**Rage Against The Machine** [Archive] - Page 9

nowitzki

02-14-2006, 08:34 AM

Did Zack think he'd have a better way to voice his political opinions without one of the biggest Rock bands of our time?

Has anyone heard any "Nightwatchman*" songs? "Until The End" is class.

*Tom Morello alter-ego.
I've heard House Gone Up In Flames. I'm not to sure about Morello's singing, but the song is pretty cool, I like it, quite Dylan-esque.

Stoo

02-14-2006, 08:56 AM

His singing is really good. I have the Axis of Justice CD and it has some of his songs on it.

rata

02-14-2006, 09:24 AM

all Zack did was voicing his politcal opinions and how corrupt the situation is, but it was Tom who did the action more, having involved on such activities than zack...

but dont get me wrong, i love RATM

Darkness

02-14-2006, 05:06 PM

His singing is really good. I have the Axis of Justice CD and it has some of his songs on it.
Yeah, those are great songs. "3 times I shot the shariff, and did not spare the deputy!"

nobodyblossomsforever

02-19-2006, 07:19 PM

Hey, can anyone send me the full song "Know Your Enemy", perhaps on YSI or via IM?

timmySmi

02-20-2006, 09:58 AM

Hey, can anyone send me the full song "Know Your Enemy", perhaps on YSI or via IM?

Get it off limewire or buy the CD it's a great album.
Tim Commerford is the reason I started playing bass he is'ent the most techincally gifted bassist but he sure can write a good groove and has a brilliant tone. I always wondered why he stopped using his stingray he got such a great tone with the first album using it. To be fair Tim's best bass work on any album he has worked on is evil empire.

nowitzki

02-20-2006, 10:12 AM

Yeah same here, when I first started playing bass I basically learnt the whole RATM catalogue. His basslines are so cool and always suit the song.

blue3

03-01-2006, 10:16 PM

I like learning RATM songs on bass. I really need to get one soon.

SimonCore

03-02-2006, 03:51 AM

From what I've heard, Zack left because he didn't feel the band was taking enough political action as it should. I respect the man and his work, but that excuse seems oddly fishy. R.A.T.M. is why I love politics. I think they touched the minds and souls of many a teenager and young adult.
R.A.T.M. is one of those bands I listen to while doing my homework/playing a video game/working on the computer and I just wish they were back. I miss the funky riffs, the funky vocals, the kickass bass and guitar and drums...
My biology teacher loves Rage and the main thing he hates about Audioslave is how soft Cornell's voice is compared to the rest of the band. He hears the music, gets pumped, and then Cornell starts crooning and he loses it. He just can't get into it.
Give him the self-titled Rage debut, and he becomes quite possibly one of the most kickass teachers in the state.

I thought he left because he was going to jail. Ya know I don't think they ever toured 'Renegades'

Bass_ment

03-02-2006, 05:16 AM

This thread just won't die will it?

Zach never went to jail and Renegades was released after the band broke up although they were playing some of the songs on the last tour (How i could just Kill a Man, I'm Housin', Kick out the Jams,) and they were even playing Ghost of Tom Joad on the evil empire tour.

As for why Zach left the band, Tom said recently in Kerrang that the band fell apart during the constant touring and recording, they were increasing in popularity but the inter band connections suffered as a result. Basically, inter band conflict ended the band.

SimonCore

03-02-2006, 07:12 AM

^ bah. I've spent all this time believing that Zack was in jail and when he got releases there would be a massive come back tour. Now my dreams have been shattered:upset:

Thor

03-02-2006, 06:48 PM

I like learning RATM songs on bass. I really need to get one soon.
As do I, I can play nearly all of them.

I know all of the first three albums, a few unreleased tracks, and about half of Renegades on bass. :)

Scuba_Steve

03-02-2006, 07:30 PM

Thor

03-02-2006, 07:31 PM

I noticed on the audioslave in cuba DVD when they played the RATM songs, chris went off stage (and got changed), and they cut down the songs to just main riff/solos.

Is this because of legal issues and not wanting to pay zack royalties?
Most likely, but I've heard them play Killing in the Name before pretty close to the original.

Chris Cornell is incapable of being as cool as Zack though.

Scuba_Steve

03-02-2006, 07:54 PM

Most likely, but I've heard them play Killing in the Name before pretty close to the original.

Chris Cornell is incapable of being as cool as Zack though.

I remember during live 8, they had audioslave play Killing in the name (or bulls on parade, not sure) along with their own songs.

When chris cornell let a guy from the audience sing, the guy sounded more like zack then chris did.

Thor

03-02-2006, 08:41 PM

I remember during live 8, they had audioslave play Killing in the name (or bulls on parade, not sure) along with their own songs.

When chris cornell let a guy from the audience sing, the guy sounded more like zack then chris did.
Chris's voice is great in studio, but terrible live.

Darkness

03-02-2006, 08:52 PM

Chris's voice is great in studio, but terrible live.
When I saw him, he was excellent. He seems to have his on and off days.

Thor

03-02-2006, 08:53 PM

When I saw him, he was excellent. He seems to have his on and off days.
All of the live clips I've seen him do were sloppy and dull. He just didn't seem to put any emotion into his performances.

Apocalyptic Raids

03-02-2006, 08:57 PM

Cornell doesn't sound like he used to these days :(

blue3

03-02-2006, 09:35 PM

When I saw him, he was excellent. He seems to have his on and off days.I thought he sounded awesome live too. But yeah, he doesn't sound as good as he used to.

Rage4ever

03-19-2006, 08:35 PM

I went to Audioslave concert in Indianapolis, it was ok, the crowd went Super-freaking wild when they played RATM songs, Rage beats Audioslave , they each have different kinds of music,Auidioslave is more rockish when Zach's lyrics are so magical, its so cool how he can come up with this stuff, genious. And how they use the present time issues and stuff in the lyrics, its really cool

2muchket!

03-26-2006, 08:59 AM

Unearthed Live at the Olympic Grand Auditorium last night. Man I forgot how much they kick *** live, people of the sun and Killing in the Name are such great songs to thump out live. I'm still holding out for a RATM reuinion so I could maybe see them at least once live, but chances are slim :(

Mambuto_O'Mally

01-24-2007, 09:43 PM

Well I'd thought I'd get the good 'ol thread going again. It's been a while, not only for this thread but for this whole board. I mean there is rep now.

So I'm really hoping they choose an awesome set list including the rarely played Wake Up. Mainly I'm just excited to see them back together.

Pages back (probably 2 years ago) I had said how my reason in life was to re-unite RAGE. Now I don't have to. I hope that they will do more shows, but make another album? I don't know at this point.

Anyway, great news and its great to see (if there will be any) new faces in here and to see the old crowd again.

Darkness

01-24-2007, 09:44 PM

I think if they put on a great live show like they use to be able too, and have lots of energy and their hearts are obviously in it again, then I think they should make a new album. If not, then they should probably steer away from the idea.

Mambuto_O'Mally

01-24-2007, 09:49 PM

See this is what I'm talking about. Someone came back. Man remember spending so much time in this thread. This is great stuff. Hopefully they'll pull a Primus and realize that they should have never stopped.

Darkness

01-24-2007, 09:51 PM

I had to come back to this thread... I have the most posts in it. :)

Mambuto_O'Mally

01-24-2007, 09:53 PM

Stupid question, but I only have 1 bad rep and 0 good rep...

If you catch my drift...

Danger Bird

01-24-2007, 10:49 PM

I bet they'll just do this one show and call it quits. Artists don't tend to regress like that. Rage is over.

There's no way I'll make it down to CA to see them but I'm looking forward to April just to see some bootleg video.

Dr. Jake Destructo

01-24-2007, 11:02 PM

Rage will never make a new song.

I would be happy to be proved wrong though.

Huber

01-25-2007, 12:09 AM

If they don't do anything after Coachella that'd be lame, but man I'm happier than ever to live in California because you know I'm SOOOOOO going to Coachella.

sportsfan4427

01-25-2007, 06:20 AM

it'd be so sweet if they did make some new material though

ShadowBassist

01-25-2007, 07:34 AM

I'd be over the moon if they decided to tour anywhere after Coachella

Apocalyptic Raids

01-25-2007, 09:24 AM

I can't see it happening.

TheMisterBungle

01-25-2007, 09:57 AM

I'd be over the moon if they decided to tour anywhere after Coachella
Oh Em Gee yes.

Lunch

01-25-2007, 10:43 AM

I'm not trying to fall into the same trap as the Pink Floyd Live 8 reunion.

132WalrusesInMexico

02-25-2007, 11:54 AM

So RATM is going on tour now, although it's only 4 dates.:(

Black_Serenade

02-25-2007, 12:00 PM

will any of them be in the uk ?

static

02-25-2007, 12:40 PM

Nope.

Thor

02-25-2007, 12:47 PM

Yeah the website doesn't work. Where are they playing?

And also, why are they OPENING for Wu-Tang Clan?

Black_Serenade

02-25-2007, 12:59 PM

:mad: they should well come to the UK it would be sweeeeeeet

niobium

02-25-2007, 01:03 PM

just one show and that's it!
...
just three more shows, and that's final!!
.......

Danger Bird

02-25-2007, 05:23 PM

Yeah the website doesn't work. Where are they playing?

And also, why are they OPENING for Wu-Tang Clan?

Cause WU-TANG CLAN AIN'T NUTHIN TA **** WIT

Stoo

02-25-2007, 05:48 PM

Where does it say they are doing more dates?

Ugh come to the UK.

Kay just realised it says in the news section. Even though it links to the RATM site that has no info on it...

GenuineImitation

02-25-2007, 08:18 PM

Holy ****!

Rage is playing in New York. I am going to do everything in my power to go.

Darkness

02-25-2007, 08:22 PM

God dammit... just do a full fledged world tour already.

GenuineImitation

02-25-2007, 08:25 PM

God dammit... just do a full fledged world tour already.

I think they will wind up doing that. Once they see the crowds reaction, Im sure they will change their minds. Especially since Audioslave is taking a break.

Darkness

02-25-2007, 08:28 PM

GenuineImitation

02-25-2007, 08:36 PM

But Morello will probably be busy with The Nightwatchman. Not that that's a bad thing, but he won't have more time for Rage until probably the new year... and who knows what the other guys will be up too.

Think about it this way. Morello may not be able to think about RATM for another year because of his busy schedule, but its better than never thinking about it again.

niobium

02-26-2007, 12:47 AM

You guys do know that Zach has short hair now, right?

I saw and thought it weird.

Stoo

02-26-2007, 07:07 AM

But Morello will probably be busy with The Nightwatchman. Not that that's a bad thing, but he won't have more time for Rage until probably the new year... and who knows what the other guys will be up too.

I don't think Tom's Nightwatchman tour would be massive. I hope they see the reaction of the crowd and remember how loved RATM were.

Thor

02-26-2007, 12:19 PM

^^^
They still are.

The Nightwatchman thing is ok. I love his guitar work in it but Tom wasn't really meant to be a singer. He's a good songwriter, though.

Dr. Jake Destructo

02-26-2007, 12:38 PM

Where have you heard The Nightwatchman? I'm sort of interested in it.

Thor

02-26-2007, 12:41 PM

I just checked out some of his vids on youtube. I wish I could pick up a CD somewhere, but I don't that there are any.

Stoo

02-26-2007, 01:34 PM

^^^
They still are.

The Nightwatchman thing is ok. I love his guitar work in it but Tom wasn't really meant to be a singer. He's a good songwriter, though.
Yeah man of course! I was going to change it to "they are", but they havn't released anything in years so technically... they WERE great!

Fave band ever :cool: I think I've said that phrase a million times on MX.

Oh and Tom has a really good voice actually. Good folk voice. The Nightwatchman stuff is great, I have the Axis Of Justice CD... got some songs on that. He has a Nightwatchman site aswell.

I'll probably buy his CD.

Thor

02-26-2007, 05:54 PM

Fave band ever :cool: I think I've said that phrase a million times on MX.
It's ok they're mine too. :thumb:

Them and Opeth at least. It's disgusting how close each of them are to being my favorite, but I can never decide.

Stoo

02-26-2007, 06:26 PM

Decide... :angry:

Opeth are my second. Let's be buddies!

Thor

02-26-2007, 06:30 PM

Whoa, you're awesome. :chug:

Darkness

02-26-2007, 06:34 PM

Where have you heard The Nightwatchman? I'm sort of interested in it.

If you check out the Axis Of Justice CD he released with Serj, he I think has 2 songs on there, both very cool. I really like his stuff, I think he's actually a decent singer.

Thor

02-26-2007, 06:36 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEU1ys-JJ48

This song is GREAT! The guitar work is beautiful.

Stoo

02-26-2007, 07:22 PM

Yeah "Until the End" is on the Axis CD. Such a class song.

"Union Song" is great too!

That Vid you posted Thor is from the Axis of Justice DVD. You get that with the CD! Yay!

Loads of great artist perform on that mofo...

Maynard
Serj obv
Flea
Brad Wilk
Chris Cornell
Jurassic 5
John Dolmayan
Pete Yorn
Knowledge

Check that shiz out punks.

Dr. Jake Destructo

02-26-2007, 07:35 PM

That's a manly voice right there.

Darkness

02-26-2007, 08:40 PM

He does have balls, I'll agree with you there. :p

niobium

02-27-2007, 09:36 AM

So yeah The Nightwatchman is going to be on Jimmy Kimmel tomorrow. Or Sputnik just says "Tom Morello". I'll watch.

Thor

02-27-2007, 12:49 PM

That's a manly voice right there.
Yeah, it's like a deeper Johnny Cash. Yes, that's possible.

trentlogain

02-27-2007, 09:02 PM

i hope the band reunites now that audioslave is no more and makes more studio albums. i know they are going to be at some summer concert event.

Thor

02-27-2007, 09:13 PM

I'm 98% sure that they won't.

GenuineImitation

02-28-2007, 03:49 PM

Im fairly certain Im going to see them when they play New York.

Im kind of worried about the crowd for the Wu-Tang Clan. While I enjoy some Wu-Tang, I think I'll stick out like a sore thumb. It would probably be best if I left after RATM.

Thor

02-28-2007, 03:53 PM

...and why RATM is opening for Wu-Tang is beyond me.

Stoo

02-28-2007, 06:14 PM

...and why RATM is opening for anyone is beyond me.

Danger Bird

02-28-2007, 06:24 PM

because Wu-Tang Clan ain't nuthin ta **** wit

Darkness

02-28-2007, 06:57 PM

...and why RATM is opening for anyone is beyond me.

Yes. I'm sure plenty of bands would kill for the chance to open for RATM...

Dr. Jake Destructo

02-28-2007, 07:08 PM

Isn't it a festival anyways? You don't really 'open' at a festival...:shrug:

Danger Bird

02-28-2007, 08:00 PM

You mean Coachella or the Wu-Tang shows?

Thor

02-28-2007, 08:03 PM

because Wu-Tang Clan ain't nuthin ta **** wit
They're good, but they are not RATM.

Dr. Jake Destructo

02-28-2007, 08:05 PM

You mean Coachella or the Wu-Tang shows?

The Wu Tang shows. I thought they weren't just RATM and WTC, I thought they were part of some larger tour..

Stoo

03-02-2007, 10:33 AM

Said they are supporting Wu-Tang.

?

punknmetal4lyf

03-02-2007, 10:41 AM

Fvck that ****, Wu-Tang should be the opening act, not the other way around. Oh well...

Rage forking rocks. Ultimate headbanging shite. I just love this stuff. The perfect blending of rapped vocals and hardcore shouting filled with driving rhythm and infectious lead guitars, not to mention the distorted bass basically does a top-notch job of filling in where synthesizers or samplers would usually be used in a rap album.

Stoo

03-02-2007, 10:45 AM

I like you :)

niobium

03-02-2007, 12:19 PM

Why is Tim Bob so cool?

Stoo

03-02-2007, 12:37 PM

Because he changes his name on every album and then some.

Timmy C
Tim Bob
Y.Tim K.
Simmering T

Only the coolest of people do that.

LedZeppFan83

03-02-2007, 12:42 PM

I really want to go to the Rage Against the Machine festival in California, but i live on the east coast.....:angry:

niobium

03-02-2007, 12:44 PM

That, and the torso tattoo thing. My friend says in the circle the design says "666" but I don't believe him.

I've never seen Simmering T, lol

Stoo

03-02-2007, 01:30 PM

It's written on the upside down US Flag on the first Rage DVD. When they perform at Irvine Meadows, CA. I think the songs are; The Ghost Of Tom Joad; Vietnow and something else...

That's right, I know my shiz.

niobium

03-02-2007, 01:33 PM

That's the only Rage DVD I don't have. I have Battle of Mexico City and Grand Olympic Auditorium. Dammit.

Stoo

03-02-2007, 01:39 PM

Get it. So good. Vids from all over the world and different years. Plus Music videos.

They all have good points... Like The Battle of Mexico City is just an amazing performance, and the Mexicans are bloody mental.

The Grand Olympic is the last performance... and come on... it has the DNC gig!!

Trevo

03-02-2007, 03:49 PM

Because he changes his name on every album and then some.

Timmy C
Tim Bob
Y.Tim K.
Simmering T

Only the coolest of people do that.

Y.Tim.K is by far the best.

Stoo

03-02-2007, 06:35 PM

Yes we know he is the best bassist but what is the best name?

:smoke:

Apocalyptic Raids

03-02-2007, 09:55 PM

Tim Bob and Timmy C are the best names.

Thor

03-02-2007, 10:32 PM

Tim Bob is by far the best. And his picture on the back of the Evil Empire booklet with a Pizza Hut shirt. :lol:

raYge

03-03-2007, 02:30 AM

Tim is one of my favorite bassists. He's second only to Les Claypool
Well, as massive a fan of RATM I am, there is no way in hell I could get from Western Canada, to any of the US dates. :(
I'm just hoping for a new album or two.
Which will be followed by a second break-up,
resulting in a second Audioslave, with Kurt Cobain
coming back from the dead to do the vocals.

Zebba

03-03-2007, 02:37 AM

Stoo

03-03-2007, 11:40 AM

If only Chuck Schuldiner and the guys started Death Metal Against the Machine.

Na scrap that shiz, bring back ole Rage.

Thor

03-03-2007, 09:33 PM

^^
That would never work. Rage is too groove oriented and Death is far too technical. Brad Wilk isn't that good. :)

Stoo

03-04-2007, 04:58 PM

Yes, twas a joke :)

niobium

03-04-2007, 05:10 PM

Are the three shows before or after Coachella?

Stoo

03-05-2007, 04:31 AM

After I think.

Grumma

03-05-2007, 04:35 AM

^^
That would never work. Rage is too groove oriented and Death is far too technical. Brad Wilk isn't that good. :)

And I *think* Wilk only uses a single pedal doesn't he?

badtaste

03-05-2007, 06:39 AM

**** you, I won't do what you tell me

Apocalyptic Raids

03-05-2007, 08:30 AM

And I *think* Wilk only uses a single pedal doesn't he?
yeah he does.

Clunge

04-30-2007, 01:59 AM

So yeah, they played Coachella last night.

Anyone found a setlist/report?

Clunge

04-30-2007, 04:37 AM

'Testify'
'Bulls On Parade'
'People Of The Sun'
'Bombtrack'
'Bullet In The Head'
'Down Rodeo'
'Guerrilla Radio'
'Renegades Of Funk'
'Calm Like A Bomb'
'Sleep Now In The Fire'
'Wake Up'
'Freedom'
'Killing In The Name'

Mmmmm.

English shows please :(.

Stoo

04-30-2007, 06:58 AM

That's a pretty awesome set. Freedom wasn't last? :eek:

And Wake Up? Renegades of Funk? Down Rodeo? Omg... Cum enducing.

*Awaits YouTube Vids*

niobium

04-30-2007, 08:22 AM

I'd buy a DVD of that

Really typical setlist, though. I guess it had to be that way. Was hoping for something more intimate, but it's Coachella, you have to give them a show.

Stoo

04-30-2007, 11:11 AM

Rage? Intimate? What would you suggest?

omgwtfboogie

04-30-2007, 02:49 PM

Last night they played such an awesome show. Great stage presence and a really aggressive political speech during "Wake Up."

Stoo

04-30-2007, 05:32 PM