*** The Cymbal Finder ***

[Murd_666]

for a ride maybe an A Ping or an A "Sweet" ride. For something from sabian an AA medium Ride would do the trick....

[Flyin' Brian]

The Sweet Ride rules! I am not a Travis Barker fan, for the record. I went to the Woodwind and Brasswind store in South Bend, IN to replace my crappy ZBTs and I found a nice low pitched Sweet Ride that I just fell in love with. It's more defined than I would have thought, but it also has a nice wash for a good full sound that I believe a ride cymbal *should* have. It's got a nice bright bell, and you could even use it as a monster crash if you wanted to...

[DruMMeR_BoY14]

Haha yeah go Atom Willard from the Offspring style!

[Bryan Blakey]

What would you guys reccommend for jazz cymbals? I haven't ever really looked for cymbals except when I first got my drums and bought my B8's, now that I have a job I can save up to get 1 or 2 nice jazz cymbals, I'm thinking a ride and a crash, and eventually some hats. So what would you guys reccommend?

Oh, and I want the ride to be pretty heavy with a lot of wash, probably 22" if possible. And for the crash, 18"-20" and pretty dark. So whatever you guys can reccommend would be great, thanks.

[Plan B.]

Check out a Constantinople Medium ride.

[Hyper Kid]

What would you guys reccommend for jazz cymbals? I haven't ever really looked for cymbals except when I first got my drums and bought my B8's, now that I have a job I can save up to get 1 or 2 nice jazz cymbals, I'm thinking a ride and a crash, and eventually some hats. So what would you guys reccommend?

Oh, and I want the ride to be pretty heavy with a lot of wash, probably 22" if possible. And for the crash, 18"-20" and pretty dark. So whatever you guys can reccommend would be great, thanks.

22" K Custom High Definition Ride
20" or 22" K Custom Dry Light Ride
any K Constantinople rides

[Murd_666]

The Sweet Ride rules! I am not a Travis Barker fan, for the record.wat does travis baker have to do wit the sweet ride?
What would you guys reccommend for jazz cymbals? I haven't ever really looked for cymbals except when I first got my drums and bought my B8's, now that I have a job I can save up to get 1 or 2 nice jazz cymbals, I'm thinking a ride and a crash, and eventually some hats. So what would you guys reccommend?

Oh, and I want the ride to be pretty heavy with a lot of wash, probably 22" if possible. And for the crash, 18"-20" and pretty dark. So whatever you guys can reccommend would be great, thanks.
Try the new sabian manhatten jazz cymbals for your jazz taste and for the dark crashes try AAX dark crashes, HH Dark crashes or K Custom Dark crashes....

[Flyin' Brian]

^^Travis Barker PLAYS a Sweet Ride. Some reviews I've seen on wwbw.com are to the effect of "Travis plays it, so it must be awesome!" My point was that's not why I chose the Sweet Ride. And to DruMMeR BoY, Atom Willard \m/ \m/

[Murd_666]

oic i just like it i never knew travis played it...but meh i'm not a fan of travis anyways...

[MXicanDrummer]

I'm saving up for a revamp of my cymbal set-up. I play punk and rock so i figured the zildjain A's would fit best. So, seeing as I have yet to be able to test them for myself, what are your opinions on these cymbals?

Zildjian 22" A Custom Ping Ride
Zilldjian 13" Advedis Mastersound Hihat
Zildjian 18" Medium Crash

[GooseFilms.net]

i just won a 20" K Custom Ride off EBay, $178 US, itl get here next week
cant wait :)

[sublimeisnice]

^^^ awesome, i always shop ebay for deals...i won a 19"a custom crash for like 150 a couple days ago.

[FockerTheLopper]

I'm looking for a fast reacting crash thats not too washy and pretty full bodied. Price isn't really important but I want it to be a Zildjian. Something similar to a Z medium 17''

[ilikenoise]

^ 17" A Custom Medium

[bobby__johnny]

I'm looking for a fast reacting crash thats not too washy and pretty full bodied. Price isn't really important but I want it to be a Zildjian. Something similar to a Z medium 17''

i'd go with an A Zildjian or AA Medium-thin crash....not as powerful as a Z Custom Medium, but it will have the speed your looking for.

[ScMc]

Bobby: Unfortunately im selling my 14" groove hats that you liked so much... Also going on ebay is my 16 inch stage crash. Both sound great but are just not my style unfortunately. As my drumming skills have progressed, my ability to know what a good cymbal sounds like has also progressed. Fortunately, I will be sticking with the 18" HHXtreme crash I purchased last year. The HHXtreme sounds killer and I wont need a china cuz it's really trashy!


FIRST AND FOREMOST:My favorite kinds of music are metal and rock and I really like to groove and play funky technical beats on the hi-hat and ride. I really like the way Danny Carey/Mike Portnoys set ups sound, and I want to be able to be as technical with my hats as David Garibaldi can be on his. I just need cymbals that sound good and that if a crowd of random people heard them, they would think they sound great as well.

I am not totally set on the hi hats and crash I am about to list so If you think they sound bad or a different crash/hi-hat pair would sound better for my playing style, just let me know. Cliff Notes: Tell me if these cymbals actually sound good or if it's just me

The hi-hats I really like are Zildjian K 13" Mastersounds. I have only heard them on Ziljians website but they sound great. Any comments on these would be helpful.

The crash I Really like is the Zildjian K 16" Thin Dark Crash (Brilliant).

Any comments on those cymbals would be helpful.

What I need is a Ride, not dark or dry but again, something that is very versatile and that anyone can enjoy the sound of. Preferably something from Zildjian. Also, Help me find a couple more crashes and some Effects cymbals.

Thanks guys for ANY help! Cant wait to get my new cymbals.

Bobby, that was my question a page back. Dont know if you saw it... If you could help me out it would be great, thanks.

[bobby__johnny]

The hi-hats I really like are Zildjian K 13" Mastersounds. I have only heard them on Ziljians website but they sound great. Any comments on these would be helpful.

hey, if the sound clip appeals to you, you should go find a pair to hear in person.

maybe try the 13" HHX Groove Hats (i know your selling 14s now)

The crash I Really like is the Zildjian K 16" Thin Dark Crash (Brilliant).

maybe try a Hand Hammered Medium Crash...given the typse of music your playing, this would be a more suited choice.

What I need is a Ride, not dark or dry but again, something that is very versatile and that anyone can enjoy the sound of. Preferably something from Zildjian. Also, Help me find a couple more crashes and some Effects cymbals.

Maybe the good ol' 22" A. Medium Ride?

[Plan B.]

I just picked up an 18" Vault crash!

[ScMc]

I didnt even know they were out yet... how do u like it?

[llama123]

I just picked up an 18" Vault crash!
Details please !

[groomits]

oh man!

[-TheGlassPrison-]

I just picked up an 18" Vault crash!

What are they like booiii... :wave:



OK,
Got some cash from selling my old drums.. lookin at some hi-hats.. thinkin 14" AAX Stage Hats?
I play some funk/fusion... and metal ect.. prog too.. good choice? other suggestions?

[bobby__johnny]

I just picked up an 18" Vault crash!


Where in Canada did you say you lived in ;)

[Plan B.]

I didn't.

:cool:

[bobby__johnny]

at least it wasnt another ride you bought :lol:

[Plan B.]

Oh man

In time I WILL have another... in time...

:Evil:

[-TheGlassPrison-]

Aww.. You guys are n00bs.. didnt anwser my question.. :upset:

[Plan B.]

Stage Hats? They're incredable. Portnoy uses them too I believe, well so do alot of drummers. They'd make a good choice for all of those styles, they're very versatile.

[Queen Anne's Revenge]

Stage Hats? They're incredable. Portnoy uses them too I believe, well so do alot of drummers. They'd make a good choice for all of those styles, they're very versatile.

Great hats, going to pick up a pair of 14"s from Long and Mcquaide in Toronto on Saturday. Maybe see what else I can scrounge up while in the T dot :thumb:

[rishjo15]

I'm pondering...
Sabian XS20 rock ride ($90ish)
or Meinl Amun powerful ride ($160ish)?

[no1bettr]

Im looking for a crash that would work well with my 16" AAX metal crash. i dont want another metal crash though.

[Plan B.]

Great hats, going to pick up a pair of 14"s from Long and Mcquaide in Toronto on Saturday. Maybe see what else I can scrounge up while in the T dot :thumb:

Right on man, great store.

Tell me what you get them for.

[White Riot!]

I'm pondering...
Sabian XS20 rock ride ($90ish)
or Meinl Amun powerful ride ($160ish)?


Go With the Meinl Amun powerful Ride

[Queen Anne's Revenge]

Right on man, great store.

Tell me what you get them for.


I've never actually been to a Toronto music store before, just the small shop we have in town, so I'm really looking forward to scoping this place out.

I will definately hit you back with some prices. :thumb:

[rishjo15]

Go With the Meinl Amun powerful Ride
I think I'll do that. I have to see what I'm willing to pay for. The XS20 series is great, but for some more dough I can get pro cymbals.

[groomits]

I just noticed that we can buy vault from massmusic... maybe its like that with all the store, but I saw it in massmusic. so for anyone is interested the ride is 300-350$...

[bobby__johnny]

Im looking for a crash that would work well with my 16" AAX metal crash. i dont want another metal crash though.

unfortunatly, in having a smaller, heavy crash...this may limit some of your options...so my suggestions are of the same weight area, but in diffrerent lines.

AA Rock Crash, HHX Power Crash, Hand Hammered Rock Crash....all of which, are in 18"ish sizes.

[chaos_through_order_13]

i'm looking for a good crashable ride, but with enough ping so that when i get going fast, i can still hear each individual stroke clearly.... i was thinking of the 21" A Zildjian Sweet Ride? anyone have any opinions on it or have other suggestions? (price doesn't matter) :thumb:

[bobby__johnny]

22" A or AA Medium Ride.

[Murd_666]

I just noticed that we can buy vault from massmusic... maybe its like that with all the store, but I saw it in massmusic. so for anyone is interested the ride is 300-350$...hahaha long and mquase sells for under $200....I'm not sure who asked but the Vault Crashes sound preetl close to A custom Medium crashes but for less money ^^

[Plan B.]

Mine was priced at, $160 (CDN) I believe.

[-TheGlassPrison-]

yes....

Paragon hats RULE!!

[groomits]

what do you guys think about the AAX 17'' dark crash. I think I'll buy one. I try it at a store and I find too cool!! With what type of music does it fit well?

[an_original_name]

^^^ i've played an 18" AAX dark crash and it sounded pretty good. it would probably fit into most styles of music.

[bobby__johnny]

unless your into Thin cymbals, i think its a waste of time. better to go for a line that is meant for darker cymbals, and have a choice of weights. HHX Stage Crash. a tad heavier, and an excellent Cymbal.

on other topics...i finally got a stand for my AA Medium Crash....now my kit is sexy....er :lol:

[DruMMeR_BoY14]

DAm you'll pullin gthe chicks now with that AA medium crash bobby

[-TheGlassPrison-]

Eric..








Yes..







:thumb:

[Plan B.]

You mean you've been waiting all that time for a stand just to play your cymbal?!

[Der Meister]

So I've changed my mind completely on what cymbals i want after trying out some of the K customs, i narowed it down to 14" K custom Dark Hats, 16" k custom dark crash and a 20" k custom ride. For another crash, i don't know wether to get a cymbal that would blend with the dark crash or to get somthing like an 18'' Zildjian A crash so that i have 2 very different sounds.

[pearl.master.brx.punkster]

hi thinking of getting a zildjian oriental 12" china trash any thoughts/alternatives = thanks..

[bobby__johnny]

You mean you've been waiting all that time for a stand just to play your cymbal?!

yes....bought the Crash on December 28.....been in my bag since. :upset:

[chaos_through_order_13]

i was wondering if anyone has any sound clips of the new sabian "vault" cymbals they could paste on this website? i hear their loud and cutting, just what i'm looking for :thumb: (and yes i tried searching, but my computers messed and says some mumbo jumbo about this or that and doesn't let me search..... **** computers)

[groomits]

http://www.sabian.com/english/cymbals/Cymbal_Catalog.cfm

[Der Meister]

So I've changed my mind completely on what cymbals i want after trying out some of the K customs, i narowed it down to 14" K custom Dark Hats, 16" k custom dark crash and a 20" k custom ride.

For another crash, i don't know wether to get a cymbal that would blend with the dark crash or to get somthing like an 18'' Zildjian A crash so that i have 2 very different sounds.


Eric? Anyone? Jebus?

[Plan B.]

Maybe checkout a 17" K Thin crash. I have one, it's one of my favourite crashes, although isn't meant for heavy music. Mainly rock, jazz or studio use.

[Murd_666]

Mine was priced at, $160 (CDN) I believe.If it's an 18" same was the one I saw and the 19" is $175

[Murd_666]

Out of curiosity what do People thing of the Paiste Rude Series I'm Might buy the 16",17",18"19" Crash/Rides and another 19" Crash/Ride and 2 18" Paiste rude China's....Should I go with this and is there any other cymbals that work well with the rude series?

[bobby__johnny]

Out of curiosity what do People thing of the Paiste Rude Series I'm Might buy the 16",17",18"19" Crash/Rides and another 19" Crash/Ride and 2 18" Paiste rude China's....Should I go with this and is there any other cymbals that work well with the rude series?

well, if your playing Balls out trash metal, then by all means, get Rudes. if you play some dynamics, look into 2002 Power Crashes (they should be the same prices), or Dimensions Power Crashes (A Bit More)

[Murd_666]

well, if your playing Balls out trash metal, then by all means, get Rudes.I aint playin no thrash meatle I just like loud cymbals^^

[MerDeNoms]

Rudes kick the **** out of Z Customs, I'll give you that much. They aren't bad. They actually came out with RUDE Thin Crashes. I have to hear these. They sound like they will be awsome.

[bobby__johnny]

A Rude Thin Crash?....that kinda defeats the purpose of the Rude line doesnt it? :confused:

thats like having a Z Custom Jazz Ride.

I aint playin no thrash meatle I just like loud cymbals^^

then look into AA Rock Crashes...they are a little cheaper i beleive, and everybit as loud.

[llama123]

^ True.
Though Paiste wanted to open up the model to a larger variety of players (the slightly softer genres), but keep the same RUDE characteristics.

[bobby__johnny]

but that also kinda defeats the whole point of it being Rude "Classic"

[llama123]

^ Aye, so it does :(.

99th post

[DespisedIcon689]

I'm looking for high hat, crash, and ride cymbals for metal. Something that will last long and give a good sound. I prefer only Zildjian please!!!

[groomits]

Z custom

and its HI hat

[Murd_666]

Rudes kick the **** out of Z Customs, I'll give you that much. They aren't bad. They actually came out with RUDE Thin Crashes. I have to hear these. They sound like they will be awsome.WTF!!!That doesn't sound like the Eudes I know and love...jk, but still when did this happenbut that also kinda defeats the whole point of it being Rude "Classic^thats true^then look into AA Rock Crashes...they are a little cheaper i beleive, and everybit as loud.Well maybe I will but have to wait for shop to order them....I'm looking for high hat, crash, and ride cymbals for metal. Something that will last long and give a good sound. I prefer only Zildjian please!!!Look into the K/z combiation and the A custom Medium Crashes...

[DrummerAoA]

What kind of cymbals are the BEST: Sabian, Zildjian, or Paiste?

[Iskandar]

What kind of cymbals are the BEST: Sabian, Zildjian, or Paiste?

The round things you hit are the best.

[Seafroggys]

What kind of cymbals are the BEST: Sabian, Zildjian, or Paiste?

Istanbul Agops. :thumb:

[an_original_name]

What kind of cymbals are the BEST: Sabian, Zildjian, or Paiste?

no one brand is better than the other. its all down to personal taste really. i dont really care what brand of cymbals or drums i play, as long as they sound nice it doesnt matter.

[Murd_666]

^ya what he said^pesonally I prefer PAiste and Meinl

[llama123]

What kind of cymbals are the BEST: Sabian, Zildjian, or Paiste?
This is getting annoying now. Do your research.

I agree with an original name on this however.

[DespisedIcon689]

Z custom

and its HI hat

Sorry about that....(High... lol what was I thinking?) :)

[groomits]

you dont have to be sorry lol, its just a little error that nobody cares about... but me

[playwithfire]

Well Bobby I'm looking for a new china cymbal. It will either be an 18" or a 20", I want a swelling, trashy sound, with a pitch that will cut through the mix well. It doesn't have to have a long decay, a medium decay would be better, but it has to be really applicable for riding, which I'm sure an 18" or 20" china would be. Preferrably Zildjan because that's what the rest of my cymbals are, and preferably traditional finish, to match the rest, though brilliant finish doesn't mean I wouldn't get it. The models that stick out to me most are the A Zildjian China High, A Zildjian China Low, and Oriental Classic China.

[Plan B.]

The A Custom China might surprise you. Instant, bright attack, fairly short decay, high pitched, maybe not as trashy though. Consider trying one.

[Murd_666]

I like the 20" Oriental china "trash" but as you said you don't want it to stand out...

anyways Is it just me but I was trying a solar china And it didn't actually sound bad.It was not so much Trashy but had some soud characteristics of a gong....

[bobby__johnny]

The models that stick out to me most are the A Zildjian China High, A Zildjian China Low, and Oriental Classic China.

The China Low came to mind before i even seen that sentence,...so thats an obvious choice....maybe the China High in a 20"...

[DruMMeR_BoY14]

18" and 20" oriental china trash/classic china. 18" A china High and 18" and 20" A custom chinas are good. Check out some K's and K customs while your there, you might be surpirsed.

[ToyDolls]

I have created the most bitchen hit-hat ever. I've taken an 18" china and a 14" hi-hat and have made. The TRASH HAT! Dun dun dun. Surprisingly, it sounds bitchen.

[led zeppelin139]

i want to get a 16" crash, 14" hihats, and a 21ish" ride i play classic rock, and rock. i dont want anything too heavy or too light.

[shadow_stalker]

whats the difference between a crash and a crash/ride?

thanks

[Murd_666]

i want to get a 16" crash, 14" hihats, and a 21ish" ride i play classic rock, and rock. i dont want anything too heavy or too light.look into some paiste 2002 they're made for that kind of music or some AA Mediums/Medium-thin
or A Zildjian Medium/medium -thinwhats the difference between a crash and a crash/ride? A crash has more attack, and as rides are usually pingy when you combine the both you get something like a ride but with a lot more wash and balanced stick definition

[breakster]

hey guys im looking for a crash or entire series that i can use for rock, but i want warmth and relativly quick decay because i enjoy playing funk, jazz and latin styles too. im thinking bout A's or A customs

[shadow_stalker]

thin A crash has more attack, and as rides are usually pingy when you combine the both you get something like a ride but with a lot more wash and balanced stick definition

i have a 16" crash and a 20" ride, would it be a better idea to got a 18" crash or a 18" crah/ride?

[sublimeisnice]

if you already have a ride, than go for then 18" crash

[shadow_stalker]

ok thanks

[an_original_name]

i have a 16" crash and a 20" ride, would it be a better idea to got a 18" crash or a 18" crah/ride?

what cymbals do you have already? if your just on zbt's or B8's or something then i would suggest that you replace those first, then worry about getting a second crash

[Murd_666]

^ya^or you'll regret it, more cymbals<better cymbals

[shadow_stalker]

what cymbals do you have already? if your just on zbt's or B8's or something then i would suggest that you replace those first, then worry about getting a second crash

my crash is Sabian Pro and my Ride is a Stagg, but i really like the sound they both give so i dont want to replace them


also i have had second thoughts about the 18" crash, would getting a second 16" but a paiste 502 rather than a sabian be a good idea? (is there much difference in the sound?)

[Murd_666]

I don't Really think so... but I haven't Heard a paiste 502 and besides it not the brand that determins the sound, It's the cymbals itself and how it's made...

[shadow_stalker]

yeah, i dont really want to get another sabian crash incase they sound to similar

i was just thinkin that since they are different brands/companies they would just have a different sound

hm...i will have to think about it

[groomits]

just remember that EVERY cymbals are different. Sabian, ziljian and paiste got over 100 (??) different cymbals. you can be sure that you will not take a cymbal that will sound like another.

[bobby__johnny]

even if you pick the same model and size...it WILL NOT sound the same as the other.

[Iskandar]

hey guys im looking for a crash or entire series that i can use for rock, but i want warmth and relativly quick decay because i enjoy playing funk, jazz and latin styles too. im thinking bout A's or A customs

A's can be used for pretty much anything, but for the styles you described I'd say K Customs would be your best bet. Be warned, they're expensive but worth it.

[bobby__johnny]

i'd reccomend the HHX line from Sabian, but like those K Customs, they arent cheap (they are cheaper than the K customs though)

[sm1th]

im looking to buy a second crash. A's a pretty tough to get hold of rouynd here but its do-able but A customs are pretty abundant. I want a low tone. which out of the A or A custom models would suit this best?
thanks.

[bobby__johnny]

i'd say the regular A's are better for a lower tone...the bigger the better. maybe a 19" Medium-thin Crash

[breakster]

A's can be used for pretty much anything, but for the styles you described I'd say K Customs would be your best bet. Be warned, they're expensive but worth it.
thanks, was looking at k's today. think i might get a k custom session ride. and just mix and match the rest.

[sm1th]

thanks bobby jonny

[chaos_through_order_13]

i'm thinking of getting a couple cheap splashes, probably by stagg or UFIP, but i don't know much about either brand. i'm looking for real punchy, kinda glassy splashes, and i was wondering if anybody could recommend a specific series or a specific cymbal by either of these brands, any advice is appreciated. thanks

[an_original_name]

i dont know anything about stagg or UFIP, but i think an A custom 10" splash fits that description pretty well.

[groomits]

for punk rock, pop rock, wich crash is better?

AAXplosion 17'' crash

or

AAX Stage 18'' crash

I tried some and these are the two that I liked the more

[llama123]

^ I think they would both do nicely, though I would say the Stage crash as it would be slightly more full bodied and stronger.

[an_original_name]

^^^ i duno. i have a 16" AAXplosion crash and its got alot of body to it.

[bobby__johnny]

i'd go with the stage...better for forceful playing. the AAXplosion is a bit too fast and punchy.

[dum_drum]

hey whats a cheap crash and a cheap ride but both sound good for the money im looking to pay around 100 for each thanks

[Plan B.]

What kind of sound do you want?

[J0llyhunter]

wat would the K constinople med low ride, K dark crash thin and A zildjian & cle vinatge crash be compared to for sabian?

[shadow_stalker]

hey whats a cheap crash and a cheap ride but both sound good for the money im looking to pay around 100 for each thanks

i would say sabian pro and pro sonix (i love those cymbals)

[llama123]

hey whats a cheap crash and a cheap ride but both sound good for the money im looking to pay around 100 for each thanks
What currency?
100 english? 100 canadian?
100 pheasants?!

and like Plan B said, what sound are you after?

[llama123]

wat would the K constinople med low ride, K dark crash thin and A zildjian & cle vinatge crash be compared to for sabian?
Possibly the 20" Hand Hammered Medium ride, the HH Thin crash and the AA Medium/Medium Thin crashes.

[Queen Anne's Revenge]

On the search for a China cymbal. Preferably Sabian, 18 to 20", good for lots of riding and can stand up to some pretty hard hitting (hard rock/metal). Medium decay is preferred.

[llama123]

^ 18"/20" HHX Chinese.

[Aydum]

Hey, before I head off to the music store tomorrow I was wondering if the store would accept this offer and/or if it would be a fair trade for me.


16" Paiste Alpha thin crash
16" Paiste Alpha crash
18" Sabian Pro Chinese
13" Zildjian A Custom Mastersound Hi-hats

for

16" Sabian AA Medium Crash
13" Sabian HHX Groove Hi-hats

[bobby__johnny]

On the search for a China cymbal. Preferably Sabian, 18 to 20", good for lots of riding and can stand up to some pretty hard hitting (hard rock/metal). Medium decay is preferred.

20" B8 Pro...trust me on this :thumb:

[Plan B.]

Hey, before I head off to the music store tomorrow I was wondering if the store would accept this offer and/or if it would be a fair trade for me.


16" Paiste Alpha thin crash
16" Paiste Alpha crash
18" Sabian Pro Chinese
13" Zildjian A Custom Mastersound Hi-hats

for

16" Sabian AA Medium Crash
13" Sabian HHX Groove Hi-hats


I don't know man, you got some nice cymbals there.

[Aydum]

I don't know man, you got some nice cymbals there.

Well the thing is, my taste has changed a bit, and now I'm looking for a more defined sticking sound that the mastersounds can't provide. Don't get me wrong, they're still a great pair of hats, it's just that I like the sound and tone of the groove hats more. Crash-wise I'm thinking the Alphas don't project enough when I gig with my band because I play un-miced.

[groomits]

i'd go with the stage...better for forceful playing. the AAXplosion is a bit too fast and punchy.

but the cymbal (aaxplosion or stage) would be my 2nd crash. cause now I got a xs20 as 2nd that I want to change. cause I think that for a 2nd crash, a punchy one could be cool...

[metallifan78]

hey im looking at some zildjian zbt rocks. there in my price range of around $300. is there anything better in that range or is this a good pack 2 buy.

[llama123]

^ ZBTs are not good cymbals. If you have to go for lower end cymbals, Sabian B8/Pro or Paiste 502 are much better.

[metallifan78]

^ ZBTs are not good cymbals. If you have to go for lower end cymbals, Sabian B8/Pro or Paiste 502 are much better.
k im playing stock everything on my set. i just started and im aout to buy them out of desperation. my set came w/ a 16" crash/ride & god knows what hi-hats. there cbs and im about tired of them are those atleast better?

[bobby__johnny]

yes. they are a little better, but the B8's are the same price range, and MUCH better than ZBT's.

[da qwikz]

I am looking for a splash cymbal that is bright and has a lot of sustain

And as far as the ZBT's go, the 16 in crash is horrible. The 18 inch china on the otherhand is one of my favorite cymbals.

The other question I have is about the ZXT Trashformers. My friend bought one and he says it is awesome. I am not sure if I should buy one or not?? I have read mixed reviews on it and I was wondering if you had heard anything

Thanx a lot

[Queen Anne's Revenge]

20" B8 Pro...trust me on this :thumb:


You have yet to steer me wrong, I will give it a try, along with several others.

[szenarox]

uhm... question. i cracked my 20inch z custom medium crash a few weeks ago..*glassy eyed* should i A, buy another 20 incher, B) wait till march to get the 20 inch z custom projection crash, or C) stay away from z customs all together, and get the 20 inch A custom medium crash?

*sucker for zildjians....

[Seafroggys]

uhm... question. i cracked my 20inch z custom medium crash a few weeks ago..*glassy eyed* should i A, buy another 20 incher, B) wait till march to get the 20 inch z custom projection crash, or C) stay away from z customs all together, and get the 20 inch A custom medium crash?

*sucker for zildjians....

You cracked a z custom?

That's like leaning on 10" reinforced glass for whales.

Try and custom order a cymbal that is two z customs fused together. Then you won't have to waste so much money buying cymbals all the time :rolleyes:

[DruMMeR_BoY14]

And be htiting hub caps.


Go with the 20" A custom medium, the A customs have the same amount of volume as the Z's. but are so much more musical.

[llama123]

^ Aye, they are.
I'm not too sure cracking a Z Custom is normal, so keep in mind that A Customs (even the mediums) are thinner. Try to look at your technique, cymbals aren't cheap... [rhyming there :thumb:]...

Yeh I'll go... :(

[bobby__johnny]

if your cracking Z Customs, theres DEFINATLY something wrong....where did it crack?

[szenarox]

if your cracking Z Customs, theres DEFINATLY something wrong....where did it crack?


the cymbal had a factory defect where the thickness of the edge suddenly got thinner on one side of the crack than the other. it cracked right on that line and it looked like it had been dropped or something. my stupidity for not returning it right away, but live and learn i guess. i didn't think anything of it at the time though and i had it for two years before it cracked.

[bobby__johnny]

usually if it hasnt cracked during the peroid of the warranty, it wasnt a manufacting defect. although that isnt always the case.

[llama123]

Just something i'm curious about...
With one of my cymbals, everytime I play it it always spins round and plays on one side (sort of thing?!). It doesn't matter much I suppose. I was just wondering though if this is due to one side/part of the cymbal which is heavier than the rest? Is this normal?

Thanks,
Tom

[shadow_stalker]

Just something i'm curious about...
With one of my cymbals, everytime I play it it always spins round and plays on one side (sort of thing?!). It doesn't matter much I suppose. I was just wondering though if this is due to one side/part of the cymbal which is heavier than the rest? Is this normal?

Thanks,
Tom

my cymbals sometimes do that, i've found that it tends to be the way that the stand is set-up

[llama123]

^ Ok then. Thanks for your help.
I'll have a mess around with my stands to see if i can prevent this. :)

Tom

[groomits]

just to say that today I went to my local drum store and I picked a AAX 15'' dark crash. It sound soooooooooooo good!! The 17'' sounded good also, but when I hit the 15'' I feel a little erection...

[llama123]

^ haha, nice man. :)

[bobby__johnny]

when I hit the 15'' I feel a little erection...

just a little one? ;)

[groomits]

its a cymbal lol... not like if it was britney

[Nihilism_Ninja]

What would be ideal cymbals for being loud, durable, relatively fast, with a middle pitch? I play extremely fast so i really need something with the power and hangtime of throwing a glass bottle against a brick wall.

[DruMMeR_BoY14]

A custom Fast crash, A Thin Crash

[groomits]

is this normal?? I just noticed some very very little black lines on my new drak crash. start at the edge to the bell... theres like 3 lines

I cant take pictures now cause I dont have my cam, but when I'll have it I'll show you.

[bobby__johnny]

What would be ideal cymbals for being loud, durable, relatively fast, with a middle pitch? I play extremely fast so i really need something with the power and hangtime of throwing a glass bottle against a brick wall.

A custom Fast crash, A Thin Crash

^^ for those descriptions, no. "fast" ANYTHING is just asking to be cracked.

look for AA Medium Crashes and Heavier (Rock Crash)

[Murd_666]

What would be ideal cymbals for being loud, durable, relatively fast, with a middle pitch? I play extremely fast so i really need something with the power and hangtime of throwing a glass bottle against a brick wall.
A custom Fast crash, A Thin Crash^the hell^ those two choces would break in no time.... go for a Meinl Raker Lightning Crashes, There made for heavey hitting and should have fast decay....

[DruMMeR_BoY14]

I was looking at the "hangtime of throwing a glass bottle against a brick wall." part so I thought something with a quick decay.

[bobby__johnny]

^^^

for being loud, durable,

that would be what really needed to be considered.

try an AAXplosion. its a medium-thin, but provided you have decent technique, you should do fine with it.

[groomits]

hey, no one knows whats happening to my crash??

[llama123]

^ I'm not too sure Groomits. When you get your webcam, post pictures like you said, then I'm sure it will be much easier for us to help you.

[groomits]

here's my baby, and we cant see those little marks. its like hairs but when it dont move.
and its not the little white one on the picture.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v473/delangie/Photo098.jpg

[Plan B.]

Nice cymbal.

:cool:

[J0llyhunter]

wats the sabian version of the mastersound/sound edge hats?

[DruMMeR_BoY14]

the XCelerator hats.

[bobby__johnny]

comes in AAX and PRO. the PRO's would be the much brighter sounding of the two

[cctama29]

hey,
im lookin for a thin quick symbol that could put its self up to heavy rock/metal music
i was lookin at the sabian aax studio crash but it seems kinda weak for the genre
any suggetions?

[bobby__johnny]

the only thing i can think would be those new Paiste Rude Thin Crashes....again however, Thin and Metal/Loud Music just dont mix.

[White Riot!]

hey,
im lookin for a thin quick symbol that could put its self up to heavy rock/metal music
i was lookin at the sabian aax studio crash but it seems kinda weak for the genre
any suggetions?


May i suggest a HHXtreme Crash?

It explodes with power and has a fast decay

check it out!

[RavEMasteR]

If you remember a while back, I was asking for cheap cymbal recommendations. Well, I can ditch that now, because I just got a sudden boost of cash.

I'm going for a professional series ride, and this time, I want a bright sounding, but elegent crash. Any ideas?

[bobby__johnny]

AA Medium-Thin.

[ToyDolls]

I so found a 20 inch Sabian HHX Manhattan ride in my school, then I so stole it

[TDrummer219]

Hey guys, I'm looking for crashes or chinas that have a fast clean attack with quick decay, a punchy sound while remaining melodic. I really like the Bozzio Radia line so something like that except more available and better prices.

[Murd_666]

Hey guys, I'm looking for crashes or chinas that have a fast clean attack with quick decay, a punchy sound while remaining melodic. I really like the Bozzio Radia line so something like that except more available and better prices.I'm not sure about the radia line but probably try an AAX Plosion crash they have great punch and if your not playing heavy music try the HHX Studio Crash and the HH extra thin crashes. for a china try an AAX treme china.If you remember a while back, I was asking for cheap cymbal recommendations. Well, I can ditch that now, because I just got a sudden boost of cash.

I'm going for a professional series ride, and this time, I want a bright sounding, but elegent crash. Any ideas?For a ride if you want a loud sounding bell try the Meinl souncaster custom Mega bell ride great sounding in my opinion, i not so sure about the crash but try bobby jonnys sugestion it should sound like what you are looking for

[cctama29]

I so found a 20 inch Sabian HHX Manhattan ride in my school, then I so stole it

:lol:

[dumbassdrummer]

I'm looking for new hats. My price range 300 or so and less.
They need to be versitile and bright. I generally like 13"s.

[shadow_stalker]

I'm looking for new hats. My price range 300 or so and less.
They need to be versitile and bright. I generally like 13"s.

what country do you live in?

regardless i would say something like Sabian AA, also i have never tried them but i have heard very good things about 'UFIP' cymbals.


but whatever you buy try it out first to make sure you like them

[metallifan78]

to anyone who gave me advice on cymbals and what to buy i thought i would let you all know that i dug deep and im buying a zildjian a seris pack. im very excited about getting those babies.

[shadow_stalker]

to anyone who gave me advice on cymbals and what to buy i thought i would let you all know that i dug deep and im buying a zildjian a seris pack. im very excited about getting those babies.

good on you mate :thumb:

[RichHunt]

Hi hats.

Quick, precise, acoustic.

Not low pitched.

Cutting (but then again, why hi hats aren't) but soothing.


Smooooth hi hats.. suitable for heavyish rock settings.

I don't want zompy hi hats that sound like a plane reversing.

[sublimeisnice]

"I don't want zompy hi hats that sound like a plane reversing."

I have no idea what zompy means, or what a plane sounds like in reverse, but from the other things that you mentioned, id say try the a custom, i think those fit in your other categories pretty well. But your a Ufip guy and i dont know anything about those cymbals so im at a loss to suggest some of those.

[bobby__johnny]

Hi hats.

Quick, precise, acoustic.

Not low pitched.

Cutting (but then again, why hi hats aren't) but soothing.


Smooooth hi hats.. suitable for heavyish rock settings.

I don't want zompy hi hats that sound like a plane reversing.

A Mastersounds, AAXcellerators, 2002/Alpha/Sig Sound Edges

[RichHunt]

But your a Ufip guy and i dont know anything about those cymbals so im at a loss to suggest some of those.

Heh, I play anything man, I just have utmost respect for UFiP and thing they should get more recognition (same with meinl).

I mean.. my ride's a zildjian, china and splash are wuhan and hats are ****.

The only thing that's ufip on my kit are both my crashes, and in my opinion crashes are the hardest to get perfect (Mine still aren't perfect, but the closest I've found so far.). Some people will beg to differ, but in my opinion crashes are the hardest.

[sublimeisnice]

I totally agree that crashes are tough to get right, and to get a good personal sound. I have sort of a crash fetish, i buy new crashes every chance i get. I like to have a large selection.

and i agree with meinl deserving recognition...if you need K customs on a budget, get Meinl byzance series....i havent had an oppurtunity to try or even see Ufip cymbal...

[White Riot!]

Byzance are not K' copies

[Murd_666]

^but there aren't totally different from them^
K Zildjian=Hand Hammered=Byzance=(don't know Paiste, Istanbul, Stagg or Blosphorus equvilents)
K Custiom=HHX=Byznace( I think)

[Dave*Grohl]

Can i please get some help!? I use to have a Zildjian A custom 18" Projection crash but it cracked after 7 months, mosly because of my playing style. Im a heavy hitter. Anyway, i need a good crash cymbal that wont crack immediatly! I have looked into Zildjian Z custom medium crashes, are they any good? Also i need a ride, i have looked into Zildjian a sweet ride and ping rides. Please help me, i need good cymbals for playing punk! Thanks

[RavEMasteR]

Alright guys, thanks for the input. I've order an AAX Medium-Thin Crash(but it's out of stock at the moment, I'll know when the next shipment is tomorrow). They are the same as the AA Medium-Thin Crash, but with the Sound Control thingy, right(if they're horrible, I'll cancel my order)?

[groomits]

^but there aren't totally different from them^
K Zildjian=Hand Hammered=Byzance=(don't know Paiste, Istanbul, Stagg or Blosphorus equvilents)
K Custiom=HHX=Byznace( I think)

you know a lot of things about cymbal!

firts zildjian k/custom are not hand hammered. second, if byzance are hand hammered, it will not and never be the same as another brand.

AAX and B8 are not hand hammered, do they are the same?? no.

[Seafroggys]

you know a lot of things about cymbal!

firts zildjian k/custom are not hand hammered. second, if byzance are hand hammered, it will not and never be the same as another brand.

AAX and B8 are not hand hammered, do they are the same?? no.

AAX and B8s are machine hammered. When Sabian first started up, they had two series, the AAs and the Hand Hammered (AA was obviously machine hammered). Now if they called a cymbal the AAX, obviously it would be machine hammered as well.

[groomits]

^^ yeah true, but I just wanted to say that its not because two brands are hand hammered that they will be the same.

[bobby__johnny]

Alright guys, thanks for the input. I've order an AAX Medium-Thin Crash(but it's out of stock at the moment, I'll know when the next shipment is tomorrow). They are the same as the AA Medium-Thin Crash, but with the Sound Control thingy, right(if they're horrible, I'll cancel my order)?

there is no AAX Medium-thin Crash....there are Stage And Xplosion crashes are are a medium-thin weight though.....and no, it wont sound like an AA Med-thin, because the lathings, and hammerings are completely different.

the AAX by standard, should be more focused, and a tad darker than the AA.

Can i please get some help!? I use to have a Zildjian A custom 18" Projection crash but it cracked after 7 months, mosly because of my playing style. Im a heavy hitter. Anyway, i need a good crash cymbal that wont crack immediatly! I have looked into Zildjian Z custom medium crashes, are they any good? Also i need a ride, i have looked into Zildjian a sweet ride and ping rides. Please help me, i need good cymbals for playing punk! Thanks

if your cracking an A Custom Projection, then look into Z Rock Crashes, and a teacher for good technique. for the ride, go with the Ping.

[RavEMasteR]

there is no AAX Medium-thin Crash....there are Stage And Xplosion crashes are are a medium-thin weight though.....and no, it wont sound like an AA Med-thin, because the lathings, and hammerings are completely different.

the AAX by standard, should be more focused, and a tad darker than the AA.

Hm..., I'll check it with the dealer. If there was no AAX Medium Thin, how could he be asking for RM530 from me for a cymbal that doesn't exist?

Anywho, thank God I asked before I paid. So, are there any cymbals from the AAX series similar to what I've asked for(bright, elegent crash)?

[bobby__johnny]

i'd say the AAX Stage Crash is your best bet....also, one other i had forgot to mention, the AAX Bright Crash is a medium-thin.

i say cancel your order and go AA....i'd take those over AAX's anyday.

[johnmc666]

Hey im new to this forum/board
Just wondering if i could have a few suggestions from you people.
Im looking to purchase new cymbals preferable for hard rock/metal music, i would be very grateful for some suggestions in what to look out for.

[groomits]

^^welcome man!!

and what is your price range and the sound you want?? it will be easier for us to help you.

[bobby__johnny]

yeah man, the only thing i ask of in this thread, is that you be descriptive. Bright,Dark, heavy, thin, cymbal types, brand preferences etc....

and if on a budget, please let us know what your willing to spend. it helps me be especially precise.

[johnmc666]

Price shouldnt be a problem im going to save until ive got the right money. Preferances really Sabian or Paiste ive got Ziljdian ZXT cymbals at the moment and i really dont like them.
With the crash im looking for something that has a nice dark aggressive and explosive sound but doesnt keep ringing after, my current ZXT does that and i dont really like it.
With the ride cymbal aggressive ping but still not to keep ringing afterwards.
Sorry about the explanations if there not useful im a newbie as you can guess lol

[Seafroggys]

For the ride, try a 20" A Ping Ride.

[bobby__johnny]

With the crash im looking for something that has a nice dark aggressive and explosive sound but doesnt keep ringing after, my current ZXT does that and i dont really like it.

that sounds like an HHXplosion crash to me.

With the ride cymbal aggressive ping but still not to keep ringing afterwards.
Sorry about the explanations if there not useful im a newbie as you can guess

Paiste Signature Power ride. will seem like it rings forever on your own, but throw in guitars to the mix, and it will be all ping, and no ring.

[johnmc666]

thanks for the suggestions.
i will look into it sometime during the week.

thanks

[Murd_666]

you know a lot of things about cymbal!

firts zildjian k/custom are not hand hammered. second, if byzance are hand hammered, it will not and never be the same as another brand.

AAX and B8 are not hand hammered, do they are the same?? no.Thats not exactly what I meant, I meant that they are high quality darker cymbals of the company.^^AA Rock Ride might work too...^^

[groomits]

the aa rock ride is a lot more bright than dark in my opinion...

[Murd_666]

I know the AA rock ride was dark at all though I was talking about for the kind of ride jhonmc66 wanted

[groomits]

ha ok lol

[darkavatar]

you know a lot of things about cymbal!

firts zildjian k/custom are not hand hammered. second, if byzance are hand hammered, it will not and never be the same as another brand.

AAX and B8 are not hand hammered, do they are the same?? no.

are the sabian B8s good? I don't know anything about them, but my schools practice drum set has B8 crash and ride cymbals.

[Bombadil84]

they are the "lower" from sabian, even if i prefer them to Sabian's Solar, but they do the job well... For certains cymbals, the change to B8 Pro is worth it for not much... ex. for the chinese.

[darkavatar]

thanks a lot. That was pretty helpful.

[Seafroggys]

Yeah, I played on B8s for the first time today, and they weren't too bad (of course I was wearing ear plugs and playing with a band, but that's besides the point).

Of course, nothing beats the AAs instead.

[Hyper Kid]

Yeah, I played on B8s for the first time today, and they weren't too bad (of course I was wearing ear plugs and playing with a band, but that's besides the point).


yeah man, entry level cymbals arent as bad as people say they are. I kinda liked the sound of ZXT cymbals.

One of my friends has a really dirty ZBT-Plus medium ride.. and it didnt sound too bad.

[Dave*Grohl]

[if your cracking an A Custom Projection, then look into Z Rock Crashes, and a teacher for good technique. for the ride, go with the Ping.]

I have a techer and he says that i have really good techniques, its jsut cuz i hit so **** hard. He says i'm like dave grohl...witch by the way is ****ing cool!

[Queen Anne's Revenge]

Yeah, I played on B8s for the first time today, and they weren't too bad (of course I was wearing ear plugs and playing with a band, but that's besides the point).

Of course, nothing beats the AAs instead.


Can't agree more, AA's kick some serious ***.

[Bombadil84]

Hi guys I'm looking for a cymbal that will sound low and powerfull, in order to have a hard rock / metal sound, in sabian please. I thought about those :

- AA Metal-X Crash
- AA Rocktagon Crash
- AAX plosion Crash

Any idea or recomandations?

thx

[an_original_name]

^^^ if you want a low sound, then none of those are going to give you what you want. look into HH's. probably medium weight if you hit a bit hard.

[bobby__johnny]

I have a techer and he says that i have really good techniques, its jsut cuz i hit so **** hard. He says i'm like dave grohl...witch by the way is ****ing cool!

if your cracking, your technique is bad. there is no inbetween

[brian996]

Hey, I'm looking for a 17-18" crash that will compliment my 16" El Sabor crash. I don't want to spend more than $150-$175 on it and want something a bit bigger sounding than my El Sabor. Oh yeah, I play various classic rock (Led Zeppelin, mainly).

[Murd_666]

Try Another El sabor crash, there is an 18" wich is also food for riding on, also try the AA Medium-thin/thin crashesHi guys I'm looking for a cymbal that will sound low and powerfull, in order to have a hard rock / metal sound, in sabian please. I thought about those Hi guys I'm looking for a cymbal that will sound low and powerfull, in order to have a hard rock / metal sound, in sabian please. I thought about those :

- AA Metal-X Crash
- AA Rocktagon Crash
- AAX plosion Crash

Any idea or recomandations?

thx :Those are all high piched, Try HH Mediums, Rocks and the HHX Stage crahses

[Bombadil84]

thanks dude

[Postman]

Hey ive been playing drums for 2 years, now, and im looking for a ride cymbal. My price range is between 100-200 dollars. Also, anyone knows a good cymbal pack that includes new hi-hat, crash, and ride. THanks

[Seafroggys]

^^^Sabian AA Rides are about the only good cymbals you're gonna get in that price range.

[Dave*Grohl]

[if your cracking, your technique is bad. there is no inbetween]

If you say so! But anyway thats a load of bull! But thanks for the info, ill go and check out the ping

[llama123]

^ Sorry you don't like the news man.
Although if you continue to disagee that your technique is bad and you don't thoroughly evaluate it - it's your loss. You will be the one paying for your cymbals, not us.

[johnmc666]

is the sound check of the sabian website reliable or is not just the same as hearing the cymbal for yourself at a shop?

[llama123]

^ It's not great; it's not bad either. It'll give you a good idea of the overall character of the cymbal, though for sure they will sound different in person.

[johnmc666]

Yeh its given me an idea of what im looking for.

16" AA Medium Crash
17" AA Medium Crash
20" AA Rock Ride
Can't decide on the Hats though.
I was thinking 14" AA Rock Hats or 14" AA Regular Hats, just wondering would these choices be good for hard rock/metal?

[bobby__johnny]

with those particular cymbals, the Regular hats are your best bet.

If you say so! But anyway thats a load of bull! But thanks for the info, ill go and check out the ping

allright. keep playing the way you are, and you'll be buying replacements often.

[Murd_666]

Yeh its given me an idea of what im looking for.

16" AA Medium Crash
17" AA Medium Crash
20" AA Rock Ride
Can't decide on the Hats though.
I was thinking 14" AA Rock Hats or 14" AA Regular Hats, just wondering would these choices be good for hard rock/metal?I would say rock hats but as bobby said mediums are your best bet because they are more versitile...
Anyways I'm looking for 3 splashes, I was looking into max splashes but wanted to see if there was anything better, I'm looking for a splash load enough for rock, bright and cutting with fast decay...

[bobby__johnny]

hmmm...a chalenge :)

anyways, the Max splashes are great cymbals. they cut, and are probably the fastest splashes i've ever come across....although, they are rather thin...so they might not hold up in a heavy situation.....maybe look into bigger AA Splashes (10" +)...maybe go 10,12 for AA splashes, and a 13" Extra-thin crash....

[Bombadil84]

is the sound check of the sabian website reliable or is not just the same as hearing the cymbal for yourself at a shop?

The real sound is much better than the sabian website mp3 (well at least for the models i own and listenened there).

[shadow_stalker]

the sabian sound check is still usful, especially if you don't live near any shops and you wantto know what the cymbal sounds like.

if only you could combine DW's kit builder, Zildjian's cymbal set-up builder and sabian's sound check, that would be good.

[bobby__johnny]

the only thing soundcheck is good for, is basic character. pitch, sustain, attack etc....the actual tone of the cymbal will always be different.

[dum_drum]

hey im looking for a crash cymbal around 16 inches ummm im looking for a mid pitched noise out of it and i want it for around 150$

[bobby__johnny]

AAX Stage Crash.

[-TheGlassPrison-]

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[PrescribedNonsense]

Hello. I'm a newer drummer, been playing for like a year and 3 months now, and I don't have a ride. All I have is a Sabian B8 Crash/Ride, which totally doesn't work for me as a crash and it gets really too loud for me to be a ride, but I do like it. Can someone suggest a good Ride, for a alternative rock and/or Ska? I realize the two are different but I play different types of music. I'm willing to spend up to 200 US Dollars, but I'd prefer it to be not quite that expensive. Also, a stand as well, that is heavy enough to support a ride that will not collapse, and possibly have the ability to get a tom clamped to it? Thanks.

[bobby__johnny]

i'd say an AA Medium-heavy Ride for you....bit of spread, but a little more definition....

as for this line:

but I'd prefer it to be not quite that expensive.

if your into the music, rides and hi-hats are definatly not the cymbals to cheap out on. you can get away with a low end crash or splash, but nothing sounds worse than low end time keepers.

for a stand, any striaght stand will hold it fine. if your going to be using boom stands, anything should be fine, so long as the weight is placed over one leg.

[EBS77]

How bright is an AA Medium Thin crash? I can get a good deal on one, but I'm looking for something thats medium pitched, and not too bright.

[nzrocker]

Hey all, looking for a crash/crashes to compliment a 21' avedis zildjian sweet ride. I'd like my crashes to be more than 16' and not too heavy but i'm open to suggestions. Oh and hi-hats to go with them too? 14' is nice, don't like really like 13's. I usually play a 4 piece and i play a lot of classic rock and some pop/rock if that helps. Cheers guys, keep up the good work.

[DruMMeR_BoY14]

A Medium thins or A customs for crashes. Hats, look at A New Beats or K hats.

[chaos_through_order_13]

hey nzrocker, how do you like that avedis zildjian sweet ride, i've been thinkin' of buying one?

[Liggs]

Hey,

I'm a beginner looking for a step up from the terrible cymbals that came with my starter kit, these things have completely dented from me playing them already after a few months and at one point I completely bent the hi-hat in and I had to bend it back out myself.

I'm using Aria, a 14" hihat and a 16" crash which both sound terrible. Can you recommend me some decent new cymbals, I'm not in a band or anything so I don't need an incredible proffessional sound but good enough to keep me motivated you know?

My price range is about £120 for the hats, £120 for the ride and £100 for the crash. I'm open to any make and any suggestions, I almost bought Titanium cymbals until I realised how bad they were, luckily. Any advice?

Thanks.

[diversionends]

I started drumming about 6 months ago mainly for the purposes of recording... I bought a session pro starter drum kit which is all fairness is ok apart from the sort of crash/ride half arsed affair... When recording this symbol (using it as a ride) there was no definition and just created a continuous racket throughout...

My questions are - will a pearl 20" ride sound better/give the definition I am looking for? Is a second hand one in great condition good value for £26? Can anyone describe their sound?

Thanks for your help... as you can tell i'm clueless...

P.s sorry for this post being slightly out of place... for some reason it wont alow me to start a new thread...

[bobby__johnny]

to be honest, Pearls cymbals wont be much better than what came with your kit.

if your recording, maybe save up a bit, and get an AAX Stage ride. it wont be cheap, but it would certainly be worth it if your heavy into recording.

[diversionends]

really :s cheers for the advice...

[static]

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Yeah my hihat cymbals right now are really crappy cx 300 pearl hi hats. I was wondering if anyone knew any good hi hat cymbals for intermediate players (3.2 years) with a price range of up to 200$ i am in a band and we do record, so im looking for something that will last me a long time


thanks

[groomits]

^^in your other post you talked about 120$... but if you want to go up to 200$ then you can go with the AAX stage hats.

http://www.music123.com/Sabian-AAX-Stage-Hats-i29572.music

the 14'' are 217$ though.

[static]

well, i want examples for both. i got the stage hihats bookmarked, so does anyone know of anyones that go under 120?

[groomits]

maybe you can get some B8 pro or Xs20 with 120$.

[Seafroggys]

^^Completly off topic, but the two people above have the greatest avatars. Abbey Road is my favorite album, and that is my favorite scene from Family Guy.

"HHhhhhh.....ahhhhh..........hhhhhh......owwwww.... ...hhhhhhhh....ohhhhhh...."
Repeat for about two minutes.

Yeah, intermediate cymbals are kinda hard to come by. Paiste 802s maybe. Or you can just skip that stage and go straight to pro level second hand.

[static]

hmmm you got any good recommendations for pro hats? any price


sheeeE Ahhhhh sheeEE AHHhh

[Hyper Kid]

Anyone like playing jazz? if so which cymbals do u like to use?

[ilikenoise]

Anyone like playing jazz? if so which cymbals do u like to use?

K & K CUSTOM

[groomits]

HHX manhattan soudns very good. I tried all the kit (crash, hats and ride) at my local music store, and the ride sound very sweeeet.

[ZOFO77]

Hey all, looking for a crash/crashes to compliment a 21' avedis zildjian sweet ride. I'd like my crashes to be more than 16' and not too heavy but i'm open to suggestions. Oh and hi-hats to go with them too? 14' is nice, don't like really like 13's. I usually play a 4 piece and i play a lot of classic rock and some pop/rock if that helps. Cheers guys, keep up the good work.

*See my post yesterday under "Z" Customs thread........

I just changed out my starter Zilds from ZBT's to "A" Customs.........
:thumb:

I bought the 17" "A" Custom Projection Crash and the 18" "A" Custom Crash....SIMPLY BEAUTIFUL!

[nufanincan]

what would be a good 18' cymbal that would sound well with a 16' AAX stage crash and some 14' AAX metal hihats (havent got the hats yet, but its what im looking at...

the stager is bright i guess... and i was looking at an 18' dark crash AAX... would the dark contrast the bright too much?...

and what would be a good ride that has a fairly strong bell but also a crashy type sound when playing the "rim" area

[bobby__johnny]

for the crash, an AA Medium Crash would complement the Stage nicely.

as for the ride, i'd say an HHX groove ride.

[Bombadil84]

im looking for a versatile crash, to would make a good pair with my 16" Sabian Thin Crash. Maybe i'd go in 18", but i can be 16 too. I play rock and metal.

[nufanincan]

for the crash, an AA Medium Crash would complement the Stage nicely.

as for the ride, i'd say an HHX groove ride.

thanks... ill check them out... on the sabian site i was testing the sounds and came up with a setup of

16 aax stage crash (have)
18 aax dark crash
20 aax stage ride
20 hhx china
14 aax metal hihats

now i just need money!

im aware that all cymbals arent uniform sound but that seems like a good setup

[DespisedIcon689]

Looking for everything...hi-hat, crashes, rides, splashes, and chinas that would be for music rock or metal. Something sturdy that will last long and produces a good heavy sound. (NOT Z Cutsoms those i've heard have a bad sound)

[groomits]

look into AA rock

[no1bettr]

Im about to start playing with my church band. I need a crash that would sound nicely without hitting it hard. Somewhere along the "thin" lines.

[EBS77]

What is the Sabian equivalent of Zildjian A Customs?