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Red Stripe
01-23-2005, 08:47 PM
so its time, national holiday, super bowl sunday

Super Bowl XXXIX Jacksonville, Feb. 6

Patriots vs. Eagles
matchup>http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/scoreboard?season=3&week=5&year=2004
coverage starts at 10 AM, thank you iliketoplaydrums

pick the score, thanks to everyone who made this year great

ThePatient
01-23-2005, 08:48 PM
21-17 Patriots

The JoZ
01-23-2005, 08:49 PM
24-21 Eagles

simplephotographinthesun
01-23-2005, 08:49 PM
patriots 31-20

iliketoplaydrums10111
01-23-2005, 08:51 PM
Patriots 23-20

Vinetari (sp?) will win it. He's wonderful under pressure. Special teams will win it


edit: can you believe coverage on February 6 begins at 10 AM, wtf are they gonna talk about the whole time?

jimiSRVhendrix
01-23-2005, 08:51 PM
17-14 Eagles

Yamaha2k3
01-23-2005, 08:52 PM
24-21 (OT) Eagles

3074326
01-23-2005, 08:52 PM
33-17 Patriots

The Eagles won't be able to stop the Patriots.

I want my prediction to be wrong.

Simple Man
01-23-2005, 08:53 PM
28-21, Pats

Reaganista
01-23-2005, 08:54 PM
27-13 Eagles

I want my prediction to be wrong.

I wouldn't worry about that too much.

simplephotographinthesun
01-23-2005, 08:55 PM
33-17 Patriots

The Eagles won't be able to stop the Patriots.

I want my prediction to be wrong.

i concur :upset:

sockmonkey
01-23-2005, 09:03 PM
im not going to predict the score but my best bet is that it will be one of the best super bowls

NewKindofArmy03
01-23-2005, 09:04 PM
27-21 Eagles

Red Stripe
01-23-2005, 09:08 PM
i'll count the other scores tomarrow

Hababi
01-23-2005, 09:09 PM
31-17 Pats.

LeperAffinity
01-23-2005, 09:19 PM
The Eagles will win without too much difficulty. I will edit in the score after further consideration.



I wouldn't worry about that too much.
I eagerly await watching you eat your words two weeks from now.

Patriots 38
Eagles 24

Reaganista
01-23-2005, 09:21 PM
I eagerly await watching you eat your words two weeks from now.

Patriots 38
Eagles 24

I eagerly await having the closest prediction for the eagles game for the third week in a row.

ToyDolls
01-23-2005, 09:27 PM
Pats vs. Eagles


Worthless to watch.

I thought I was going to see one of the greatest Super Bowls of all time with the Eagles and Steelers. No. I get stuck with this shitbag of a game.

I hate Tom Brady and I want him dead. Along with that fag Bill.

LeperAffinity
01-23-2005, 09:29 PM
I eagerly await having the closest prediction for the eagles game for the third week in a row.
The Patriots limited the 5th offense in NFL history to 3 points. They scored 41 points against the #1 defense. What can Philly bring to the table to catch New England off guard?

cheesepuff
01-23-2005, 09:31 PM
Pats vs. Eagles


Worthless to watch.

I thought I was going to see one of the greatest Super Bowls of all time with the Eagles and Steelers. No. I get stuck with this shitbag of a game.

I hate Tom Brady and I want him dead. Along with that fag Bill.


Just because your team got slaughtered. :rolleyes: I say the pats will win it, they dominated the steelers, I see them doing the same to the eagles, one question, why the hell is there a week off in between?

Reaganista
01-23-2005, 09:32 PM
The Patriots limited the 5th offense in NFL history to 3 points. They scored 41 points against the #1 defense. What can Philly bring to the table to catch New England off guard?

The better team?

Reaganista
01-23-2005, 09:33 PM
Just because your team got slaughtered. :rolleyes: I say the pats will win it, they dominated the steelers, I see them doing the same to the eagles, one question, why the hell is there a week off in between?

Because Andy Reid has never lost after a bye week.

NewKindofArmy03
01-23-2005, 09:33 PM
What can Philly bring to the table to catch New England off guard?
The question is, what can't they bring?

We get Owens back too. The Eagles proved they can win without him, and this will add to the Pats losing.

SubtleDagger
01-24-2005, 12:04 AM
28 - 24, Eagles.

iliketoplaydrums10111
01-24-2005, 12:07 AM
Eagles get Owens back :-/

The JoZ
01-24-2005, 12:12 AM
The better team?

:lol:

Well, I will say, that when the Pats dissected the Colts, and Steelers, Manning and Rothelisberger, the respective quarterbacks, are not exactly known as being mobile quarterbacks. Now, the Pats will have to contend with McNabb, who can run pretty decently when he wants to. Like the Colts, they have a decent set of weapons in Westbrook, Mitchell, Pinkston, Smith, and let's not forget T.O. coming back into the mix.

The biggest question on the Eagles' side, is can they shut down the Pats' recievers, and harass Brady enough? As evidenced by the MNF fiasco in Miami, if you pressure Brady enough, he can make some stupid mistakes. Does this mean he will? Well, the only way to know for sure is to blitz the hell out of him and make him uncomfortable. If guys like Jeramiah Trotter can get in there and hurry and/or sack him a few times, then the Eagles definetly have a decent shot at winning.

Go Eagles.

SubtleDagger
01-24-2005, 12:19 AM
The biggest question on the Eagles' side, is can they shut down the Pats' recievers, and harass Brady enough? As evidenced by the MNF fiasco in Miami, if you pressure Brady enough, he can make some stupid mistakes. Does this mean he will? Well, the only way to know for sure is to blitz the hell out of him and make him uncomfortable. If guys like Jeramiah Trotter can get in there and hurry and/or sack him a few times, then the Eagles definetly have a decent shot at winning.

Go Eagles.
Jevon Kearse, Brian Dawkins, Jeremiah Trotter, Matt Sheppard. I don't even think it's much of an "if", but hey, any given Sunday.

Kurtz
01-24-2005, 12:19 AM
38-17 Patriots.

Go Eagles though.

The JoZ
01-24-2005, 12:47 AM
Jevon Kearse, Brian Dawkins, Jeremiah Trotter, Matt Sheppard. I don't even think it's much of an "if", but hey, any given Sunday.

Well, I mean, anything can happen, as proven by this year.

I'd like to think the Eagles' defense will contain Givens, Branch, Patten and Dillon

Liberi Fatali
01-24-2005, 12:52 AM
So what is T.O's status? Or is he going to be a game time decision?

Your Mom, B*tch
01-24-2005, 01:47 AM
The Eagles aren't even in the same class as the Patriots. Seems like a pretty lopsided superbowl to me especially since the Patriots are absolutely on fire right now. And I'm pretty sure I heard earlier today that unless there is some kind of miracle, Owens is still out.

Illmatic
01-24-2005, 01:57 AM
Patriots 38, Eagles 20

Owens will be back, but how useful will a wide reciever be a month and a half after breaking his leg?

People forget that Charlie Weis is as good at catching defenses off-guard as Crennel and God (er, Belichick) are at catching offenses off-guard. I will go on the record to say that there is absolutely nothing the Eagles can do at this point that can stop the Patriots. No matter what mismatches come up, the Pats always find a way. They had Randall Gay, Asante Samuel, and Troy Brown going up against Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, and Brandon Stokley and they held the Colts to three points. They scored 41 points on the league's #1 defense (hell, they marched into Pittsburgh and throttled a 15-1 team that had bitchslapped them in the regular season). What can the Eagles possibly do at this point?

pixiesfanyo
01-24-2005, 06:00 AM
^ Branch had a big game yesterday also.

Anyway, I see Eagles winning 21 - 17

It'll be a good watch.

crazyman
01-24-2005, 07:43 AM
41-17 Patriots

i'd rather see the Eagles win but i just don't think they can

tomxwithxweather
01-24-2005, 09:52 AM
The Eagles aren't even in the same class as the Patriots. Seems like a pretty lopsided superbowl to me especially since the Patriots are absolutely on fire right now. And I'm pretty sure I heard earlier today that unless there is some kind of miracle, Owens is still out.

the eagles are aboslutely on fire too, and dawkins is mad, you dont want to see brian dawkins when hes mad...

and for the game its basically even no matter what people want to say

Dr Funkenstein
01-24-2005, 10:04 AM
27-20 pats. I think that with a bye week Belichek will come up with a pretty **** good system. The Eagles need McNabb to be able to run, maybe coming out in more multiple receiver sets to stretch the defensive backs and take some of the linebackers out of the game. Given Pilly's pass-happy offense though I think it likely Belichek will be able to do a number on them. If Westbrook can run the ball they have a shot.

The pats don't have an out and out go-to-guy so the Eagles 2 top corners might not be able to shut down an offense as much as usual. They'll use Dillon to get up lots of short gains and then pick up 1st downs either with them or easy completions. The eagles have a good defense but I think they need to hold back on blitzing. Brady's good under pressure and gets the ball out quickly. They often run short routes and blitzing is liable to give up big plays. Maybe pass-rushing a linebacker and dropping an end into zone. Fake alot like the pats did to Manning. Also look at Miami. Brady's pretty much always struggled against their defense and they play a cover two system.

iliketoplaydrums10111
01-24-2005, 10:42 AM
The reason I'm going for the Patriots is simply because of their experience. They've been here before, they know what to expect, there gonna go out and play. I'm just worrried the Eagles are gonna be over-hyped about even just making it to the Super Bowl.

Belicheck will make some sort of scheme to stop there O and beat their D. He's like a mastermind

iliketoplaydrums10111
01-24-2005, 10:44 AM
Brady's pretty much always struggled against their defense and they play a cover two system.

Cover two D is only good if you put enough pressure on the QB. If you don't make him scramble/sacked within 2-3 "mississippi" seconds you're pretty much ****ed because cover two D can get dissected so easily

/knows from playing Cover 2 D against All-Madden AI.

Wanker
01-24-2005, 11:31 AM
I'm saying that the Pats are going to win. People are saying that McNabb will be able to run the ball, but the Patriots have an amazing defense that everyone keeps forgetting about.

31-17 Patriots

iliketoplaydrums10111
01-24-2005, 11:39 AM
^True

Everyone under-estimates their defense. They clogged up the middle when the Bus tried to run through it. Amazing

IsItLuck?
01-24-2005, 12:16 PM
20-17 Patriots.

Illmatic
01-24-2005, 03:07 PM
Everybody's underestimating New England's performances against Indy and Pittsburgh and overestimating Philly's performances at home against NFC opponents.

BassVirtuoso
01-24-2005, 03:15 PM
Owens doesn't even have to catch a pass to tilt the odds in the Eagles favor.

Look at the regular season.

Owens is doubleteamed, leaving a reciever open. The Eagles are a throwing team, they thrive on double teamed recievers. And if TO does catch it...is there any Patriot safety big and fast enough to stop him?

Red Stripe
01-24-2005, 03:40 PM
last weeks winners

Overall
Pixiesfanyo- 22

AFC
iliketoplaydrums10111- 11

NFC
The Tway- 6

Red Stripe
01-24-2005, 03:43 PM
Patriots 27 Eagles 24

Vinatieri will do more magic as time runs out, the defences will win or lose this game, if you think about it, both of these two teams are about dead even at basicly every position, just the QBs are completely different

Illmatic
01-24-2005, 04:15 PM
Owens doesn't even have to catch a pass to tilt the odds in the Eagles favor.

Look at the regular season.

Owens is doubleteamed, leaving a reciever open. The Eagles are a throwing team, they thrive on double teamed recievers. And if TO does catch it...is there any Patriot safety big and fast enough to stop him?

Do you really think Crennel and Belichick are foolish enough to ignore that fact? They'll find a way.

Besides, once Rodney decks TO a few times he'll be a non-factor.

Nothing can tip this game in the Eagles' favor.

pikester
01-24-2005, 06:03 PM
The Patriots ALWAYS win in the playoffs.

the Eagles ALWAYS lose in the playoffs.

Translation:
NE - 55
PHI - 0

Tom Brady sets the single game rushing record, Terrell Owens plays one play, breaks other leg,

Theres no way it can't happen.

Austin, TX
01-24-2005, 06:07 PM
The Texans and the Cowboys are going to be the best football teams next year.

Illmatic
01-24-2005, 09:44 PM
No, no they aren't.

Austin, TX
01-24-2005, 09:48 PM
I think Texas needs a new football team. How about the Austin Bulldogs.

Reaganista
01-24-2005, 09:59 PM
Everybody's underestimating New England's performances against Indy and Pittsburgh and overestimating Philly's performances at home against NFC opponents.

Reverse that.

Besides, once Rodney decks TO a few times he'll be a non-factor.


Haha.

Illmatic
01-24-2005, 10:01 PM
You seriously have to be the single most biased Eagles fan on the planet.

What could feasibly make Philly's performance against two shaky-at-best NFC opponents possibly more impressive than New England's performances against two of the four elite teams in the NFL?

And I wouldn't put it past Rodney to cheapshot TO a few times, to be honest.

LeperAffinity
01-24-2005, 10:05 PM
I love how Philly fans think that TO will be the key difference maker in this game. Besides the fact that one man can't carry a team...or that he's coming off a broken leg...or that they rushed him through rehab so he could play...you think he's going to come out at 100% and make an impact?

Liberi Fatali
01-24-2005, 10:05 PM
T.O is a big man, I doubt Rodney could deck him.

Liberi Fatali
01-24-2005, 10:07 PM
I love how Philly fans think that TO will be the key difference maker in this game. Besides the fact that one man can't carry a team...or that he's coming off a broken leg...or that they rushed him through rehab so he could play...you think he's going to come out at 100% and make an impact?
He'll soak up double coverage and open up holes for Westbrook, Mcnabb and the other receivers. He'll give them a huge boost on offense, which they will need.

I don't think any Eagles fans are saying he is going to win it single handly, they're saying he will make a big difference.

Illmatic
01-24-2005, 10:08 PM
The only hard part is finding a goal for this game.

Against Indy, it was respect.
Against Pittsburgh, it was payback.
But judging by those who are picking Philly to stick close, I guess we could go with respect again.

3074326
01-24-2005, 10:10 PM
Owens isn't even expected to play in the Super Bowl, so nobody will be decking him.

EDIT: Nevermind, I guess he's been "spiritually" healed. I hope he doesn't injure himself severely because he insists on playing. You know that the Pats are going after him.

Illmatic
01-24-2005, 10:10 PM
He'll soak up double coverage and open up holes for Westbrook, Mcnabb and the other receivers. He'll give them a huge boost on offense, which they will need.

I don't think any Eagles fans are saying he is going to win it single handly, they're saying he will make a big difference.

Do you really think Bill and Romeo don't know that? I think they realize that TO won't make a big enough impact, so they won't double cover him. You severely underestimate our coaching staff. This isn't Norv ****ing Turner we're talking about here.

SubtleDagger
01-24-2005, 10:11 PM
Saying TO is carrying the Eagles is silly considering how they've done without him the past few weeks.

He will obviously make a big difference, but he is not the deciding factor.

Liberi Fatali
01-24-2005, 10:14 PM
Do you really think Bill and Romeo don't know that? I think they realize that TO won't make a big enough impact, so they won't double cover him. You severely underestimate our coaching staff. This isn't Norv ****ing Turner we're talking about here.
:lol: You crack me up.

I do not underestimate your coaching staff, I know they will have TO all sussed out. Having T.O back however will give The Eagles a huge boost. T.O will (if he plays) still be T.O no matter how many % fit he is. Whether it be a mental boost, big play boost or whatever boost.

Now stop whining about your team and your coaches being underestimated and not getting enough attention.

Illmatic
01-24-2005, 10:16 PM
If you can say that, let me say that Richard Seymour is expected to play in the Super Bowl.

AJLeadGuitar
01-24-2005, 10:16 PM
17-28 (Pats)

Liberi Fatali
01-24-2005, 10:17 PM
If you can say that, let me say that Richard Seymour is expected to play in the Super Bowl.
And he'll make an impact for your team too. What is your point?

Please note, I do think The Pats will win. Whether T.O plays or not.

Illmatic
01-24-2005, 10:19 PM
That reminds me: I need to thank Butch Davis. Richard Seymour was ahead of Gerard Warren on the Browns' draft board and when they picked third overall, both players were still there. They picked Warren.

The JoZ
01-24-2005, 10:20 PM
Saying TO is carrying the Eagles is silly considering how they've done without him the past few weeks.

He will obviously make a big difference, but he is not the deciding factor.

This argument hearkens right back to the Pat's fans' argument that Corey Dillon would be the deciding factor in beating the Steelers, but Dillon only had 73 yards on 24 carries. Hardly a deciding factor.

Will TO be the deciding factor? Most likely not, but his presence should at least make things challenging for the Patriots.

Liberi Fatali
01-24-2005, 10:26 PM
This argument hearkens right back to the Pat's fans' argument that Corey Dillon would be the deciding factor in beating the Steelers, but Dillon only had 73 yards on 24 carries. Hardly a deciding factor.

He wasn't a deciding factor but he sure did help quite a bit. He converted for a few third downs in vital situations and ate up the clock by rolling the chains near the end giving the Steelers less time to make a come back.

3074326
01-24-2005, 10:27 PM
Keep in mind that the Steelers beat the **** out of the Eagles earlier in the season, and the Patriots beat the **** out of the Steelers last night..

A game in which all of Philly's starters started.

Eagles' TE Chad Lewis will not play in the Super Bowl.

The Patriots have many obvious advantages. I'd say that with a possible return of TO, they still have an advantage. The Patriots kept Hines Ward, Antwaan Randle El, and Plaxico Burress from doing too much damage. I think they can handle TO and Brian Westbrook.

Just my opinions.

Yamaha2k3
01-24-2005, 10:27 PM
I think Texas needs a new football team. How about the Austin Bulldogs.
Texas doesn't need another shitty team :lol:

MattSharpIsCool
01-25-2005, 12:14 AM
T.O is a big man, I doubt Rodney could deck him.

Well I'm sure you saw the lick Brian Dawkins put on Alge Crumpler in the NFC championship game. Rodney is bigger than Dawkins, and TO is smaller than Crumpler. TO is gonna have to think twice about coming across the middle.

Patriots - 27
Eagles - 20

No last second field goal from Vinateri this time. TO will make a difference, but not enough of one. And if anyone really thought TO would miss this game, you're nuts. There is no way he would ever sit out the super bowl.

New England is just better in every category.

Reaganista
01-25-2005, 12:22 AM
A game in which all of Philly's starters started.


Brian Westbrook was injured for that game.


Well I'm sure you saw the lick Brian Dawkins put on Alge Crumpler in the NFC championship game. Rodney is bigger than Dawkins, and TO is smaller than Crumpler. TO is gonna have to think twice about coming across the middle.


Dawkins is also a much better hitter than Harrison.

SubtleDagger
01-25-2005, 12:24 AM
Not to mention it was earlier in the season.

MattSharpIsCool
01-25-2005, 12:30 AM
Dawkins is also a much better hitter than Harrison.

That may be, but Harrison isnt exactly a soft hitter either.

BassVirtuoso
01-25-2005, 05:31 AM
There's always the emotion factor.

It's what won the Red Sox vs. Yankees.

tomxwithxweather
01-25-2005, 05:49 AM
Well I'm sure you saw the lick Brian Dawkins put on Alge Crumpler in the NFC championship game. Rodney is bigger than Dawkins, and TO is smaller than Crumpler. TO is gonna have to think twice about coming across the middle.

do you have any idea how big owens is?

pixiesfanyo
01-25-2005, 06:27 AM
Yeah, if TO comes back it'll be huge for the Eagles.

Having somebody of that presence be on your team gives you hope, it happens in every sport. If the Pats, didn't have Brady or the Steelers didn't have, Bettis they just wouldn't be the same team. It comes down to the players that rally the rest of the team and I'm positive TO is one of those.

RCA
01-25-2005, 09:05 AM
Do you really think Crennel and Belichick are foolish enough to ignore that fact? They'll find a way.

Besides, once Rodney decks TO a few times he'll be a non-factor.

Nothing can tip this game in the Eagles' favor.

We're still not even sure TO will be playing. If he is, our secondary will have their work cut out. TO is a pretty big (size) receiver, and our corners aren't exactly William Perry. We should still be able to slow him down though.

...

Of course I want the Pats to win, but I don't want it to be a three-point-deficit-kick-a-field-goal-at-the-last-second-to-win game like our last two.

P.S. If TO does play, I hope Rodney Harrison rips him a new one.

radianteclipse
01-25-2005, 09:44 AM
Patriots 41
Eagles 13

jimiSRVhendrix
01-25-2005, 11:37 AM
I think the Eagles are gonna win because it seems like are so much more pumped up for this game. When the patriots beat the steelers the players didnt look half as excited as Mcnabb and the Eagles did.

jimiSRVhendrix
01-25-2005, 11:43 AM
[QUOTE=3074326]Keep in mind that the Steelers beat the **** out of the Eagles earlier in the season, and the Patriots beat the **** out of the Steelers last night..

Yea and the steelers beat the **** out of the patriots earlier in the season too. The eagles just had a bad day that game.

LeperAffinity
01-25-2005, 12:08 PM
I think the Eagles are gonna win because it seems like are so much more pumped up for this game. When the patriots beat the steelers the players didnt look half as excited as Mcnabb and the Eagles did.
Yea, it didn't take us four straight years to get to the SB :rolleyes:

tomxwithxweather
01-25-2005, 02:27 PM
Keep in mind that the Steelers beat the **** out of the Eagles earlier in the season, and the Patriots beat the **** out of the Steelers last night..

keep in mind the steelers beat the **** out of the patriots earlier the year. and trotter didnt start that game, it was a completely different defense

Wanker
01-25-2005, 02:30 PM
keep in mind the steelers beat the **** out of the patriots earlier the year. and trotter didnt start that game, it was a completely different defense

So? The Patriots just beat the crap out of Pittsburgh last Sunday, if I recall correctly.

tomxwithxweather
01-25-2005, 02:31 PM
Yea, it didn't take us four straight years to get to the SB :rolleyes:

mcnabb was hurt all those years

tomxwithxweather
01-25-2005, 02:35 PM
So? The Patriots just beat the crap out of Pittsburgh last Sunday, if I recall correctly.

i was saying that you cant say that a team is gonna lose because someone else beat them

Illmatic
01-25-2005, 02:40 PM
I think the Eagles are gonna win because it seems like are so much more pumped up for this game. When the patriots beat the steelers the players didnt look half as excited as Mcnabb and the Eagles did.

That could really bite them in the ***. Imagine they come out fired up early, but then on the second play in the scrimmage, Willie McGinest sacks Donovan McNabb and forces a fumble which Tedy Bruschi recovers, and the Patriots offense takes over and scores in two plays. The Eagles will be crushed and the Pats will cruise for the rest of the game. The higher up you are, the more it'll hurt when you come crashing down. Throw in the fact that the Eagles have a recent history of big games not going their way, which adds in the "Oh my god, I can't believe this is happening again" factor (you know how when a team jumps out to a huge lead early in a game, and the cameras cut to the sidelines of the opponents, where the coach and quarterback and various other players look shellshocked? That's what I'm trying to get at here) and this could spell disaster for the Eagles.

Illmatic
01-25-2005, 02:40 PM
mcnabb was hurt all those years

You mean last year? He was healthy in '01 and '02.

Liberi Fatali
01-25-2005, 03:12 PM
That could really bite them in the ***. Imagine they come out fired up early, but then on the second play in the scrimmage, Willie McGinest sacks Donovan McNabb and forces a fumble which Tedy Bruschi recovers, and the Patriots offense takes over and scores in two plays. The Eagles will be crushed and the Pats will cruise for the rest of the game. The higher up you are, the more it'll hurt when you come crashing down. Throw in the fact that the Eagles have a recent history of big games not going their way, which adds in the "Oh my god, I can't believe this is happening again" factor (you know how when a team jumps out to a huge lead early in a game, and the cameras cut to the sidelines of the opponents, where the coach and quarterback and various other players look shellshocked? That's what I'm trying to get at here) and this could spell disaster for the Eagles.
It doesn't take much to get their spirits back up either.

Illmatic
01-25-2005, 03:14 PM
True, but they'd need a lot of luck to do so.

The JoZ
01-25-2005, 03:35 PM
Seriously, if the Eagles can pressure the hell out of Brady, I think they have a shot.

I think Mcnabb can evade the blitz better than Brady can...not to say Mcnabb can't be sacked, cause he sure can, but Mcnabb can run if need be, and Brady isn't exactly known as being a running quarterback quite like Mcnabb / Vick are.

Illmatic
01-25-2005, 03:36 PM
Brady's got good pocket presence, which is just as important. He's not like a Drew Bledsoe who will just stand there and get sacked.

Jom
01-25-2005, 03:58 PM
Patriots 38, Eagles 27

The JoZ
01-25-2005, 04:19 PM
Brady's got good pocket presence, which is just as important. He's not like a Drew Bledsoe who will just stand there and get sacked.

He has great pocket presence, which is the problem.

I saw a couple of plays the other day, when it looked like Brady stood motionless for practically a full minute before nailing his reciever downfield. You can't give Brady the opportunity to make plays like that, cause he will.

If the Eagles can pressure him, like, every down, or every other down...they'll have a shot.

jimiSRVhendrix
01-25-2005, 04:55 PM
He has great pocket presence, which is the problem.

I saw a couple of plays the other day, when it looked like Brady stood motionless for practically a full minute before nailing his reciever downfield. You can't give Brady the opportunity to make plays like that, cause he will.

If the Eagles can pressure him, like, every down, or every other down...they'll have a shot.

The eagles can pressure brady, all they have to do is get Kearse in there

iliketoplaydrums10111
01-25-2005, 05:26 PM
He has great pocket presence, which is the problem.

I saw a couple of plays the other day, when it looked like Brady stood motionless for practically a full minute before nailing his reciever downfield. You can't give Brady the opportunity to make plays like that, cause he will.

If the Eagles can pressure him, like, every down, or every other down...they'll have a shot.


But then the Patriots will have a killer running game. And Belicheck isn't stupid, he knows the Eagles will pressure them, so he is probably adapting them to shorter, out routes to get 7-8 yards on a single pass, which doesn't take much time in the pocket

MCMLXXXV82
01-25-2005, 05:45 PM
i dont care what the score is. as long as the patriots win im fine

cheesepuff
01-25-2005, 06:12 PM
do you have any idea how big owens is?


Terrell Owens - Height: 6-3 Weight: 226
Rodney Harrison - Height: 6-1 Weight: 220

Pretty much the same size, but the slight difference IS in TO's favor.

Then again, Harrison is the one who makes a career out of decking people like TO.

iliketoplaydrums10111
01-25-2005, 06:27 PM
http://www.superbowl.com/news/story/8130193

The latest on Owens

I hope Harrison clocks Owens right in the ankles, that would own

3074326
01-25-2005, 06:54 PM
Brian Westbrook was injured for that game.


Nope.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=241107023


keep in mind the steelers beat the **** out of the patriots earlier the year. and trotter didnt start that game, it was a completely different defense

Trotter played that game. Look at the link I posted above.

By the way, the Patriots actually were a completely different team when the Steelers played them. Corey Dillon didn't play at all, and neither did Ty Law. Talk about difference-makers. One of the best running backs in the NFL and one of the best defensive backs in the NFL, and neither of them played.

Now that was a different Pats team on both sides of the ball. Deion Branch, who basically beat the Steelers Sunday, also didn't play in that game.

Illmatic
01-25-2005, 07:09 PM
He has great pocket presence, which is the problem.

I saw a couple of plays the other day, when it looked like Brady stood motionless for practically a full minute before nailing his reciever downfield. You can't give Brady the opportunity to make plays like that, cause he will.

That's not what I mean. That's Bledsoe.

Pocket prescence is knowing when pressure is coming and knowing when to roll out/step up/throw the ball away. Brady is one of the smartest quarterbacks in football (barring the disastrous Miami game, which wasn't our finest hour as a whole), and it won't be as easy for the Eagles to get him to make mistakes (as opposed to shakier QBs like Pepper and Vick). I do think they'll pressure him and they will get to him a few times...he'll undoubtedly make more mistakes than I think he will and less than you imply he will. But given the Iggles' run defense, we'll undoubtedly see more Corey than Brady.

whitefreak
01-25-2005, 07:24 PM
EAGLE 24
PATRIOTS 21(OT)

Akers steps up and wins it. :thumb:

PumaPride77
01-25-2005, 07:31 PM
pats win 31-14

Candiria92
01-25-2005, 07:38 PM
Originally Posted by 3074326
Quote:



Originally Posted by The Tway

Brian Westbrook was injured for that game.




Nope.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=241107023




Quote:



Originally Posted by tomxwithxweather

keep in mind the steelers beat the **** out of the patriots earlier the year. and trotter didnt start that game, it was a completely different defense




Trotter played that game. Look at the link I posted above.

Brian Westbrook was hurt, that was his first game back from injury and he touched the ball only around 10 times, Trotter did not start, or play on defense for more than a few snaps. Trotter was made starter the following week, the tackles he made during the Steelers game were on special teams.

Everyone has been talking about New Englands coaching staff and rightfully so, however you cannot deny the talent of the Eagles staff. Jim Johnson is the best D-Coordinater in the game and Brad Childress and Andy Reid are very good offensive minds. Also, TO will play but no matter if he does or not the key to the game will be the eagles D and Brian Westbrook, the best running back no one knows about. If you ask anyone, he is without a doubt the best Receiving RB since Marshall Faulk, and is well on his way to becoming the player Faulk once was. The Eagles had the leagues #1 ranked defense in the only category that matters, points. The only reason the steelers were ahead of the is because of the 2 games that the starters did not play. They also finished second in sacks by only one, again becuase of the last games, so they will be able to get pressure on Brady.

The Patriots have the best record over the past few years 56-16, while Eagles the second best, 54-19 The differnce is the Super Bowl Victories and the NFC Championship Game defeats. This will be a good game with two evenly matched teams. Of course I want the Eagles to win, I think they have a good shot because anything can happen in a Super Bowl. Elway's Broncos were 14 point underdogs when the beat Favre's Packers.

Also, if you believe in omens, the Eagles won 27-10 sending them to the Super Bowl, the same score that they lost their only Super Bowl by. Bill B's record in playoffs, 9-1, Vince Lombardi's 9-1, the one loss, the 1960 Eagles Championship, the last one they have won.

tomxwithxweather
01-25-2005, 08:00 PM
I think they have a good shot because anything can happen in a Super Bowl. Elway's Broncos were 14 point underdogs when the beat Favre's Packers.

as were the patriots when they won their first superbowl

tomxwithxweather
01-25-2005, 08:03 PM
You mean last year? He was healthy in '01 and '02.

one year he missed the end of the year because of a broken leg(2 months)

NewKindofArmy03
01-25-2005, 08:14 PM
I'm going to an Eagles pep rally Thursday.

They're also going to win. McNabb and Westbrook are going to have a great game and our defense is going to pressure Brady to no end, the Pats drive ends here.


































E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!!

nrvn55
01-25-2005, 08:45 PM
i want the eagles to win(from philly) , but it's the patriots. they are just so dominating in the play offs. the eagles want it real bad though. i don;t know...i want the eagles...but i don;t know if yo ucan stop the pats.

Red Stripe
01-25-2005, 08:59 PM
a **** this is gonna suck counting this week

splashfreak
01-25-2005, 09:19 PM
I don't see how anyone in their right minds can pick against the patriots. EVERY WEEK people start going agaisnt the patriots and EVERY WEEK they absolutely crush their opponent.

Philly got KILLED by Pittsburgh even with T.O., how are they gonna contend with NE WITHOUT him?

Philly's record and statistics are deceiving because they played in the freaking NFC. The only time they played a decent team from the AFC they got CRUSHED. Why would it be any different against a team that just REFUSES to lose?

The JoZ
01-25-2005, 09:21 PM
That's not what I mean. That's Bledsoe.

Pocket prescence is knowing when pressure is coming and knowing when to roll out/step up/throw the ball away. Brady is one of the smartest quarterbacks in football (barring the disastrous Miami game, which wasn't our finest hour as a whole), and it won't be as easy for the Eagles to get him to make mistakes (as opposed to shakier QBs like Pepper and Vick). I do think they'll pressure him and they will get to him a few times...he'll undoubtedly make more mistakes than I think he will and less than you imply he will. But given the Iggles' run defense, we'll undoubtedly see more Corey than Brady.

I see what you mean, but I think my point still stands. He might know how to roll out/step up/throw the ball away, but being pressured definetly induces mistakes, and you can look right at said disaster in Miami.

But let's look at the Patriot's season. Who did they really beat?

Indy
Arizona
Buffalo (x2)
Miami
Seattle
NY Jets (x2)
St Louis
Kansas City
Baltimore
Cleveland
Cincinatti
San Fransisco

Now, how many of those teams actually had winning records? Indy, and the Jets, really. That's it. The rest were all quite sub-par teams this year, although Cincinatti gave them a pretty decent game, and the Ravens went 9-7 on the year. The Pats lost horribly to the Steelers in their first meeting, a team with a winning record, and fell disasterously to down-and-out Miami, with a losing record. They beat the Colts again in the playoffs, who had a winning record (duh), and they beat the Steelers who had the best record in the AFC at that point.

The Eagles season might not have been too much stronger, but it certainly wasn't weaker then the Pats, beating

NY Giants (x2)
Minnesota
Detroit
Chicago
Carolina
Cleveland
Baltimore
Dallas (x2)
Washington (x2, although the 2nd win almost didn't happen for them)
Green Bay

They lost to the Steelers, Rams and Bengals, but the latter two games saw them in "JV Mode", so it can almost be excused. The Pats lost to the Steelers big time, and lost a game to Miami, which nobody can believe happened.

Can the Eagles beat the Pats? I see no reason why they can't. They kept the Falcon's running attack at bay, so I can see them doing the same to Dillon...

It really will probably all fall on each team's respective QB's, and/or their kickers.

Should (read: better) be a good game.

LeperAffinity
01-25-2005, 09:38 PM
They lost to the Steelers, Rams and Bengals, but the latter two games saw them in "JV Mode", so it can almost be excused. The Pats lost to the Steelers big time, and lost a game to Miami, which nobody can believe happened.

Can the Eagles beat the Pats? I see no reason why they can't. They kept the Falcon's running attack at bay, so I can see them doing the same to Dillon...
The Pats fared much better against the Steelers than the Eagles did, managing to put up 20 points compared to Philadelphia's 3, and that was without many key starters. And the Miami loss wasn't because Miami was a better team, but because Brady made some costly mistakes. Plus there's this:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs04/news/story?id=1975261

IsItLuck?
01-25-2005, 10:15 PM
I think Texas needs a new football team. How about the Austin Bulldogs.

I think that's a horrible idea.

The eagles are a bunch of chumps who will face real competition come SB sunday.

Has anyone seen the schedules for next year? the chargers are in for a doozie.

Denver x2
KC x2
Oakland x2
Buffalo
Indy!
Dallas
New England!
Miami
Jets
Giants
Philadelphia!
Pittsburgh!
Washington

3074326
01-25-2005, 10:20 PM
Ouch..

Illmatic
01-25-2005, 10:52 PM
I see what you mean, but I think my point still stands. He might know how to roll out/step up/throw the ball away, but being pressured definetly induces mistakes, and you can look right at said disaster in Miami.

But let's look at the Patriot's season. Who did they really beat?

Indy
Arizona
Buffalo (x2)
Miami
Seattle
NY Jets (x2)
St Louis
Kansas City
Baltimore
Cleveland
Cincinatti
San Fransisco

Now, how many of those teams actually had winning records? Indy, and the Jets, really. That's it. The rest were all quite sub-par teams this year, although Cincinatti gave them a pretty decent game, and the Ravens went 9-7 on the year. The Pats lost horribly to the Steelers in their first meeting, a team with a winning record, and fell disasterously to down-and-out Miami, with a losing record. They beat the Colts again in the playoffs, who had a winning record (duh), and they beat the Steelers who had the best record in the AFC at that point.

The Eagles season might not have been too much stronger, but it certainly wasn't weaker then the Pats, beating

NY Giants (x2)
Minnesota
Detroit
Chicago
Carolina
Cleveland
Baltimore
Dallas (x2)
Washington (x2, although the 2nd win almost didn't happen for them)
Green Bay

They lost to the Steelers, Rams and Bengals, but the latter two games saw them in "JV Mode", so it can almost be excused. The Pats lost to the Steelers big time, and lost a game to Miami, which nobody can believe happened.

Can the Eagles beat the Pats? I see no reason why they can't. They kept the Falcon's running attack at bay, so I can see them doing the same to Dillon...

It really will probably all fall on each team's respective QB's, and/or their kickers.

Should (read: better) be a good game.

The losses to St. Louis and Cincy were like the loss to Miami: they didn't matter in the end.

Philly's sked was much weaker than NE's. There wasn't a single team they beat who was better than, or as good as, Indy.

Reaganista
01-25-2005, 11:03 PM
Nope.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=241107023


um yeah, read your own link, it says he had a broken rib.

The JoZ
01-25-2005, 11:10 PM
The losses to St. Louis and Cincy were like the loss to Miami: they didn't matter in the end.

Philly's sked was much weaker than NE's. There wasn't a single team they beat who was better than, or as good as, Indy.

Indy = 12/4
Arizona = 6/10
Buffalo = 9/7
Miami = 4/12
Seattle = 9/7
NY Jets = 10/6
St Louis = 8/8
Kansas City = 7/9
Baltimore = 9/7
Cleveland = 4/12
Cincinatti = 8/8
San Fransisco = 2/14
Pittsburgh = 15-1

Combined Opponent Record: 103/105

NY Giants = 6/10
Minnesota = 8/8
Detroit = 6/10
Chicago = 5/11
Carolina = 7/9
Cleveland = 4/12
Baltimore = 9/7
Dallas = 6/10
Washington = 6/10
Green Bay = 10/6
Cincinatti = 8/8
St Louis = 8/8

Combined Opponent Record: 83/109

The Eagle's opponents overall had less wins, but they also had less losses than did New England's overall. I do not think that qualifies the Eagles schedule as "much weaker" than New England's

Fix'd

Reaganista
01-25-2005, 11:12 PM
Actually, you just left out some games...

Illmatic
01-25-2005, 11:32 PM
63+97 = 160
88+104 = 192

Something doesn't add up.

The JoZ
01-25-2005, 11:35 PM
I don't know, really, I suck at math. I added up the wins of the opponents, and added up the losses, and there we go. These were only regular season totals, so no postseason games have been included.

Even if my math isn't perfect, I still don't think the Eagles had that much of a weaker schedule.

Liberi Fatali
01-25-2005, 11:38 PM
The Eagles did have a weaker schedule in the sense that they played in the NFC.

The JoZ
01-25-2005, 11:39 PM
The Eagles did have a weaker schedule in the sense that they played in the NFC.

But the Patriots played some of the weakest NFC teams too.

Liberi Fatali
01-25-2005, 11:43 PM
Even if my math isn't perfect, I still don't think the Eagles had that much of a weaker schedule.
You forgot Cinci and St. Louis for Philly.

Liberi Fatali
01-25-2005, 11:44 PM
But the Patriots played some of the weakest NFC teams too.
:lol: True, they did play the whole of the NFC West. The weakest division in the league.

Reaganista
01-25-2005, 11:45 PM
You forgot Cinci and St. Louis for Philly.

and the steelers.

and to count division opponents twice.

The JoZ
01-25-2005, 11:50 PM
and the steelers.

and to count division opponents twice.

I purposely didn't count the division opponents twice, because their record stayed the same.

And oh shi, I left off the losses I think. Duh, that's why it doesn't look right. I think. :lol:

The JoZ
01-25-2005, 11:52 PM
Fix'd

Reaganista
01-25-2005, 11:54 PM
I purposely didn't count the division opponents twice, because their record stayed the same.

yeah, but they played them twice...

The JoZ
01-26-2005, 12:06 AM
But that doesn't change said team's record? :confused:

Reaganista
01-26-2005, 12:09 AM
Yeah, but it changes the overall record of their opponents.

It makes no logical sense to count Pittsburg and the Giants once, when they actually played the giants twice and the steelers once.

radianteclipse
01-26-2005, 09:47 AM
It's going to be a blowout. Has anyone noticed the pattern. For the last for or so years it has been a blowout every other super bowl..last years was awesome..this years will be a blowout.

guitarded_chuck
01-26-2005, 04:07 PM
If Eagles don't get Owens back, they don't stand much of a chance. Not that they really do anyway. I'm jumping on the Eagle bandwagon, just because I'm getting tired of Brady and the Pats.

But, my prediction is 28-21 Pats.

jimiSRVhendrix
01-26-2005, 04:56 PM
Getting T.O. back will help the eagles but thats not how there going to win. There gonna win with there defense.

tomxwithxweather
01-26-2005, 05:42 PM
the eagles have been playing better defense in the playoffs

Candiria92
01-26-2005, 05:44 PM
Starting to look like T.O. is going to play.

According to the Eagles website T.O. is running and they plan on letting him practice soon. Also, NFL analysts Jay Glazer reports that "the Eagles ran the injured wide receiver Tuesday night and he was able to make cuts without experiencing pain in his surgically repaired ankle. Barring any setbacks, the plan is to have Owens practice with the team on Monday."(FOXsports.com)

NewKindofArmy03
01-26-2005, 06:20 PM
I haven't checked it out tonight, but as of last night, TO still didnt know if he was going to play or not. He wants to, but his doctor said his leg isnt fully healed and he could hurt a lot worst. This will be up to Andy Reid and if he's willing to take the risk, TO will probably play.

Reaganista
01-26-2005, 10:06 PM
I will roast Andy Reid on a spit if he doesn't let TO at least try to play.

3074326
01-26-2005, 10:11 PM
I'd almost rather see him not play, just for fear of him getting injured and being out for a complete season, or even a career if the injury is severe enough.

Reaganista
01-26-2005, 10:15 PM
I'd rather see him play.

AdictAddict
01-27-2005, 03:31 PM
33-17 Patriots

The Eagles won't be able to stop the Patriots.

I want my prediction to be wrong.
123, but i dont want my prediction to be wrong.

kadbase3
01-27-2005, 06:01 PM
Pats R Gonna Rock The Eagle's World!!! We'll Rock Philli's World!!! Macnab, Bruschi's Gunnin 4 Ya...he'll Sack Ya, And It's Gonna Hurt So Bad Ur grandkids [/u] Will Fell It!!!...

Reaganista
01-27-2005, 06:08 PM
Um, Bruschi is only 7 pounds heavier than McNabb and had four sacks all year. Forgive me (and McNabb) if I'm not scared.

iliketoplaydrums10111
01-27-2005, 07:04 PM
I don't know if it's been posted but TO's doctor says he shouldn't play in the SB

Will he obey?

tomxwithxweather
01-27-2005, 07:08 PM
I don't know if it's been posted but TO's doctor says he shouldn't play in the SB

Will he obey?

remember that docter also worked and grant hill for years and he was out of basketball for years, if he were to recomend T.O. to play and he gets hurt that doctors in some trouble

and if T.O. thinks he can play he will play, i think i might practice in Jacksonville monday with the team

Reaganista
01-27-2005, 07:16 PM
I don't know if it's been posted but TO's doctor says he shouldn't play in the SB

Will he obey?

He's playing. He's been running routes and catching passing since yesterday with no pain.

pixiesfanyo
01-27-2005, 08:04 PM
I hope TO makes the superbowl winning play and then gets severely injuried.

It'd be awesome.

guitarded_chuck
01-27-2005, 08:15 PM
I have a bad feeling about the Eagles. I think TO will be a gametime decision, and at the last minute it'll be announced he can't play. And then the Eagles will get owned. I don't want to be right about that, but it's looking like it's gonna happen.

Red Stripe
01-27-2005, 09:04 PM
no Owens said he will play, no matter what he will play, but he isn't gonna be 100 percent, the guy who did the surgury didn't clear him to play, but apparently he dosent care

iliketoplaydrums10111
01-27-2005, 09:27 PM
I hope Rodney nails him right in the ankle their first offensive play

Reaganista
01-27-2005, 10:55 PM
OMG, not Rodney Harrison! :lol:

crazyman
01-27-2005, 10:57 PM
i heard TO thinks he's able to play but the doctor said that he more than likley will not clear him before his 8-10 weeks that he was originally to be shelved for

therefore he may not play

MattSharpIsCool
01-27-2005, 10:58 PM
Rodney Harrison is gonna own the piss out of TO.

crazyman
01-27-2005, 11:02 PM
i think so too, that is if TO even plays

LeperAffinity
01-27-2005, 11:06 PM
My prediction is that TO will get injured again quickly if he plays. He's not at 100%, and he knows it. But he won't pass up a chance to play in the Super Bowl because his ego won't allow it. At times he's an entertainer first and a football player second, and what stage is larger than the Super Bowl? He'd probably try to play with crutches if it came down to that. Oh, and add me to the list of those waiting to see Rodney Harrison clean his clock. It's going to be a beautiful hit.

Reaganista
01-27-2005, 11:11 PM
i heard TO thinks he's able to play but the doctor said that he more than likley will not clear him before his 8-10 weeks that he was originally to be shelved for

therefore he may not play

TO's surgeon has no imput on the matter, the team doctor makes the decision and he's said that he's going to clear T.O.

And get real, Rodney Harrison couldn't hold T.O.'s jock.

crazyman
01-27-2005, 11:11 PM
bold call: if TO does play he will not get a touchdown, his biggest recepetion will be under 15 yards

Reaganista
01-27-2005, 11:12 PM
bold call: if TO does play he will not get a touchdown, his biggest recepetion will be under 15 yards

Bolder call, T.O. scores from 20+ yards on the first drive of the game.

crazyman
01-27-2005, 11:13 PM
ok we'll see whose prediction wins
;)

Liberi Fatali
01-27-2005, 11:17 PM
My call: T.O will play a limited role (30-60 yards) and Harrison wont even touch him, if he does it'll be assisting in a tackle.

MattSharpIsCool
01-27-2005, 11:17 PM
My prediction is that TO will get injured again quickly if he plays. He's not at 100%, and he knows it. But he won't pass up a chance to play in the Super Bowl because his ego won't allow it. At times he's an entertainer first and a football player second, and what stage is larger than the Super Bowl? He'd probably try to play with crutches if it came down to that. Oh, and add me to the list of those waiting to see Rodney Harrison clean his clock. It's going to be a beautiful hit.


Well....I wouldnt exactly sit out the super bowl either if I got there. He played all year to get to this game.

LeperAffinity
01-27-2005, 11:33 PM
Well....I wouldnt exactly sit out the super bowl either if I got there. He played all year to get to this game.
I'd rather sit it out and try again next year instead of risking a career-ending injury. You don't see Ty Law or Tyrone Poole clamoring to get on that field.

MattSharpIsCool
01-27-2005, 11:39 PM
I'd rather sit it out and try again next year instead of risking a career-ending injury. You don't see Ty Law or Tyrone Poole clamoring to get on that field.

Their injuries are a tad bit more serious than TO's though. Hes only 2 weeks or so away from coming back.

And what if he never gets back to the super bowl? His one chance to play, he missed because he was hurt. I would definitly play if I was him.

Liberi Fatali
01-27-2005, 11:42 PM
I'd rather sit it out and try again next year instead of risking a career-ending injury. You don't see Ty Law or Tyrone Poole clamoring to get on that field.
He might never get this chance to play in a superbowl again (let alone win it). He feels that he can help his team win it. No player wants to end up like Marino, with no superbowls to back up the stats. He is willing to take the risk to reap the reward, so I don't see why he shouldn't risk it.

As Seth said their injuries were more serious, and they have already both won a superbowl/s. T.O hasn't.

tomxwithxweather
01-28-2005, 05:40 AM
My prediction is that TO will get injured again quickly if he plays. He's not at 100%, and he knows it. But he won't pass up a chance to play in the Super Bowl because his ego won't allow it. At times he's an entertainer first and a football player second, and what stage is larger than the Super Bowl? He'd probably try to play with crutches if it came down to that. Oh, and add me to the list of those waiting to see Rodney Harrison clean his clock. It's going to be a beautiful hit.

like said before, T.O. is one big dude.

MattSharpIsCool
01-28-2005, 11:32 AM
And so is Rodney Harrison.

If 210 pound Brian Dawkins can put that big of a hit on 262 pound Alge Crumpler, than 220 pound Rodney Harrison can take out 226 pound Terrell Owens.

tomxwithxweather
01-28-2005, 02:27 PM
Dawkins hits harder than anyone in football

Illmatic
01-28-2005, 02:49 PM
Rodney is not far behind.

victimofreality
01-29-2005, 08:35 AM
27 -17 Eagles

Distant Echoes
01-29-2005, 04:41 PM
33-27 Pats

Love the Eagles, but i dont think they can pull this one off.

Maybe since TOs been gone so long its gettin to me though. I dont think its gonna make too much of a difference though

funk_rock_jazz_drummer
01-30-2005, 05:03 PM
28-17 patriots.

RCA
01-31-2005, 08:38 AM
Dawkins hits harder than anyone in football

He hits very hard, but I doubt he hits the hardest. I think John Lynch hits harder than Dawkins does.

Candiria92
01-31-2005, 07:16 PM
I thought i'd let you know T.O. practiced with the team today, just to keep everyone that cares and hasn't heard updated.

tomxwithxweather
02-01-2005, 03:26 PM
t.o. said hes 81% and will be 181% by sunday

dancetomdance182
02-01-2005, 06:27 PM
T.O. has to play in order for the Eagles to win.
People are saying, bet for the Patriots, but root for the Eagles.

madefortvmovie
02-01-2005, 07:09 PM
honestly i dont think t.o. will play at all since he's been out for a while but if he does...thats too bad for the pats...28-10 pats

VHRocks
02-02-2005, 09:12 AM
I think that Philly is going to win the Super Bowl, Donovan McNabb has an amazing passing ability, and he can hit his man under pressure.

IsItLuck?
02-02-2005, 02:52 PM
I think that Philly is going to win the Super Bowl, Donovan McNabb has an amazing passing ability, and he can hit his man under pressure.

And Brady doesn't have those abilities?

BassVirtuoso
02-02-2005, 03:02 PM
T.O is sure he will play. I get the Philly papers and he says that theres a 98% chance he will be playing. He feels 100%, but I don't know if that's how he plays. No matter what, the spread in Vegas has gotten a little closer.

Reaganista
02-02-2005, 09:08 PM
And Brady doesn't have those abilities?

McNabb is a better passer than Brady.

nrcafootball68
02-05-2005, 02:30 PM
21-14 eagles

Illmatic
02-05-2005, 03:59 PM
McNabb is a better passer than Brady.

Let's not go that far.

NaTaN
02-05-2005, 05:33 PM
31-28 EAGLES BABY! I live in Philly and im a linebacker

Hababi
02-05-2005, 06:16 PM
38-27 Patriots. Brady is the best quarterback in the league in big games, and some on the Eagles are going to be happy just to be there.

Remember, Brady's still never lost a playoff game, and he shredded a very good Pittsburgh defense (:() after having a high fever and an IV in his arm the night before. McNabb is a very good quarterback, but not in the same league.

TheSeeker625
02-05-2005, 06:44 PM
Its not gonna be a high scoring game. I think its gonna be something like 17-10 and the Patriots are just gonna control the ball the whole game and win it.

Reaganista
02-05-2005, 09:16 PM
McNabb is a very good quarterback, but not in the same league.

Disregarding statistics or any actual facts, this could be construed as true.

Illmatic
02-05-2005, 09:19 PM
McNabb is more talented and is better in the regular season.

Brady is smarter and is better in the playoffs.

Take your pick.

Reaganista
02-05-2005, 09:32 PM
I've already picked McNabb.

Illmatic
02-05-2005, 09:36 PM
I'll take the guy with two Super Bowl rings.

:D

AMAC
02-06-2005, 11:42 AM
28-17 Pats

Danger Bird
02-06-2005, 11:47 AM
The Super Bowl will be cancelled, as it is illegal to televise executions.

AMAC
02-06-2005, 11:51 AM
The Super Bowl will be cancelled, as it is illegal to televise executions.


REP+++++++++

Schyma
02-06-2005, 11:56 AM
Hope NE covers the spread.

The Jolly Pakistani
02-06-2005, 11:59 AM
The Super Bowl will be cancelled, as it is illegal to televise executions.

:lol:

Danger Bird
02-06-2005, 12:24 PM
Wow, I didn't think I was that funny.

The Jolly Pakistani
02-06-2005, 12:24 PM
28-21, Pats

vun tu dree

devils_night
02-06-2005, 02:41 PM
I've never watched any NFL ever I don't think (English) but I'm going to watch the super bowl what time does it "kick off", coverage starts at 10pm over here.

I'm supporting New England because England, yeh I'm a dick lol

devils_night
02-06-2005, 02:43 PM
Also, is there a website for it, I want to find out more

RCA
02-06-2005, 02:47 PM
Also, is there a website for it, I want to find out more

Yes, superbowl.com I think.

devils_night
02-06-2005, 02:51 PM
Cheers

Danger Bird
02-06-2005, 02:52 PM
America invented the internets.

dancetomdance182
02-06-2005, 04:11 PM
Superbowl starts in exactly 45 minutes.

iliketoplaydrums10111
02-06-2005, 04:17 PM
Sup to Super Bowl party and getting full

Hot Wings, Chili Dogs, Chips, Deserts etc...

Hababi
02-06-2005, 05:51 PM
Disregarding statistics or any actual facts, this could be construed as true.


Tom Brady: 2 superbowl MVP's
McNabb: 0 appearances/MVP's till now

For Brady, 3 after tonight :cool:

Zmev
02-06-2005, 06:22 PM
****, quit turning it over Philly.

simplephotographinthesun
02-06-2005, 06:24 PM
****, quit turning it over Philly.

amen

Hababi
02-06-2005, 06:24 PM
3 first quarter turnovers? Not going to win that way.

simplephotographinthesun
02-06-2005, 06:32 PM
Pinkston Wtf?

pixiesfanyo
02-06-2005, 06:50 PM
I like this score, how about you Zero?

Hababi
02-06-2005, 06:56 PM
Hehe don't worry, Patriots are driving.

LeperAffinity
02-06-2005, 06:58 PM
The second half will belong to the Pats. Mark my words. Both teams will explode and score like mad, bu the Pats will have the upper hand.

shadowsfall16
02-06-2005, 07:00 PM
TouchdownX5 for pats in second half



OWNAGE!

Hababi
02-06-2005, 07:02 PM
touchdown Patriots!! :cool: :D

pikester
02-06-2005, 07:25 PM
ever notice how when the arena announcer guy is talking it echoes like hell, and when paul mccartney is playing... no reverb at whatsoever.

cheesepuff
02-06-2005, 07:27 PM
Anyone actually watching the half-time show? GO PATS! WOO!

It's been an awesome game thus far though, I must say.

pikester
02-06-2005, 07:37 PM
what a miserable halftime show.

no controversy at all.

eddierulesVH
02-06-2005, 08:14 PM
28-21
patriots

eddierulesVH
02-06-2005, 08:15 PM
what a miserable halftime show.

no controversy at all.
WTF!!!!!?????mcartney was awesome

A7Xfan
02-06-2005, 08:38 PM
the final score will be 28-14 Pats with Brady being the MVP (again) and i am usually never wrong

pixiesfanyo
02-06-2005, 08:40 PM
Good Game.

I bet Eagles get a touchdown though.

And the kid that is "Never wrong" is wrong.

pixiesfanyo
02-06-2005, 08:52 PM
Plus it is impossible for them to get 4 points.

So good game kid that is never wrong.

Faggot.

LeperAffinity
02-06-2005, 08:59 PM
Plus it is impossible for them to get 4 points.

So good game kid that is never wrong.

Faggot.
2 Safeties at 2 points each. Rare, but not impossible.

Kurtz
02-06-2005, 09:02 PM
So, Tway, when you get on, state your thoughts on the game.

Damn Patriots. :(

pixiesfanyo
02-06-2005, 09:03 PM
... ok.

if they get like a 80 yard sack.

That'll happen.

GG.

pixiesfanyo
02-06-2005, 09:03 PM
Acutally, if the Eagles score here. And go for the onside.

They still have a chance.

Zmev
02-06-2005, 09:05 PM
TOUCHDOWNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

pixiesfanyo
02-06-2005, 09:07 PM
sigh.

/me bes eagles fan and is pessmistic.

+ can't spell

pixiesfanyo
02-06-2005, 09:10 PM
T.O. will have his moment, if the Eagles get the ball.

pixiesfanyo
02-06-2005, 09:12 PM
Oh shittttt

pixiesfanyo
02-06-2005, 09:14 PM
Who ever wins, I just want to say this has been probably the best superbowl in 5 years.

Zmev
02-06-2005, 09:16 PM
Dammit.

Hababi
02-06-2005, 09:17 PM
Patriots win! :D

pixiesfanyo
02-06-2005, 09:17 PM
Let's go kill Brady.

He's such a faggot.

simplephotographinthesun
02-06-2005, 09:18 PM
Who ever wins, I just want to say this has been probably the best superbowl in 5 years.

was the titans vs rams 5 years ago? if so, you are correct sir :thumb:

Zmev
02-06-2005, 09:18 PM
Let's go kill Brady.

He's such a faggot.

123

Hababi
02-06-2005, 09:19 PM
was the titans vs rams 5 years ago? if so, you are correct sir


No way, Patriots v Panthers was the greatest. The second half of that one was mind blowing.

simplephotographinthesun
02-06-2005, 09:20 PM
No way, Patriots v Panthers was the greatest. The second half of that one was mind blowing.

lies

cheesepuff
02-06-2005, 09:20 PM
GGKTHX.

Seriously though, good game.

























WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! GO PATRIOTS!!!!

EAT **** FREDDIE

RCA
02-06-2005, 09:20 PM
W00t! Pats win. Great game though, and hats off to TO for a great game played by him.

pixiesfanyo
02-06-2005, 09:21 PM
At least we all know the Eagles and the Patriots both own those faggots from Pittsburgh.

LeperAffinity
02-06-2005, 09:22 PM
DY-NAS-TY
My avatar does not lie.

I'm eagerly awaiting Tway's response to his perfect prediction not coming true.

pixiesfanyo
02-06-2005, 09:23 PM
If you think the Pats owned the Eagles you are being ridiculous.

That game could've gone either way.

The Eagles fell apart a bit sooner than the Pats on D though.

simplephotographinthesun
02-06-2005, 09:24 PM
ill believe the patriots are a dynasty when they win a superbowl by more than three points :p

BaD kArMa
02-06-2005, 09:25 PM
That was complete bull**** thats what it was 3 muth flippin points gay as hell...

Zmev
02-06-2005, 09:27 PM
See avatar and user title for more details.

LeperAffinity
02-06-2005, 09:27 PM
ill believe the patriots are a dynasty when they win a superbowl by more than three points :p
Yet if the Eagles won it by 3, would everyone be saying it was just a fluke? Nope...people are just anti New England. I'll be the first to admit our offense was less than spectacular, but the defense stepped up and played a phenomenal game throughout.

ThePatient
02-06-2005, 09:27 PM
Suck that Owens. Suck it long, and suck it hard. I wonder where he'll want to go this offseason...

Wanker
02-06-2005, 09:29 PM
Does anyone else think that Bob Kraft (sp?) looks an awful lot like William Shatner from far away?

LeperAffinity
02-06-2005, 09:30 PM
It's amusing how quickly Tway got rid of his avatar.

cheesepuff
02-06-2005, 09:31 PM
Once again, I'd just like to say,


WOO!

Yamaha2k3
02-06-2005, 09:38 PM
I hate the Pats with a passion :angry: . It's about time for another football team to win the Superbowl. Go Broncos :)

TheSubtleArts
02-06-2005, 09:40 PM
haha owens

Zmev
02-06-2005, 09:41 PM
people are just anti New England.

Well their uniforms are pretty **** ugly.