*** The Cymbal Finder ***

[Triggen]

Anyway, So I might get A Custom Cymbals, would be alright? I was thinking 16in Medium Crash with a 16in Fast Crash. Is that alright for Green Day and Blink 182?

[Drum Phil]

Dont buy a cymbal cause it fits a cover song. Buy it because you like the sound.

Anyone will tell you that.

[HeLLmO]

^this is so true. fortunatly, A Customs are good, and i would totally buy 'em

[Drum Phil]

I have a very odd taste in cymbals.

AAXplosion next to K Custom fast crashes next to platinum rides next to (hopefully) Meinl Byzance and Gen X hats

[MatthewMeredith]

Mmm...... Byzance.....

[chewaz]

2002

[Panopticon]

2002

no, silly, it's 2006!

[MatthewMeredith]

no, silly, it's 2006!

Duh-dunh, chhhhshhshshshs.......


ETP2, I'm pretty sure it's just you and I left on the forum.

Edit: Nope, he's gone too... :(

[MXicanDrummer]

What is a good cymbal to blend with a Sabian AAX 18" crash.

Btw those cymbals there Phil, look like Z's or Z customs.
hell it even shows the Z in the bottom picture...

Edit: Nevermind Phil, I'm a ****ing moron

[Drum Phil]

I know. Thats the point. They're Z Customs. Proving that travis uses Z customs :-/

[saars]

What is the sabian sound equivalent of the 18" zildjian a thin crash and the 14" k mastersounds?

[HeLLmO]

i think it's AA(X?) studio, if they don't make AA studio you could get AAX in trad finish, and the Matersound equvalent would be HHxcellerators(not HHXcellerators), but i'm not sure if they make those, so you'd have to talk to sabian and get them custom done

[stevensonmat2]

Hey im looking for a really dark sounding ride that I could play in rock setting, something thatll cut, but with great stick definition.

[Seafroggys]

Hey im looking for a really dark sounding ride that I could play in rock setting, something thatll cut, but with great stick definition.

K Heavy Ride!

[stevensonmat2]

Sweet thanks! Lorax ftw

[Tim]

K Heavy Ride!

good god yes!

[DespisedIcon689]

My drummer is looking for some new crashes for metal. He hits hard on his cymbals and he broke both of his ZBT Crashes. I know ZBT sux but he is afraid he will break more cymbals. He is looking at Zildjian cymbals and he wants some that sound good with metal and are very durable. Any suggestions?

[stevensonmat2]

Z customs are supposedly the cymbals for hard rock/metal, but ive never tried em.

[saars]

To HeLLmO: Thanks! If I want to get a pair custom made, do you know how much it will cost me? Or more over, what number I should call to get a pair made?

[HeLLmO]

um... Z... Customs..? I'm probably gonna get flamed, but when I read metal, Z custom was the first two words that came in mind.

To HeLLmO: Thanks! If I want to get a pair custom made, do you know how much it will cost me? Or more over, what number I should call to get a pair made?


well, as to that, i'm honestly not sure, i'm sure you could look on the sabian site and try to find an FAQ or an Address or somethin'. if all else fairs you could always go to canada. i don't think the hats themselves would cost too much more than the hats would be if you didn't tamper with them, for example on massmusic, 14'' HH regular hats are 359, so i can't imagine gettin' them soundedged would make them more that 380(that's just an example, i don't recall sabians actual prices). they're usually really helpful with their custom stuff, so i think you'll be fine. glad i could be of help to ya

[chewaz]

My drummer is looking for some new crashes for metal. He hits hard on his cymbals and he broke both of his ZBT Crashes. I know ZBT sux but he is afraid he will break more cymbals. He is looking at Zildjian cymbals and he wants some that sound good with metal and are very durable. Any suggestions?

18" and 20" paiste 2002 medium crash or the sabian AA-metal-X crashes

[Tim]

18" and 20" paiste 2002 medium crash or the sabian AA-metal-X crashes

2002...hands down

[Drum Phil]

Z customs are supposedly the cymbals for hard rock/metal, but ive never tried em.
Z customs should not be used. Period.

My drummer is looking for some new crashes for metal. He hits hard on his cymbals and he broke both of his ZBT Crashes. I know ZBT sux but he is afraid he will break more cymbals. He is looking at Zildjian cymbals and he wants some that sound good with metal and are very durable. Any suggestions?

Try some A Customs and a teacher.

[MeaninglessPhoto]

Im looking for a 2nd ride. Im going to be using it for gigging. I want a crashable ride with great stick definition and a cutting bell, preferably around the 20"/21" range.

[Drum Phil]

Sweet ride?

[HeLLmO]

sweet ride, without a doubt, i'm gettin' one by the end of the year hopefully

[FooBuddy1989]

yeah i'd say sweet ride, but if you want to get better stick definition i recommend using peter erskine or dave weckl sticks

[HeLLmO]

basically, barrell tips is what your saying

[HeLLmO]

k, 1 last thing, K Custom Ride, 20'', anyone know it's crashability, i love the actual ride and bell more than the sweet ride, but lack of crashability really is a deal breaker

[We_Love_Lime]

on Zildjian the site, you are able to view I belive, riding, the bell, and crashing some cymbals.

[HeLLmO]

cool, i'll have to do that then

[We_Love_Lime]

Yeah, its where the sound clips are, theres a little tabish menu, that you bring down, and it tells you what you want hit really.

[saars]

sweet ride, without a doubt, i'm gettin' one by the end of the year hopefully



chyeah!! I love my sweet ride! :)

[FooBuddy1989]

^^^me too bro

[Static]

Blech. I hate sweet rides.

/runs

[HeLLmO]

i dunno, i'm totally torn now, i dig the sweet ride, but the K Custom ride sounds better in all aspects except i just don't know if i can crash it. SOMEONE TELL ME

[Static]

Yes. It's very crashable. Almost as much as a K Ride.

I played on two at GC. Very nice. Kinda "twangy" though. Not in a good way.

[HeLLmO]

which K ride do you have? just a regular K ride?

[Static]

Yeah.

[HeLLmO]

sweet. i think i'm gonna go with the 22'' K ride or the 20'' K Custom ride, goin' by the sound clips on Indoorstorm.com i think i'm gonna go with the K Custom

[We_Love_Lime]

the Zildjian site not working for ya Hellmo?

[HeLLmO]

well, it is, but the sound clip i'm gettin' is just a stick hitting the bow once

[mullets suk]

Are 15" New Beats any good for a good click sound when played with just the foot? Also what are there tone when they are played open and closed??

Also sabian AA 20" ride, what does that sound like, i cant get to a store to find out so any info would be great.

[HeLLmO]

k, i hate comin' to you guys with these questions, but has anyone ever played a 21'' Meinl Byzance Dark Ride, i just heard the clips on the meinl site and indoorstorm.com and i feel in love. so, who know the crashability of this ride, or dark rides in general?

[MXicanDrummer]

So ya, what cymbals pair well with Sabian AAX's?
Crashes I mean

[Seafroggys]

Are 15" New Beats any good for a good click sound when played with just the foot? Also what are there tone when they are played open and closed??


The 15" will probably be louder and darker then the 14" I own 14" myself. They are absolutly awesome, definitally go for them.

[Aaron]

I prefer the 15s to the 14s TBH. 14s are abit to meat-and-potatoes for me, but the 15s have a very nice quality to them.

[Win A Rabbit]

I don't think this deserves it's own thread, so I'll ask in here.

I'm going to drill my B8 ride, since the way it is now, I have no use for it. I'm hoping to get a usable sound out of it, because I'd love to have 2 rides, but don't have money to blow on another ride, and don't want to buy a stand for it the way it is now.

So what would you recommend as to size of holes, number of holes, placement of holes?

Honestly I don't have much preference as to what this turns out as. Chances are I won't use it anyways, but what would give me the best results?

[We_Love_Lime]

Three small holes placed closely together.

Like Peter Erskine's Left Side Ride.

[Drum Phil]

I don't think this deserves it's own thread, so I'll ask in here.

I'm going to drill my B8 ride, since the way it is now, I have no use for it. I'm hoping to get a usable sound out of it, because I'd love to have 2 rides, but don't have money to blow on another ride, and don't want to buy a stand for it the way it is now.

So what would you recommend as to size of holes, number of holes, placement of holes?

Honestly I don't have much preference as to what this turns out as. Chances are I won't use it anyways, but what would give me the best results?
I did this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/rancid_punk/Kit321.jpg

To a 16" pearl crash and this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/rancid_punk/Kit317.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/rancid_punk/Kit319.jpg

To my old pearl hats.

I used a size 4 drill bit and just drilled a nice pattern.

[Zildjian]

your crash is keyholin

[Bloodlust]

Hey guys, im looking for a china. I want something with fast decay and a nice defined "PANG" sound. I want it to be like ...dry is the word that comes to mind. I was looking at the AAXtreme china, probably and 18 incher. Any other suggestions?

[Cocaberry]

Wuhan maybe?

[Bloodlust]

Wuhan maybe?

MY local store doesn't carry wuhans.

[Drum Phil]

your crash is keyholin

I know. It came with my kit like that and i really dont care :) Its pearl. POS much?

[XAQ]

i'm looking for a ride that will be equally well adjusted in a small jazz swing ensemble and a heavy rock band, i'm currently thinking about the paiste 2002 cool ride, but i wanted to know if anyone's had any experience with it to see if it has a good jazz sound

[Kayne815]

im looking for a nice main crash that isn't too over-powering in the mix and versatile enough to be played in various musical settings. i play mostly rock and some heavier stuff.

i just find that my 18" AAX Metal Crash is too over-powering over my other drums and cymbals. so if i could find a main crash and use that as a secondary that would be great.

[drummguy731]

i'm looking for a ride that will be equally well adjusted in a small jazz swing ensemble and a heavy rock band, i'm currently thinking about the paiste 2002 cool ride, but i wanted to know if anyone's had any experience with it to see if it has a good jazz sound

K-hybrid
Paiste 22" Sig ride is good too

[drummguy731]

im looking for a nice main crash that isn't too over-powering in the mix and versatile enough to be played in various musical settings. i play mostly rock and some heavier stuff.

i just find that my 18" AAX Metal Crash is too over-powering over my other drums and cymbals. so if i could find a main crash and use that as a secondary that would be great.

18" A custom fast crash is perfect, not over-powering whatsoever

[Kayne815]

18" A custom fast crash is perfect, not over-powering whatsoever

sweet thanks. i checked it out online and it says on zildjian.com that they're 'paper thin', so would they be prone to cracking in rock playing?

[drummguy731]

umm, mine holds up perfectly, it really depends, are you much of a hard hitter?

[Kayne815]

i don't think so. I have a sabian 14" AA thin crash, and i don't hit harder that i have to. mind you i hit all my cymbals on the edge.

[drummguy731]

like, you mean you hit the outer lathing on top of the cymbal, or directly on the rim, so the cymbal hardly moves at all?

[stevensonmat2]

Thin cymbals arent prone to cracking. Theyre less likely to crack than thick ones.

[drummguy731]

yeah, but if your hitting them directly on the rim, that'll definately crack the sooner because the cymbal isn't moving at all.

[stevensonmat2]

tis word

[Kayne815]

like, you mean you hit the outer lathing on top of the cymbal, or directly on the rim, so the cymbal hardly moves at all?

i think the outer lating on top of the cymbal. hitting it directly on the rim is retarded

[TTTSNB]

:mad:i think the outer lating on top of the cymbal. hitting it directly on the rim is retarded:mad:
No, it sounds really cool actually, just don't hit it too hard.

[Kayne815]

really..............hmm i guess i never really thought of trying it. sounds cool tho. i should check it out sometime.

[Static]

I agree with TTTSNB, the sound it makes when you hit it on the rim sounds really nice. I'm a soft player, and that's what I tend to do anyways.


Hey Sean, did you go to the Nook today around 3:15?

[HeLLmO]

nope, i won't be at the nook untill next monday around 6:30.

today at 3:15 i think i was deficating

[Static]

That's real nice.

Well there was this kid there who looked a lot like you, but I didn't want to ask if his name was Sean because I'd feel stupid.

[HeLLmO]

hha, nope, it wasn't me. i don't go to the nook much except for lessons, or if i need a book, usually i go to GC because they have better selection of sticks and heads(does the nook even do heads?)

[Static]

Yes they do. Quite a selection for a store as small as the Nook.

[HeLLmO]

that i did not know, i'll have to start buyin' heads from there

[Aaron]

What is a good ride to pair with a 22" K Heavy Ride. I have a 20" crash so i DONT want a crash-ride, something with a bit of wash but complex. Not brand specific, i don't mind.

[We_Love_Lime]

I'd just say 20inch CoD.
I don't know if it even fits your discription.


Naw, but I use it as my ride. I mean since you already have a heavy ride with good stick definition, you might want to look into one. It's very verstitle in terms of dynamics, and the bell produces a somewhat regular Medium Ride ish ping sound,

But you don't want a crash/ride ( Which is what I use it for too ).
So .. Heh, that's all I got.

[Chris]

Rite, im looking into getting a new china.

I own a 18" Wuhan, and a 18" UFIP Tigar China. The thing is, neather of these is what i am looking for (the wuhan is lovely, but to trashy, and the tigar has to much attack).

I want a china that is going to be musical. Trashy but with decay.

SO what do you lot think?

Also, do you think me putting a cymbal sizzler on a 20" UFIP Class Crash(like a 20" A Crash) , would that do a job?

[raz0r]

Rite, im looking into getting a new china.

I own a 18" Wuhan, and a 18" UFIP Tigar China. The thing is, neather of these is what i am looking for (the wuhan is lovely, but to trashy, and the tigar has to much attack).

I want a china that is going to be musical. Trashy but with decay.

SO what do you lot think?

Also, do you think me putting a cymbal sizzler on a 20" UFIP Class Crash(like a 20" A Crash) , would that do a job?
2002 Novo China?

[HeLLmO]

^that's what i'm thinkin'

[chewaz]

i need a cymbal with boobs

[Drum Phil]

Rite, im looking into getting a new china.

I own a 18" Wuhan, and a 18" UFIP Tigar China. The thing is, neather of these is what i am looking for (the wuhan is lovely, but to trashy, and the tigar has to much attack).

I want a china that is going to be musical. Trashy but with decay.

SO what do you lot think?

Also, do you think me putting a cymbal sizzler on a 20" UFIP Class Crash(like a 20" A Crash) , would that do a job?

18" HHX Thin china

[HeLLmO]

i need a cymbal with boobs

34 DD Novo china

[Static]

i need a cymbal with boobs


Die.

[Zildjian]

Im looking for a china to add on to my kit. Im thinking 18". I kinda want that quality china sound but a little thrashy

Maximum about $150. any ideas?

[ludvista29]

Sabian AA

[HeLLmO]

definatly AA or AAXtreme

[Aaron]

What is a good ride to pair with a 22" K Heavy Ride. I have a 20" crash so i DONT want a crash-ride, something with a bit of wash but complex. Not brand specific, i don't mind.

What do you guys think?

[HeLLmO]

AAX stage or studio maybe? paiste 2oo2 would probably get the job done

[Aaron]

What type though? I should add, I don't play loud aggressive music.

[HeLLmO]

i'd say just like the regular, classic, 2oo2 ride. it's listed on the paiste site as "ride" though i do think the crush ride is cool

[We_Love_Lime]

What do you guys think?
I'd just say 20inch CoD.
I don't know if it even fits your discription.


Naw, but I use it as my ride. I mean since you already have a heavy ride with good stick definition, you might want to look into one. It's very verstitle in terms of dynamics, and the bell produces a somewhat regular Medium Ride ish ping sound,

But you don't want a crash/ride ( Which is what I use it for too ).
So .. Heh, that's all I got.

[HeLLmO]

the CoD is an incredible cymbal

[We_Love_Lime]

Damn Straight.
Daaaaamn Straight.

[HeLLmO]

yep. i haven't decided on how i'm gonna use mine, but when i get it, i have a feeling it will all become clear

[We_Love_Lime]

Yes.
Like an Awakaning.

[HeLLmO]

totally. i may use it as a ride, i may use it as a crash, i may use it as a specialty crash for breakdowns and accents instead of a china, i just don't know yet

[We_Love_Lime]

Hell, you could use it as a hat.

BTW, I noticed you didn't vote for me, this makes me very angry.
AHAH.
God, jk mate.

[HeLLmO]

haha, i didn't vote for you because when i clicked the thing on purevolume it wouldn't play

[We_Love_Lime]

Oh wouldn't it?
Haha, no I don't care.

Cocaberrys is probably better, I havn't gotten aroundt o listinng to it yet.
You have to click something at the top, which says Redirect to "rtoubias" page or whatever. That's might not it, you know what? I have no ****ing clue what I'm talking about. It might also have been the fact that you can't hear the ****ing background music haha.




Did you do something for it HellMo?

[HeLLmO]

haha that might be it, i didn't hear any backround music so i left, i'll go check it again

well ****, i listened to it, and i probably would have voted for it. damn

[We_Love_Lime]

Haha , no worries.
It wasn't great.

It sounded like ****e, but oh well.
Maybe BB would be kind enough to 1) Do a new competition shortly after the finish of this one
2) Do like a second round thing, with the top three from each, and than they a) create a new beat, b) keep their existing.

[HeLLmO]

i wouldn't mind another comp, because i'm goin' into a studio at the end of the month, so i would have the means to enter it

[We_Love_Lime]

That's cool, neither would I, I have some rad ideas lately, learning some sweet things. I also figured maybe I would be smart enough to put the background music this time.

I just hope people don't single mine out because theres no background music, I think they get the hint how the song goes, but if they don't , it was my bad anyways.

[HeLLmO]

yea, like, i've listened to it enough times to know how it goes, i've even played to it once or twice, just the bare track

[We_Love_Lime]

Yeah.

[Brandwhore]

Im looking for a real loud crash that will carry and cut. Prefer to stay zildjian (yea yea i know) cos ive had so much success with it so far. I have a 18in A custom fast crash thats almost there but looking for something larger and more sustain. Any ideas?

[stevensonmat2]

Try the regular A custom crash. Or maybe the 16", that thing sings and cuts thru nicely. Any of the regular customs have good sustain and a full sound. Also, go here and you can listen to sound clips of all zildjia ncymbals. http://zildjian.com/EN-US/products/default.ad2

[HeLLmO]

just get an 18 or 19'' regular A Custom crash

[Brandwhore]

what about projections? would i be a complete dumbass to have an 18 inch fast crash and an 18 inch projection?

[HeLLmO]

you wouldn't be a dumb ***, but, IMO the regular A Custom(which is medium weight) sounds alot better than the projection(which i belive is a heavier weight)

[Drum Phil]

I have a K Custom fast crash and an AAXplosion (almost the equivalent to the projection crash) and they go really well together

[Aaron]

What is a good ride to pair with a 22" K Heavy Ride. I have a 20" crash so i DONT want a crash-ride, something with a bit of wash but complex. Not brand specific, i don't mind.
I've decided; I went to a music store that stocks alot of cymbals and bashed around on about forty-five. I'm going to shortly buy the 20" HHX Legacy Ozone Ride as my second ride. Beautiful, almost china-like cinnamon-toned cymbal. Complex and tasty with an edge of sweetness running through it. I'm in love, oh yes, i'm in love.

[We_Love_Lime]

Nice choice Aaron.
My drum dude has the Ozone Crash and it is oh so oh so nice.

[Aaron]

I looked at the Ozone Crash, and if they did a traditionally finished hand-hammered version I'd go it. I think it'd improve it muchly.

[We_Love_Lime]

Do you?
I wouldn't know...

[Aaron]

Make it trashier.

[enishi]

im getting another crash, size 18,
what crash can go along with my 18" K custom dark and 16" Avedis
im thinking of 18" A custom
i play funk/rock
thanks.
others? pls specify:naughty: :naughty:

[enishi]

you wouldn't be a dumb ***, but, IMO the regular A Custom(which is medium weight) sounds alot better than the projection(which i belive is a heavier weight)

i believe regular A customs are thin

A custom
A custom projection
A custom mediums

[Drum Phil]

Aye it goes:

Fast crash (paper thin)
Custom crash (thin)
Projection crash (medium thin)
Medium crash (medium)

[HeLLmO]

really? hmm, i would have expected the projection crash to be heavier

[Drum Phil]

Nope projections are the same weight as AAXplosions

[Aaron]

im getting another crash, size 18,
what crash can go along with my 18" K custom dark and 16" Avedis
im thinking of 18" A custom
i play funk/rock
thanks.
others? pls specify:naughty: :naughty:

18" K Custom Fast Crash

[We_Love_Lime]

CIE Vintage perhaps too as well.

[Aaron]

was thinking that too, but rock needs a clearer sound. still would be cool for an older style of funk [ie meters]

[enishi]

18" K Custom Fast Crash
why is that?

models here are very limited.
they sell only some of K customs,Acustoms,A,zbt,zxt,aax,aa,HHX,

[Aaron]

Well its not completely clean and crisp, so it wont stand out, but its abit louder and brighter than the others but not by too much to be out of place. think HHX

[We_Love_Lime]

Yeah, but it being 18 might make it project more, and I don't know.
They're just amazing cymbals so heh...

[boss]

i have a 16 and 18" HHX stage crash and a 20" AAX stage crash

i need something that will make a smooth transition between the 18 and 20

thanks!

[Drum Phil]

18" HHX power crash?

Brighter and more powerful than the HHX stage but less so than the AAX

[We_Love_Lime]

i have a 16 and 18" HHX stage crash and a 20" AAX stage crash

i need something that will make a smooth transition between the 18 and 20

thanks!

maybe a 19 AAX/HHX Stage Crash...

Heh?

Smartass is Lime.

[Drum Phil]

19" HAX stage crash?

[We_Love_Lime]

Yeah.

I was wondering how I could combine the two..
I realised after 4 seconds that it wasn't worth it.

I'm glad you spent some time and energy into it though.

[Drum Phil]

Time? Theres a forum called Haxed. It took no time

To "hax" something in my town is to steal it.

[We_Love_Lime]

Oh.
Is Post 4388 supposed to be a joke?
Or humourous?

I didn't get it.

[Drum Phil]

Nope its a true story.

Like i said, to Hax something is to steal it. Like if i stole your pen i'd say "haxed"

[We_Love_Lime]

Ahh.

[chewaz]

is it true that the newer paistes tend to crack more often than the older ones??

[Seafroggys]

is it true that the newer paistes tend to crack more often than the older ones??

i sure hope not, i just bought one!

[drummguy731]

ok, paiste sigs, tell me bout them, durability, sound, everything you guys know/feel about them

[Chester]

I think the paiste sig crashes are some of the best out there... sound wise, im sure the durability would be fine.

[HeLLmO]

i've actually heard the durability isn't totally amazing with paistes in general, but i'm sure as long as proper technique and wooden sticks are involved they will be fine

[herostyle]

Recommendatin of AAX Hi-Hats?

[Drum Phil]

Stage hats

[the secret robot]

I'm looking for a good crash...I'm embarking on a shoegaze musical adventure and need a new crash fo sho. It pretty much just has to fit in with a 2002 ride...I'm replacing everything else. And do well in a possibly not-very-well miced, very small venue. Kthx.

[HeLLmO]

...maybe a 2oo2 crash? that would definatly fit with a 2oo2 ride. if you don't have that kind of cash, i'd say AAX stage crash or AAXplosion would be good.

[Time]

I've got a 20" K Custom Ride and 14" New Beats. I'm looking for a crash (preferably 18 or bigger) that will compliment that set up, because my 16 XS20 Med thin crash isnt quite doing it for me. i like the paiste sig 18 fast crash, any other suggestions? thanks.

[HeLLmO]

that sounds good, or maybe an A/A Custom/K custom, possibly and AAX Dark Crash, or maybe a nice Meinl Byzance medium crash

[Aaron]

I've got a 20" K Custom Ride and 14" New Beats. I'm looking for a crash (preferably 18 or bigger) that will compliment that set up, because my 16 XS20 Med thin crash isnt quite doing it for me. i like the paiste sig 18 fast crash, any other suggestions? thanks.

I'd get an 18" K Crash-Ride if you want to keep the 16" in there, if not an 18" HHX Power Crash or Stage Crash

[Sabian4015]

18" A Custom.

Or AAXplosion

[the secret robot]

...maybe a 2oo2 crash? that would definatly fit with a 2oo2 ride. if you don't have that kind of cash, i'd say AAX stage crash or AAXplosion would be good.

K thanks, I will definately go try some out.

[Tim]

18" A Custom.

Or AAXplosion

i like both but i prefer the plosion. i have one myself. =)

[Cocaberry]

Recommendatin of AAX Hi-Hats?

Definitely Stage Hats.

[Chris]

Im looking for a splash/small crash.

I want it to be versatile, 'musical' sounding, bright and sort of 'explosive'.

I already have a 12'' UFIP Brilliant (like a A Custom), and a 8'' Stagg SH (real trashy).

I would get a UFIP class, but they are harder and harder to get at the moment.

Any ideas? Im thinking either a 10'' splash (have no idea what type) or a 14'' A Thin? Crash.

[HeLLmO]

AAX splashes are mad versitile. if they may A Custom fast splashes i'd imagine they would be too

[We_Love_Lime]

15 Azuka Crash.
It's like an oversized Splash, very Musical. Very like Buttery...

And maybe like a 16 CIE Vintage or a 14/15 A Fast Crash.

[Aaron]

15" Paiste Traditional Crash maybe? They're pretty subtle

[We_Love_Lime]

Yeah, something small and thin.

[Aaron]

istanbul 14" traditional¿

[Tim]

Im looking for a splash/small crash.

I want it to be versatile, 'musical' sounding, bright and sort of 'explosive'.

I already have a 12'' UFIP Brilliant (like a A Custom), and a 8'' Stagg SH (real trashy).

I would get a UFIP class, but they are harder and harder to get at the moment.

Any ideas? Im thinking either a 10'' splash (have no idea what type) or a 14'' A Thin? Crash.


explosive? musical? bright you say?

AAXplosion in a smaller size. 15inch.

[etw20002]

i need new cymbols (badly), but i dont have that much money, so im just wondering which cymbols are the best out of the cheap packs from paiste, zildjian and sabian. if there are any others that are good let me know.

PS: i like bright sounding hats and crashes and a darker ride.

[We_Love_Lime]

Wuhan?

If your on a budget.

Don't buy cheap Packs, like Solar, Zbt/Zxt/Zxti.

I heard that Sabian b8s were the best beginner pack for your money, but You're not going to neccesarrily get a bright sounding hat and some crashes and a dark sounding ride with that.

Pst5 by Paiste is supposed to be good as well.

If you tell us your budget maybe you could help us out more?

[etw20002]

my budget is basically about 200 bucks, and i could go with just some hats and 2 crashes, just because my ride isn't that bad haha.

[We_Love_Lime]

well with 200 you might be able to buy a full pack of Wuhans, yeah probably.

You might be able to find a used pair of high hats ( New Beats ) for like 1 30, and maybe a crash for the other 70, but that's it.

Cymbals are expensive, I'd suggest saving up like a lot a lot, and than buying them each individually, but if you really ned some cymbals. Wuhan.

[Tim]

my budget is basically about 200 bucks, and i could go with just some hats and 2 crashes, just because my ride isn't that bad haha.


get some good hihats...worry about crashes later. bump that up to like $230 and get some basic high level hihats like A series or AAX

[etw20002]

sweet, thanks a lot guys.

what other hats have that intense "chick"ie bright sound?

[We_Love_Lime]

A Custom Mastersounds?

A Customs are supposed to be bright.
I heard K/Z Dyno Beats are failry good.

[saars]

Hey guys, what are your thoughts on the 19" Z (not Z custom) Rock Crash? Will it work well with my 18" AAXplosion and 21" sweet ride?

[HeLLmO]

Z, hmm, that's old school, which means probably vintage, which will probably sound good. i definatly think it would fit with the AAXplosion

[bobby__johnny]

probably would work....i'd advise against it though. the AAXplosion is a quick burst, no a whole lot of sustain...that monster on the otherhand, is a heavier crash, and big....thats gonna roar nice and highpitched like....

your best bet is an AAX stage crash...maybe a 17" or 18" model

[HeLLmO]

Bobby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


gives hetero e-hug

[bobby__johnny]

heh.....nice to see a thread from a bajillion years ago is still going

[HeLLmO]

yep. cymbal finder=happiness

[saars]

probably would work....i'd advise against it though. the AAXplosion is a quick burst, no a whole lot of sustain...that monster on the otherhand, is a heavier crash, and big....thats gonna roar nice and highpitched like....

your best bet is an AAX stage crash...maybe a 17" or 18" model

damnit, I found a great deal on the Z crash and I really didn't want to pass it up. =l

[MeaninglessPhoto]

older Z's were really good. I like some of the Z Customs too. How much was the Z?

[saars]

It's going for 100 USD. I'm still considering on buying it.:)

[yama_stage_advantage]

ok so... im ordering on friday new hats help me choose the best.wich of these one will give me a good live and studio sound and good stick definition

1.A custom mastersound 14
2.2002 medium hats
3.a custom hats 14

[stylers_new_account]

i would go with 1. but i havent tried 2.

[HeLLmO]

the 2oo2s or the regular A Customs

[bobby__johnny]

actually, of the 3 - neither.

look into something like A. Zildjian Quick beats/AA Fusion hats.

those are the meaning of Definition, and sound great in studio

[Seafroggys]

everybody knows the definition of the high-hat are New Beats :cool:

Bobby, now that you are here, you can help me with this, since not many people did when I last posted this. I have two crashes, an 18" AA Medium Crash, and an 18" 2002 Classic Crash. I want a third crash that would contrast these two bright rock crashes by being mellow and dark, but it shouldn't clash tonally where I can't use it in direct conjunction with the two other crashes. pretty much, a darker alternative. Looking maybe in the 17" range, its not small enough to be buried by the two 18 inchers but also have some variety in my cymbal sizes :D

Someone has suggested Paiste Sigs, wondering what you would think as well.

[HeLLmO]

amen my man, Quick Beats are insane, if i werent gettin' AAX sizzle hats, i'd totally be gettin' those

[stylers_new_account]

actually, of the 3 - neither.

look into something like A. Zildjian Quick beats/AA Fusion hats.

those are the meaning of Definition, and sound great in studio

well if were going out of the three i would go for 15" paiste giant beats.

chick, stick definition, and studio performance galore!

[saars]

out of those? I'd go for the 2002's. They're so crisp!

[Aaron]

everybody knows the definition of the high-hat are New Beats :cool:

Bobby, now that you are here, you can help me with this, since not many people did when I last posted this. I have two crashes, an 18" AA Medium Crash, and an 18" 2002 Classic Crash. I want a third crash that would contrast these two bright rock crashes by being mellow and dark, but it shouldn't clash tonally where I can't use it in direct conjunction with the two other crashes. pretty much, a darker alternative. Looking maybe in the 17" range, its not small enough to be buried by the two 18 inchers but also have some variety in my cymbal sizes :D

Someone has suggested Paiste Sigs, wondering what you would think as well.

K Custom Special Dry Crash in 17" or 18" would go well. They're mellow as

[MeaninglessPhoto]

Im looking for a certain china. A china with a warm, quiet tone with a litle bit of swishyness to it.

[We_Love_Lime]

Uhm.

K China?
Or a Swish Knocker?

Or Jeff Hamilton's uhh Hammer is it? Signature Bosphorus China, that thing sounds like sex on his drummerworld video.

[MeaninglessPhoto]

I was actually thinking about a K china. Im going up to GC tommorrow and try one out if they have em. Im thinking 19"

[We_Love_Lime]

I think that's the one I played.

Good Idea Meaningless.

[bobby__johnny]

everybody knows the definition of the high-hat are New Beats :cool:

Bobby, now that you are here, you can help me with this, since not many people did when I last posted this. I have two crashes, an 18" AA Medium Crash, and an 18" 2002 Classic Crash. I want a third crash that would contrast these two bright rock crashes by being mellow and dark, but it shouldn't clash tonally where I can't use it in direct conjunction with the two other crashes. pretty much, a darker alternative. Looking maybe in the 17" range, its not small enough to be buried by the two 18 inchers but also have some variety in my cymbal sizes :D

Someone has suggested Paiste Sigs, wondering what you would think as well.

HHX Stage crash....try a few out, in different sizes if you can. they'll be dark, but punchy. should fit right in

[Seafroggys]

cool I'll try those out next time I'm in a shop. :thumb:

[Tim]

cool I'll try those out next time I'm in a shop. :thumb:


if you can try hhxplosions as well. those things are jesus in a cymbal.

[Leprechauns1021]

What crash would compliment an AAXplosion 17"? I kinda want something different, I love the crash, but I want a darker sounding crash for just those occasions.

Also to upgrade my Yamaha cymbals, I'm thinking of getting 13" New Beats and a 20" Dry Light Ride. Sound good to you guys? I trust your advice.


Thankss

[Drum Phil]

I find my 16" K Custom fast crash goes well with my 19" AAXplosion

However i imagine a HHX power crash or HHXplosion will work as well/better.

[bobby__johnny]

What crash would compliment an AAXplosion 17"? I kinda want something different, I love the crash, but I want a darker sounding crash for just those occasions.

Also to upgrade my Yamaha cymbals, I'm thinking of getting 13" New Beats and a 20" Dry Light Ride. Sound good to you guys? I trust your advice.


Thankss

my suggestions:

new ride
new hats
worry about complementing crash

in that order

as far as hats, 13" NB's are great.

the ride, probably wont fit in that well with the hats or crash.

your better off with a ride thats a tad heavier instead

start with a 20" Medium ride, and take it from there if its too defined/not defined enough.

[Seafroggys]

I did....

then again, the hats and ride that I started with were pretty good in their own right (Wuhans)

[We_Love_Lime]

what are you talking about froggys?

;).

Honostly though, I think the hats and rides are the most important.
It just doesn't make sence to have ****e hats and ride and than whore out some Oreitnal China Trash and an AAXplosion.

[Leprechauns1021]

Yea i was gonna upgrade my hats and ride first, which is why i had something in mind for them and I didnt have an idea on where to go with my crash.

[Seafroggys]

what are you talking about froggys?

;).

As in I added crashes before I began replacing my hats and ride (and I still have the original ride).

[We_Love_Lime]

nvm.
I don't think you got my joke.

But yeah I forgot what I did.

[stylers_new_account]

What crash would compliment an AAXplosion 17"? I kinda want something different, I love the crash, but I want a darker sounding crash for just those occasions.

Also to upgrade my Yamaha cymbals, I'm thinking of getting 13" New Beats and a 20" Dry Light Ride. Sound good to you guys? I trust your advice.


Thankss

ive got the 20" k custom dry light ride. i honestly dont much care for it. go for either the dry ride or the light ride. they sound nasty together.

[HeLLmO]

i'm lookin' for a 14'' china, fairly trashsy, that's quick, and i can ride on it, i was thinkin' 14'' zildjian oriental china trash, but suggestions are appreciated

[We_Love_Lime]

I was thinking that too.
China Kang?

[bobby__johnny]

nah, kangs arent what he seems to be looking for.

14" or 16" china is what your looking for.

[We_Love_Lime]

Oh Okay.

Heh.

[HeLLmO]

yea, kangs are good, but they don't project too much, and helpful pointers in the right direction bobby johnny?

i'm quite taken with the 14'' HHX evo mini china, but i know that's kind of a thin cymbal, so i don't know if it could take a beating

[Bloodlust]

hey guys, im looking for a china. I play metal type music (as i lay dying. job for a cowboy, through the eyes of the dead etc.) Im looking for a nice trashy china that can be used to crash on a lot. Some chinas i was looking into are the 17inch AAXtreme, 18 inch AA china, and the 18 inch zildjian orietnal. What would be best do you think and do you have any other suggestions?

[Cocaberry]

18" or 20" AA or AAX china.

AA for a more full sound.
AAX for a brighter sound.

Your choice.

[Bloodlust]

whats the difference between a AAX china and an AAXtreme china?

[Drum Phil]

AAXtreme has a quicker decay i beleive.

[Cocaberry]

Yeah, it's a little faster and not as trashy as the AAX or AA Chinas.

[bobby__johnny]

actually, i find that the AAXtremes put out quite a bit more trash than the standard base model Chinese's that Sabian puts out.

i usually find that the trashier the sound is, the faster.

take wuhans for example, those things are mega trashy. my AA Chinese on the otherhand, its a more smooth sounding than the Xtreme models, but with a nice dirty sound at the same time. has quite a bit of sustain

[Drum Phil]

Yeah i find the AAXtreme to be really trashy. Not sure i like it.

Im all about the HHX chinas

[Plan B.]

The regular AAX China is so smooth and un-brash it's much more like a splashy China. The 16" inch version decays rather slowly and can fill up a suprisingly large amount of space when you ride on it solo for like heavy metal beats (you don't have to put ANY power into your strokes though).

[Aaron]

Yeah i find the AAXtreme to be really trashy. Not sure i like it.

Im all about the HHX chinas
Yeah. The 20" HHX is THE modern china sound.

[White Riot!]

The 18" Meinl Amun is a great pick

http://www.meinlcymbals.com/cymbals_images/meinl_cymbals_big/A18CH_b.jpg

[TTTSNB]

The regular AAX China is so smooth and un-brash it's much more like a splashy China. The 16" inch version decays rather slowly and can fill up a suprisingly large amount of space when you ride on it solo for like heavy metal beats (you don't have to put ANY power into your strokes though).
That's true, but I still like mine. It has a certain sustain to it that sounds great in certain situations. It has also begun to sound trashier with age.

[Kayne815]

yo im looking at replacing the meinyl bronze laser hats that came with my kit because i dont really fancy the sound of em. i play mosltly rock, but i might like something a little versatile. that has a great open sound. nice clean chick. just a great overall set of hats. id be nice if they could project a lot in live playing situations. thanks

[drummguy731]

A custom top/Z dyno beat bottom

[Seafroggys]

yo im looking at replacing the meinyl bronze laser hats that came with my kit because i dont really fancy the sound of em. i play mosltly rock, but i might like something a little versatile. that has a great open sound. nice clean chick. just a great overall set of hats. id be nice if they could project a lot in live playing situations. thanks

New Beats

[bobby__johnny]

AA Regular Hats. :thumb:

[HeLLmO]

or AAX Stage, or Quick Beats.


yo no me gusta New Beats. yo me gusta viejo new beats, pero no me gusta New Beats nuevo

[Leprechauns1021]

lol thats not the best spanish in the world ya know

[Tim]

yo no me gusta New Beats. yo me gusta viejo new beats, pero no me gusta New Beats nuevo


hahaha

viejo new beats. hahaha

[HeLLmO]

viejo is old right? god, i just re-learned this stuff 2 weeks ago i should remember this

[Static]

You're still a tool.

[HeLLmO]

you still live in milford. and i'll be at the nook tuesday so i may just have to hunt you down

[Cocaberry]

Which ride has more wash: A Sweet Ride or AAX Stage Ride?

[HeLLmO]

sweet ride is probably the washiest ride i've ever heard, and i've heard the AAX stage ride

[bobby__johnny]

definatly the sweet ride. far bigger bell = more overtones

more overtones = more wash

[HeLLmO]

and if i remember correctly the AAX stage ride has a fairly small bell

[Tim]

and if i remember correctly the AAX stage ride has a fairly small bell

indeed it is quite small. good amounts of wash to it. not my taste though.

[bobby__johnny]

heh, you think THAT has a small bell?

when i go home next weekend, i'll take a shot of the bell on my AAX Dry Ride....THAT is a small bell

[We_Love_Lime]

My bell is small.

[drummguy731]

^^ poor lime, ok, anyone dealt with the A custom top/Z dyno beat bottom hi hats, would you suggest those over A custom hats? Or the other way around?

[We_Love_Lime]

I havn't , but I'm thinking the a/z would be a bit louder, more chick.

[drummguy731]

I need more chic, I'm playing some jazz stuffs

[Drum Phil]

Im lookin for the heaviest 10" splash any of you can find me.

Im assuming it'd be a meinl MB20 but im open to suggestions from any company. Failing that i'll get one custom hammered.

[Static]

Meinl MB20. That's it.

[bobby__johnny]

Im lookin for the heaviest 10" splash any of you can find me.

Im assuming it'd be a meinl MB20 but im open to suggestions from any company. Failing that i'll get one custom hammered.

AAX Metal Splash
Paiste RUDE Splash

[Drum Phil]

Hadnt thought of the rudes.

I didnt know they did em in 10"

[Panopticon]

heh, you think THAT has a small bell?

when i go home next weekend, i'll take a shot of the bell on my AAX Dry Ride....THAT is a small bell

The AA Tight Ride has a pretty damn small bell.

[Drum Phil]

The K Custom flat ride has a tiny bell.

[Tim]

The K Custom flat ride has a tiny bell.

harrharr.


im looking for a cymbal to get soon. not sure what yet. im thinking maybe an 18inch crash. THats pretty much what im leaning towards actually but im not sure what to get. I have:

18inch AAXplosioncrash
16inch AAXstage crash
18inch AA chinese
14inch AAX stage hats
12inch wuhan splashes used as hihats
21inch AA raw bell dry ride.


any suggestions on a crash taht would go with these? im thinking just to get another AAX stage in an 18inch or beef it up to like an hhxplosion or something.

[HeLLmO]

maybe an 18'' AAX dark crash? i'm gonna get one of those to replace my AA Metal X eventually.

or maybe a vault?

[Static]

18" K Custom Dark Crash.

[Cocaberry]

18" AAX Stage Crash.

[Sabian4015]

Ok well I'm looking for a third crash. I've got a 17" AAX Studio Crash and a AA 18" Thin Crash. 16" or 19" is what I'm looking for a think. Price range isn't exacly a factor, as long as it's not like 350 USD.

[Cocaberry]

19" AAX Studio Crash maybe?

[Aaron]

Maybe an 18" Ozone Crash for abit of trashiness.