*** The Cymbal Finder ***

[Tim]

im afraid the bell would be too loud.. is it? well i better try it myself but before they get it im must pay half for its price WTF!!:smash: how can i test it?? pls help guys!!i need opinios!

i dunno. download some of the anatomy of a drum solo clips from drummer world or soemthing. he uses that ride. durh. :D

[HeLLmO]

I want a ride with great ping and definition with minimal overtones. Thanks.

i'd get the paragon. but the earth ride is good too. sounds great if u beat the **** out of it

[enishi]

i dunno. download some of the anatomy of a drum solo clips from drummer world or soemthing. he uses that ride. durh. :D

i believe its the RUSH neil peart he uses on that?

[HeLLmO]

i believe its the RUSH neil peart he uses on that?


on Anatomy Neil is usin' his Paragon, but don't watch the Work in Progress one or w.e it is called because he is using his A Custom(or Brilliant A???) ride in that video

[Time]

anyone think this combo would sound good?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7417632474&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

[Drum Phil]

The A Custom/Z Dyno beats do so maybe

[Quinto]

grrr. inerlo needs to give me some info so i can get those fusion hats of his. fusion hats are so hot.

[Metaldrummer616]

Ride

I want a ride that is very pingy with minimal wash and has a loud, peircing bell.
*preferably paiste

[HeLLmO]

Ride

I want a ride that is very pingy with minimal wash and has a loud, peircing bell.
*preferably paiste


21'' dry heavy sig ride, 24'' 2oo2 ride(may not be like as pingy as u want, but it's just such a perfect ride

[Metaldrummer616]

21'' dry heavy sig ride, 24'' 2oo2 ride(may not be like as pingy as u want, but it's just such a perfect ride

thanx. i listened to the dry heavy sig ride and fell in love.:chug:

[Icky_Mettle]

Alright....getting a crash very soon! Should have the money to get anything other than a paiste in about a week or two. I'm thinking 17'', and here are some of the qualities I'm looking for:

Pretty dark
pretty washy
relatively open
loud enough for rock/funk
versatile

Some that I've got my eye on
Istanbul Agop dark crash
Istanbul Agop sultan
Sabian AA med. thin
UFIP in local shop

some more suggestions would be awesome....

[Inkstar]

Would it be possible for someone to briefly explain the qualities of cymbals? Such as washy, etc. Never really known too much about them.

[Zildjian]

Has anybody have any experience with a K Custom Session crashes?? How did you like them??

[We_Love_Lime]

I don't know.

Try out some Meinl Byzances?

Just a thought.

**** I don't know.

[Icky_Mettle]

yeah....the byzances are sweet, I forgot to mention that I kinda liked the one I tried out in the store the other day. I'll look into it a little further.

[Quinto]

im looking for a pair of either sabian aa or aax hi-hats that are very sizzly and have are sort of dark.

im trying to find something similar to k custom session hats but i dont want to pay over 200 dollars, and im just looking for an open sound like theirs

edit:also do you think fusion hats are for metal, b/c someone said it on musicians friend reviews said so, but i didnt think so, but im not sure, so could you give me ur opinion

[Drum Phil]

Jesus man, if i said Z Customs are for jazz, would you beleive me?

Use them how you see fit.

[Quinto]

so the guy was wrong. i thought maybe my ears had decieved me or something. ty

[rborghino]

Hey man just a small question - is getting an 18" 2002 full crash worth it? - since i had cracked a 16" 2002 regular crash really easily. (these are all paiste)OR maybe should i just get myself eithr a 18" 2002 medium crash or a 17" 2002 rock crash?

[rborghino]

its sounds really weird when i read it again

[Icky_Mettle]

17 paiste sig full crash :]


I really like the dark energy crash, but I dunno if I really wanna pay that much more for it...oh well.

[Seafroggys]

Hey man just a small question - is getting an 18" 2002 full crash worth it? - since i had cracked a 16" 2002 regular crash really easily. (these are all paiste)OR maybe should i just get myself eithr a 18" 2002 medium crash or a 17" 2002 rock crash?

If you cracked a 2002 real easily, spend that money on a teacher instead.

I wish I could afford a 2002, because I won't break them.

[HeLLmO]

If you cracked a 2002 real easily, spend that money on a teacher instead.

I wish I could afford a 2002, because I won't break them.

get the hats too so u can shut the **** up about the new beats

[Quinto]

im looking for a pair of either sabian aa or aax hi-hats that are very sizzly and are sort of dark.

im trying to find something similar to k custom session hats but i dont want to pay over 200 dollars, and im just looking for an open sound like theirs

edit:also do you think fusion hats are for metal, b/c someone said it on musicians friend reviews said so, but i didnt think so, but im not sure, so could you give me ur opinion


^i want more opinions.srry for reposting

[Seafroggys]

get the hats too so u can shut the **** up about the new beats

I'm pretty sure the hats would be good, because I am a fan of that A/AA/2002 sound more then anything else.

But i'm too poor to afford Paiste, but I want at least one 2002 in my lineup, so it will be a crash.

[Icky_Mettle]

^i want more opinions.srry for reposting
ebay some of the ones you're looking for...I dunno if it's a good idea to like a set of hats because they're a cheaper version of the ones you really love.

[rborghino]

If you cracked a 2002 real easily, spend that money on a teacher instead.

I wish I could afford a 2002, because I won't break them.
man what are you talking about i NEVER break any cymbals except for that one that started cracking really soon. I have a paiste 101 and two sabian b8's in my set and theyve held up well maybe it was like a factory mistake or something and you didnt even answer the question i asked. you freak out too fast man, chill out.:chug:

[HeLLmO]

I'm pretty sure the hats would be good, because I am a fan of that A/AA/2002 sound more then anything else.

But i'm too poor to afford Paiste, but I want at least one 2002 in my lineup, so it will be a crash.

yea man. i'm gettin' my job and my first few pay checks are goin' towards a 20'' 2oo2 novo china and 15'' 2oo2 soundedge hats

[Icky_Mettle]

Alright....getting a crash very soon! Should have the money to get anything other than a paiste in about a week or two. I'm thinking 17'', and here are some of the qualities I'm looking for:

Pretty dark
pretty washy
relatively open
loud enough for rock/funk
versatile

Some that I've got my eye on
Istanbul Agop dark crash
Istanbul Agop sultan
Sabian AA med. thin
UFIP in local shop

some more suggestions would be awesome....

answers? I guess I should just make it a thread...

[aznriceball]

you're going to hate me for this..but i just got back from a weekend camp gig where i was the drum tech/sound tech and i'm going to say...

16" S series wuhan crash. believe it or not, but that thing was piercy, and cut through the bass just enough :)

[Icky_Mettle]

Believe me, I'm trying the S Series if they stock it at guitarcenter...I just don't wanna buy a wuhan without ever hearing it.

[Icky_Mettle]

OH GOD...I think I'm in love, and the victim costs $217 :[

Paiste signature reflector 17'' full crash

wow...this thing is absolutely dreamy! A little darker than the trad finish I tried, EXACTLY what I was looking for...matches up great with my ride. The thing is...am I good enough to get it? I don't want this breaking on me!

[chewaz]

OH GOD...I think I'm in love, and the victim costs $217 :[

Paiste signature reflector 17'' full crash

wow...this thing is absolutely dreamy! A little darker than the trad finish I tried, EXACTLY what I was looking for...matches up great with my ride. The thing is...am I good enough to get it? I don't want this breaking on me!

ooohh that crash is like a really hot woman, and you'll only need $217 to do funky suff with her, GET IT!!

[Inkstar]

Would it be possible for someone to briefly explain the qualities of cymbals? Such as washy, etc. Never really known too much about them.

Anyone?

[ChainReaction]

After much deliberation, I have come to a possible conclusion in replacing my cymbals. Based on what I have read here and in other forums, observed in music stores and internet sound clips, I have made the following selections:

16" and 18" Sabian aaxplosion crashes
20" Paiste Signature Dry Heavy Ride
14" Zildjian Z custom Dyno beat hats

I imagine the ride and the crashes will work quite well together, but, I am not sure of how the hats will work into this arrangement. I'm not even sure of Dyno beats...my only experience with them are the samples on the zildjian website. Does anyone have any commentary on the above cymbals, and perhaps a hi hat suggestion? And, since I may have money left over, splashes?

[Icky_Mettle]

hmmm....Ride is a brilliant choice, thinking of getting something in the sig line myself...I'm not a fan of aax really, but if you like them that's cool also. I suggest trying out 2002 sound edges.

[We_Love_Lime]

The Dyno Beats weren't bad really.

Maybe a K/Z Hybrid Whatever TF it is will suit you better.

[Zildjian]

Sigs are the sexiest cymbals ever... I now got a 16" sig full crash and its amaizing ( got it yesterday and i know its perfect in every way)

[blackjonah]

Be a Star! Have you ever wanted to get on a Walk of Fame? Here is your chance http://WorldWalkofFame.com !

[Quinto]

if u dont mind me asking why where on that site^?

[Zildjian]

Be a Star! Have you ever wanted to get on a Walk of Fame? Here is your chance http://WorldWalkofFame.com !

What a waste

[Sabian4015]

Should I get a 10" or 8" splash?

[We_Love_Lime]

Eightuh.

Depends on what you want to do with it.

[Inpropagation]

I'm looking for some good hi hats. Right now I have pro sonix, and I really don't like them at all. They're too loud, bright, heavy, and clangy. So I'm looking for something maybe the opposite of them.

Thanks.

[TTTSNB]

I'm looking for some good hi hats. Right now I have pro sonix, and I really don't like them at all. They're too loud, bright, heavy, and clangy. So I'm looking for something maybe the opposite of them.

Thanks.
15" K. The exact opposite. For what you're trying to play, maybe 13" K/Z? I love mine.

[Chris]

Any of you know what china this is:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/openeye/133833957/
http://img302.imageshack.us/img302/6792/14210562221326846ef1em.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
All i can work out is that it is a 17 K, but not sure what type. And i ask as im after a china (I play a small set up like Brian), and i like the sound of that one live. So im trying to work out what it is to try one out.

[Drum Phil]

K Custom Hybrid

http://www.zildjian.com/images/products/zoomImage_2232.JPG

However its 19" cause they only make them in 19"

[Chris]

K Custom Hybrid

Cheers, i thought it was a dark china:rolleyes:

But i guess i should of looked at the bell (I know little about Zildjian).

Are they any good? And musical sounding?

[Drum Phil]

Its also 19" not 17 ;)

[Chris]

Its also 19" not 17 ;)

Lol, that was a shoot in the dark, going by sound clips off the zidjian site.

You know how much they go for, and if they are easy to get hold of?

[Drum Phil]

£176 from newcastle drum centre.

I enquired about the 19" Hybrid crash a while ago. They're the same price as K Customs

[Chris]

Newcastle is the other end of the country to me. But at least they arent that much.

The sound clip is 100% the sound im after as well.

[rory_g]

Could someone give me some info on stagg drumkits? Cant find anything about them on the net... there's a used one for sale wherei live for about $650 or Eu550. Any ideas?

[Tang.]

Istanbul Agops..Discuss.

[[Fonya]]

Hey guys,

Im looking at some new hihats in the sabian range. I want a nice chick sound when closed and nice sloshy sound semi open. I play rock mainly.

[Seafroggys]

']Hey guys,

Im looking at some new hihats in the sabian range. I want a nice chick sound when closed and nice sloshy sound semi open. I play rock mainly.

New Beats

....oh you said Sabian?

Well then....

yeah, New Beats

[Quinto]

fusions.

[[Fonya]]

What fusions? AA or AAX?

[Quinto]

either. i think. i got the aax's. its an aax over an hh with sound holes. the hh is really heavy and raw, and it has an amazing chick and some pretty good sloshy

[Icky_Mettle]

Istanbul Agops..Discuss.
Awesome cymbals.

[We_Love_Lime]

I agree.

To be precise, they are awesome cymbals.

[terry_bozzio_wanna_be]

what would be suitable (preferably from the sabian line) replacements for; paiste signature sound edge hh, paiste singature full crash, paiste singature power crash, and yes i know they are completly different types of cymbals, but what are the closest sounding cymbals iu can get (again, preferably from the sabian line, but zildjian ok too)?

[bstiffler582]

Arite guys I need a new ride. I play a 20" A Custom right now and as you may or may not know they're quite thin and light. I like it but for my next one I'd like a tiny bit heavier, with equal or as close as possible crashing capabilities. Keep in mind I have a thing for thinner cymbals, but the A Custom is just too light. Thanks a ton guys.
Edit: Right know I'm thinking just a Medium A. Any feedback?

[terry_bozzio_wanna_be]

hey, i asked first

[Quinto]

a medium sounds great, but a sweet ride would be nice too

edit: bozzio w/e i would help but i have no experience with the paistes other than alpha and 2002.

[chewaz]

']What fusions? AA or AAX?

soundedge!

[terry_bozzio_wanna_be]

what would be suitable (preferably from the sabian line) replacements for; paiste signature sound edge hh, paiste singature full crash, paiste singature power crash, and yes i know they are completly different types of cymbals, but what are the closest sounding cymbals iu can get (again, preferably from the sabian line, but zildjian ok too)

???

[Icky_Mettle]

Hmm...my HHX groove ride is pretty light, but PERFECTLY light i'd say...it's got a monsterous crash, and it's more open than a lot of rides...you don't have to destroy it to get a great crash sound. Darker than the A customs, though...the ping stands it's ground no matter how much wash builds up...hence the design being a ride for rhythmic music such as funk, but the ping for everything needing ping. If you wanna stay in the A line, I'd go with the A medium or Medium thin....

Maybe this will persuade you :)

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e308/Maggotbrainz/hhxgroove005.jpg

[Time]

New Beats or 2oo2 Heavy Hats? Theyre both $120. I play everything.

[ludvista29]

']Hey guys,

Im looking at some new hihats in the sabian range. I want a nice chick sound when closed and nice sloshy sound semi open. I play rock mainly.
AAXcelerators

[chewaz]

what would be suitable (preferably from the sabian line) replacements for; paiste signature sound edge hh, paiste singature full crash, paiste singature power crash, and yes i know they are completly different types of cymbals, but what are the closest sounding cymbals iu can get (again, preferably from the sabian line, but zildjian ok too)?

dude are u nuts those signatures are like god

[terry_bozzio_wanna_be]

yes, but they are also very expensive

[Icky_Mettle]

Bozzio, lemme say from a guy who was looking into buying a sig crash (I decided otherwise) that the bosphorus gold full crash is the turkish paiste sig. It'll cut through any music, and it's got a great brilliant finish. I decided on the darker agop med. thin, but if you really want the paiste sound with the versatility that it doesn't have, go with the bos golds. Tony from cymbalsonly said pretty much the same thing.

There isn't really much of an equivalent to the sigs in the zildjian or sabian line, truthfully.

[We_Love_Lime]

That's cuz Bosphorus is uhh

Incredible!?

[terry_bozzio_wanna_be]

anywhere i can get them cheap?

[CasB]

cymbalsonly.com

[terry_bozzio_wanna_be]

how bout a place for paiste cheap?

(nothing agains bosphorous, just keeping my options open)(also thanks for the link casb)

[terry_bozzio_wanna_be]

i want a set of three paiste sig crashes in the 16"-18" range that sound good together, i am open to advice

(how does a 16 full, 17 power, and 18 power sound together?)

[Icky_Mettle]

The cheapest you can get paiste sigs would be about $196, $217 and $237 for those sizes...bosphorus golds would save you around $30-40 on each, but if you gotta have cymbals, you gotta have em.

[terry_bozzio_wanna_be]

where could i find paiste sigs at that price?

[Bub]

Hey guys I'm looking for some new Hi hats. I'm willing to pay pretty much any amount within reason, at the high end section. Looking for a sound I'll never tire of, good for Metal, but not exclusive to. I can try out some Rudes at my local store, but other than that, my local stores lack selection a bit.
Anything I should be made aware of? Would it be worth buying some Paiste Dark Crisp Sigs online? I've only heard them in the sound library on paiste's site, and on an Anthrax song..but recording and in person are pretty different.

Just general advice to a first time hi hat buyer would be great! :thumb:

[TTTSNB]

Whats the best place to pick up Paiste 2002s? I'm looking for a 17" crash.

[raz0r]

Whats the best place to pick up Paiste 2002s? I'm looking for a 17" crash.
Switzerland.

[terry_bozzio_wanna_be]

The cheapest you can get paiste sigs would be about $196, $217 and $237 for those sizes...bosphorus golds would save you around $30-40 on each, but if you gotta have cymbals, you gotta have em.

where can i find paiste signatures at the price???

the best i could find is 245, 270, 295

[Icky_Mettle]

Oh sorry, it's on the massmusic site...


http://www.massmusic.net/shop/?shop=1&cart=3198952&cat=1202&

[Icky_Mettle]

Hey guys I'm looking for some new Hi hats. I'm willing to pay pretty much any amount within reason, at the high end section. Looking for a sound I'll never tire of, good for Metal, but not exclusive to. I can try out some Rudes at my local store, but other than that, my local stores lack selection a bit.
Anything I should be made aware of? Would it be worth buying some Paiste Dark Crisp Sigs online? I've only heard them in the sound library on paiste's site, and on an Anthrax song..but recording and in person are pretty different.

Just general advice to a first time hi hat buyer would be great! :thumb:
Mmm....those hats sound awesome from the site samples, so I'd definately go for them. If you want something else in the sig line, check out the sig sound edges for fun.

[chewaz]

Switzerland.

nah, their price is in euros so it's cheaper to buy them in massmusic, odd

[3_times_round]

nah, their price is in euros so it's cheaper to buy them in massmusic, odd

Plus Switzerland is like crazily expensive anyway. I spent £10 ($19) on drumsticks there.

And its not in Euros, its in Swiss Francs.

[enishi]

195$ paragon ride = good?

[3_times_round]

195$ paragon ride = good?

Yes, if thats what you want from a ride.

[FooBuddy1989]

im getting an A custom Ping Ride, i dont know if i should get the 20" or 22" i've played the 20" but i hear the 22" is so much better.

[Icky_Mettle]

Depends, it will probably have less wash and more ping.

[Quinto]

the 20" avedis ping ride.

[chewaz]

22" and bigger

[TTTSNB]

I'm looking for a pair of mini hats. I'm thinking either AA 12" Mini, or a Meinl Byzance set of the same size. What type do you think would be be most versatile, while still retaining a nice cutting sound.

[midnight_toker420]

I'm looking for a second crash, that has a deep, full, powerful sound, used for playing progressive metal. My current crashes are a paiste alpha 16 inch thin crash, and a paiste 302 16 inch, and right now, the 302 just isn't cutting it.

[Tim]

I'm looking for a second crash, that has a deep, full, powerful sound, used for playing progressive metal. My current crashes are a paiste alpha 16 inch thin crash, and a paiste 302 16 inch, and right now, the 302 just isn't cutting it.
18inch HHX stage crash.

[Mitch2oo6]

I need a full new set up. Im going in for Paiste, damn I love those cymbals. Anyway, I'm thinking a 16" inch Paiste Alpha(two actually), an 18" Paiste cymbal of some form, possibly a Sig? Then some kind of ride.
Wuhan china's, and a couple of nice Sabian splashes.

[Drum Phil]

I'm looking for a pair of mini hats. I'm thinking either AA 12" Mini, or a Meinl Byzance set of the same size. What type do you think would be be most versatile, while still retaining a nice cutting sound.

Sabian VFX hats :)

[vicmercado]

18" wuhan china costs me $95, a good deal or no good?

[chewaz]

18" wuhan china costs me $95, a good deal or no good?

DEF NOT, you can get it for 35 buchs

[chewaz]

a 24" 2002 ride is it really washy and loud for band practicing?

[Seafroggys]

a 24" 2002 ride is it really washy and loud for band practicing?

i wouldn't call it washy, but it'll be LOUD!

22-24" rides ftw

(omg I finally used ftw for the first time!)

[full collapse]

I'm looking for a pair of mini hats. I'm thinking either AA 12" Mini, or a Meinl Byzance set of the same size. What type do you think would be be most versatile, while still retaining a nice cutting sound.

Definately, the AA mini hats, John Blackwell uses them and they sound sweet.

[saars]

Mk, a question before I go to my local music store to try them out: are the aax-celerator hats versatile from jazz to rock?

[al98]

Want a new pair of hi-hats, not to bright not to dark. Versitile, i play rock, metal and just other random things.

Thanks

[Chrysostom]

What would be a good ride cymbal that also sounds great as a crash. Sabian preferably.

/fanboy.

[Icky_Mettle]

My groove ride can seriously roar when you shoulder the edge, Chrysostom.

Also I think if you like the AA/AAX line, the AAX stage is supposed to be good for that.

[Chrysostom]

My groove ride can seriously roar when you shoulder the edge, Chrysostom.

Also I think if you like the AA/AAX line, the AAX stage is supposed to be good for that.

Cool, thanks man. :thumb:

It's cool that you can crash a groove ride, because they're nice rides. But I'll check out the AAX stage.

[chewaz]

which soundedge the signature or the 2002 (price is not a problem)?

[Drum Phil]

15" signature

[chewaz]

15" signature

ok iwas thinking the same, but i wanna know why? (dont say because signature rocks or some like that)

[Drum Phil]

Because i love the dark tones with the nice chick they give.

[Zildjian]

What would be a good ride cymbal that also sounds great as a crash. Sabian preferably.

/fanboy.

20" A Custom ride

[Icky_Mettle]

Soundedge 15'' sig hats: The most expensive hats in the world ;)

[Seafroggys]

Want a new pair of hi-hats, not to bright not to dark. Versitile, i play rock, metal and just other random things.

Thanks

New Beats

[Ethan.]

Whats the loudest, most ear-killing, longest sutaining crash, assuming I hit it the same force on every one. Not over 20".

[Icky_Mettle]

I think the thing that you are lusting for is: THE CRASH OF DOOOOOOM


Well, it's loud, trashy, dark, and has a huge sound.

[chewaz]

Because i love the dark tones with the nice chick they give.

yeah, i was like soo close to get them for $275, :( damn ebay

[saars]

Mk, a question before I go to my local music store to try them out: are the aax-celerator hats versatile from jazz to rock?

???

[Drum Phil]

Soundedge 15'' sig hats: The most expensive hats in the world ;)

Close. Dark energy are more expensive :p

[Quinto]

i have a question...

i have fusion hats, and the bell has this weird ring that id like to reduce, how could i do this? in other words whenever i hit it has a bit of a ring

[Drum Monkey]

I'm looking for a pair of mini hats. I'm thinking either AA 12" Mini, or a Meinl Byzance set of the same size. What type do you think would be be most versatile, while still retaining a nice cutting sound.
I've played a pair of 12" Mini Hats and thought they were great! Nicely high pitched and cool for effects.

-DM

[Chester]

What would be a good ride cymbal that also sounds great as a crash. Sabian preferably.

/fanboy.

The 20" AAX Stage ride has your name all over it. Only bad thing is the bell is a little small. Great ride though.

[SadStairway]

I dont find that my stage ride functions that well as a crash, it still sounds very ride like when compared to say a 20" vault crash.

[drummerdave]

i have a question...

i have fusion hats, and the bell has this weird ring that id like to reduce, how could i do this? in other words whenever i hit it has a bit of a ring

maybe tape the underside of the bell, i personally dont tape cymbals, but it might solve your problem

edit: 300 posts finally

[HeLLmO]

The 20" AAX Stage ride has your name all over it. Only bad thing is the bell is a little small. Great ride though.

i'd go 21'' though because the bell is a bit bigger, but that is just my opinion

[TTTSNB]

I've played a pair of 12" Mini Hats and thought they were great! Nicely high pitched and cool for effects.

-DM
Awesome, I've never got to play a set, but they seem definitely worth getting.

[Drum Monkey]

Awesome, I've never got to play a set, but they seem definitely worth getting.
Yeah I liked playing them. Definitely would consider a pair after my set is "complete", just because I'm not looking for that right now.

-DM

[Mirror.Circuit]

i'm looking for a decently priced,clear cutting china and 16" crash that can hold up to Mars Volta style drumming,but still be useful when the volume gets toned down.

[chewaz]

what's the sound of the 2002 22" heavy ride like?

[Drum Monkey]

what's the sound of the 2002 22" heavy ride like?
Here, check it out:

http://www.paiste.com/products/cymbals/2002_rides.php

That should definitely give you an idea.

-DM

[FooBuddy1989]

what would be the difference in sound between Avedis and A custom Ping Rides, 22"?

[chewaz]

Here, check it out:

http://www.paiste.com/products/cymbals/2002_rides.php

That should definitely give you an idea.

-DM

i already knew that, but that question was for those who have actually played it

[Quinto]

do 2oo2's have a rep for breaking?

[Seafroggys]

the only thing 2002s have a rep for is for kicking ***

[HeLLmO]

the only thing 2002s have a rep for is for kicking ***


quoted for total utter indisputable truth

[static]

Okay, I have a dilemma. I'm upgrading my crappy cymbals (Pearls) that I've had for 4.416 years. I'm looking for a set of hats that have a very tight, articulate, clean, and clear sound when closed, and very bright when open. Washy when slightly open, but not when closed. I have narrowed it down to four.
1. 13" AAX Studio Hats
2. 14" AAX Stage Hats
3. 14" A Custom Hats
4. 13.25" K Custom Hybrid Hats


In that order, I believe.

Any opinions, suggestions?

[drummerdave]

what about a custom mastersound hats? they sound like they could be what you're after, never heard the hybrids, the studio hats sound nice, a guy i know has them and i heard them live, very nice hats, never heardthe stage hats

[HeLLmO]

Okay, I have a dilemma. I'm upgrading my crappy cymbals (Pearls) that I've had for 4.416 years. I'm looking for a set of hats that have a very tight, articulate, clean, and clear sound when closed, and very bright when open. Washy when slightly open, but not when closed. I have narrowed it down to four.
1. 13" AAX Studio Hats
2. 14" AAX Stage Hats
3. 14" A Custom Hats
4. 13.25" K Custom Hybrid Hats


In that order, I believe.

Any opinions, suggestions?

i'd look at K Custom Mastersounds as well, they are excelent hats. i'm gonna be rockin' 'em for my new ska band. of course, i'm not totally sure if the Nook has K Custom Mastersounds...so u might have to speak with the nice ppl at massmusic.net

[static]

Don't you mean K Mastersounds?

[HeLLmO]

i think they make both

[static]

Didn't see any K Customs on the site.

All right, it's a toss up between the 13" A Custom Mastersounds and the 13" Studio Hats. I wasn't a big fan of the K hats, they were too dark and washy for my liking.

[Futuro]

do 2oo2's have a rep for breaking?
Not really... It all comes down to the player.

Diego what happened to you buying the sigs?

15" signature Garbage. 15 inches and sound edge, no thanks :-/

13 IMO is big as you should go with anytype of sound edge, mastersound cymbal.

[static]

I changed my hat preference. At first I thought wash>all, but now I'm more about tight, closed hat sounds. So I just didn't get them.

[Futuro]

I changed my hat preference. At first I thought wash>all, but now I'm more about tight, closed hat sounds. So I just didn't get them.
Ah, ok. Dont get any sound edge, mastersound thing then.

As far as tight closed hats, check out the Quickbeat/Newbeats

[HeLLmO]

I changed my hat preference. At first I thought wash>all, but now I'm more about tight, closed hat sounds. So I just didn't get them.

yea, the 13'' quick beats should suit you very well, excellent hats. or maybe 13'' AAX fusion hats, but they may be too washy, i haven't played them for a while

[static]

I've played the Mastersounds before, and I really liked them. I don't like New Beats, and I don't know why. I just don't like any of the A line up basically. I like the fusion hats too, I was gonna go with those also, but they're too loose for my liking.

[static]

The quick beats are a little too washy for my liking, also.

[HeLLmO]

K Custom Special Dry hats maybe?

[Seafroggys]

The quick beats are a little too washy for my liking, also, but those New Beats that I tried out are absolutly awesome. I had no idea such wonderness could be made into a cymbal!

Yeah, you should go try them out. They ARE fantastic.

[HeLLmO]

Yeah, you should go try them out. They ARE fantastic.

froggys my man, we've been over this before, not everyone sleeps with their new beats next to them at night

[static]

Holy ****. These things are perfect. The 14 inchers are like sex. Thanks a lot kid whos name I don't know yet goes by Hellmo.

[HeLLmO]

Holy ****. These things are perfect. The 14 inchers are like sex. Thanks a lot kid whos name I don't know yet goes by Hellmo.

ha, no problem man, i'm lookin' into pickin' some up for myself, i need 2 pairs of hats, i'm thinkin' 13 k custom drys for my happy ska band, and 15'' 2oo2 soundedge hats for when it's time to rip metal and what not.

name's Sean btw

[static]

I'm not a big fan of 2oo2's hats. Weird, I know.

Oh right, I knew that.

EDIT: Name is George, by the way.

[We_Love_Lime]

Hmm

12 Inch Zildjian Recording Customs.

I might have come to late though..

[HeLLmO]

I'm not a big fan of 2oo2's hats. Weird, I know.

Oh right, I knew that.

meh, some love 'em, some don't, it happens. just like i personally don't like A Custom Mastersounds

[static]

I love all the other Paiste hats (Minus the rudes...blech) but there is just something about 'em I dislike.

[HeLLmO]

I love all the other Paiste hats (Minus the rudes...blech) but there is just something about 'em I dislike.

haha i like some rudes, the chinas are pretty sweet, and the thin crashes are okay, but the crash/rides are kind...bad

[static]

I only like Rude chinas. Even those aren't that good.

[static]

Yeah, so it turns out I want HHX 13" Evo Hats.
Or maybe the Mastersounds.

I know, I know....

[HeLLmO]

hahaha. isnt shoping for cymbals fun. don't forget to look at Meinl

[Kosmos Tree]

has someone played the paiste 13" signature sound edge hihat danny Carey uses?

i heard it on a tool concert and it sounded beyond awesome, so awesome i might look into them (although it will take me ages to afford one)

[static]

hahaha. isnt shoping for cymbals fun. don't forget to look at Meinl


I love basically all Byzance hats, but no stores around here sell them and the only place I know with clips is the site, so.

[fullmetalhaallee]

Ive got a 14 inch A fast crash, and a 16 inch A medium thin crash, I was looking for a bigger crash to add on. I was leaning to sabian for some reason, but anything works. I want something versitle, I play mostly rock, but sometimes I have to do some metal, and Ive been picking up some jazz. Im not too sure what exact sound I want. Any suggestions?

[HeLLmO]

I love basically all Byzance hats, but no stores around here sell them and the only place I know with clips is the site, so.

trust the clips and buy from www.massmusic.net i'll tell ya man, meinl are hard to come by in humble massachusetts, but massmusic will get them to u save and much cheaper than anywhere else. and andy the owner is the man

[Massik Kretal]

I need a good cutting powerful ride, with a great sounding bell.

[PandaDrummer]

sabian paragon ride
or whatever zildjian makes, the mega bell ride...If it isn't the Z series one.

[We_Love_Lime]

Are we saying he can't buy a ride out of the Z Custom line?
http://zildjian.com/EN-US/products/default.ad2?catalogID=1012&seriesID=&typeID=9

Might wanna try out a Rock Ride, or a Ping Ride or something like that as well, from the A line.

[Tim]

I need a good cutting powerful ride, with a great sounding bell.

AA raw bell dry ride my friend. that ride is jesus.

[fullmetalhaallee]

I guess no one really saw this...

Ive got a 14 inch A fast crash, and a 16 inch A medium thin crash, I was looking for a bigger crash to add on. I was leaning to sabian for some reason, but anything works. I want something versitle, I play mostly rock, but sometimes I have to do some metal, and Ive been picking up some jazz. Im not too sure what exact sound I want. Any suggestions?

[We_Love_Lime]

Vault Crash?

20 Thin/Medium Thin.

[Chester]

I would go with something around 18", yea 14" crashes can be awkward.
Sabian has a lot of good crashes, look into AA medium/med thin, AAX stage, AAXplosion, vaults if you want but im not tooo too fond of those.

Go into a store and hit everything they have.

[destroyer of senses]

I'm looking for some funk hats from either zildjian, sabian or istanbul to use as my primary hats Any suggestions?

[HeLLmO]

I'm looking for some funk hats from either zildjian, sabian or istanbul to use as my primary hats Any suggestions?

Istanbul Trad.Funk hats would be the best, Sabian HHX Groove hats 14 or 15'' would get the job done, so would some Zildjian Quick Beats

[HeLLmO]

I would go with something around 18", yea 14" crashes can be awkward.
Sabian has a lot of good crashes, look into AA medium/med thin, AAX stage, AAXplosion, vaults if you want but im not tooo too fond of those.

Go into a store and hit everything they have.

yea, man, 14'' crashes can be weird, but i'm gettin' a 14'' A Custom Fast Crash and usin' it as a kinda big splash, because it just sounds better than any A Custom splash, but it cuts really well

[herostyle]

Sabian Vault Ride?
20 ".
ANybody played it?

[fullmetalhaallee]

Sabian Vault Ride?
20 ".
ANybody played it?

played it, loved it. Amazing!!!

[Chester]

I'm looking for some funk hats from either zildjian, sabian or istanbul to use as my primary hats Any suggestions?
quick beats!

[Seafroggys]

I'm looking for some funk hats from either zildjian, sabian or istanbul to use as my primary hats Any suggestions?

New Beats.

[flammen]

i'm looking for a ride which is quite pingy with very little wash and a loud high pitched bell no preference to company

[HeLLmO]

I'm looking for some funk hats from either zildjian, sabian or istanbul to use as my primary hats Any suggestions?
instanbul trad funk hats FTW!!!!

[TTTSNB]

i'm looking for a ride which is quite pingy with very little wash and a loud high pitched bell no preference to company
Zildjian 20" A Earth Ride/ Sabian 20" AA Raw Ride (Same thing)- Least wash
Sabian 22" AAX Metal Ride- more wash
Sabian 21" AA Rock Ride- more wash again

All very pingy cymbals, but go for the earth if you want a really dry cymbal, the metal if you want something a little more washy, etc.

[HeLLmO]

Zildjian 20" A Earth Ride/ Sabian 20" AA Raw Ride (Same thing)- Least wash
Sabian 22" AAX Metal Ride- more wash
Sabian 21" AA Rock Ride- more wash again

All very pingy cymbals, but go for the earth if you want a really dry cymbal, the metal if you want something a little more washy, etc.

would the paragon work too?

[herostyle]

Sabian AA Raw Bell Dry Ride?

[Tim]

Sabian AA Raw Bell Dry Ride?

yes. aa raw bell dry ride. check it out.

[herostyle]

yeah, your right it is goiod I jut pick it up from guitar center.

[red n black]

hello people, I'm in search of some cymbals and in need of help.

I want 2 cymbals, I want fairly big cymbals and I want the sound to be as follows:

1 crash/light ride
1 ride/crash

I would like to receive as many options as possible.

[Chester]

for the ride/crash, i wouldnt go with a cymbal necesarilly called a crash ride, jsut get a crashable ride, like a Sabian AAX Stage Ride, or mabye one of those Zildjian Sweet Rides.

[red n black]

^^^ thats what I was thinking too, maybe a heavier crash too

[static]

Okay, I have a few things to ask you fellas.

1. AA Raw Bell Dry Ride. How does it sound? Some wash, nice bell, good cymbal? Past experiences, etc.

2. 13" or 14" AAX Stage/Studio Hats. How does it sound? Some wash, nice chick, tight sound when closed? Past experiences, etc.

Recommendations are cool, too.

Thanks in advance.

[Tim]

Okay, I have a few things to ask you fellas.

1. AA Raw Bell Dry Ride. How does it sound? Some wash, nice bell, good cymbal? Past experiences, etc.

2. 13" or 14" AAX Stage/Studio Hats. How does it sound? Some wash, nice chick, tight sound when closed? Past experiences, etc.

Recommendations are cool, too.

Thanks in advance.

1. I have the AA raw bell and first off lemme say that you wont be dissapointed. it has the perfect amount of wash. The bell is freakin amazing. i swear. its my favorite thing on my kit now. the whole ride. get it. you wont be dissapointed.

2. I also own the 14 stage hats. THey also sound amazing they have nice wash to them. Very good open and half open as well as closed sounds. my favorite though is the hihat chokes with them. maaan talk about sweet jesus godly tone.

[Chris]

Rite, im looking into getting a K Ride, but i have a few questions.

Can you crash on them? Do they have a good mix of wash and ping? And is the 20'' any good?

[Cocaberry]

Okay, I have a few things to ask you fellas.

1. AA Raw Bell Dry Ride. How does it sound? Some wash, nice bell, good cymbal? Past experiences, etc.

2. 13" or 14" AAX Stage/Studio Hats. How does it sound? Some wash, nice chick, tight sound when closed? Past experiences, etc.

Recommendations are cool, too.

Thanks in advance.

1. Don't have the Raw Bell Dry Ride but heard it and it sounds awesome.
2. I have the 14" Stage hats in brilliant finish. Great wash, pretty good chick sound, and awesome closed sound. Like Tim said too, the hi-hat chokes are excellent. I'd definitely recommend these hats for all around general use.

[HeLLmO]

1. I have the AA raw bell and first off lemme say that you wont be dissapointed. it has the perfect amount of wash. The bell is freakin amazing. i swear. its my favorite thing on my kit now. the whole ride. get it. you wont be dissapointed.


how's the crash on the AA Raw Dry Bell, i'm definatly thinkin' of getting it for my next ride, and while crashing it doesn't really matter, i would like to know how it sounds

[static]

http://youtube.com/profile?user=lpdrummer8

That's pretty convenient.

[HeLLmO]

yea. it really is isn't it

[Panopticon]

I'm looking for a good ride to contrast my K Heavy ride.

I'm not a whore so i'm not picky.

Basically my K has lots of ping and not much wash and a really cutting bell.

I want a ride that's more washy and jazzy but still has a good strong bell. I was looking at K Customs or the Sweet ride. What would you guys recommend? (I can get anything but Sabian, Zildjian, Paiste, Stagg, and Turkish a little easier)

Gimme watcha got!

[Seafroggys]

I'm looking for a good ride to contrast my K Heavy ride.

I'm not a whore so i'm not picky.

Basically my K has lots of ping and not much wash and a really cutting bell.

I want a ride that's more washy and jazzy but still has a good strong bell. I was looking at K Customs or the Sweet ride. What would you guys recommend? (I can get anything but Sabian, Zildjian, Paiste, Stagg, and Turkish a little easier)

Gimme watcha got!

Something bright and washy then.

I'll just say an A Sweet Ride.

[bobby__johnny]

i says 22" AA Medium Ride

[Drum Phil]

A Custom flat ride.

[Panopticon]

i says 22" AA Medium Ride

my school has a fairly old 22" med ride. I asked my teacher if i could buy it but she wouldn't let me...it's a lovely cymbal...too bad ppl wrote all over it...lucky it was with pencil.

[Tim]

how's the crash on the AA Raw Dry Bell, i'm definatly thinkin' of getting it for my next ride, and while crashing it doesn't really matter, i would like to know how it sounds

i dunno i havnt really crashed on it at all yet butim sure it would sound ok. probably not as well as you think though its a medium heavy.

[HeLLmO]

k, cool, i don't plan on crashing it much anyway, just on occasion

[Chris]

Rite, im looking into getting a K Ride, but i have a few questions.

Can you crash on them? Do they have a good mix of wash and ping? And is the 20'' any good?

No one answered to bump.

[Panopticon]

which model K ride? or are you just talking about the K "Ride"?

[Chris]

which model K ride? or are you just talking about the K "Ride"?

'The' K Ride.

[chewaz]

i want to get that funk's hi hat chick "tttzzzt", wich one the AA sizzle or the aaxcelrator bot h14" ?

[Seafroggys]

i want to get that funk's hi hat chick "tttzzzt", wich one the AA sizzle or the aaxcelrator bot h14" ?

I can get that quite well with my New Beats. I play lotsa funky grooves!

[static]

I can get that quite well with my New Beats. I play lotsa funky grooves!

Oh Frog, you're such a whore.

[chewaz]

I can get that quite well with my New Beats. I play lotsa funky grooves!
i want to get that funk's hi hat chick "tttzzzt", wich one the AA sizzle or the aaxcelrator bot h14" ?

ok but i nevere liked zildjians, so from these two sabians? wich one

[Tim]

go with the xcelerators.

[Seafroggys]

ok but i nevere liked zildjians, so from these two sabians? wich one

New Beats are above Zildjians....seriously, they should be their own brand.

[Ming-a-Ling]

ok but i nevere liked zildjians, so from these two sabians? wich one

I used to have the sizzle hats. I traded them in for New Beats. They're pretty good. You cannot stop the sizzle though, when you play them open, it can be pretty overwhelming, but when closed they sound really nice. They're also incredibly loud.

[Cobra]

Hey all, I am looking for a pair of hats used for funk and rock. What would be the best? A custom hihats? New beats?

[HeLLmO]

AAX Stage would be good, Zildjian Quick beats would work(they OWN new beats), AAX Fusion might be good, Istanbul Trad Funk hats would definatly work for funk

[Chester]

AAX Stage would be good, Zildjian Quick beats would work(they OWN new beats), AAX Fusion might be good, Istanbul Trad Funk hats would definatly work for funk
yes! i love those quick beats.
You gave pretty much all the suggestions i was going to give, look into those.

[We_Love_Lime]

Yep.

Those Sizzle Hats are pretty tight as well.

[MXicanDrummer]

i'm looking into getting a Sabian 21" AA Rock Ride. I play rock and punk and I really liked the sound of it when I tried it out. Any thoughts?

[Inpropagation]

This is lame, the HHX groove hats are 360 ****in dollars.

Anyone know any hats like them with a smaller price tag?

[MeaninglessPhoto]

Im looking for a china with a lot of sizzle in it. Ive looked at Zildjian Swish and Swish knockers but I dont like the price tags. I dont care what brand name it is.

[static]

i'm looking into getting a Sabian 21" AA Rock Ride. I play rock and punk and I really liked the sound of it when I tried it out. Any thoughts?

Buybuybuybuybuybuybuy.

I played one of those at guitar center a few days back, it sounds amazing. It was versatile, as I was playing on a 9 piece DW with the most percussion I've ever seen in my life, and it sounded great with everything.

Definitely go for it man.

Hey Chester what town do you live in?

[HeLLmO]

i'm looking into getting a Sabian 21" AA Rock Ride. I play rock and punk and I really liked the sound of it when I tried it out. Any thoughts?

excellent ride. if u want an idea of how it sounds u can check out the RHCP live in hyde park CD, because i believe chad used it on that tour

[Retarded Chipple]

Ok I have a 16" AAXplosion crash. I dunno whether to get an 18" or a 19" Xplosion to go with it! Any ideas/suggestions?

[HeLLmO]

doesn't really matter, 18'' will probably be more versitile, i would just get both

[MXicanDrummer]

God those crashes are amazing!

Edit: I have a 16" and an 18" and they compliment each other very well.

[We_Love_Lime]

Im looking for a china with a lot of sizzle in it. Ive looked at Zildjian Swish and Swish knockers but I dont like the price tags. I dont care what brand name it is.

Try out some Istanbulies?

Or...Wuhan with Rivits.

[joe_04_04]

im not good with describing cymbals, but im looking for a pair of hats. I want them to be a distinct hi pitched tick when tapping them closed. Not a lose sloshy deep sound like you get with cheaper hats. Hi pitched resonation sound when opened. and a quit sounding click when pressing the pedal. Overall high pitched and very smooth sounding. between 200-400 dollars is my limit. thanks to any help i recieve

[Seafroggys]

im not good with describing cymbals, but im looking for a pair of hats. I want them to be a distinct hi pitched tick when tapping them closed. Not a lose sloshy deep sound like you get with cheaper hats. Hi pitched resonation sound when opened. and a quit sounding click when pressing the pedal. Overall high pitched and very smooth sounding. between 200-400 dollars is my limit. thanks to any help i recieve

New Beats

(is this like New Beats week or something?)

[Tim]

im not good with describing cymbals, but im looking for a pair of hats. I want them to be a distinct hi pitched tick when tapping them closed. Not a lose sloshy deep sound like you get with cheaper hats. Hi pitched resonation sound when opened. and a quit sounding click when pressing the pedal. Overall high pitched and very smooth sounding. between 200-400 dollars is my limit. thanks to any help i recieve

AA regular hats are what you need my friend.

[Chester]

Buybuybuybuybuybuybuy.

I played one of those at guitar center a few days back, it sounds amazing. It was versatile, as I was playing on a 9 piece DW with the most percussion I've ever seen in my life, and it sounded great with everything.

Definitely go for it man.

Hey Chester what town do you live in?
schwoah, i live in worcester.


and yes, whoever asked listen to him, get that 21" rock ride, its good.

[HeLLmO]

im not good with describing cymbals, but im looking for a pair of hats. I want them to be a distinct hi pitched tick when tapping them closed. Not a lose sloshy deep sound like you get with cheaper hats. Hi pitched resonation sound when opened. and a quit sounding click when pressing the pedal. Overall high pitched and very smooth sounding. between 200-400 dollars is my limit. thanks to any help i recieve

AA Regulars, maybe AAX Stage, Quick Beats

[HeLLmO]

schwoah, i live in worcester.


and yes, whoever asked listen to him, get that 21" rock ride, its good.

i think we should have a union of all MX ppl from massahusetts, then we should all go on strike, on strike of what? i do not know, but we should

[Chester]

yes! a riot in the streets... for no reason.

and just think, the worst that could happen is get arrested, but wed prolly make front page on the paper.

[HeLLmO]

i can see it now

"Local Drummers Arrested for Sit In at Guitar Center"

[Chester]

woot, i say we make a club or sumthin

(look at the headline)

like i could be president or sumthin,and we could have comittees... or just do nothing and pretend were in a club.

[HeLLmO]

i like it, i'll definatly join

[Chester]

YES! this is the first time we have disrupted the flow of something...
this thread!


to put it back in track, iv always been curious, what do you guys think are the best cowbells, il eventually get one or a few, but i dunno, or should i just hit whatever i can, and choose what i like the best.

[We_Love_Lime]

Lp Salsa Cow Bells?

Plan B has them. Or something.

Black Beautys. Ridge(?) Riders ( the one with the plastic thing ).

[static]

I'm so in the club.

Okay, so I got the 14" Stage Hats, and I'm returning them.

14" Vault Vs. 13" K Vs. 13"/14" Quick Beats.

Gogogogogogogo.

[HeLLmO]

I'm so in the club.

Okay, so I got the 14" Stage Hats, and I'm returning them.

14" Vault Vs. 13" K Vs. 13"/14" Quick Beats.

Gogogogogogogo.


umm....damn.....uhh......well......get the vaults and the quick beats.....then give me the quick beats.

seriously though, play all 3 and buy which ever you like, because they are all great hats

[styler]

Ok I have a 16" AAXplosion crash. I dunno whether to get an 18" or a 19" Xplosion to go with it! Any ideas/suggestions?
if i had to have 2 of the 3, it would be the 18 and the 19...but i like my crashes to have the same relative decay :(

[Iskandar]

New Beats

(is this like New Beats week or something?)
Every week is New Beats week. I have a pair of them myself.

[Seafroggys]

Every week is New Beats week. I have a pair of them myself.

Wi-5!

[raz0r]

Every week is New Beats week. I have a pair of them myself.
I don't like New Beats, myself, every pair I've tried just hasn't appealed to me.

Those Signature SoundEdges though, now that's a whole different story. I'd kill for a pair of those.

[lmldrummer]

AA Regulars, maybe AAX Stage, Quick Beats

I have Reg. AA over Rock AA and it sounds good, so I would guess regulars would sound good, never heard the others in real life.

[HeLLmO]

I have Reg. AA over Rock AA and it sounds good, so I would guess regulars would sound good, never heard the others in real life.

they're pretty good, the 15'' version of reg. AAs are by far the best

[Chris]

What are people thoughts on Paiste's Dark Energy Ride Mark I rides?

I ask as im still after a ride, and love the sound of Abe Laboriel Jr (Paul McCartney's drummer) ride. So at the moment, it is between a 22''Dark Energy Ride Mark I and a 22" K ride.

I play 'poppy' type music, and need a crashable ride, that is dark sounding, with washy and ping.

[Iskandar]

I don't like New Beats, myself, every pair I've tried just hasn't appealed to me.

Those Signature SoundEdges though, now that's a whole different story. I'd kill for a pair of those.
Yeah, those are god. They're really expensive though.

[Drum Phil]

Im more into the MKII's tbh