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Grey Incision

01-22-2005, 05:14 AM

Discuss, what were your thoughts on the movie, and thoughts of the theory behind it all?

OiItsFatmatt

01-22-2005, 07:02 AM

it's aged badly

good film though

Robdrummer

01-22-2005, 07:33 AM

This movie was so brilliant because it has a little of everything in it. Kubrick did a nice job of staying accurate with the novel, by Anthony Burgess. Great sound track.

xHysteriax

01-22-2005, 09:44 AM

One of the best films i have ever seen. I love the part when he goes to the authors house and rapes his wife while singin, Im singin in the rain

Zappa

01-22-2005, 10:36 AM

I liked this movie, but it's not a favorite. I haven't been able to really dig on any Kubrick films, actually.

pendrightheloved1

01-22-2005, 11:06 AM

Book > Film

I like it though.

punkster998

01-22-2005, 12:24 PM

I like it but it's not one of my favorite.

Rockafella

01-22-2005, 04:41 PM

2nd favourite movie, sounds sort of weird coming from a 13 year old :p

Robdrummer

01-22-2005, 04:59 PM

Has anyone figured out why is called Clockwork Orange, besides the fact that the old guy titled his book that? (not the real author, the guy in the book)

Der Meister

01-22-2005, 06:35 PM

A good film, one of Kubricks best IMO

griftadan

01-22-2005, 07:10 PM

alex is a pImp

Iai

01-22-2005, 07:12 PM

It was my favourite film for a very long time.

It's since been displaced by Dr. Strangelove.

Yes, I'm a fanboy.

UnitedWeStand

01-22-2005, 07:12 PM

Kubrick = incredibly overrated, A Clockwork orange is no exception. If you found this movie even slightly interesting I suggest maybe seeing a few more movies or playing some videogames.

Thor

01-22-2005, 07:17 PM

Kubrick = incredibly overrated, A Clockwork orange is no exception. If you found this movie even slightly interesting I suggest maybe seeing a few more movies or playing some videogames.
Yeah, he has no talent (rolls eyes into back of skull). Lets just take a quick look at some of his films, shall we?

Spartacus
2001: A Space Odyssey
A Clockwork Orance
The Shining
Full Metal Jacket

All of these are classics and should be considered pieces of art. Yeah, he really has no talent. (continues rolling eyes).

By the way, what kind of movies are you interested in?

Iai

01-22-2005, 07:19 PM

Kubrick = incredibly overrated
You = suck.

UnitedWeStand

01-22-2005, 07:37 PM

Yeah, he has no talent (rolls eyes into back of skull). Lets just take a quick look at some of his films, shall we?

Spartacus
2001: A Space Odyssey
A Clockwork Orance
The Shining
Full Metal Jacket

you make a good point, all them movies was real bad

jaymz_is_god

01-23-2005, 05:43 AM

I enjoyed Clockwork Orange. Wouldn't say it's a great movie, but it was pretty good.

Donnie Darko

01-23-2005, 05:46 AM

Yeah I thought it was great at the time. But I look back now and I dont have the greatest memories of it. I think I got more enjoyment out of the book. But yeah the movie was worth seeing.

badtaste

01-23-2005, 05:54 AM

I couldn't read the whole book. All that lingo was mind boggling and messy, but interesting.

However, the movie must be one of the best cult films in history.

Donnie Darko

01-23-2005, 06:04 AM

Nadsat. Nah I really enjoyed that book. Did take me about 2-3 reads before I really got a grasp of the lingo.

guitarded_chuck

01-23-2005, 04:52 PM

I didn't find the lingo that hard. Awesome movie, maybe even better book. Kubrick made a bunch of my favorites.

Thor

01-23-2005, 06:30 PM

you make a good point, all them movies was real bad
Your right. Now please excuse me while I go listen to my Lil Jon CD and watch The Real World. (continues rolling eyes some more).

blockhead

01-23-2005, 07:35 PM

This movie was so brilliant because it has a little of everything in it. Kubrick did a nice job of staying accurate with the novel, by Anthony Burgess. Great sound track.
No, he didn't. Did you read the book? In the book Alex reforms. This is a major detail left out in the movie.

guitarded_chuck

01-23-2005, 07:37 PM

No, he didn't. Did you read the book? In the book Alex reforms. This is a major detail left out in the movie.
Yea, that's why I like the book much more. But it's okay that the movie is different. If was the exact same, there would be no originality to the movie at all.

blockhead

01-23-2005, 07:37 PM

Has anyone figured out why is called Clockwork Orange, besides the fact that the old guy titled his book that? (not the real author, the guy in the book)
You are a moron. How can you not grasp that simple of a concept? It's called A Clockwork Orange, because Alex is an organic being with a choice between good and evil and a personality. Through Ludovico's Technique his choice between good and evil is taken away and he is more like a machine. So a Clockwork Orange means that something some what "mechanical" that appears to be an organic creature that can choose on the outside.

blockhead

01-23-2005, 07:39 PM

Yea, that's why I like the book much more. But it's okay that the movie is different. If was the exact same, there would be no originality to the movie at all.
True. I kind of wish he would have included the part where Alex kills the guy in prison though. Kubrick did add a lot with the scenery and whatnot.

guitarded_chuck

01-23-2005, 07:48 PM

blockhead

01-23-2005, 07:54 PM

Yea, it's almost an "artsy" movie with all the color, angles and music. I think he did a good job with it. Since Kubrick often took novels and changed them around to make his movies, the authors often complained, and so did Anthony Burgess. (that's who wrote the novel right? it's been awhile)
Yeah, Anthony Burgess. I think Burgess was mainly upset because he left out the final chapter and how the violence was shown the way that Alex would see it.

guitarded_chuck

01-23-2005, 08:01 PM

blockhead

01-23-2005, 08:03 PM

Yea, Burgess thought that the last chapter was very important to the story, and without it the story is unfinished. I agree with him somewhat, and if it was my own novel I definitley would. I would have liked to see Kubrick include Burgess' ending though. It is way more interesting.
He also felt that when the 21st chapter was taken out of the book for the American version that it lost some of its power, because he felt the 21 chapters was significant because thats an age of maturity.

guitarded_chuck

01-23-2005, 08:05 PM

He also felt that when the 21st chapter was taken out of the book for the American version that it lost some of its power, because he felt the 21 chapters was significant because thats an age of maturity.
Yep. There's a bunch of this kind of info in my novel. I'd go get it and check out what else Burgess had to say about the movie, but I'm lazy. I think I might start reading that novel again though, and watch the movie. Not like it takes very long to read, I think it's not much more than 200 pages.

blockhead

01-23-2005, 08:13 PM

Yep. There's a bunch of this kind of info in my novel. I'd go get it and check out what else Burgess had to say about the movie, but I'm lazy. I think I might start reading that novel again though, and watch the movie. Not like it takes very long to read, I think it's not much more than 200 pages.
I think you're talking about A Clockwork Orange Resucked. The introduction done by Anthony Burgess on the newer versions of the book?

guitarded_chuck

01-23-2005, 08:15 PM

I think you're talking about A Clockwork Orange Resucked. The introduction done by Anthony Burgess on the newer versions of the book?
Umm, maybe. The intro might not actually be written by Burgess, just someone expressing what his opinions were and such. I don't know, I'll post it tomorow after I check out the book tonight.

blockhead

01-23-2005, 08:16 PM

Umm, maybe. The intro might not actually be written by Burgess, just someone expressing what his opinions were and such. I don't know, I'll post it tomorow after I check out the book tonight.
Alright. On the cover of your book does it have flames and a guys mouth wide-open like hes screaming? If it is then I'm pretty sure thats the name of the introduction and that its written by Burgess. I'm not positive though. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0393312836/qid=1106533011/sr=2-1/ref=pd_ka_b_2_1/104-2126033-4875953

guitarded_chuck

01-23-2005, 08:21 PM

Nope, not that one. It is a newer version, I think, though. I bought it maybe a year ago. It'd paperback and has a glass of milk, I mean, moloko-plus, on the front. :thumb:
I didn't see it anywhere there.

ToyDolls

01-23-2005, 08:22 PM

Because of the Internet, and you, I now hate this movie. (Book. For you retard Nazis.)

guitarded_chuck

01-23-2005, 08:30 PM

Because of the Internet, and you, I now hate this movie. (Book. For you retard Nazis.)
Uhh...why?

Zengeance

01-24-2005, 02:24 AM

This is my absolute favorite movie of all time. I love Wendy Carlos' symphonic rock, it really adds to the mood. And the cinematography is excellent for it's age. My favorite parts are when they're walking close to the water, and Alex decides to beat up 2 of his "droogs" because of their questioning. And the fight between the two 'gangs' is ridiculous... but I enjoyed it. Great great movie.