**Rage Against The Machine**

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

I just use the distortion from my amp. It sounds chunkier.

Mine sound like ****. Or Daron Malakians distortion on 'Mezmerise'. You choose.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Ironically, Malakian uses the same kind of amps that Morello uses. :lol:

[ATM]

What kind of pedal do you have Chris? What model, that is.

RP100. It blows.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Ah, well of course. You must upgrade to at least a 200A for the built in artist presets. Either that, or splurge for the POD. :lol:

[Shaft!]

Darkness sucks. Thankfully it didn't make it on s/t.



Uh..."Darkness" was composed for the soundtrack to the "The Crow". I actually think it's very good, considering the darkness surrounding the plot of the movie. The jazzy riffs were a good touch, and the solo is one of Morello's better solos, in my humble opinion.
It wouldn't have made it on the s/t anyway. It wasn't composed until after they made the demo.
"Clear the Lane" is the song I'm glad didn't make it to the s/t. The style wouldn't have matched up with the other songs in any good way, other than the solo.
I think the only song by Rage I'll never be able to listen to again and not cringe is "Mindset's A Threat". It's an earlier one, and it's terrible. I can't even make out what Zack is saying. He keeps using this Jamaican accent, but the opening of the song either gave birth to/was ripped off the intro to "Freedom"(not guitar, where Zack goes "Pull..Pull..Whee!").

[DuncMaster]

On a Rage related note...
I'm listening to "Mindset's A Threat" from LimeWire and it's...different.
Zack sounds like he's trying to mimic a Jamaican accent. The song is so slow compared to a lot of Rage's work.
Tom's solo is excellent. Starts out bluesy then bam, serious shredding.
Nothing defining by Tim, or Brad.
I'm downloading "Degeneration X" right now. It doesn't sound like Zack at select points. Did Rage really do this? I'm skeptic.

I've saw the biggest FAQ for RATM you'll ever see, and it says something about them having nothing to do with "Degeneration X". Might have been Tom that said it.

[Shaft!]

I listened to it, and they're trying to sound like Rage, but whoever did it made the vocals too whiny.
I didn't think it was them, and I really don't think so to this date.

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

Ironically, Malakian uses the same kind of amps that Morello uses. :lol:

I know. On the new CD, his tone sounds like its from the late-60's, early-70's because the distortion is just horrible. And if I can get the same sound coming a little 15 watt amp, well than thats just sad. :lol:

I guess Morello knows how to ues the amp properly.

[Shaft!]

Morello knows how to use almost everything properly.
I want to know how he did the solo to "Testify". I've seen it live but I can't really tell what he's doing.
Anyone know?

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Morello knows how to use almost everything properly.
I want to know how he did the solo to "Testify". I've seen it live but I can't really tell what he's doing.
Anyone know?
Well on the Battle Of Mexico City DVD, he takes out the lead and taps it on the bridge. Like he does on Bullet In The Head live sometimes.

[Shaft!]

Alright, thanks.
I've seen it live but I can't really tell what he's doing.
I meant to say I've seen him do it when they're live, but I never got to see them live.
I was too young.

[wrathchild88]

does anyone know where i could get my hands on the song 'producer'?

its quite rare but ive heard its really good

[Shaft!]

I found it on LimeWire.
I'm downloading it now. I'll let you know if it's authentic.
It is.
It's interesting so far. The intro is very powerful, and then it mellows out with a catchy bassline and Morello hitting the high notes.
Very angry, but not a song I'm going to list as "great".
This was live, though. There might be a rare studio version floating around somewhere that just never made it.

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

Morello knows how to use almost everything properly.
I want to know how he did the solo to "Testify". I've seen it live but I can't really tell what he's doing.
Anyone know?

I play this entire song, including that solo. It's awesome. That is one of the few songs that I can play entirely and love everything about it. Right now I'm working on Township Rebellion. I love the 'Super Mario Bros.' sounding solo in there. :thumb:

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

Alright, thanks.

I meant to say I've seen him do it when they're live, but I never got to see them live.
I was too young.

Me too. I was 9 when BOLA came out.

sorry for the double post. I'm a little unsure how to have more than one quote in one post.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I know. On the new CD, his tone sounds like its from the late-60's, early-70's because the distortion is just horrible. And if I can get the same sound coming a little 15 watt amp, well than thats just sad. :lol:

I guess Morello knows how to ues the amp properly.

Ah, more irony. Morello uses older tubes in his amps. Like from the 60's and 70's. :lol:

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

^^^
That's crazy. :lol: :lol: :thumb:

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

Good news, I finally got the right jack so I can start recording soon. I haven't played Vietnow for a while so give me a day or so.

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

Hey Dr. Jake you got your avatar back. Sorry about the tripple post, I just want to start discussion in this thread again.

[LibertyAvenue]

Tom Morello is a great guitarist. He's not Page or Hendrix but what he does is so simple but so great sounding. He's my favorite guitarist, hands down. The emotion in his riffs are just breath-taking. Yah I sound like fag but I just love his **** so much.

[Thor]

Well I'm going to be gone for 3 weeks so someone else needs to do bass and vocals. I'm sorry, but there's nothing I can do.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Ok, so then are you still going to be running the competition? If not, I call dibs. :cool:

[blue3]

I don't listen to Rage Against The Machine that much.. I like the song 'Killing in the Name' though

[VSX]

Ah, more irony. Morello uses older tubes in his amps. Like from the 60's and 70's. :lol:

Ah, never knew that.

[aka1987]

all the albums are great but evil empire not quite so good
they have to be on of the best bands of all time

[static]

Whos gonna do vocals now?

[thetrooper]

i heard zack de la rocha recorded a song on the fahrenheit 9/11 soundtrack, is this true and has anyone heard it? self titled and batlle for L.A. is my fav. album

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

Yeah, it was called.......




















I'll get back to you with that.

[Mr Herb]

u peeps need a bassist?

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

Do we? I think so, but if someone would clear that up that would be great.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

ZDLR colloborated with DJ Shadow to create March of Death, which was on Micheal Moore's idiot film.

We do need a bassist.

[Thor]

^^^
Do you have March of Death? If so, can you upload it onto here?

[Darkness]

What a dead thread...

Anyways, I'm getting to work tomorrow. I would have today, but not playing for the past 15 days left my left hand a little stiff, so today I was just trying to get as good as I was before I left. Lots of shred today. :D

[Darkness]

ZDLR colloborated with DJ Shadow to create March of Death, which was on Micheal Moore's idiot film.

We do need a bassist.
Wrong, your thinking of We Want It All, which was on Moore's film.

[Bass_ment]

You need a bassist eh? well if I wasn't on vacation for 3 weeks I'd gladly help you out as I know a lot of Tim's basslines. Best of luck though.

[DuncMaster]

www.funkblast.com

Just thought I'd throw that in, RATM fans would be intrested.

[Music Nerd]

www.funkblast.com

Just thought I'd throw that in, RATM fans would be intrested.

Thanks alot, it had some good live tracks. Including their Clash cover, thanks.

RATM were so amazing. One of the first albums I ever got was the Battle of Los Angeles. Then I got their self titled.. and Renegades. All the covers they do rock. Especially "Kick Out the Jams". Too bad they broke up, they were great.

[Mr Magic]

Well I looked around and there doesn't seem to be any discussion thread about ratm. They are easily one of my favorite bands, and I thought we could use this thread to talk about them.

I'll start off with a simple subject: favorite album?

For me it would have to be self titled, for sure.

I only like the self-titled album. the other albums from them is really boring! but still i think that Tom Morrello is an awsome guitar player;)

[Darkness]

Evil Empire is anything but boring IMO, but I can see why people think the others are boring.

[DuncMaster]

I love all the albums, i have periods where i like one more than another, but im sure thats the same for all ratm fans.

[iBENezrocker]

OMG OMG OMG OMG at last a rage thread! or at least a good one.

Rage are the best band we have been blessed with since ages. It was them that got me to pick up a bassist. Timmy C. reamains my favourite bassist and one of my favourite bands. They kick so much *** its unbelieveable. Self titled for sure, especially know your enemy

[DuncMaster]

been a rage thread for ages dood....

[iBENezrocker]

i havent been on for ages. I got banned, there was some unpleasantness involving one of my threads

[iBENezrocker]

He's gone solo lately he made a song for Farrenheit 9/11

The Band have quite a few connections with micheal moore. He got arrested in the Sleep now in the fire video hehe.

[DuncMaster]

The Band have quite a few connections with micheal moore. He got arrested in the Sleep now in the fire video hehe.

Yup, thats coz he directed it...

[iBENezrocker]

Yup, thats coz he directed it...

Yup i got it on my pc. I like it its good, especially when theyre all gettin arrested but Timmy C is still boppin. and the "WAll street declares RATM will not play on wall street" and then *BANG* openin shot of the street sign wall street, and tom explodes with the sleep now in the fire riff, classic

[iBENezrocker]

Ironically, Malakian uses the same kind of amps that Morello uses. :lol:

Obviously not heard Morellos and Malkians connections, in like secret underground anti capitalist movements and campaigners and stuff, its all on the web.The two are both involved in the same groups and stuff and have close connections and so forth.

[Syncratic]

Hey, guys....I love Rage....I have Evil Empire and love it, but I'm looking for their self-titled. Can anyone trade me over AIM for it?

If yes, thank you!

[DuncMaster]

You dont have the Self Titled and u call urself a fan?? :) jk dood.

[Syncratic]

Do you have it? I've been wanting it for a long time.

[DuncMaster]

I do but i cant give u it. Not over AIM neway.

Get all the albums!! Give something back to the band by BUYING the albums ;)

[AntiSpicuzza]

rage against the machine kicks ****ing ***! tom morello kicks ****ing *** as well! ****...they all kick ****ing ***! the self titled album ****ing kicks *** too.

[Mr Herb]

****ing ***!

Yeah they are pretty good, gotta love Tim

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Utterly pwn'd by the swear filter. :p

So I'm listening to Evil Empire right now. I had forgotten how the rawness just seeps from each song. Just the combination of wierd filter effects on Zack's voice, Tom's tone, and the seemingly intentional bad mixing make for a brilliant combination.

[mitchseek]

audioslave is not rage,never will be,chris is a let down

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

Utterly pwn'd by the swear filter. :p

So I'm listening to Evil Empire right now. I had forgotten how the rawness just seeps from each song. Just the combination of wierd filter effects on Zack's voice, Tom's tone, and the seemingly intentional bad mixing make for a brilliant combination.

Are you canadian? If not how did you hear The Waking Eyes?

sorry for going off topic

[elbassio]

Me and some guys I go to college with are doing a Rage Against The Machine covers band. As this seems to be the place for Rage fans, would any of you go and see a Rage covers band?Bearing in mind that we dont suck.

[superfascist]

Utterly pwn'd by the swear filter. :p

So I'm listening to Evil Empire right now. I had forgotten how the rawness just seeps from each song. Just the combination of wierd filter effects on Zack's voice, Tom's tone, and the seemingly intentional bad mixing make for a brilliant combination.
It does. I'm quite convinced that Evil Empire is their best album. It's not their most technical album or anything, but it's just full of this atmospheric vibe that none of the others can duplicate.

[Darkness]

Me and some guys I go to college with are doing a Rage Against The Machine covers band. As this seems to be the place for Rage fans, would any of you go and see a Rage covers band?Bearing in mind that we dont suck.
I would, but RATMs populairty is fading really fast, and I don't know if to many other people would.

[superfascist]

I would, but RATMs populairty is fading really fast, and I don't know if to many other people would.
I would. As long as the guitarist can play Tom's solo's and such right, I think it'd be pretty cool to see a RATM cover band. I've been trying to learn some myself. Pretty much so far though, the only one I can play right is "No Shelter".

[elbassio]

My brothers doin the guitars. He does most of the solos pretty **** well.I mean really **** well. Even the one from know your enemy which looks solid. He's got the selector switches, most of the fx,the whammy pedal...
Thanks guys.Keep an eye out in case we come near to you! Outrage Against The Machine, remember it.

[Darkness]

What do you do in the band?

[DuncMaster]

My brothers doin the guitars. He does most of the solos pretty **** well.I mean really **** well. Even the one from know your enemy which looks solid. He's got the selector switches, most of the fx,the whammy pedal...
Thanks guys.Keep an eye out in case we come near to you! Outrage Against The Machine, remember it.

mmm Nice name.

Other cover bands; People Of The Sun, Bulls On Parade.

[Darkness]

Guys are we even still doing those covers?

[static]

Guys are we even still doing those covers?

I gave my tracks, just lay down your guitar work and leave the rest to Jake.

[Darkness]

Oh ok... there hasn't been much cover talk so I was thinking you guys lost interest.

[elbassio]

What do you do in the band?

I do the vocals. I should really get some lessons so I don't destroy my voice though

[Darkness]

Guys!! My Microphone Is Messed Up!!! Its Not Working!!! It Didn't Work On Thursday Or Wednesday But I Didn't Get A Chance To Say!!

Jake You Have To Do Bulls!!

I'm ganna try to fix it though... I've fixed it before!

[Darkness]

Jake where are you...

[HELLonWHEELS]

I love rage.

[Mr. Squiggles]

Me and some guys I go to college with are doing a Rage Against The Machine covers band. As this seems to be the place for Rage fans, would any of you go and see a Rage covers band?Bearing in mind that we dont suck.

I would just for the hell of it and because I really like RATM

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I'm here.

If we have no bassist/vocalist, then I really see no point in trying. :-/

[Darkness]

Yeah... forget it...

[SocalJoker89]

um it would be evil empire it was such a heavy sound and every song worth listening they r up there with best bands out of los angeles including metallica and guns and roses

[TerryThorne]

Me and some guys I go to college with are doing a Rage Against The Machine covers band. As this seems to be the place for Rage fans, would any of you go and see a Rage covers band?Bearing in mind that we dont suck.

That would actually be quite cool to see. I actually would like to play bass in a RATM cover band sometime, just all around good music to play and listen to

[DuncMaster]

Yeah, I'd definately go to see a good RATM cover band.

[rata]

as far as being overrated is concern, i think they are... but im a big fan though...

[Darkness]

I wouldn't say that at all... They definatly deserve praise.

[Steerpike]

Well, I recently gave Rage another chance, and I have to say I'm more impressed than I thought I would be.

[Darkness]

Which album did you listen to?

[Steerpike]

To be honest, I didn't buy an album. I downloaded about a half-dozen tracks.

That's just what I do. I don't have money to make whimsical purchases on movies and music. I have a friend with a ton of movies I can watch to see if I'd like them, but with CDs...

So I download some tracks, and if I like what I hear, I go out and buy the albums and other merchandise.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

http://www.soundclick.com/util/downloadSong.cfm?ID=2707875

Some mxer did a cover of Sleep Now in the Fire for the July Metal Competition. I'm downloading it now, but I have been told not to hope to be impressed. Thought I'd post it anyway.

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=361755

If you're in a jolly mood, there are all of the entries. I strongly suggest checking out thisfilter's entry, and cjborton's entry. They covered a Meshuggah song and a Children of Bodom song, respectively.

/flexes Bobo's muscles :p

[Moses]

What songs did you hear Steerpike? RATM immediately stuck to me.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Wow, this cover sounds it was recorded in one take, all with a computer microphone. :upset:

[Steerpike]

What songs did you hear Steerpike? RATM immediately stuck to me.

Bulls on Parade
Guerilla Radio
Killing In the Name
**** the Police
Testify
Wake Up

[Moses]

I don't know why but I like Evil Empire the best. It's more hip-hoppish than anything else they've done but I like that aspect about them the best besides the fact that they just can really jam.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

It also could be the raw insanity radiated from every aspect of the album. Take for instance:

1. Morello really goes expirimental with the effects; More effects than on the S/T, but they're less refined than on Battle, creating tension.
2. Zack, or whoever mixed the album tweaked with the filter on the vocals to create an artificial distortion(very subtle, but noticable) to make the vocals sound dissonant, and in turn, more raw.
3. Timmy C. also used lots of disortion, wah, and occaisionally some whammy.

Evil Empire has grown on me recently, but it's still my least favorite of their albums, not to say it isn't good.

[mcs]

I love Renegades. Maybe mostly because it reminded me of all the oldskool rap songs they covered. Plus it got me listening to some Bob Dylan and stuff. Other than that the music is just amazing, I'd love it the same if it were all originals.

[Darkness]

It also could be the raw insanity radiated from every aspect of the album. Take for instance:

1. Morello really goes expirimental with the effects; More effects than on the S/T, but they're less refined than on Battle, creating tension.
2. Zack, or whoever mixed the album tweaked with the filter on the vocals to create an artificial distortion(very subtle, but noticable) to make the vocals sound dissonant, and in turn, more raw.
3. Timmy C. also used lots of disortion, wah, and occaisionally some whammy.

Evil Empire has grown on me recently, but it's still my least favorite of their albums, not to say it isn't good.
For all those reasons, it makes it my second favorite rage album.

Actually its probably tied with the self - titled... both are masterpeices.

[A_Perfect_Tool]

Rage are a great band, not very versitile though, never the less i got all their albums, but theres this one song that i'd really like to find out where and wot its purpose is. It's called Autologic, it sounds like an earlier recording, i downloaded it awhile back. Been lookin on the net and cant seem to findout wot album/movie it was made for, was it just a song like Revolution that they did with Tool? Any help or info would be good thanks :wave:

[Darkness]

It is, in fact, on their demo tape.

[Freedom Fighter]

^ Ya, its just a really old Rage demo

[Biohazard\m/]

Has anybody heard the Outkast/RATM mix of Bombs over Baghdad? Its pretty cool if you like Outkast.

[iBENezrocker]

Rage cover band would be good, the one I saw the lead singer rapper person couldnt do Zach to save his life. It was them that got me into bass, so I'd love to be in a RATM cover/tribute band playing bass ( as i know how to play quite a few of their songs. First song I ever learnt was bombtrack ) that would kick ***

[alytee123]

One of my fave bands. Tom morellos a big inspiration to me on guitar. Hes got a great uniqute style and his ****s so fun to play.

[Endless Obsession]

I love Renegades. Maybe mostly because it reminded me of all the oldskool rap songs they covered. Plus it got me listening to some Bob Dylan and stuff. Other than that the music is just amazing, I'd love it the same if it were all originals.

They pretty much were originals aside from the lyrics and the basic song-structure. Of the originals I have heard none of them sound like the versions that Rage did.

[Jude]

They pretty much were originals aside from the lyrics and the basic song-structure. Of the originals I have heard none of them sound like the versions that Rage did.

Maggie's Farm definitely doesn't :lol:

[elbassio]

Rage cover band would be good, the one I saw the lead singer rapper person couldnt do Zach to save his life. It was them that got me into bass, so I'd love to be in a RATM cover/tribute band playing bass ( as i know how to play quite a few of their songs. First song I ever learnt was bombtrack ) that would kick ***

I do it well enough apparently. Im not very good at judging myself! I used to be able to play most Rage songs on the bass, but my mates doing it in this band at the minute.It sounds **** good...the one gig we've done went down really well.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

So has anyone heard the song Morello did for the soundtrack of Dodgeball: A true Underdog Story?

[Shaft!]

It also could be the raw insanity radiated from every aspect of the album. Take for instance:

1. Morello really goes expirimental with the effects; More effects than on the S/T, but they're less refined than on Battle, creating tension.
2. Zack, or whoever mixed the album tweaked with the filter on the vocals to create an artificial distortion(very subtle, but noticable) to make the vocals sound dissonant, and in turn, more raw.
3. Timmy C. also used lots of disortion, wah, and occaisionally some whammy.

Evil Empire has grown on me recently, but it's still my least favorite of their albums, not to say it isn't good.
I really wish Morello had chilled with the effects on every album after the self titled. I have an idea of what they are supposed to represent, but it gives me headaches occasionally.
His work on the s/t was excellent, and Evil Empire is an alright C.D., but it's my least favorite. He did establish himself as skilled at the use of effects.
The palm scraping technique and the use of the allen wrench fascinates me the most, and for no other reason than it sounds different.
I dislike it when Tim uses as much distortion and tone as he did on, say, Live at the Grand Olympic. Powerful, yes, but I didn't like it. I'm probably just out of my mind.
Zack's vocals were appealing to me on Evil Empire because they did sound rather raw and it seemed to fit the idea of the album.
There is only one thing that bothers me, and that is that after Evil Empire, Tim's basswork became rather....repetitive in style. I'm not sure if anyone will agree with me, but his basslines just seemed to be repetitive to me.
This goes on with Audioslave, but it hit me first on Renegades and The Battle of Los Angeles.
Maybe I'm out of my mind there too.

[chorbalan]

I think Tims bass playing may have become repetitive at times, but it still has it's moments. I think it is because of the change of style that RATM went through and later Audioslave. I think he changed it so it goes better with the rest of the music. That's just my opinion though, it could be totally wrong.

[Endless Obsession]

Self titled was definitly their best, but theres no need to rip on those other classic albums.

[static]

So has anyone heard the song Morello did for the soundtrack of Dodgeball: A true Underdog Story?

That song really does rule. Cool effects, but somewhat out of place in the movie. Still great, though.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

You have it on your computer? YSI?

[Biohazard\m/]

anyone Heard of Zack's hardcore band from the 90s? Everyone says its Zack's best work... but theres some other band from the later 90s with the same name...Inside Out only had one EP.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000000TAW/qid=1123683507/sr=8-2/ref=pd_bbs_sbs_2/104-5869100-4118325?v=glance&s=music&n=507846/

[Bad Blood]

I bought their self titled CD today. I didn't think i would really be into them, but i'm falling in love with this album!

[BeaZ]

I really wish Morello had chilled with the effects on every album after the self titled. I have an idea of what they are supposed to represent, but it gives me headaches occasionally.
His work on the s/t was excellent, and Evil Empire is an alright C.D., but it's my least favorite. He did establish himself as skilled at the use of effects.
The palm scraping technique and the use of the allen wrench fascinates me the most, and for no other reason than it sounds different.
I dislike it when Tim uses as much distortion and tone as he did on, say, Live at the Grand Olympic. Powerful, yes, but I didn't like it. I'm probably just out of my mind.
Zack's vocals were appealing to me on Evil Empire because they did sound rather raw and it seemed to fit the idea of the album.
There is only one thing that bothers me, and that is that after Evil Empire, Tim's basswork became rather....repetitive in style. I'm not sure if anyone will agree with me, but his basslines just seemed to be repetitive to me.
This goes on with Audioslave, but it hit me first on Renegades and The Battle of Los Angeles.
Maybe I'm out of my mind there too.

Don't forget that Renegades was a cover album so if you disliked the bass line it would have little / nothing to do with Tim. I didn't really notice a decline in his writing, I love his bass playing but it works alot better with RATM than Audioslave.

I guess I'm in a minority with liking Battle For L.A. Some of my favourite songs are on that album, ie. Ashes In The Fall, Calm Like A Bomb, Born Of A Broken Man, and a few others.

[WakeUpHate101]

anyone Heard of Zack's hardcore band from the 90s? Everyone says its Zack's best work... but theres some other band from the later 90s with the same name...Inside Out only had one EP.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000000TAW/qid=1123683507/sr=8-2/ref=pd_bbs_sbs_2/104-5869100-4118325?v=glance&s=music&n=507846/
It sounded ok. I didnt like the vocals in it that much.

[static]

You have it on your computer? YSI?
No, sorry :upset:

[Darkness]

You guys meen that 30 second clip of him playing that one riff? Its called like... Face off or something? Because I have it if you want it.

[static]

You guys meen that 30 second clip of him playing that one riff? Its called like... Face off or something? Because I have it if you want it.
Yeah, that's it.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Oh, it's not an entire song? Dammit, never mind. :upset:

[Apocalyptic Raids]

anyone Heard of Zack's hardcore band from the 90s? Everyone says its Zack's best work... but theres some other band from the later 90s with the same name...Inside Out only had one EP.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000000TAW/qid=1123683507/sr=8-2/ref=pd_bbs_sbs_2/104-5869100-4118325?v=glance&s=music&n=507846/
Don't you mean 80's?

[SalParadise429]

The first song I ever learned on drums was "Bulls on Parade" :thumb:

Evil Empire is probably my favorite cd of Rage....

[Darkness]

Oh, it's not an entire song? Dammit, never mind. :upset:
I'll upload if you want to hear. Its only 30 seconds long.

[redstar_blackfist]

I like Rage Against the Machine

[Biohazard\m/]

Don't you mean 80's?

Same thing, tight homo clothing...drugs...

[GUNFIRE]

I Don't Suppose Anybody Could Ysi Renegades For Us At All Please?

[Shaft!]

Don't forget that Renegades was a cover album so if you disliked the bass line it would have little / nothing to do with Tim. I didn't really notice a decline in his writing, I love his bass playing but it works alot better with RATM than Audioslave.

I guess I'm in a minority with liking Battle For L.A. Some of my favourite songs are on that album, ie. Ashes In The Fall, Calm Like A Bomb, Born Of A Broken Man, and a few others.
I haven't forgotten than Renegades was a cover album. No worries there.
Possibly, it's just that he used more techniques from those inspirations they covered in BoLA and Audioslave.
I'm only critical of the bass on BoLA because it's the only album where it's extremely easy for me to play. It's personal.
I like all of the songs off BoLA that you listed, along with "Maria" and "War Within A Breath".
I accidentally took the name Inside Out for my band and a year after I adopted it, I realized I had taken it from an article in which Zack's pre-Rage band was mentioned. :upset:

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

Well I was gone for two weeks, and I picked up The Battle of Mexico City and Live At The Grand Olympic Auditorium (on DVD, I have the CD). I was very dissapointed with No Shelter on LATGOA. Tim tried pushing his bass way to much and it ruins the song. But the rest of both are pretty good. :thumb:

[Darkness]

Their great dvds. Both quality performances with exalent quality.

You have the self titled one? Its just as good.

[MachinegunFoot]

Renegades of Funk!

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

The first song I ever learned on drums was "Bulls on Parade" :thumb:

Evil Empire is probably my favorite cd of Rage....

Do you have all their albums? I find EE to be their weakest.

[hamster]

rage is one of my favorite bands. I don't think one can compare one album to another becuase they are all great.

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

Do you have all their albums? I find EE to be their weakest.

That's your opinion. Personnally, I have 5 of their CD's and Evil Empire is my favorite. :thumb:

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

That's your opinion. Personnally, I have 5 of their CD's and Evil Empire is my favorite. :thumb:

I'm aware that's my opinion.

[Shaft!]

Ok man, don't get too defensive about it. We're all friends here. :thumb:
I recently played a Music Man Stingray bass like Tim did for the s/t and it was beautiful. I jammed on "Bombtrack" for a while before moving on to "Know Your Enemy" and it had the sweetest tone...
I wonder when Fender or Music Man will give Tim his signature bass. Certainly he is of star status enough so that his signature series would sell like mad.

[Darkness]

Doesn't he wind his own pickups?

[risbo]

Ok man, don't get too defensive about it. We're all friends here. :thumb:
I recently played a Music Man Stingray bass like Tim did for the s/t and it was beautiful. I jammed on "Bombtrack" for a while before moving on to "Know Your Enemy" and it had the sweetest tone...
I wonder when Fender or Music Man will give Tim his signature bass. Certainly he is of star status enough so that his signature series would sell like mad.

He doesn't want his tone being reproduced. He goes through extensive lengths to prevent that, so I doubt he'll be getting a sig even if a company offers.

[Darkness]

Yeah, that to.

[Shaft!]

That makes sense.
He might wind his own pickups, but he uses older pickups for his tone. I think he uses '72 pickups currently. I'm not exactly sure.

[L' Via L' Viaquiz]

Im sure this has been posted before, but there is a really good site full of r.a.t.m bootlegs, most of the battle of l.a era, but some are from before their self-titled. Just go to www.funkblast.com . I think the site is great but thats probably because im a huge r.a.t.m fan. So check it out it good stuff.

P.S if this was already posted im sorry, thread is sooooo long.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

His tone is freaking impossible to reproduce. I've never devoted more time tweaking my tone than when I try to emulate Morello's tone. It's just so unique, and it varies so much. Plus, unless you have a nice set of old British tubes laying around, you're not going to be able to do it, even with a thousand dollar effects processor. :p

[Shaft!]

I don't know, Tim was featured on a U.K. Fender site and so I was wondering if a signature series would come into effect.
Ah, times are rough between me and my girl, so there's nothing better to make me calm down than "Wake Up". Not sure why, but that song helps me snap out of my depression. :)
I do love a good mellow out.

[static]

Im sure this has been posted before, but there is a really good site full of r.a.t.m bootlegs, most of the battle of l.a era, but some are from before their self-titled. Just go to www.funkblast.com . I think the site is great but thats probably because im a huge r.a.t.m fan. So check it out it good stuff.

P.S if this was already posted im sorry, thread is sooooo long.

Not posted yet, much thanks :thumb:

[L' Via L' Viaquiz]

no worries demonhunter, if everone else is as big a fan as i am, then they should enjoy.

[L' Via L' Viaquiz]

well im not too sure whats going on, unless its just for me, but it seems you need an account to view songs, it wasnt even two weeks ago i was on it and listening to songs. Sorry about this guys.

[Darkness]

You shouldn't need an account... not if memory serves correctly.

I highly recommend Zack De La Rocha Network (www.zdlr.net) and Tom Morello Project (www.tommorello.net) for the ratm/tom fans out there. Awesome sites, with some really cool peopel. I'm on the ZDLR as "RunninFree"...


...I'M RUNNIN FREE YEAH! OH I'M RUNNIN FREE!

/Maiden moment

[BlastFunk03]

I thought it was awesome hearing Rage close out both Matrix films. I only wish the third movie used one. I think Born as Ghosts or even Bulls on Parade would've been perfect for the end of Revolutions.

[Violent_Bill]

Revolutions had **** all good music. I HATE IT I HATE IT I HATE IT IT WAS SUCH A CRAP MOVIE!

[alternitive]

self-titled \m/

[DuncMaster]

Originally Posted by L' Via L' Viaquiz
Im sure this has been posted before, but there is a really good site full of r.a.t.m bootlegs, most of the battle of l.a era, but some are from before their self-titled. Just go to www.funkblast.com . I think the site is great but thats probably because im a huge r.a.t.m fan. So check it out it good stuff.

P.S if this was already posted im sorry, thread is sooooo long.

I posted that a while back.

[ManicMusician]

I only have self-titled, EE and The live album from the Grand Olympic stadium , all of which I love. I wouldnt compare R.A.T.M to any other band (yes including Audioslave who im a big fan of :p )
I was considering pickin up another album, ive head the battle for Los Angeles is good? Any Recomendations?
P.S Morello is amazing

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Get The Battle Of Los Angeles. Most consider BOLA to be second only to the self titled (i prefer EE to BOLA personally). Renegades is good, but is only a covers album and is probably their weakest release.

Both are worth getting though.

[Shaft!]

I agree with Apocalyptic Raids. BOLA is their last album of 100% original material. Renegades is excellent, however, if you want to listen to them cover their influences. I'll just say that their cover of "The Ghost of Tom Joad" is nothing like the original, but it's just as awesome.
I also like their covers of "Renegades of Funk", "In My Eyes", and "Beautiful World". "Beautiful World" will have you sort of ask yourself "This is Rage?!" It's an excellent Devo cover. :)
I'm sort of disappointed. I looked at the bass tabs for R.A.T.M. and they had the theme for Generation X listed as a song by Rage. One person claimed that they had seen a video of Rage performing it live in the ring, but I'm almost positive they were talking crap.

[DuncMaster]

I'm sort of disappointed. I looked at the bass tabs for R.A.T.M. and they had the theme for Generation X listed as a song by Rage. One person claimed that they had seen a video of Rage performing it live in the ring, but I'm almost positive they were talking crap.

They had nothing to do with that song. Tom Morello said it himself.

[ManicMusician]

Just listened to the cover of "Renegades of Funk"
Wow...i love it

[Kyle]

they did preform the song in a wrestling ring, I've seen it.

[TheMachineRagesOn]

they did preform the song in a wrestling ring, I've seen it.

As have I, though was about 6 -7 years ago i think..

[DuncMaster]

Really? Holy ****. Tom or someone said in the massive Official Rage FAQ, they had nothing to do with it.

[TheMachineRagesOn]

prolly, nothing to do with the actual song/songwriting maybe, im not sure was definately them tho, man thats taken me back some years..

[Kyle]

prolly, nothing to do with the actual song/songwriting maybe, im not sure was definately them tho, man thats taken me back some years..
me too, back when wrestling was good.

*reflects upon its brilliance

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

Well, Mindset's A Threat is my new favorite RATM song. Awesome solo. AWESOME SOLO. AWESOME SOLO!!!!!!!!!!!:thumb:!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:thumb:!!!!! !!!!!!!!!

[Darkness]

Audioslave is coming here October 1st... I'm so going... I can't wait to see the rage guys in action. They said they were opening up to more Rage covers to. :D

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I'd like to hear them do some RATM covers. I guess Cornell DOES sing along to Killing in the Name and Sleep Now in the Fire.

[TheDMV]

I recently picked up Battle of Los Angeles and I must say, Rage is quickly becoming one of my favorite baands. IMO there's not a bad song on the album.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Glad you like it. RATM are known for their extremely solid albums. The only album that I feel has a few weak cuts is Evil Empire.

[Darkness]

I'd like to hear them do some RATM covers. I guess Cornell just kind of leaves the stage during them, which is kind of lame. It'd be interesting to hear him try and rap. :p
This isn't true, he sings Killing In The Name and Sleep Now In the Fire with them, but when they do their small portion of Bulls on Parade he just kinda steps back. I could upload my bootlegs if you wish.

Oh and the song with least amount of good songige is BOLA... 7,8,9,10 aren't very good.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Maria(8)is one of my favorite songs. :upset:

Madey said he left the stage. What a blasphemist. I'll download if you upload, since you offered. :)

Fix'd. :lol:

[Darkness]

Ashes is number 11, and its one of my favorite songs to. Uploads in a few min.

[Darkness]

hxxp://s9.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2GSM3ZU12QZZ82RGICELNWAWXM
and
hxxp://s9.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=01GY44MQ18O8B3LDFF3ORN7TFY

[Bass_ment]

Originally I though BOLA to have quite a few mediocre songs, but after listening to it for over 5 years, i can say quite honestly that its still one of my fav cds, and there is something to like about every song

[Shaft!]

I liked BOLA for "Ashes in the Fall" and "Calm Like A Bomb". I've always liked "Born of a Broken Man" as well. It's one of only a handful of songs that really gives you insight into Zack's personal life, the others being "Settle for Nothing" and "Revolver" (Hey revolver, don't mothers make good fathers?".
I'm working on a cover of "Bombtrack" currently, and I hope I can get it done. I rehearse and rehearse, but when I try to record, I usually mess up. I was thinking on carrying on the solo a bit longer and sort of giving it a more blues-based sound...I hope that won't go over badly.
I decided to open it with an intro similar to the intro Morello gave "Bulls on Parade" at the Grand Olympic, but I might change that.
I actually am very glad Cornell doesn't sing "Bulls on Parade". I couldn't imagine the man rapping in really any way.
I'm wondering when they'll give Rage a more official "best of" album. I know that there was an unofficial one, I believe, but I've noticed that since some "best of" albums offer previously unreleased material, a "best of" album from Rage might have one surprise left for us.
I would think that'd be pretty cool, but R.A.T.M. might not have wanted that.
I saw a picture of Zack recently and he ditched his dreads. I'm not sure how old the picture was, but he just has a 'fro. I believe he was presenting at the Latin MTV awards or something.

[Geezer1287]

Has anyone heard Genocide? Good song, Zapatas blood is quite poor, no shelter was on the godzilla soundtrack i think? **** the police (originally NWA) cover was ok too, dunno why it wasnt on renegades.

[Darkness]

Zack is performing october 7th. See zdlr.net for details.

[TheDMV]

This isn't true, he sings Killing In The Name and Sleep Now In the Fire with them, but when they do their small portion of Bulls on Parade he just kinda steps back. I could upload my bootlegs if you wish.

Oh and the song with least amount of good songige is BOLA... 7,8,9,10 aren't very good.

7 is all right, but Maria and New Millenium Homes are Awesome songs.

[Darkness]

Their decent songs, but their not very original at all. Ashes In The Fall is the best on that cd... I'd like it the most even if it was just the "Ain't it funny how the facory doors close" part. :p

[TheDMV]

I think that Maria is one of the more diffrent and original songs on the album.

[Darkness]

Not really... weird riff verse and heavy chorus.. thats like 50% of all rage songs.

[TheDMV]

Not really... weird riff verse and heavy chorus.. thats like 50% of all rage songs.

I guess from basically only hearing BOLA I interpreted the usual Rage as a effectish intro the Zach doing an UHHH as the song gets heavier.

[Darkness]

Get the Self Titled and Evil Empire then. Now.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Does anyone have any of Zack's songs other than March of Death? If so, could you be so cordial as to upload them? :-D Much thanks.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Are there even any others available?

[dr._feelgood]

When is his solo album supposed to come out anyway?

[Darkness]

We Want It All is his other song, I'll get it for you guys now.

Solo album... probably never, but keep hopeing.

Edit: It can be listened to here. We Want It All (http://www.zdlr.net/portal/modules.php?op=modload&name=Downloads&file=index&req=getit&lid=18)

[DuncMaster]

I heard that on the radio a while back. I was like "What the hell? Is that him?" Deff different from other solo songs he done.

[dr._feelgood]

How many solo songs has he done anyway?






200TH POST

[frmautumTOashes]

How many solo songs has he done anyway?






200TH POST

The only ones I know of are March of Death and We Want It All, but he's worked with other artist like KRS one, The Roots, DJ Shadow, and I think Cypress Hill. I really hope comes out with a solo album, but you can check out http://www.zdlr.net/board/index.php I haven't has a chance to read it yet, but it seems like theres a lot of information about his new releases and stuff.

[frmautumTOashes]

This article is over 4 years old, but it says that Zack already has songs made. I always wondered if he didn't release his album cause he had trobule writing songs for it, but apparantly he's done 6 songs with ?uestlove and it says "he will have plenty of songs to choose from" so I don't know why it's been over 4 years and only 2 songs.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1443364/20010503/story.jhtml

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

You can't download We Want it All? I hate streaming. :upset:

[dr._feelgood]

Why did Zack leave the band anyway? Did it have anything to do with the thing at the VMAs when Tim climbed the set?

[Darkness]

Yeah that kinda pissed him off, but he also left becaues he thought the band was starting to be repitetive and that their decision making process had failed.

[-Guitarded-]

Renegades was probably their worst album, a few of the songs are kind of lame. It's not nearly a bad album though.

[Scuba_Steve]

Renegades was probably their worst album, a few of the songs are kind of lame. It's not nearly a bad album though.


I quite enjoyed that album myself.

Pistol Grip Pump was an amazing song. and the whole album was VERY good for it being a cover album.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Zack thought that he could get more done politically as a solo influence, or something. :rolleyes: Talk about a failure.

Anyways, that song was pretty ok...I can't decide if I liked it or not, really. His vocals were definitely more crisp and refined than most of his work with RATM, but the song was quite repetitive.

[ECream]

What do you guys think is the best cover off of Renegades?

I used to think 'Renegades of Funk' , however I quickly realized that 'Maggie's Farm' was BY FAR the best cover on that album.

Best R.A.T.M. cover ever?

I'm Housin - Grand Olympic Auditorium Show

[Scuba_Steve]

What do you guys think is the best cover off of Renegades?

I used to think 'Renegades of Funk' , however I quickly realized that 'Maggie's Farm' was BY FAR the best cover on that album.

Best R.A.T.M. cover ever?

I'm Housin - Grand Olympic Auditorium Show


Pistol Grip Pump always stood out for me.
Maggies farm was really good aswell though.

[Darkness]

The Ghost of Tom Joad pwns them all!

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

In My Eyes is by far my favorite. :cool:

AT LEAST I'M ****ING TRYING!

[Darkness]

..Wow man.. relax...


Ghost > Eyes.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Sorry, I had to say it. How I Could Just Kill a Man has a wicked awesome bassline to it. :-D



Reply here for uber subliminal message!

[Darkness]

..ok.

Oh I think I get it...

[guitargenius]

jhdjdtj

[spankyoplank]

I always loved kick out the jams and renegades of funk they were my favorite covers....

[my name is mud]

the ghost of tom joad is amazing and who was renegades of funk by originally?

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

What exactly happened at the MTV awards anyway? Its been awhile.

[Moses]

RATM lost the "best metal performance" award to Limp Bizkit and Zach climbed on this thing and started swinging on it like a madman.

[ECream]

What exactly happened at the MTV awards anyway? Its been awhile.

This is what I heard (I didn't watch it).

RAGE was up for an award, and didn't win (best rock video? Sleep now in the fire I think). Limp Bizkit (of all the bands...) ended up winning for some dumba$$ video/song.

Sooo... In 'protest?' of the decision Timmy climbed some of the scaffolding and started rockin back and forth and it got way out of hand and possibly dangerous.

Some people say that Zach got fed up with it, and that this is one of the breaking points of the band.

[Moses]

I thought it was Zach....

[ECream]

I decided to make a list of "THE BEST OF RATM..."

I'd like to see other people's lists. You can put 1+ if you are undecided/if the two are just superior.

Bassline: Take The Power Back / Bombtrack
Guitar Riff: Sleep Now in the Fire
Vocals: Killing In the Name / Calm Like A Bomb
Drums: Got me here. I'm not much a drummer.
Songs:
3. Bulls on Parade
2. Township Rebellion
1. Know Your Enemy
Covers:
2. Maggie's Farm
1. I'm Housin
Guitar Solo: Take the Power Back
Best Lyrics: Why stand on a silent platform? Fight the war, F*** the norm.
Best Album: Battle of L.A.

Those are some starting categories. If anyone has any he/she could add, that would be awesome.

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

Good Idea

Bassline: People Of The Sun
Guitar Riff: Year Of Tha Boomerang
Vocals: People Of The Sun
Drums: Killing in the Name / Freedom (love the cowbells as you can see)
Songs:
3. Mindset's A Threat (the solo is amazing)
2. Wind Below
1. Township Rebellion
Covers:
2. Renegades Of Funk
1. Maggies Farm
Guitar Solo: Township Rebellion
Best Lyrics: If the vibe was suicide
then you would push the button
but if you're bowin' down
then let me do the cuttin'
Best Album: Evil Empire

[ECream]

Good Idea

Bassline: People Of The Sun
Guitar Riff: Year Of Tha Boomerang
Vocals: People Of The Sun
Drums: Killing in the Name / Freedom (love the cowbells as you can see)
Songs:
3. Mindset's A Threat (the solo is amazing)
2. Wind Below
1. Township Rebellion
Covers:
2. Renegades Of Funk
1. Maggies Farm
Guitar Solo: Township Rebellion
Best Lyrics: There's a ditch full of bodies so check for the rent / I walk to the corner to the rubble that used to be a library, line up to the mind cemetary now.
Best Album: Evil Empire

Good stuff. I haven't heard a few of the songs, namely Year of the Boomerang.

[Moses]

It's on Evil Empire.

[-Guitarded-]

I saw that happen on MTV, I wasn't sure who did it at the time. That was the highlight of the show. Award shows/MTV suck.

[DuncMaster]

Bassline: Take The Power Back/Calm Like A Bomb.
Guitar Riff: Killing In The Name
Vocals: Killing In the Name/Settle For Nothing
Drums: People Of The Sun
Songs: KiTN, Bulls On Parade, Know Your Enemy, theres actually too many...
Covers:
Maggies Farm, Renegades Of Funk, The Ghost of Tom Joad
Guitar Solo: Settle For Nothing!!!/Take the Power Back/BoP Live!
Best Lyrics: There are lots of great lines, but if u want to hear a great line Live and have the hairs on ur body stand up..."**** You I Won't Do What Ya Tell Me!"
Best Album: Self-Titled!!

[rageagainstthemachine1]

shish shish sha

rage rules

[Bass_ment]

Bassline: No Shelter
Guitar: Bullet in The Head
Drum: Vietnow
Songs: Freedom, No Shelter, Darkness (if you must only pick 3)
Covers: How I Could Just Kill a Man, Maggie's Farm, I'm Housin'
Guitar Solo: Freedom
Best Lyrics:
A mass of nameless at the oasis
That hides the graves beneath the master's hill
Are buried for drinking
The rivers water while
Shackled to the the line at the empty well
Best Album: Rage Against the Machine

[Darkness]

I thought it was Zach....
:lol: No no, it was Tim Bob. Zack was competly pissed off at Timmy C. about doing this, and some say it was the "last straw" that pushed Zack over the edge.

Zack, not Zach

[static]

Bassline: Take the Power Back
Guitar: No Shelter
Drum: Vietnow
Songs: Vietnow, Snakecharmer, Take the Power Back, Know Your Enemy, Guerilla Radio, Ashes in the Fall, Township Rebellion
Covers: The Ghost of Tom Joad, Street Fighting Man, Renegades of Funk
Guitar Solo: Freedom, Bullet in the Head
Best Lyrics: What? The land of the free? Whoever told you that its your enemy!
Best Album: Battle of Los Angeles

[Huber]

Bassline: Killing in the Name
Guitar: Born Of A Broken Man
Drum: Killing in the Name
Songs: Renegades of Funk, Year of the Boomerang, Down Rodeo, Sleep Now In The Fire
Covers: Maggie's Farm, Kick Out The Jams, How I Could Just Kill A Man
Lyric: Can't waste a day when the night brings a hearse/So make a move and plead the fifth 'cause ya can't plead the first
Guitar Solo: Take the Power Back
Best Album: Battle of Los Angeles.

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

:lol: No no, it was Tim Bob. Zack was competly pissed off at Timmy C. about doing this, and some say it was the "last straw" that pushed Zack over the edge.
I don't really understand why he would get pissed at that. If I would lose to Limp Bizkit I would also do something like that to.

[Dread_rocker]

If Zack ever releases his solo album that would be interesting. It reckons to be unlikely though. He seems to be playing with an Mexican music band at the moment.

[ECream]

If Zack ever releases his solo album that would be interesting. It reckons to be unlikely though. He seems to be playing with an Mexican music band at the moment.

I've downloaded some of his solo stuff. One thing was called 'Land of Liberty' which was more of a poem. His other stuff is ok.

I don't get how people can think that Audioslave is better than Rage. And believe me, there are those people. My mom heard a new Audioslave single yesterday and agreed that it sounds like every other band played on the radio.

No one sounded/sounds/will sound like Rage. The anger and rapping, the hardcore basslines, Tom's insane technicalities, and Brad's well, Brad was the drummer.

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

...and Brad's well, Brad was the drummer.
Oh man! I could have sworn he was the keyboard player.

Well Brad had great timing live so I guess they all had something.

[frmautumTOashes]

Bassline: Clam Like a Bomb
Guitar Riff: Bombtrack
Vocals: Bullet in the Head
Drums: Vietnow
Songs:
3. Wake Up
2. Killing in the Name
1. Guriella Radio
Covers:
2. Microphone Feind
1. In My Eyes
Guitar Solo: Know Your Enemy
Best Lyrics: Just victims of the in house drive by. You say jump the say how high.
Best Album: Self Titled

just off the top of my head.

[frmautumTOashes]

Oh man! I could have sworn he was the keyboard player.

Well Brad had great timing live so I guess they all had something.

plus he had some good beats, and his style gave it a more rap/funk feel.

[Huber]

I don't really understand why he would get pissed at that. If I would lose to Limp Bizkit I would also do something like that to.

I think it was because he thought people might view it as some kind of publicity stunt.

[Retrovertigo]

This page makes me realise how little anybody cares about drums.

[lobsterjohnson]

Bassline: killing in the name
Guitar Riff:Testify
Vocals: people of the sun
Drums: darkness
Songs:
3. Bulls on Parade
2. Testify
1. killing in the name
Guitar Solo: testify
Best Lyrics: the riot be the rhyme of the unheard
Best Album: evil empire

[DuncMaster]

I've downloaded some of his solo stuff. One thing was called 'Land of Liberty' which was more of a poem. His other stuff is ok.

That poem was in one of the Rage DVDs...

[-Guitarded-]

I think brad is really good at drums. I doubt Rage would sound as good with a regular rock drummer.

[ECream]

Oh man! I could have sworn he was the keyboard player.

Well Brad had great timing live so I guess they all had something.


I said that to mean that he does nothing special, but does everything just fine. So he is what he is.

[ECream]

I said that to mean that he does nothing special, but does everything just fine. So he is what he is.

Sorry coming off the way it did. I know NOTHING about drums/drumming, so that is why I am ignorant to the topic. Sorry.

[my name is mud]

Bassline:Roll Right, Bulls on Parade
Guitar Riff:Born of a Broken Man, Bullet in the Head
Vocals:People of the Sun, Killing in the Name of
Drums:Killing in the Name of, Vietnow
Songs:
3)Calm like a Bomb
2)Wind Below
1)Bulls on Parade
Covers:
2)How I Could Just Kill a Man
1)The Ghost of Tom Joad
Gutiar Solo:Take the Power Back
Best Lyrics:I be walkin' God like dog
Best Album:Evil Empire

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

plus he had some good beats, and his style gave it a more rap/funk feel.
He definatly made EE what it is. I really love the hip-hop style of that album.
Sorry coming off the way it did. I know NOTHING about drums/drumming, so that is why I am ignorant to the topic. Sorry.
I'm a guitarist but I know about a good drum sound. I guess thats why I want to be a producer. Maybe. :D

[Darkness]

Yeah EE was good for drums. His best is on the new Audioslave though.

[Bass_ment]

Brad Wilk is very underrated in my opinion.

[Petary791]

Brad Wilk is very underrated in my opinion.

+1 man. He's one of my favorite drummers.

My favorite album is hard to pick. I like them all, but Renegades is not awesome, but it's still good.

Timmy C, bring that bass in.


How many people have the CD Live & Rare? I've got it and it's awesome.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Two years ago I would have killed for Live & Rare. I don't know whether I would spend that much on it now. If the price was right, then I would certainly buy it.

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

^^^
I agree. I think I would like to complete the RATM catalouge, including the singles one day, because they're my favorite band but I've got all the big ones so I'm fine with that.

[Iron Bars]

Doesn't live and rare have a bonus disc with Darkness on it? If so than I have almost bought it just for that track which is one of my favorite RATM tracks ever.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Yes, Darkness is part of Live & Rare. I love the solo on that song.

[static]

Live & Rare rules, 'specially Clear The Lane.

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

So, what happened with the cover songs?

[Darkness]

Didn't have a singer or bass player, my microphone broke, etc.

[ECream]

Does anyone like Audioslave?

Tom's guitar sounds like everyone else's guitar, and the vocals don't sound right w/o ZDLR.

I really hate Audioslave.

[Darkness]

I love em. :D


Stop comparing them to Rage, and Morellos guitar sounds far different from everyone elses.

[-Guitarded-]

Audioslave isn't as good, but they arn't garbage like most other mainstream music. Tom still uses some different techniques then most other rock bands, and sounds alot better.

[Bass_ment]

Audioslave should not be discussed in this thread no matter what people's opinions are on them.

Yeah I have Live and Rare and its way fantastic!

[Shaft!]

Excellent, I'm listening to a lot of it. Especially "Darkness". My girlfriend of eight months just broke up with me last night.
The guitar solo and the intro are really soothing.
If Audioslave has its own discussion thread, they should be discussed there.

[ECream]

If Audioslave has its own discussion thread, they should be discussed there.

Considering Audioslave is 3/5 Rage (ZDLR counts as 2), I think they are sort of relevant.

And if I'm doing a compare and contrast, this thing would just go in circles with audioslave people telling me to come here.

[Darkness]

ZDLR wasn't 2, Tom Morello did the same amount of work as him if not more. Zack and Tom were the band, and as good as Tim and Brad are, neither were really all that into the politics. If anything Tom and Zack together are 2/3 of the band and Tim and Brad are the other 1/3.

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

ZDLR wasn't 2, Tom Morello did the same amount of work as him if not more. Zack and Tom were the band, and as good as Tim and Brad are, neither were really all that into the politics. If anything Tom and Zack together are 2/3 of the band and Tim and Brad are the other 1/3.

No thats bull****. Your both wrong. I think they are all 1/4 of the band, they all played important roles in the band.

[Shaft!]

Zack wrote the political lyrics. Tom had the political insight and backing. Tim gave some fame to the band with his antics, even if they were unwelcome, and his basslines. Brad's drumming could be complex and worked perfectly with Zack's lyrics.
No band that lasts over 5 years is reliant on just 2 of the members, it's all 4. Just like any relationship, it takes both of you to make it work.
God, I'm going to hate that analogy. My girlfriend just dumped me last night and I'm begging for a second chance.
I'll learn from this...
In any case, it takes all of a band to make it for as long as they did. They all deserve credit.

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

Zack wrote the political lyrics. Tom had the political insight and backing. Tim gave some fame to the band with his antics, even if they were unwelcome, and his basslines. Brad's drumming could be complex and worked perfectly with Zack's lyrics.
No band that lasts over 5 years is reliant on just 2 of the members, it's all 4. Just like any relationship, it takes both of you to make it work.
God, I'm going to hate that analogy. My girlfriend just dumped me last night and I'm begging for a second chance.
I'll learn from this...
In any case, it takes all of a band to make it for as long as they did. They all deserve credit.
Exactly. Have you taken your problem the relationships thread??? :confused:

[Zakath]

Audioslave suck and are an utter disgrace to the memory of Rage.

[Darkness]

Audioslave suck and are an utter disgrace to the memory of Rage.
Wrong. Audioslave is nothing like rage, and its pissing me off more and more whenever their compared. :evil: :angry:

[Zakath]

Wrong. Audioslave is nothing like rage, and its pissing me off more and more whenever their compared. :evil: :angry:
I'm not comparing their music, I'm just saying that Audioslave sucks while Rage was a great band. Kind of like how I'd say Good Charlotte sucks and Nile is a great band. Except Audioslave and Rage are related through 3 of their members. Retard.

[Darkness]

Because Audioslave have 3 of the same members meens their music should be compared EVEN THOUGH their trying to get a completly different sound? Wow, your a pretty blind moron. Though Nile does kick ***, I'll give you that.

[Zakath]

Because Audioslave have 3 of the same members meens their music should be compared EVEN THOUGH their trying to get a completly different sound? Wow, your a pretty blind moron. Though Nile does kick ***, I'll give you that.
Are you completely stupid? I understand they have a completely different sound. Guess what? IT SUCKS. Rage was great and I wish they were still together making THE TYPE OF MUSIC THAT THEY MADE WHEN THEY WERE RATM YOU ****ING MORON.