*** The Cymbal Finder ***

[MXboy]

icic. btw u know what i'm talking about right? playing them instead of the hats? but actually at the same time really crashing on them?

So I was Thinking, Would a 16" HHX Stage crash and an 18" AA Medium Crash suffice? Together with the XS20 Crash I already own? But according to what i read on the sabian website, both cymbals are suited more for playing high volumes. Are there other cymbals which would be more suited for playing in a room? ty

By The way, in case my shop doesnt stock either of them, what would be good alternatives ? Could you recommend like 2 other alternatives per cymbal? Thanks again. Sorry for the trouble

[wipe_my_button]

ive been looking for decently priced cymbals. i play mostly punk/rock. something loud, fast, and versitile. anyone help me?

[Tim]

ive been looking for decently priced cymbals. i play mostly punk/rock. something loud, fast, and versitile. anyone help me?

try something from the AA or the AAX line.

[bobby__johnny]

So I was Thinking, Would a 16" HHX Stage crash and an 18" AA Medium Crash suffice? Together with the XS20 Crash I already own? But according to what i read on the sabian website, both cymbals are suited more for playing high volumes.

trust me, they'll be fine. those are good choices too.

ive been looking for decently priced cymbals. i play mostly punk/rock. something loud, fast, and versitile. anyone help me?

Sabian PRO....those things CUT

[wipe_my_button]

bobby__johnny: Sabian PRO....those things CUT

whats the difference between the sabian b8 pro and the b8 rock pro?

[NCDrummer]

In your opinion....What're better?

A Custom? K Custom? or Z Custom?

[rwood317]

im looking for a second crash. im looking into a Z Custom medium crash. im kind of looking for a loud crash and sort of fast. what size should i get if i do.

[Tim]

In your opinion....What're better?

A Custom? K Custom? or Z Custom?

A custom and K customs

[Tim]

im looking for a second crash. im looking into a Z Custom medium crash. im kind of looking for a loud crash and sort of fast. what size should i get if i do.

you should get an A custom instead. Z's are a dead sound.

[bobby__johnny]

bobby__johnny: Sabian PRO....those things CUT

whats the difference between the sabian b8 pro and the b8 rock pro?

cant say i've heard of B8 Rock Pro before...but the difference in the PRO's and B8 Pro's would be definate quality. the PRO's are made more like the Paiste Alpha in terms of alloy and sound. the B8 Pro (to me) is just a regular B8 with a Brilliant Finish

[stevoibanez]

What does the 21" AAX Stage Ride sound like? I found for real cheap and I am considering buying it.
Fairly washy, with a nice soft ping. BEST CRASH EVER

[dc529]

i want a zildjian china with a medium tone. i want it to be trashy sounding, but not too loud which would overpower my other cymbals. does something like the a custom swish or k custom dark sound good?

[poppinfresh]

a swish should work , or maybe a pang.

[dc529]

also what size would give me a medium tone

[poppinfresh]

i dont know that much.

[dc529]

haha alright

[Meeko]

I'm looking for a crash. Now, the largest I have is 16 inches. I wanted to get a bigger one, 17 18, or 19 inches. I'm looking for something that will cut through heavy metal type music, but is still musical. I don't want it to ring for a while. I'm thinking Vaults or A Custom's. Here's my curent cymbal lineup if that helps ya'll out.

Zildjian
12" K Splash
14" A Quickbeat Hi-Hats
14" A Paperthin Crash
15" A Custom Crash
16" A Paperthin Crash
16" K Custom Dark Crash
22" A Ping Ride (Thinking of replacing with A Custom 20" or 22")

Paiste
10" Alpha Splash (Will replace soon)
14" Aplha Hi-Hats (Secondary hats, will replace once I get a remote cable stand)

Edit: Brand doesn't matter.

Thanks, ya'll.

[Tim]

18inch A custom, 19inch A custom, 18inch AAXplosion,^^^

[bobby__johnny]

18" AAX Stage for sure.

[Tim]

18" AAX Stage for sure.

yea those too

[Meeko]

18inch A custom, 19inch A custom, 18inch AAXplosion,^^^
Regular A Custom? Fast Crash? Projection? I'm assuming you mean regular, I just want to make sure.

[Tim]

Regular A Custom? Fast Crash? Projection? I'm assuming you mean regular, I just want to make sure.

regular i meant . also i hear the projections are good to try them out. never heard a projection though.

[Plan B.]

I kinda regret buying my 18" Projection because I didn't notice the bell size right away. I originally had the 17" version, has a much lower, flatter bell, which to me gives it more response, a broader presence and less high end shrill. I went to buy a larger counterpart for it one day, didn't try it out as extensively at the store as I should have, and now when you compare bell size, the 18" has a significantly larger bell. Thus giving it those terribly high pitch shrills that I am not as fond of, as the smooth brilliance of the 17".

Don't get me wrong, the Projection series is great, you want power from A Customs, I'd go with these over the A Custom Mediums anyday, because frankly I don't think I could handle and more out of this 18", and the Mediums are even more of a heavyweight. Now I don't consider myself a light hitting by any means, but it takes a good wackin' to get the main sound outta the 18" too.

That's my advice for the day.

:cool:

[4t4]

does anybody know what kind of cymbals the drummer of metallica plays? i think they are much to expensive for me so could anybody list some altenatives betwenn 300 an 500 dollar with the same sound?

[stevoibanez]

^^ Lars uses Zildjian Z customs, and I think for 500 dollars you can get the hats, and 2 crashes (he doesn't have a ride in his setup)

[bobby__johnny]

not anymore anyway...the A Zildjians are cheaper arent they? they'd be a MUCH better choice than the Z Customs.

[I'd Hit it]

I'm still looking at rides, the ones that caught my ear at the store were HHX Power Ride and a Paiste Mark I dark energy ride (kinda like this one, it's black colored, http://www.musicorp.com/images/products/SI20DER_sm.jpg )

What I liked on these rides so much were mostly the bells. but then when I'd play around on the rest of the cymbal, it just wasn't the sound I wanted. There was this signature 20" dark crisp ride, which had an awesome bell + bow sound, but the 399$ price tag was a turn off.

If anyone could direct me in the way of a ride that would have a nice loud/powerful/dark sounding bell but with a crispy/tight (maybe even pingy?) sounding bow and not too much wash buildup that'd be awesome. The best sounding on the sabian sound check I found was HH leopard ride but the store doesn't have it. and I doubt they'd order it for me just to try it.
I'm open to any brands/models. I was thinking maybe some k /k custom ?

[DruMMeR_BoY14]

Try the K custom ride and the K heavy ride, they shouldn't have much ring, they are medium heavy and heavy weighted cymbals, and will have that nice dark tone that you (and me) are looking for. The price will probably be rather step as well, $650 AUS for the K custom ride, but that thing is worth every cent.

I just bought a pair of 14" New Beat high hats, so i'm fairly broke agian, but for my next upgrade i'm thinking about a new china. Looking for something trashy, fairly fast (not like my B8 chian which rings for ages) and bright. I was thinking alogn hte lines of an 18" A china high, 18" Oriental china trash and just for fun a K/K Custom 17" dark china. If anyone else can give me some suggestions feel free to comment (maybe something from the Sabian line?)

[bobby__johnny]

the K Heavy Would be a good one to look into....perhaps its Hand Hammered Counterpart....and maybe even the HH Rock ride?

[Plan B.]

Check out the AAX China's DruMMeR_BoY14.

[mike03100]

I am looking for good zildjing hi-hats 100-250 CND For rock and other music is the 13" A MASTERSOUND HIHATS good?

[bobby__johnny]

check the New beats first.

[Joseph_Yamaha_SCA]

Today i am going to pick me up either another crash or china. havent decided yet. Right now i have a 18 A Custom, and a 16 A custom Fast. I picked up a 10" a custom splash yesterday as well as new heads for everything. I had a china back in the day and never really used it so i am leaning towards a 17 A Custom or 17 A. What do you guys think about getting another crash or should i get a China, if so What do you guys Recommend. that would go with what i currently have. Thanks
The Cymbals i have now are

18 A custom
16 A Custom Fast
10 A custom Splash
21 A Sweet Ride
14" New Beats.

[Win A Rabbit]

i need a new ride and new hats. right now i have those in b8s, with an 18 aax crash and a 17 aa metal x crash. thats the general sound im looking for. for hats, i want a good crisp chick when closed, and some controlled (don't really know the word to describe) wash. for the ride, i want kind of like a 60 ping/40 wash, or maybe 70/30. mostly ping with a bit of wash. what should i look for?

edit : i generally like the samples i hear of 13" hats, but i dont know if thats how they actually sound, because my cymbals sound nothing like the samples on those websites too.

[poppinfresh]

hehe go for the 24 in giant beats the ping is always there with the most beautiful wash but theyre kinda warm so theres none of that high pitched ping.

[The Fiction We Live]

After being a Zildjian A Custom whore for the past few years I finally sampled the Paiste Signature Cymbals. I now want to replace my current setup with Paistes (love at first listen).

I'll be going to a music shop to listen to a lot of them, but I was wondering if you guys can help me go in there with a little bit of a background.

I am interested in the signiture series to replace:

(All A Customs)

18" Fast Crash
16" Projection Crash
12" Splash
14" Mastersound Hi-hats
20" Ping Ride
18" China

I would like to add one other crash when I upgrade.

Any suggestions to try out or a list would be greatly appreciated!!

Thanks in advance.

PS: Once again I have no background on Paiste due to my ignorance. :(

[poppinfresh]

after going to the paiste cymbal expo, i have decided to add a paiste 17 fast crash to my paiste 18 in full and fast crashes. They would make an excellent group of cymbals. The fast and full crashes i have now make a great pair. The full is higher pitched while that fast has a mellower lower pitch. My favorite is the fast. Definetly check ouy the 14 in paiste sig soundedges they are incredible hats. The giant beats are pretty nice also they have a smooth mellow sound so check those out. The chinas havent really impressed me a sig dry crisp ride would be nice.i really loved the sig mk1 splashes.

so the list would be
18in fast
18in full
17in fast(if you want to get more crashes)
14in soundedges
20 dry crisp
10 or 12 mk 1 splash

[The Fiction We Live]

Thanks poppinfresh! I'll definitely check those out.

[DruMMeR_BoY14]

i need a new ride and new hats. right now i have those in b8s, with an 18 aax crash and a 17 aa metal x crash. thats the general sound im looking for. for hats, i want a good crisp chick when closed, and some controlled (don't really know the word to describe) wash. for the ride, i want kind of like a 60 ping/40 wash, or maybe 70/30. mostly ping with a bit of wash. what should i look for?

edit : i generally like the samples i hear of 13" hats, but i dont know if thats how they actually sound, because my cymbals sound nothing like the samples on those websites too.

If you are looking at Zildjian check out the A Ping ride, it sounds like what your looking for, good ping sound with pretty good wash. Hats try A Quick Beats or A New Beats, IMO hte quickbeats are more crisper than then New Beats but the New Beats have more of the controled wash you want.

My knowledge of Sabian is fairly limited, but perhaps try XCelerator hats, wouldn't a clue on rides lol. One for Bobby.

[bobby__johnny]

i want a good crisp chick when closed, and some controlled (don't really know the word to describe) wash. for the ride, i want kind of like a 60 ping/40 wash, or maybe 70/30. mostly ping with a bit of wash. what should i look for?

AAX Stage hats, and try the Medium hevy and Heavy rides....AA, Hand Hammered...your call really...AA for bright.

[Cobalt]

What would be good, versatile ride and crash cymbals that would sound good with zildjian new beat hi hats in the $100 - $200 range?

[Queen Anne's Revenge]

Bobby:

Do you think the 20" AA Medium Ride would make a suitable large crash?
Any other lines I should like at for something along those lines?

[stevoibanez]

Cobalt: I would say A custom crashes, not too familiar with rides though.

[poppinfresh]

Bobby:

Do you think the 20" AA Medium Ride would make a suitable large crash?
Any other lines I should like at for something along those lines?
21 in A custom sweeet ride makes a nice crash.

[stevoibanez]

Bobby:

Do you think the 20" AA Medium Ride would make a suitable large crash?
Any other lines I should like at for something along those lines?

I swear to God, the 20" AAX stage ride has the best crash ever. Seriously. Try it out. I would even consider getting one just as a crash, not a ride.

[poppinfresh]

no seet ride has a better crash

[Cobalt]

Thank you stevoibanez, I'll remember to check those out!

[poppinfresh]

no, definetley try the 21 sweet ride it was made for crashing(not sure but it sounds like it was made with crashing in mind)

[stevoibanez]

^^ I'll have to try one out sometime.

[Epiphender]

What are wavy bottom hi-hat cymbals for? Do they make the "chick" more pronounced?

Also do they crack more easily if the bottom is wavy? A guy on musiciansfriend said he went through two or three pairs of 2002 Sound edge hats in a year because of cracking.

[stevoibanez]

^^ He must have ****ty technique
Wavy edges reduce airlock (in other words, suction, when you close your hats then open them, they kinda stay together?). I think they are also faster and more precise than regular hats

[bobby__johnny]

Bobby:

Do you think the 20" AA Medium Ride would make a suitable large crash?
Any other lines I should like at for something along those lines?

how about looking at large crashes? a 20" AA Medium CRASH perhaps?

[Rent the Devil]

Whats about the smallest ride u can get?

I'm relatively new to drums, so I'm getting a ride now,
i play from rock to blues, so i'd need one that can cover
many sounds, could I have some advice please..

[DruMMeR_BoY14]

Well unless you custom order one, 18" is the smallest ride you can get.

[Rent the Devil]

thanx

[bobby__johnny]

Whats about the smallest ride u can get?

I'm relatively new to drums, so I'm getting a ride now,
i play from rock to blues, so i'd need one that can cover
many sounds, could I have some advice please..

if your somewhat new to drums, and dont know what your looking for, look into a medium weight 20" ride.

[thatdrummerguy]

I want a mid-low priced crash that makes a dark, but not too dark and long sound.

[thatdrummerguy]

I mostly play rock and metal.

[Seafroggys]

Wuhans! Or a 100 year old B8 cymbal!

[stevoibanez]

Depending on what you consider low, I would look into AAX dark crash.

[thatdrummerguy]

between 50 and 140 bucks

[thatdrummerguy]

cool i looked em up. thanks guys

[stevoibanez]

^^You could prob get a 16" AAX dark crash

[thatdrummerguy]

:) thanks

[bonney44]

which do you recommend out of the aax stage, vault or paragon (all 16")?
I play mainly punk music and which would complement a 18" aa medium crash

[aywkubt_tod]

Hi Guys, first post woohoo!!
Looking for a crash to tone-match into my setup as to replace my stagg.
I play a mixture of music; hardcore/metal/jazz/low-volume.

I have:

14" Zildjian Hi-Hats
18" Crash-Ride
16" Zildjian K-Custom Special Dry
18" Stagg Medium
20" Paiste Dimensions Medium Raw
8/10/12" Wuhan Splashes
16" Paiste Alpha China
15" China

[Mars Ulrich]

hey guys,

im looking to add a china to my kit but i dont really know much about them. i play most styles but focus mainly on rock/metal and sometimes punk, any suggestions as to what brands are good and what sizes i should be looking at appreciated,

thanks,

tom.

[aywkubt_tod]

hey guys,

im looking to add a china to my kit but i dont really know much about them. i play most styles but focus mainly on rock/metal and sometimes punk, any suggestions as to what brands are good and what sizes i should be looking at appreciated,

thanks,

tom.

I own a paiste alpha 16" medium-heavy china thats good for both heavy and not so heavy music. i rate 'em.

[Mars Ulrich]

whats the usual price range for a cymbal like that?

[Tim]

which do you recommend out of the aax stage, vault or paragon (all 16")?
I play mainly punk music and which would complement a 18" aa medium crash


well since youre playing mostly punk i wouldnt get the paragon. Id stick with the vault or the stage. I have the 16inch stage and i love it.

[stevoibanez]

im looking to add a china to my kit but i dont really know much about them. i play most styles but focus mainly on rock/metal and sometimes punk, any suggestions as to what brands are good and what sizes i should be looking at appreciated
Wuhan 18"
AAXtreme 19"
AA china 18"

[Tim]

Wuhan 18"
AAXtreme 19"
AA china 18"

i have an 18inch AA chinese. its awesome.

[boss]

How do the 13" HHX groove hats compare to the 14" AAX stage hats?
Like what music would each be suitable for, which has a nicer "tssss" you could say, better stick definition, stuff like that?

Please none of "go to the store and try yourself" because if i wouldve done that then i wouldn't have posted this. I'm just interested in everyone's opinion

[thatdrummerguy]

Whats a good main cymbal for rock/metal. With very little washiness

[Tim]

Whats a good main cymbal for rock/metal. With very little washiness

try some AAXplosions.

[drummer630]

ok ill just explain what im looking for in a cymbal... i want a sound that is fast it ends in a hurry and isnt carried on very long but i want it to be loud and i dont want it to sound like someone is choking it i want some flavour to the hit...i need a ride and a crash the ride should have a great sounding kind of low ping from the bell and still be able to be heard over guitars and bass and whatnot i also need 2 splash cymbals that have a crashy sound and not a doingy sound can anyone help me out.... i would like the crash to be about 15 or 16" max and the ride size doesnt matter then the splash cymbals 10" or under any help would be greatly appreciated

[DruMMeR_BoY14]

if you want a low sound get a bigger sized ride, 22"+. Perhaps a big K heavy ride? Also look into an A deep ride or A ping, all traditonal finish.

Splashes - check out the 10" Stagg Myra splash, I love this splash, short splashy and a good pitch, not a *ping*. You basicly described it yourself lol.

[bobby__johnny]

which do you recommend out of the aax stage, vault or paragon (all 16")?
I play mainly punk music and which would complement a 18" aa medium crash

of those 3, get the Paragon....personally, get a 16" AA Medium. it would complement it the best,and be fairly durable in your punk....they Stage and vault i would not reccomend for Punk.

How do the 13" HHX groove hats compare to the 14" AAX stage hats?
Like what music would each be suitable for, which has a nicer "tssss" you could say, better stick definition, stuff like that?

if your looking for something with deffinition and sizzle, get the Grooves in a 14" Paring. the 13" would be a bit more sharper and articulate...you seem to be describing something a little more fuller sounding than that.

Whats a good main cymbal for rock/metal. With very little washiness

can you be a little more specific....like on weather you want a ride or crash.....:confused:

[thatdrummerguy]

can you be a little more specific....like on weather you want a ride or crash.....:confused:[/QUOTE]


a crash

[thatdrummerguy]

preferrably sabian

[aywkubt_tod]

Looking for a crash to tone-match into my setup as to replace my stagg.
I play a mixture of music; hardcore/metal/jazz/low-volume.

I have:

14" Zildjian Hi-Hats
18" Crash-Ride
16" Zildjian K-Custom Special Dry
18" Stagg Medium
20" Paiste Dimensions Medium Raw
8/10/12" Wuhan Splashes
16" Paiste Alpha China
15" China

Sorry to top my own post, but i think it got overlooked.
I went and tried a few crashes today, (17s and 18s) and the didnt really grab me..
None of the staggs, sabians or Ufips tickled my fancy. Ks were alright, but .. not sure

[Retarded Chipple]

I desperatly need to upgrade my Paiste 302s and was wondering wheather Sabian Pro Sonix are worth testing out as they're really cheap. Are they mid-range or low end cymbals? Any other suggestions for mid-range cymbals like Paiste Alphas. Open to all brands. Thanks.

[Retarded Chipple]

^^^I play punk/ska/hardcore in my band so I want some cymbals that would go with that style of music.

[stevoibanez]

Sonix are very bright, so they should be good. Also, if you can, step up to AA. Not a huge step in price between them and PoSonix, and they are amzing cymbals.

[Retarded Chipple]

Thanks man, what would be the equivilant to the Sonix in Paiste and Zildjian?

[stevoibanez]

Sonix, are considered intermediate, and IMO Zildjian doesn't offer an intermediate line. The closest would prob be ZXT. For Paiste I would say Alpha or maybe Dimensions, if you can still find some.

[bobby__johnny]

The Alpha's are the same idea of the Pro/Sonix line...but the cool thing about the Sonix, comes into the mixer play.....you mic those things just right and you can pull all kinds of tones through them on your mix

[Retarded Chipple]

Cool, thanks guys. I found a set of Pro Sonix consisting of 14" hi hats, 16" crash and 20" ride all for £160 which works out at about $280 American which sounded like a pretty good deal.

Also, I use nylon tips, will they leave loads of marks on Sabians? I was just wondering because Sabians aren't made with that protective covering like Paistes (which stay clean forever :p ) and I obviously want my new cymbals to stay looking new.

[stevoibanez]

Cool, thanks guys. I found a set of Pro Sonix consisting of 14" hi hats, 16" crash and 20" ride all for £160 which works out at about $280 American which sounded like a pretty good deal

That is a very good deal actually. They are probably cheaper cause there "discontinued". I say go for it.

And I find that Sabians dont mark up a lot. The only line that I find gets marks a lot quicker is xs20. Must be something in the finish.

[MXicanDrummer]

Ok, I've posted this many times before, but it's never been answered. My dream cymbal set up so far is
14in. Zildjian A New Beats
16in. Sabian AAX Studio Crash
17in. Sabian AAX Stage Crash
18in. Zildjian A Medium Crash

Now, in your opinion, which ride would go well with this setup. I am looking into an Zildjian A Ping Ride but I'd like a second opinion.

[aywkubt_tod]

Ok, I've posted this many times before, but it's never been answered. My dream cymbal set up so far is
14in. Zildjian A New Beats
16in. Sabian AAX Studio Crash
17in. Sabian AAX Stage Crash
18in. Zildjian A Medium Crash

Now, in your opinion, which ride would go well with this setup. I am looking into an Zildjian A Ping Ride but I'd like a second opinion.

i suggest a 20" Zildjian A Sweet Ride, they awsome, plus set up high they're good for crashing if you want low tones crash sounds as accents

[stevoibanez]

That setup looks to be all about versatility. I would suggest looking into AAX stage ride.

[bobby__johnny]

Cool, thanks guys. I found a set of Pro Sonix consisting of 14" hi hats, 16" crash and 20" ride all for £160 which works out at about $280 American which sounded like a pretty good deal.

Also, I use nylon tips, will they leave loads of marks on Sabians? I was just wondering because Sabians aren't made with that protective covering like Paistes (which stay clean forever :p ) and I obviously want my new cymbals to stay looking new.


thats not a bad deal....as for the nylons, only on your ride, and your hats if you tip them a lot....nothing some cymbal cleaner would'nt fix though....but the brilliant finish will show em a bit more.

[zildjian1992]

I would like an 18'' crash, dont care what company, but prefferably sabian or Zildjian. i dont want the crash too loud, and it needs to fit with a 16" Zildjian A Custom Crash. I also dont want to have too whack it super hard to get decent tones from it.

[DruMMeR_BoY14]

18" A Custom Crash
18" A Medium-Thin Crash

[zildjian1992]

Thanks a lot! :thumb: :)

[bobby__johnny]

I would like an 18'' crash, dont care what company, but prefferably sabian or Zildjian. i dont want the crash too loud, and it needs to fit with a 16" Zildjian A Custom Crash. I also dont want to have too whack it super hard to get decent tones from it.

definatly the A Medium-thin....but if you arent too hard on your cymbals, look into the A. Zildjian Thin Crash

[stabbinspaghetti]

can anyone tell me what/how the paiste rude series hi hats sound, better than that how that whole series sounds, i cannot find any sound bytes of that series anywhere?

[bobby__johnny]

bright, loud, and cutting sums it up nicely.

[stabbinspaghetti]

would you use them?

[bobby__johnny]

myself, no.

[Gawn]

I don't know if any of you listen to Slayer, but Dave Lomardo used this cymbal on the South of Heaven album and I really want one, but I can't figure out what it is. It might be a chinese splash because it sounds like a very high pitched china when it's stuck, but it has a splashy decay. I've heard Lars Ulrich use something similar on The Shortest Straw.

[bobby__johnny]

could be a smaller china...16" or less.

[Tim]

im looking for a new ride cymbal thats in the price range of about $200. I want something thats heavy of course, something with a good sized bell on it and is versatile in all types of music(well a lot of music) like hardcore, rock, punk, alternative, and stuff like that. 20inch of course. and umm thats it. thanks.

oh yea and mixes good with AAXplosion and Stage crashes as well as a AA chinese.

and no im not a brand whore so it doesnt matter what brand its from(and dont be stupid and put something from camber lol)

[aywkubt_tod]

im looking for a new ride cymbal thats in the price range of about $200. I want something thats heavy of course, something with a good sized bell on it and is versatile in all types of music(well a lot of music) like hardcore, rock, punk, alternative, and stuff like that. 20inch of course. and umm thats it. thanks.

oh yea and mixes good with AAXplosion and Stage crashes as well as a AA chinese.

and no im not a brand whore so it doesnt matter what brand its from(and dont be stupid and put something from camber lol)


what about a peavey ride? hah..

i'd go with a 20" Paiste Alpha Medium Ride for that price range, all paiste rides are beautiful and alphas are the more affordable ones IMO

[bobby__johnny]

im looking for a new ride cymbal thats in the price range of about $200. I want something thats heavy of course, something with a good sized bell on it and is versatile in all types of music(well a lot of music) like hardcore, rock, punk, alternative, and stuff like that. 20inch of course. and umm thats it. thanks.

oh yea and mixes good with AAXplosion and Stage crashes as well as a AA chinese.

and no im not a brand whore so it doesnt matter what brand its from(and dont be stupid and put something from camber lol)

look into the AA Medium and Rock rides....both are good, the Rock ride has more deinfintion and presence, but the Medium would be more versatile overall.

[Tim]

coo coo. ill check them all out. thanks a lot.

[JamesXKillXyou]

hey guys! I play the new age Hardcore/Metal scene based stuff. But I do like to kick back with some solid rock rythms as well.

Im fond of Zildj. What can you point me towards? Im wanting something that gives a nice heavy sound for it but is fast too. I was looking at the fast crashes and the projective A series. For a Ride I would like more of a Crash/ride. Ive heard A series medium rides are nice. And for Hi hats Im kinda lost.

thx! I dont want obnoxiously loud cymbals I want something that will cut through with definition but still maintain a tough sound for the hxc/metal.

[Dr.Who]

OK guys I play mostly metal hardcore. Just faster music but i also like to play some jazzish grooves. I have the sabian b8 set up * shakes head * And i want to start up grading to Zildjian 14 inch A custon hats, two a 17 and 16 inch fast crashes a Z custon 21 inch megga ride bell . and a 18 z custon med. crash some help on what u think and if someone could find me a deal on these on the web ne wear i will shower you with kisses. ( not really) but thanks guys!

[bobby__johnny]

hey guys! I play the new age Hardcore/Metal scene based stuff. But I do like to kick back with some solid rock rythms as well.

Im fond of Zildj. What can you point me towards? Im wanting something that gives a nice heavy sound for it but is fast too. I was looking at the fast crashes and the projective A series. For a Ride I would like more of a Crash/ride. Ive heard A series medium rides are nice. And for Hi hats Im kinda lost.

thx! I dont want obnoxiously loud cymbals I want something that will cut through with definition but still maintain a tough sound for the hxc/metal.

definatly go with the medium ride....20" or so.

Crashes, definatly look into the no Thinner than the medium crashes...A or A custom

as for hats, never can go wrong with new beats.

OK guys I play mostly metal hardcore. Just faster music but i also like to play some jazzish grooves. I have the sabian b8 set up * shakes head * And i want to start up grading to Zildjian 14 inch A custon hats, two a 17 and 16 inch fast crashes a Z custon 21 inch megga ride bell . and a 18 z custon med. crash some help on what u think and if someone could find me a deal on these on the web ne wear i will shower you with kisses. ( not really) but thanks guys!

stay away from the Z customs. look into A Zildjian Rock Crashes/rides if you need the durability....everything else looks good though.

...actually, dont bother with the fast crashes either. in your genre, they'll crack up easily...look into the A Custom Projection or Medium crashes if anything.

[DruMMeR_BoY14]

hey guys! I play the new age Hardcore/Metal scene based stuff. But I do like to kick back with some solid rock rythms as well.

Im fond of Zildj. What can you point me towards? Im wanting something that gives a nice heavy sound for it but is fast too. I was looking at the fast crashes and the projective A series. For a Ride I would like more of a Crash/ride. Ive heard A series medium rides are nice. And for Hi hats Im kinda lost.

thx! I dont want obnoxiously loud cymbals I want something that will cut through with definition but still maintain a tough sound for the hxc/metal.

Every single drummer I see who plays in a hardcore band have cracked Z customs, how ****ign hard do they hit them?

A Rock Crash, Z Custom Medium Crash, A Custom Medium Crash.

[Murd_666]

jamesXkillXyou- also look into sabian, crashes-AA Mediums/rocks, HH Mediums/rocks,
RIDE- AA medium, 20" AA craash ride, AAX Stage ride, hats AAX stage hats

[geeseks]

Hi guys! Can anybody explain to me the differences between a ride cymbal and a crash-ride?

I'm currently experimenting with using a normal 17" crash instead of the ride cymbal but the sound always ends up as a continous crashing sound (ok i'm not very good at putting this into words) so I'm wondering if getting a crash-ride would be the solution :rolleyes:

[Tim]

Hi guys! Can anybody explain to me the differences between a ride cymbal and a crash-ride?

I'm currently experimenting with using a normal 17" crash instead of the ride cymbal but the sound always ends up as a continous crashing sound (ok i'm not very good at putting this into words) so I'm wondering if getting a crash-ride would be the solution :rolleyes:

crash=a crash and a crash/ride= a big *** cymbal that isnt worth gettign because usually they are so freakin heavy an the sound from them sucks. its supposed to be light enough to crash on and heavy enoughj to ride on but it sucks,

[DruMMeR_BoY14]

Yeha crash rides are not relaly worth getting, if you want a cymbal you can both ride and crash on, get a ride no hevier than medium weight, the edges usally have a pretty decent crash sound and you can stil ride on them.

[Seafroggys]

Or you could get Rudes....I don't think they come in crashes.

[stevoibanez]

Ok, so I just got my new cymbals, but I need another pair of crashes. I want them warm and dark, to contrast with my AAXplosions. I was thinking 18" sig Saturation crash, and a 18" HHX stage crash. Would these two blend well together? And what thickness is the Saturation crash?

[geeseks]

doh. thanks for the tip. luckily i haven't bought a crash ride yet :D

[hyperdrummer]

k...umm i was looking and i cant decide between the zildjian a custom pack(20" medium ride, 16" medium-thin crash, and 14" hats) or the a classic pack(16"medium-thin crash, 20" medium ride, and 14" new beat hi hats)....or should i just get an entirely different cymbal pack?(...yea i dont want to get em one by one, id prefer to get a pack...)

[stevoibanez]

^^ the classic pack looks good. But I would suggest a AAX stage pack.

And seriously reconsider the "pack" thing. If its because of the price, you can get the same sizes and the same line for the same price as the pack

[hyperdrummer]

k ill look into the AAX stage pack...thnx for the help

[hyperdrummer]

o and if i do buy my cymbals one at a time...any suggestions? (only looking for hats a crash and a ride right now)

[stevoibanez]

Depends on what sound you want.
I suggest AAXcelerator hats, or AAX fast hats.
AAXplosion crashes. Really versatile. You can use them to play softer stuff, but they also explode when you lay into them a bit.
The stage ride is really nice. Also the AA medium ride

[Chrysler]

Can someone give me a list of about 5 decent rides for rock/alternative please. Im going to Birmingham Drum Centre and im going to test alot of them, but I want a few tips on ones you have and like/dont like from personal experience. :thumb:

[BradDawg]

Help with set up please.

Currently I have:

14" AAX Stage Hats
18" Vault Crash
19" AAXplosion Crash
19" Paragon China
22" Paragon Ride

I am looking to buy 2 more crashes and 2 splashes(Sabians), i know im a brand whore.

For the Crashes I was looking at getting a 17" Vault and a 17" AAXplosion.

For the splashes I wanted to choose between the 8 and 10 paragons, 10 and 12 evolutions, and the 9 and 11 max splashes.

If anyone could offer some insight on making some key cymbal choices it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

[Tim]

Help with set up please.

Currently I have:

14" AAX Stage Hats
18" Vault Crash
19" AAXplosion Crash
19" Paragon China
22" Paragon Ride

I am looking to buy 2 more crashes and 2 splashes(Sabians), i know im a brand whore.

For the Crashes I was looking at getting a 17" Vault and a 17" AAXplosion.

For the splashes I wanted to choose between the 8 and 10 paragons, 10 and 12 evolutions, and the 9 and 11 max splashes.

If anyone could offer some insight on making some key cymbal choices it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.


try a 17inch stage crash.

[bobby__johnny]

Help with set up please.

Currently I have:

14" AAX Stage Hats
18" Vault Crash
19" AAXplosion Crash
19" Paragon China
22" Paragon Ride

I am looking to buy 2 more crashes and 2 splashes(Sabians), i know im a brand whore.

For the Crashes I was looking at getting a 17" Vault and a 17" AAXplosion.

For the splashes I wanted to choose between the 8 and 10 paragons, 10 and 12 evolutions, and the 9 and 11 max splashes.

If anyone could offer some insight on making some key cymbal choices it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

you need some dark sounds in there....17" HHX Stage Crash and an 18" Hand Hammered Medium Crash :thumb:

splashes? 10" and 12" AAX Splashes...best next thing to the Max Splashes....and cheaper.

[Troy9915]

What sound characteristics do the Sabian AAX series cymbals have? I might get the performance pack but I'm not sure about the sound.

[Tim]

AAX series are bright cymbals. they are loud in all volumes of music, but can also be played in softer music and still sound really good. they dont get distorted in high volumes....(my fav feature). They are a versatile cymbal. Id recommend them. Especially the stage crash.

[bobby__johnny]

basicially, they are a little more focused and controllable than the AA's, but the AA's will have a more energetic sound to them.

[Joseph_Yamaha_SCA]

the zxt trashformer.. any of you get a chance to use it or hear it in person? thanks

[Tim]

the zxt trashformer.. any of you get a chance to use it or hear it in person? thanks

jsut pick up a metal garbage lid from home depot or something.

[stevoibanez]

^^ not very good on it's own IMO. Sounds kinda bland. You should stack it on a crash. And I've heard bad stories about them cracking prematurely.

[bobby__johnny]

the fact that they are not ound would make me thing zildjian should rethink the idea.

you can find trashy round cymbals anywhere....i beleive the unroundedness allows for uneven dispersal of vibration which would cause cracking.

[[Fonya]]

Whats a nice pingy ride in the AA or AAX line?

[bobby__johnny]

AA Rock ride would be the best choice....other than that, my AAX Dry ride is fairly pingy.

Ultimate ping? AAX Metal ride...but its as versatile as a Z Custom

[[Fonya]]

Ya I still want versitle. What about the medium-heavy ride you suggested in my thread. How does that sound?

[ZaknafeinLudwig]

Hey does anybody know how much guitar center buys cymbals for i have a set of B8's that i would like to get rid of. Thanks

[bobby__johnny]

Ya I still want versitle. What about the medium-heavy ride you suggested in my thread. How does that sound?

it'll be a bit more defined and tighter than the medium ride, but will sound a bit more pleasant than the rock ride.

Hey does anybody know how much guitar center buys cymbals for i have a set of B8's that i would like to get rid of. Thanks

they probably will, but dont expect much form them...you'd be better off selling privately.

[Tim]

Hey does anybody know how much guitar center buys cymbals for i have a set of B8's that i would like to get rid of. Thanks

wont get much for them. you might as well keep them or sell them but not to a place that buys them, youll get jipped. put them on ebay or something. or just put up a classifieds add.

[bobby__johnny]

^^^

yes...thanks for pretty much repeating what i said.

[stevoibanez]

^^ Dont GC give 2$ an inch? That might be more than he could get selling on ebay.

[Matter]

Sup felluz...In the near future I will be able to have both my kits up, my DW collector and Mapex Oroin series classic, teh only prob being I only have one set of cymbals...my Paistes. Now I fairly picky when it comes to cymbals...I usually don't don't like sabians...but I am really interested in thier Evolution series with weckl. I own the ozone crash and the effeckz crash...I've played a few of the crashes and really really liked them. Now before I have to drive for god knows how many hours to find a place I can test out a few others...

Have any of you any experience with them, hats, splashes, rides and such, are they alll sonically the same to the crashes??? thanks in advance.

[stevoibanez]

They are good cymbals. Not my style, but they sound pretty nice.

If you like Paiste, look into Meinl. If I'm not mistaken, they resemble Paiste in sound.

[bobby__johnny]

the evos all revolve around that concept of VERY sensitve respose meshed with warm tones....having said that, they are all quite thin...save for the hats, which is your normal medium/heavy pairing.

also, it wouldnt be a bad idea to look into the rest of the HHX line too.

[nangostino]

hello, i'm upgrading my drum kit in the next few weeks and chances are that the new one will be a shell pack so i am going to have to start fresh with the cymbals, i've been looking at several "packs" of hi-hats and crash/ride combos. Can anyone recommend a good one to go for?
thanks
nango

[aywkubt_tod]

hello, i'm upgrading my drum kit in the next few weeks and chances are that the new one will be a shell pack so i am going to have to start fresh with the cymbals, i've been looking at several "packs" of hi-hats and crash/ride combos. Can anyone recommend a good one to go for?
thanks
nango

what's you budget?
if you have cymbals i'd suggest saving and not buying packs, but thats me

[TheClash6412]

i would not go with a crash/ride cymbal, you're better off with a seperate crash and ride

[bobby__johnny]

budget please?

[Seafroggys]

If he's looking at packs w/ crash-rides, his budget it probably low.

Anyway, I'll suggest K Constanioples.

[Tim]

If he's looking at packs w/ crash-rides, his budget it probably low.

Anyway, I'll suggest K Constanioples.


ha for low budget?

[Seafroggys]

Yes, it was obvious I was being serious :rolleyes:

[Tim]

Yes, it was obvious I was being serious :rolleyes:

werd. :)

[nangostino]

what's you budget?
if you have cymbals i'd suggest saving and not buying packs, but thats me

Sorry guys i meant crash and ride cymbals was just being lazy have been looking at anything between £100 and 250 Zildjian ZBT etc...
I am selling my current set with cymbals so am starting fresh
thanks

[bobby__johnny]

If he's looking at packs w/ crash-rides, his budget it probably low.

Anyway, I'll suggest K Constanioples.

there are crash rides made in AA, Hand Hammered, and K Zidjian to name a few...

[Seafroggys]

Sorry guys i meant crash and ride cymbals was just being lazy have been looking at anything between £100 and 250 Zildjian ZBT etc...
I am selling my current set with cymbals so am starting fresh
thanks

I'm not sure how much things cost over there, but I'd recommend something better like Sabian B8s, or maybe even Paiste PST5s, etc....

[Senseless Apprentice]

I just bought a 21" A Custom Projection Ride. I used to own a ZBT. I am having trouble adjusting to the A. It seems like I can't get very much sound out of it. Maybe the ZBT had more wash to it, hence gave it a fuller sound. I guess I'm looking for some ride suggestions. I'm going to guitar center tomorrow to try some out; any suggestions I should pay special attention to? Maybe something with a LITTLE bit more wash than the A Custom Projection?
Thanks

[DruMMeR_BoY14]

i thought an a projeciton ride woudl give almost too much wash....

anywho try an A ping ride, I have a 20" model and it has a lot of undertones. Maybe try an A rock ride as well. If your still not satsified, perhaps a Z 22" mega bell ride will have that full sound your after :p

[stevoibanez]

^^ they dont make it in 22 inch, only 21

[DruMMeR_BoY14]

Ah I'm thinking of the power ride.

[aznriceball]

I just bought a 21" A Custom Projection Ride. I used to own a ZBT. I am having trouble adjusting to the A. It seems like I can't get very much sound out of it. Maybe the ZBT had more wash to it, hence gave it a fuller sound. I guess I'm looking for some ride suggestions. I'm going to guitar center tomorrow to try some out; any suggestions I should pay special attention to? Maybe something with a LITTLE bit more wash than the A Custom Projection?
Thanks

the 20" one was a bit bright for me :p could always try that mega bell Z custom ride but..egh

[Matter]

>Well felluz<.... The sabian evolution line doesn't have all the cymbals I want or need for my ideal setup...I've played most of the sabian paragons and I really really like them all...now the music store right down the street has a new complete paragon set and will match any price I can find...I've found few deals just wondering if you guys have come across a realy good bargin on the complete set???thanxorz

[bobby__johnny]

www.massmusic.net. probably the cheapest place on the net

[Bullet for My Valentine]

hey this is a bit of subject but do u guys kno if the zildjian platiniums are any good ive been offered one( 14" crash) for a set price but i dunn owhether to accept the offer or go for a titanium
help would be appreciated x

[Tim]

hey this is a bit of subject but do u guys kno if the zildjian platiniums are any good ive been offered one( 14" crash) for a set price but i dunn owhether to accept the offer or go for a titanium
help would be appreciated x

platinum? dont you mean titanium? titanium sucks. never heard of platinum but it probably sucks.

[Bullet for My Valentine]

platinum? dont you mean titanium? titanium sucks. never heard of platinum but it probably sucks.

thanks lol :thumb: im quite poor so titanium are quite high up on the scale for me...i currenlty hvae paiste 101s and zildjian zxts n im lookin to add another crash n a crash ride and cheap suggestions? cheers

[Tim]

for the price of titaniums you can get something way better. shop around. seeign how you dont have hte grestest of cymbals. id say scratch the crash/ride off of your list for now. then get you some good hi-hats, ride and crash.

[Bullet for My Valentine]

for the price of titaniums you can get something way better. shop around. seeign how you dont have hte grestest of cymbals. id say scratch the crash/ride off of your list for now. then get you some good hi-hats, ride and crash.
its lucky i gt the pros like u to talk to :p wt cymbals u play wit ?

[bobby__johnny]

the platinums kick *** over the Titaniums.

the platinums are specially finished A Zildjians....good stuff

[Tim]

its lucky i gt the pros like u to talk to :p wt cymbals u play wit ?

i play sabian 18inch AAXplosion crash, AAX 16 inch Stage crash, 18 Inch AA chinese, paiste 502 ride<<the bell on that is awesome, and i got crappy zildjian zxt hats right now but they were free when i got them, im soon replacing with either AAX stage hats or Zildjian New beats.

[Seafroggys]

the platinums kick *** over the Titaniums.

the platinums are specially finished A Zildjians....good stuff

Oh hell yeah. my school had a pair of platinum new beats, best hats I've ever played on.

[red n black]

hi, everyone. . just a small question

I know both suck and I'm not planning on buying one.

But what line is considered higher level, ZBT or ZXT???

sorry, I didn't want to make a thread about it.

[Tim]

zxt is supposed to be the higher one.

[bobby__johnny]

ZXt of those two....B8's over both.

[yummyramen]

umm... i have a Ludwig Set. It has a 18x22 bass, 14 snare, 9x12 and 10x13 toms, and 16x16 floor tom. they are all original heads. And I have 14 hi-hats, 16 thin crash, and a 20 rock ride (all cymbals B8's). What would you guys do to it and aboot how much would it cost? And in which order would you do it? I dont know, i'm only 13 and i dont know how to use a digital camera.

[BradDawg]

Hey guys i was seeing if yall could help me decide if this is a good set up and the sounds will mesh well. I play mainly straight rock but sometimes we can get kinda hardish (mainly when jamming). Any feedback on this set up would be greatly appreciated. Thanks a lot -B.

This is what I have currently:
22” Paragon Ride
19” AAXplosion Crash
19” Paragon China
18” Vault Crash
14” AAX Stage Hats
12” Wuhan Splash on a 12” Wuhan Mini China

This is what i plan on adding:
21” AAX Stage Ride (and can be for a 2nd/Jazz Set)
17” Vault Crash (and can be for a 2nd/Jazz Set)
17” AAXplosion Crash
13” AAX Stage Hats (and can be for a 2nd/Jazz Set)
11” or 9” Max Splash
10” or 8” Paragon Splash

[Seafroggys]

A Sabian fan, aren't we?

[aznriceball]

would like to know if ur a sabian whore first, otherwise id throw A customs at you

[Tim]

would like to know if ur a sabian whore first, otherwise id throw A customs at you

that would hurt. least you arnt throwing z customs at him or rudes at him. ouch.

:naughty:

[red n black]

ZXt of those two....B8's over both.

Are you sure, cuz I'm not talking about sound I'm talking about series.

I thought it was like this:

ZBT = B8
ZXT = B8 Pro

Still, I'm not talking soundwise, I'm talking series-wise (ehh?)

[DruMMeR_BoY14]

Yeah you8are right with the series, but B8's have a much better soudn quality than The ABT's or ZXT's

[bobby__johnny]

B8's are better than both ZXTs or ZBT's....and this is sound quality i'm talking.

[Ethan.]

Whats a ride that would give a good woody sound (do you know what I mean woody?), with medium wash and doesn't have a small bell?

Oh yeah, I would like it to be kind of heavy too, so it feels like I'm actually hitting something and I can bonce my stick on it good.

[red n black]

^^^I have no idea.
But on the Paiste homepage they say that the Giant Beat is Woody

http://www.paiste.com/products/cymbals/giant_beat_multis.php

[bobby__johnny]

Whats a ride that would give a good woody sound (do you know what I mean woody?), with medium wash and doesn't have a small bell?

Oh yeah, I would like it to be kind of heavy too, so it feels like I'm actually hitting something and I can bonce my stick on it good.

Hand Hammered Medium ride :thumb:

[BradDawg]

would like to know if ur a sabian whore first, otherwise id throw A customs at you


Yes i am a Sabian whore, im sorry that just the way it is. I love their sound and everything about them.

But if u could please give me some feedback that would be great.

[stabbinspaghetti]

ok which hats would you choose?? you can listen to all of them at http://www.cymbalsonly.com/

Istanbul
vezir 13"
14" sultan hat
13" empire hats

[Iskandar]

Don't trust sound samples.

[Seafroggys]

I have a woody ride......er.....yeah....

[stabbinspaghetti]

yeah, i know, but its all i can go by, no one carries them where i live

[thatdrummerguy]

I want a ride cymbal that is kinda pingy without much sustain. Preferably Sabian.

[Tim]

aax dry ride maybe

[bobby__johnny]

I want a ride cymbal that is kinda pingy without much sustain. Preferably Sabian.

A Zildjian Ping Ride.

[filth and fury]

hey guys, i don't really know much about cymbals...meaning like the difference between "dark hats" and "new beats" and "mastersounds"..etc etc. but,
I was thinking of this cymbal lineup ( i have zbts now, they're getting cracked and messed up though).

- Zildjian A 18 inch Medium Thin Crash
- Zildjian K Custom 20 inch Ride
- Zildjian K 13 inch Mastersound hats
- Wuhan 10 inch splash (19.99)

I like the way they sound all sound pretty much. I've only been playing a year, and I play some basic funk, latin, jazz, some rock, etc. im not really into that "rock" sound though. Would this be a good lineup?

Basically, i need a ride, crash, hats, and a splash that sound good, don't have that z custom/metal/rock sound, are as affordable as they can be (im only 13, and theres not really much i can do to earn money), and will last me long.

thanks.

[Tim]

- Zildjian A 18 inch Medium Thin Crash
- Zildjian K Custom 20 inch Ride
- Zildjian K 13 inch Mastersound hats
- Wuhan 10 inch splash (19.99)



i think thats a good lineup. except maybe the splash.

[filth and fury]

any other recommendations? i don't want to make the same mistake i did buying the ZBT's :(. the splash is no good? on musiciansfriend it got some good reviews, what other splash do you recommend?

what about some of those cymbals on cymbalsonly.com?
they seem to be cheaper..

[Tim]

i was jsut sayin i think the splash might be a little trashy. if you want that sound then by all means buy it.

[filth and fury]

ooh alright. do you think i could turn my old zbt bottom/top hi hat into a splash kind of thing and mount it to a crash stand? or would that just be ghetto?

what do u think of those cymbals on cymbalsonly.com ..cuz they are a little cheaper than the zildjians.

[Ethan.]

I don't think your high hat would sound like a splash.

[sp1406]

I play rock, im getting a Vault. Which of these would go best with that...Wuhan S Series crash, Meinl MCS Crash, Zildjian ZXT, Sabian XS20

[Tim]

if youre getting a vault dont bother getting any of those then. get the vault but dotn mix it with a zxt for the love of god please dont.

[Iskandar]

yeah, i know, but its all i can go by, no one carries them where i live

I suggest you make an excursion out to a music store. It'll be worth the inconvenience.

[bobby__johnny]

ooh alright. do you think i could turn my old zbt bottom/top hi hat into a splash kind of thing and mount it to a crash stand? or would that just be ghetto?

what do u think of those cymbals on cymbalsonly.com ..cuz they are a little cheaper than the zildjians.

nope. the hi-hat would sound like a very long sustaining crash.

[red n black]

Paiste 602 'sound edge' hihat 15"
K Zildjian Ride 20" 70's, canada era
K Zildjian 13" regular hihat
Paiste 'dark crisp' hihat 14"
Paiste dimensions hihat 13"
Paiste Full ride 20"

These are used and all have good prices, I'm looking for versatility. I'm playing everything from Jazz to Heavy Metal.

[red n black]

Huge. Bump.

[stevoibanez]

^^ bump? this thread is a sticky

[red n black]

^^^ I know but check the time on my posts...

...12 fregin hours and no answer :upset:

[LeD111]

how does a sabian AA dry ride sound when it's crashed?

also what would you guys so about aax x-celerator hats?

[Sultan of Smoothies]

Hi I'm wondering what people think of the 14" AAX Stage Hats. I found a pretty sweet deal and I'm wondering if I should get them.

Thanks,
Sultan

P.S. I currently have B8's so anything is an upgrade...

[Chester]

i command u to buy those 14" stage hats right now
they are one of the most versatile pair of hihats out there, they sound excelent, i own them myself... and u found a sweet deal, UR GOLDEN BABY

[bobby__johnny]

i agree.. buy them...i'm getting mine Friday.

how does a sabian AA dry ride sound when it's crashed?

also what would you guys so about aax x-celerator hats?

i cant say you'd like the dry ride as a crash. as for the hats, i havent actually played a pair myself, but i imagine they'd be similar to Mastersounds/Sound edges etc.

[stevoibanez]

I have the AAXcelerators, and I absolutely love them. tight crisp and articulate when closed, nice and sloshy when half-open. They are pretty bright. They do sound similar to Mastersounds, but really brighter, which is why I chose them over A custom Mastersounds

[red n black]

Paiste 602 'sound edge' hihat 15"
K Zildjian Ride 20" 70's, canada era
K Zildjian 13" regular hihat
Paiste 'dark crisp' hihat 14"
Paiste dimensions hihat 13"
Paiste Full ride 20"

These are used and all have good prices, I'm looking for versatility. I'm playing everything from Jazz to Heavy Metal.

Sorry, but I felt overlooked. Please answer this time.

[bobby__johnny]

ok...i dont quite get it....your looking to buy one or several?

[red n black]

probably one or two pairs of hihats, one ride.

I would like too buy the 602 just because they are 602's, is that stupid???

And I won't be able to test them before I buy them, thats why I'm asking you guys.

[bobby__johnny]

if you REALLY want the 602's, then no one can stop you right?

as for your requirements, the Full ride and the Dark Crisp hats are your best bet.

perhaps that K zildjian ride.....cause cmon, its a Zildjian branded Sabian :lol:

[red n black]

You really like Sabian. hehe

About the 602, I would like too buy cause they are discontinued and old.

Do you have any idea what they would sound like???
Any cymbals I can check out that would sound like them???

[bobby__johnny]

i have no clue as to their character....but likely similar to 2002's or Sigs i beleive.

[Bullet for My Valentine]

hey cymbal dudes....wt are the pro sonix like? would it be worth to choose them over the zxt or zbt ? n wt is the best in thts lower-mid price range? cheers

[stevoibanez]

^^ Hell yes they are better than ZBT and ZBT. They destroy them.

In my experience, they are pretty bright cymbals. They are some of the best intermediate cymbals on the market. And from what I've heard, is you can shape their sound using EQ. Dunno how that works though.

[Bullet for My Valentine]

cheers dude.. u like AX7 they are awesome so rock on bruva...

[Cobalt]

Would this be a good cymbal set?

-14" Sabian AAX stage hats
-17" Sabian AAXplosion crash
-20" Zildjian A Custom Flat top ride

[Tim]

the hats and crash are great choices. dont know about the ride though ive never played on one.

[Seafroggys]

I haven't heard good things about A Custom rides, I'd go with a regular Avedis instead.

[Iskandar]

Would this be a good cymbal set?

-14" Sabian AAX stage hats
-17" Sabian AAXplosion crash
-20" Zildjian A Custom Flat top ride

Flat tops rides aren't recommended for most situations. They're somewhat more restrained than the average ride and don't project as well.

For bright cymbals like Stage Hats and an AAXplosion, I'd suggest a medium-to-heavy weight ride. How about an AAX Dry Ride?

[Cobalt]

Alright, I'll definately try that out. Thank you.

[Tim]

try some AA rides too. AA lien is good with rides.

[Iskandar]

All professional lines have good rides (and some intermediate lines, too). It's the cymbal, not the line.

[stevoibanez]

Bobby, what weight is the Saturation crash?

[Tim]

its medium thin^

[dumbassdrummer]

I'm looking for a 19" crash that I can ride on that is dark. Any suggestions?

[Plan B.]

I believe it's a medium actually.

Thanks, much love.

[Tim]

I believe it's a medium actually.

Thanks, much love.

its medium thin, i just checked the sabian soudn catalog i have right now.

[Tim]

K constantinople crash but its a bit expensive.

*to the 19icnh question

[aywkubt_tod]

I'm getting new h-hats soon, and am tossing up between 13" Zildjian K/Z Dyno Beats, and 14" Ufip Rough Series. I play in two bands, a 4-piece metalcore band, and a jazz trio. which hat's'd fit both bands?

this is a serious post by the way. i read it again and thought it sounded rediculous, but i do infact play in both a metalcore band and a jazz trio. i have a rack setup and just pull out a 3 piece with ride, crash and hats for jazzy-times. i learnt on the Ufips, so im biased towards them, but they're really articulate with sticks.. mm.. what are peoples thoughts?

[bobby__johnny]

Bobby, what weight is the Saturation crash?

medium-thin is what my catalog tells me.

[Plan B.]

It's medium, and damn you all.

Do you think Virgil would settle for just medium thin?! Do you know how hard that guy hits?!

[Tim]

It's medium, and damn you all.

Do you think Virgil would settle for just medium thin?! Do you know how hard that guy hits?!

get over it its medium thin. and i told ya so :D . twice. this being the third. haha. go check the sabian site dude it probably says it there.

[bobby__johnny]

It's medium, and damn you all.

Do you think Virgil would settle for just medium thin?! Do you know how hard that guy hits?!

medium thin man....sorry

[Plan B.]

I refuse to check the Sabian site.

I'll call Virgil on his cell tonight, then we'll see what's up.

[red n black]

Tell him I said Hi.

And ask him if he can join MX.


OR give me his kit.

[Tim]

I refuse to check the Sabian site.

I'll call Virgil on his cell tonight, then we'll see what's up.

yes...we will all see what is up. :D

[Plan B.]

Alright, so here's how the convo went:

Me: Hey Virg, what's up?
Virgil: Hey man! What's up, so great to hear from you, I mean we talk all the time, but still.
M: I know, I know what you mean. We're so sweet.
V: I was listening to some of your playing today, and HOLY CRAP, I was blown away.
M: Really? Thanks alot, I mean it was just some old tapes I had laying around. You know.
V: Yeah, that's awesome.
M: Yeah I know.
V: So, what'd you call for?
M: Well, some people on MX were like "Virgil's crashes are Medium-Thin" and I was like, what the frick? No way, and I said I'd call you to see what is true.
V: Tell 'em they should know better, I never play anything under Medium weight! Do they have any idea how hard I hit?!
M: Yeah I know, clearly they don't. That's what I said too.
V: Anyway, I gotta go watch some movies.
M: Sweet dude, I'll talk to you about some endorsements later, peace bro!
V: Later!

[bobby__johnny]

....:upset:

you just wont accept it will you?

[stabbinspaghetti]

Tell him I said Hi.

And ask him if he can join MX.


OR give me his kit.

and you called me greedy?!? hah

[stevoibanez]

Actually Plan B, I checked my Sabian Catalogue and it's a medium-thin.

[Plan B.]

Whatever, I don't care. Take it up with Virgil if you want to.

[aywkubt_tod]

I'm getting new h-hats soon, and am tossing up between 13" Zildjian K/Z Dyno Beats, and 14" Ufip Rough Series. I play in two bands, a 4-piece metalcore band, and a jazz trio. which hat's'd fit both bands?

this is a serious post by the way. i read it again and thought it sounded rediculous, but i do infact play in both a metalcore band and a jazz trio. i have a rack setup and just pull out a 3 piece with ride, crash and hats for jazzy-times. i learnt on the Ufips, so im biased towards them, but they're really articulate with sticks.. mm.. what are peoples thoughts?

[stevoibanez]

you need versatility
versatility = AAX stage hats
versatility = New Beats

[aywkubt_tod]

you need versatility
versatility = AAX stage hats
versatility = New Beats

#i dont like sabian cymbals in general because they dont feel right, 2 machined
##New Beats are good, but i tried them and not the biggest fan.

i tried out heaps of hats and narrowed it down to the K/Zs or Rough Series..