Ska Education and Discussion

[maco]

I have, yes.
Bad Manners, The beat and Madness. Which bands should I give a listen also?
Or better, which albums are classic 2 tone albums?
Which Madness album did you hear? Their new one was really good.

[Ssssska]

Ok, so theres like 150 pages of posts and I don't really wana look through all of them so... Is there a guide here or somewhere in the internet that tells how ska strum? I've been in some sites and they're of no help. It just doesn't sound right.

[comptonassrobert]

Slightly mute the chord on the downstroke and then upstroke without muting the strings. Or am I misunderstanding the question?

[pedro durruti]

Yeah, it's pretty simple, so robert's explanation is all you need. Jamaicans were high as hell when they invented ska, so you know it's not that difficult of a genre guitar-wise

[Henrik]

they are a ska band:
http://media.putfile.com/bruce-lee-band---gerry-is-strong

probably the greatest lyrics ever written
Thanks, sound pretty good actually.

[Ssssska]

Slightly mute the chord on the downstroke and then upstroke without muting the strings. Or am I misunderstanding the question?

Yeah, I've done that but it doesn't sound right. I'm pretty sure tjat I'm not doing it fast enough. How fast do you have to do that to have a Streetlight Manifesto sound?

[comptonassrobert]

Ohh, you should've mentioned Streetlight Manifesto. Tomas is in no way an ordinary ska guitarist. He doesn't accentuate the upstrokes as much and he has a much warmer tone then other ska guitarists.

And speed isn't your problem because he isn't playing the same speed in every song. When you are doing the upstrokes don't hit the high E as much as you normally would, focus more on the lower strings

[Johnny Quest.]

Going to the Leeds Festival this year, fair bit of ska there, which i wasn't expecting. Reel Big Fish, Less Than Jake, Lightyear and Capdown are playing. Gonna be amazing.

[Catchthe22]

sounds fun

[ibanezman575]

Yeah, it's pretty simple, so robert's explanation is all you need. Jamaicans were high as hell when they invented ska, so you know it's not that difficult of a genre guitar-wise
ahahahahahaha

[coheneran]

Going to the Leeds Festival this year, fair bit of ska there, which i wasn't expecting. Reel Big Fish, Less Than Jake, Lightyear and Capdown are playing. Gonna be amazing.

Apart from the paying 130 quid for the weekend ticket and 3 quid a burger. or 5 quid a meal. Oh, don't forget that you can't take in your own alcohol and you're not even allowed to bring in a bottle of tap water into the stage arena because they want you to buy the water from them. Festivals are too commercialised these days.

Oh god no! Paris Hilton made a pop video! It's terrible! Horrendous! Nasty! I wonder what it's like to be able to look in two directions at once.

[Johnny Quest.]

Apart from the paying 130 quid for the weekend ticket and 3 quid a burger. or 5 quid a meal. Oh, don't forget that you can't take in your own alcohol and you're not even allowed to bring in a bottle of tap water into the stage arena because they want you to buy the water from them. Festivals are too commercialised these days.

Oh god no! Paris Hilton made a pop video! It's terrible! Horrendous! Nasty! I wonder what it's like to be able to look in two directions at once.

Yes, I know I was there last year.

[Ssssska]

Ohh, you should've mentioned Streetlight Manifesto. Tomas is in no way an ordinary ska guitarist. He doesn't accentuate the upstrokes as much and he has a much warmer tone then other ska guitarists.

And speed isn't your problem because he isn't playing the same speed in every song. When you are doing the upstrokes don't hit the high E as much as you normally would, focus more on the lower strings

Ok well now I'm just curious about Tomas' way of playing. Is there a strumming pattern or something? Or is it just really hard to put it in a tablature form? And if you can, can you tell me ASOB's strumming pattern as well? It doesn't sound like a normal ska strumming either, sounds more like Streetlight's

[comptonassrobert]

Well firstly the guitar isn't prominant at all in any Streetlight songs, actually at some points you can barely tell there is guitar playing. So pretty much his strumming isn't anything special, he just has a lot warmer tone and he doesn't accentuate the upstrokes and instead of doing ska chords he does the normal barre chords.

for example instead of:
|-3----
|-3----
|-4----
|------
|------
|------

he uses:
|-3-----
|-3-----
|-4-----
|-5-----
|-5-----
|-3-----

[Ghostfire3]

Well firstly the guitar isn't prominant at all in any Streetlight songs, actually at some points you can barely tell there is guitar playing. So pretty much his strumming isn't anything special, he just has a lot warmer tone and he doesn't accentuate the upstrokes and instead of doing ska chords he does the normal barre chords.

That's true. Streetlight's music is very horn driven.

[comptonassrobert]

Mmhmm, their horn lines and songs in general are faaaaaaaaaaar more complex than anything Catch 22 or any other ska band has done.

[FauxApathy]

I just got the Botar EP, it's the first time I've ever heard it.

I've had Everything Goes Numb for a year and Keasby Nights for a while. I was expecting something like that.

I'm actually kinda disappointed, everyone I've ever asked about them has said they were amazing, better than Streetlight...and it kinda let me down. Hopefully It'll grow on me after a few more listens.

[Henrik]

It will, trust me :thumb:

[Henrik]

Apart from the paying 130 quid for the weekend ticket and 3 quid a burger. or 5 quid a meal. Oh, don't forget that you can't take in your own alcohol and you're not even allowed to bring in a bottle of tap water into the stage arena because they want you to buy the water from them. Festivals are too commercialised these days.

Oh god no! Paris Hilton made a pop video! It's terrible! Horrendous! Nasty! I wonder what it's like to be able to look in two directions at once.
I'm going to a big festival this summer. It's a bit expensive and there will be big bands too. BUT all the profit goes to charity in countries as Cambodia and such... I love festivals, they are a lot of fun.

[the-UK-ska-scene]

Yeah man big outdoor festivals are awesome. If you're out earning money, I reckon they're a cool way to spend that money. It's just that feeling of chaos, and chilling outside with a beer watching a band you might otherwise have not taken the time to hear. Festival beer is awful, though, well Carling festival beer anyway.

[Lukeh]

Ok well now I'm just curious about Tomas' way of playing. Is there a strumming pattern or something? Or is it just really hard to put it in a tablature form? And if you can, can you tell me ASOB's strumming pattern as well? It doesn't sound like a normal ska strumming either, sounds more like Streetlight's
Well from what wikipedia used to say (and it sounded right to me) is that Tomas uses the normal style of syncopated strumming but the full barré chords are strummed in semi-quavers instead of crotchets; giving only one rest of percussive strum of the strings every 4 strums as opposed to every strum.
Hopefully that makes sense, he's basically just strumming his guitar in 16th notes and dampening the strings every 4 strums to give it that ska-ish feel.

As for Jeff Rosenstock, I'm pretty sure he just plays an insanely fast variation of the normal 3rd wave kind of strumming.

[Ghostfire3]

Anyone who likes Chris Murray, please recommend me an album of his.

[Microwave meals & ideals]

Raw is my favourite Chris Murray album, its fantastic. When I saw him play most of his set came from this album. Then again I don't think Chris Murray has made a bad album.

[sketchyjoe]

Anyone who likes Chris Murray, please recommend me an album of his.
The 4-Track Adventures of Venice Shoreline Chris

[the-UK-ska-scene]

I only own Chris Murray's "6 songs" which I found on promo for like £3 in Punker Bunker once and bought cus I'd heard of his solo stuff before. Bloody hell, it's brilliant. But I haven't bought any stuff since. Just been to see him a couple times. Punker Bunker promo stuff used to be the best, introduced me to tons of stuff, but they've had less the last couple times I've been down there :(

[Ghostfire3]

I downloaded Raw and some album he did with The Slackers. They're both pretty damn good.

[Pint of stella]

If you like The Specials I recommend the track Rat Race. Classic track. Ghost Town, Nite Klub and Little Bitch are also a few of their greats. Of which there are many.

[coheneran]

Don't forget Do The Dog and Too Young.

[Ghostfire3]

And Monkey Man and A Message to You Rudy.

Pretty much their whole self-titled album is essential.

[Catchthe22]

Those are the greats of the specials, but dont forget Gangsters(even though it's a cover of prince buster they took it under their wing).

[Ghostfire3]

A lot of 2 Tone bands did covers of first wavers like Prince Buster.

[coheneran]

Ska question:

Could somebody explain to me the different ska genres and "waves", and if you feel like it, the history behind those genres? I'm pretty clear on skapunk though.

[Iron Bug]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ska

[coheneran]

Lazy punkass kid.

[Iron Bug]

No problem. Come back to hubub queerass.

[coheneran]

I'm dying to, but my network firewall is worse than a Catholic boarding school bugged with microphones and cameras. Nothing gets in or out without permission from the nuns. Luckily, my firewall isn't as religious as nuns when it comes to pron.

[Ghostfire3]

Ska question:

Could somebody explain to me the different ska genres and "waves", and if you feel like it, the history behind those genres? I'm pretty clear on skapunk though.

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71269

Found this on the first page of the thread. Checking the first page is always a good idea. However these definitions are pretty brief.

[coheneran]

Awesome, thanks man. Wow, I didn't know ska predecesses reggae, I thought it was the other way around.

[Iron Bug]

Everyone does.

[ibanezman575]

those noobs...

[coheneran]

I just finished Multiplex Comics, now I have no excuse to not go to sleep.:(

Goodnight.

[Iron Bug]

I love the Slackers.

[Catchthe22]

And they love you.

[Iron Bug]

No wai!

[Ghostfire3]

I love the Slackers.

Me too. :) One of my favorite Ska bands.

[Iron Bug]

I get to go see the Toasters.

[asdf]

I just got back from a very good Ska show. Even though I got beer thrown in my face, and an aquaintance of mine broke his ankle, it was good.

[Henrik]

What did you see? Just a local band?

[Catchthe22]

Here's an idea: Why don't we each give a link of our favorite local ska bands. Local can mean a couple hours away if you need some more options.

My town didn't have a single ska band up until earlier this year. We had a reggae dub that did a couple Special covers and that was about it. So instead of showing the band I was in, I'll show 5 Finger discount. http://www.myspace.com/5fingerdiscountsucks

[Jessizzle]

http://www.myspace.com/thejohnstones i will win.

[asdf]

What did you see? Just a local band?
Oh, yeah, probably should've mentioned that. Whole Wheat Bread, Streetlight Manifesto, and Reel Big Fish.

[Catchthe22]

You win against me...easily...they are good...like Operation Ivy meets Big D and the Kids Table at a party with a keg full of Labatt's Blue.

[coheneran]

What's Labatt's Blue, it sounds cool? You know it ain't proper ska if there ain't no Red Stripe involved.:p

[Culture Shock]

What's Labatt's Blue, it sounds cool? You know it ain't proper ska if there ain't no Red Stripe involved.:p

Eran, Labatt's Blue is **** compared to Red Stripe. Unfortunately, the Red Stripe we get is brewed in America. Do you have breweries in the UK as well?

[coheneran]

I have no idea, probably though. Stella and Carlsberg are also brewed here. All I know is that the best bottled beer you can get here is Hoegaarden and it's delicious.

Gonna see King Blues today, and then maybe the Buzzcocks. It means moving from one free festival to another though.

[Catchthe22]

Ive heard good things about Hoegaarden. When I go to Europe in a few weeks it is on my to do list. Oh and Labatt's is Canadian beer(it is okay beer) and the band that PaintJessGreen mentioned was Canadian.

[Iron Bug]

You can just call her Jess (or skankywhore).

Lightyear rules.

[Jessizzle]

Alexander Keiths, Nova Soctias finest. Canadian beer>yours.

[skavid]

Corona > every other beer ever.

[Catchthe22]

Ive only heard bad things about Corona. Most people say it tastes like piss water.

[lpsoxfan88]

Ive only heard bad things about Corona. Most people say it tastes like piss water.
Wait, so it tastes like beer?:confused:

[Kithkin]

Corona is ok. Hoegarden is better. I like Spaten Dunkel Hefeweisen the best.

Sonic Boom Six's new album is out and it's good.

[coheneran]

I'm gonna see Sonic Boom Six tommorow, are they any good?

[smokersdieyounger]

Anyone know of any German Ska bands, or any Ska events in Berlin soon?

[Catchthe22]

^^^Im wanting to know that too. Im going on a 3 week vacation to Europe later this month.

[Jessizzle]

This reaaaaal awesome maltese ska band is touring europe. too bad i forget the name, and where they are playing.

[POINTLESS5448]

hey jess are there any good bands playing in ottawa between now and the 23rd?

[BCT]

211>that life its self
jodan rancid is playing the 22 0r 23 but in the 95fo i think i might go
why is all beer in europe weak like 5% and under plus i cant find anything super cheap except wine i miss cheap *** american beer with super high pionts aka 211

[sketchyjoe]

211>that life its self
jodan rancid is playing the 22 0r 23 but in the 95fo i think i might go
why is all beer in europe weak like 5% and under plus i cant find anything super cheap except wine i miss cheap *** american beer with super high pionts aka 211
Just about every Off Licence in the UK does cheap, strong, crappy lager and cider. Tennents Super, Special Brew and White Lightning are all cheap and will get you very drunk. Basically, anything that you see tramps drinking is what you want.

[coheneran]

Just about every Off Licence in the UK does cheap, strong, crappy lager and cider. Tennents Super, Special Brew and White Lightning are all cheap and will get you very drunk. Basically, anything that you see tramps drinking is what you want.

Don't do whitey light, it ****s your head in. there's a little more than alcohol in there, supposedly.

[POINTLESS5448]

isnt white lightning just moonshine? that **** ****s you up real good mang

[KillTheEmo101]

Im gunna sound quite lazy after people read this comment, but anyone know any ska groups comin around Jersey anytime soon?

And let me add this, its all about the colt 45.

[Liebensaft]

Why don't you just go to the websites of ska bands you enjoy and look at their tour dates?

[Ghostfire3]

Because he said he was lazy, which he is. He probably doesn't even know or listen to any Ska bands.

[PECOAE]

Anyone like 7 Seconds of Love?

They're from the UK and they're only on the net with free downloads.

THEY ROCK.

Aquabats are pretty cool, I like them - don't know if they're ska though.

[sketchyjoe]

isnt white lightning just moonshine? that **** ****s you up real good mang
No, it's just cheap and full of chemicals.

[Ghostfire3]

Aquabats are pretty cool, I like them - don't know if they're ska though.

They used to be. Not really anymore.

[FauxApathy]

The Fury of was a great ska album. Charge wasn't ska at all, but still a catchy listenable Pop-punk album.

[Catchthe22]

I dont know if it is fair to call them pop punk. That puts them in names like good charlotte and simple plan. They are really like a new wave band of today.

[Liebensaft]

Regardless, the Aquabats are awesome.

[Ghostfire3]

Meh, they're nothing special. Stupid and silly lyrics with pretty boring music.

[AIRIC]

the Aquabats are bad.

[Henrik]

Charge is decent... The song Fashion Zombies rules.
Their old stuff is good, they should return to the ska sound again.

[FauxApathy]

I dont know if it is fair to call them pop punk. That puts them in names like good charlotte and simple plan. They are really like a new wave band of today.


Of course it's not fair.
The Descendents and Nofx are pop-punk. Do they sound like Good Charlotte and Simple Plan?

Hell even bands like the Offspring should be pissed that they're lumped in with those two. The Offspring Are Definately Pop-punk, but there's a difference: They're actually good at playing their genre.

The Aquabats music is simple, but it's just too fun to not like it.

[wartree]

Ska-punk its just my favourite style of music, my favourite bands of punk-ska are
less than jake
the suicide machines
goldfinger
nofx
reel big fish
buck'o'nine
rancid

anyone knows know or like less than jake, for me are just the best band out there, since 1992(date that ltj was created)

[Henrik]

Once decent... I really don't like their most recent stuff.

[Ghostfire3]

Ska-punk its just my favourite style of music, my favourite bands of punk-ska are
less than jake
the suicide machines
goldfinger
nofx
reel big fish
buck'o'nine
rancid

anyone knows know or like less than jake, for me are just the best band out there, since 1992(date that ltj was created)

Probably the worst list of "Ska" bands I've ever seen.

[POINTLESS5448]

what ever happened to the specials? are they all dead or broken up or what?

[ibanezman575]

ska is my least favorite genre of "punk"ish music tbh

[FauxApathy]

Probably the worst list of "Ska" bands I've ever seen.

I agree. Many of those bands either aren't ska anymore, or never were ska, and had a few ska songs.

The First Suicide Machines album -Destruction By Definition, is amazing though.

[wartree]

Probably the worst list of "Ska" bands I've ever seen.

the worst but best for me...
ya its true, but less than jake are in my favourite bands list, others just some musics... say there another ska-punk bands...

[Kithkin]

Of course it's not fair.
The Descendents and Nofx are pop-punk. Do they sound like Good Charlotte and Simple Plan?



Do Streetlight Manifesto and Operation Ivy sound anything alike? Not to mention The Descendents and Nofx sound pretty dissimilar most of the time.

[Death_or_Glory]

The First Suicide Machines album -Destruction By Definition, is amazing though.
123

[FauxApathy]

Do Streetlight Manifesto and Operation Ivy sound anything alike? Not to mention The Descendents and Nofx sound pretty dissimilar most of the time.


Of course they don't. And I know The Descendents and Nofx sound unalike.

I don't understand. Are you trying to agree with me, or disagree?

I was responding to Catchthe22, when he said it wasn't fair to say the last Aquabats album was Pop-punk, because it sounds nothing like Good Charlotte, or other GC equiviants. My point was that Bands like The Descendents and Nofx, are both pop-punk, but both sound miles away from what Good Charlotte equivilants sound like, even though they're in the same genre.

So I guess what I was trying to say was that genres have diviersity. Of course The Descendents aren't going to sound like Fall Out Boy any time soon. But they're still both pop-punk.

[Catchthe22]

Its true. I didnt think it all the way through. Because there can be good pop punk. I like poppy catchy stuff and I like punk. Just not when they are fused together by certain bands. But some bands do it in a way i enjoy. But on a side note Aquabats are like a Rock/poppunk/newwave band imo.

[Anxious]

I hate your username.

[blacklungfever]

I dont know if it is fair to call them pop punk. That puts them in names like good charlotte and simple plan. They are really like a new wave band of today.

I'm not sure if it's fair to call them anything. They have ska songs, pop-punkish songs, techno songs, synth-pop songs, and just about everything in between. The Aquabats are the Aquabats. I don't think anything else really fits completely.

And Sequence Erase is the best song ever.

[BlastFunk03]

the independents are one of the most original ska bands to come around in a long time.

also, the delegates are very good, but not many have heard of them.

[Jessizzle]

the independents are one of the most original ska bands to come around in a long time.

also, the delegates are very good, but not many have heard of them.
I saw the independents about a month ago. with the antics. amazing live show.
and iv also seen the delegates. **** i am so awesome.

[RCVA]

I read the first post in here and i would just like to say well done Nick.

[Johnny Quest.]

Household Name Records presents its first ever "SKA IS DEAD" UK TOUR featuring THE PLANET SMASHERS + MUSTARD PLUG and BOMB THE MUSIC INDUSTRY plus UK guests...from 30th November to 10th December 2006. Dates to follow very soon...

Credit: Punktastic.com

So giddy right about now.

[Ghostfire3]

Yikes, I wouldn't go. The best band out of those is The Planet Smashers.

[POINTLESS5448]

im not a big fan of mustard plug but id want to see bomb the music industy. ive seen the planet smashers and they put on a good show. it was even better when they came out and played along with the toasters.

[the-UK-ska-scene]

Can't wait for Ska Is Dead but I'm a little confused as I was told a couple months ago that Big D would be on that tour...But now they're not? Hmmm.

Lots of amazing shows coming up. Yay.

[Rise Me Up]

The only one worth seeing is Planet Smashers. They are incredible live.

[Ghostfire3]

The only one worth seeing is Planet Smashers. They are incredible live.

123. They're a lot of fun live.

[Jessizzle]

excuse me.
BTMI are like.... AWDFHB RYJGHbkn in a bottle.
pure awesomeness and one of my favourite bands ever.

[Massriot]

The only one worth seeing is Planet Smashers. They are incredible live.

they are amazing, I only wish I could see them live... :(

[Jessizzle]

they play toronto like once a month++...
I still havnt seen them

[AIRIC]

They are fun live but I don't really like ska so during their set I was kinda just standing in the back all high.

[pedro durruti]

There are a few really good ska shows coming up soon

[MattuxXx]

im sure people are getting tired of my not completely being in line with your thoughts. also theres not much of a ska scene here. but heres my "question". from the skanking description, it seems a lot like some forms of two stepping in the hXc scene. are they tied? or the same thing? also a vid of skanking would help so i see visually what it is.

[blacklungfever]

im sure people are getting tired of my not completely being in line with your thoughts. also theres not much of a ska scene here. but heres my "question". from the skanking description, it seems a lot like some forms of two stepping in the hXc scene. are they tied? or the same thing? also a vid of skanking would help so i see visually what it is.

actually two-stepping does look a lot like skanking. Only more extreme.

REAL two stepping is a country music dance though.


In other news...

A band from my area, The Expos, is going on a North American tour with the One Night Band. Go see them when they come to your town. It'll be worth it.

http://www.myspace.com/thedonutska they are WAY better than they are in the live recording on there.

[ThePinkPanther]

so the Highschool Football Heroes disbanded. Personally i liked them.

They were supposed to be at a show i was at last night but then the first band told us they ditched. The show was awesome anyways.


oh and blacklungfever, i'll probably see the Expos when they came through here.

[Catchthe22]

Give you the easy answer...skanking is what you make it. Usually invovles legs kicking or running in place. Arms swinging close to body or extending out. Good basic example http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMBmzo34vew One keeps the legs bent and the other is mixing it up with extending the leg and keeping one bent while skanking. Another example http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLPvbvnwETc this time the guy has a faster different style from the normal. Shorter leg movements but he is making a lot of distance on the floor. Seems like somethign better for a fast ska song or ska punk song. If you are at least dancing yoru *** off at a ska show you will get respect. skanking or not skanking.

And for you guys that are bored out of your asses(dont recommend if you arnt)... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMBmzo34vew

[Liebensaft]

so the Highschool Football Heroes disbanded.
That sucks. I had some of their stuff and it was really good. Catchy.

[Jessizzle]

Yesss go see the Expos ( cough donuts cough)
and.. I <3 one night band.
I wish they didnt live in montreal.

[BlastFunk03]

Big D and the Kids Table's singer sounds like a sopping wet vulva. Some of their songs are pretty good though, and another vocalist would make em sound awesome.

[Catchthe22]

No way. I love the vocals of Big D. He completes the sound. Not a voice you would hear on a choir. It is actually a normal voice with no extra toppings except passion. Not "poppy" like Panic! At the Disco's or annoying like choking victim.

[FauxApathy]

Big D's singer simply isn't good at singing.

And I love it. They're my favorite band at the moment. Only problem with them is it's hard to find their albums, you pretty much have to order them off of the internet.

[Ghostfire3]

Ha ha, I saw Big D in this little restaurant in Florida before their show with Westbound Train and Voodoo Glowskulls. Their singer was so unbelievably high.

[Kithkin]

Big D used to have a second vocalist and it did sound a lot better. His voice is perfect for songs like apology and lax and little bitch.

[Henrik]

I love his voice.. Different in a good way.

[POINTLESS5448]

Ha ha, I saw Big D in this little restaurant in Florida before their show with Westbound Train and Voodoo Glowskulls. Their singer was so unbelievably high.
respectable street?
i like how you called it a little resturaunt. that place blows.
they put on a good show though.

[Ghostfire3]

respectable street?
i like how you called it a little resturaunt. that place blows.
they put on a good show though.

Respectable Street? What the hell are you talking about? I meant I saw them eating in this little restaurant before their show. The restaurant was next to the venue they were playing later that night. It was in Jacksonville.

[Flagjacket]

SKA CAN'T BRING THE PARTY LIKE DJ Flaggy DOES

[Ghostfire3]

So for sociology we had to pick a subculture or counterculture to do a project on and I picked Rude Boys. :D

[asdf]

So for sociology we had to pick a subculture or counterculture to do a project on and I picked Rude Boys. :D
That's a good one to do. Not just because of the relation to ska, but because it's incredibly interesting. I hope I get to do something like that in sociology next semester.

[Leatherlord]

So for sociology we had to pick a subculture or counterculture to do a project on and I picked Rude Boys. :D

Me and a buddy are doing Skin Heads for the exact same project in sociology . . . guess that's a far relation to ska. Don't skinheads love the ska? But dude, that class is so awesome, the teacher just talks for a long time, passes out homework, I do a half *** job on it and he just asks us if we all got 100% on it :P It makes a good nap class, too bad I struggle on the tests.

[Ghostfire3]

Me and a buddy are doing Skin Heads for the exact same project in sociology . . . guess that's a far relation to ska. Don't skinheads love the ska? But dude, that class is so awesome, the teacher just talks for a long time, passes out homework, I do a half *** job on it and he just asks us if we all got 100% on it :P It makes a good nap class, too bad I struggle on the tests.

Yes, skinheads traditionally like ska. I was considering picking skinheads just to set the record straight about them when we present our projects but this other girl picked it before me. People would be all like :eek: "skinheads aren't anti-racist, what r u talking about??!11!1?"

[FauxApathy]

So I went to homecoming yesterday.

And I skanked to all of the poppy rock songs they played. Bwahah.

[Jersey's Best Dancer]

So apparently Mad Caddies have a new album coming out in 07. Who else is excited?!

[Catchthe22]

I am kind of excited.

[Henrik]

If they still have their awesome horn section, I am!

I saw them live this summer, good show.

[POINTLESS5448]

i was going to go see them on saturday with some chick but i didnt. i should have.

[Jessizzle]

I liked how mad caddies recorded their show in toronto.

tunes in the key of eh!

[Jessizzle]

So, the aquabats are taking a "break" that just might last forever.

[AIRIC]

Thank GOD!

[Catchthe22]

NOOOOO!! NOOOOOO! AHHHHHH! Well that stinks.

[DaveToopes]

I hope they never touch instruments again.

[AIRIC]

Same. They're reallllllllllly realllyyyyyyyyyy bad.

[DaveToopes]

I think they should be arrested for what they have done to so many ears.

[Jessizzle]

i think i may of heard the wind.

[AIRIC]

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA good one jess you bitch.

[DaveToopes]

Jess the the Aquabats suck get it through your skull.

[Jessizzle]

oh it sure is windy today.

[Catchthe22]

Hahaha.

I like the Aquabats. Some stuff is a bit too childish but overall they are fun band to listen to.

[Henrik]

Their ska stuff is awesome IMO.
Charge was decent.

[Catchthe22]

I liked charge quite a lot. Not as risky as their older stuff but for me i like the electronica new wave pop punk sound(not a "makes you want to vomit pop punk, just upbeat punk sound"). And it was more solid throughout.

[DaveToopes]

i vomited.

[_Mote_]

I thought it was a great album, and I also think DaveToopes is an elitist little bitch... I keed I keed. I really like the 'bats, and I hope they record maybe an album with the same ideas as Charge, but bring the horns back. It was a refreshing album for them, but I want them to go back and not complelely head off in a different direction.

[comptonassrobert]

They put on one hell of a show.

[_Mote_]

I really want to see them, and get one of the helmets :p

[AIRIC]

They're show was okay. It was really funny with the costumes and the screen behind them with the commercials and stuff. It would have been much better if I enjoyed their music and the rest of the show wasn't tainted by the Epoxies and the Phenomenauts.

[DaveToopes]

I thought it was a great album, and I also think DaveToopes is an elitist little bitch... I keed I keed. I really like the 'bats, and I hope they record maybe an album with the same ideas as Charge, but bring the horns back. It was a refreshing album for them, but I want them to go back and not complelely head off in a different direction.

Hey now it's all in good fun.

[Ghostfire3]

They're show was okay. It was really funny with the costumes and the screen behind them with the commercials and stuff. It would have been much better if I enjoyed their music and the rest of the show wasn't tainted by the Epoxies and the Phenomenauts.

Oh yikes! What in the world were you doing at that show!? :confused:

[AIRIC]

All my friends were going and stuff.

[Ghostfire3]

Ah, I see, peer pressure. Everyone was doin it, right?

[AIRIC]

Exaclty.

[Henrik]

Fashion Zombies and Awesome Forces are good songs.

[DaveToopes]

Guys can we just talk about ska and not children's music?

[The Ska Man]

Streetlight+RBF in Gainesville in like..ten days..I just found out..I'm sure its sold out by now, though..

[DaveToopes]

Don't give up on your dreams, Punkdrummer...

P.S. if you go, don't stay for RBF.

[Jessizzle]

ps: stay for RBF a real fun set EVEN if you're not really into them. its a good time.

[The Ska Man]

Nah, I dig RBF. Not too much of the new stuff, though.

[Jessizzle]

they play a bunch of new stuff.
and then everyone yells " play some old stuff"

[Kithkin]

RBF's new stuff is much better than their not so new stuff and only slightly sub-par to their old stuff. If they only play stuff off the live album and the new album, that'll be fine.

[Catchthe22]

The stuff Ive heard off their live album is solid.

[Kithkin]

Listen to me

http://www.sendspace.com/file/db5ows

[Catchthe22]

Happy Skanksgiving

[Jessizzle]

What The Hell The Know How Broke Up Yesterday.

[Kithkin]

Well, they're still playing a few more shows.

[Jessizzle]

yeah in flordia, i dont live in flordia..
hey can anyone say ROAD TRIP! haha... oh how i wish.

[Kithkin]

They really aren't one of my favorite bands.

[Jessizzle]

Yeah, theres nothing stand out amazing about them, but i mean in a massive sea of average ska bands that all sound the same, theres no rhyme or reason to how you pick your favourite ones. they just are, and i love it.

[Henrik]

What 2 tone album should I get next?

[DaveToopes]

That all depends on what you already have.

[The Ska Man]

I've been meaning to ask something like that..I got a fair amount of thrid wave stuff, but i have noooo two-tone or first wave, for that matter..Recommend me some, please..

[DaveToopes]

Do you have the Specials? I should hope you do.

Also good: Hepcat and Madness

[Liebensaft]

What 2 tone album should I get next?

The Specials. Self-titled album.

[Jessizzle]

for people who add
aim: Jessizzle63

you will get enuff ska.

[Henrik]

The Specials. Self-titled album.
Yeah okay, I do got that one :smoke:

What's a good madness album?

[Ghostfire3]

I've been meaning to ask something like that..I got a fair amount of thrid wave stuff, but i have noooo two-tone or first wave, for that matter..Recommend me some, please..

First Wave: Desmond Dekker, Prince Buster, Toots & The Maytals

Two-Tone: The Specials, Madness, The Selecter, The English Beat

[Kithkin]

I've been meaning to ask something like that..I got a fair amount of thrid wave stuff, but i have noooo two-tone or first wave, for that matter..Recommend me some, please..

You'll want the Toasters and Mark Fogo's Skasters and Westbound Train the Slackers. They're great for bridging the gap between the 3rd wave and the first two waves.

If you like the Toasters and Mark, you can move into the Specials and Madness and the English Beat and the Selecter and if you like the Slackers and Westbound Train, you can move into The Skatalites and Desmond Dekker and Hepcat and Toots and the Maytals and Ernest Ranglin.

[oslOversizeLoad]

just went to the streetlight manifesto and RBF show the otherday. i really dont listen to RBF that much but they were a fun band to see live. SM and westbound train were both amazing, and that suburban legends band was probably the sorriest excuse for a band ive ever seen.

i started listening to desmond dekker too. every song ive heard so far has been great. is there any record in particular that i should check out of his?

[wartree]

What 2 tone album should I get next?

Losing Streak, from less than jake...
or perphaps Hello Rockview

[Kithkin]

Losing Streak, from less than jake...
or perphaps Hello Rockview

Neither of which are 2-tone.

and that suburban legends band was probably the sorriest excuse for a band ive ever seen.

I will say that they aren't nearly as impressive without 2 of their horns. When I first saw them, the singer and 4 horn players were all choreographed and they liked to get on each others backs and there were a lot more horn tricks. But their music is still just as impressive. They blew Reel Big Fish away the first time I saw them

This time Streetlight blew RBF away. How do you come on stage after Here's To Life? You can't beat that.

[POINTLESS5448]

yeah in flordia, i dont live in flordia..
hey can anyone say ROAD TRIP! haha... oh how i wish.
i live in florida :) do you have any dates for the shows?

[DaveToopes]

I put on some Suburban Legends today. Rump Shaker is such a fun album.

[Catchthe22]

This time Streetlight blew RBF away. How do you come on stage after Here's To Life? You can't beat that.

Was this show the one at Mr. Smalls? I was looking through youtube and they have Streetlight's Here's to Life, RBF's Trendy and Beer from that show dated 11/24. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vkkp-EieT9g link for Trendy.

[Kithkin]

Hey, I was at that show...

I was on the other side though. It's funny how clear SM's trombone and alto sax come through from where that guy was standing. You could barely here them where I was. Also, he cut off before the drum solo and ending.

[Henrik]

Wow, Here's to life sounds amazing.

[oslOversizeLoad]

Was this show the one at Mr. Smalls? I was looking through youtube and they have Streetlight's Here's to Life, RBF's Trendy and Beer from that show dated 11/24. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vkkp-EieT9g link for Trendy.

right on! i was at this show. so awesome

[Kithkin]

We're obviously the best ones here.

Anyway, Monkey Jacket is looking for a bassist/keyboarder/guitarist/back-up vocals/general musician. Now I want to move to Michigan.

Also, I've only listened to the first 3 tracks of Fishbone's new record, Still Stuck In Your Throat, and I'm blown away. It would be a great album for people who've never heard them before...

hint


hint

[Henrik]

I just recently got into Bom The Music Industry! when someone told me that all their stuff was free to download on their site.
Any other fans?

[Jessizzle]

One of my favourite bands.
I am trying to book them in Canada at the moment.

[Kithkin]

BTMI are somewhat large on this board thanks to a few members constant pimping.

[DaveToopes]

Unfortunately, yes they are.

[FauxApathy]

At every Streetlight show I've been to, it seems like the stage is set up weird.

The entire band is crowed into one little section, and then Thomas is stranded - all alone on the other side of the stage. It bothers me for some reason.

[Henrik]

What's the best Madness album?
And the best Selecter album too?

[Jessizzle]

At every Streetlight show I've been to, it seems like the stage is set up weird.

The entire band is crowed into one little section, and then Thomas is stranded - all alone on the other side of the stage. It bothers me for some reason.

thats because thomas thinks hes the king of the world. duh..

and yes BTMI are superasklfngdijhjioyh. man i understand how you might not like them. but they're just everything i love in a band plus more. i really hope i can book them.

[The Ska Man]

I was listening to Failing, Flailing, and then I heard A Better Place,A Better Time, and parts of the songs are nearly identical, check it out kiddos. Both by SM

[Kithkin]

Failing, Flailing is probably the weakest song on the album. It has my favorite lyrics: "So you say your life's a bore, and I can't quite disagree/when you judge your life by the pieces of ****/that inhabit your tv/and they walk so tall and they talk so proud and every other word is a lie I've found and anyone who is anyone is waste of time/waste of ti-iiiii-imeeeeeeeeee."

The song's music is undeveloped compared to the rest of the album.


But, I think A Better Place, A Better Time may incorperate parts of other songs (as it is the last song on the album). I haven't noticed it (aside from the fact that all Catch22/Streetlight songs sound similar) but I wouldn't put it past the lovable, arrogant son of a bitch.

[Flagjacket]

A Better Place A Better Time is the fifth song on the album.

[Jessizzle]

THE AGGROLITES HAVE HAD TO CANCEL THERE TORONTO SHOW TOMMOROW AS THEY GOT STUCK IN A SNOWSTORM IN OKLAHOMA.


pfffffffffffttttttttttt.

[Kithkin]

A Better Place A Better Time is the fifth song on the album.

Oops:(

Failing Flailing does sound a bit like the Big Sleed.

But... FF and A Better Place don't sound much alike.

[Ghostfire3]

THE AGGROLITES HAVE HAD TO CANCEL THERE TORONTO SHOW TOMMOROW AS THEY GOT STUCK IN A SNOWSTORM IN OKLAHOMA.


pfffffffffffttttttttttt.

That sucks. The Aggrolites are badass.

[comptonassrobert]

We don't need no country-man fiddle, we need a real cool soundddd

The Aggrolites commented my band and said "The Belleview Mob have the boss sound to wreck the town." :cool:

[hendrixonpunk]

The song's music is undeveloped compared to the rest of the album.

I agree. It doesn't have all those elaborate parts and melodies that most of their other songs do, but it still manages to be over five minutes long. It's still quite catchy though.

[wartree]

http://entertainment-news-network-archive.blogspot.com/2006/07/interview-jr-of-less-than-jake.html

i made a yopic about this, it was locked, if you wanna read, read

[Henrik]

Sorry I don't mean to be mean, but your topic doesn't make any sense at all.



The song's music is undeveloped compared to the rest of the album.


That song has the most awesome ending... I can really listen to that part all the time and still enjoy it.

[Catchthe22]

http://www.skasummit.com/dl_wallpaper.php

^^^cool ska wallpapers, Buddy Icons and other stuff you might find useful.


On another note, why didnt anyone tell me to get some first wave stuff? Actually I think my music taste has just broaden a bit since lasttime I gave it a try. Im lovin Prince Buster and some Alton Ellis(he isnt really first wave as much as Dub rocksteady)

[Kithkin]

Where do you guys find ska information. Do you know of any blogs or websites that have good info? Even if it's just local or regional info?

[Jessizzle]

http://www.4thwave.ca/

[FauxApathy]

www.21deadmonkeys.com is a ska-based webcomic... It updates sporadically and it sometimes unfunny, but it has got me listening to many good bands and informed me of shows many a time.

I also found a ska message board that is actually frequented... http://www.turnuptheska.com/mb/
The people on it are somewhat of dicks in my opinion, but at least it's busy I suppose.

[Henrik]

I use this site to get into bands :D

[The Ska Man]

^ Word. MX is my ska-helper-person-thing.

[Jessizzle]

i was born with the knowledge of ska....

[Catchthe22]

I take baths and throw some ska bubble solution in them.

[AIRIC]

I don't listen to ska because it sucks!

[DaveToopes]

Stick that in your pipe and smoke it, Jess!

[Flagjacket]

Word!

[Jessizzle]

my pipe was stolen by the cops dude.

[Jessizzle]

so uh.. bump before this thread falls off the face of mx.... kinda like ska..
oh wait.

[Flagjacket]

Haha Jess I was just talking about how this thread was on the last page.

[Kithkin]

Ska threads only get posted in in waves.

[Catchthe22]

There isn't much to talk about ska these days. News is a little dry at the moment.

[FauxApathy]

Big D has a split EP coming out this month.

and a full length coming out in March.

Sure, they're pretty much Pop-punk with Horns now, but they're the best band in that category IMO.

[Flagjacket]

Pop-punk with Horns

Six months ago I heard that exact phrase used to describe Big D.

[AIRIC]

That's because that's what they play.

[DaveToopes]

They have always been Pop-punk with horns!!

(and poopty voice.)

[AIRIC]

They're fun I'm seeing them in April with Anti-Flag.

[asdf]

When I saw big D, I didn't much care for them.

I had fun when I saw Anti-Flag, though, but I don't like them all that much. I was there to see against me! anyway.

[Twin Human Highway Flares]

When I saw them at Warped a few years ago, the crowd was skanking in a really slow circle and were barely even moving. It was annoying as hell.

[Flagjacket]

"are we doing this right?"

[Kithkin]

That's because that's what they play.

No, that's what the River City Rebels play. Big D play skapunk.

[lynch_me]

The onion gave BOTAR one of the "worst band names of the past year"

Using the word “bandits,” minus 5 points. “Revolution,” another five. “Acoustic,” minus 15. Using them together, minus 1,000 points.

[Twin Human Highway Flares]

I love BOTAR's name. Granted, it's kind of annoying to have to write out the whole thing or have it come up in iTunes or something, but that's easily remedied.

[Ghostfire3]

No, that's what the River City Rebels play. Big D play skapunk.

No, the River City Rebels play rock n' roll with horns and a little punk influence.

Big D plays ska-punk that sometimes may be a little poppy. They're pretty cool live.

Before I saw them live at the show, I saw them in this little restaraunt joint me and my friends were eating at and their singer was soooo high. His eyes were completely cashed and he was just sitting there staring at a wall.

[Catchthe22]

Big D may have one or two songs that may be poppy even though I cant even think of one. Assuming ska pop punk is kind of like Reel Big Fish and LTJ(before the last album). 95% of everything Big D does is ska punk or just plain ska.

Anyways i get to see RBF next month. Last time i saw them it was 5 years ago. Exciting.

[Henrik]

Big D don't really use offbeats that often... Who is on the other half of the split ep?
Ohh and it better be better than that last rare dub ep they made. I rushed out and bought it but, even though I respect them for trying something new, I was really disappointed!

[Liebensaft]

Here's an idea - let's just accept that Big D and the Kids Table is a musical group with definite ska and punk influences and stop arguing about what nice little subgroup they fall in.

Genre arguments are ridiculous.

[Flagjacket]

No, the River City Rebels play rock n' roll with horns and a little punk influence.

Big D plays ska-punk that sometimes may be a little poppy. They're pretty cool live.

Before I saw them live at the show, I saw them in this little restaraunt joint me and my friends were eating at and their singer was soooo high. His eyes were completely cashed and he was just sitting there staring at a wall.

^^^ Has never heard the first three albums.

[DaveToopes]

Seriously like every Big D song is poppy.

[Flagjacket]

I mean RCR but that applies to Big D too.

[Henrik]

Anybody know some good free ska?

[AIRIC]

Old RCR is ****ing awesome.

[DaveToopes]

Anybody know some good free ska?

http://oioioi.ru/mp3/skinhead/moonstomp.html

[Henrik]

WOW! I don't really know what that site is, but damn and entire Desmond Dekker cd!!!
Thanks a lot!

[Jessizzle]

slsk.org

lol