*** The Cymbal Finder ***

[DespisedIcon689]

lol....maybe he does

[Murd_666]

I want a ride with some great stick definition, like the the ride Danny carrey uses, not that sound just that stick definition, you know that very pingy sound with that cutting bell, except I want it not too be Paiste, cause there too expensive

[Seafroggys]

Zildjian A Ping RIde maybe?

[Iskandar]

A Rock Ride would be brighter and more like Carey's.

[Cripple]

Sorry for posting again so soon, I am looking for a high-quality bright crash. The cymbal will be used mainly for rock. Preferably not above $200

[full collapse]

I'm considering this cymbal set up. Tell me what you think...

Zildjian A 14" Mastersound Hi-hats or New Beats
Zildjian A 22" Ping Ride
Zildjian A 21" Sweet Ride
Sabian 18" and 20" HHX Stage Crashes

[Tim]

Zildjian A 14" New Beats
Zildjian A 22" Ping Ride
Zildjian A 21" Sweet Ride
Sabian 18" and 20" HHX Stage Crashes


sounds great to me. those HHX stage crashes are awesome.

[Bowler]

Ok...whats the main difference between AA, AAX and AAXtreme Chinas? I know the AA and AAX are the same price but I'm wondering about how they sound.

I've to be fast aswell cause I wana order 1 for xmas!!

[Tim]

cant go wrong with either one. I own the AA chinese in 18inch traditional finish and its amazing. played the AAXtreme too. cant go wrong with either.

[Daven]

well, if your unsure, check out the 20" AA Medium Ride. if its too bright or too pingy, or too washy, we can take it from there

Thanks for the help man, I'll check them out. :thumb:

[bobby__johnny]

Ok...whats the main difference between AA, AAX and AAXtreme Chinas? I know the AA and AAX are the same price but I'm wondering about how they sound.

I've to be fast aswell cause I wana order 1 for xmas!!

by all description, the AAX should be tighter and more direct. the AA is the all around model...have a 16" myself

the AAXtreme, is a more trash kinda Chinese. very tight, but lacks the normal sizing. of course, you could always custom size the one you want...but that takes a while

[Bowler]

Thanks, I'd say i'll go with the AAX alright, good stuff!

[Drum Phil]

Im wanting a new crash so i'll let you guys help.

Its gonna be custom sized so it'll be 22". What crash would work well at this size? Its gotta be sabian and its gotta be bright and cutting. Im thinking vault or something from the AAX line.

Cheers guys

[Brokensticks]

A AAX Stage Crash.

[Chester]

Im wanting a new crash so i'll let you guys help.

Its gonna be custom sized so it'll be 22". What crash would work well at this size? Its gotta be sabian and its gotta be bright and cutting. Im thinking vault or something from the AAX line.

Cheers guys
haha wow, that would be a hell of a crash... 22"

[Cripple]

Sorry for posting again so soon, I am looking for a high-quality bright crash. The cymbal will be used mainly for rock. Preferably not above $200

bump

[Drum Phil]

AAXplosion? Max of $150 for that

Sabian Vault? $166 max.

Zildjian Avedis? $199 max.

[Dummer'n'Drummer]

Ok so, I'm looking for a Ride....

I hate it when their washy, I hate it when their raw and full of over/undertones....

I'm looking for decent cutting, very bright, good stick definition from Sabian and not too pricey.... 250$ CAD MAX!

[Chester]

Ok so, I'm looking for a Ride....

I hate it when their washy, I hate it when their raw and full of over/undertones....

I'm looking for decent cutting, very bright, good stick definition from Sabian and not too pricey.... 250$ CAD MAX!

im horrible at giving suggestions based on descriptions, but maybe an AA rock ride, not washy. i love that ride. it is like $168 or something american dollars on massmusic.net

[Brokensticks]

im looking for a second crash to compliment my 16" AAX stage crash, dont care what brand or nething. i asked this a little while ago, but noone directly answered me or gave me suggestions.

18" AAX Stage Crash, I'm gona have a 16" and a 18" in my near future ( I hope)

[Chester]

^^ yea, thnx, il definately look at it, i want to try a 18" AA medium crash, maybe a med thin too, i dont know.

hmm i was hoping to get to a drum store that had some sabian cymbals bfore christmas, but every time i ask my dad hes like later haha. so i guess i wont be getting any new cymbals for christmas.

[slash_bmxer09]

Hey,
I'm looking for a new ride. Something that will play music from Van Halen, to Nirvana, to Led Zeppelin. Classic rock, to light metal. I have up to $200 to spend (yes I know its low). Also, I'd like it to be 20"-22". No smaller or bigger, ONLY if possible. Thanks.

[Dummer'n'Drummer]

So can anyone help me with my ride?

[Drum Phil]

Ok so, I'm looking for a Ride....

I hate it when their washy, I hate it when their raw and full of over/undertones....

I'm looking for decent cutting, very bright, good stick definition from Sabian and not too pricey.... 250$ CAD MAX!

HH Rock ride. Not so sure how much it is in CAD though

[Bowler]

Does any1 no if this cymbal is any good, its a stagg 18" china, i know the stand is crap but its the cymbal I'm interested in!


http://cgi.ebay.ie/China-cymbal-18-and-double-braced-boom-stand-NO-RES_W0QQitemZ7375361850QQcategoryZ10174QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem

[Drum Phil]

I have it and its pretty good for a budget cymbal

[little_drummer_boy1]

i have three questions and one is kind rediculas so if you dont answer, ill understand

1.hihats between paragon and z custom

2.mini china between aa mini china and aax mini china (hh mini china?)

3.(the rediculas one) set of studio type cymbals, spare no expense

[Brokensticks]

i have three questions and one is kind rediculas so if you dont answer, ill understand

1.hihats between paragon and z custom

2.mini china between aa mini china and aax mini china (hh mini china?)

3.(the rediculas one) set of studio type cymbals, spare no expense

What are we supposed to answer??

[HeLLmO]

i have three questions and one is kind rediculas so if you dont answer, ill understand

1.hihats between paragon and z custom

2.mini china between aa mini china and aax mini china (hh mini china?)

3.(the rediculas one) set of studio type cymbals, spare no expense
1. paragon
2. i like AA mini china, but if they make HH(i can't remember) u might wanna go with that
3. if u want studio type, like atually like for example AAX studio crash, go AAX, HH or HHX

[HeLLmO]

Hey,
I'm looking for a new ride. Something that will play music from Van Halen, to Nirvana, to Led Zeppelin. Classic rock, to light metal. I have up to $200 to spend (yes I know its low). Also, I'd like it to be 20"-22". No smaller or bigger, ONLY if possible. Thanks.

Sabian 21'' AAX Stage Ride might be good, go to www.massmusic.com i'm pretty sure it is like 185 US there

[HeLLmO]

AAXplosion? Max of $150 for that

Sabian Vault? $166 max.

Zildjian Avedis? $199 max.

sabian vault all the way

[Drum Phil]

I didnt ask the question, i gave the answer

[Brokensticks]

I was gona say that too but if I was wrong i'd like like an idiot.

[little_drummer_boy1]

what are some hihats heavier than paragon lighter than z custom?

[Brokensticks]

I'd say if you want versitile hats go for the AAX Stage hats or New Beats.

[Chester]

I didnt ask the question, i gave the answer
hahaha...





^^ yea cant go wrong with those AAX stage hats

[HeLLmO]

I was gona say that too but if I was wrong i'd like like an idiot.

true, but maybe i was cheering because sabian vaults kick soo much ***

[bobby__johnny]

I'd say if you want versitile hats go for the AAX Stage hats or New Beats.

word. Stage hats pwn

[chewaz]

22" HH heavy ride or 22" AA Rock ridE? for rock, jazz, blues and some funk

[bobby__johnny]

the HH Heavy Ride for sure.

[chewaz]

and beetween the aax-xcelerator 14" and the HH fusion 14"? (rock, jazz, blues and some funk, in that order)

[Retarded Chipple]

Looking for a new ride! I want something clean and crisp, not too washy, bright or with major big build up or long decay. At home I play anything from jazz to metal and hip hop to punk. In my band, we play art-grunge/punk so I'd want something relativly versatile. The AAX Stage ride seems to fit but I only heard it from the recording on the Sabian website. There are no good shops round here for me to try stuff out so I'll have to order off the net. Anyone have any suggestions? Thanks.

[Brokensticks]

word. Stage hats pwn

Thank-you very much kind sir :thumb:

I saw some 14" AAX Stage Hats under the parents bed.... Get to open em up tomorrow!!!!!!

[Brokensticks]

Looking for a new ride! I want something clean and crisp and not too washy or bright. At home I play anything from jazz to metal and hip hop to punk. In my band, we play art-grunge/punk so I'd want something relativly versatile. The AAX Stage ride seems to fit but I only heard it from the recording on the Sabian website. There are no good shops round here for me to try stuff out so I'll have to order off the net. Anyone have any suggestions? Thanks.
I have tried the AAX Stage ride. It is a great ride and not too bad for crashing either. I asked for it for x-mas and I saw it under the parents bed the other day so I get to see it tomorrow :thumb: Cant go wrong with Sabian AAX Stage Cymbals!

[little_drummer_boy1]

what are some hihats heavier than paragon lighter than z custom?
???

[3_times_round]

I've never heard Paragon. but I'm gonna say A Custom Projection or possible a K/Z or A/Z combo (Z on bottom)

[boss]

groove hats pwn too

[bene]

ok need a bit of help got some money £100-120 and an looking for a 16" crash if possible sabian to go with my existing 18" AAX dark crash for rock with a bit of metal intent in there as well

was thinking about maby AA's or if i do a bit more work going for somthing hand hammered, would it be worth the exta money

cheers

[Retarded Chipple]

Ok, I've been listening to the MP3 samples on the companys websites all day and have narrowed it down to this as a potential new cymbal setup. I know its really all down to personal preference and opinion but I was interested in other peoples point of view. Do you think the choices would compliment eachother, go with my bands music (some weird art-grunge genre), have any other suggestions etc?


20" Paiste 2002 Heavy Ride
14" Paiste Alpha Power Hats
16" Sabian AAXplosion Crash
18" Sabian AAXplosion Crash

Maybe a few months down the line I'll look into adding a splash and china, almost certainly Wuhan. Thanks guys.

[LostRythym]

Looking for a new ride. Something with a less resonant bow, but enough to cut through the music (like The Darkness and Led Zep kinda music) and a loud and pingy(is that the word?) bell. Anything except the Sabian 21" handhammered Raw Bell Dry ride cause its not available in singapore.

I have in mind a sound like the bow of the Sabian 22" Paragon Ride and the bell of the Sabian AAX 20" Stage Ride. Thanks.

[Tim]

stage rides have almost no bell. you should look into the AA rock or heavy ride maybe even the tight or dry rides

[Chris]

Looking for a new ride. Something with a less resonant bow, but enough to cut through the music (like The Darkness and Led Zep kinda music) and a loud and pingy(is that the word?) bell. Anything except the Sabian 21" handhammered Raw Bell Dry ride cause its not available in singapore.

I have in mind a sound like the bow of the Sabian 22" Paragon Ride and the bell of the Sabian AAX 20" Stage Ride. Thanks.


If it dosnt have to be a Sabian, then look into one of these:

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=425308

And for sound, here: http://www.myspace.com/thesingletons , go through the songs as i used it on each song so it will give you a good idea of what it is like.

[Phototropic]

I got 2 zildjian A customs, what are your views on them?!

[Chris]

I got 2 zildjian A customs, what are your views on them?!

What are they? Crash's, rides?

Im a huge fan of the crash's, but hate the rides.

[Phototropic]

18 " and a 16 " crash

What rides would you recommend to go with them?!

I have a 20" solar ride, and I'm told their frowned upon, I have no experience with others :p

[Chris]

I like solar rides, they are nice and pingy, but im just strange.

Well what sound you after on a ride? A pingy sound, one with loads of wash?

[Phototropic]

I duno :eek: what sounds are available?

[Brokensticks]

I duno :eek: what sounds are available?
If you do not know about sounds I think you'll be fine witht he ride you already have or could use your crash as a ride.

[Chester]

so u want a new ride because u heard other ppl said its bad it sounds like... what do you think? i mean sure its a low budget cymbal, but do you want to rush into buying a ride if you can live with it now?

[Seafroggys]

if you have no idea on what ride to get, just get some new beats

[Brokensticks]

if you have no idea on what ride to get, just get some new beats
:lol: you are such a whore!

[Iskandar]

if you have no idea on what ride to get, just get some new beats
:cool:
Already did.

[Seafroggys]

i worship thee

[Chester]

if you have no idea on what ride to get, just get some new beats
hahahaha wow...

[Phototropic]

Sooo...I just tried my new 16" crash with the old 18" crash, the only difference between them is the 16" crash has Projection crash written on it and the other doesnt....and the new one sounds crap!!! its like banging on a radiator :(

Where have I gone wrong?!

[CasB]

You got zildjians, that's the first mistake :p

j/k I just don't like zils. Hmm what serie is the 18"?

[thatdrummerguy]

You didnt try it before it you bought it didnt you.

[White]

Ok, heres my situation right now, and I need help. Ok I currently have a Mapex M series, Kit, With One Zilco Ride/crash, No hi ahts or anytihng just that for a cymbal (I jsut bought the set) and Im wondeirng weather I should save for months to buy a Custom K Dark Crash, and A Sabian Neil PeartParagon Ride, and New Beats or Just buy a ZBT pack (Or B8 probably the B8s) and then just start saving after that? caues if I boguht a cheap beginners pack, Id have somthing to play on, if I saved up, Id ahve better cymbals quicker, but it would be a LONG time before I got those cymbals, and until then Id have nothing to play with. What do I do???????

[Seafroggys]

Get the New Beats....

frankly if you needed something to play on, buy cymbal pads or cheap *** brass cymbals. Ask around, you can probably get these for free from somebody.

But get the New Beats

[ludvista29]

if you have no idea on what ride to get, just get some new beats
i just got them fer xmas :thumb:

[Iskandar]

i worship thee
Don't worship me, worship my NEW BEATS.

:cool:

Literally, they are "new" and I can play "beats" with them. What an apt name.

[ludvista29]

ha ha

[Brokensticks]

Don't worship me, worship my NEW BEATS.

:cool:

Literally, they are "new" and I can play "beats" with them. What an apt name.
Hence the name ;)

[Headless Jackyl]

I'm looking to buy a whole new line of cymbals. I'm on no budget so don't worry, the cymbals I want are

14" Hi-Hats

20" or 21" Ride

10" Splash

18" or 20" China

16" Crash

18" Crash

I want to find some with the best sounds at the best price. :D thanks for all your help. (links to websites wouldn't hurt) thanks again. :D

[Brokensticks]

I'm looking to buy a whole new line of cymbals. I'm on no budget so don't worry, the cymbals I want are

14" Hi-Hats

20" or 21" Ride

10" Splash

18" or 20" China

16" Crash

18" Crash

I want to find some with the best sounds at the best price. :D thanks for all your help. (links to websites wouldn't hurt) thanks again. :D
Look into the AAX Stage pack it's all good stuff in there!

[Headless Jackyl]

Look into the AAX Stage pack it's all good stuff in there!


Awesome. Thanks. What Zildjians would you say are of the same caliber as the AAX?

[Brokensticks]

I don't know I don't buy Zildjian but those AAX's everything in that pack is great! The hats are to die for and very versitile

[Headless Jackyl]

I don't know I don't buy Zildjian but those AAX's everything in that pack is great! The hats are to die for and very versitile

ok awesome, I'll look into some Sabian For a change. I'm using Meinl Byzance at the time they are great but I'm not fully satisfied, so I'm looking for better quality/sound. :wave:

[Cocaberry]

Awesome. Thanks. What Zildjians would you say are of the same caliber as the AAX?

Zildjian A Customs maybe. I'm not 100% sure on that though.

[Brokensticks]

Zildjian A Customs maybe. I'm not 100% sure on that though.

That what I was thinking also. But the AAX Hats and ride and crashes are all just great!

[Headless Jackyl]

Zildjian A Customs maybe. I'm not 100% sure on that though.

I have played A Customs and they were great but I must check out the AAX's. :D Thanks guys. :chug:

That what I was thinking also. But the AAX Hats and ride and crashes are all just great!

[Brokensticks]

I have played A Customs and they were great but I must check out the AAX's. :D Thanks guys. :chug:

Try out the AAX Stage cymbals.

[Cocaberry]

Try out the AAX Stage cymbals.
Definitely. I have the AAX stage hats 14" brilliant and stage ride 20" brilliant and they are awesome.

[Brokensticks]

Definitely. I have the AAX stage hats 14" brilliant and stage ride 20" brilliant and they are awesome.

Yah i can't get enough of the hats,.

[Headless Jackyl]

What would be the best set-ups for

14" Hi-hats
10" Splash
16" and two 18" Crash's
20 or 21" Ride
18 or 20 China

in AAX:

in A Custom:

in Z Custom:

in A & Z Custom: (between the both of them)

which would be the best cymbals.

[Brokensticks]

AAX

14" AAX Stage Hats
16 and 18" AAX Stage Crashes
20" AAX Stage Ride
17" AAXtreme China
10" AA Splash

[Headless Jackyl]

AAX

14" AAX Stage Hats
16 and 18" AAX Stage Crashes
20" AAX Stage Ride
17" AAXtreme China
10" AA Splash

you're really the sabian man. :thumb: Awesome. :D

[Tim]

AAX

14" AAX Stage Hats
16" AAX stage crash 18"AA medium thin crash
21" AA rock ride
18" AA chinese
10" AA Splash

fix'd

[gErg]

any one know of a quick, trashy, high pitched, zildjian china?




i have zbt's :-/

[UndeservingRighteousness]

i'm looking for a good crash cymbal..... no splash sound, good for punk and alternative rock..... good quality....loud

[Iskandar]

any one know of a quick, trashy, high pitched, zildjian china?




i have zbt's :-/
16" Oriental China Trash.

[Tang.]

What do you guys think about paiste crashes?

[grantpa80]

i want a crash that makes short crashes (doesnt ring like a ride) more of a rock/metal sound. i have zyldjian ZXT series crash,ride and hi-hats but not totally happy

[3_times_round]

What would be the best set-ups for

14" Hi-hats
10" Splash
16" and two 18" Crash's
20 or 21" Ride
18 or 20 China

in AAX:

in A Custom:

in Z Custom:

in A & Z Custom: (between the both of them)

which would be the best cymbals.

A Custom-

14" A custom Mastersound hats
10" A custom Splash
16" A custom Crash
18" A custom Crash
18" A custom Medium crash
22" A Custom Ping Ride (it's an amazing ride)
18" A Custom China

i want a crash that makes short crashes (doesnt ring like a ride) more of a rock/metal sound. i have zyldjian ZXT series crash,ride and hi-hats but not totally happy

17" A Custom Crash.

i'm looking for a good crash cymbal..... no splash sound, good for punk and alternative rock..... good quality....loud

See above.

[TTTSNB]

What would be the best set-ups for

14" Hi-hats
10" Splash
16" and two 18" Crash's
20 or 21" Ride
18 or 20 China

in AAX:

in A Custom:

in Z Custom:

in A & Z Custom: (between the both of them)

which would be the best cymbals.

AAX 14" Stage Hats
AAX 10" Splash
AAX 16" AAXplosion Crash
AAX 18" Stage Crash
AAX 18" Dark Crash
AAX 21" Metal Ride
AAX 18" CHina

A Custom 14" Hats
A Custom 10" Splash
A Custom 16" Medium Crash
A Custom 18" Projection Crash
A Custom 18" Crash
A Custom 22" Ping Ride (Stay away from A Custom Rides though)

Z Custom 14" Hats
Z Custom 12" Splash (they don't make anythng smaller)
Z Custom 16" Medium Crash
Z Custom 18" Medium Crash
Z Custom 18" Projection Crash
Z Custom 21" Megabell Ride
Z Custom 20" China
(stay away from this whole range though, other than the rides and maybe the chinas)

[full collapse]

I'm having trouble decieding between the 22" K Heavy ride and the 22" K Custom ride, which of these do you think is more versatile and would complement 14" A New Beats or Mastersounds the best? Also, any information you could tell me with your own experience with these cymbals is welcome and appreciated.

[Tim]

the K heavy would be more versatile. Its heavier than the K custom.

[Tom]

anyone know the cymbal gigner baker (from cream) uses. they have the little things dangling through them around the edge

[Drum Phil]

Sizzle? Swish knocker?

[eisle89]

i want a crash that makes short crashes (doesnt ring like a ride) more of a rock/metal sound. i have zyldjian ZXT series crash,ride and hi-hats but not totally happy

AAXplosion

[Tim]

i want a crash that makes short crashes (doesnt ring like a ride) more of a rock/metal sound. i have zyldjian ZXT series crash,ride and hi-hats but not totally happy

17' AAX stage crash

[DaleCrover1]

the K heavy would be more versatile. Its heavier than the K custom.Speaking of the K Heavy, what is the Sabian equivalent to that cymbal?? The HH Rock Ride or the HH Heavy Ride??

Oh, and what finish do the HHX crashes come in?? They don't have a choice between brilliant and traditional on massmusic, and I'm thinking they're probably traditional... but I wanna make sure so that other cymbals I order match up.

[Tim]

I beleive HHX are just traditional. K equivalent would probably be the HH heavy

[Chester]

lol... i love how zildjian and sabian cymbals have like the exact matched cymbal as the other company.
of course we all know thats "no coinsidence".

[Plan B.]

They come in both, but for the love of tits get trad.

[DaleCrover1]

They come in both, but for the love of tits get trad.I definitely want trad, massmusic just doesnt have the option. Which makes me wonder.

[Plan B.]

Launch and email-rocket from your house to their command center with a question enclosed and hope they fire one back.

[Chester]

ooh to the thing above
AA/AAX:
14" AAX stage hats
16" AAX stage crash
18" AA med crash
21" AA rock ride
10" AA splash
18" AA-or-AAX china

A (custom):
14" a custom hats
16" and 18" a custom crash
20-22" ping ride
10" A (avedis) splash (i like it better than the A custom one)
18" oriental trash china (so what if its not an A or A custom technically)

Z custom:
no...

[Murd_666]

How about
14" AAX Stage Hi-Hats
10" AA Splash
16" AAX Plosion Crash
18" AAX Stage Crash
18" AA Medium Crash
20" AA Medium Ride
18" HHX Chinese

[oliv_da_skinmasher]

What do you guys think about paiste crashes?

I've only used a few 2002's but they were amazing, i've also heard great things from other people about all Paiste crashes

[Chris]

Im looking for a china. I want it to be small, with a trashy 'cup' sound to it. Will a Sabian AA 10'' China Splash be any good? Or if not i was looking at a UFIP Class 10'' China Splash.

[-The-Red-Chord-]

Im looking for a good splash...i want something fast and bright. I was looking at Zildjian A Custom Splash and Sabian AAX Splash. Which would be better.

And also is the Zildjian K Custom Dark Crash 18" good?

[CasB]

Im looking for a good splash...i want something fast and bright. I was looking at Zildjian A Custom Splash and Sabian AAX Splash. Which would be better.

And also is the Zildjian K Custom Dark Crash 18" good?

Listen first, open wallet later.

[Plan B.]

Let me just say Paistes are THE cream of the cymbal crop.

Over and out.

[Tim]

Im looking for a good splash...i want something fast and bright. I was looking at Zildjian A Custom Splash and Sabian AAX Splash. Which would be better.

And also is the Zildjian K Custom Dark Crash 18" good?

K custom dark crash is good. as for splash i dont really like the AAX's, but the AA's are awesome. Look into some of those.

[fullmetalhaallee]

One of my great friends needs some help, so Ill let you guys do the honors. He is looking for some new pro hi hats. he likes thin hats that are light and bright. Any ideas? thanks a lot.

[Cocaberry]

AAX Studio hats maybe?

[Iskandar]

Let me just say Paistes are THE cream of the cymbal crop.

Over and out.
But you've got a K avatar.

Odd...

[-The-Red-Chord-]

AA Metal X or AAX Stage?

[Brokensticks]

One of my great friends needs some help, so Ill let you guys do the honors. He is looking for some new pro hi hats. he likes thin hats that are light and bright. Any ideas? thanks a lot.

try the AAX Stage hats and the Studio hats, the Studio ones will be lighter than the stage hats but the stage hats are great all around and very versatile.

[Tim]

AA Metal X or AAX Stage?

stage

[Cocaberry]

AA Metal X or AAX Stage?

Definitely AAX Stage.

EDIT-Made a typo. Oops. :thumb:

[-The-Red-Chord-]

Definitely Stage hats.

I meant crash ride and hats.

I think im going witht he stage either way though lol.

Thnx.

[fullmetalhaallee]

awesome, thanks a lot guys!!

[-HellsKitchen-]

For christmas i Got an AAX stage pack including 14" hats, 16" crash and 20" ride. Also i got a Sabian AAX 8" splash and a 16" AA china. Im looking for some advice on another crash that might blend we'll with the 16" stage crash. What do you guys think of HHXplosion and larger AAX stage crashes?

[-TheGlassPrison-]

18" AAX Stage.

[full collapse]

Looking for a 21" or 22" inch ride that has a strong loud solid bell, good amount of ping with some amount of wash. Needs to be versatile but, leans more towards heavier types of music and some hi-hats that would complement it. Any brand. Price isn't an option.

I have been looking at the 22" K Heavy and 22" K Custom, the K has the ping I want and the K Custom has more of the bell I want. Hahaha, any suggestions on something in between the two?

[Tim]

For christmas i Got an AAX stage pack including 14" hats, 16" crash and 20" ride. Also i got a Sabian AAX 8" splash and a 16" AA china. Im looking for some advice on another crash that might blend we'll with the 16" stage crash. What do you guys think of HHXplosion and larger AAX stage crashes?

18inch AAX stage, 18inch AAXplosion, 18inch AA medium thin, 18 inch AA medium.

[-HellsKitchen-]

Thanks!

[Brokensticks]

For christmas i Got an AAX stage pack including 14" hats, 16" crash and 20" ride. Also i got a Sabian AAX 8" splash and a 16" AA china. Im looking for some advice on another crash that might blend we'll with the 16" stage crash. What do you guys think of HHXplosion and larger AAX stage crashes?

I got the pack also and a 18" AAX Stage crash they go very well together.

[Chris]

What do you look think of the Sabian HH Bright Hats?

[VTDS_xx]

^Good hats. Heard/saw them being played live and they sounded great!

[Chris]

^^^

Quite funny, I brought them as Wembley didn't have new beats. And can't make my mind up if to get the new beats or not.

[bobby__johnny]

Looking for a 21" or 22" inch ride that has a strong loud solid bell, good amount of ping with some amount of wash. Needs to be versatile but, leans more towards heavier types of music and some hi-hats that would complement it. Any brand. Price isn't an option.

I have been looking at the 22" K Heavy and 22" K Custom, the K has the ping I want and the K Custom has more of the bell I want. Hahaha, any suggestions on something in between the two?

take a look at the HHX Power Ride...as for the hats, never go wrong with HHX Groove hats

[Eikon]

Looking into getting a new china. I've narrowed it down to a Zildjian Oriental "Trash", But I don't know what size I should get. Any help would be nice.

By the way, I play mostly rock and progressive rock, and some metal.

[Iskandar]

Looking into getting a new china. I've narrowed it down to a Zildjian Oriental "Trash", But I don't know what size I should get. Any help would be nice.

By the way, I play mostly rock and progressive rock, and some metal.
Hmm ... 18" perhaps.

[terry_bozzio_wanna_be]

i am looking for hihats with clean cutting response and tight, crisp definition

and hihats with a very clear stick definition, with virtually no wash

[full collapse]

take a look at the HHX Power Ride...as for the hats, never go wrong with HHX Groove hats

It's a fairly nice ride for what I am looking for, it only comes in 20" though, I don't think it will project as much as I need it to.

And a new question, watch this video (http://www6.islandrecords.com/thursdaystudio/media.php#) (in the studio) and at 35 seconds when their drummer starts playing can any of you tell what hi-hats and crash he was playing, the crash was an A Custom crash of some sort and the hi-hats were Zildjian as well, but can any of you tell what model they are? Thanks.

[[Fonya]]

What would be the Sabian equilvilent of the K Custom Ride?

[Tim]

What would be the Sabian equilvilent of the K Custom Ride?

either the HH leopard ride or the HH medium heavy ride.

[Iskandar]

What would be the Sabian equilvilent of the K Custom Ride?
Do you like the K Custom Ride? If so, buy it.

[Jublian]

would it be worth it buying a 18" s series (wuhan) crash/ ride or crash???

[chewaz]

HHX groove hats? really groovie?

[[Fonya]]

either the HH leopard ride or the HH medium heavy ride.

Thanks man.

[[Fonya]]

Do you like the K Custom Ride? If so, buy it.

I do but Sabians are cheaper in Canada so if I can find a Sabian first, I would go with that.

[Quinto]

i was thinking of buying a new ride, dry but not too dry with lots of stickdef that u can crash and has a big bell

[Tim]

i was thinking of buying a new ride, dry but not too dry with lots of stickdef that u can crash and has a big bell

Sabian Hand Hammered Classic Ride. or the Hand Hammered Medium Ride. you can try the AAX stage ride but thats not really dry and doesnt really have a bell to it that is big.

[MapleX]

i was thinking of buying a new ride, dry but not too dry with lots of stickdef that u can crash and has a big bell

Paiste do rides like that. I thought the 2002 series do nice warm sounding rides. http://www.paiste.com/products/cymbals/2002_rides.php
Possibly the Rock ride at the bottom. Check the sound samples

[Quinto]

ty i liked the full ride alot, and once i dont owe my dad $200 i think ill buy it

[CasB]

would it be worth it buying a 18" s series (wuhan) crash/ ride or crash???

Yes...but don't just order or buy "some 18" wuhan crash", listen to it first. Every wuhan cymbal sounds completely different.

[MapleX]

Every wuhan cymbal sounds completely different.

Every handmade cymbal in general sounds different :)

[shadow_stalker]

Oh my god i think i am in love, today i went to a music shop and heard someone playing on some 14" Sabian AA Studio hats and it was like god was speaking to me...only in hi-hat form

[Seafroggys]

Oh my god i think i am in love, today i went to a music shop and heard someone playing on some 14" Sabian AA Studio hats and it was like god was speaking to me...only in hi-hat form

no you damn infindel sinner! you are speaking to the wrong god!

[Cocaberry]

Yeah. ^^ Hes Right.

Sabian 14" stage hats are better.

[alexi2]

Anyone knows what Zildjian Ride cymbal Dave Weckl uses in his video: The next step?

Sounds so great.

[CasB]

Yeah. ^^ Hes Right.

Sabian 14" stage hats are better.

Bullsh*t, with higher end cymbals, one cymbal isn't better than the other, cause it's all a matter of preference.

[HendrixDoorsWhoZeppelin]

Bullsh*t, with higher end cymbals, one cymbal isn't better than the other, cause it's all a matter of preference.

Yeah but most peoples' preferences are based on how much better one cymbal is over another

[bobby__johnny]

but thats the ears that tell you what is better. quality wise, everything is equal

[Seafroggys]

Bullsh*t, with higher end cymbals, one cymbal isn't better than the other, cause it's all a matter of preference.

you are wrong....

all professional hi-hats < New Beats

[Brokensticks]

Yeah. ^^ Hes Right.

Sabian 14" stage hats are better.

I love mine so much.

[full collapse]

Not really looking for cymbals, just some opinions.
Which do you guys think would make the best hi-hat and ride combination for very dynamic rock playing? Meaning playing moderately soft to loud volumes. I'm looking for cymbals that can cut through loud music, but are not over powering during the softer parts.

14" K Mastersound
14" A Mastersounds
22" K Custom Ride
22" A Ping Ride
22" A Medium ride

All opinions are more then welcome. Thanks...

[Seafroggys]

^^^for your hi-hats. definitally New Beats

[full collapse]

Thanks, but no thanks. New beats are indeed great, but not what I am looking for. What do you think about the two hi-hats I did have up there?

[pearlmark]

i want to get high end sabians, probably aax's, but i wont have the budget to individually select them. I havnt really listened to any of them but do you think the stage pack would be worth it??

[Brokensticks]

i want to get high end sabians, probably aax's, but i wont have the budget to individually select them. I havnt really listened to any of them but do you think the stage pack would be worth it??
I have it and I must say everything in it is great, once you play the hats you will fall in love.

[chewaz]

22" AA medium ride? too washy?

[Brokensticks]

22" AA medium ride? too washy?
That actually is a very good ride. Go try it out

[chewaz]

That actually is a very good ride. Go try it out

i think i'll buy the pack in musicianfriends (hats, crash,ride and splash) then sell the 20" ride and buy a 22" ride :O:chug:

[Tim]

22" AA medium ride? too washy?

nah not really. Its a good versatile ride. Try it out. The bell on that ride though is pretty nice.

[Aaron]

I'm in love with K Hats, but want lower pitched hats, but not dark, should i go 15" K Hats?

[Bryan Blakey]

I'm in love with K Hats, but want lower pitched hats, but not dark, should i go 15" K Hats?

yes.

[Jublian]

Yes...but don't just order or buy "some 18" wuhan crash", listen to it first. Every wuhan cymbal sounds completely different.
the problem is, no one around me ( or in Aus to my knolege) stocks wuhan crashes.

and i really wanna get an 18"

[ludvista29]

^ur screwed

[Sticks_of_Fury]

What does everyone think of the HHX Stage Crashes? Going to the shop soon to check them out but just wondering what peoples experiences with them are.

[pdpdrummer88]

I'm on the market for a new ride cymbal. I own a Zildjian A Custom 20" Ping Ride at the moment but I find that it is to washy for my tastes. I really like the Paiste 2002 20" Ride but the bell is underwhelming - its only downside. Any suggestions for a ride that sounds like the 2002 but has a more powerful bell?

Thanks

[chewaz]

22" HH medium ride? too washY?

[Brokensticks]

try it out.

[chewaz]

try it out.
you can get it only by a special order,

[pdpdrummer88]

you can get it only by a special order,

Hmm, well that won't work out. Any other suggestions - primarily Paiste?

[Tim]

try it out.

this is the cymbal thread. post info about it ,stop just tellin people to try it.


22" HH medium ride? too washY?

no it wont be too washy. should be quite versatile too. never have i heard a 22 though. just the 20's.

[chewaz]

this is the cymbal thread. post info about it ,stop just tellin people to try it.




no it wont be too washy. should be quite versatile too. never have i heard a 22 though. just the 20's.

yeah, i decided to go wheather for the AA package (hats, crash, ride and splash) then sell the 20" medium ride (i like big rides) and buy a 22" medium ride OR the HH package (hats, crash, ride) again sell the 20" medium ride and buy a 22" medium ride, i love jazz but i also love rock (zeppelin mostly) i have the idea that HH won't but trough when i'm playing with my band

[Cocaberry]

Its time for me to upgrade my crashes. Heres what I'm working with:

20" AAX Stage Ride (Brilliant finish)
14" AAX Stage Hats (Brilliant finish)
16" and 18" XS20 medium thin crashes (These are what I'm upgrading)

I am pretty sure I want to get some AA Medium crashes in brilliant finish. I need help picking the right combination.

Should I go with 17" and 19"? 16" and 18"? 17" and 18"? 18" and 19"? Its a hard decision. I don't want anything bigger than 19" or smaller than 16".

Also, I am thinking about getting a china. What chinas would you guys suggest for my setup? I was thinking maybe an 18", 19", or 20" china, definitely AA or AAX.

My GCs around here are really ****ty. They don't carry AAs in stock at all cause they say they don't sell good. So I can't hear these AAs in person. GC is about the only place to try-and-buy cymbals around here also. :(

[full collapse]

19" AAXtreme china. The sabian site doesn't do it much justice, though. So, listen to it in person if you can before you make any judgements.

[aznriceball]

id 17" aaxtreme china..contrasts extremely well should u decide to go with a wuhan also

for ur crashes, aaxplosions and stage crashes are great to try out. id go 17" aaxplosion and 19" stage crash (i think they go that size). yeah, GC is an ashwhore when not stocking something. they wont order something for u to try out because 'then u might not buy it' as if no1 else would

with no sabian AAs, why cant u try out any zildjian As?

[Tim]

yeah stupid GC doesnt carry AA they just order them. bastards. anyway as for crashes maybe go 17 medium thin and 18 medium. Both the medium and medium thin AA crashes are good crashes. As for chinas, go with a traditional finish AA chinese in 18 or 20.

[Sticks_of_Fury]

What does everyone think of the HHX Stage Crashes? Going to the shop soon to check them out but just wondering what peoples experiences with them are.



Anyone?

[chewaz]

Anyone?
HHXtreme sound awesome it's like a china-crash, it's explosive and has a quick decay, i really dig them

[Cocaberry]

yeah stupid GC doesnt carry AA they just order them. bastards. anyway as for crashes maybe go 17 medium thin and 18 medium. Both the medium and medium thin AA crashes are good crashes. As for chinas, go with a traditional finish AA chinese in 18 or 20.

I want to go with 2 AA mediums though. What would be two good sizes for the mediums?

Also, how much harder would the mediums be to move than the medium-thins? I won't have to use a lot of forearm to move these right?

[Tim]

no. mediums arent hard to move. when you get into the larger ones like medium heavies n stuff then its a bit harder to get a good crash out of them. as for crash sizes i went with 16, 18 when i got my crashes. I shoudlve went 17, 19. I still like the 16, 18 though.

[Cocaberry]

no. mediums arent hard to move. when you get into the larger ones like medium heavies n stuff then its a bit harder to get a good crash out of them. as for crash sizes i went with 16, 18 when i got my crashes. I shoudlve went 17, 19. I still like the 16, 18 though.

Yeah I think 17 and 19 would be good sizes. My 16" is kinda splashy but maybe thats only an XS20 thing.

Thanks for the help! :thumb:

[Chester]

well i would really want to try out a crash in person before buying it, so its tough to say. Id look at the crashes they have in stock at GC as well just to see what you think of them

[Hammerheart]

Need suggestions for a good dark crash 18 inches and up, right now i have a 16" AAXplosion, 17" A Custom and 18" Pro sonix that has a small crack in it from a retarded friend, so im looking for something dark.

[Tim]

Need suggestions for a good dark crash 18 inches and up, right now i have a 16" AAXplosion, 17" A Custom and 18" Pro sonix that has a small crack in it from a retarded friend, so im looking for something dark.

look at the sabian HHX crashes.

[aznriceball]

I'd say 18" K Custom Dark Crash, 18" K Custom Fast Crash, 20" HHX Stage Crash and 18" HHX Evolution Crash are some to keep in mind

[Hammerheart]

I'd say 18" K Custom Dark Crash, 18" K Custom Fast Crash, 20" HHX Stage Crash and 18" HHX Evolution Crash are some to keep in mind

Thanks.

[TTTSNB]

I want to go with 2 AA mediums though. What would be two good sizes for the mediums?

Also, how much harder would the mediums be to move than the medium-thins? I won't have to use a lot of forearm to move these right?
17" and 19". And nah, mediums are a perfect weight IMO, the only thing I prefer heavier is the ride.

[Brokensticks]

Its time for me to upgrade my crashes. Heres what I'm working with:

20" AAX Stage Ride (Brilliant finish)
14" AAX Stage Hats (Brilliant finish)
16" and 18" XS20 medium thin crashes (These are what I'm upgrading)

I am pretty sure I want to get some AA Medium crashes in brilliant finish. I need help picking the right combination.

Should I go with 17" and 19"? 16" and 18"? 17" and 18"? 18" and 19"? Its a hard decision. I don't want anything bigger than 19" or smaller than 16".

Also, I am thinking about getting a china. What chinas would you guys suggest for my setup? I was thinking maybe an 18", 19", or 20" china, definitely AA or AAX.

My GCs around here are really ****ty. They don't carry AAs in stock at all cause they say they don't sell good. So I can't hear these AAs in person. GC is about the only place to try-and-buy cymbals around here also. :(


We have the same Ride and hats. I have the Stage crashes 18" and 16" They go great together but I wish I checked into the AAXplosions more. I might buy the 17" and 19" so I have 4 crashes one day.

The AA medium crashes are very nice too. They are about the right weight and sound fantastic. the reason they don't sell good is because they dont stock em :p

for the china the 17" AAXtreme china is excellent. If you don't want to spend the money though look into Wuhan.

[Cocaberry]

for the china the 17" AAXtreme china is excellent. If you don't want to spend the money though look into Wuhan.

Well what would be a good Wuhan china? I don't know anything about Wuhan so I really need help in that area.

Also how do the AAXtreme chinas, the AAX chinas, and the AA chinas compare to each other?

[Brokensticks]

Well what would be a good Wuhan china? I don't know anything about Wuhan so I really need help in that area.

Also how do the AAXtreme chinas, the AAX chinas, and the AA chinas compare to each other?

I've never heard a Wuhan china but they get much praise they are a must to try out though because of the hand hammering and individual sounds.

[Jamiem89]

I want a cymbal pack including 14" hats, 16" crash and 18" ride for cheap...about £120 any ideas? thanks xxx :P

[Bullet for My Valentine]

for £120 you could get piaste 101s or sabian solars they are both quite cheap althought the 101s are better.. you would also have enough to say get a 14" crash or 12" splash say.. or you could save up some more for some zildjian Zbts as they are pretty good to start with:thumb: :chug:

[Tim]

Well what would be a good Wuhan china? I don't know anything about Wuhan so I really need help in that area.

Also how do the AAXtreme chinas, the AAX chinas, and the AA chinas compare to each other?


As far as wuhan chinas go i beleive they are made the same way just different sizes.

AS for the AAX chinas.....The AAXtreme chinese will be a bit more fast and not as "trashy" as the reg AAX chinese. the AAXtreme and AAX chinas are different sizes the aaxtreme is 15, 17, 19 and the aax china is 16, 18, 20. Also the AA chinese has slight trashyness to it but still is kinda bright as are the other chinas too. the AA chinese has a decent attack to it. I own the traditional AA chinese in 18inch and i love it. Something to look into. I want to get a 20inch AA to add onto it. I dont know anything about the AA fast chinese other than it will probably have a faster decay than the other chinas.

[Retarded Chipple]

Hey guys, just wondering what your opinions on Paiste 2oo2 Heavy Ride are...

[Massik Kretal]

Does it come in 24"?

[steve_o_69]

a raw heavy powerfull upffront all out dark 18 crash

[ericcantsleep]

How do you guys feel about the Paiste 13'' Mega Cup Chime or the 12'' Flanger Bell

[Iskandar]

How do you guys feel about the Paiste 13'' Mega Cup Chime or the 12'' Flanger Bell
They're cool but do you really need them?

[Murd_666]

I'm looking for a bell effect with a full ping sound, I've already tried the Ice bells and i was not satisfied. Both LP and Sabian ones.

[Loser]

I'm looking for another ride. Currently I have a K custom Dark Ride (20") and I love it, but it's too washy for some situations, and a little too dark for some. I want a ride that is clear, defined, and somewhat bright. If you've heard the bell of an A custom Projection Crash, I want one with a bell somewhat similar to that.

I'd like some names of possible solutions before I head to the shop, because they have hundreds of cymbals there, and I could spend weeks trying every possible way of striking ever cymbal they have, and then they'd get new ones in.

Thanks.

[Tim]

I'm looking for a bell effect with a full ping sound, I've already tried the Ice bells and i was not satisfied. Both LP and Sabian ones.

try the zildjian efx zil bells. those are nice. same with the stagg ones.

[Tim]

I'm looking for another ride. Currently I have a K custom Dark Ride (20") and I love it, but it's too washy for some situations, and a little too dark for some. I want a ride that is clear, defined, and somewhat bright. If you've heard the bell of an A custom Projection Crash, I want one with a bell somewhat similar to that.

I'd like some names of possible solutions before I head to the shop, because they have hundreds of cymbals there, and I could spend weeks trying every possible way of striking ever cymbal they have, and then they'd get new ones in.

Thanks.

not sure if it would match a proj crash bell but try out the A ping rides. not the a custom ones though just the reg A.

[-The-Red-Chord-]

Zildjian A custom fast crash 17" and 18"

or

Sabian Stage (AAX) 16" and 18"??

[styler]

id get the a customs

[Tim]

Zildjian A custom fast crash 17" and 18"

or

Sabian Stage (AAX) 16" and 18"??


Id go with the stage.

[aznriceball]

Zildjian A custom fast crash 17" and 18"

or

Sabian Stage (AAX) 16" and 18"??

if 16 id go stage, but the 17/18 fast crashes total pwn the 17/18 stages

[-The-Red-Chord-]

Thnx alot!

[chewaz]

14"HHX groove hats, 22" groove ride, 10" HHX splash, 16" and 18" HHXtreme crash?? liked it???

[full collapse]

Does the A Custom Mastersounds have a medium-thin top and medium bottom, or medium-thin top and extra heavy bottom?

Because the zildjian website says both.

And i'm looking for a ride that's similar to the 21" A Custom Projection ride, but with a bit brighter and louder bell.

[straycat101]

What is the closest Zildjian/Sabian equivilent to a Wuhan China? if there is such a thing....

[chewaz]

14"HHX groove hats, 22" groove ride, 10" HHX splash, 16" and 18" HHXtreme crash?? liked it???

it's kinda urgent plz :)

[full collapse]

There isn't anything wrong with those cymbals.

[chewaz]

i meat any, reviews or something like that? i want a "ZZZZ" hats, a ride that is not too washy, not as washy as an aax stage, "to make busy ride patterns", and a splash that cuts trough with fast decay?? do they get close to what i meant?

[boss]

do they have it at the store you're looking at?

[aznriceball]

might wanna try u a 22" A ping

some other favs with ur attributes ur describing

21" hh raw bell dry ride
22" k heavy ride


the splash, maybe think about either a 10" wuhan splash or an 8" AA china splash, most likely the china splash

the groove hats are very distinct, ull definitely wanna listen to those on the sites at least if u cant try em out. also suggest 14 k hats, and 13 hhx groove hats

[chewaz]

i don't like zildjians :P, is the 22" K heavy like the 22" HH heavy?, i don't like the raw bell... because everyone has it, is like it's some sort of "the latest fashion cymbal" :P,

[playwithfire]

People like it because it sounds good. If you want to make an "anti-good gear that's common" statement go buy a setup of ZXTs...

Anyway, to whoever mentioned it, I have a 22" A Zildjian Ping ride, and it's a fantastic cymbal. The bell is clear, bright and defined, while the bow is dry, bright and articulate. Fits in a lot of music. I would recommend it to anyone.

[chewaz]

i've tried A ping ride and didn't like it a lot, i found it too ringy, i want something more organic, i think I'll go for the HH heavy 22", and the AAX-xcelerator 14", AA" Splash 10" and 8", but i'm not quite sure about the crashes maybe the HHXtreme or AA medium-thin

[full collapse]

Does the A Custom Mastersounds have a medium-thin top and medium bottom, or medium-thin top and extra heavy bottom?

Because the zildjian website says both.

And i'm looking for a ride that's similar to the 21" A Custom Projection ride, but with a bit brighter and louder bell.

Anybody?

[Tim]

Anybody?


the A custom hi hatsand a custom mastersounds are both medium thin top and medium bottom.the A custom projections are medium top heavy bottom.

[Drum Phil]

Ok im looking for a china between 18 and 22", Dark yet trashy with a decent amount of cut.

I would prefer it to be sabian but zildjian, paiste and ufip are acceptable

[CasB]

How 'bout wuhan?

[ludvista29]

How do you guys feel about the Paiste 13'' Mega Cup Chime or the 12'' Flanger Bell
i tried the flanger it was really cool, u should try it.:thumb:

[Drum Phil]

How 'bout wuhan?

No easy access to wuhan

[Obelisk]

18" crash with a good wash whist "riding", yet bright on single hits. Medium to heavy weight, no pref. on mfg.

Heavier than A Custom, lighter than AA Rock crash.

Thanks!

[Drum Phil]

AAXPlosion?

[full collapse]

21" AA Rock Ride or 22" AA Rock Ride for rock/metal...

I'm kind of leaning towards the 22" because, I kind of want that extra bit of cutting ping, but will it be overpowering durning moderately soft rock parts?
Is it still capable of being a dynamic ride?

22" A ping ride maybe?

[Drum Phil]

22" HH Rock ride :)

[full collapse]

Alright so i've narrowed it down to these.... And I just can not deciede... So i'm just looking for some feedback and opinions...

14'' A Mastersounds and 22" A Ping ride or 21" A Custom Projection ride
14'' AAX Stage hats and 21" or 22" AA Rock Ride
14" HH Fusion hats and 22" or 21" (custom order) HH Rock ride

Remember i'm looking for cymbals to be played in dynamic rock/metal settings.
Thanks soo much.

[ComicalMischief]

I've been looking for a China to get...Bare with me as I don't really know many of these cymbal terms..
But basically, it'll be one for heavy rock, and maybe a little goofing off with soft stuff on the side.
I'm thinkin this'll have to be pretty loud. Nothing too high pitched, so probably something biggish. 17", 18", 19"?

I guess my want in sound is pretty open and broad, so, if anything, you can just point me in a general direction and I'll head down to GC sometime to give a little sound test. :thumb:

[Tim]

I've been looking for a China to get...Bare with me as I don't really know many of these cymbal terms..
But basically, it'll be one for heavy rock, and maybe a little goofing off with soft stuff on the side.
I'm thinkin this'll have to be pretty loud. Nothing too high pitched, so probably something biggish. 17", 18", 19"?

I guess my want in sound is pretty open and broad, so, if anything, you can just point me in a general direction and I'll head down to GC sometime to give a little sound test. :thumb:

GC doesnt carry sabian AA but the AA chinese is a good one. also check the AAXtreeme

[chewaz]

Alright so i've narrowed it down to these.... And I just can not deciede... So i'm just looking for some feedback and opinions...

14'' A Mastersounds and 22" A Ping ride or 21" A Custom Projection ride
14'' AAX Stage hats and 21" or 22" AA Rock Ride
14" HH Fusion hats and 22" or 21" (custom order) HH Rock ride

Remember i'm looking for cymbals to be played in dynamic rock/metal settings.
Thanks soo much.


14" AXX-xcelerator (like a mastersound) and 22" Rock Ride or 21 A custom projection, I tried a 20" AA rock ride brilliant finish and i didn't like it a lot, i though i would, but i this saturday i'm going to try the 21" AA rock ride and the HH raw bell dry ride. :P

[aznriceball]

Alright so i've narrowed it down to these.... And I just can not deciede... So i'm just looking for some feedback and opinions...

14'' A Mastersounds and 22" A Ping ride or 21" A Custom Projection ride
14'' AAX Stage hats and 21" or 22" AA Rock Ride
14" HH Fusion hats and 22" or 21" (custom order) HH Rock ride

Remember i'm looking for cymbals to be played in dynamic rock/metal settings.
Thanks soo much.

the projection has a pretty good bell, but the overall cymbal is really bright and sounds like a dog if u crash it :p id recommend the aa rock ride even though i have the projection. as for hats, i think the stage is the most volumous of the three, and it gets my vote for brightness

[Tim]

mmm AA rock ride. soon to be mine. hopefully.

[Bowler]

Whats the difference between the sabian AAX and the sabian pro sonix 18" chinas?

Im looking for the usual, kinda trashy something that wont ring out to much.

[SpikedCola]

Alright I need a pair of hihats that sound watery when hit open. Kinda like the ones the drummer from Alexisonfire plays, but in Zildjian (He plays sabian, and Ive had nothing but bad experiences with sabian)

[Tim]

Alright I need a pair of hihats that sound watery when hit open. Kinda like the ones the drummer from Alexisonfire plays, but in Zildjian (He plays sabian, and Ive had nothing but bad experiences with sabian)

how do you have a bad experience with sabian? if youre talking about breakage then you will probably have the same problem with zildjian. anyways i have never heard of alexisonfire and the term watery isnt exactly helping either.

[SpikedCola]

The crash I had cracked after about a weeks worth of playing, and the hihats Ive played sounded terrible. That was a few years ago though, so dont ask about the model because its been too long :p So far I havent broken a single zildjian and I beat on them like there's no tomorrow. I dont really know how to describe his hihats, except for watery, and the fact that they sound really smooth, not jagged at all. A clip of the hihats is here (http://www.files.bz/files/745/hihats.mp3)

[chewaz]

The crash I had cracked after about a weeks worth of playing, and the hihats Ive played sounded terrible. That was a few years ago though, so dont ask about the model because its been too long :p So far I havent broken a single zildjian and I beat on them like there's no tomorrow. I dont really know how to describe his hihats, except for watery, and the fact that they sound really smooth, not jagged at all. A clip of the hihats is here (http://www.files.bz/files/745/hihats.mp3)
they're certanly no zildjians hehehehe:smash:

[Tim]

The crash I had cracked after about a weeks worth of playing, and the hihats Ive played sounded terrible. That was a few years ago though, so dont ask about the model because its been too long :p So far I havent broken a single zildjian and I beat on them like there's no tomorrow. I dont really know how to describe his hihats, except for watery, and the fact that they sound really smooth, not jagged at all. A clip of the hihats is here (http://www.files.bz/files/745/hihats.mp3)


cymbals just dont crack....obviously a technique issue especially after a few weeks worth of play. you probably played crappy b8 hats. those are like zbt's.

[Seafroggys]

Alright I need a pair of hihats that sound watery when hit open. Kinda like the ones the drummer from Alexisonfire plays, but in Zildjian (He plays sabian, and Ive had nothing but bad experiences with sabian)

i'm sure New Beats can sound watery