NIGHT and I couldn't get scalped tickets. What a sour day that was.

[Magicaltroll]

Man... thats going to be an awesome tour.

[Werny]

NIN are coming to a city 3 hours drive from here in August.

But alas, I am young and need to save what money I have for Tool.

[BlindWriting]

Wow, "Right" side of TF really is an underrated gem.

[Kage]

Wow, "Right" side of TF really is an underrated gem.
I know. Everytime I listen to it, I always think about how little credit I give it. It deserves more. It's a little harder to get into and little weirder than Left, but it's still a great disc. Ripe (With Decay) blows my mind as an eerie instrumental.

[BlindWriting]

I know. Everytime I listen to it, I always think about how little credit I give it. It deserves more. It's a little harder to get into and little weirder than Left, but it's still a great disc. Ripe (With Decay) blows my mind as an eerie instrumental.
Yeah, I think today was the first time that I really, really loved listening to the "Right" side.

[Magicaltroll]

I love "The Big Comedown", it's such a great song. That disc is really great. There was a time when that was my favorite NIN CD. The right side that is. I mean, they've all been my favorites at one point in time.

[Kage]

The Fragile is my all time favorite, and that includes both discs. It's a big investment, but listening to the entire thing at all time is great. It's like two different stories that are connected and intertwined into each other. That's the way I see it.

[BlindWriting]

Picking apart the recurring themes and meanings is a lot of fun.

I love that "The Frail" could basically be an intro to both "The Wretched" and "The Fragile".

Also, the use of the "La Mer"/"Into The Void" keyboard themes, and combined with "The Great Below", all the references to the sea. There's so much more to understand and dissect. These are just the obvious things.

[Kage]

Picking apart the recurring themes and meanings is a lot of fun.

I love that "The Frail" could basically be an intro to both "The Wretched" and "The Fragile".

Also, the use of the "La Mer"/"Into The Void" keyboard themes, and combined with "The Great Below", all the references to the sea. There's so much more to understand and dissect. These are just the obvious things.
Yes, it's hard to keep track. For the The Frail/The Fragile, there's a part where the right-hand piano melody in the Fragile is the same melody as the Frail, and then a part where the right hand is the same...blah blah.

There's so much more, I can't think of anything. There are certain things that link the Left and Right sides, which really make it interesting...the most obvious being the repeated motif between La Mer and Into The Void.

[AIC/EAZY-E]

/bumped from 4th.

[Kage]

/revives thread.


It seems NIN will not be playing the MTV Movie awards. I'm actually quite glad about this, because playing an MTV event isn't exactly the most prestigious of shows. Besides, I can live without all the teeny-boppers singing THTF.

Thoughts?

[heavy metal kid]

/revives thread.


It seems NIN will not be playing the MTV Movie awards. I'm actually quite glad about this, because playing an MTV event isn't exactly the most prestigious of shows. Besides, I can live without all the teeny-boppers singing THTF.

Thoughts?

I think is a good thing, NIN doesn't fit in those kind of shows.

[nrvn55]

EDIT. nevermind...i just read the note on nin.com...it's pretty funny.

[System]

I've liked NiN for about 2 years now, they were my #1 band at least 3 times since i discovered new material over the years... I've been without listening to them for quite a while now, but i havent gotten into their new CD... I'm really looking forward to giving it one listen and putting the band back up into my favourites where they belong...

It's not a really crying shame that they aren't playing at the MTV movie awards, they would go un-appreciated in those kind of crowds...

[misunderstood]

Meh, I guess I won't be watching the awards then. LIke I said before, I usually don't watch the movie awards and this year the only reason i was looking forward to the event was because NIN were going to be performing. Seems like Foo Fighters have replaced them. Oh well.

Anyway, I saw NIN in Austin this past Wednesday...it was an awesome show! It was so d@mn hot though...Reznor even took a second to mention how hot it was that day, heh. "Hurt" was beautiful as was "Something I Can Never Have"..."Head LIke a Hole" and "Burn" were fu(kin'g great...The whole thing was great. Before the show started Jerome Dillon walked right through the middle of the crowd and no one recognized him. I wanted to approach him and ask for an autograph but for some reason, I just didn't move.. :upset: ...Then Aaron North went by and him I did approach but he was in a hurry so he told me he'd give me a picture after the show... :upset: ...Bummer. It was a great night though..I did manage to get an autograph and picture of Dillon after the show though...Now I'm looking forward this fall tour with QOTSA...should be great! :D

[Kage]

Lucky bastard. They played here on Tuesday, and I went to the venue to try and get scalped tickets, but I only found one person selling and he wanted to get $300 a piece for them. Sorry, pal. He went in and never even sold them. Ha!

Anyway, I think Trent is being an idiot to try and "stand strong" for what he wants. It's like, since when has anyone ever listened to NIN for political messages? Suddenly we all give a **** that you don't like Bush? I don't know, I never agreed with him playing on MTV anyway.

[Moses]

Lucky bastard. They played here on Tuesday, and I went to the venue to try and get scalped tickets, but I only found one person selling and he wanted to get $300 a piece for them. Sorry, pal. He went in and never even sold them. Ha!

Anyway, I think Trent is being an idiot to try and "stand strong" for what he wants. It's like, since when has anyone ever listened to NIN for political messages? Suddenly we all give a **** that you don't like Bush? I don't know, I never agreed with him playing on MTV anyway.
Next thing you know the preppy cheerleader is gonna be bopping her head to THTF.

[Kage]

:lol: That's what I'm afraid of.

[Moses]

Well I don't mind them getting popular, it's just I hate when people only know the radio stuff.

[Kage]

Yeah, that's what I was getting at. I'm not one of these people who refuses to listen to anything that's popular.

[Moses]

I know this.

[Kage]

Well, it looks like we're on the same page here.

PS. Chopin is amazing.


EDIT: No pun intended, although it worked out nicely.

[Moses]

Well, it looks like we're on the same page here.

PS. Chopin is amazing.


EDIT: No pun intended, although it worked out nicely.
Well now we're on the same page......


Anyway I'm glad that you enjoy him, I had a feeling you would, being a Tool fan and all.

[repcak]

i can understand that Trent wanted to play on the MTV Movie Awards, but i can't believe trent started to make political statements!! :upset:
Once i read in an interview that THTF is a political one, i couldn't believe it!! since now....

It's horrible.
And because i hate MTV and i Hate listening to radio (any kind of radio) because they are playing only shi(t), and i hate everything thats popular and hip... i am SOOOO HAPPY i am not going to see a (f)***in' cheerleder who sings along the song ...

ps.: @Kage: when you really want to learn german.... you have to write 'Gott die Maschine' and not 'Gott der Maschine'
/me is from austria :thumb:

[Kage]

That's odd... I am actually learning German, and I thought that was grammatically correct. That sucks, too, because Gott der Maschine looks a lot coolor :p.

I know that Maschine is a feminine noun, so its Nominativ article would be die, but I'm saying "God of the machine," so wouldn't it switch to the Dativ case?

[G_Mac07]

Just a note to any Aussies (probably NZ's as well) on this board that The Red Paintings have put themselves foward as candidates to support NIN on there down under tour. They also have a fairly decent chance at being selected as an opening act I hear (unreliable source), but I suggest you give them a look anyway. Downloads are available from their site (http://www.theredpaintings.com).

Also, tickets for Aus shows go on sale this Monday :D

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Well now we're on the same page......


Anyway I'm glad that you enjoy him, I had a feeling you would, being a Tool fan and all.

I actually dislike a lot of Tool fans. A lot of them are crazy, pretentious, or moronic fanboys.

That doesn't apply to the Tool fans on this board, who I happen to like, but a lot of Tool fans you talk to wouldn't give Chopin the time of day. :-/

I enjoy his sonatas a lot though. :)

[repcak]

That's odd... I am actually learning German, and I thought that was grammatically correct. That sucks, too, because Gott der Maschine looks a lot coolor :p.

I know that Maschine is a feminine noun, so its Nominativ article would be die, but I'm saying "God of the machine," so wouldn't it switch to the Dativ case?

when you say: "god is a machine" you write "gott die maschine"
but when you prefer "god of the machine" you have to write: "gott der maschine" -> so it's right ...
sorry (my mistake) i thought, you meant "god the machine" :thumb:

[repcak]

i want to make music for myself, but i don't want to play in a band.
i want to do it alone... like trent with a computer.

Do you know which software trent uses? are programmes like 'audio logic' good to make music? i don't wanna make 'techno'-sound, i want to make this NIN-sound :D

PHM was made only by trent and his computer/software.....

[Kage]

If you have a Windows/PC computer, then there are several options, but they're fairly expensive, unless you have alternate means of aqcuiring them, if you know what I mean.

I don't know about Audio Logic, but on his latest stuff, Trent uses ProTools, which is an Apple program that is pretty much the pinnacle of professional audio software. If you have a Mac, then you can use Garageband, which is an extremely easy-to-use but good quality program, and I think you'd have best results with that.

[repcak]

it's always an apple/mac ...
my sister is making a film academy in spain/barcelona and she has an mac-notebook... but i use only windows (2yrs ago even linux - but i deleted it).
Everywhere when you plan to do 'artistic'-stuff (films, music, graphics,...) you die without an apple :evil:

is there a possibility to run ProTools under windows? to convert it?

[Kage]

it's always an apple/mac ...
my sister is making a film academy in spain/barcelona and she has an mac-notebook... but i use only windows (2yrs ago even linux - but i deleted it).
Everywhere when you plan to do 'artistic'-stuff (films, music, graphics,...) you die without an apple :evil:

is there a possibility to run ProTools under windows? to convert it?
I don't think you can run ProTools on Windows, no. But you definately can get just as good, if not better, ameteur recording on a Windows. It just tends to be more expensive and possibly a little harder to get acquainted with, but in the end the main thing about Macs is that they make everything easy.

I'm a Windows person myself, but for recording I always use Garageband, which is a Mac program, so I can't offer too much advice on recording on Windows.

[The_Shredder]

To really run protools you need a protools compatible rig. There are demos out there that you can run on a PC or Mac, but for the real deal you need the hardware too.

Anyone wanting to go the home recording route, buying a Mac is a nobrainer.

[repcak]

thanks.
i will try out audio logic first, i think ( i can get it from a friend). it is a mac software but runs even on windows :thumb:

ps.: don't let this thread die !!! (42 sites, 1037posts....)

[Magicaltroll]

So anyone thought of doing the cover thread thing?
I was thinking we could do an acoustic version of a song.
Like maybe Hurt or Something I can Never Have or something like that.


Good idea? Lame idea?

[Magicaltroll]

Anyone?

[ATM]

Would it be just you playing?

[Magicaltroll]

Well, I thought that all of us could do a part in it. Like one of us guitar, one vocals, one drums and bass, like all the other threads that are participating.

I have a pretty bad voice I think so I couldn't do it by myself.

[PeEpHoLe_10]

This is my first post in here, because i am just starting to get into NIN. Im going to see Them in Sydney in August with my mate because he really likes them. NIN are meant to be really good live I have heard, is this true?

[repcak]

yes, peephole_10, it is true... they are amazing live :D :D and in exactly one week i am gonna see them live in vienna *hip-hip-hurra* :thumb:

[deadinholywood]

Yep they are amazing live im seeing them in melbourne soon and im pants wettingly excited!

[clearvision]

May be able to rustle up somethign on keyboards though it's tough getting music + recording...

I can play guitar, but I'm sure someone else will take guitar...

But I'm in for this if theres a space :thumb: Kage might do the singing, I think he ahs a voice :-*

[repcak]

i play guitar, but i don't have the possibility to record something.... but i am not sure, i never tried it :)

but wait... a friend plays in a band and they have a record studio! :wave: ... so i will be able to record something.
but i think i would not have the time to do it :upset: ... hm... if really NOBODY will take up guitar i will make it....

[Kage]

I would like to do something with, most likely guitar. I don't know any NIN songs on guitar, though. I think it would be cool like Magicaltroll said, to do an acoustic, or a soft song so there's not too many layers of synths and weird distortion sound.

[Magicaltroll]

I would like to do something with, most likely guitar. I don't know any NIN songs on guitar, though. I think it would be cool like Magicaltroll said, to do an acoustic, or a soft song so there's not too many layers of synths and weird distortion sound.
Yeah, I was really wanting to do Hurt.
So Kage, you don't want to? Because I think I remember you saying that you sing.

[clearvision]

Easiest song to do and make parts etc would be the hand that feeds...

Hurt would be very easy acoustic...though attempts could be made to distort it up, add some better drums....

If you record the guitars for hurt, I'm sure someone will sing for you.

[Magicaltroll]

Easiest song to do and make parts etc would be the hand that feeds...

Hurt would be very easy acoustic...though attempts could be made to distort it up, add some better drums....

If you record the guitars for hurt, I'm sure someone will sing for you.
Ok, I'll probably do that sometime this week. Because I have to study for exams and all that stuff...

[Kage]

Eh, I can't sing like Trent Reznor. He has such a distinctive voice, I think I'd ruin it.

[repcak]

nobody can sing exactly like trent

[Salivation]

Trent is probably on my list for one of the best vocalists.

[repcak]

Trent is probably on my list for one of the best vocalists.

:thumb:
(together with maynard james keenan & Robert Plant)

[G_Mac07]

*Bump*

I spent $80 on a ticket to go see NIN in August the other day, and since then I've been wondering what the atmosphere at NIN shows is generally like. Anyone care to fill me in?

[repcak]

i will be able to tell you ... exactly 47hours and 32minutes left till concert :thumb:

[Kaden]

I have a question about Hurt. When I listen to it, during the verses it kind of crackles i one ear. Is that just my copy, or does everyone's do that?

[G_Mac07]

i will be able to tell you ... exactly 47hours and 32minutes left till concert :thumb:

Thanks, I'll look foward to a concert review :p

Have fun.

[evilmenhavenosongs]

I couldn't tell you, I've never noticed it before but who knows.

Does anybody else have problems downloading the pdf to go with With Teeth? I click on the link but it just doesn't download.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Okay, I've been listening to With Teeth, The Fragile, and TDS. I think that The Fragile is by far their best work. The two disc album set is just a wonderful album. I can't think of one song I dislike. Plus, it's very experimental and each song varies. You have your bad@ss songs like No, You Don't and Starfvckers, you have your beautiful melodic songs like La Mer, and experimental songs like Into The Void.

Man, I just love this album.

[repcak]

Thanks, I'll look foward to a concert review :p

Have fun.

you'll get my review. i will post how it was on wednesday morning :wave:

@In Chains 36: yeah, another NIN-fan born

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Nah, I've always been a casual fan. But I'd never listened to all of the albums in depth. I don't like Pretty Hate Machine nor do I like With Teeth all that much.

The Fragile is pure brilliance, though. TDS is pretty awesome too.

[Illmatic]

Okay, I've been listening to With Teeth, The Fragile, and TDS. I think that The Fragile is by far their best work. The two disc album set is just a wonderful album. I can't think of one song I dislike. Plus, it's very experimental and each song varies. You have your bad@ss songs like No, You Don't and Starfvckers, you have your beautiful melodic songs like La Mer, and experimental songs like Into The Void.

Man, I just love this album.

I wasn't too keen on The Fragile, to be honest...it tended to lag (as just about all double-albums do, even the almost-perfect Stankonia dragged in some parts)

My personal favorite is Pretty Hate Machine, but I'm probably alone there.

[evilmenhavenosongs]

Everytime I listen to TDS, which I often do. I hear a song or two like I'm only hearing it for the first time, not that it was forgettable, just that it always seems fresh.

I do love With Teeth just as much as any of the other albums though. NIN seem to be one of the only bands that I can enjoy listening to every song released. (Woah, grammar.) Star****ers is an amazing song.

At the moment, one of my favourites is Something I Can Never have and Terrible Lie.

[repcak]

how great is that:

NIN_vienna (http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=14739&stc=1)

:rolleyes: :p

ps.: how can i make this image visible? i mean without a link... that you see it on this thread?

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

I didn't like Pretty Hate Machine because it sounded too... 80s.... Except Head Like A Hole, which is another bad@ss song. It's a little too caught up in the chorus, though and it drags on.

[Sleeper]

Pretty Hate Machine was almost new wave sounding.

[Illmatic]

I actually kinda liked that Pretty Hate Machine was new wave sounding.

[Kage]

*Bump*

I spent $80 on a ticket to go see NIN in August the other day, and since then I've been wondering what the atmosphere at NIN shows is generally like. Anyone care to fill me in?
As Med said, it's supposed to be intense, crazy, but very very cool.

I have a question about Hurt. When I listen to it, during the verses it kind of crackles i one ear. Is that just my copy, or does everyone's do that?
Yep, that's part of the white noise in the background of that song. Very Trent.


Okay, I've been listening to With Teeth, The Fragile, and TDS. I think that The Fragile is by far their best work. The two disc album set is just a wonderful album. I can't think of one song I dislike. Plus, it's very experimental and each song varies. You have your bad@ss songs like No, You Don't and Starfvckers, you have your beautiful melodic songs like La Mer, and experimental songs like Into The Void.

Man, I just love this album.
123456. In my opinion the best NIN album and one of my favorite albums of all time. Not necessarily the most important NIN release (obviously that would be TDS), but still the best. It covers everything in one epic release.


I actually kinda liked that Pretty Hate Machine was new wave sounding.
I agree, but I'm glad he moved on.

[Illmatic]

I agree, but I'm glad he moved on.

Yeah, I don't think another album like that would have worked.

[Jawaharal]

I have only TDS and with teeth should I consider getting the fragile or broken

[evilmenhavenosongs]

I love PHM. Amazing that he recorded it all himself. You should consider getting that one, so many classics on it.

[Kage]

I have only TDS and with teeth should I consider getting the fragile or broken
Get the Fragile and Pretty Hate Machine. If you really love the harder, guitar-driven edge of NIN, then Broken is always a good one. It's my least favorite of all NIN albums, because it doesn't flow with the progression like the main albums do.

My highest recommendations go to The Fragile.

[Magicaltroll]

My highest recommendations go to The Fragile.
Yeah, I showed some people TDS expecting them to love it, but they just can't get into it. Which is pretty dumb because I keep forgetting that when I wasn't that into NIN, I really disliked that album. But now that I see everything that goes on with it and its conept and the mood, I love it.

[Sleeper]

Fragile is the total package of what NIN is capable of.