Ska Education and Discussion

[Brain Toad]

Ska Education and Discussion

I decided to do this after I tired of all the ska threads we get. Face it, ska is a big genre, second or third most discussed genre here in punk, so why not have a discussion thread just for it. Also why not learn, learning is fun!

First and foremost, check out Kithkin's two threads on Ska. The first offers explnations of waves, the second offers a very good list of bands.

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71269
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=185472

Ska is a form of Jamician music that formed in the early 1950s, it led to creation of rocksteady the one of Jamica's most famous imports, reggae. In basic ska is a blend of American R&B and traditional Jamican music such as mento and calypso. Ska is the permier genre listened to rude boys and girls, as well as the first wave of skinheads.

After World War II Jamicans began purchasing radios in large numbers and could pick up signals from the southern United States, most notably, New Oreleans. With these American airwaves came the sounds of New Orleans R&B. The Jamicans loved it. To meet the demand for this type of music, entrpenurs such as Prince Buster, Clement Dodd, and Duke Reed set up sound systems, which were portable discotheques that appeared at dances and gatherings.

When R&B fell out of favor in New Orleads in 1960, the Jamicans began recording their own interpretation of the music. Ska is known for is accented upbeats on guitar and piano. The orgin of the name is disputed between the traditional Jamican greeting "Love Skavoovie", or the sounds the music made, described by guitarist Ernest Ranglin as "skat! skat! skat!". The use of these upbeats may of come from minsinterpretations of early jazz and rock and roll broadcasts, which would sound like the off beat sounds we hear in ska because of the break up in weak radio signals. Others disagree with this and say that it is not a misinterpretation, but Jamica's response to America's music.

As American music changed, so did the influence on Ska. As jazz and rock and roll became more popular in the States, Ska bands started doing insturmental covers of popular American and British songs. And in 1966-67, when soul came into place, Ska made its transion into rocksteady, which lasted as the predominant genre until reggae in the late 60s.

In the early 60s, ska was brought to the UK by Prince Buster and U-Roy. This music had a big impact on the UK folk, and they began their own versions of ska, marking the birth of the 2nd wave. The 2nd wave was pioneered by the record label Two-Tone. Two-Tone saw the first influences of punk on the genre along with British rock and pop. The music was sped up and given a British accent.

The third wave was when Ska hit America. American punk had a big influence on this wave of ska, along with hardcore and other predominat American punk sub-genres. A lot bands from the third wave didn't always follow the same sound however. Some went so far as being just punk with a bit of ska, while some went the oppsite direction and started making first and second wave type ska.

Rocksteady:
Rocksteady came about around 1966 due to an unusually hot summer (which meant that people couldn't dance as fast) as well as a genrally desire for change. Bass lines became more intricate, horns were increasingly deemed irrevelant and keyboards or extra rhythm guitars filled the space. many ska bands such as Desmond Dekker & The Aces, The Paragons (who did the original Tide Is High which was later slaughtered by Blondie and Atomic Kitten), The Gaylads and The Maytals adopted the genre (which took it's name from an Anton Ellis track) popularising it. After a few years Rocksteady transmuted into Reggae with tracks such as Toots & The Maytals "Do The Reggay."


Dances:
For a skanking tutorial, see the first link above to Kithkin's post.
Moonstomping is another ska/reggae dance move, which consists of lifiting your knees high and stomping them to the beta of the music. This move is often associated with the skinheads in ska

Bands:
1st Wave:
Desmond Dekker
Laurel Aitken
Prince Buster
Symarip
The Ethiopians
The Skatalites
Toots & the Maytals
Hepcat (part of the third wave, but play 1st wave)
The Slackers (part of third wave, but play 1st wave)
Judge Dread

Two-Tone:
Bad Manners
Madness
The (English) Beat
The Selecter
The Specials
Special Beat
The Toasters (part of the third wave, but play two-tone)

Third Wave:
Bandits of the Acoustic Revolution
Big D and the Kids Table
Catch 22
Less Than Jake
Mad Caddies
Mephiskapheles
MU330
Mustard Plug
The O.C. Supertones
Operation Ivy
Pain
Reel Big Fish
RX Bandits
Ska-P
Skankin' Pickle
Streetlight Manifesto
Choking Victim
The Heatskores
Deltones
Hotknives
The Loafers
Maroon Town
Potato 5
The Riffs
Skadows
The Trojans

Now being discussing ska. Keep it to this thread, new threads about ska need not to be made. Any one else who would like to contribute is free, and I'll add any new info into this post.

Enjoy

Additions:
Rocksteady definition by sketchyjoe
Moving of bands and addition of bands by Oi!Tricky
Moonstomping explanation by superskankinactionhero

[SantaDuJuan]

What about Rocksteady?

[superskankinactionhero]

nice one nick, we've been in need of something like this! anyone who wants to know anything about ska, ask it in this thread and there's bound to be someone who'll be able to help you out. for now, i'm pretty sure everyone who reads that will have a basic knowledge of ska, it covers most of the stuff anyone getting into ska will need!

p.s. don't limit this to just ska, include reggae, dub etc

[Brain Toad]

Yeah, expand to other ska influence genres and Jamican music. I didn't cover rocksteady, because I don't know about it, and Wikipedia didn't cover it.

[sketchyjoe]

Rocksteady: Rocksteady came about around 1966 due to an unusually hot summer (which meant that people couldn't dance as fast) as well as a genrally desire for change. Bass lines became more intricate, horns were increasingly deemed irrevelant and keyboards or extra rhythm guitars filled the space. many ska bands such as Desmond Dekker & The Aces, The Paragons (who did the original Tide Is High which was later slaughtered by Blondie and Atomic Kitten), The Gaylads and The Maytals adopted the genre (which took it's name from an Anton Ellis track) popularising it. After a few years Rocksteady transmuted into Reggae with tracks such as Toots & The Maytals "Do The Reggay."

Rocksteady is often overlooked compared to ska or reggae but it's a great genre. Check out some of the bands I mentioned and you'll see. The Trojan Rocksteady Box Set is a good place to start and is reckoned by many to be the best of the Trojan Box Sets.

[superskankinactionhero]

*goes to his favourites*

overview of rocksteady:

http://ska.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?zi=1/XJ&sdn=ska&zu=http%3A%2F%2Fhome1.swipnet.se%2F%7Ew-64697%2Frocksteady.htm

it's pretty good actually, not AMAZING though

[sketchyjoe]

I wrote mine myself.

[superskankinactionhero]

Toots & The Maytals "Do The Reggay."

this song set the name for the whole reggae genre

[sketchyjoe]

I know. There's another song that was released a few months later that actually considerd the first proper Reggae record but I can't remember it off the top of my head.

[Jessizzle]

The Heatskores need to be mentioned in this thread. becuase they are awessome ska/punk.

Im bad with my lables. so that makes them 3rd wave?

[superskankinactionhero]

it wasn't toots and the maytals - pressure drop was it?

[Jessizzle]

hm. i know the dead kennedys are punk. but does anyone else think they have an "upbeat" sound,?

[superskankinactionhero]

in some songs/parts they have upbeat parts, but not really the same sort of upbeat, their's is more rock n roll-ish i feel. and please keep this thread alive for another twelve hours! by that time i'll have slept, gone to work and come back again. :)

[pedro durruti]

Not generally, but DK have an upbeat sound in some songs, but so do tons of bands

[roofee0]

The only problems I have are the placements of Hepcat, The Slackers, and The Toasters because waves are more of a time period than a sound.

[pedro durruti]

They're both sound and periods of time. Each wave is characterized by certain sounds but that doesn't necessarily mean trad/two tone bands can't be new

[roofee0]

Well, I've always seen the wave numbers as time periods and then trad, two tone, and such are just some of the styles that were generally played in those times. I'm not quite sure if that made sense at all. It's hard to explain.

[pedro durruti]

Yeah I know what you mean. If someone said third wave I wouldn't know whether they were talking about skapunk or a traditonal sounding band, but if someone said first wave I would assume they were talking about one of the original Jamaican bands of the 60's

[pedro durruti]

What about Rocksteady?
Hey, I've got an idea! Let's quote a really long post just to piss everyone off! Yeah!!

[Vietnow]

What's Ska?

[Jessizzle]

Its Where White Kids Dance To Black Music.

[Brain Toad]

I understand the confusion, hence the added in notes. I actuall go by the sound more, because I can never remember the period a band is from. I really thought Toasters was an orginal two-tone band until I read up on it.

[Forest_Fire]

i thought they were two-tone too. what year did they form?

[AIRIC]

I would say the Slackers are two-tone, correct? Anyway, really really great band. Wasted Days is probably one of my favorite ska songs ever. The whole album is great.


(wheres my rep, faggot.)

[Silvermedalmafia]

Hey, I've got an idea! Let's quote a really long post just to piss everyone off! Yeah!!
Thats why I have him on the ignore list. Oh crap, now I need to add something about ska to this post....erm...ska is for skanks?

[G CHORD KING]

So where did the popular 'skank' dance come into play such an important role, especially, from what I've seen, in third wave ska?

[pedro durruti]

I would say the Slackers are two-tone, correct? Anyway, really really great band. Wasted Days is probably one of my favorite ska songs ever. The whole album is great.


(wheres my rep, faggot.)
Lots of people consider them two tone but they sound trad to me

[skankinBassist]

So where did the popular 'skank' dance come into play such an important role, especially, from what I've seen, in third wave ska?


Kithkin wrote about the dance to each wave here:

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71269

[IPlayItAll]

I love to Skank :thumb:

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

Lots of people consider them two tone but they sound trad to me

I'd agree with that, good band though whatever they are

[OI!Tricky]

The third wave was when Ska hit America. American punk had a big influence on this wave of ska, along with hardcore and other predominat American punk sub-genres. A lot bands from the third wave didn't always follow the same sound however. Some went so far as being just punk with a bit of ska, while some went the oppsite direction and started making first and second wave type ska.





Two-Tone:
Bad Manners
Judge Dread
Madness
The (English) Beat
The Selector
The Specials
Special Beat
The Toasters (part of the third wave, but play two-tone)

Third Wave:
Bandits of the Acoustic Revolution
Big D and the Kids Table
Catch 22
Less Than Jake
Mad Caddies
Mephiskapheles
MU330
Mustard Plug
The O.C. Supertones
Operation Ivy
Pain
Rell Big Fish
RX Bandits
Ska-P
Skankin' Pickle
Streetlight Manifesto
Choking Victim
The Heatskores



I'm British,been listening to Ska since I was a small kid in the late 60's as it was part of the pop music at the time.
Why have you put Judge Dread in the 2nd wave when he started making records in the late 60's?
The 3rd wave to me is the Brit.bands that came after 2-Tone;-
Deltones
Hotknives
The Loafers
Maroon Town
Potato 5
The Riffs
Skadows
The Trojans etc,why no mention of these bands or their 'scene'?

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

you add it, the thread's for education so you post what you know

[Brothel_Creeper]

because you cant name every ska band ever

[superskankinactionhero]

The Selector
Rell Big Fish


The Selecter
Reel Big Fish

[Sparrer77]

there is only a few third wave songs i like, none i can name off the top of my head
but the selecter would be my favourite, and i cant sleep at night with out listening to my "The Very Worst(best) of Judge Dread" cd

[MothEatenDeerHead213]

Nick, ska sucks. Ska revival isnt cool you stupid ****

[IPlayItAll]

there is only a few third wave songs i like, none i can name off the top of my head
but the selecter would be my favourite, and i cant sleep at night with out listening to my "The Very Worst(best) of Judge Dread" cd

Everything Went Numb - Streetlight Manifesto
Milk - RxBandits
The Gentleman - Mad Caddies

To Name a few...

[superskankinactionhero]

what's everyone's favourite wave of ska? i'm gonna have to say two-tone, just for the fact it makes me wanna dance EVERY time i hear it, not just most of the time

[SantaDuJuan]

2 tone probly.

[dudetezz]

what's everyone's favourite wave of ska? i'm gonna have to say two-tone, just for the fact it makes me wanna dance EVERY time i hear it, not just most of the time

Im a two tone man, everyone always puts on third-wave at parties which is cool, but i cant help but think they'd be better off with "One Step Beyond" or "Too Much Too Young"

[superskankinactionhero]

Im a two tone man, everyone always puts on third-wave at parties which is cool, but i cant help but think they'd be better off with "One Step Beyond" or "Too Much Too Young"

haha definitely man. third wave is darn good party music though

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

third wave like Suicide Machines, choking Victim, OP Ivy, Leftover Crack is my favourite, but the average two tone band is better than the average third wave without a doubt

[OI!Tricky]

1st wave)Prince Buster/Judge Dread
2nd wave)The Specials/The Beat
3rd wave)The Trojans/Maroon Town

[sketchyjoe]

haha definitely man. third wave is darn good party music though
As far as party music goes nothing beats Madness or Bad Manners.

[albert_bass]

I saw there's a spanish band on that list: Ska-p. Their 3 first albums are nice but the more albums they release the less I like them. Everyone knows them here and they became mainstream cunts. But the "S-T", El vals del obrero" and "Eurosis" are good albums.

And nice job, it was about time that someone made this.

[AdictAddict]

As far as party music goes nothing beats Madness or Bad Manners.
123

[AdictAddict]

1st wave)Prince Buster/Judge Dread
2nd wave)The Specials/The Beat
3rd wave)The Trojans/Maroon Town
hmm, i had considered judge dread to be 2nd wave. You are probably right, though.

[Brain Toad]

what's everyone's favourite wave of ska? i'm gonna have to say two-tone, just for the fact it makes me wanna dance EVERY time i hear it, not just most of the time

Two-tone, mainly because of Madness.

[Brain Toad]

I'm British,been listening to Ska since I was a small kid in the late 60's as it was part of the pop music at the time.
Why have you put Judge Dread in the 2nd wave when he started making records in the late 60's?
The 3rd wave to me is the Brit.bands that came after 2-Tone;-
Deltones
Hotknives
The Loafers
Maroon Town
Potato 5
The Riffs
Skadows
The Trojans etc,why no mention of these bands or their 'scene'?

I didn't list those bands because I listing more accessible bands. and bands I knew. I saw some on the list I was taking from but I didn't add them. Judge Dread was also listed in 2nd wave.

3rd is mainly the American answer to ska, punk ska and the like. What you listed could probably still be listed second, or even just british ska revival.

[pedro durruti]

http://artpad.art.com/gallery/?iafgj4nhltk

[Brain Toad]

Ska is dead, and you're next!

[dudetezz]

As far as party music goes nothing beats Madness or Bad Manners.

Yeah, its that whole two-tone era again, awesome party vibe.

[Jessizzle]

Hm i tend to like 3rd wave the most. and 2 tone.

[staticshock]

^ditto

[thepo]

http://www.hxcmp3.com/bands/5184/

That's a really good 3rd wave band from Miami called The Floaters, but they broke up a while ago. Too bad, they were at the first show I went to. The mp3s are pretty crappy quality, but really worth a listen.

[Jessizzle]

http://www.theheatskores.com/home.htm

Best 3rd Wave band. EVER!
the sad thing is they dont even post their best songs on the site.

[blacklungfever]

PaintSteveGreen is the man! The Heatskores rule. But they do have Big Daddy's Slow Surf to Hell on there, which is probably my favourite song by them.

[Jessizzle]

i still say im no man.

Also Checkout http://www.purevolume.com/angryagency

[blacklungfever]

Haha... yeah theyre really good too. Now check out http://www.purevolume.com/theflatliners

[Jessizzle]

seen em.

[blacklungfever]

Yes, but im telling everyone, not just you, cause they rock.

[NuGgEt123]

Nick, ska sucks. Ska revival isnt cool you stupid ****

and if you don't believe me you're a shmuck.

[POINTLESS5448]

Yes, but im telling everyone, not just you, cause they rock.

your punk rock rock avatar rocks

[skankinBassist]

Where did the sub genre name "Ska Revival" come from?

i mean... ska was never dead

its like giving CPR to to someone just cuz they're asleep

[Brain Toad]

Where did the sub genre name "Ska Revival" come from?

i mean... ska was never dead

its like giving CPR to to someone just cuz they're asleep

The amount of ska being released slowed down, until there was a big boom of new bands, hence ska revival.

[skankinBassist]

o i see

thank you

[superskankinactionhero]

so people don't ask again, moonstomping is basically lifting your knees up high, and stomping rythmically to ska/reggae music

[mattlewis53]

I love ska, it's a shame there is nowhere to see a show where I live. Anyone know how to find info on local shows and such? I've sifted the web and haven't been able to turn up anything.

[Jessizzle]

where do you live?

[mattlewis53]

Longmont, Colorado (20 minutes from Boulder).

[emoboy]

dude, bands play denver all the time. just check your favorite ska bands websites and they have tour dates on them. The third leg of the ska is dead tour is coming in March. Bands play Fort Collins a lot too, and thats only like 40 minutes from longmont.

[Let's Chop Cats!]

Anyone like Hub City Stompers?

[dropkickstreetpunk]

i went to a ska show last night. it was local. i skanked for my first time and it was awesome. i have to say that a like ska a lot more now.

[Sparrer77]

i must say i love op ivy tho

[jimmyfreak]

you know im not sure if i really understand what you mean by two tone i think i get it but could you please explain it to me any way

[roofee0]

Did you even read the first post/the links on the first post?

[cant skank, but I love to.....]

I just wanted to know what some of your favorite ska bass lines are. I'd rather know ones that have been tabbed out on here, but any songs are cool.

[AIRIC]

My favorite wave is 3rd. two-tone still rules though, with the slackers and madness and stuff. 1st is cool too.

[Brain Toad]

you know im not sure if i really understand what you mean by two tone i think i get it but could you please explain it to me any way

Two-Tone was the second wave of ska. This was when Ska made it's way to England and it got influences from English rock and pop. With this ska sped up. The name of the wave if given because of the main record label of these bands, Two-Tone.

[wurm]

Woohoo! just got back from seeing mustard plug!

[sketchyjoe]

The name Two-Tone comes from the emphasis on anti-racism and the way lots of the bands had both black and white members.

[Forest_Fire]

The name Two-Tone comes from the emphasis on anti-racism and the way lots of the bands had both black and white members.


hence the black and white checkers




:: prays that i am right and not a stupid jackass::

[dropkickstreetpunk]

I just wanted to know what some of your favorite ska bass lines are. I'd rather know ones that have been tabbed out on here, but any songs are cool.
i like some less than jake basslines, they sound awesome. don't really know how hard they are, cause i dont play bass but o well.

[sketchyjoe]

hence the black and white checkers




:: prays that i am right and not a stupid jackass::
Yeah. And the Walt Jabsco character was inspired by Peter Tosh

There's a picture here.

[skankinBassist]

I just wanted to know what some of your favorite ska bass lines are. I'd rather know ones that have been tabbed out on here, but any songs are cool.


"A Flowery Song" by Five Iron Frenzy

it's simple... but the simplest bass lines sound the snazziest :cool:

[honkybrewster]

So I'm trying out the Specials. They're amazing.

[TheNowhereman42]

Yeah. And the Walt Jabsco character was inspired by Peter Tosh

There's a picture here.

Peter Tosh on the Wailing Wailers Studio One recordings cover :thumb:

[TheNowhereman42]

So I'm trying out the Specials. They're amazing.

pssh, poser

all the real ska kids were born with an undying love for The Specials

[honkybrewster]

But I am no ska kid. I'm more of the polka type.

[mattlewis53]

dude, bands play denver all the time. just check your favorite ska bands websites and they have tour dates on them. The third leg of the ska is dead tour is coming in March. Bands play Fort Collins a lot too, and thats only like 40 minutes from longmont.

I don't know of any local bands that I like, you should give me some names and venues.

Edit: I already have tickets to Ska Is Dead III, thanks for the suggestion though.

[Brain Toad]

I just wanted to know what some of your favorite ska bass lines are. I'd rather know ones that have been tabbed out on here, but any songs are cool.

Any Madness bass line is amazing. I'm a guitarist, but I'd play bass just to play those lines.

[staticshock]

I just wanted to know what some of your favorite ska bass lines are. I'd rather know ones that have been tabbed out on here, but any songs are cool.


catch 22 - walking away is pretty good-there is a tab in musicians friend..they have a few others from keasbey nights that are good

the antimaniax have some cool ones too


if youre talking faster 3rd wave ska

[pedro durruti]

Link 80 has some crazy bass some times, like in Better Than ****

[staticshock]

^straight up..i love link 80

[jol33]

http://www.angelfire.com/hi5/rocknbowl/bowldex.html
watch the knockabouts video, definately not their best song, nor their best performance (it was their first gig), but still good

[chiskin1]

For those interested in a 3rd wave band playing traditional ska, reggae, northern soul and rocksteady, I highly recommend Deals Gone Bad from Chicago. These guys are incredible.

http://www.purevolume.com/dealsgonebad

[superskankinactionhero]

deals gone bad are ****ing good! they rock my socks clean off my feet

[cant skank, but I love to.....]

Is there a website listing the ska is dead tour dates?

[Jessizzle]

YEs. and there NOT commming to canada. W'hores

[pedro durruti]

Be patient, it says more dates and info to come

[Jessizzle]

:O really. Yayyyy.

But in other news. 1 f'ucking month till the ska fest!

[cant skank, but I love to.....]

so, what's the website?

[Jessizzle]

its just like www.skaisdead.com not sure if thats it but its similar.

[roofee0]

Yeah. That's it.

[cant skank, but I love to.....]

that's not it...........or maybe my computers just being dumb...............

[pedro durruti]

It's down right now

[Forest_Fire]

try the streetlight manifesto site

[FergBass]

Matt Freeman is a god...time bomb by rancid not madly difficult but dead flowing...

Also freeze up by op ivy...the man again.

[Jessizzle]

Op Ivy>Rancid.

[roofee0]

that's not it...........or maybe my computers just being dumb...............

It's got the right text. They just have the url screwed up.

[CDR_Cool]

Nice Job on the post dude, I always had trouble understanding the waves and such. People think I'm crazy when I say reggae came from ska, cuz the only ska they know are bands like rbf or ltj. silly people

[POINTLESS5448]

Matt Freeman is a god...time bomb by rancid not madly difficult but dead flowing...

Also freeze up by op ivy...the man again.

Hes not the only talented bassist you know.

[NuGgEt123]

Matt Freeman is a god...time bomb by rancid not madly difficult but dead flowing...

Also freeze up by op ivy...the man again.

time bomb isn't that special of a bass line. but maxwell murder has a pretty intense bass solo.

[Forest_Fire]

personally, i like his op ivy stuff better. and maxwell murder solo isnt that great, nor that hard to play. i learned it all and could play it pretty well within about 1/2 hour of printing out the tab

[Inspector Ska]

Matt Wong from RBF plays some pretty awsome bass stuff. i love it all

[Jessizzle]

Bump.

I HAD to do it.

[Sid]

Pickituppickituppickitup.

[Let's Chop Cats!]

You people should listen to Ednas Goldfish.

[Sid]

Matt Freeman is a god...time bomb by rancid not madly difficult but dead flowing...

Also freeze up by op ivy...the man again.

Timebomb is actually a very simple bassline. Although it does sound nice, there are no difficult parts to it.

[Forest_Fire]

You people should listen to Ednas Goldfish.

ive heard em before, but i dont remember them. at all.

theyre on turn up the ska :thumb:

[Shtein]

Streetlight Manifesto Kicks ***

[Sid]

Ska Pirate, did you have an mx name before this one?

[Forest_Fire]

No way. i bet you all my star wars action figures they don't









Except Boba Fett. I never bet the fett man.

Sk8Ska Edit: :thumb:

[Forest_Fire]

Ska Pirate, did you have an mx name before this one?


Nope

[pedro durruti]

Edna's Goldfish is mediocre third wave.. very good if you like poppy ska

[roofee()]

Anybody want to reccomend me a good Bad Manners CD to start out with.

[AdictAddict]

Anybody want to reccomend me a good Bad Manners CD to start out with.
magnetism maybe? i liked that one a lot :thumb:

[roofee0]

Thanks. I'll look for it sometime.

[Pembo]

Lots of Rancid's more ska stuff have awesome basslines. Time Bomb is quite good for it's simplicity, but I reckon the bassline from I Wanna Riot is just as good. Rediculously simple, as well.

[KingOfSka]

reccomend me some good streetlight manifesto songs

[pedro durruti]

Point/Counterpoint
Everything Went Numb
Failing, Flailing

[KingOfSka]

awesome thanks

[SantaDuJuan]

Give me some Two Tone bands.

Don't give me - The Selecter, The Specials, or Bad Manners.

[jol33]

whoo in like 2 weeks i am going to a gig called ska b q...its gunna be fantastic

[Inspector Ska]

Every streetlight manifesto song is a good one

[Inspector Ska]

does anybody know anything about The Littlest Man Band

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

Give me some Two Tone bands.

Don't give me - The Selecter, The Specials, or Bad Manners.
Madness, the Bodysnatchers, swinging Cats

[skankinBassist]

NO! we're supposed to be getting 2 feet of snow here in New Jersey and i might miss Big D tonight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it will only be the fourth time i've seen them!!

[superskankinactionhero]

does anybody know anything about The Littlest Man Band

ask Jas (the-UK-ska-scene)

[Jessizzle]

I think EVERYONE is seeing Big D soon.

[superskankinactionhero]

i certainly am!

[Jessizzle]

Anyone Seeing them at The Reverb February 5th?

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

i certainly am!

Big D are playing in England? You are a liar :angry:

[superskankinactionhero]

i just checked my sources and apparently they've cancelled :upset: they were booked to play in Bristol!

streetlight are still coming though

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

I'll check, but if you lie to me again your butt is mine

[TheNowhereman42]

Ska sucks everyone go home.

[skankinBassist]

^^ for shame!

Besides, the majority of us are sitting on our lazy arses at home anyway

[pedro durruti]

Give me some Two Tone bands.

Don't give me - The Selecter, The Specials, or Bad Manners.
Listen to Inspecter 7- "Skinhead two tone". They rule

[IFlogMyMolly16]

^^ for shame!

Besides, the majority of us are sitting on our lazy arses at home anyway
Only cuz it's snowing like a bitch.

[KingOfSka]

Only cuz it's snowing like a bitch.

hah...lucky you

its not snowing in Vancouver :(

[hendrixonpunk]

The Heatskores need to be mentioned in this thread. becuase they are awessome ska/punk.

Im bad with my lables. so that makes them 3rd wave?

yeah, it makes them third wave

actually i'm a fan of the heatskores and i noticed a lot of there songs actually have rock steady themes in them.

[hendrixonpunk]

Ska sucks everyone go home.

1. You're an idiot because ska doesn't suck
2. You're an idiot because most of us are at home.

[roofee0]

1. You're an idiot for not catching sarcasm.

[FergBass]

I know there are other good bassists my friend. Someone asked about nice basslines and i gave my opinion..it aint about being difficult s'all about the groove [in my opinion]...which i think the time bomb bassline has.

[superskankinactionhero]

please quote someone if you're gonna reply to something they said 3 pages ago!

[the Rudest Kaiser]

Howdy People, My name is Kaiser, and I just finished registering. My first post is a question for anyone who knows what the F theyre talkin' about. My friend was a 2 tone/oi skinhead GURU, and he made me many compilation tapes, or "sKamplers" as he put it, and some of them didnt come with playlist or track info. Im trying to Identify an amazing band, of whom I only have heard 1 song. My comp. tape is about to be kaput and theres no other way to achieve a copy I can think of, than you good folks. Its kind of a rough recording, so definately uncorporate, and its kind of ska' jazz'ish. A chorus, or bridge, or whatever, part of the song goes like "hear the shuffle on the street, people theyre on their hands and feet, singing the blues, singing the blues, doin what we have to do yeah". Theres a couple other parts I can make out the lyrics too, but the tape is kind of hard to hear. Ive had it for about 6 years and dont interact with any people into "GOOD MUSIC". I think the song kicks a mighty arse and would like to hear more of the group, so any help would be greatly appreciated. You will be hearing from me again, I hope, so Take It Easy!

[SantaDuJuan]

Thats alot to read.

[TheNowhereman42]

*doesn't help*

btw, Ihate

http://2-tone.info/artists/index.html <---list of every band to ever record with 2-tone records

and The Toasters are my current favorite 2-tone band,

[SantaDuJuan]

Thanks!

The Toasters were my favorite ska band for a while. Then I heard of The Specials. Then I learned that my favorite songs by them are covers. Then I heard of Bad Manners.

[TheNowhereman42]

haha, I personally went Specials > Bad Manners > Toasters

I still prefer the specials, just right now I'm listening to The Toasters alot.

my ska band is sooo close.

[SantaDuJuan]

I like The Toasters but they seem adverge to me now.

Bad Manners are just funny.

[loserman_4]

I just found this forum today, and i really dig whats goin on. I didnt relize that there were actually people out there who Appreciate Ska like i do.
Not alot of people even know what ska is:O.
I First was introduced to it, through my girlfriend. Catch 22-Supernothing, It was our song, ever since then ive been Ska-ing it up non-stop.

[loserman_4]

OH, Ive been trying to mix the ska sound in with some blues, does anyone know any good examples.

[superskankinactionhero]

Howdy People, My name is Kaiser, and I just finished registering. My first post is a question for anyone who knows what the F theyre talkin' about. My friend was a 2 tone/oi skinhead GURU, and he made me many compilation tapes, or "sKamplers" as he put it, and some of them didnt come with playlist or track info. Im trying to Identify an amazing band, of whom I only have heard 1 song. My comp. tape is about to be kaput and theres no other way to achieve a copy I can think of, than you good folks. Its kind of a rough recording, so definately uncorporate, and its kind of ska' jazz'ish. A chorus, or bridge, or whatever, part of the song goes like "hear the shuffle on the street, people theyre on their hands and feet, singing the blues, singing the blues, doin what we have to do yeah". Theres a couple other parts I can make out the lyrics too, but the tape is kind of hard to hear. Ive had it for about 6 years and dont interact with any people into "GOOD MUSIC". I think the song kicks a mighty arse and would like to hear more of the group, so any help would be greatly appreciated. You will be hearing from me again, I hope, so Take It Easy!

i googled the lyrics but nothing came up, sorry

[skankinBassist]

anyone know when the Skoidats formed? they sound new but they play 2-tone for a lot of their songs. I just want to know their wave by time period

Just got their "A Cure for What Ales You" CD... it's awesome

[roofee0]

Google Search: 1995

[TheNowhereman42]

I just found this forum today, and i really dig whats goin on. I didnt relize that there were actually people out there who Appreciate Ska like i do.
Not alot of people even know what ska is:O.
I First was introduced to it, through my girlfriend. Catch 22-Supernothing, It was our song, ever since then ive been Ska-ing it up non-stop.

Acctually I've deduced that if your around the age of 15-16, ALL of your friends listen to ska.

Because they all listen to Sublime.

[superskankinactionhero]

not many of my friend's listen to sublime, and most of them hate ska

[TheNowhereman42]

Most of my friends hate ska but listen to Sublime and Rancid.

[skankinBassist]

Google Search: 1995


thanks! :wave:

[roofee0]

^No problem.

I have a few friends that I introduced to ska and they like it, but everyone else hasn't even heard the word ska in their entire lives and think it's like a type of cereal or something.

[SlappedByTheClash]

Acctually I've deduced that if your around the age of 15-16, ALL of your friends listen to ska.

Because they all listen to Sublime.


My friends all hate Sublime and ska.


I feel lonely. :upset:


Hug me.

[TheNowhereman42]

Lots of kids at my school listen to LTJ, and I'm like "cool".

And then I get in their car and see the Anthem, and its the only cd they have by them, and I'm like "you suck"

[sketchyjoe]

The only people who like ska at my school just like 3rd wave stuff and think it came from reggae.

[Forest_Fire]

most of my close friends like ska, but a lot of people i just know like sublime and hate ska. and a kid in my health class told me he loved LTJ, and basically the same thing happened, and he had the new one too

[SlappedByTheClash]

The only people who like ska at my school just like 3rd wave stuff and think it came from reggae.


That's how it is around here too.

I'll wear my Specials shirt or something, and some kid will come up to me and be like, you're not giving respect to Bob Marley, he invented ska.

And I just stare.

And then they get a well deserved smack.

[SantaDuJuan]

Thats like my school also.

But I don't just stare at them.
I give them a long talking about how Ska came first. And then call them stupid or an idiot.

[SlappedByTheClash]

Thats like my school also.

But I don't just stare at them.
I give them a long talking about how Ska came first. And then call them stupid or an idiot.


I used to hand out lectures, but it got old.

They never listened anyway. They'll just never know the glory of a Desmond Dekker song, or even an Aquabats show.

But I do like the looks I get when I try to show them how to skank. :D

[skankinBassist]

o man... these girls at my school knew i couldnt make it to a Westbound Train and Vic Rugeirro show, so one IMs me over AIM and says "I'm going to that punk show you were talkin' about".... i wanted to shoot myself in the teeth.

off topic, but talking about annoying poser-like people.. Emo is an epidemic in my school.... u now have to wear girls' pants, X-Small T-Shirts, dye your hair black, and listen to Straylight Run and HelloGoodbye... now ur cool

[POINTLESS5448]

Everyone in my school is preps and gangstas.
But one kid likes ska so can hes cool.

[Jessizzle]

My school has alot of metal heads.

[SlappedByTheClash]

Everyone in my school is preps and gangstas.
But one kid likes ska so can hes cool.


Gangstas aren't as bad as ignorant "punk" kids.


They walk around with highwater pants and bowl haircuts and listen to My Chemical Romance...


And then have the nerve to say that I don't know what real punk is. :angry:


Needless to say, they all get regular beatdowns.

[Sid]

If you sport a bowl haircut, you're just asking to get your a'ss kicked.

[TheNowhereman42]

I have a bowl cut :angry: bowl cuts, like The Unseen, are ska as f'uck.

[pedro durruti]

I think I'm the only STUDENT that listens to ska from all three waves. There's a punk at my school who listens to some two tone and trad, but other than that it's just people that listen to Sublime and Bob Marley that says stupid stuff like "ska is like rock with horns" and "ska came from reggae". Oh and then my school has the Christians who like The Supertones and Five Iron Frenzy but don't listen to any non-christian ska bands

[TheNowhereman42]

Five Iron Frenzy broke up because their god told them to.

You'd be surprised how many people listen to ska. Unlike punks, who like to dress up in things, you can't tell a ska kid from the average person untill a show rolls into town.

[pedro durruti]

I've never seen anyone from my school (a 2,000+ population) at a ska show. And I've been to practically every Portland ska show in the past year

[TheNowhereman42]

maby you just have no friends so you don't regognize them.

[pedro durruti]

MAYBE you have sex with old men

[sketchyjoe]

My school is quite small for a secondary school (about a 1000 people) and I have the best taste in music. Seriously, I'm the only person who seems to listen to music that isn't mainstream.

[TheNowhereman42]

Wow, i've acctually spelled maby that way for my whole life an no one has every corrected me.

[sketchyjoe]

You spell like a baybe.

[TheNowhereman42]

f'uck the english language

[Brain Toad]

There is a few ska people at my school, I'm pretty sure they are third wave only, and maybe some second wave. Don't know if they think ska came from reggae, I don't talk to them much. I know my friend who likes punk also likes two tone and third wave, which is good.

[Pembo]

Bah! There's only quite a small handful of people who have any interest in ska at my school, most people are either into metal (which I don't mind, so I can cope with that) or mainstream rap (which I really can't cope with). There are a few more punk people, but they don't mind ska either, which is good.

[Sid]

I know someone that loves ska as much as me. We yell pick it up to each other and no one knows what the hell is going on.

[dkm4life010]

mmbt, third wave, yes? i'm doing this thing about rude boys for my dorky school to edumacate the poor wangstas at my school. i've got the whole shabang, hells yes

another question, where did the actual term "rude boy/girl" come from?

[sketchyjoe]

Rude Boys were the name given to Jamaican gangs in the 60s. They had bloody turf wars and there was a lot of violence. Many original ska artists sang about this

eg Dandy Livingstone's Messsage To You Rudy was imploring them to stop what they were doing and think.

Later (in the 2tone era) the term became simply used to described somebody who liked ska.

[dkm4life010]

and the mighty mighty bosstones, 3rd wave?

[sketchyjoe]

Yeah. They just about started Ska-Core.

[jol33]

mmm bosstones

[dkm4life010]

excellant... u guys like www.21deadmonkeys.com ?
its a pretty funny ska comic incase you dont already know about it

[jol33]

edit that and put http:// before the url, so that musicianforums.com doesn't come up beforehand when you click on the link

[loserman_4]

At my school, id be lucky to meet anybody who likes ska, unless i introduced them to it. It seems like most of my City (Barrie Ont. Canada) hasnt even heard the word ska, and they think ur speaking in foreign tounge. theres such a limit of people who enjoy something other then Eminem, and Destinies child, that that the only people who listen to anything close to ska, listen to Metal, Its either Rap, Classic Rock, or Metal. 2 out of 3 being okay.

P.S I Only know one person who listens to Sublime,my band mate Cam.

[Excursions]

I know one guy listens to mad caddies thats all

[SantaDuJuan]

I have a questin.

What makes a Rude Boy a Rudie?

Also

What are some Rudie Bands?(This has probly been asked if so just give the link to the post with the bands)

[JohnBasedow]

that link thing is annoying

[TheNowhereman42]

I have a questin.

What makes a Rude Boy a Rudie?

Also

What are some Rudie Bands?(This has probly been asked if so just give the link to the post with the bands)

Desmond Dekker are some rudeboy bands.

Alot of older trade stuff that hit right before rocksteady is considered "rudeboy"

but Desmond Dekker was the best.

And a rude boy is automaticall a rudie.

[TheNowhereman42]

excellant... u guys like www.21deadmonkeys.com ?
its a pretty funny ska comic incase you dont already know about it

been reading that scince it came out, I even sent for the stickers. Rep+ for being the first i've heard mention it on MX.

[SantaDuJuan]

Desmond Dekker are some rudeboy bands.

Alot of older trade stuff that hit right before rocksteady is considered "rudeboy"

but Desmond Dekker was the best.

And a rude boy is automaticall a rudie.

I was asking about the Rudie culture. Like a profile or something.


Moron.

[Excursions]

Juan you said what are some rudie bands and he gave you one.

[SantaDuJuan]

Yes.

But I was just being mean.



:(

[mr.k]

Nick, ska sucks. Ska revival isnt cool you stupid ****

**** u

[superskankinactionhero]

I was asking about the Rudie culture. Like a profile or something.


Moron.
he answered everything you asked and answered it correctly.

Moron.

[roofee0]

That's from a song.

Edit: Silly noobs deleting their posts. :rolleyes:

[sketchyjoe]

Learn sarcasm/spelling you idiot.

[SlappedByTheClash]

If you sport a bowl haircut, you're just asking to get your a'ss kicked.




D'amn straight...



Mullets is where it's at. :cool:

[mr.k]

hehe

[mr.k]

D'amn straight...



Mullets is where it's at. :cool:

Mullets suck balls

[SlappedByTheClash]

Don't joke the mullet...


I know some dude that has one and he'll straight up murder your a'ss.






Bitch.

[IFlogMyMolly16]

**** u
Haha dummy

[SactoUnited]

Pompadours are where its really at. :cool:

[pedro durruti]

Jamaican Bacon

[someguy3123]

What is the best cd by Fishbone?

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

They have no good ones

[SlappedByTheClash]

Pompadours are where its really at. :cool:



Ah...


Those Mohawk/Pompadour hybrids that Psychobilly dudes have are spiffy.


I'm a-gonna git me one.


Then I'll have an even better excuse to get beat up.


Ouch...

[Brain Toad]

Bumped so more learn about ska. And no spamming!

[albert_bass]

Taking profit of this. Anyone has news about the new SLM album?

[Forest_Fire]

no. but jamie egan left the band. :upset:

[skadudejeff]

Anybody know the schedule for the Ska Is Dead Tour?

[Brain Toad]

http://www.skaisdead.com/dates.html

Those are the dates, clicking each date brings up info on the show.

[skadudejeff]

Sweet i'm definately going to the jacksonvile FL one

[SlappedByTheClash]

I like ska.


You all know this by now.


So educate me. B'astards.

[SLC_PUNK]

Wanna Know A Sick Ska Bands Are Mustard Plug & Against All Authority!

[SlappedByTheClash]

I'd file AAA under suck, not ska.


Mustard Plug are meh.

[Brain Toad]

Against All Authority are great. Mustard Plug are ok.

[SlappedByTheClash]

Eh, whatever floats yer boat, but I ain't a big fan.


Wait, Against All Authority isn't the same as Authority Zero are they?


I f'ucking hate Authority Zero.

[Brain Toad]

Eh, whatever floats yer boat, but I ain't a big fan.


Wait, Against All Authority isn't the same as Authority Zero are they?


I f'ucking hate Authority Zero.

Authority Zero is ok. But AAA is not the same, and are a lot better. A good example of Hardcore and ska I'd say.

[SactoUnited]

**** the 3rd wave. Although I like Hepcat, Slackers, and Op. Ivy

[pedro durruti]

Hey, it's ok for you not to like the third wave ska punk bands, but get that attitude out of here; you sound like the people from the Ska is Dead boards. Authority Zero are pretty bad, but they're pop-punk aren't they?

[Jessizzle]

I Like The One Song By AZ Painted Windows? I Think it is.

[superskankinactionhero]

i've never heard authority zero or against all authority. but roll on 4th march, the slackers!

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

I haven't heard too much from authority Zero and against All authority, but they both sounded pretty decent from what i heard

[SlappedByTheClash]

Recommend me un AAA song, I've never heard them.

[sketchyjoe]

excellant... u guys like www.21deadmonkeys.com ?
its a pretty funny ska comic incase you dont already know about it
Its okay. Not as good as NN2S though.

[CDR_Cool]

Recommend me un AAA song, I've never heard them.
Just An Obstruction
Wet Foot Policy
Pestilent Existence

[skankinBassist]

tonight is NJ's Ska is Dead!
i leave in 3 and a half hours!

[PunkGuitarist]

tonight is NJ's Ska is Dead!
i leave in 3 and a half hours!
same here

[Brain Toad]

Hey, it's ok for you not to like the third wave ska punk bands, but get that attitude out of here; you sound like the people from the Ska is Dead boards. Authority Zero are pretty bad, but they're pop-punk aren't they?

They've got a skaish sound, but mostly pop-punk.

[Brain Toad]

**** the 3rd wave. Although I like Hepcat, Slackers, and Op. Ivy

Don't act like a hardheaded f'uck. No one will think you are cooler for not liking 3rd wave becase we all know you (and many of us) got into ska from the 3rd wave.