*** The Cymbal Finder ***

[slickrick1688]

Yeah, the dark energy rides own!

EDIT: W00t, post 4000 in this thread!

[Chris]

Im more into the MKII's tbh
Na, i didnt like the sound clip as much.

The only downside I can see is are they really worth nealy £100 more then the K Rides. Which is leaning me more towards a K.

[chewaz]

paiste soundedges (2002 and signature) for wich styles would you use them?

[raz0r]

Na, i didnt like the sound clip as much.

The only downside I can see is are they really worth nealy £100 more then the K Rides. Which is leaning me more towards a K.
They may cost £100 more, but that's because they're about £100 better than a K ride.
I'm planning on eventually getting either a 22" Signature Dry Heavy (custom order) or a 22" Dark Energy Mark II ride for my primary ride, and moving the sweet ride to an aux position.
Those rides are just so damn awesome.

[Chris]

^^

True, but im going to wait and see. Im just going to go there (in two weeks), and try with my ears, and see which goes better with my hats. I have a basic sound in mind, and hoep I dont come away with something I will regret.

[Kuplgalvis]

what do you say about sabian vault artisan ride??? Is it worth that money...I want very clear and bright sound!!!

[HeLLmO]

vault artisan rides are very jazzy rides. if you want bright, u might be better of with the regular Vault ride or a A Custom ride

[static]

umm....damn.....uhh......well......get the vaults and the quick beats.....then give me the quick beats.

seriously though, play all 3 and buy which ever you like, because they are all great hats


I've played all of them minus the Quickies, but I'll try those the next time I go to guitar center. What type of sound do they have?

[HeLLmO]

well, i'm not sure exactly how to describe it, but somethin' is up on the bottom hat, i can't recall if it is drilled, or if the edges are wavy, but you get a very fast sound with a very good chick. they're very versitile, and just sound great

[Drum Phil]

I thought it used an A/A Custom fast crash as the top hat.

Bottoms driiled. AAXcellerator style

[HeLLmO]

I thought it used an A/A Custom fast crash as the top hat.

Bottoms driiled. AAXcellerator style

i've heard something like that too. i think it's an A fast crash considering the quick beats are in the A line. either way i love 'em

[static]

Are they bright? Like no wash and a nice clean and tight closed stick sound?

[HeLLmO]

Are they bright? Like no wash and a nice clean and tight closed stick sound?

yep, not much wash, very clean, good open sound, they are just great hats

[youturn]

Hey I'm looking for pro-level Hi-Hats and a pro-level Crash. I don't have any decent quality cymbals as it is, so right now I don't have to match them with any existing cymbals. But I'm trying to find cymbals which fit most styles, but they can tilt towards rock. I also much prefer cymbals with tone. My budget is something like $300 AU for the hats and $300 AU for the crash, but I could (but obviously dont want to) stretch the budget on the hats to $500. I'm thinking of getting HHX Evolution 14" Hats and a Meinl Byzance 16" Crash, which I think are out of the budget, which means I should start looking for bargains here and there. Do you think these would suit what I'm looking for, or would you suggest something else? Thanks in advance.

[static]

Yes.

[chewaz]

what do you think of the 2002 medium hats?

[HeLLmO]

i think they are sexy, but not as sexy as 2oo2 soundedges

[enishi]

hey peeps, im about to buy my 3rd crash, and im thinking of getting an 18" A custom crash to blend wit my K custom.
i currently have 16" A medium crash and 18" K custom dark crash.

im stuck between these 2.
17" or 18" A custom crash.
others? pls specify
ARIGATOU!:chug:

[HeLLmO]

maybe an 18'' K Dark Crash(or a 18 Meinl Byzance regular finish Dark Crash, because it will be cheaper on massmusic)

[enishi]

maybe an 18'' K Dark Crash(or a 18 Meinl Byzance regular finish Dark Crash, because it will be cheaper on massmusic)

hey,in our country,theres no dealer of meinl cymbals. zildjian K series here are also very few (hard to find) very limited. thanks anyway.:)

[HeLLmO]

what country are you in? it must suck if you can't find many meinls

[enishi]

what country are you in? it must suck if you can't find many meinls

philippines.i just only see zildjians sabians and paistes.

btw,im selling my gretsch catalina birch snare(almost new w/ remo snareside amb). and im wondering how much i would sell it.

[Mitch2oo6]

On the topic of meinls, ship one from AUS, it shouldnt be too expensive.
Ive got one. Its ok, not to bad I guess..

[enishi]

cheap but, when it enters to our country, customs and tax are waiting..lol i mean BIG taxes.

[HeLLmO]

well, that blows ***, look at K's, K Customs, HH and HHX then. as for the snare, you can pick up between 150-215 US, don't know what the currency in the phillipines is though

[enishi]

our currency.
1 USD = 52 PHP
1 PHP = 1pc of candy
HH(X),Ks are too expensive for my budget right now.
lol.i might get an 18" A custom. love the sound.
thanks.

[Mitch2oo6]

The phillipines is great, you spend five dollars and get a nice piece of furniture. But of course, because of the wood you cant ship it back :-\

[static]

our currency.
1 USD = 52 PHP
1 PHP = 1pc of candy


:lol:

[Sabian4015]

Anyone have any opinions on these K hybrid cymbals? They're pretty expensive, and their Zildjian K, so I excpect them to be hella good but does anyone own them or has anyone heard them in person?

[Inpropagation]

if you had no spending limit, what hi hats would you get?

[billy_spleen]

Hey everyone,

I'm looking for a new ride. I want one that will be crashable and will go well with my 16" K Medium Thin Dark Crash. Price will not really be a problem, as I won't be buying right-away, so i can save up.

Thanks :)

[Chris]

Anyone have any opinions on these K hybrid cymbals? They're pretty expensive, and their Zildjian K, so I excpect them to be hella good but does anyone own them or has anyone heard them in person?

Im looking into getting a china. They seems like a good idea.

[enishi]

:lol:
lol,really, things here(musical instruments) are really really expensive. sabian 16" aaxplosion is like 230$
im buying 18" A custom for 216$ aw no choice.

[HeLLmO]

if you had no spending limit, what hi hats would you get?

Zildjian Quick Beats, Paiste Signature Soundedge, Paiste 2oo2 Soundedge

[Inpropagation]

Zildjian Quick Beats, Paiste Signature Soundedge, Paiste 2oo2 Soundedge

Are the paiste dark energy 14" mk1 hats good?

[HeLLmO]

haven't gotten to try them yet, but i haven't heard anything bad about them

[Leprechauns1021]

What are the best High Hats for rock style drumming? I was debating between Zildjian New Beats or Mastersound, but I'm open to anything else.

[Chester]

there is no "best"

I personally like AAX Stage hats, zildjian quick beats, and tons of differnet paiste models, try them out in a store and see what you like best. The ones you mentioned are fine.

[Seafroggys]

What are the best High Hats for rock style drumming? I was debating between Zildjian New Beats or Mastersound, but I'm open to anything else.

MASTERSOUNDS! THOSE KICK ***! :thumb:

[Used666]

Hey guys what would you reccommend me for general purpose cymbals but mainly rock sorta stuff, im looking for a set of high hats, a ride, and a crash, not really looking to spend too much (will spend what it takes though) as my drum set is a ludwig begginner set, thanks in advance


Im thinking about these http://cgi.ebay.com/Zildjian-ZXT-Rock-Cymbal-Free-Cymbal-stand-ship-more_W0QQitemZ160007129902QQihZ006QQcategoryZ47083 QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem BUT i really dont know much about cymbals and ive only been playing like seriously a month now (tryna get into drums, im a guitarist though), looking to spend about the price of these also

[static]

Nononononono.

Stay clear of ZBT, ZXT, B8, and PST cymbals. Personally, I think you should buy yourself an advanced set of hats and a ride, if you have the money that is. And if this is something you know you'll be doing for a long time, just get advanced cymbals. Beginner cymbals are a waste of money.

Look for-
Zildjian K, K Custom, A, A Custom
Sabian AA, AAX, HHX, HH, Vault
Paiste Signature, Traditional, Rude, 2002, New Signature
Meinl (Sean can elaborate)
Bosphorus
Istanbul
Alchemy

All those make great advanced cymbals.

Otherwise, go Wuhan.

[Used666]

Can you suggest me specifics?

As in which specific brands and models for which specific cymbal, i appreciate the help

[enishi]

MASTERSOUNDS! THOSE KICK ***! :thumb:

OMG miracle!
u didnt choose NEW BEATS!:lol:

[HeLLmO]

Nononononono.

Stay clear of ZBT, ZXT, B8, and PST cymbals. Personally, I think you should buy yourself an advanced set of hats and a ride, if you have the money that is. And if this is something you know you'll be doing for a long time, just get advanced cymbals. Beginner cymbals are a waste of money.

Look for-
Zildjian K, K Custom, A, A Custom
Sabian AA, AAX, HHX, HH, Vault
Paiste Signature, Traditional, Rude, 2002, New Signature
Meinl (Sean can elaborate)
Bosphorus
Istanbul
Alchemy

All those make great advanced cymbals.

Otherwise, go Wuhan.

I <3 Meinl, Byzance are incredible, buy them, they sound like Ks and K Customs, but their cheaper, so they kick ***. but i have to disagree with u on 1 thing george, PST5s are actually really great cymbals, ask Thugs(where ever he is, i do not know, but if you find him you can ask him).

how do A Mastersounds sound(not A Customs, but As) i'm gettin' new hats soon, and i haven't seen A Mastersounds around, so i can't try them myself(though i'm probably just gettin' 13'' sig dry crisp hats or 13'' sig soundedges)

[HeLLmO]

Hey guys what would you reccommend me for general purpose cymbals but mainly rock sorta stuff, im looking for a set of high hats, a ride, and a crash, not really looking to spend too much (will spend what it takes though) as my drum set is a ludwig begginner set, thanks in advance


Im thinking about these http://cgi.ebay.com/Zildjian-ZXT-Rock-Cymbal-Free-Cymbal-stand-ship-more_W0QQitemZ160007129902QQihZ006QQcategoryZ47083 QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem BUT i really dont know much about cymbals and ive only been playing like seriously a month now (tryna get into drums, im a guitarist though), looking to spend about the price of these also

if you can spring some cash, i would look into A/A Custom, or AA/AAX packs, because your gonna get great cymbals(i think the A pack is new beats, medium crash and medium ride, and the A custom is regular hats, medium crash, medium ride, and AA is the same as A Custom pack, and AAX you get stage hats, stage crash and stage ride(i think)

if you want to buy seperatly, then look into all the above mentioned cymbals, but also check out meinl stuff like Amun(good cymbals, fairly cheap), Byzance, and the soundcasters/soundcaster custom, for paiste, 2oo2 and Sig are all you will ever need, but sigs are EXPENSIVE

[static]

if you can spring some cash, i would look into A/A Custom, or AA/AAX packs, because your gonna get great cymbals(i think the A pack is new beats, medium crash and medium ride, and the A custom is regular hats, medium crash, medium ride, and AA is the same as A Custom pack, and AAX you get stage hats, stage crash and stage ride(i think)

if you want to buy seperatly, then look into all the above mentioned cymbals, but also check out meinl stuff like Amun(good cymbals, fairly cheap), Byzance, and the soundcasters/soundcaster custom, for paiste, 2oo2 and Sig are all you will ever need, but sigs are EXPENSIVE

The PST5s are the best beginner cymbals, but I was referring to the PST3s. Personally, if I had to, I would get a B8 Ride, PST5 hats, and Wuhan crashes.

And your packs are correct, as far as I know.

[HeLLmO]

oh right, the PST3s, yea, they are pretty bad. i've never played a B8 ride though, when my parents got me my first kit i got the B8 pack that had 14'' hats and an 18'' crash/ride

[static]

Hey fellerss, how would a 14" New Beat/14" Quick Beat sound? The dude from TMV uses the 13" version, and they sound great.

Chyeah.

[HeLLmO]

14'' quick beats sound just incredible, they are my 2nd favorite hi hats, next to sig dark crisp hats, 14'' new beats don't sound as incredible IMO.

[Seafroggys]

OMG miracle!
u didnt choose NEW BEATS!:lol:

/sarcasm

I shouldn't confuse these newbs, they wouldn't understand.

[enishi]

:lol:

[static]

Yess. Just picked up from 13" A Customs from Guitar Center for only $240 plus the 2 year warranty for $20. That's internet price. Sweet.

[Chris]

Rite, can some one help me in finding out what ride this is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBwfe3TBDO8
That is the only top view i have ever found.

I love the sound of his ride, and and trying to guess what it is, but cant.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MZRLxYtoDY
Another listen/view, but still cant see the model.

[Seafroggys]

Yess. Just picked up from 13" A Customs from Guitar Center for only $240 plus the 2 year warranty for $20. That's internet price. Sweet.

you got ripped from that warranty.

[Cocaberry]

Rite, can some one help me in finding out what ride this is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBwfe3TBDO8
That is the only top view i have ever found.

I love the sound of his ride, and and trying to guess what it is, but cant.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MZRLxYtoDY
Another listen/view, but still cant see the model.

I only watched the first video.

Since that ride is very crashable it is probably medium weight.

If you look closely, you can see that there is only one word "ride" at the opposite end from the K logo.

So that means that ride is a K Ride. Looks like 20" or 22". Could be 24" possibly.

[Cocaberry]

I have a few questions about some cymbals:

Does the 20" AA Medium Ride weigh more (in physical weight) than the 20" AAX Stage Ride? I know they are both "medium weight" rides but that is cymbal weight.
Does the AAX Studio Ride make for a good crash?
How hard are AA Rock crashes to move? Is crashing a rock crash like crashing a medium ride?

Thanks for the help.

[chewaz]

I have a few questions about some cymbals:

Does the 20" AA Medium Ride weigh more (in physical weight) than the 20" AAX Stage Ride? I know they are both "medium weight" rides but that is cymbal weight.
Does the AAX Studio Ride make for a good crash?
How hard are AA Rock crashes to move? Is crashing a rock crash like crashing a medium ride?

Thanks for the help.

about the AA medium ride it has less wash than the stage, about the weight i don't know, but i like the AA medium better. The studio ride weghts the same as the studio crashes you can get a 20" studio crash, probably you'll get the same sound.

the AA rock crash are nice you just have to hit them a bit harder but the sound it's great, the 16" has a short decay, a 18" or bigger it's a cymbal to have next to the ride

[Chris]

I only watched the first video.

Since that ride is very crashable it is probably medium weight.

If you look closely, you can see that there is only one word "ride" at the opposite end from the K logo.

So that means that ride is a K Ride. Looks like 20" or 22". Could be 24" possibly.

That is what i was thinking. But then I wasnt sure if it was a K Ride, or a K Custom Ride.

But im going to try both out, and see what i like more. As im looking for a ride, sort of his ride (as i use the same set up, and tend to crash alot on my ride). But Ii want a trad finish.

[Cocaberry]

about the AA medium ride it has less wash than the stage, about the weight i don't know, but i like the AA medium better.

Thanks. That's really what I needed to know.

Is the AA Medium ride good for crash riding? I'd try one out but damn GC doesn't even carry the AA line.

[chewaz]

Thanks. That's really what I needed to know.

Is the AA Medium ride good for crash riding? I'd try one out but damn GC doesn't even carry the AA line.

mmm, yeah i guess it's a medium weight, but it will have this huge crash sound, if you want a ride you can crash a lot get the studio but it has too much was, in few words get the AA medium

[static]

C'mon people, I want problems to solve.

[HeLLmO]

here's one, if i get the 14x8 brass snare, how much cooler will i be than you?

solve that problem

[static]

**** you, I'm bidding.

And I believe this is called the cymbal finder, amirite?

Yaimrite.

[HeLLmO]

yea your right, but u just asked for a problem, and i gave you one

[static]

Psh. You're so literal.

So. What is your next upgrade?

[HeLLmO]

cymbal wise? 14'' byzance dark hats in november(16th b-day), then 20'' Novo china in december(x-mas)

[ludvista29]

Guess what I'm picking up at my local store on Saturday........A Brand New Paiste Sig 21 Dry Heavy Ride. I got a kick *** price. $215 USD :)

[HeLLmO]

that's crazy man, congrats. i was gonna get that, but i decided i'm gonna get the HH medium ride instead because i want a crashable ride

[ludvista29]

that's crazy man, congrats. i was gonna get that, but i decided i'm gonna get the HH medium ride instead because i want a crashable ride
Yeah, I dont Need a crashable Ride, I have an A med ride, Thats really Crashable, so I'm gonna have both Rides set up and my store will put rivets in the old one for me.

[MeaninglessPhoto]

Ah So I see you went with the Dry Heavy Ride. Nice choice man.

[ludvista29]

Ah So I see you went with the Dry Heavy Ride. Nice choice man.
Definatly, Pics up saturday for sure.

[Drum Phil]

Everyones jumpin on the paiste bandwagon lately.

[ludvista29]

Everyones jumpin on the paiste bandwagon lately.
thats because they sound awesome

[HeLLmO]

i'm bandwagonin' paiste alittle, but not because everyone else does, but because they sound awsome. i'm not whorin' 'em, because i'll get cymbals from any brand

[ludvista29]

i'm bandwagonin' paiste alittle, but not because everyone else does, but because they sound awsome. i'm not whorin' 'em, because i'll get cymbals from any brand
Ditto

[Quinto]

i wish i had money to buy a paiste 2002 17" crash, and medium crash, and a 21" wiild ride, or giant beat ride, but i dont because i just bought..........


A RENOWN MAPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MeaninglessPhoto]

Definatly, Pics up saturday for sure.

Schweet. Ill check em out when I pick up my 2nd bass which will be later that night.

[ludvista29]

Schweet. Ill check em out when I pick up my 2nd bass which will be later that night.
Awesome, which bass, is it for your Dee Dubs?

[MeaninglessPhoto]

Awesome, which bass, is it for your Dee Dubs?

Nah dude. Im still waiting for my DeeDubs. But the bass is for my gigging set. I could give you the specs on MSN.

[ludvista29]

Nah dude. Im still waiting for my DeeDubs. But the bass is for my gigging set. I could give you the specs on MSN.
alright, I'll probably be on tomorrow....

[Panopticon]

i wish i had money to buy a paiste 2002 17" crash, and medium crash, and a 21" wiild ride, or giant beat ride, but i dont because i just bought..........


A RENOWN MAPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


well uhhh...pics i guess...*pretends not to care while muttering under his breath*

[isp_of_doom]

Hello cymbal finding machine! My current cymbal setup consists of:

13" K/Z combo Hi hats
18" K Custom Ride
19" A Custom Crash
16" Stagg Crash (SH or DH)
12" Stagg Splash (SH or DH) the crash is on and the splash is the other
10" Zildjian ZXT Ti Splash
13" Brandless china (loud mothaF though!)... like a gong


Anyway, I'm looking at possibly getting a few more cymbals (we'll see what I can afford), but I was thinking at least a crash and a china, maybe 2 crashes and a china.

I want something that goes well with my current cymbals, as a crash I'd like something like a 16", 17" max. China... hmm... probably similar size. I've always liked the sound of Sabian cymbals, but I've ended up with mainly zildjians from various second hand auctions (all cymbals in good nic though, except the 12" stagg splash.) I'd like the china to have a fast decay (or at least not have a long decay).

I play mainly prog/rock/metal, but am looking at getting into the jazz and latin styles more...

SO! cymbal suggestions? (thanks :thumb:)

[Quinto]

well uhhh...pics i guess...*pretends not to care while muttering under his breath*



i would, but its up with my grandparents in weschester, and im in albany, 3 hours away, cuz i didnt want to pay shiping.

i got it from ebay new, for 1200. theres no snare, but it comes with 8x7 tom in addition to the fusion size setup.

ill post them in a week, or 3 weeks.

[Quinto]

china id suggest a smaller wuhan, am 10"er maybe, for crashes, i cant help you, i just can support y0ou turning your kit in to one of those trivium or ttnsb kits, where theres a thousand cymbals, and theres only 3 utilized in the entire song.

but i guess if you must, the paiste 2002 17" i really versatile, and just about any crash in the a custom line will go with yours.

[SeNeCa]

hey i hope you guys can help me :)
im after sorta a list of cymbals to work toward getting.
i play rock/metal sorta stuff like from popier blink n sum 41 n stuff to iron maiden metallica even a little heavier than that even like slipknot trivium etc. im sorry i know im not giving yous much to work with but if theres any cymbals that fit the criteria as such list em :) im sorta after like hi hats, 2 crashes, ride n then whatever you guys think compliments this sort of music, any brands i dnt really mind what

[HeLLmO]

meinl MB20/Byzance/Soundcaster(and soundcaster custom)
Paiste 2oo2/Sig/Rude(but rudes are kinda meh)
Sabian AA/AAX/HH
Zildjian A/Acustom/K/ K Custom/some FX

any of those should suit you fine

[Chester]

hey i hope you guys can help me :)
im after sorta a list of cymbals to work toward getting.
i play rock/metal sorta stuff like from popier blink n sum 41 n stuff to iron maiden metallica even a little heavier than that even like slipknot trivium etc. im sorry i know im not giving yous much to work with but if theres any cymbals that fit the criteria as such list em :) im sorta after like hi hats, 2 crashes, ride n then whatever you guys think compliments this sort of music, any brands i dnt really mind what
Its not just the genre you play, there are different sounds in cymbals that you might like, so you have to either figure out the sound you want, then find it, or try out cymbals and see which you just like the best.

[Mirror.Circuit]

hey i hope you guys can help me :)
im after sorta a list of cymbals to work toward getting.
i play rock/metal sorta stuff like from popier blink n sum 41 n stuff to iron maiden metallica even a little heavier than that even like slipknot trivium etc. im sorry i know im not giving yous much to work with but if theres any cymbals that fit the criteria as such list em :) im sorta after like hi hats, 2 crashes, ride n then whatever you guys think compliments this sort of music, any brands i dnt really mind what

what kind of sounds are you looking for though.
knowing the genres you play really won't help a whole lot.

[SeNeCa]

lol yeh sorry guys, im really not sure how to describe it but i want like a bit of power but with a clean crisp, "nice to the ear" sort of sound. hmm sorry i dno how else to describe it, sorry.

[Tim]

hi hats, 2 crashes, ride


Hihats- Get something with some nice cut to it but versatile just in case you decide to change genres in the future....I would highly recommend AAX stage hats, AA regular hats, A new beats. Those are the hats that will go good with just about any type of music.

Crashes-As for crashes i would go with something no lighter than medium thins but no heavier than mediums. AA medium thin crash, AAX stage crash, AAX plosion crash, AA medium crash, A medium thin crash, A custom crash, A custom medium crash and the list goes on. Again like i said i wouldnt go with anything heavier than medium since they will be hard to move in fast paced music like metal and such. I would highly recommend medium thin crashes in 18inch.

Ride-20 is the basic size to go but i love 21 inch rides. Dont get something too heavy because in loud music like metal and rock a *ping* will more than likely end up sounding like a *tink* because there isnt enough wash to go through the sound or blend with it. go with a medium heavy or a medium ride. AAX stage ride, AA medium ride, AA raw bell dry ride, HH raw bell dry ride,A sweet ride, A medium ride. just stick with teh weights i listed and you should be fine.

[Daven]

I need some help. Im currently saving some money, and even though im doing my best at not spending money on stupid things, its very difficult for me save. I dont have a job. So i was looking at some cymbal pack, and my primary option are b8 pro. I know they are not very good, but its the only thing i can afford. Besides, im pretty sure they're better than the cymbals i have currently.

Im also thinking of instead of buying the b8 pro pack, getting a good hi hat. So, can someone recommend a good hi hat that costs between 200 - 250 $ please. Thanks for any help.

[TTTSNB]

china id suggest a smaller wuhan, am 10"er maybe, for crashes, i cant help you, i just can support y0ou turning your kit in to one of those trivium or ttnsb kits, where theres a thousand cymbals, and theres only 3 utilized in the entire song.

but i guess if you must, the paiste 2002 17" i really versatile, and just about any crash in the a custom line will go with yours.
I use most all of my cymbals in all of my band's songs, and even if I may not use a certain cymbal in a song, I certainly will use it in another one.

[HeLLmO]

I need some help. Im currently saving some money, and even though im doing my best at not spending money on stupid things, its very difficult for me save. I dont have a job. So i was looking at some cymbal pack, and my primary option are b8 pro. I know they are not very good, but its the only thing i can afford. Besides, im pretty sure they're better than the cymbals i have currently.

Im also thinking of instead of buying the b8 pro pack, getting a good hi hat. So, can someone recommend a good hi hat that costs between 200 - 250 $ please. Thanks for any help.

AAX Stage hats

[Tim]

I need some help. Im currently saving some money, and even though im doing my best at not spending money on stupid things, its very difficult for me save. I dont have a job. So i was looking at some cymbal pack, and my primary option are b8 pro. I know they are not very good, but its the only thing i can afford. Besides, im pretty sure they're better than the cymbals i have currently.

Im also thinking of instead of buying the b8 pro pack, getting a good hi hat. So, can someone recommend a good hi hat that costs between 200 - 250 $ please. Thanks for any help.

definately jsut get a pair of hats because in the future you will want to upgrade those b8 pros. So just build up your cymbals slowly. Usually hihats from zildjian and sabian in 14 inch are aroudn $240(A, A customs, AA, and AAX). What genre if music will you be playing?

[MeaninglessPhoto]

Id go for the Zildjian A New Beats.

[Daven]

Mostly rock and metal. Thanks for all the recommendations, ill definitely try those out.

[Seafroggys]

Go for the New Beats.

[chewaz]

AA rock traditional or AA Fusion finish 14" or 15"

[HeLLmO]

AA Regular 15'' trad finish

[Pleaseme]

Nah 15" is overkill, especially if you then decide to broaden your playing genres. Also they're more expensive. AAX Stage hats are extremely versatile, I've used them before for metal, and jazz.

[Daven]

Thanks for the recomendations, ill be sure to check those ones out.

[HeLLmO]

Nah 15" is overkill, especially if you then decide to broaden your playing genres. Also they're more expensive. AAX Stage hats are extremely versatile, I've used them before for metal, and jazz.


yea, the stage hats are great, but he was askin' AA rocks or AA Fusions, and IMO 15'' AA regulars are better than both

[Pleaseme]

Ah fair do's. You reckon 15" Regulars could beat both Rock and Fusion sounds?

[HeLLmO]

well, i personally like them better than the rock hats, i find them a bit more versitile sounding, but to be totally honest i haven't played the fusions forever, but i definatly don't remember them as being bad

[drum_with_ease]

I'm finally going to convert my older drum set into a jazz kit. The only thing I really need is cymbals. I want to get a ride (20"-22"), hats, and 2 crashes (preferably one around 14" and one 18"). I want a nice washy sound, but with good stick definition as well.

Can anyone recommend some cymbals with those preferences? Maybe even a website that sells them cheap-ish?

Thanks

[crackpot_theory]

What would be an equivalent to the Sabian HHX series.

[Tim]

What would be an equivalent to the Sabian HHX series.

a mix between k and k customs.

[Cocaberry]

I always thought K = HH and K Custom = HHX

[Aaron]

no..

HHX are between Ks and Paiste 2002

[chewaz]

no..

HHX are between Ks and Paiste 2002

2002 really?

[drum_with_ease]

I'm finally going to convert my older drum set into a jazz kit. The only thing I really need is cymbals. I want to get a ride (20"-22"), hats, and 2 crashes (preferably one around 14" and one 18"). I want a nice washy sound, but with good stick definition as well.

Can anyone recommend some cymbals with those preferences? Maybe even a website that sells them cheap-ish?

Thanks
Anyone?

[Aaron]

2002 really?
Yeah, HHX have alot more balance than K Customs.. K Customs are really complex.

[crackpot_theory]

Yeah, HHX have alot more balance than K Customs.. K Customs are really complex.



So is one better than the other, and if so which one?

[Aaron]

depends on taste and need. I play a mix of K, K Custom and HHX [as well as wuhan traditionals] to get what I need.

[yama_stage_advantage]

i need info on the AA medium heavy ride a friend of mine wants to sell it really cheao but ive never heard the cymbal

[Tim]

i need info on the AA medium heavy ride a friend of mine wants to sell it really cheao but ive never heard the cymbal

how much is he selling it for?

[MatthewMeredith]

Hey I'm looking to completely replace my current cymbal setup.

I'm looking for very jazzy cymbals. Very thin, dark, and with lots of wash. I want a ride (probably 20") that's good for crashing, and a crash (probably 17") that's good for riding, and I DON'T want a crash ride :p. Also looking for a big china (18-19") and a smaller, dark splash (6-7").

Appearance-wise, I love the looks of Istanbul Agop Signatures, and Turkish's.
Price-wise, anything averaging around $200 CND per cymbal.

Thanks guys :chug:

[yama_stage_advantage]

how much is he selling it for?
$100

[Daven]

Can someone tell me what's Zildjian equivalent to some aax stage hats.

[Tim]

$100

buy it. thats if you want it. $100 is a good fair price for a used,AA ride.

[Drum Phil]

Hey I'm looking to completely replace my current cymbal setup.

I'm looking for very jazzy cymbals. Very thin, dark, and with lots of wash. I want a ride (probably 20") that's good for crashing, and a crash (probably 17") that's good for riding, and I DON'T want a crash ride :p. Also looking for a big china (18-19") and a smaller, dark splash (6-7").

Appearance-wise, I love the looks of Istanbul Agop Signatures, and Turkish's.
Price-wise, anything averaging around $200 CND per cymbal.

Thanks guys :chug:

Not sure on price but Zildjian K Custom Fast crashes are excellent. For a china might i suggest a 19" K Custom hybrid china? For a ride, maybe a HHX groove ride?

[drum_with_ease]

I'm finally going to convert my older drum set into a jazz kit. The only thing I really need is cymbals. I want to get a ride (20"-22"), hats, and 2 crashes (preferably one around 14" and one 18"). I want a nice washy sound, but with good stick definition as well.

Can anyone recommend some cymbals with those preferences? Maybe even a website that sells them cheap-ish?

Thanks
Anyone?

[yama_stage_advantage]

buy it. thats if you want it. $100 is a good fair price for a used,AA ride.
do you have experience with the ride

[yama_stage_advantage]

buy it. thats if you want it. $100 is a good fair price for a used,AA ride.
do you have any experience with the ride?

[yama_stage_advantage]

do you have any experience with the ride?
sorry double post:smash:

now triple:p

[Tim]

I have the AA raw bell dry ride. which is a medium heavy. different i know but i love it. For the most part AA cymbals are great. only thing i dont like are the rock crashes.

[Daven]

Can someone tell me what's Zildjian equivalent to some aax stage hats.

[Cocaberry]

Mastersounds maybe?

[chewaz]

Mastersounds maybe?

nah

[Cocaberry]

Newbeats then?

[Plan B.]

Yep, I'd sat NewBeats too.

[chewaz]

Newbeats then?
nah

[Cocaberry]

Can someone tell me what's Zildjian equivalent to some aax stage hats.

Just buy the Stage Hats. They're awesome hats, I have a pair myself. Very versatile.

[chewaz]

Just buy the Stage Hats. They're awesome hats, I have a pair myself. Very versatile.

nah! get the vault hats! that's the shizzle

[al98]

Hi, looking for a ride, 19" to 22" max, good stick def, not very washy, nice cutting bell, powerful aswell as versatile.

Thanks

[chewaz]

Hi, looking for a ride, 19" to 22" max, good stick def, not very washy, nice cutting bell, powerful aswell as versatile.

Thanks

22" AA or HH rock ride

[Seafroggys]

Newbeats then?

no...

[mullets suk]

simple questions...but ive heard wuhans are really good cheap cymbals. is this try cause i just want to pick up another crash, or a splash.i may get the rock and splash pack, i know there really crappy but thats what i would like. Also do they make wuhan rides, cause ive never seen them before.

[~(lunch_box)~]

what is a good ride that would sound good in a live setting for a 3 piece(drums,bass,guitar/vocals) rock/folk rock band?

thanks in advance for any suggestions

[MeaninglessPhoto]

It depends on if you want a crashable ride and what sound you want.

IMO I would go for a Medium Ride for crashibility or a Ping Ride for noncrashability but great stick definition.

[DuckinFutch8]

I have a heavier ride (22" A Medium) and I'm looking for a lighter one, with less presence but still some good stick definition. Something that could be used in some more jazzy or latin settings. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

[Seafroggys]

20" Medium?

[MeaninglessPhoto]

Go for a 20" Medium like Seafroggys said.

[Plan B.]

Sweet ride maybe.

[DuckinFutch8]

Thanks! I'll probably run into the store tomorrow and try those and a couple other out.

[mullets suk]

i think my question got skipped over so ill just restate.

Are wuhans any good? ive heard there good for there cheap price. also will they last for a long while??

[We_Love_Lime]

They're good.

But since they're cheap, I've heard somepeople saying they won't last long.
They'd be good If You know your going to replace them within time.

[MeaninglessPhoto]

Ive found the bigger Wuhans to last longer. But ive also had my 12" for almost a year now. My 24" could probably survive an explosion and could protect me from nuclear winter. I love the chinas and the splashes. Theyre good if you want cheap trashyness.

[drum_with_ease]

I'm finally going to convert my older drum set into a jazz kit. The only thing I really need is cymbals. I want to get a ride, hats, and 2 crashes (preferably one around 14" and one 18"). I want a nice washy sound.

Can anyone recommend some cymbals with those preferences? Maybe even a website that sells them cheap-ish?

Thanks

[static]

Well for the site, try http://www.massmusic.net. Andy is a really cool guy and helps out a lot. For a crash, I would get a 18" K Custom Dark Crash. Not sure about the others.

Opinions on 20" K Ride and 14" Paragon Hats?

Thank you.

[We_Love_Lime]

CIE Vintages would suit you well.


14 hats.
16 Crash.
18 Crash.
20 Ride, although those go on the bit of the ...expensive side.

Might I suggest some HHX Manhattans as well ( Knows nothing about Sabian ).

Or try an Armand Zildjian 19 Beautiful Baby, some quickbeats, and thin and medium thin crashes.

You can take the recomendations that George said too, and you can go to Zildjian.com and check them out at their "sound lab".

Sabian has the same thing with Manhattans.

[Sabian4015]

If your a jazz drummer....you might want to look into a sizzle ride. Alot of jazz drummers have more rides than crashes. You could get a light crispy ride and then a sizzle ride and have a large(r) crash to accompany that of the K series or Manhattan Sabians.

[TTTSNB]

Anyone have a clue where I could find a really big (24"- 27") wuhan and try it out? I've been wanting to get one forever, but I've never been able to find them.

[Tim]

dont know about the trying out part but last time i checked musicians friend had a 24 i beleive.

[raz0r]

Anyone have a clue where I could find a really big (24"- 27") wuhan and try it out? I've been wanting to get one forever, but I've never been able to find them.
The only shop around here that sells Wuhans sells them in up to a 27"

You could always ask a shop to order one in for you to try out, couldn't you?

[Tim]

The only shop around here that sells Wuhans sells them in up to a 27"

You could always ask a shop to order one in for you to try out, couldn't you?

you have to pay for it for them to order it.

[raz0r]

you have to pay for it for them to order it.
Not around here you don't.

If you decide you don't like it when they get it in, they just put it out on display, for someone else to buy.

[mullets suk]

i dont have any money right now, but when i do, think i need better hi-hats. right now im using zbt bottoms, and planet Z tops. the two lowest types i could have. What are some good hi-hats, for around $100-200 (USA). i dont know much about what makes good hi-hats. I normally play punk or rock. when i play ride i do use alot of (dont know tech name of it) clicking on the hats, so anything with alot of that would be great.

[We_Love_Lime]

i dont have any money right now, but when i do, think i need better hi-hats. right now im using zbt bottoms, and planet Z tops. the two lowest types i could have. What are some good hi-hats, for around $100-200 (USA). i dont know much about what makes good hi-hats. I normally play punk or rock. when i play ride i do use alot of (dont know tech name of it) clicking on the hats, so anything with alot of that would be great.

Hmm

Maybe some like 14/15 New Beats ( Although those might be out of your price range ).

Do you mean operating the high hats with your feet? You'll get more sound out of a larger high hat (and heavier) I would assume.

New Beats seem to be what your after.

Or maybe even the K/Z Dyno Beats or whatever.

[Seafroggys]

^^^ what he said!

[drum_with_ease]

I just counted my money and I have $850 to spend. I liked all of your suggestions for jazz cymbals, but I think some of them may be too pricey.

In my area, there aren't any drumming stores that are mainly cymbals, so I have to look online. So, I've been looking for awhile and found a website called cymbalsonly.com. They have a great selection. Well, I'm currently looking at Istambul Mehmet Sultan series, does annyone think these cymbals would be a good choice? I love the sound clips, and they're in my price range, but I can't really try before I buy.

[Raging_Poo]

I don't have a lot of money to spend and i really need new cymbals. Right now I'm trying to decide between a set of Meinl MCS's or Zildjian ZBT 4's. Which should I get? or is there any better cymbals in that price range?

btw first post

[drummerdave]

i would suggest to you to not get overanxious to get a bunch of cymbals, and then end up buying crap, buy yourself a nice pro level hi hats and ride, look into new beats, very versatile, and a medium ride or some sort, those are also very versatile, although look into the pro level lines of all the companies an dpick the ones you like best

[White Riot!]

I don't have a lot of money to spend and i really need new cymbals. Right now I'm trying to decide between a set of Meinl MCS's or Zildjian ZBT 4's. Which should I get? or is there any better cymbals in that price range?

btw first post


MCS > ZBT

Personally If i were you i'd save a little and get Meinl Classics or XS20

[francis]

Hi guys

Im after a ride that has a nice loud ping (must be heard over 2 guitars) and a nice crasy wash.

I've sifted through the thread and I think I should be looking for a 21inch Zildjian A sweet ride. Would I be correct in making that assumption?

Any other rides that would fit my criteria? (not a huge fan of Z customs)

As a side point...
UFIP's?? I dont really see anyone giving them praise. They just not up to scratch?

Thanks

[We_Love_Lime]

I think sweet ride might be alittle more crashable, making it less pingy.

But I don't seee why not.

Zildjian A PING ride ;) might help you as well....


Drum With Ease.
Buy some K Mastersounds (14) and like a K High Definition Ride, ( Almost like Constonoples ).

Try them out on the Zildjian Site.
And than build from there, no use spending all your money at once.

[Chris]

As a side point...
UFIP's?? I dont really see anyone giving them praise. They just not up to scratch?


That upset me.

UFIP's are far better then Zildjian, Sabian and Pasite. They are the best brand ever:p they just cost alot. And not to many people on here know that much about them (I think only me and BB use them).

Here is most of my UFIP's (It is missing a Natrual Crash),
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/6528/cym002lx3.th.jpg (http://img196.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cym002lx3.jpg)
At the moment im trying to get a 17" or 18" light Class Crash.

Hi guys

Im after a ride that has a nice loud ping (must be heard over 2 guitars) and a nice crasy wash.

I've sifted through the thread and I think I should be looking for a 21inch Zildjian A sweet ride. Would I be correct in making that assumption?

Any other rides that would fit my criteria? (not a huge fan of Z customs)


20" UFIP Class Ride (meduim), or even 20" UFIP Boinic Crash

[We_Love_Lime]

People who use Crashs as rides rule.

[crackpot_theory]

what are some really versatile hats?


also, out of curiosity, what kind of cymbals would, in your opinion, be good for a pep band.

[We_Love_Lime]

Man!
I've been looking at a new ride cymbal.

Here's what I've come up with so far.
Zildjian A Breakbeat.
K Custom Dry Ride
K Custom Special Dry Ride
K Custom High Definition Ride
A Custom Flat Top Ride
A Custom Sizzle Ride
K Custom Dark Ride.


Basically I want a ride that is not a high pitched ping sound, but I want it to have some stick definition, so If I play like 16ths on it, it won't lose it's presence.
Help Please? I was looking at the Breakbeat, and Ludvista said I might regret it later, so I came to you guys.

Any other suggestions?

[Icky_Mettle]

Try out the HHX groove, limey boy

The rest of those are good rides (from what I've played) and you can't make a bad decision on them, I'd just say nix on the breakbeat, because I doubt it'd be as versatile as something like a K dark or K dry. Also, the bells are great on most dark cymbals, so I'd think twice before getting a flat pie.

[We_Love_Lime]

thanks..

anyone else?

Hehe I guess no go on the breakbeat, I liked the sound, and it's cool because it's a breakbeat ride. But I guess it's like the guy who wanted to get Z customs so he could spell ZAK.

[chewaz]

14" AA regs or 14" Meinl Amun Mediumsoundwave?? wich!

[Mr. Grill]

14" AA regs or 14" Meinl Amun Mediumsoundwave?? wich!
Meinl. More complex tone.

[We_Love_Lime]

^^ Agreed.

[chewaz]

Meinl. More complex tone.

what you mean by complex?

[We_Love_Lime]

AA Regulars = Lifeless = No Soul.

They're too bland, They're good for hard rock, or something where the hats need to b heard (reggae). But in that case I'd suggest like a 15 K or something.

Meh.

My opinion though, they're very ordinary those Sabians.

[chewaz]

uhmm interesting, btw i dont like zildjians they're like mmm not my style, so you say i should go for meinl?

[Cocaberry]

Get Stage hats instead of AA Regulars.

[We_Love_Lime]

uhmm interesting, btw i dont like zildjians they're like mmm not my style, so you say i should go for meinl?

Yeah, or listen to Cocaberry.

[Chris]

People who use Crashs as rides rule.

Before I got my K Ride, i use to use a 20" UFIP Class Crash (Medium) as my ride. It was great, loads of wash, with alittle ping.

Shame it sucked for recording.

[drum_with_ease]

I think I figured it out. Today I went to the shop and picked up a 20" HHX Stage Ride, and a 16" HHX Stage Crash. Along with those I picked up a Gibraltar Moto-style throne (9600 I believe).

I still have a few hundred dollars left, and I think I will buy an 18" Istanbul Mehmet Sultan Series Jazz Ride, 14" Sultan Series Hats, and MAYBE even an 18" Sultan Series Crash.

When I set up the set with everything, I will have everything listed above + what I'm moving from my other drumset. Which is most likely a 12" Wuhan China, and my 10" HHX Splash.

[drum_with_ease]

Oh, and also I'm moving my 14" Paiste Full Crash.

[Gust]

Howdy here, this is my first post here, just so you know ^^

Anyway, I'm looking for a nice hihat, I dont have alot of money to my disposal and thus ask your advice. I was thinking about the Paiste Innovations, but I'm still not sure =(

I mainly play symphonic rock, like Rush, Styx and Yes, so I definitly need a nice chick. Open sound should be like a shhh that sounds quite soft and well...uhm, I guess sweet would be a good word? I would like as little ring as possible and the closed sound, well, I wouldnt really know honestly. I dont like the real dark sound, as I said before should be 'sweet' orso

Grtz, and as you might have noticed, I'm not that good at describing cymbals ^^

[We_Love_Lime]

Sabian EQ Hats.

or

Some Zildjian Quick Beats

[Seafroggys]

So I have an 18" Paiste 2002 Classic Crash, and an 18" Sabian AA Medium Crash.

I want to get a third crash that can not only compliment those two, but also provide a dark, warm alternative to these two 'loud bright' rock crashes.

I'm thinking of something along the lines of a 17" Istanbul Agop Traditional, probably a Medium-Thin. I have a 14" Thin right now, but I'm gonna replace it as its just too small to cut it as anything more then a large splash.

Any ideas?

[chewaz]

So I have an 18" Paiste 2002 Classic Crash, and an 18" Sabian AA Medium Crash.

I want to get a third crash that can not only compliment those two, but also provide a dark, warm alternative to these two 'loud bright' rock crashes.

I'm thinking of something along the lines of a 17" Istanbul Agop Traditional, probably a Medium-Thin. I have a 14" Thin right now, but I'm gonna replace it as its just too small to cut it as anything more then a large splash.

Any ideas?

17" signature fast crash maybe, but the 18" is darker

[enishi]

im gonna get new set of hats

im thinking of 13" K custom dark hats and 14" new beat hats
i play rock/mellow/funk thanks!!!!
which of these 2?

[Seafroggys]

im gonna get new set of hats

im thinking of 13" K custom dark hats and 14" new beat hats
i play rock/mellow/funk thanks!!!!
which of these 2?

New Beats, definitally.....

To Chewaz; Sigs are pretty nice, and money isn't that big of an issue since I have a decent job, but.......they're still hella expensive.

[francis]

Im thinking of purchasing some 14inch UFIP class series medium/heavy hats

Whats the pro's and cons of there type of hats?

Class series decent?

Im not that fmailair with UFIP's

Thanks

[Chester]

So I have an 18" Paiste 2002 Classic Crash, and an 18" Sabian AA Medium Crash.

I want to get a third crash that can not only compliment those two, but also provide a dark, warm alternative to these two 'loud bright' rock crashes.

I'm thinking of something along the lines of a 17" Istanbul Agop Traditional, probably a Medium-Thin. I have a 14" Thin right now, but I'm gonna replace it as its just too small to cut it as anything more then a large splash.

Any ideas?

im not that great with cymbal suggestions, but i would look into a 17-18" HHX stage, and also some other HH/HHX crashes would be worth looking at.

[Seafroggys]

Im thinking of purchasing some 14inch UFIP class series medium/heavy hats

Whats the pro's and cons of there type of hats?

Class series decent?

Im not that fmailair with UFIP's

Thanks

so if you don't know anything about them, why would you want them?

UFIP is fairly good, an underrated/underappreciated company. Depends on what model the hats are.

[Ginonix]

i was looking for a darker crash than my 18" as a second crash that would be used mostly on the offbeat and for crash riding if you get me, when i need something heavier than pinging the ride. money isnt really a problem, i just need some idea of what to get. im guessing people will be saying K custom, around 20"...but yeah, advice please. excuse my lack of techinical terms for playing, ha.

[static]

This one is for Froggys-

I recently got new 13" A Customs, and I didn't like the sound. So I took them back to Guitar Center and looked through every set of hats, combos and all, and guess which ones I bought?

[Seafroggys]

This one is for Froggys-

I recently got new 13" A Customs, and I didn't like the sound. So I took them back to Guitar Center and looked through every set of hats, combos and all, and guess which ones I bought?

Z customs?

Heh.....I need more feedback on my post.....so far I have suggested Paiste Sig and Sabian HH/HHX.

[static]

I'll give you a hint.

N_w B_ats.

Would you like to buy a vowel?


lol@tehoriginal


18" K Custom Dark Crash. The nicest crash ever.

[Seafroggys]

dude, I was being sarcastic ;)

welcome to the holy circle of true drummers. Only we know the true way, and that is of the New Beat.

Anyways, so 18" K Custom, 17" Paiste Sig, and a 17" HH/HHX. I think my local GC has all three of those, I should try them out.

Would Istanbul Trads work as well?

[static]

Yes, most definitely.

The New Beats are sex.

[chewaz]

14" paiste 2002 heavy hi hats!

[francis]

My friend plays on the Bionic series and I really like the sound. The class series hats were on sale. I was kinda hoping for some infomative feedback, not sarcasm.

Series is "class series" as already stated

[Chris]

Im thinking of purchasing some 14inch UFIP class series medium/heavy hats

Whats the pro's and cons of there type of hats?

Class series decent?

Im not that fmailair with UFIP's

Thanks

I have 14'' Class hats (Medium). They are your classic hat sounds, really nice. Though one issue I have of recent, is that they are really bright, though this may be from the room I played in last.

Listen to my bands songs, http://www.myspace.com/thesingletons I used my Class hats, a Natrual crash and a Experince Vintage Ride (the old model of the Boinic).


My friend plays on the Bionic series and I really like the sound. The class series hats were on sale. I was kinda hoping for some infomative feedback, not sarcasm.

Series is "class series" as already stated

Boinic and Class are different. Boinic have deep hammering, where the class dont.

Class series, are the 'A' of UFIP. They are the most musical series that they offer, and are great cymbals.

[crackpot_theory]

hmmm, lets see, I want a cymbal that's good for rock, but can also be stretched to play some jazz.

any suggestions?

[Chester]

well thats pretty vague... you mean a ride? maybe check out some K's if they are in your price range.

[crackpot_theory]

darn, forgot some stuff, yea I meant a ride.

what are some good jazz rides?

[Chester]

there are tonnnnns of different good jazz rides, check out pretty much anything from sabians HH/HHX lines, Zildjian's K/K customs, along with other companies such as bosphorus, istanbul, and so on. I like the 22" K Ride

[crackpot_theory]

excellent, now how would the hhx or hh's fare in the world of hard rock?

[Chester]

yea, hh and hhx work with rock. I bet some would be better choices than other, but they will do great. I was jsut looknig, Mike Portnoy has an HH ride

[HeLLmO]

HH rides are great for rock, i'm gettin' the HH medium ride because it's a great ride, and you can crash it

[Chester]

woo! lets start a riot for no reason.

[drummguy731]

I'm thinking of getting an A Custom Top/Z Dyno Beat bottom 13". I'm playing almost everything that you can think from Tool to Green Day, and my own stuff as well. I heard a good sound preview of it and I'm really looking to buy a Zildjian Hi-Hat. I was wondering what these hats were like. Thanks

[Seafroggys]

I'm thinking of getting an A Custom Top/Z Dyno Beat bottom 13". I'm playing almost everything that you can think from Tool to Green Day, and my own stuff as well. I heard a good sound preview of it and I'm really looking to buy a Zildjian Hi-Hat. I was wondering what these hats were like. Thanks

they would be good, but New Beats would be better

[Aaron]

You can get A/Zs already. The A Custom/Z would be a brighter version.

[static]

they would be good, but New Beats would be better

:lol:


/riots at nubs who don't get teh Beatz

[Aaron]

darn, forgot some stuff, yea I meant a ride.

what are some good jazz rides?
19" Istanbul Sultan

[Aaron]

darn, forgot some stuff, yea I meant a ride.

what are some good jazz rides?
19" Istanbul Sultan

[static]

darn, forgot some stuff, yea I meant a ride.

what are some good jazz rides?19" Istanbul Sultan

[HeLLmO]

:lol:


/riots at nubs who don't get teh Beatz


/kills nubs who do get teh Beatz

[Aaron]

um george.. wtf?

[static]

I was just agreeing with you.

123 is dated.

[Aaron]

haha, nice.

[chewaz]

woot'z 123 means?

[static]

I agree.

Or

What he said.

[HeLLmO]

k, i'm lookin' for a nice, crashable ride, 20 or 22'', from zildjian or sabian, if anyone's got an idea, please shoot it out, it can be anything along the lines of A, A Custom, K, K custom, AA, AAX, HH, HHX, or Sig. it's gotta be fairly versitile and have a fairly good bell.

[stevensonmat2]

Why not one of those Hyrbids?

[Drum Phil]

HHX Legacy rides are insanely crashable.

[Daven]

So a friend of mine is looking for a cheap set of cymbals. He was looking into the Sabians b8's and the Zildjian ZXT rock. Can someone help him.

I told him he would want to upgrade soon, but he didnt hear me.

[Panopticon]

k, i'm lookin' for a nice, crashable ride, 20 or 22'', from zildjian or sabian, if anyone's got an idea, please shoot it out, it can be anything along the lines of A, A Custom, K, K custom, AA, AAX, HH, HHX, or Sig. it's gotta be fairly versitile and have a fairly good bell.

i know it's not 20 or 22" but the sweet ride is HELLA crashable.

[HeLLmO]

HHX Legacy rides are insanely crashable.

they are crashable, but i don't dig the sound of the ride itself that much.

i'll definatly check out the sweet ride ETP, but how does the actual ride itself sound?

[raz0r]

i know it's not 20 or 22" but the sweet ride is HELLA crashable.
Doesn't have much ping though. Doesn't cut through louder music

[Tim]

HHX Legacy rides are insanely crashable.

not to mention they sound like a garbage lid when ridden on.(and by garbage lid i dont mean it sounds like crap or anything its just a really metal/trashy sound...like hitting a metal lid). You can bend that dang ride with 1 hand its so thin.

[HeLLmO]

Doesn't have much ping though. Doesn't cut through louder music

really? damn.

who's got experience with the 21'' meinl byznace medium ride, i know that's mad crashable because i listen to underoath, and aaron uses it as a crash, but i'm just not sure on how the rest of it sounds

[Triggen]

Hey,

Im thinking of getting some new cymbals, would a Zildjian ZXT 16in Crash + 18in Crash + Ride suit music such as Green Day and Blink 182? It also comes with a 14in hi hat aswell....It will cost alot of money so I dont want to make the wrong choice...Please help..=)

[Drum Phil]

No. Zxts are cheap crap.

[HeLLmO]

ZXTs are very bad. check out Paiste PST5, Sabian XS20 and Meinl Classics. remember, just because Travis and Tre use(ed) them, doesn't mean they are good

[Seafroggys]

Hey,

Im thinking of getting some new cymbals, would a Zildjian ZXT 16in Crash + 18in Crash + Ride suit music such as Green Day and Blink 182? It also comes with a 14in hi hat aswell....It will cost alot of money so I dont want to make the wrong choice...Please help..=)

ZXTs cost a lot of money?

Ha! They're cheap *** cymbals. I'd hate for you to see the pricetag on some good quality cymbals.

With my job, I can literally buy one new cymbal a week (pro-grade) :D

[Daven]

It depeneds where he lives. Wher i live, a stupid ZXT pack costs around 450 dollars. Everything is overpriced. :mad:

[Seafroggys]

well, no, he could think they're insanely expensive if they're from like a local guitar center. Its all relative, really. If he thinks they are expensive, no matter the price, I'd hate to see what he thinks about the price of Paiste Sigs.

[Daven]

Hmmm, i guess you're right then. :)

What's the opinion on Paiste's 302?

[Triggen]

Well, I am looking for cymbals that suit the music like Green Day and Blink 182, as we are doing some cover versions, so I would like them to sound good =)

Oh btw, Tre Cool and Travis Barker dont use ZXT Cymbals, they use Custom K and A Zildjian cymbals..

[HeLLmO]

Well, I am looking for cymbals that suit the music like Green Day and Blink 182, as we are doing some cover versions, so I would like them to sound good =)

Oh btw, Tre Cool and Travis Barker dont use ZXT Cymbals, they use Custom K and A Zildjian cymbals..

oh i know they don't, but i've heard someplaces that travis did a few videos with ZXTs, and travis and tre are in the low end zildjian cymbal promos.

and 1 last thing, if you want cymbals that will sound esentially the same as A Customs, check out sabians Vault and AAX lines, because they are basically the same, but are cheaper

[Drum Phil]

Well, I am looking for cymbals that suit the music like Green Day and Blink 182, as we are doing some cover versions, so I would like them to sound good =)

Oh btw, Tre Cool and Travis Barker dont use ZXT Cymbals, they use Custom K and A Zildjian cymbals..

Actually travis uses Z Customs

[Triggen]

Thanks!

[HeLLmO]

that ain't somethin' to Thanks! about, believe me

[Drum Phil]

If you want cheaper cymbals try sabian Pro Sonix.

[MeaninglessPhoto]

Triggen, only Tre used K's and A's. Travis uses Z Customs.

Try out A's if you have the money. If you want cheaper, try out Pro Sonix like Phil said.

[Cocaberry]

k, i'm lookin' for a nice, crashable ride, 20 or 22'', from zildjian or sabian, if anyone's got an idea, please shoot it out, it can be anything along the lines of A, A Custom, K, K custom, AA, AAX, HH, HHX, or Sig. it's gotta be fairly versitile and have a fairly good bell.

AAX Stage Ride
AA Medium Ride
AAX Studio Ride (medium-thin, hardly any ping)

[stevensonmat2]

If your looking for new cymbals and money is an issue, the A custom and A trad box sets are a solid choice. Theyre like $650 american at GC and in Musicians friend(same thing), and you get a 20" ride, 16" crash and 14" hats, plus a free cymbal bag(which is pretty sweet I have it). Plus, the A customs pack comes with both the free bag AND a free 18" crash.Heres a link, theres some other box sets, too. http://www.musiciansfriend.com/perc/navigation?N=100001+304981+11&page=1

good luck :smoke:

[Panopticon]

Actually travis uses Z Customs

In Z-time 05 (zildjian catalogue) it says he uses A's. j00 lose!

[Panopticon]

It depeneds where he lives. Wher i live, a stupid ZXT pack costs around 450 dollars. Everything is overpriced. :mad:

A ZXTi pack here costs about $750 at this one store.

[Triggen]

In Z-time 05 (zildjian catalogue) it says he uses A's. j00 lose!

Actually, I just checked his current set up and he uses Avedis series cymbals... :smash: