Lord Of The Rings Or The Matrix?

[Yppolitia]

Which trilogy do you like more?

[Timm]

Lotr

[Dr Funkenstein]

Lord Of The Rings - I thought the matrix just got quite silly after the first film. It turned into a big dumb action film and lost the high coolness factor of the original. Plus the ghosts with long dreads should have been Dutch. Unforgivable mistake.

[^Dream~Theater^]

Lotr

[thedeadwalk!]

LOTR. no comparison.

[See you auntie!]

The first Matrix movie > LOTR trilogy.

Sadly, two horrible, HORRIBLE sequels followed, so I'm going to go with LOTR on this one.

[theredwonder]

Losers Own This Ridiculous thread

[EIRIK]

dont critizise

[theredwonder]

Hidden messages > n00bs

[ANewHope]

Lord of the Rings by far.

[Interstate]

definitely LOTR.

the Matrix trilogy was blighted by two horrible sequels...LOTR wasn't.

[Cain]

LOTR by far.

BTW, anybody that hasn't read cleolinda's "Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Askaban in fifteen minutes" post on livejournal needs to google it right now. It had me in stitches.

(Hopefully there hasn't already been a thread about that or something...don't come in here often)

[Rancid Dan]

I've never seen the last two Matrix films. But the first one was amazing.
I don't like LOTR, it bores me.

[charryb]

The first Matrix movie > LOTR trilogy.

Sadly, two horrible, HORRIBLE sequels followed, so I'm going to go with LOTR on this one.

totally agree with that

[OperationWalrus]

Me too! LOTR is an amazing trilogy anyway, much better than one good matrix film.

[theredwonder]

I've never seen the last two Matrix films. But the first one was amazing.
I don't like LOTR, it bores me.

Your avatar and your opinion concerning LOTR contradict each other.

[Let's Chop Cats!]

It's uncomparable.

[Rancid Dan]

Your avatar and your opinion concerning LOTR contradict each other.

Oh, right yeah. I forgot Link from ZELDA is in LOTR !

[Gnarmageddon]

Lord of the Rings. Hands down.

[theredwonder]

Oh, right yeah. I forgot Link from ZELDA is in LOTR !

Is he?

I was talking about how your avatar is cool, yet your opinion concerning LOTR is ****.

[iliketoplaydrums10111]

Lotr

[Rancid Dan]

Is he?

I was talking about how your avatar is cool, yet your opinion concerning LOTR is ****.

I just have never got into it. My brothers obsession with it has put me off it.
I probably will get into it sometime.

[Esp Griffyn]

Neither, I thought they both sucked.

[Burdcheese]

Matrix

The easiest question I have ever been asked

[Xybex]

LOTR - Read the books, didn't like them. Saw the first film, found it true to the book. Didn't like it.

Matrix - Saw the first and loved it. Saw the second and fell asleep. Never saw the third.

[theredwonder]

Matrix

The easiest question I have ever been asked

Yet you still got it wrong. Unlucky.

[ZaaR]

No contest, LOTR.

[guitrguy]

Lotr

[Burdcheese]

Yet you still got it wrong. Unlucky.

:rolleyes: LOTR Fan-boyism

[theredwonder]

Not as bad as HP fanboys.

Aar i like that too, shizzle...

[Burdcheese]

Not as bad as HP fanboys.

Aar i like that too, shizzle...

On that we are agreed

[Thor]

LOTR definetly.

[TheInfamousFlatline]

absolutely Lord of the Rings. The first Matrix was really really really cool, but it just can't beat Lord of the Rings. (The Lord of the Rings books were better than the movies though..) I really like the symbolism in Lord of the Rings, too. The whole trilogy completely rocks. :3

[ok lateralus]

There's no doubt about it, Lord of the Rings is a much better trilogy. The first Matrix was very interesting, but still not perfect or anything. The second was just mediocre, kind of sucked... and the third... well, you know. Lord of the Rings is so much better.

[davey]

lotr definately.

[guitrguy]

:rolleyes: LOTR Fan-boyism
No the acting and storyline is much more solid.

[Pazz]

Lord of the Rings. It's sad to say I'm a big fan of Lord of the Rings because I just watched the Return of the King Saturday night for the first time. No one would take me to see it in theatres and I sure the hell wasn't going alone. Their great movies though!! And the Matrix... haven't seen one yet.

[FishSauce]

L.O.T.R.

The Matrix triology is still good though.

[thedeadwalk!]

i like to think of the matrix trilogy as a lifeguard on his stand (by a pool). the first one is the lifeguard proudly sitting on his stand surveying his domain, and rescuing the the helpless (aka. those looking for a good movie). the second one is the lifeguard trying to come down from his stand to save someone. however, he trips on his way down and hits his head on the concrete beside the pool. and lays unconcious. the third, a couple of hoodlums come by and think it'd be funny to push him in the pool. and thus, the once proud lifeguard now lies unconcious at the bottom of the pool, waiting to die.

[CaptainWaits]

I don't think either of them are that great, but I'd have to say LOTR

[Little Man being Erased]

Considering the second and third Matrix films were a steaming pile of crap... I'd go with LOTR.

[Kurtz]

LOTR.

Matrix sucked after the first.

[Lionheart1827]

LOTR without a doubt.

I was floored when I saw the Fellowship. It was my favorite of the 3 films with Return of the King coming in 2nd.

The first Matrix movie owned, but the 2 sequels werent that good. :thumb:

[red barchetta]

LOTR definately

matrix reloaded was not bad, but revolutions... terrible. its all about the kung-fu fighting, not crappy machines and superman-style fighting!!!

[See you auntie!]

The Dragonball-esque fight between Neo and agent Smith was the only good thing about Revolutions.

[meltedmagnet]

so the first film of both were great...the second of both were ok...the third lotr was a HUGE letdown, the third matrix was a not-so-huge letdown, plus the first matrix is better than the rest of these movies combined, so i'ma go with the matrix. yeah.

[Jonny]

so the first film of both were great...the second of both were ok...the third lotr was a HUGE letdown, the third matrix was a not-so-huge letdown, plus the first matrix is better than the rest of these movies combined, so i'ma go with the matrix. yeah.
Your opinion sucks.



I thought Matrix 1&2 were alright. Matrix 3 sucked so very very bad.
LOTR was consistantly great. So LOTR.

[Systemhead]

I'll take three great action films (Matrix) over three poorly paced, overrated and highly predictable movies (LotR).

LotR has too many cop-out moments, a boring story that I found predictable even though I haven't read the novels, the story was also pretty underwhelming and the ending to RotK dragged on far too long.

In contrast, the Matrix films weren't very predictable, had Agent Smith (one of the coolest and most enigmatic film villains of the past decade), and had amazing action sequences.

[Systemhead]

Your opinion sucks.



I thought Matrix 1&2 were alright. Matrix 3 sucked so very very bad.
LOTR was consistantly great. So LOTR.

The thing I find nearly universally consistent amongst the people who hated Revolutions is that they really truly didn't understand the complex storyline set forth by the Wachowskis that was explored further in the Animatrix. Most people seem to think the ending to Revolutions was a cop-out, but it was actually very well-done and original.

I'm so glad they didn't go for the cheesy "we finally completed our quest and defeated teh evil!!11!" ending of LotR. They instead have Neo sacrifice himself to gain a truce between Zion and the Machines. Now humans and machines grudgingly have to try to coexist. This type of ending is FAR more realistic especially in our world.

It is up to the viewer to speculate wether the truce will last. The most commonly accepted prediction is that it won't last because it is in human nature to conquer others. It is proven every day that us humans find it near impossible to coexist with our own kind (look at the violence in the Middle East and all around the world that stem from power-hungry national leaders) let alone an entirely different species that has enslaved us for hundreds of years in the past.

I could go on and on talking about many facet of the Matrix from themes to religious symbolism, but I'll end my post here.

Edit: I will concede however that the movies were FAR from perfect. The acting was mediocre (with the exception of Agent Smith) and some of the lines were a tad self-important/cheesy. Still better than LotR imo. I've seen longer movies than LotR that don't drag on and on like it. LotR was just poorly paced due to Peter Jackson trying to fit each seperate book into one movie.

[Systemhead]

No the acting and storyline is much more solid.

Acting? Yes.

Storyline? No.

[ok lateralus]

I don't know how anyone can place the Matrix higher than LOTR.

[theredwonder]

one of the coolest and most enigmatic film villains of the past decade

You found him enigmatic? Either you don't understand the film, or you're an idiot. He was a robot - bland, annoying and obvious.


This type of ending is FAR more realistic especially in our world.

Which would make it great, if the film was meant to be realistic in any way.


I could go on and on talking about every facet of the Matrix from themes to religious symbolism, but I'll end my post here.

Make that "all my posts" and we have a deal.


You can say all you want about Revolutions, but the simple fact is that it sucked. The acting was appauling, the storyline was midly interesting at best. The action was ridiculous, leaving the entertaining kung-fu style of the earlier films in exchange for down right idiocy.

The ending was proposterous. Original? You need to get your Matrix fanboy head out of your *** and watch some better films.

[Still Life]

Lord Of The Rings definitly. The only good Matrix was the first one.

[Jonny]

The thing I find nearly universally consistent amongst the people who hated Revolutions is that they really truly didn't understand the complex storyline set forth by the Wachowskis that was explored further in the Animatrix. Most people seem to think the ending to Revolutions was a cop-out, but it was actually very well-done and original. (Read: Anticlimax)

I'm so glad they didn't go for the cheesy "we finally completed our quest and defeated teh evil!!11!" ending of LotR (Most movies with that kinda ending copied the LOTR books. They can't change the ending for the films). They instead have Neo sacrifice himself to gain a truce between Zion and the Machines (Wow. Original. No one's ever sacrificed themselves for the good of mankind before...Only that one Jebus guy no one's ever heard of!). Now humans and machines grudgingly have to try to coexist. This type of ending is FAR more realistic especially in our world. (Yeah, I sense such hostility from my toaster in the morning!)

It is up to the viewer to speculate wether the truce will last. (You mean they left the door open for more money-grabbing from the franchise?) The most commonly accepted prediction is that it won't last because it is in human nature to conquer others. It is proven every day that us humans find it near impossible to coexist with our own kind (look at the violence in the Middle East and all around the world that stem from power-hungry national leaders) let alone an entirely different species that has enslaved us for hundreds of years in the past. (You say we're not thinking enough- I say you're thinking way too deep)

I could go on and on talking about many facet of the Matrix from themes to religious symbolism, but I'll end my post here. (Thank God for that!)

Edit: (So you're not ending your post there?!) I will concede however that the movies were FAR from perfect.(Read: Crap) The acting was mediocre (Read: Poor) (with the exception of Agent Smith (Read: Elrond) ) and some of the lines were a tad self-important/cheesy (Crap) . Still better than LotR imo. I've seen longer movies than LotR that don't drag on and on like it. (Me senses you have a short attention span then) LotR was just poorly paced due to Peter Jackson trying to fit each seperate book into one movie. (And the Matrix was poorly paced due to the Wackoffski brothers trying to stretch one story into two sequels)
So I annotated your argument. Take a while to think about it.

[Systemhead]

lmao jonzey, your just proving my point of how ignorant most Matrix-haters are.

So most films with cheesy boring endings copied LotR? That makes LotR good how?

You call the Matrix a money-grubbing franchise. How many LotR DVDs have been released? Those money-grubbing hack Peter Jackson and New Line Cinema have been spitting out Special-Editions, Extended Cuts, and gift sets for years and the LotR fanboys are going to continue shelling out money for the new giftset just because it comes in a box. In contrast, there is oonly one DVD version of each Matrix film and one conclusive DVD Box-set that actually has 5-disks of new features instead of just rehashing the same DVDs and throwing them in a box to milk the cash-cow. And the milking doesn't stop there. They also keep milking LotR in the form of videogames that literally just rip-off other games in that genre.

I said I've watched movies longer than LotR that don't feel as long as LotR because they are actually interesting and not boring, yet you say that somehow means I have a short attention span. Nope, I just don't like watching trite movies.

The trouble with you is that you like cookie-cutter films like LotR that don't have to be looked further into because the story is so one-dimensional and self-explanatory.

The rest of your post was filled with despicablt lame one-liners that I have trouble believing even the most flamboyant LotR fantwat could believe.

[Klown]

The first Matrix movie was awesome....

LOTR.

[Jonny]

lmao jonzey, your just proving my point of how ignorant most Matrix-haters are.

So most films with cheesy boring endings copied LotR? That makes LotR good how?

You call the Matrix a money-grubbing franchise. How many LotR DVDs have been released? Those money-grubbing hack Peter Jackson and New Line Cinema have been spitting out Special-Editions, Extended Cuts, and gift sets for years and the LotR fanboys are going to continue shelling out money for the new giftset just because it comes in a box. In contrast, there is oonly one DVD version of each Matrix film and one conclusive DVD Box-set that actually has 5-disks of new features instead of just rehashing the same DVDs and throwing them in a box to milk the cash-cow. And the milking doesn't stop there. They also keep milking LotR in the form of videogames that literally just rip-off other games in that genre.

I said I've watched movies longer than LotR that don't feel as long as LotR because they are actually interesting and not boring, yet you say that somehow means I have a short attention span. Nope, I just don't like watching trite movies.

The trouble with you is that you like cookie-cutter films like LotR that don't have to be looked further into because the story is so one-dimensional and self-explanatory.

The rest of your post was filled with despicablt lame one-liners that I have trouble believing even the most flamboyant LotR fantwat could believe.
I don't hate the matrix. I loved Matrix 1 and 2. It was 3 which was extremely crap.

Also, FYI, there are special editions of each of the Matrix movies too. I own the first one. And there's the Animatrix. And video games too.

Only thing is, to 'understand' the complexity of the Matrix, you need to buy all of the stuff and watch all the movies. The original trilogy leaves huuuge gaps in the story, and oh look! We need to get all this other stuff just to understand the story!

I like the Matrix. I like Lord of the Rings. It's YOU I don't like.

[Systemhead]

You found him enigmatic? Either you don't understand the film, or you're an idiot. He was a robot - bland, annoying and obvious.

I don't understand film? That's just a blanket statement that doesn't mean anything. You obviously don't understand Agent Smith's transformation in the films and all of the religious and societal overtones expressed in his character.

Which would make it great, if the film was meant to be realistic in any way.

The films have many themes, both obvious and not so obvious, that relate to the real world.

Make that "all my posts" and we have a deal.

I=Owned. :upset:

You can say all you want about Revolutions, but the simple fact is that it sucked. The acting was appauling, the storyline was midly interesting at best. The action was ridiculous, leaving the entertaining kung-fu style of the earlier films in exchange for down right idiocy.

Obviously, if you don't understand the story (which you don't) you won't like the story.

The ending was proposterous. Original? You need to get your Matrix fanboy head out of your *** and watch some better films.

Oh yeah, I forgot about all of those Sci-fi movies that involve the protagonist sacrificing himself in order to balance out the equation in a computer program and in turn force a truce between man and machines. :rolleyes:

[Systemhead]

I don't hate the matrix. I loved Matrix 1 and 2. It was 3 which was extremely crap.

Also, FYI, there are special editions of each of the Matrix movies too. I own the first one. And there's the Animatrix. And video games too.

Only thing is, to 'understand' the complexity of the Matrix, you need to buy all of the stuff and watch all the movies. The original trilogy leaves huuuge gaps in the story, and oh look! We need to get all this other stuff just to understand the story!

I like the Matrix. I like Lord of the Rings. It's YOU I don't like.

By "Matrix-hater" I mean someone who likes to rag on the Matrix for having a crappy story (which it does not) or has some other ignorant complaint of the film. The fact of the matter is that all three of the films are better than nearly all of the mainstream Hollywood action films that have been released in the past decade (notable exceptions being Terminator 2 and Kill Bill).

I thought Fellowship of the Ring was good. Two Towers was also fairly good. Return of the King however was pretty underwhelming and mediocre. For some reason most LotR fans dislike the Matrix, so my Matrix praising usually goes hand-in-hand with explaining that the LotR movies aren't that great.

Also, there aren't any special-editions of M2 and M3. There's also only one Matrix videogame compared to 4 LotR games. And the Animatrix doesn't count as milkinng because it was actually really good and had high production-values. You said that the Matrix franchise was being milked, but it is obvious that the LotR franchise has been milked FAR more.

Watching the Animatrix to help understand the Matrix story isn't a chore. The Animatrix is worth the money because it is genuinely interesting, stylish, and complex.

[Jonny]

By "Matrix-hater" I mean someone who likes to rag on the Matrix for having a crappy story (which it does not) or has some other ignorant complaint of the film. The fact of the matter is that all three of the films are better than nearly all of the mainstream Hollywood action films that have been released in the past decade (notable exceptions being Terminator 2 and Kill Bill).

I thought Fellowship of the Ring was good. Two Towers was also fairly good. Return of the King however was pretty underwhelming and mediocre. For some reason most LotR fans dislike the Matrix, so my Matrix praising usually goes hand-in-hand with explaining that the LotR movies aren't that great.

Also, there aren't any special-editions of M2 and M3. There's also only one Matrix videogame compared to 4 LotR games. And the Animatrix doesn't count as milkinng because it was actually really good and had high production-values. You said that the Matrix franchise was being milked, but it is obvious that the LotR franchise has been milked FAR more.

Watching the Animatrix to help understand the Matrix story isn't a chore. The Animatrix is worth the money because it is genuinely interesting, stylish, and complex.
So the point you have been trying to get across for at least four long posts now is that you like the Matrix trilogy, and you don't like LOTR.

Now why couldn't you just put that in one sentance?

[Systemhead]

So the point you have been trying to get across for at least four long posts now is that you like the Matrix trilogy, and you don't like LOTR.

Now why couldn't you just put that in one sentance?


Beause I've been responding to people criticizing my posts. Der.

[+3kk!]

Lotr...........nuff said

matrix sucked after the first,flying cars? man that put me off...even though it's not reality

[Yoda D'Kana]

Lotr...........nuff said

matrix sucked after the first,flying cars? man that put me off...even though it's not realityI understand what you mean, I'd also rather have my films grounded in the firm reality of elves, dwarves, wizards and a ring with the power to rule the universe.

[Systemhead]

Flying cars?! What the f are you talking about? You sure you weren't watching Back to the Future? There were hovercrafts in all three Matrix films and they functioned in a way that could become reality in the future.

[Yoda D'Kana]

Flying cars?! What the f are you talking about? You sure you weren't watching Back to the Future? There were hovercrafts in all three Matrix films and they functioned in a way that could become reality in the future....with magic Jesus-dust?

[Jonny]

...with magic Jesus-dust?
It's now called Neo-dust. Since he essentially became Jebus.

[Tyrant21]

By "Matrix-hater" I mean someone who likes to rag on the Matrix for having a crappy story (which it does not) or has some other ignorant complaint of the film. The fact of the matter is that all three of the films are better than nearly all of the mainstream Hollywood action films that have been released in the past decade (notable exceptions being Terminator 2 and Kill Bill).

I thought Fellowship of the Ring was good. Two Towers was also fairly good. Return of the King however was pretty underwhelming and mediocre. For some reason most LotR fans dislike the Matrix, so my Matrix praising usually goes hand-in-hand with explaining that the LotR movies aren't that great.

Also, there aren't any special-editions of M2 and M3. There's also only one Matrix videogame compared to 4 LotR games. And the Animatrix doesn't count as milkinng because it was actually really good and had high production-values. You said that the Matrix franchise was being milked, but it is obvious that the LotR franchise has been milked FAR more.

Watching the Animatrix to help understand the Matrix story isn't a chore. The Animatrix is worth the money because it is genuinely interesting, stylish, and complex.
ok, with most lotr fans dsliking the matrix, I think you mean most PEOPLE dislike the matrix. The first one was great, but the whole robots controlling the world concept aint anything new. There will soon be 3 matrix games, and the first one was one of the worst games ever. And the Animatrix is undoubtedly milking the franchise, I think the extended eidtions of the lotr movies are awesome editions to the series, but I wont deny they are milking the series.

Reloaded and revolutions are nowhere near some of the best movies in the last decade, that statemnet is completely moronic. I'd even take alien vs. predator over those movies.

[theredwonder]

Systemhead: I refuse to argue with you, as you seem to care more about the politics of a film than it's overall quality. This makes you an idiot.

[Jonny]

Systemhead: I refuse to argue with you, as you seem to care more about the politics of a film than it's overall quality. This make you an idiot.
Well said.

[Systemhead]

...with magic Jesus-dust?

:lol:

[Systemhead]

ok, with most lotr fans dsliking the matrix, I think you mean most PEOPLE dislike the matrix. The first one was great, but the whole robots controlling the world concept aint anything new. There will soon be 3 matrix games, and the first one was one of the worst games ever. And the Animatrix is undoubtedly milking the franchise, I think the extended eidtions of the lotr movies are awesome editions to the series, but I wont deny they are milking the series.

Reloaded and revolutions are nowhere near some of the best movies in the last decade, that statemnet is completely moronic. I'd even take alien vs. predator over those movies.

I said the Matrix films are "some of the best Hollywood action films of the past decade," not "one of the best films of the past decade." And that's not an opinion, that's fact.

The mere fact that you've even see Alien vs. Predator means that you have no tastes.

Enter the Matrix- The worst game ever made? No.
A slightly above average game? Yes.

[Systemhead]

Systemhead: I refuse to argue with you, as you seem to care more about the politics of a film than it's overall quality. This makes you an idiot.

:confused:

No, that's actually not the slightest bit true.

Face it, you didn't bother replying to any of the rebuttles I made in my post because you couldn't. So in a sense, you've been owned. :thumb:

[theredwonder]

No, that's actually not the slightest bit true.

Well done, you just convinced me. Now stfu.

I understand, i was once a fool like you. You just need to... oh wait, no i wasn't.

[ok lateralus]

You call the Matrix a money-grubbing franchise. How many LotR DVDs have been released? Those money-grubbing hack Peter Jackson and New Line Cinema have been spitting out Special-Editions, Extended Cuts, and gift sets for years and the LotR fanboys are going to continue shelling out money for the new giftset just because it comes in a box. In contrast, there is oonly one DVD version of each Matrix film and one conclusive DVD Box-set that actually has 5-disks of new features instead of just rehashing the same DVDs and throwing them in a box to milk the cash-cow. And the milking doesn't stop there. They also keep milking LotR in the form of videogames that literally just rip-off other games in that genre.

Actually, not that many DVDs were released. What they do is they release a regular 2-disc DVD with mediocre special features and then several months later around Christmas they release a 4-disc edition with a ton of special features and extra footage that only a diehard fan would want. So basically, only 2 versions of each movie.

[+3kk!]

Flying cars?! What the f are you talking about? You sure you weren't watching Back to the Future? There were hovercrafts in all three Matrix films and they functioned in a way that could become reality in the future.

at the end of the reloaded where neo races to save trinity, you can see cars flying like papers behind him..........cant believe you missed that :rolleyes: .besides,all those flying gave me a headache

[Cybergasm]

Lotr

[Systemhead]

Actually, not that many DVDs were released. What they do is they release a regular 2-disc DVD with mediocre special features and then several months later around Christmas they release a 4-disc edition with a ton of special features and extra footage that only a diehard fan would want. So basically, only 2 versions of each movie.

Maybe I overestimated the # of DVDs they've released, but they've had plenty of gift sets and special editions and have bundled together FotR and Two Towers in order to milk the franchise. But that doesn't matter the only point I was making was that theredwonder was stupid for calling the Matrix a milked franchise when the LotR franchise has been milked more.

[Systemhead]

Systemhead: I refuse to argue with you, as you seem to care more about the politics of a film than it's overall quality. This makes you an idiot.

Well done, you just convinced me. Now stfu.

I understand, i was once a fool like you. You just need to... oh wait, no i wasn't.

:confused:

[theredwonder]

This isn't arguing. It's me ripping into you for being such a ****ing idiot. Now please, stop spamming this thread.#


I was making was that theredwonder was stupid for calling the Matrix a milked franchise

Oh and get your facts straight before you make statements like that.

[Hammer_of_the_Gods]

Lord of the Rings>>>>>>>>The Matrix Trilogy.

Both are great but I love fantasy books so LOTR is much better.

[Yppolitia]

I think the LOTR is alot better, but the first Matrix was good, unforntunately i think 2 and 3 were a let down for it.

[insertusernamehere]

matrix

[punkster998]

Lotr

[houses_of_holy]

like what everyone says LOTR r better. Matrix was a let down after the first one

[TheBlackAcidChildren]

Matrix gets my vote.

[punkster998]

like what everyone says LOTR r better. Matrix was a let down after the first one


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