Band Profile - AFI

[El_Shiznit]

Well, I have been wanting to do this for a while, and what better way to celebrate 1,000 posts by me, than to do a band profile on my favorite band? But I am following the rules dammit, so go re-read the rules because I don't want 1,000 "Read the rules!". And one more thing. Remember that no one cares if you think AFI sucks because I can name regulars on here that will disagree with you. Punk forum is for people who enjoy punk and if a decent amount of punk listeners enjoy AFI, then it is in fact in the correct place. Now that I have that out of the way.

A Fire Inside


Current Members
Vocals: Davey Havok
Bass: Hunter Burgan
Guitar: Jade Puget
Drums: Adam Carson
*All members do backup vocals

Past members
Guitar: Mark
Bass: Geoff Kresge


Labels
Key Lime Pie (1993-1994)
Wingnut (1994-1995)
Wedge (1995-1996)
Nitro (1996-2001)
Dreamworks (2002-2004)
*Time periods are rough
**In 1998, A Fire Inside EP was released on Adeline Records.


AFI started out in the early 1990's when Davey, Adam, and Mark picked up a short temporary bassist, named Vic, to exclusively play old Misfits covers in their garage of Ukiah, California. That didn't last very long and Vic left and was soon replaced by Geoff Kresge. After the change, AFI started to produce their own material. The Misfits influence of their original material is often misunderstood. Many people today pass the early AFI off as Misfits wannabes. But compare the Misfits to AFI in this stage and you have to be mentally ill to not see a difference. AFI at this point were a hardcore band more along the lines of Minor Threat than the Misfits.

Their own material finally resulted in their first three song release in 1993 on Key Lime Pie Records: "Dork EP". The songs "Self Pity" and "NyQuil" saw a re-release on their first album, but the song "Red Hat" remained exclusive to the EP. (Check it out though. It's got a really catchy bass line). AFI released three more EP's in the time period of 1993-1994 (Behind The Times, Heckle, and Eddie Picnic's All Wet) before their monumental year in 1995.

August 1, 1995 saw the original release of AFI's first full-lenth album, Answer That And Stay Fashionable (ATASF). The album originally featured 16 tracks when released exclusively on vinyl courtesy of Wingnut Records. The album, at the time, was barely recognized far outside the area AFI was known in. However, it did establish them a firm fanbase which was important not too long after. The band released one more EP in 1995 on Wedge Records before calling it quits. The band broke up so that select members could attend college. So that was that .............. or was it?

During breaks from school, AFI members got back together just to play some songs just for old times sake. But you know that wouldn't have stayed that way. They ended up writing original material in that short time they had together. So college plans = dead. They all quit what they were doing to concentrate on their music. The locals that followed AFI and were there for them since ATASF and before loved seeing the band back together again. The fanbase soon spread pretty rapidly by word of mouth and Nitro Records took notice. They agreed to put out an AFI full-length which became known as Very Proud Of Ya. The album featured two songs that were previously released on ATASF. The album sold remarkably well for the band's current status. However, Geoff Kresge quit the band soon after it's release to pursue other musical interests including Tiger Army.

In the first half of 1997, Nitro records decided that maybe re-releasing ATASF would be wise, and the band didn't mind. especially since they needed more time to look for a new bass player. So their first album was re-released and was now available on CD format. AFI headed towards a more heavy type of hardcore in their third album Shut Your Mouth And Open Your Eyes (SYMAOYE). For this record, AFI's good friends, The Force, lent their bassist, Hunter, to record the album with them. This was only supposed to be temporary. The success Hunter saw in this record was nothing he had seen before. The album was highly praised in the hardcore genre. SYMAOYE is a unique record for AFI in that the abrasive hardcore style played on it was exclusive to that album only. Hunter decided to stay in AFI after it's release. In 1998, they released a turning point in their self-titled EP, A Fire Inside EP, which was released on Adeline Records. This EP contained two original songs as well as a Misfits cover (Demonomania) and a Cure cover (The Hanging Garden). The Misfits cover and the two original songs played more the style of SYMAOYE, but the Cure cover was a big step ahead for the band. It's break from power chords and standard drum beats showed a whole new side of the band. That song I consider their first slow song. While not technically slow, it's the first real emotional lyrics you actually feel by Davey which he is known for so well today. This was a new direction for the band.

However, Mark left not long after the release of that E.P. The band's friend Jade Puget sang backup for all previous AFI albums and also played guitar as well for the East Bay band Loose Change, so he seemed to be a good choice. Jade without hesitation joined the band and the band began work on their fourth full-length album, Black Sails In The Sunset, released in mid-1999. This remarkable album introduced many to the band with it's more melodic form of hardcore and the first two "technically" slow songs by the band, "Clove Smoke Catharsis" and "God Called In Sick Today". The depth of the guitar was improved through the playing style of Puget. Near the end of 1999, the band released their most popular EP, All Hallows EP. The EP had 4 songs on it, including a Misfits cover (Halloween) and the song "Totalimmortal" which The Offspring later covered.

Enter the year 2000, and the band's pinnacle in my opinion. The band's fifth album, The Art Of Drowning, was a lot more polished and modernized per se than the previous records. While still keeping the same hardcore elements, the band introduced softer melodies and breakdowns, seen in such songs as "The Lost Souls", "A Story At Three", "The Despair Factor" and more. Also introduced were more experimental songs such as 6 to 8 (First stand-out guitar solo since Very Proud Of Ya), The Nephilim, Dream Of Waking (Concentrate on short guitar licks), and Morningstar (Using other stringed instruments). The album had to break through to the public somewhere. And it did in the most poppy song on the album, "Days Of The Phoenix". That song received airplay in select radio stations across the U.S. But AFI was still relatively unheard of by the general population. But with the firm footstep of The Art Of Drowning, you had to know something big was going to happen to the band and it did.

AFI, in the years previous to The Art Of Drowning, had become the biggest band on Nitro. So, Dexter of The Offspring and head of Nitro Records called a meeting with AFI and simply told them that Nitro simply did not have the resources to give AFI the resources they needed to reach their full potential. So he gave the band some suggestions of other labels, and with AFI's consent, he set them free into the market. They received many offers in a very short time, and had interviews with many different companies before deciding Dreamworks would be the more flexible company to work with, and eventually signing with them. For the first time since 1993, the band did not release anything recorded in a year. 2001 was time off from recording for the band. They did release a small EP, Days Of The Phoenix EP, which contained one previously unreleased track that year though. But in 2002, AFI finally released a two-song EP of new original material, 336. This is a little known EP for the band for a few reasons. The main reason being that it was never released on CD format. The two songs on the EP however are important in a sense because they are pretty much the crossroads of The Art Of Drowning and their monumental upcoming release.

2003 was a year that the biggest change in the music style for the band. In their 6th album, Sing The Sorrow, the band completely dropped all their punk influences in favor of a generally slower and darker style. The closest to a genre I can call this is post-hardcore. The music itself is a lot more full and experimental, but moreso than The Art Of Drowning. But because of the decline of abrasiveness in their music, it became a lot more radio-friendly. Here is where AFI made a name for themselves in a different way than before. The album came out right when the "punk rock is cool" fad hit a high. Only problem is that a whole lot of people didn't even know what punk really was. They saw AFI in videos like "Girl's Not Grey", "The Leaving Song pt. II", and "Silver and Cold". And these kids assumed that was what was cool, so their popularity grew for the wrong reason. But not long after all this happened, it became really cool to hate AFI. But a lot of people hadn't listened to their music enough to actually make an informed decision, so whatever, I'm getting off topic here. This was AFI's best selling album to date. It is also the album that has the most mixed feelings about.

To capitalize on AFI's newfound success, Nitro Records released a retrospective album compiling songs from Art of Drowning all the way back to ATASF (excluding A Fire Inside EP). Now, the band is back in the studio after some time off. They have released a rare cover of Nine Inch Nails' "Head Like A Hole". And they already wrote all the music for their next full-length album. The future is uncertain for the band's name however. It will be hard to top Sing The Sorrow, but maybe that's a good thing.

[El_Shiznit]

Each member

Davey Havok
I think that Davey is highly underappreciated in both of his duties in AFI. For one, he has written all AFI lyrics on the past few releases. Not only that, but if you look at the lyrics, you will know he is one of the best writers out there. He has the vocabulary of a motha and has taught me more words than my English teachers ever have. He uses a lot of imagery in his words and can pretty much paint a picture inside your mind with those words. The other thing I recognize him for is his singing range. He has good skills at singing low pitch (Ever And A Day), high pitch (High School Football Hero), screaming (Death Of Seasons), and talking (At A Glance). He can do it all pretty much. The man is very talented.

Jade Puget
He is one of the reasons newer AFI never really gets old. Not anytime fast if ever. He adds a whole new depth to the instrumentals of the band. Whereas Mark would play your average punk/hardcore songs consisting of mainly power chords the whole way through, Jade plays almost exclusively barre chords, small guitar licks, solos, etc. This may not seem all that impressive at first, seeing as how many other bands do similar, but you may be missing something in the songs if you only heard some a few times before. In a handful of songs, the solos are hidden under other music which seems very rewarding when you hear these solos the first time. Everything he has written for AFI has been incredibly catchy and hard-hitting at the same time.

Adam Carson
There is a reason that this is the only remaining founding member besides the frontman. He is very very talented. While the first 3 albums, his main concentration was on speed. But lately he has been more and more experimental in the drum progressions. Now in some songs, the drums are the most prominant feature which is a big step forward from the old songs with him drumming.

Hunter Burgan
Previous bassist, Geoff Kresge, is to this day one of the best bassists around. How does Hunter manage to hold his ground and still prove to be a better bassist for AFI? He is A Fire Inside and what it has become. Hunter is the driving heaviness in the band's music. While Kresge played fast catchy lines that were upbeat in a sense most of the time, Hunter played a deeper, more metal-ish sound while still keeping the signature hardcore style and speed. The first major change in AFI occurred when Hunter stepped in as bassist. Coincedence? I think not.


Discography

Dork EP - 1993
Behind The Times EP - 1993
Eddie Picnic's All Wet EP - 1994
Heckle EP - 1994
Answer That And Stay Fashionable - 1995
Fly In The Ointment EP - 1995
Very Proud Of Ya - 1996
Answer That And Stay Fashionable (re-release)- 1997
Shut Your Mouth And Open Your Eyes - 1997
A Fire Inside EP - 1998
Black Sails EP - 1999
Black Sails In The Sunset - 1999
All Hallow's EP - 1999
The Art Of Drowning - 2000
Days Of The Phoenix EP - 2001
336 EP - 2002
Sing The Sorrow - 2003
Leaving Song Pt. II (Australian release only) - 2003
AFI (A Retrospective)- 2004


Related Bands

Tiger Army (Adam played Drums for their S/T and Early Years EP; all members have sung backup for them; Geoff Kresge went on to join them; Tiger Army provides backup vocals and music for AFI on select songs as well)
Son Of Sam (Davey Havok sings for them)
The Frisk (Hunter plays drums in this band)
Loose Change (Jade Puget once played guitar for them)
Redemption '87 (Jade Played for them as well)
The Force (Hunter once played bass for them)
Rancid (They collaborated on a version of "Love Is A Many Splendored Thing")

Recommended Downloads

Self Pity
The Despair Factor
Smile
Let It Be Broke
Coin Return
Paper Airplanes (Makeshift Wings)
NyQuil
Porphyria Cutanea Tarda
Cruise Control
No Poetic Device
The Boy Who Destroyed The World
Overexposure
Shatty Fatmas


Well that was a lot of work.
If you come in to spam my thread with "AFI sUx!!!!!1", F'uck you. At least give me a reason dammit.

[Sid]

Now that you've got 1000 posts, you're a real man. Time to go to the strip club, son.

EDIT: By the way, good work.

[El_Shiznit]

Thank you.
And I'm taking you with me by the by.

[Brain Toad]

d00d, red da rules


All kidding aside, very nice work. I have actually never gave AFI a real listen, maybe I should.

[El_Shiznit]

All the downloadable songs I mentioned are pretty varied style-wise, so I suggest taking a downloading a few of them at first before making a judgment. And thank you much.

[Excursions]

Yea i have heard aa few songs but never really listened to enough to comment on thier music but great bio intersting read for sure :thumb:

[honkybrewster]

Very nice job on the profile:thumb:

[TransistorKolt]

If you like hardcore you gotta get Today's lessons, The leving song Pt. 2 shows jades guitar skills

[MILF Hunter]

Wrong forum

[skankin'sophr]

good work. afi was my favorite bandn for a long time, and i think you did a great job in telling how talented the band is. also i am happy cause i learned a few things from it.

corrections:
mostly oppinionated stuff. like i think that after very proud of ya and before their latest one, they were a proper emo band (emotional punk rock).

excellent!!

[ZaaR]

I didn't read the whole thing because it was too long but very nicely done. I love Afi they're one of my top 5 bands. Some other good downloads would be Halloween which is a Misfits cover and Dancing Through Sunday. :thumb:

[RetiredAt21]

That was a very good profile, very informative.

[punkster998]

Well, I have been wanting to do this for a while, and what better way to celebrate 1,000 posts by me, than to do a band profile on my favorite band? But I am following the rules dammit, so go re-read the rules because I don't want 1,000 "Read the rules!". And one more thing. Remember that no one cares if you think AFI sucks because I can name regulars on here that will disagree with you. Punk forum is for people who enjoy punk and if a decent amount of punk listeners enjoy AFI, then it is in fact in the correct place. Now that I have that out of the way.

A Fire Inside


Current Members
Vocals: Davey Havok
Bass: Hunter Burgan
Guitar: Jade Puget
Drums: Adam Carson
*All members do backup vocals

Past members
Guitar: Mark
Bass: Geoff Kresge


Labels
Key Lime Pie (1993-1994)
Wingnut (1994-1995)
Wedge (1995-1996)
Nitro (1996-2001)
Dreamworks (2002-2004)
*Time periods are rough
**In 1998, A Fire Inside EP was released on Adeline Records.


Many people today pass the early AFI off as Misfits wannabes. But compare the Misfits to AFI in this stage and you have to be mentally ill to not see a difference.


That's because they WERE Misfits wannabes. Ok, they didn't sound like the MIsfits, but they basically were copying their STYLE.

[SLManifestoLove]

Nice profile.. very long but equally* good

[NuGgEt123]

:thumb: good profile...

[TransistorKolt]

effort well spent

[Let's Chop Cats!]

I like them better with Jade than before him.

[Brothel_Creeper]

Wrong forum

PWN3D

[Sid]

F'uck Matt is cool.

[evildemonlemurs]

You did a very good job on this, but there are a few mistakes. First off, you said that 6 to 8 had the first solo since Very Proud Of Ya. That is not true. On Shut Your Mouth And Open Your Eyes, at the end of the son Salt For Your Wounds, there is a solo. Its in the background, but if you listen you can hear it. Also, you forgot to mention that Jade was in one of my favorite bands, Redemption 87. He was in it with singer Eric Ozene, later of the great Nerve Agents. They did a reunion show not that long ago with Jade on guitar alongside the original guitarist Tommy Chunks. check them out at http://www.myspace.com/redemption87

[freaks_refuge]

There's no way this band are emo, there's also no way this is in the wrong forum. Just because they are no stretching the limits of what Punk is. If you only wanna listen to bands with generic lyrics and the same four chords, listen to a lot of other punk bands (which is fine 'cause a lot of them are good bands), if you wanna take your listening experiences further, listen to this band, especially the later stuff. 'nuff said, innit!

[Let's Chop Cats!]

The reason why they're not supposed to be talked about here is mainly because they're all over TV and magazines and such.

Their new stuff with Jade I consider to be Post-Hardcore.

[El_Shiznit]

You did a very good job on this, but there are a few mistakes. First off, you said that 6 to 8 had the first solo since Very Proud Of Ya. That is not true. On Shut Your Mouth And Open Your Eyes, at the end of the son Salt For Your Wounds, there is a solo. Its in the background, but if you listen you can hear it. Also, you forgot to mention that Jade was in one of my favorite bands, Redemption 87. He was in it with singer Eric Ozene, later of the great Nerve Agents. They did a reunion show not that long ago with Jade on guitar alongside the original guitarist Tommy Chunks. check them out at http://www.myspace.com/redemption87
Ah, how could I forget. I knew another band. Rep + for you.

[guns_of_brixton]

I'm not really a huge fan af AFI, but nice profile anyways

[dudetezz]

Very cool, im part of the "I dont give a toss if AFI aint punk, they kick ***" club. Im just starting to get into their pre-Art of Drowning stuff now thanks to that Retrospective CD.

[Macdaddy]

that was awesome man. afi one of my favourite bands but i didnt really know much about them. for starters i knew they been around for ages but had no idea how many different lps and eps they released.

definitely punk i say so you in right forum and they should be discussed here.

nice work i read whole thing and thought was awesome

[Mozzletoffed]

I think hunter plays drums in some band.

[El_Shiznit]

Yep. That band is the Fritch that I mentioned in related bands.

[DrGolovaCroxby]

about d'amn time. i'd rep you, but i have to spread some around first.

[TheNowhereman42]

AFI suck

;-)

[El_Shiznit]

Thanks anyways Doc.
And you're lucky you're my biatch mr. nowhereman.

[Mozzletoffed]

Yep. That band is the Fritch that I mentioned in related bands.
surry,didn't see it.

[theclash91]

nice job

[Fat people are hard to kidnap]

i've always liked them, even though im a metalhead and have no taste for punk. Thing is, i don't see them as punk, to me they are just...i don't know, different. The lyrics from Shut Your Mouth seem more punk, but from Black Sails and The Art of Drowning seem more, gothic i guess.

oh well.

[40 oz 2 freedom]

Very nice. I love AFI.

[FlamingCouch]

EGGcellent profile, very informative. I also love AFI.

[The Alientater]

That was a great profille.... how do you know so much about AFI?? I never knew they had released so many EP's before Answer That and Stay Fashionable. AFI is definitely my favorite band, probably because they're so different from most bands. And, of course, their first two full-length albums are like a completely different band when compared to the latest ones.
But, yeah.... that's a lot of information, El_Shizzy. Where did you learn all that stuff? I'm thinking you started listening to AFI in their early stages, whereas I hadn't really listened to them until The Days of the Phoenix (Art of Drowning) and kind of worked my way backwards through the albums for the most part.
I gotta go but great job on the profile.

[El_Shiznit]

:p
You were listening to AFI before me. I only got into them seriously about a year ago. I first heard Very Proud of Ya back in 1999 and hated it. Obviously it grew on me.

I decided one day that I would seriously sit down and listen to the band. This was a long time after STS was released. My friend burned me a mix CD and I grew to like the songs and eventually got all their albums and became basically obsessed with them.

How do I know so much? Ummmm, you can call it boredom and obsession. I wanted to know of the band more. Before I found these forums, there wasn't much else to do in my free time, so I learned a lot about them. All this information I got came from too many sources to list. I just compiled all the important things in this thread. Thank you! :thumb:

[TheNowhereman42]

I'd do an Op Ivy one, but everybody already knows tons about them, and its probably been done before.

wow, old thread

[El_Shiznit]

Nope. No one's done one for Op Ivy yet. Go for it slacker.

[TheNowhereman42]

ha, sure why not, i'll do it on the weekend or something, right now I have to deal with the girlfrind, school work, and my new obsession with World of Warcraft, so it'll probably wait till the weekend.

[honkybrewster]

A friend of mine has been listening to AFI since she was 8 and her uncle or cousin or something got her into them. They're her favorite band now... I think that's neat.

An Op Ivy profile would be pretty cool, go for it.

[aidswac]

[QUOTE=El_Shizzy]Each member

Davey Havok
I think that Davey is highly underappreciated in both of his duties in AFI. For one, he has written all AFI lyrics on the past few releases. Not only that, but if you look at the lyrics, you will know he is one of the best writers out there. He has the vocabulary of a motha and has taught me more words than my English teachers ever have. He uses a lot of imagery in his words and can pretty much paint a picture inside your mind with those words. The other thing I recognize him for is his singing range. He has good skills at singing low pitch (Ever And A Day), high pitch (High School Football Hero), screaming (Death Of Seasons), and talking (At A Glance). He can do it all pretty much. The man is very talented.

Jade Puget
He is one of the reasons newer AFI never really gets old. Not anytime fast if ever. He adds a whole new depth to the instrumentals of the band. Whereas Mark would play your average punk/hardcore songs consisting of mainly power chords the whole way through, Jade plays almost exclusively barre chords, small guitar licks, solos, etc. This may not seem all that impressive at first, seeing as how many other bands do similar, but you may be missing something in the songs if you only heard some a few times before. In a handful of songs, the solos are hidden under other music which seems very rewarding when you hear these solos the first time. Everything he has written for AFI has been incredibly catchy and hard-hitting at the same time.

Adam Carson
There is a reason that this is the only remaining founding member besides the frontman. He is very very talented. While the first 3 albums, his main concentration was on speed. But lately he has been more and more experimental in the drum progressions. Now in some songs, the drums are the most prominant feature which is a big step forward from the old songs with him drumming.

Hunter Burgan
Previous bassist, Geoff Kresge, is to this day one of the best bassists around. How does Hunter manage to hold his ground and still prove to be a better bassist for AFI? He is A Fire Inside and what it has become. Hunter is the driving heaviness in the band's music. While Kresge played fast catchy lines that were upbeat in a sense most of the time, Hunter played a deeper, more metal-ish sound while still keeping the signature hardcore style and speed. The first major change in AFI occurred when Hunter stepped in as bassist. Coincedence? I think not.


Discography

Dork EP - 1993
Behind The Times EP - 1993
Eddie Picnic's All Wet EP - 1994
Heckle EP - 1994
Answer That And Stay Fashionable - 1995
Fly In The Ointment EP - 1995
Very Proud Of Ya - 1996
Answer That And Stay Fashionable (re-release)- 1997
Shut Your Mouth And Open Your Eyes - 1997
A Fire Inside EP - 1998
Black Sails EP - 1999
Black Sails In The Sunset - 1999
All Hallow's EP - 1999
The Art Of Drowning - 2000
Days Of The Phoenix EP - 2001
336 EP - 2002
Sing The Sorrow - 2003
Leaving Song Pt. II (Australian release only) - 2003
AFI (A Retrospective)- 2004


Related Bands

Tiger Army (Adam played Drums for their S/T and Early Years EP; all members have sung backup for them; Geoff Kresge went on to join them; Tiger Army provides backup vocals and music for AFI on select songs as well)
Son Of Sam (Davey Havok sings for them)
The Fritch (Hunter plays drums in this band)
Loose Change (Jade Puget once played guitar for them)
Redemption '87 (Jade Played for them as well)
The Force (Hunter once played bass for them)
Rancid (They collaborated on a version of "Love Is A Many Splendored Thing")

Recommended Downloads

Self Pity
The Despair Factor
Smile
Let It Be Broke
Coin Return
Paper Airplanes (Makeshift Wings)
NyQuil
Porphyria Cutanea Tarda
Cruise Control
No Poetic Device
The Boy Who Destroyed The World
Overexposure
Shatty Fatmas


Well that was a lot of work.
If you come in to spam my thread with "AFI sUx!!!!!1", F'uck you. At least give me a reason dammit.[/QUOT

I really like AFI but only because of sing the sorrow, i also have black sails and art of drowning an they aren't very good so i would have suggested getting most songs of sing the sorrow

[albert_bass]

Hey, I didn't know of that profile. You know I love AFI El_Shizzy and now I love you too. Very very good profile. I didn't know that the bassist of AFI was the same as Tiger Army's, he was awesome.

[nitzguy]

very good. afi will always be in rotation for me

[Evanw]

great job

[ScarDISORDER]

afi is awsome. one of my personal favorites. but please dont call them hardcore, post-hardcore or emo (emo? what the **** were you thinkging?) becuase you really cant catagorize them with your fancy lables and such. think about it. well, think about it as given retrospective afi mixed with newer afi. they've really made they're own style of music.

[Let's Chop Cats!]

Hardcore/Punk band. When Jade joined they became a Post-Hardcore band.

Now that wasn't so bad.

[SantaDuJuan]

Hardcore/Punk band. When Jade joined they became a Post-Hardcore band.

Now that wasn't so bad.


For some odd reason. They remind me of GlassJaw.

[Gotta Scream Punk]

I really like Shut your Mouth and Open your Eyes and I really dislike Sing the Sorrow. I'd like to get the retrospective but the styles are so varied it'd be weird to listen to the new stuff right next to the old stuff.

[Let's Chop Cats!]

Was this ever added to the list of profiles?

[Gotta Scream Punk]

Was this ever added to the list of profiles?

There's a list? Where can I find it?

[Let's Chop Cats!]

If you read the rules you'd know.

[theGirlwhoLived]

kudos on the profile.
afi are one of my favorite bands, but i never knew that much about them and their history. very nice work

[Gotta Scream Punk]

If you read the rules you'd know.

I assumed I was comofrtable enough with mx rules in general and I never read the punk forum rules.

[Max-Mohawk]

I saw an AFI show not too long ago with Bleeding Through, and it was an amazing show. Davey's cheerleader move in the crowd is one of a kind.

[TheNowhereman42]

If you read the rules you'd know.

haha I didn't know either, I never acctually read the rules, other than bands you can't discuss, and I ignore those ones anyway.

[El_Shiznit]

Yes it was added to the rules page Reiner. And thanks for all the comments guys.

[afireinside86]

I must say that was a superb post, on the best band of the modern day. as you can see by the name, i love those guys. If you havent been to a show of theirs, you need to because it is the most intense thing i have ever encountered. well thats about it, and if you dont like AFI i have nothing to say to you cause it would be terrible words. :evil:

[dislocated214]

d00d, red da rules


All kidding aside, very nice work. I have actually never gave AFI a real listen, maybe I should.
Same, I hated everything I've seen on MTV. But I hated everything on MTV that Coheed and Cambria put out but I love all their other stuff, I like my sci-fi rock. ;)

[the_music_inside]

3 words... holy... ****ing... ****...
that profile was awsome. but some songs to add to the songs to listen to
bleed black
days of the phoenix
girls not grey
halloween (the outro is as long as the main part of the song, its awsome)
silver and cold (its different then most of the songs on the CD, its the softer side)
totalimmortal
the leaving song pt. 2 (awsome opening solo by jade)
and he who laughs last.
I've been a fan of AFI for a while, and I'm dying to get the box set thing with all of their hits from when they were on nitro records :thumb:

[honkybrewster]

Yeah, "Totalimortal" is pretty kickass. I liked the video too.

[MinorThreat]

Each member

Davey Havok
I think that Davey is highly underappreciated in both of his duties in AFI. For one, he has written all AFI lyrics on the past few releases. Not only that, but if you look at the lyrics, you will know he is one of the best writers out there. He has the vocabulary of a motha and has taught me more words than my English teachers ever have. He uses a lot of imagery in his words and can pretty much paint a picture inside your mind with those words. The other thing I recognize him for is his singing range. He has good skills at singing low pitch (Ever And A Day), high pitch (High School Football Hero), screaming (Death Of Seasons), and talking (At A Glance). He can do it all pretty much. The man is very talented.



As a matter of fact, Davey has written MOST but not all of the lyrics on the past few releases. Jade did write the 1st and 3rd verse of the song "This Time Imperfect"

Anyways.... aside from that little mistake, Great post covering my favorite band!!!!!

[Raynor21]

Wow, well done, this definately does my favorite band an honor, way to pay homage! Those songs that you mentioned to download are by far some of my favorite, especially The Despair Factor!

[roland]

Wow, well done, this definately does my favorite band an honor, way to pay homage! Those songs that you mentioned to download are by far some of my favorite, especially The Despair Factor!

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[the_masterbasser]

aFi I$ $0 pHaGgIsH, U n00b!!!

No im jk, don't get angry.
I'm a huge AFI fan, but I think you shoulda put God Called in Sick today and their cover of My Michelle on the reccomended downloads list, and maybe something from the new album too, just for a bit of variety (I would reccomend Leaving Song 2 or Dancing Through Sunday for that).

Other than that, awesome.

[TigerArmy]

That was a nice read, good job man.

[The_Red_Death]

Nice job on the profile. :thumb: AFI kicks ***.

[maco]

Dork EP - 1993
Behind The Times EP - 1993
Eddie Picnic's All Wet EP - 1994
Heckle EP - 1994
Answer That And Stay Fashionable - 1995
Fly In The Ointment EP - 1995
Very Proud Of Ya - 1996
Answer That And Stay Fashionable (re-release)- 1997
Shut Your Mouth And Open Your Eyes - 1997
A Fire Inside EP - 1998
Black Sails EP - 1999
Black Sails In The Sunset - 1999
All Hallow's EP - 1999
The Art Of Drowning - 2000
Days Of The Phoenix EP - 2001
336 EP - 2002
Sing The Sorrow - 2003
Leaving Song Pt. II (Australian release only) - 2003
AFI (A Retrospective)- 2004

Recommended Downloads

Self Pity
The Despair Factor
Smile
Let It Be Broke
Coin Return
Paper Airplanes (Makeshift Wings)
NyQuil
Porphyria Cutanea Tarda
Cruise Control
No Poetic Device
The Boy Who Destroyed The World
Overexposure
Shatty Fatmas

Dear, I would like to know why you don't include any of the wonderful rarities like Red Hat or Dream of Waking or Lower It? Those are some great old songs. Oh, and if anyone wants to rip the pre-ATASF stuff to mp3 for me, that'd be lovely. Man in a Suitcase would be nice too since they didn't put it on the Nitro version, only on the Wingnut version. Oh, and one more thing, you included the TLSP2 singles in your discography list, but you left out the GNG singles! I have 2 of those. Not the best song, but the little demos that come along are nice. Ixnay & Alli's site (http://www.afiseries.com) has the complete discography. Oh, and Death of Seasons, GCIST, and TTI should've been on the downloads list. Those are great songs (gotta love the industrial breakdown in DOS)

[El_Shiznit]

Well, well, well. Look what we have here. :D



I didn't include those songs, because honestly, I like the other ones better. Plus, the ones I listed are easier for new listeners to find. Dream Of Waking is one hell of a tune I must say. As is Lower It. I've heard every AFI song, and like them all. I can't put every track on there ya know. :thumb:

[TheNowhereman42]

no one ever bumps my band profile :(

[El_Shiznit]

no one ever bumps my band profile :(
Give it time. It just got put on the list.

[maco]

As a matter of fact, Davey has written MOST but not all of the lyrics on the past few releases. Jade did write the 1st and 3rd verse of the song "This Time Imperfect"

Anyways.... aside from that little mistake, Great post covering my favorite band!!!!!
actually, Davey wrote all of the TTI lyrics. It's the Spoken Word on which Jade did the 1st and 3rd stanzas.

[maco]

Well, well, well. Look what we have here. :D
An obsessive AFI listener that:
~got ahold of 5 AFI cds within one month
~has AFI making up 1/4 of the cd collection
~is a member of the fanclub (http://despairfaction.com)
~has received a letter back from Davey
???

Shizzy, do you have the full version of the Chicken Song? The one I downloaded only has up to "It's something to eat when your wife's in the shelter" :upset: I want the post-Jade-talking part too!

[El_Shiznit]

An obsessive AFI listener that:
~got ahold of 5 AFI cds within one month
~has AFI making up 1/4 of the cd collection
~is a member of the fanclub (http://despairfaction.com)
~has received a letter back from Davey
???

Shizzy, do you have the full version of the Chicken Song? The one I downloaded only has up to "It's something to eat when your wife's in the shelter" :upset: I want the post-Jade-talking part too!
I do. I originally had the version you have, and was real pissed. So I went and finally found the real version.


Hmmm, of your accomplishments:
~Got ahold of 6 AFI CD's in one month
~I have too many CD's to want to make that into a fraction.
~Meh, don't feel like paying money. I'm cheap. :)
~Never had anything to do with Davey.

[cheeser_1]

why does it matter how many you get in a month? i'm sure i could get ahold of 12 AFI CDs in a month. why would that matter though? :confused:

[El_Shiznit]

why does it matter how many you get in a month? i'm sure i could get ahold of 12 AFI CDs in a month. why would that matter though? :confused:
I bet you can't. They don't have that many CD's. :)

[Sep]

Great job on that. Can't believe I've never read that yet.

[cheeser_1]

I bet you can't. They don't have that many CD's. :)
They don't have that many albums.
I have eight AFI CDs. I'm sure there are four I don't have.

[AndreTheHyena]

Good job, man. They were one of the first punk bands I got into, and their first two albums still make me come.

[fatwreckpunk]

Thats a very good review, enjoyed every bit of it. You should do one on bad religion

[maco]

I bet you can't. They don't have that many CD's. :)
haha....well technically...if you go ATASF-STS that's 6, plus 2 EPs, that's 8, and then if you got a Black Sails EP, a few GNG singles....you could....There are 4 versions of the TLSP2 single, 6 of GNG, the Black Sails EP, the Total Immortal promo cd, DOTP EP, Wester promo single, AOD promo, AFI: A History (not the retrospective), STS Advance, 3 versions of the GNG radio promo, 2 versions of the STS sampler, and tonne more that I really don't feel like typing....

And the thing about getting them in one month is that I actually went that insane. I spent about $80 on AFI cds in one month, and I don't even have a job.

[AndreTheHyena]

Who cares?

[El_Shiznit]

They don't have that many albums.
I have eight AFI CDs. I'm sure there are four I don't have.
They have 6 full lengths, and two main EPs in CD format. Nitro just released a compilation, so that is nine total. It's hard to find, but you could also get the Winter's Tale EP and the Black Sails EP. They aren't really that big because all of the songs except one, "Who Knew?", appear on later AFI releases. That's eleven, and the rest of the material I think is vinyl exclusive.

Thanks to all that commented again. :wave:


Thats a very good review, enjoyed every bit of it. You should do one on bad religion
I'm pretty sure one has been done on Bad Religion already.

[guns_of_brixton]

I've read this proflie before, but it was worth another read because its really good.

[maco]

They have 6 full lengths, and two main EPs in CD format. Nitro just released a compilation, so that is nine total. It's hard to find, but you could also get the Winter's Tale EP and the Black Sails EP. They aren't really that big because all of the songs except one, "Who Knew?", appear on later AFI releases. That's eleven, and the rest of the material I think is vinyl exclusive.

There's still all the cd singles. I have 10 disks total...the 6 albums, 2 EPs, and 2 GNG singles

[StrangeDenial]

Very nice job on the profile:thumb:

i couldnt agree more, AFI is very talented, and you did a good job of their profile. i have the ATASF cd, its great :D

[Shtein]

nice job on profile, but i never really liked AFI

[honkybrewster]

i couldnt agree more, AFI is very talented, and you did a good job of their profile. i have the ATASF cd, its great :D
You bumped an old thread, buddy. But I forgive you, because this thread kicks ***.

[maco]

I do. I originally had the version you have, and was real pissed. So I went and finally found the real version.
Could you send me the full version of the Chicken Song? dollzrgr8@yahoo.com I want it :upset:

[BassPlayer222]

great profile....you covered AFI better than any magazine or tv interview could

[El_Shiznit]

Could you send me the full version of the Chicken Song? dollzrgr8@yahoo.com I want it :upset:
Done.


great profile....you covered AFI better than any magazine or tv interview could
Thank you.

[maco]

Thanks Shizzy!

[the_great_dissapointment]

Awesome Band Profile. One of the best and indepth I have seen on Afi. I am a huge Afi fan and I think that you got everything perfect:) One thing though, you forogt to put in that Adam played drums for tiger army. Thanks heaps, it was an awesome read :wave:

(If anyone gets a chance to go and see them live DO IT! they are one of the best live bands I have ever seen!)

[roulette dares 3]

this is te first time i've beenon the punk forum, im usually on the rock and metal or the guitar forum, and the only reason for me going here was for afi. great review afi are probably the closest to punk band i like. I only have sing the sorrow though, is totalimmortal good cos i mite download the video to that. and what did davey say in the letter he sent to maco. oh ye and wats with all these rumours that davey and jade are gay, i don't believe them but it is sumthing i would like to know.

[fatwreckpunk]

You need to learn to spell before you come on this forum

[roulette dares 3]

i was in a hurry and didnt notice the screw ups until it was 2 late. but i would still like to know the answeres to the questions.

[albert_bass]

Totalimmortal is great and that's all I can answer. Edit your post to make it understandable.

[roulette dares 3]

Originally Posted by maco
An obsessive AFI listener that:
~got ahold of 5 AFI cds within one month
~has AFI making up 1/4 of the cd collection
~is a member of the fanclub
~has received a letter back from Davey
???

Shizzy, do you have the full version of the Chicken Song? The one I downloaded only has up to "It's something to eat when your wife's in the shelter" I want the post-Jade-talking part too!

ok heres my second shot

wat did davey say in the letter
and
where did the rumours of davey and jade being gay with each other come from and why, not that i believe it

[fatwreckpunk]

total immortal is such a great song to play on bass too

[Anti-Prefix]

That was an amazing profile I must say. Shizzy, you said they were on Wingnut, which is interesting because I used to listen to quite a few bands on that label. But I think Wingnut either went out of business, or their site is just down. Anyway it's hard to picture them on that label, but really interesting to me.

again, amazing job.

[cheeser_1]

where did the rumours of davey and jade being gay with each other come from and why, not that i believe it
"not that i believe it"? what, is that such a terrible thing for him to be?

[sketchyjoe]

Because they're ugly.

[roulette dares 3]

well i'd rather them not be gay, is that so unacceptable. i'm sick of people saying "being gay is ok" and its about the music, which i do agree it is about the music but being gay is just, GAY. and i don't need a human rights or gay rite or freedom of sexuality lesson after this post.

[sketchyjoe]

well i'd rather them not be gay, is that so unacceptable. i'm sick of people saying "being gay is ok" and its about the music, which i do agree it is about the music but being gay is just, GAY. and i don't need a human rights or gay rite or freedom of sexuality lesson after this post.I totally agree. I like Bad Brains but they'd be so much better if they weren't black.


And being gay is SOOOOOOOO gay.

[roulette dares 3]

ummm....i didn't ssay i had anything against black people but if u do then i won't say anything, but i do agree, homos are gay

[sketchyjoe]

ummm....i didn't ssay i had anything against black people but if u do then i won't say anything, but i do agree, homos are gayHow can you not like gay people and like black people?

They are both abominations in the eyes of god. And Hitler.

[Anti-Prefix]

well i'd rather them not be gay, is that so unacceptable. i'm sick of people saying "being gay is ok" and its about the music, which i do agree it is about the music but being gay is just, GAY. and i don't need a human rights or gay rite or freedom of sexuality lesson after this post.

HAHA, that reminds me of this shirt I want to buy.

"Homophobia is gay."

There's nothing wrong with homosexuals, stop judging people you close-minded fool.

[Nowhereman42]

Girls are for fags

[roulette dares 3]

HAHA, that reminds me of this shirt I want to buy.

"Homophobia is gay."

There's nothing wrong with homosexuals, stop judging people you close-minded fool.

i specifically said no gay rites lectures. and im not close-minded just because i don't agree with everyone on things like "hey stop judging gays man it's their choice" i'm open minded enough to agree not to agree intead of going along with the flow of hippies, whom probably don't agree with gays anyway.

[The Cameo Role]

i specifically said no gay rites lectures. and im not close-minded just because i don't agree with everyone on things like "hey stop judging gays man it's their choice" i'm open minded enough to agree not to agree intead of going along with the flow of hippies, whom probably don't agree with gays anyway.

I want to rape you in the ***.

[AndreTheHyena]

I don't know which post to quote and reply to with " :lol: :lol: :lol: ". It's all too much for me to handle.

[cheeser_1]

I totally agree. I like Bad Brains but they'd be so much better if they weren't black.


And being gay is SOOOOOOOO gay.
thank you joe.

i'm glad to see that this place got some common sense while i was away.

[*anarchy*]

homos are gay

just like females are women? RIIIIIIIIIIIIIITE :naughty: :smash:

[cheeser_1]

that's not exactly true. i'd correct you, but it's not worth my time.

[Anarcho Poser]

HAHA, that reminds me of this shirt I want to buy.

"Homophobia is gay."

There's nothing wrong with homosexuals, stop judging people you close-minded fool.
http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=23

[Sep]

1) Stupid people make up rumors to have something to bitch about and make fun of.
2) It's probably because they show off their feminine side more often with the pink nails etc.
3) The question has officially been answered by Jade on the official AFI messageboard- Davey isn't gay-neither is Jade.
4) I don't know why I even bothered typing that.

[littlebeast]

I just found an old AFI shirt that I got when they toured for "very proud of ya." Anyone wanna trade for it?

[AndreTheHyena]

What size is it?

[albert_bass]

How can you not like gay people and like black people?

They are both abominations in the eyes of god. And Hitler.

Hahaha :lol: You rule so much.

[Anti-Prefix]

I just found an old AFI shirt that I got when they toured for "very proud of ya." Anyone wanna trade for it?

Shizzy will probably want it

[afireinside4848]

The Fritch (Hunter plays drums in this band)

hunter on drums?

[Sleeper]

Great Post, I still have to check out there older such as 'Very proud of ya', and 'Answer that and stay fashionable.'

[honkybrewster]

I just found an old AFI shirt that I got when they toured for "very proud of ya." Anyone wanna trade for it?
Holy crap, how much will you take for it?

[El_Shiznit]

Shizzy will probably want it
Nah, it appears some people might want it ahead of me, and they called it, so it's theirs if they want.


The Fritch (Hunter plays drums in this band)

hunter on drums?
Yep. Except the band name is actually Frisk (or The Frisk). Heh, typo.


Great Post, I still have to check out there older such as 'Very proud of ya', and 'Answer that and stay fashionable.'
Yeah, you really should. Nice catchy stuff.





I finished revising my Rare Tracks AFI album, so all that hard to find stuff I now have. So hit me up on the soulsex if you're interested.
Oh, and uh thanks for the compliments and keepin' the AFI love alive.

[metty16]

This thread should be closed. Talking about gays belongs in the Green Day thread in pop-punk

[El_Shiznit]

This thread should be closed. Talking about gays belongs in the Green Day thread in pop-punk
Shut your ****in piehole and read the second goddamn sentence.

[littlebeast]

The Frisk has Jesse from Blatz on vocals

[El_Shiznit]

Yeah, they also got members (or a single member) from the Nerve Agents. I haven't actually heard much from them though. Been meaning to get around to it for a while now.

[DrGolovaCroxby]

my band is covering "Yurf Rendenmein". it has since revitalized how much i like AFI.

[albert_bass]

If I had to do a cover by them I'd do "Cereal Wars" no doubt about it. I frickin' love that song.

[AndreTheHyena]

My band in high school used to cover "He Who Laughs Last". It always made me lose my voice.

[cheeser_1]

my band is covering "Yurf Rendenmein". it has since revitalized how much i like AFI.
i like to play "open your eyes."

[Sleeper]

My band in high school used to cover "He Who Laughs Last". It always made me lose my voice.
My band covered 'God called in sick today', My singers voice was gone after doing the song.

[AndreTheHyena]

It's tough. I sang and played bass, so it was exhausting and I would always screw up the tempo, but it was great fun.

[DrGolovaCroxby]

It's tough. I sang and played bass, so it was exhausting and I would always screw up the tempo, but it was great fun.

i only have to sing, and Yurf Rendenmein isn't that tough on the throat.

[El_Shiznit]

If this cover is recorded, you better let me hear it. :)

[DrGolovaCroxby]

If this cover is recorded, you better let me hear it. :)

one day, dear shizzy... one day.

[soil332]

ahmen, exactly what i think,,, afi is the best band ever, and all my friends think they suck cause of sing the sorrow, i mean i love that album, but compared to black sails in the sunset and art of drowning, it is crap, but i still love it, dam it this is the best band ever, i cant explain why though:confused: :thumb: :thumb: :chug:

[maco]

You're not supposed to bring back threads that haven't been posted in for more than a week. 8 months is more than a week. Only official threads can come back, so if you want to talk about AFI, go to the official AFI thread. There's a list of official ones in the FAQ. Or just look around. It's titled "I Want an Official AFI Thread But Mom Won't Let Me Get One" and it's probably on the 2nd or 3rd page.

Hell, it's on the front page.

[Brain Toad]

You're not supposed to bring back threads that haven't been posted in for more than a week. 8 months is more than a week. Only official threads can come back, so if you want to talk about AFI, go to the official AFI thread. There's a list of official ones in the FAQ. Or just look around. It's titled "I Want an Official AFI Thread But Mom Won't Let Me Get One" and it's probably on the 2nd or 3rd page.

Hell, it's on the front page.

You can bump band profiles, but the guy is an idiot and needs to post in the official thread though.

[maco]

Still, he went through HOW MANY pages to reach this when the official one's on the first page? Any conversation that may have been going on here 8 months ago has definitely moved to that one.

[Brain Toad]

Still, he went through HOW MANY pages to reach this when the official one's on the first page? Any conversation that may have been going on here 8 months ago has definitely moved to that one.

The thread is linked in the rules ;)

[maco]

I thought the official one was linked in the rules...band profiles have links in there too?

[Brain Toad]

I thought the official one was linked in the rules...band profiles have links in there too?

I'm guessing you've never looked through the rules :)

Every band profile is linked in the rules, as well as all official threads and other threads as well.

[maco]

not in over a year :)

[Weezerfan_returns]

is the 336 EP still in print?