*** The Cymbal Finder ***

[styler]

ok, last question (AGAIN). So, you know that cymbals fit together when their thickness is similar?
not necesarily. but generally cymbals of the same size and thickness will meld together abit better. some people like bigger or smaller cymbals though. i personally like 16" thin crashes.

16" aaxplosion
16" HHXtreme
16" HHX evolution

etc etc, like that.

it all depends on what you like the sound of, versus the feel of the cymbal, versus the type of music you play.

heavier music will want brighter, softer will want darker tones. etc etc.

[styler]

Which one: K custom ride, K ride, or Paiste Rude ride? All 20". Needs versatility.
the paiste rude is totally different sounding than the other two. the paiste rude has lots of projection with a whole lot of ping, the k customs are more tonal rides.

[HeLLmO]

^and it ain't to versitile(the rude) 22'' K Heavy ride ftw

[styler]

whats ftw stand for?

the heavy ride has nice overtones, but i dont think its prominent enough in the music.

[HeLLmO]

i belive ftw stands for For The Win, or atleast that is my understanding

[TTTSNB]

How would this crash setup work?
15" K Custom
16" HHXPlosion
17" HHXPlosion
18" Stage
19" Vault
20" Stage

[HeLLmO]

sounds very nice to me HHXplosions are great, stage crashes are great, i love big vaults, and i'm not to sure about the 15'', but i know K customs in general are good, so i'm sure it won't suck

[Tim]

How would this crash setup work?
15" K Custom
16" HHXPlosion
17" HHXPlosion
18" Stage
19" Vault
20" Stage

do you mean the HHX stage crashes? if so that looks like a great crash setup. Probably wouldnt be as good if they were AAX's so id say HHX :D.

[styler]

i would probably raise the k custom to a 16"

thats about it.

the stages are a good bit louder than the other crashes.

[saars]

heavier music will want brighter, softer will want darker tones. etc etc.

are you serious? I guess I better look for brighter cymbals...

i belive ftw stands for For The Win, or atleast that is my understanding

mmmhmm, that's what it's for.

[TTTSNB]

are you serious? I guess I better look for brighter cymbals...



mmmhmm, that's what it's for.
Yeah, but its a bit of a paradox. For heavy music, you're not gonna be able to hit them very hard at speed, so what I'd suggest is bigger, but fairly thin cymbals, like 18", 19" Vaults, Stages, etc.

[\m/-CHeV-\m/]

i have a k custom 18" crash, and my next buy will be an a custom proj crash.. they sound very alike..

[playwithfire]

^Not in my experience!

[styler]

are you serious? I guess I better look for brighter cymbals...

its not a rule or anything just guidelines, heavier music usually wants the drumming to stand out abit, where in jazz and etc its abit more about expression.

im not very happy with my 20" projection crash, mighty loud, but it doesnt meld with any of my other crashes.

sure there HHX evo's. but thats not the point :lol:

its a nice aux ride though, ontop of it being a good crash with others of the same size. just not the most manuverable crash ever.

[saars]

Ok, let's try this again, but only with the crashes:

18" A Thin Crash
17" AAXplosion Crash
16" Vault Crash

Opinions? C&C appreciated

[KK2K5]

Im looking for a much cheaper alternative to Mike Portnoys Max Stax range. Are there any cymbals or cymbal stacks that could produce a similar sound but for a much lower price? I also think that MP's stax are heavily eq'd on the albums and that the psund in real life is fairly different so im looking for a sound similar to the DT albums.

[Tim]

Im looking for a much cheaper alternative to Mike Portnoys Max Stax range. Are there any cymbals or cymbal stacks that could produce a similar sound but for a much lower price? I also think that MP's stax are heavily eq'd on the albums and that the psund in real life is fairly different so im looking for a sound similar to the DT albums.

stack any 2 cymbals and youll get that sound. Just stack some cheap wuhans man. wuhan 12inch china on top of a 14inch crash or something.

[Tim]

Ok, let's try this again, but only with the crashes:

18" A Thin Crash
18" AAXplosion Crash
16" Vault Crash

Opinions? C&C appreciated


fix'd

[playwithfire]

the projection crashes are really thick. the stage crash is a thinner cymbal. might not meld. the dark crash im not sure about.I never noticed this post before. Projections are Medium Thin, Stage's are Medium...

[saars]

fix'd


ok, so the main crash is gonna be the AAXplosion and the crash on my right would be the a thin crash and the crash on the left of my hi hats would be the vault. Good enough?

[Cocaberry]

I never noticed this post before. Projections are Medium Thin, Stage's are Medium...

No, Stages are medium-thin also, according to their 2005-2006 catalog.

[styler]

I never noticed this post before. Projections are Medium Thin, Stage's are Medium...
my 20" is a good bit heavier and thicker than a rock crash man. stages are probably more medium thin than the projection's.

[playwithfire]

Hmm... I stand corrected, I always thought it was Studio = Thin, Stage = Medium. I guess I need to read up a little more on Sabian, don't know them quite as well as Zildjian I suppose. Sorry for posting information that is apparently wrong guys!

[styler]

i forgive you. your a canadian, so all is well.

[Drum Phil]

:lol: Styler man, thats mean

[styler]

shuttup you brit! :lol:

ilu

DAMMIT! i keep missing my posts. i hit 2000. dammmmmiiittt.

[flasportsfan88]

Then whats the difference between Studio and Stage? and isnt Projection a Zildjian title

[KK2K5]

stack any 2 cymbals and youll get that sound. Just stack some cheap wuhans man. wuhan 12inch china on top of a 14inch crash or something.

I know it sounds stupid but whats the correct way to stack cymbals? Do you literally just put 1 on top of the other or do they need to be seperated by felt? And how would 2 crashes stacked different from a china/crash combo?

[styler]

i dont know the difference off by heart.

www.sabian.com if you wanna find out.

projection is a zildjian type of crash.

there isnt really a set way to stack them. if there cheaper cymbals removing the felt might get a more desired sound. if there higher quality more pricey cymbals you might wanna put the felt on them just to extend the life of them.

[Drummer Freak 911]

I tried sabian xs20s 2day. and i didn't find anything wrong with them. whats your opinions? :confused:

[Cocaberry]

I tried sabian xs20s 2day. and i didn't find anything wrong with them. whats your opinions? :confused:

When I started I got XS20s. They were ok. Then when I upgraded to AAs and AAXs I realised that I should have just bought them from the beginning instead of wasting $300 on the XS20 pack.

They are decent for starting out on though. Better than B8s. ProSonix would be better but I think they might have discontinued that line.

[destroyer of senses]

A ping ride below 600$$ Australian

[Cocaberry]

A ping ride below 600$$ Australian

What is your question?

[HeLLmO]

well, either he wants a link to a place where he can get an A ping ride for under 600, or he wants to know a good ping ride for under 600, in which case i recommend the Zildjian A Ping Ride or sabian's neil peart sig paragon ride

[Drum Phil]

I want a 20" Crash, give me some ideas. Preferably sabian but im not that bothered

[spirit]

I want a 20" Crash, give me some ideas. Preferably sabian but im not that bothered

Vault
HH Thin
HH Medium Thin
AAX Studio
AAX Stage
AA Thin
AA Medium Thin
Chad Smith Explosion

A Custom Crash
A Custom Projection Crash
A Thin
A Medium Thin
Oriental Crash of Doom

I have tended to the thinner side of things, as any thicker, and it'd need a harder hit to get it to open up. If that's more the thing you want, then obviously go for mediums.

[Drum Phil]

Chad smith explosion doesnt sound like a bad idea :) or the vault. Be a bit of a bastard to find the chad smith though. Mebe an AAXstage.

[spirit]

Chad smith explosion doesnt sound like a bad idea :) or the vault. Be a bit of a bastard to find the chad smith though. Mebe an AAXstage.

Yes, it could be. I don't ever recall seeing one. I mean, they could always get one, but you wouldn't know exactly how it'd sound.

[spirit]

On the Paiste side of things...

Traditional Thin
Signature Full (which is a medium, but responds well to a lighter touch)
2002 Crash (medium weight)
2002 Paperthin (new for 2006, the regular "Thin" only comes in 19")
Giant Beat Multi-Funtional

[spirit]

My mention of the Chad Smith, and your metion of finding one jogged my memory. I know where an 18" one is. Not 20" I'm afraid, but as with the BD pedal, if you're interested...

[Drum Phil]

I aint got the cash for it at the moment. I found a pedal that im goin for.

[spirit]

I aint got the cash for it at the moment. I found a pedal that im goin for.

Ahhh. Whatcha getting?

[FockerTheLopper]

I want a 20" Crash, give me some ideas. Preferably sabian but im not that bothered
Primary- HHX, Vault, A, A Custom, 2002, Traditional
Secondary- AAX, AA, A Custom(heavier ones), Sigs, most types of istanbul or bosph
Effect- Stanton Moore Trash Crash, Oriental Crash of Doom

Pretty good list, I've tried all the cymbals exept for the effect ones and istanbul/bosph, but I've heard clips and those are what'd they be good for. The reason I put some as secondary is because some need to be hit too hard to get a good sound and they aren't as veratile. If you play metal secondary can be used as primary, if you play jazz and lighter stuff you can get K, K customs or HH's but I don't really think you want a 20'' crash if your playing jazz or something light.

[Drum Phil]

Oriental crash of doom ey. Nice idea, it'll be my 4th crash so i dont think i could count it as primary. I forgot to mention, i'd like one i can wail on :)

Ahhh. Whatcha getting?

Eliminator

[FockerTheLopper]

Oriental crash of doom ey. Nice idea, it'll be my 4th crash so i dont think i could count it as primary. I forgot to mention, i'd like one i can wail on :)



Eliminator
Ahh, in that case, check out the trash crash AND oriental crash of doom, both very different and are good for fourth:amaze: crashes. From my understanding the Trash Crash still sings when played soft, so I'd go for that.

[Drum Phil]

Who's it made by?

[We_Love_Lime]

Who's it made by?

Zildjian Man. I gots a 20 Incher of the Zildjian Oriental Crash Of Doom. Expensive it is, but you won't be dissapointed. The Stanton Moore Is similar ( Made By Bosphorus ).

Both are very Trashy...China like cymbals...I don't know if the feel is something you could wail on...?

[Drum Phil]

I meant the Stanton one. I know what the crash of doom is

[We_Love_Lime]

I meant the Stanton one. I know what the crash of doom is

Bosphrous. They have sound clips at cymbalholic.com and bosphorus website....I don't know if its good for crash riding ( asuming thats what you mean ) my crash of doom just washes up and it doesnt sound good....

[spirit]

Oh yeh, thanks for reminding me. The Stanton Moore Trash Crash sounds awesome, in a dark and trashy kind of way.

Also, the Istanbul Trash hit, orin fact any large Istanbul/Bosphorus cymbal would be great.

[destroyer of senses]

A ping ride below 600$$ Australian i dont no what i was thinking last night.... :smoke:... what i meant to say is im looking for a ride cymbol to replace my ZXT so just some oppinions on good ride cymbols for no Specific style

[HeLLmO]

well, lets see, i'm not familiar with austrailian money, but look at the sabian AA rides(especially the sabian AA Raw Dry Bell Ride), some of the sabian signature rides or AAX rides, umm, Zildjian A rides, and Meinl Amun and Byzance rides

[Time]

in your opinion, should i buy a 20" a medium ride for $200, or save up a little more for a K/K custom?

[aznriceball]

the A medium is a great ride. don't you have ears? try them out! then use your friends ears and try them out! cymbals are LONG term purchases, so buy the ones you REALLY want. from what you're typing im going to guess that you like the Ks more? then save! who knows, you may like the a medium more than the K..

[Time]

Yeah I have to try them out, i was just seeing what others thought. i think im gonna go to GC tommorow and try out a whole bunch of cymbals and narrow it down to a few.

[quietone]

I know other have brought it up long ago, but I just bought a Zildjian A Sweet ride 21".....absolutely amazing..there were four at the store...some were..eh...but this one was amzing...amazing attack and warm wash (i picked the lowest pitched of the four which also had the best bell and ping..actually and wash)..THIS CYMBAL IS AMAZING..you want a versatile cymbal for anything....this is it

[saars]

^^ I totally agree, but now I think I've ran into a problem with my ride. When looking closely under the ride, I can see a thin crack, about 1/4 of an inch, but the crack didn't reach the other side. This might have happened because I started crashing the ride at my first band practice, but I'm really not sure. So, should I just stop crashing my ride? (I'm sorry, this might be a really rhetorical question, but maybe there was something else that cause it to crack...)

[3_times_round]

in your opinion, should i buy a 20" a medium ride for $200, or save up a little more for a K/K custom?

I hated the A Medium ride, WAYYY too washy, but thats my opinion. I would defiently save up for a KC Ride (try the KC Session, I've got one and its awesome).

Try them both first before making a decision.

[CombatWombat3]

Hey everyone, it's been a while since I've been here.....

Right now I'm definetely attracted to the idea of adding a china to my setup, but I would need a very versatile china. It would probably need to be something smaller, and not too loud. As for actual sound qualities, most importantly I want it to blend. Any suggestions would be great. Oh, and I don't have a big budget at all.

Thanks!

[Tim]

Hey everyone, it's been a while since I've been here.....

Right now I'm definetely attracted to the idea of adding a china to my setup, but I would need a very versatile china. It would probably need to be something smaller, and not too loud. As for actual sound qualities, most importantly I want it to blend. Any suggestions would be great. Oh, and I don't have a big budget at all.

Thanks!


16inch AA chinese. I have the 18 and i love it. Its a nice versatile china.

[Drum Phil]

14" HHX Evolution mini china.

Im considering a 17" Paiste rude thin crash. Opinions?

[styler]

i think it would stand out a good bit more than your other crashes phil.

[Drum Phil]

Perhaps. Ive had another change of plan now.

[styler]

oh no...:lol:

[Drum Phil]

20" Oriental crash of doom baby

[HeLLmO]

oh hellz ya. do that, or a 2oo2

[styler]

16" 17" 18" HHX Evolution crash's
21" hh raw bell dry ride
10" HHX evolution splash
18" HHX china
14" K custom dark hi-hats
11" HH icebell
2x12" HHX evo splashes as aux-pedal hats.

looking for a left side china and maybe a few more splashes to meld with that.
also a second pair of 14" hats

hoping the china to be about the same volume as the 18" hhx china

i was also thinking about a 14" mini-china.

any ideas guys?

[spirit]

20" A Custom china maybe? A brighter contrast?

7" and 10" Evo splashes. Maybe a 10" or 12" from the new Legacy range?

HHX Mini Chinese.

[VTDS_xx]

Drum Phil: Paiste 20" Signature Full Crash. Amazing.

[Drum Phil]

Way out of my price range

[spirit]

Way out of my price range

£193

Nope. Even I can't help you this time :lol:


On a seperate note, I have a real craving for one of the new Zildjian Constantinoples.

22" K Constantinople Hi Bell Thin Ride, Low.

*creams*

Funny thing is, for the price they'll be going for, I could get a real Vintage K, made in Istanbul 40 or 50 years ago. Silly Zildjian.

To give this post a point, beyond me having an orgasm, is there another ride out there with similar qualities to this one, like an Istanbul or a Bosphorus? Shame it probably won't look as cool. I'll say this for Zildjian, they always make them look good.

[Ethan.]

Will someone please tell me the sound characterisics of a wuhan traditional ride, and the differences between the medium and medium-heavy one?

[Ethan.]

I was looking forward to some informative replies...

[spirit]

I was looking forward to some informative replies...

Me too. I've never played Wuhan stuff. It's rare in the UK. But hopefully someone will notice there are new replies to the thread and answer your question. And maybe mine.

[Tim]

Will someone please tell me the sound characterisics of a wuhan traditional ride, and the differences between the medium and medium-heavy one?

the medium will have more wash to it and the heavier one will have more ping to it.

[Ethan.]

Thanks! Do you know what a Wuhan ride sounds like in general?

[Sabian4015]

Ok, looking for a splash. 8" or 10". Just an overall good splash, any price range. But cheap+good quality=perfect!:thumb:

[FockerTheLopper]

Wuhan - cheap, very bright and trashy.

Zildjian A - Great overall splash veristile splash with body
Zildjian A custom - Transparent qualities, would be good as a smaller one for the double splash effect(hit one after another 16th notes, small then big)
Zildjian K - Dry and musical(for lack of a better word) they really sing
Zildjian K custom - Never heard them played but like all other K customs I can say that they're great
Zildjian Oriental - Very loud and raw, heavy too

Sabian HHX - Great cymbals, might be the best on the market, hard to find though
Sabian paragon - Haven't seen these talked about too much recently... Great splash, very distinct, if you listen it sounds transparent but it still has body, hard to describe
Sabian AAX or AA(Played it at sam ash can't remember which it was) - Papery sounding with good attack and decay. Horrible tone

Paiste Sig - Great great great. Overpriced

Istanbul, Bosphorus(may be the best) go to www.cymbalsonly.com and check them out for yourself!

[lilphilw]

hey im looking for a zildjian crash 16". Just cracked my other one :angry: so looking for another. The most i want to spend is around 80$ thanks

[HeLLmO]

u have no hope of buying a good zildjian cymbal under 80 bucks, srry. buy a paiste PST5 instead, that should be under 80 bucks, or near to it. if u look on ebay u MAY be able to find something, but don't settle for anything with planet Z, ZBT,ZXT,ZXT titanium or Z custom in the name of the cymbal, because the PST5 will blow them all away

[FockerTheLopper]

hey im looking for a zildjian crash 16". Just cracked my other one :angry: so looking for another. The most i want to spend is around 80$ thanks
Go with ebay, low level cymbals aren't worth it. Maybe save up and buy a good new one. I don't see why the most you want to spend is 80 if your serious about drumming.

[lilphilw]

The thing is i have like 60 now and i dont have a job which doesnt help. My crash is pretty dented up and pretty much need one as soon as possible.

[FockerTheLopper]

The thing is i have like 60 now and i dont have a job which doesnt help. My crash is pretty dented up and pretty much need one as soon as possible.
Get a wuhan, don't know why you only want zildjian, not like your endorsed by them. If you were they'd be free. Wuhans are great cymbals and they're affordable.

[lilphilw]

ok thanks a lot. I only want a zildjian crash because the rest of my set is zildjan.

[Tim]

ok thanks a lot. I only want a zildjian crash because the rest of my set is zildjan.

youll grow out of it. lawl. then get back into it.

[HeLLmO]

ok thanks a lot. I only want a zildjian crash because the rest of my set is zildjan.


brand whoring will only limit the sounds u can get out of ur set. i.e, say u like the Paiste Flanger Bell, but ur a zildjian brand whore, so u don't buy the bell, and u miss out. i would definatly go for the PST5

[Drum Phil]

Ah Mega cup chimes are awesome.

Now for my turn.

Paiste Rude 17" Thin crash(£109) Vs. Zildjian 20" Oriental Crash.

Either way both of these cymbals will end up on my setup. Which first?

Im thinkin the Rude as i dont need the FX crash just yet. I could do with beefing up my main crashes.

[HeLLmO]

yea, if u don't need FX imediatly i would go for the rude, even though the 20'' crash of doom would be nice to have

[spirit]

Personally Phil, I'd just hit that Crash of Doom, but that's the way my taste is running right now, so don't ask me. :lol:

EDIT: Going by the Zildjian site, it doesn't even sound that trashy.

[straycat101]

Alright, i got some money, i'm wondering if i should get either A: a new (probably A/A Custom) crash. or a B: Wuhan splash pack or splash/china pack im not sure if i should get effects, but i dont see the problem really. what do you guys think?

[FockerTheLopper]

Ah Mega cup chimes are awesome.

Now for my turn.

Paiste Rude 17" Thin crash(£109) Vs. Zildjian 20" Oriental Crash.

Either way both of these cymbals will end up on my setup. Which first?

Im thinkin the Rude as i dont need the FX crash just yet. I could do with beefing up my main crashes.
Well I remember seeing your set and seeing a couple of low level cymbals, I suggest replacing them with the crashes you get. Ge tthe Oriental crash, it can never do you wrong.

[steve_o_69]

i would would like to get a chine preferable 18" to 20" with a pure roar and powerfull sound

[Tim]

ok i need some help on this one. I need a ride cymbal and I need something good for live setting in miced and unmiced settings. Progressive/experimental band. Im thinking of getting something thats medium or medium heavy. nothing really above that medium heavy range. Im thinkin the AA raw bell dry ride. Would that be good in a miced and unmiced situation as well? Its medium heavy in weight. Im open to other suggestions too. Preferrably Sabian because they are the cheapest here but will also look into zildjian too. Not paiste...too bloody damn expensive here. ITs a scam i tell ya.

[Drum Phil]

i would would like to get a chine preferable 18" to 20" with a pure roar and powerfull sound

Ufip Tigar china

[CasB]

Wuhan or Stagg china :)

[Drum Phil]

I reckon ima go rude baby :cool:

[Cocaberry]

ok i need some help on this one. I need a ride cymbal and I need something good for live setting in miced and unmiced settings. Progressive/experimental band. Im thinking of getting something thats medium or medium heavy. nothing really above that medium heavy range. Im thinkin the AA raw bell dry ride. Would that be good in a miced and unmiced situation as well? Its medium heavy in weight. Im open to other suggestions too. Preferrably Sabian because they are the cheapest here but will also look into zildjian too. Not paiste...too bloody damn expensive here. ITs a scam i tell ya.

Stage Ride!!!!!

That AA Raw bell dry ride would be better though if you want more ping.

[HeLLmO]

Alright, i got some money, i'm wondering if i should get either A: a new (probably A/A Custom) crash. or a B: Wuhan splash pack or splash/china pack im not sure if i should get effects, but i dont see the problem really. what do you guys think?


well i depends, if u have no crash, then i would suggest getting one, or if u have a low end crash, maybe replace it. if u have 1 or 2 good crashes, and feel that is enough, i would go with the effects, because effects are nice. but in my eyes, one should make sure they have good ride/hats/crash before looking into effects

[We_Love_Lime]

I reckon ima go rude baby :cool:

You dissapoint me, 17 Rude Crash as apposed to 20 Oriental Crash......;(

[HeLLmO]

i think he said he's gonna end up with both

[We_Love_Lime]

Tight.alrght I see it now, at the top; of the page, thanks Hellmo

[straycat101]

well i depends, if u have no crash, then i would suggest getting one, or if u have a low end crash, maybe replace it. if u have 1 or 2 good crashes, and feel that is enough, i would go with the effects, because effects are nice. but in my eyes, one should make sure they have good ride/hats/crash before looking into effects


well i have a nice ride, a nice crash and a lowend crash/hi-hat. but hats are too expensive for me right now

[Drum Phil]

You dissapoint me, 17 Rude Crash as apposed to 20 Oriental Crash......;(

It makes sense to get the cheaper one first

[full collapse]

ok i need some help on this one. I need a ride cymbal and I need something good for live setting in miced and unmiced settings. Progressive/experimental band. Im thinking of getting something thats medium or medium heavy. nothing really above that medium heavy range. Im thinkin the AA raw bell dry ride. Would that be good in a miced and unmiced situation as well? Its medium heavy in weight. Im open to other suggestions too. Preferrably Sabian because they are the cheapest here but will also look into zildjian too. Not paiste...too bloody damn expensive here. ITs a scam i tell ya.

21" AA Dry Ride

It's an awesome ride.

[Corkofski]

hmm

i might be able to get some old 13" new beats off my drum teacher.

anyone got any idea what theyd sound like

asking cos if the "old" maybe affecting the sound

[Tim]

hmm

i might be able to get some old 13" new beats off my drum teacher.

anyone got any idea what theyd sound like

asking cos if the "old" maybe affecting the sound

old cymbals sound great. as do most cymbals with age. any idea how old they are?

[Seafroggys]

hmm

i might be able to get some old 13" new beats off my drum teacher.

anyone got any idea what theyd sound like

asking cos if the "old" maybe affecting the sound

*jizzes*

okay, now thats over with

If its older, its better. If its New Beats, its the best.

So you got something thats better then best! Then again, they're only 13" :(

[Corkofski]

no idea on the age

i havent heard them yet, but i absolutely love the sound of these 15" 70s vintage zildjians (no idea on series) that i play on at my percussion ensemble

i really want them, but they are owned by the east sussex music service, which is owned by the council, and if youve ever tried getting anything off the council...

[Ethan.]

Will someone please tell me the sound characterisics of a wuhan traditional ride
It's been a week and nobody's answered my question. Do you guys hate me or something?

[We_Love_Lime]

It makes sense to get the cheaper one first

I guess.. I wouldn't know.

[Cocaberry]

It's been a week and nobody's answered my question. Do you guys hate me or something?

If nobody has answered then nobody knows the answer to your question. If it's hand hammered it's probably going to be dark. Thats all I know. You should probably go try it out yourself.

[styler]

do some research if it matters that much.

[DruMMeR_BoY14]

hmm

i might be able to get some old 13" new beats off my drum teacher.

anyone got any idea what theyd sound like

asking cos if the "old" maybe affecting the sound

Tight, atriculate chick. Wash will be a bit higher pitched than a 14" model but you'll still be able to get some very nice sounds outta them, they just may not be suited to grunge-styled music as well a larger hat would be. I kinda wish I got them instead of the 14's.

Older the cymbal = better the sound, so dont worry about it affecting them in any negitive way (provided they arent cracked, keyholed etc...)

[Ethan.]

If nobody has answered then nobody knows the answer to your question.
Well it just seems like some people would know... There are so many Wuhan recomendations on this forum.

[Murd_666]

Ok I need help, I'm gonna start saving up for a new cymbal stand but while I'm at it I'm gonna buy a new cymbal. I'm looking for a crash/ride or a ridealble crash/ crashable ride. So I need suggestions. I'm looking for a Mid sounding crash, preferably to the dark side, I HATE bright crashes well most of them. I also want a cutting bell, that I do want towards the bright side. As for riding qualities I want pingy as it can get, but I wouldn't mind wash. I would prefer it to be pretty versitile becuase other than my crap for hats, which I'm getting around to replacing, this is the only cymbal I am going to have. So yeah, I'm looking for something thats good from somewhat low dynamic levels to pretty loud. Preferably Sabian, Istanbul or Zildjian, most other brands Would be a hassle for me to get but I would try.

[FL3P]

^^ you had me worried that were just going to but the stand......anyway try a K Custom or even a regular K.

[Murd_666]

I will look into that, but I was looking for something more to the 18" size, I won't bother with the K custom cause I'm not a fan of them but I will look into the K's I have to try one in person.

[FL3P]

Im giving the 19" K Custom Hybrid a shot, I like bigger crashes as well.

[Quinto]

what k custom ride is most similar to an a ping ride but with more of a dry ping, and more wash?

[Drum Phil]

Special dry ride?

[FL3P]

^^ wouldnt have much wash. I dont know what K Customs would be good for that but a K heavy ride might give you a bit of both. I guess the hybrid is supposed to be crashable as well.

[Quinto]

trying to find my dream cymbal set up, and thought k might hold the sound, i dont like sabian sound for some reason, nothing against them or anything, and i dont have any meinl dealers around

could i get that kind of sound from paistes? ty

also do you think a 21" a ping might give me that kind of thing?(i know id have to get it custom)

[DruMMeR_BoY14]

what k custom ride is most similar to an a ping ride but with more of a dry ping, and more wash?

Maybe a K custom ride, its pretty pingy and has good wash but a lot darker than the ping, which i'm guessing is what you'd be after.

[styler]

trying to find my dream cymbal set up, and thought k might hold the sound, i dont like sabian sound for some reason, nothing against them or anything, and i dont have any meinl dealers around

could i get that kind of sound from paistes? ty

also do you think a 21" a ping might give me that kind of thing?(i know id have to get it custom)
what?

[Quinto]

^read my post before the one you quoted

[chewaz]

i was cheking out my savings the other night and i got like $550, i was thinking on this:
- HH fusion hats 14" (i didn't liked heavy hats but the other i tried out some AA flats and a zxt rock, and the heavines wasnt a problem) or AAX-xcelerator 14"
- 18" HH dark crash, 16" AA thin crash
- 22" HH Heavy ride or a 22" raw bell dry ride but it'll take tooo long

so what do you think, i like this but i want other opinions

[HeLLmO]

i was cheking out my savings the other night and i got like $550, i was thinking on this:
- HH fusion hats 14" (i didn't liked heavy hats but the other i tried out some AA flats and a zxt rock, and the heavines wasnt a problem) or AAX-xcelerator 14"
- 18" HH dark crash, 16" AA thin crash
- 22" HH Heavy ride or a 22" raw bell dry ride but it'll take tooo long

so what do you think, i like this but i want other opinions


if u like it i don't see why u need other options, but u could probably check out zildjian K/K custom of meinl Byzance

[jadester48]

not exactly on topic but i didn't want to make a separate thread for it:
anyone know where i can find a sound sample of Paiste 802 14" hi-hats (or which of their current ranges is equivalent, if any)?

[The Feeding]

what about Z customs for playing metal? will they be heard?

[Vannaroth]

Hey guys, I'm looking for a ride cymbal with alot of ''ping'' to it, I've heard the ping ride and its not bad but it still has quite a few overtones to it. I hear the Avedis Earth ride is meant to be like hitting the bell of a ride cymbal over and over and thats pretty much what I want, though I cant find a sound sample and I want a second opinion.

Can anyone confirm this or provide a link to a sample? thanks

[spirit]

http://www.zildjian.com/EN-US/products/productDetail.ad2?catalogID=1011&typeID=9&productID=1217

Sample on Zildjian site.

[fishbulb]

I played some vault hats at GC last weekend and i really like them. Really clean full sound to them. Any other hats that sound like that?

[chewaz]

what do you think of the 2002 wild ride 22"?

[LostRythym]

Im looking for crash that is about $200 sg dollars(1.6 sg dollar = 1 US dollar) that is warm and blends with music. Now looking at 16" K custom session Crash, HHX 16"/17" Stage Crash, HHXplosion 16" Crash. Thanks.

[We_Love_Lime]

Im looking for crash that is about $200 sg dollars(1.6 sg dollar = 1 US dollar) that is warm and blends with music. Now looking at 16" K custom session Crash, HHX 16"/17" Stage Crash, HHXplosion 16" Crash. Thanks.

320 USD than?

If that's the case

Zildjian CIE Vintage.

It's like butter baby. Like butter.

I probably did my math wrong though.

[styler]

i would have to say probably the 16" or 18" hhxplosion, the k custom session sounds...spongy at best. i didnt really like it at all.

[spirit]

I probably did my math wrong though.

200 $SG

1.6 $SG = 1 $US

200 $SG = ? $US = 200/1.6 = 125 $US


Of course, I could've done my math wrong. :p


Assuming my maths is correct, the crashes you're looking at are either very cheap in Singapore, or out of your price range. Assuming it's the latter, I'd recommend saving up some more money.

[LostRythym]

^^^^^
Haha, Im getting a 40% discount on an already discounted 20%.
Eg. Cost x 80/100 = first discount
discounted cost x 60/100 = final cost.

[destroyer of senses]

How dose every one rate SABIAN HH 20" MEDIUM RIDE just considering bying it and looking for opinions

[styler]

i heard it with all the logos and etc cleaned off, almost made to a brilliant finish, sounded alright, very quiet though. the one i heard most likely sounds nothing like the original though.

[blabla]

i would like to buy a sabian chinese i want a trashy one and one that is not overly loud in volume. what do you guys suggest.

[FL3P]

The Xtreme chinas are very trashy and loud but dry

[Tim]

I love the AA chinese. might wanna get a 16. those are nice. I own the 18 and i love it. Buuut the AA chinese are kinda loud.

[Quinto]

the power ride is wonderful to chewaz

[blabla]

ok guys.
hh thin chinese 18"
hhx chinese 18"
signature devastation chinese 17"

taking in account price, volume, and trashyness

[Drum Phil]

HHX or Sig easy. What are you lookin for in the china?

[Tim]

HHX or Sig

my thoughts exactly. The sig will probably be more expensive though.

[Drum Phil]

Not always. 20.5" Chad smith explosion is cheaper than my 19" AAXplosion.

18" AA Thin crash. Opinions?

[We_Love_Lime]

Not always. 20.5" Chad smith explosion is cheaper than my 19" AAXplosion.

18" AA Thin crash. Opinions?

We have a 16 Zildjian Medium Thin Crash at school.

Sorta like an 18 AA Thin Crash.

Well it sounds like ****e.

Lol....

My knowledge is much appreciated eh?

[flasportsfan88]

Im looking for a Crash I can ride in harder type music. Breakdowns, Chaotic parts, but versitalle enough to use as an accent or for lighter music...

[Tim]

Im looking for a Crash I can ride in harder type music. Breakdowns, Chaotic parts, but versitalle enough to use as an accent or for lighter music...

dont go for anything heavier than a medium crash. Find a good medium thin with a good sized bell on it. LIke the Sabian AA medium thin crash. Or AAX plosion crash.

[Drum Phil]

I just compiled a list of crashes to try :D

17" A thin
18" A Medium thin
18" A Thin
17" A Custom fast
17" A Custom projection
18" A Custom fast

18" AAX Stage
19" AAX Dark
17" HH Dark
17" HH Medium thin
17" HHX Stage
17" HHXtreme
17" HHXplosion

Corrrr

One of those may well be mine soon.

[Ethan.]

What happened to Drum Phil?

[DruMMeR_BoY14]

He was crucified but came back to life to deliver his message of love to the world.

[flasportsfan88]

I just compiled a list of crashes to try :D

17" A thin
18" A Medium thin
18" A Thin
17" A Custom fast
17" A Custom projection
18" A Custom fast

18" AAX Stage
19" AAX Dark
17" HH Dark
17" HH Medium thin
17" HHX Stage
17" HHXtreme
17" HHXplosion

Corrrr

One of those may well be mine soon.

What type of size would give you that better sound, I like the Projection Crash, but what about 18 or 19"?

And stay away from A Zildjians for this?

[Drum Phil]

Those were all ones for me to try but i guess they apply to your needs too. I tend not to like the bigger projection crashes.

[flasportsfan88]

Those were all ones for me to try but i guess they apply to your needs too. I tend not to like the bigger projection crashes.

Too long of a decay?

[blabla]

my thoughts exactly. The sig will probably be more expensive though.

i think the sig is cheaper, the hhx is kinda expensive for a china, i cant find the price you guys know it?
im looking for chinese that is trashy but moderate in volume. any other sabian china's you guys would suggest?

[DruMMeR_BoY14]

18" A Custom Projection crashes are your friend.

[flasportsfan88]

18" A Custom Projection crashes are your friend.

I have Zbts that ive began with... I have a crash ride that i hate to ride it crashing because the decay is just too long, so i ride a 16" Crash, too short, i would guess a 17" would do fine, or even an 18" thats actually a crash and not a crash/ride, Ill go check them out anyway, just need a checklist of thiings to check out...

[DruMMeR_BoY14]

theres more to a cymbal's sound than its size. Crash rides are uslaly horrible things, I'd sugest getting that list that phil posted and going into a store and finding as many models as you can and try them out. Best way of picking a cymbal is to hear it yourself.

[Tim]

I just compiled a list of crashes to try :D

17" A thin
18" A Medium thin
18" A Thin
17" A Custom fast
17" A Custom projection
18" A Custom fast

18" AAX Stage
19" AAX Dark
17" HH Dark
17" HH Medium thin
17" HHX Stage
17" HHXtreme
17" HHXplosion

Corrrr

One of those may well be mine soon.

Definately try an HHX stage. :D. You havnt lived unless you have.

[Drum Phil]

Too long of a decay?

Its not that, i just dont like the tone that much.

Tim, i plan to try the HHX :D Hence why its on the list. Tried the A Thin today and its pretty awesome, think i want something bright like an AAX or A Custom though

[fullmetalhaallee]

OK heres my deal. I have the Avedis box set now, consisting of a 14 inch fash crash, 16 inch medium thin crash, 20 inch medium ride, and my lovely 14 inch new beat hats. I want to start adding on, but I dont know what to start with. I was thinking of 3 options.

A 17 or 18 inch crash- I would want it bright, and want it to open quickly, and not go on forever.

An 8 inch splash, bright and quick

Or an 18 inch china- trashy, quick, but also good ride sounds.


Which one would you get, and what cymbal matches it best??

THANKS!!:chug:

[Drum Phil]

I rather like the 20" A china high.

17" A custom projection crash

[DruMMeR_BoY14]

Go with another crash I'd say. If you like Avedis, try an 18" Medium thin crash, or you could go for an A Custom crash or projection crash, I'd say either one get the 18" model, when your playing with a band you wont need to worry about them ringing forever, the other intruments will cut out the overtones.

[fullmetalhaallee]

Go with another crash I'd say. If you like Avedis, try an 18" Medium thin crash, or you could go for an A Custom crash or projection crash, I'd say either one get the 18" model, when your playing with a band you wont need to worry about them ringing forever, the other intruments will cut out the overtones.

Very true, I was thinking K custom fast crash, again 18 inch, good idea?

[Drum Phil]

Yes it is. 18" HHX power crash might be to your taste as well.

[fullmetalhaallee]

Yes it is. 18" HHX power crash might be to your taste as well.

I like it but not that much, its pretty dark and deep sounding.

[fullmetalhaallee]

The K custom fast crash sounds great on zildjians site, anyone know how accurate that is?

[Drum Phil]

Pretty. I have the 16" fast crash and its amazing. The soundclips not bad like.

[Quinto]

yeah but soundclips arent really very helpful, they make 101's sound like the god of all turkish cymbals

[FooBuddy1989]

20" A custom medium rides are beautiful, and real versatile

[DruMMeR_BoY14]

I think Zildjian EQ's their clips quite a bit, so I'd only use it a guide. See if you can find one in a store, its best to hear them in person.

I'm sure Drum Phil could give you a good description of one, I think he has a 16" model

[flasportsfan88]

Now the tricks finding a place with all of these cymbals....

[DruMMeR_BoY14]

haha yeah, perhaps you could get your shop to order in a few models to test out?

[The Feeding]

hi-hats for playing metal (can take a beating) that sound good played open. Preferably Sabain.

[Seafroggys]

New Beats

....oh you said Sabian?

Well then, that makes things different.....

.....yeah, New Beats.

[flasportsfan88]

I dont meen ju7st riding the crash in breakdowns, just harder parts in any type of music usually ride the crash...

[HeLLmO]

hi-hats for playing metal (can take a beating) that sound good played open. Preferably Sabain.

14'' HHX Groove hats(they pwn new beats IMO)

[Seafroggys]

^^^ Thats a negative.

[flasportsfan88]

Ive tried New Beats before, nice, but just havnt relized why their anonymously the best hi hat according to the boards?

[DruMMeR_BoY14]

Because you can take them to a trash metal gig and then take them to a jazz gig and they'll fit in both situations.

new beats > chad smith > jesus.

[We_Love_Lime]

Because you can take them to a trash metal gig and then take them to a jazz gig and they'll fit in both situations.

new beats > chad smith > jesus.

What if you only play Polka Trash Metal? ( Or one type of music )

10 Recording Customs for the win. ( Or something along the lines )

[DruMMeR_BoY14]

Well i'm sure they'll fit their too (I'd really like to see a polka thrash* metal band)

[LostRythym]

AAX stage hats. They can do anything.

[Chris]

Ive tried New Beats before, nice, but just havnt relized why their anonymously the best hi hat according to the boards?

They are verstale that is all.

But UFIP Class hats pawn them hands down :)

[HeLLmO]

Ive tried New Beats before, nice, but just havnt relized why their anonymously the best hi hat according to the boards?


they're not everyone's favorite. i had them in my school last year for jazz band, and of course, they were great hats, i simply prefer the HHX Groove Hats, because they are also very versitile(and come in 15'' w/o any of the worries of customizing and ****). Seafroggys, however, masturbates to the tought of his new beats most every night, so in his eyes the only hats that deserve to be in existance are new beats

[Snarz]

Does anybody have a Zildjian A 21" Ping ride.If so could you tell me aobut what it sounds like or could take some audio of it.And is $150 Cdn. a good deal for one thanks.

[Plan B.]

Yes, great deal. My 22" cost about $240 CND (new).

I love this ride, to me, it has the perfect balance of strong metalic ping, and deep, roaring wash. You can shank it and let out like a shriek of a sound, I love doing that. The bell is a tank, great bell. Heavy, with force behind it when you shoulder it. It's such an overpowering sound, you can feel it when you belt out quarters on it.

[DruMMeR_BoY14]

I wish I had a 21" ping ride, unfortunantly they aren't in existance, they only make 20 or 22s.

I have the 20" model, and Plan B's description is quite fitting. Killer bell. I got mine for 400 AUS (new), have no idea how much that is CND.

[Snarz]

Okay I sent him an e-mail so I will see what I can do.Hopefully I can get it.

[Seafroggys]

Seafroggys, however, masturbates to the tought of his new beats most every night, so in his eyes the only hats that deserve to be in existance are new beats

shhhh! thats our little secret!

[HeLLmO]

shhhh! thats our little secret!


hahah

but i gotta be honest, my drum teacher got some new beats today, and put them in a small little crammed room where i have lessons....to be honest....the sound wanted to make me kill babies

[Seafroggys]

that explains why my closet is full of desecrated baby corpses recently.

[Chippy569]

Bobby, i need a replacement for my 16" AA El Sabor. I loved that baby to death, but she cracked on the rim when i dropped it. what can you recommend for me?

[HeLLmO]

that explains why my closet is full of desecrated baby corpses recently.


probably, but once i get my HHX groove hats all those babies will be ressurected, so don't feel too bad about the slaughtering...just don't eat the dead babies, believe me, u don't want a case of TBS(tasty baby syndrome)

[Snarz]

So I just email the guy back in I can get the Ping Ride for $125.00 now!

[flasportsfan88]

I thought the Zildjian A Ping ride didnt project enough, I like the A custom Ping or Zildjian A sweet ride

[raz0r]

hi-hats for playing metal (can take a beating) that sound good played open. Preferably Sabain.

Paiste 14" Signature SoundEdge hats.

Best hats ever created tbh.

[DruMMeR_BoY14]

Ok I'm looking for another splash, I already have a 10" Stagg Myra and a 10" Radia an I was looking at getting a 8". I want something bright and cutting so I was thinking about an A or A custom, but any other suggestions that you guys have would be apprieciated.

[Tim]

Ok I'm looking for another splash, I already have a 10" Stagg Myra and a 10" Radia an I was looking at getting a 8". I want something bright and cutting so I was thinking about an A or A custom, but any other suggestions that you guys have would be apprieciated.

AA.

[terry_bozzio_wanna_be]

what is an alternative to the paiste signature line and (this is less important) the dark energy ride

[DruMMeR_BoY14]

The sigs are kind of like A Customs, and the dark sigs I guess can be related to K Customs/HHX.

Remember though Paiste cymbals are created in a totally different way to Zildjian, Sabian and Turkish cymbals. Instead of creating a "blank" cymbal, which gets sorted by weight and then turned into whatever cymbal, Paiste start with the end cymbal in mind and create the "blank" to match it.

Paiste cymbals are also designed so that any 18" power crash will sound like any other 18" power crash, unlike other cymbal companies where each cymbal will have its own voice, so you could get 2 medium crashes and they would sound just a little bit different. So yeah Paiste are in a league of their own.

[spirit]

what is an alternative to the paiste signature line and (this is less important) the dark energy ride

I'd say the fact that it's a specific model is more important, because then at least we can match a similar kind of thing, because the Signature range is pretty diverse.

[DruMMeR_BoY14]

I'd say the fact that it's a specific model is more important, because then at least we can match a similar kind of thing, because the Signature range is pretty diverse.

Yeah the sigs have a few dark models as well as quite a few bright ones, so its hard to relate them to another line.

[Murd_666]

Ok I'm looking for another splash, I already have a 10" Stagg Myra and a 10" Radia an I was looking at getting a 8". I want something bright and cutting so I was thinking about an A or A custom, but any other suggestions that you guys have would be apprieciated.Deffinately Sabian AAX, that thing may be small small but it cuts surprisingly well.

[TTTSNB]

Im looking for a Crash I can ride in harder type music. Breakdowns, Chaotic parts, but versitalle enough to use as an accent or for lighter music...
19" Vault Crash. :thumb:

[Drum Phil]

19" K Custom Hybrid crash

[HeLLmO]

19" K Custom Hybrid crash


if he robs a bank first

[DruMMeR_BoY14]

2 banks if he lives in Aus.

[Quinto]

7 if he lives in my pants.

how much would it cost to get a 21" ping ride custom made from zildjian??

not planning on it any time soon, but someday

[We_Love_Lime]

200 Per every Inch.

[Drum Phil]

Zildjian wont make custom cymbals

[drummingducktape]

so i need a cymbal, a main crash so to speak. i want one that i can crash in the middle of a beat and not have it beak throiugh the whole beat. so a kinda fast decay but i still want that nice bright sound, im thinking of a K but im open to anyhting

[Quinto]

oh that sucks.

is there a company that makes custom cymbals that has a ride similar to an
a ping ride?

^18inch avedis fast crash?(zildjian)

[drummingducktape]

i was tinking on the smaller end though, 15 or 16

[Drum Phil]

16" K Custom fast crash?

Sabian will probably make you a ride close to that sound. Might be worth it to mail them

[Snarz]

Saluda makes custom cymbals.Just e-mail them,tell them what you want and they will try to get as close to it as possible.

[DruMMeR_BoY14]

7 if he lives in my pants.

how much would it cost to get a 21" ping ride custom made from zildjian??

not planning on it any time soon, but someday

Save yourself the pain and money and get a 20" or 22".

[Tim]

sabian makes custom sizes to the public. noob ol zildjian being all lame.

[Quinto]

im already getting a 20" a ping ride. im just curious for when i start making my dream cymbal set-up, and after it cracks

[Drum Phil]

After it cracks? My rides older than you and is in perfect condition. You should NEVER crack a ride!

[We_Love_Lime]

Zildjian wont make custom cymbals

Yeah They Do. Not very often/it's not very likely.

200 USD for every inch you take or give to a cymbal.

For isntance...

A 2 inch Ping Ride would cost about...

3840 USD.

[Quinto]

oh, then when i want a new sound, i havent cracked a ride, i was just saying

[Panopticon]

oh that sucks.

is there a company that makes custom cymbals that has a ride similar to an
a ping ride?

^18inch avedis fast crash?(zildjian)

20" Zildjian K Heavy ride.

[Chester]

Yeah They Do. Not very often/it's not very likely.

200 USD for every inch you take or give to a cymbal.

For isntance...

A 2 inch Ping Ride would cost about...

3840 USD.

lol, cuz thats totally worth it

[Murd_666]

I'm looking for a seconday crash, on the smaller side. Something that won't drown out everyone else when I go to ride on it, any suggestions?

[We_Love_Lime]

lol, cuz thats totally worth it

Heck Yes it is.

[r.o.a.r]

yo dudes i need your opinion. what do you think is better for you, the zildjian sweet ride traditional finish or the zildjian sweet ride brilliant finish? thanks.:p

[DruMMeR_BoY14]

that is entirely a matter of opinion, and a question of asthetics. Get whichever you wish.

Though keep in mind briliant cymbals have a slightly darker tone, its hardly even noticable but it is there, and they aquire fingerprints and stick marks much quicker than traditional cymbals.

[Drum Phil]

I'd go for brilliant. It tends to sound a lot brighter. And i like shiney things

[Cocaberry]

I'd get the brilliant finish just because it looks better and I like bright cymbals but all that is personal preference. Get what you want to get.

[r.o.a.r]

okay. thanks for your help.. if you have time, check this video out. :chug: http://youtube.com/watch?v=qDRfAjF3eaY&search=urbandub \m/

[Dhak]

I am looking for a china. I will use it mostly for riding so I am thinking something around 18" or so but I am not sure. I also like the sound of the Sabian XS china(it's a little bit of a deeper sound) but I want something that has more quality than the XS.

[We_Love_Lime]

I am looking for a china. I will use it mostly for riding so I am thinking something around 18" or so but I am not sure. I also like the sound of the Sabian XS china(it's a little bit of a deeper sound) but I want something that has more quality than the XS.

Sabian XS. 18 inches or so should be like what you want

[Tim]

I am looking for a china. I will use it mostly for riding so I am thinking something around 18" or so but I am not sure. I also like the sound of the Sabian XS china(it's a little bit of a deeper sound) but I want something that has more quality than the XS.

you should go for teh cheaper b8 pro china. man that things a beast. Excellent china cymbal. that b8 is perfect for it. IMO its better than the XS...its also cheaper too.

[styler]

i just noticed something. when people give a described cymbal. they usually only list certain cymbals. no matter what the description, even if it doesnt match it :(

[DruMMeR_BoY14]

^^ ok that really didn't make any sense at all.

Dhak, check out the pro sonix china, its a real beauty, nice trahy sound, great for riding.

[saars]

I'm also looking for a china that is not too dark (like the wuhans are) and something that I can ride on (like dhak said). Also, I don't like something that's uber trashy (like the wuhans), but I want something that gives a good "khaaahhh" and doesn't have that much overtones. I'm open any brand cymbal.

[TTTSNB]

^^^^ Go for traditional, I have almost all brilliants and I'm regretting it, so much harder to keep clean, and I look the look of traditional more now too... :(

[Bloodlust]

hey guys, im looking for a ride that has a good bell, and is kind of washy, almost even crashable maybe, but i want that nice pingy bell.

[THISisAARON]

hi, im looking for a ride that is crashable and will sound good for classic psychedelic rock. I want a ride with a similar sound to mitch mitchell's. I would prefer zildjian but I am open to any brand.

[Seafroggys]

excellent choice in drummer, mitchell is perhaps one of my biggest influences

An A ride, probably 20" Medium though I did read somewhere that at one time he used a crash/ride for his ride.

[Tim]

hey guys, im looking for a ride that has a good bell, and is kind of washy, almost even crashable maybe, but i want that nice pingy bell.

AA medium ride
AAX stage ride
A medium
A sweet ride

[DruMMeR_BoY14]

A ping rides have a good amount of wash and an edge that really opens up, but still have some nice articulation and one hell of a bell.

[Chester]

hi, im looking for a ride that is crashable and will sound good for classic psychedelic rock. I want a ride with a similar sound to mitch mitchell's. I would prefer zildjian but I am open to any brand.
I dont know the drumemr you are talking about, but the 21" A sweet ride is a good crash/ride type of cymbal along with the 20" AAX stage ride... erm kinda the same thing Tim said for someone else

[Chris]

I dont know the drumemr you are talking about, but the 21" A sweet ride is a good crash/ride type of cymbal along with the 20" AAX stage ride... erm kinda the same thing Tim said for someone else

He played with for Mr J Hendrix.

[VTDS_xx]

I'm thinking about a 17" AA Metal-X crash to replace my cracked B8. I'm thinking about getting this one cause I play metal and they are loud and seem durable. I played a 16" at the GC and thought a 17" would be better for me. I have a 15" AAXplosion already so I think this one would compliment it well. Any other suggestions?

[Seafroggys]

I dont know the drumemr you are talking about, but the 21" A sweet ride is a good crash/ride type of cymbal along with the 20" AAX stage ride... erm kinda the same thing Tim said for someone else

you don't know Mitch MItchell? Jesus, one of the greatest players ever. Pretty much founded the fusion drumming style.