**Rage Against The Machine**

[munky_magik]

There may be some limitations on the guitar side of things with certain tracks.

[static]

We are doin Kitno and Bop positively

Suggestions i like:
vietnow
rebellion
bullet

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

There may be some limitations on the guitar side of things with certain tracks.

For example ... ?

[Six Foot Revolver]

For example ... ?
Effects is one

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

He only uses like three pedals. His rig set-up is in the Guitar World with Phish's guitarist on the cover (sorry I can't remember his name). I think they are tremolo, flanger (or phase), and delay.

[Darkness]

I've got it here...
Gain: 7-8
Bass/Mid/Treble:6/8/7
Hm...thats different then what I got.

[Darkness]

Sure, I'll do vocals. What song do you want me to do it for?
Can you do Bulls on Parade?

[Six Foot Revolver]

Hm...thats different then what I got.
It will be different for different amps etc.

[Thor]

Can you do Bulls on Parade?
Yeah, I can, but I would rather do something else.

[Darkness]

Oh well were doing that one forsure, and it'd be nice if we got a vocalist...


Though I have a friend who could...

[Thor]

I'm your vocalist, right here.

[Darkness]

Well if you don't want to do bulls thats fine.

But if your up for it = :D

[Thor]

I'm cool with Bulls, let's do it.

[static]

i just recorded bulls on drums, pretty crappy, will be crappier, but it still works :/

ill do some more later today or after school* tomorrow


*waste of time

[Darkness]

Why is it crappy?

[static]

bad production. the drums are perfect, it just sounds bad, as in the way i recorded it

[Darkness]

How are you recording? and what program?

[static]

uhh....karoake machine. cant afford a recording thingy. no mixer either :upset:

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

You're going to use a friend's recording stuff, though, right?

[Darkness]

Download audacity and buy a 16 dollar computer mic at radio shack? Thats what I use. :D

[static]

Jake-Im trying to

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

So Metal_Head_617, are we still doin' Vietnow, or what happened?

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

DoG-it's not the same with drums. :(

Get Audacity anyways.

This is not a direct link to a download of audacity, but there is a link on that page. just click here. (http://www.audacity.com)

[Insubordinator]

My stepdad has all of their CD's and i never really paid much attention to them, and then today i picked um up and listened to all of em and i think they are now one of my favorite bands... im just pissed that they broke up before i got into them

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

^^^
Same here.

So anybody up for Vietnow??? :naughty:

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Vietnow or Killing In The Name would be easiest guitar wise methinks.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I recorded the 1st half of KitN today. Everything up until the solo, to be exact. It was a good 1st take, but the tone was wayyyy off, so it'll take me a while to tinker with that. Who's gonna do the guitar on Vietnow?

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

I was planning to. Anyway I won't be on for a while. Not till like 9 (CST). I pan recording tomorrow or Friday. IT WILL BE DONE BY SATURDAY.

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

So who is planning on doing the other instruments for Vietnow?

[Duncster]

I'm pretty much ready to do the bass, although I'm going to find it extremely hard to do justice to Tim's distortion/tone with my Squire and Digitech BP200. I'll do bass for any song wanted, but if anyone else wants a shot that cool. :cool:

[Thor]

I'll be very happy if you let me play bass. :thumb:

[Darkness]

You both could probably play on a track. Right now theres 3 songs going on = Bulls, Killing, and Vietnow

[Thor]

Out of those I would like to play on Killing in the Name the most, but I'll take anything.

[Darkness]

Whos going to be our mixer?

[static]

im drumming on every song, and im fixing up BoP right now, so it should be up and running maybe by tonight

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

here's a question. On the last chorus of Vietnow theres two parts the really fast '9' note and the reg. chorus, should I do both?

[static]

yes

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

WE'RE BACK BABY!!!!! YEAH!!!

Anyway I should have Vietnow done shortly. I'm gonna try it in one take.

[Arucard]

Who's doing Bulls? I would love to do the guitar on that.

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

Are all the songs (with the exception of Bulls which is 1/2 a step down) on Evil Empire regular tunning?

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

No answer, eh? Well what to do.

[Janitor]

I think the only songs in standard are down rodeo and without a face, the rest are drop d. I'm not 100% sure about that though.

[Darkness]

^What?? Thats not right. Wind Below, Down Rodeo, People of the sun (even though only played on the A string with an Allen wrench), and Veitnow are all played in standard.

[Aeaon]

Out of those I would like to play on Killing in the Name the most, but I'll take anything.


KITN is pretty easy, but that's all I've played so far.

[Duncster]

Out of those I would like to play on Killing in the Name the most, but I'll take anything.
Yeah go ahead, I just want BoP for the bass solo :D. I was going to do kitno but I don't really care to much so if you want it you can have it. Long as you have distortion :D

[Janitor]

^What?? Thats not right. Wind Below, Down Rodeo, People of the sun (even though only played on the A string with an Allen wrench), and Veitnow are all played in standard.
I said I wasn't completely sure.

[Darkness]

Yeah I know, I was just telling you the others in standard... Not attacking ofcourse.

[Darkness]

Where are them bulls drums??

[Thor]

Yeah go ahead, I just want BoP for the bass solo :D. I was going to do kitno but I don't really care to much so if you want it you can have it. Long as you have distortion :D
Yeah, I've got overdrive. It will sound pretty good, I've got a tone that sounds kind of close to Timmy C's overdrive.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I want drums and bass down before I start recording KitN, if that's otay with you guys.

Metal Cabeza- You're doing vox, right?

[Darkness]

I want bass n drums to acutually.

[Duncster]

I'll do it however I'm told lol. Yeah you can have kitno if you want metalhead, I won't do the bass tone justice.

[Thor]

Cool. Looks like I am doing bass then.

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

Who's doing what on Vietnow again? I'd like the drum part (if possible) so I can listen to it while recording, but if I can't whatever. I got everything lined up and I will edit my part the best I can, but it won't be as good quality as I wanted because my jack broke so I have to do the recording through my mic. But, eh, thats life.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Demon Hunter recorded KitN and BoP last night on drums. He was going to send them to me, but I never got online. :p Oops. Anyways, just giving you guys a little update.

[Darkness]

Hey guys people keep telling me that this threads not aloud to enter the compition because its not an official thread... any thoughts on this?

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I said this earlier, but even if we weren't aloud to enter, I still think it'd be fun to do a couple covers.

[Darkness]

Yeah ok. Still waiting for bass n drums...

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Sweet. Now all I need is a tone that sounds something even remotely close to Morello's. :p I just recorded Killing in the Name, and everything went off fine, but I played it back, and the tone is so horrendously off it's not even funny. (Ok, yeah, maybe a little.) What settings are you using on your RP, DoG?

[Darkness]

Not using my RP, I don't use it anymore. It doesn't work well with my B.C rich, I get a loud feedback on a lot of effects and the tone always sounds way to digital.

As for amp settings, I was told Morello uses
bass-5
middle-7
treble-8

But someone in this thread said something waaaay different. I'm going to try both though.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I think I need to bump up the treble. The riff when my tone sounds the worst is the intro riff where he hits 3 open D's then scales up 2 octaves. Meh, I'll figure it out.

[Darkness]

That'd be cool man, but if you can't find any don't worry about it.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I could google it, but hey, if you really want to, that would be awesome. Thanks ahead of time. :)

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/6327/setup.html

Found this site on Tom's setup. He uses a Marshall 50 watt JCM900. Luckily for me, that exact same amp is built into my RP300A, and probably yours as well, DoG.

[Darkness]

I found a picture of his setup... one second.

Edit: http://s21.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0TDA4YDFDV8XK0LLKM667LF4BJ here it is...

[munky_magik]

Try:
Gain - 6/7
Treble - 5/6
Mid - 4/5
Bass - 5/6
Reverb - 2
Using the neck pickup.
He favours Marshalls, recnetly the JCM800, so any British high-gain amp models should do you well.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I have an Ibanez with a bridge Humbucker and 2 single coils, and a 5 way switch. Which one should I use?

to DoG and Munky-Thanks for the help. I think that I'll be able to figure it out now. :)

[Darkness]

It sounded ok... but I have a really crappy amp... Peavy Studio Pro 112...

[Darkness]

Alright we have a month to do this guys...

[Thor]

Well the new thread is up, someone officially post who is going to be doing what for us.

[Endless Obsession]

Anyone wanna do Freedom?

[Darkness]

We should do know your enemy... that'd be badass... though the solo is pretty tough.

[Endless Obsession]

We should do know your enemy... that'd be badass... though the solo is pretty tough.

We're aloud to do as many as we want.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Ok, tell me if this is correct or not

Killing in the Name
Guitar-Dr. Jake Destructo
Drums-Demon Hunter
Bass-Metalhead 617
Vocals-Metalhead 617

Bulls on Parade
Guitar-Darkness of Greed
Drums-Demon Hunter
Bass-Dunc The Toolophile
Vocals-Metalhead617


Vietnow
help..

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Ok, I have Demon Hunter uploading the drums to Bulls on Parade. It's very low quality, so I'm gonna doctor it with Audacity.

[Thor]

Ok, tell me if this is correct or not

Killing in the Name
Guitar-Dr. Jake Destructo
Drums-Demon Hunter
Bass-Metalhead 617
Vocals-Metalhead 617

Bulls on Parade
Guitar-Darkness of Greed
Drums-Demon Hunter
Bass-Dunc The Toolophile
Vocals-Metalhead617


Vietnow
help..
Seems correct to me.
Horray! I get to do vocals for both songs!

[Duncster]

Alright I should be able to record the bass tomorrow night :thumb:

[Endless Obsession]

Anyone wanna do freedom?

[static]

ok, heres a rough unedited version of BoP. its wrong in a few places and ill havta re-upload it, but here it is anyway. and yes it is called poopoo.

http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2HT0VEJZOL6972L02F1UZQOVMS

[Darkness]

Dude... its an audacity file. Convert to MP3...

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Dude... its an audacity file. Convert to MP3...

http://www.audacity.sourceforge.net

It's worth the 3 mb download. :p

Dammit...Demon Hunter, you only sent the Project file. You need the data and everything else. Go back to the audacity website and download the LAME mp3 converter

http://www.webhostxpress.net/~mitiok/lame-3.96.1.zip

There's a link to the converter. It allows you to save files in Audacity in mp3 format. You can save them as WAV, but they are 6 times bigger than an mp3.

Also, I just recorded Killing in the Name, and it turned out good. I'm gonna double track it tomorrow. I also worked on the solo. I used the same tone, but with my whammy pedal. I sounds pretty good to me. The only thing I've having trouble with is the trem picking. :-/ Other than that, the song is as good as done. (For me at least.)

Metalhead-How are you gonna record? What kind of setup, that is. I have a computer mic, but I can actually procure surprisingly high quality from it.

[Darkness]

I have the converter, he doesn't.

[Duncster]

I'll DEFINITELY do bass for freedom!

[Endless Obsession]

I'll DEFINITELY do bass for freedom!

Alright if we can get vocals and drums.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

R Blythe, would you play guitar on Freedom? I'm sure 617 wouldn't mind rapping. Demon Hunter is down for anything. :lol:

[static]

R Blythe, would you play guitar on Freedom? I'm sure 617 wouldn't mind rapping. Demon Hunter is down for anything. :lol:


Hell yeaaaah :cool:

http://s45.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1I931OCUFH50A2EOKD33CJNUHW

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

http://s45.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1I931OCUFH50A2EOKD33CJNUHW

Try that. It's an mp3 version of the drums to Bulls on Parade.


EDIT: /beaten :(



I just got owned by a 12 year old like 5 times. :angry:

Damn this stupid internet.

[static]

http://s45.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1I931OCUFH50A2EOKD33CJNUHW

Try that. It's an mp3 version of the drums to Bulls on Parade.


EDIT: /beaten :(


Bitch.










:cool:

[Darkness]

Wow... what **** quality... the drums are good none the less though.

[static]

exactly. things will be fixed, babies will be eaten, but the drums will sound better

[static]

freedom is a fun song to play. especially that cowbell-bass guitar interlude. im up for that, definately :cool:

[static]

woah. 500 in my favorite thread.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I'm doing what I can do fix that track. It's gonna be a toughy..:-/

[Duncster]

Good luck :lol:. Those screeches sound like they will be fun to edit out. :p

[Darkness]

^ Yeah, I had it going really loud then its like "GAHSDAD" and I jumped...

[Endless Obsession]

R Blythe, would you play guitar on Freedom? I'm sure 617 wouldn't mind rapping. Demon Hunter is down for anything. :lol:

Yeah i love freedom.

[mr black]

my band did a cover of killing in the name of, the intro's simply to much fun.

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

Ok, tell me if this is correct or not

Killing in the Name
Guitar-Dr. Jake Destructo
Drums-Demon Hunter
Bass-Metalhead 617
Vocals-Metalhead 617

Bulls on Parade
Guitar-Darkness of Greed
Drums-Demon Hunter
Bass-Dunc The Toolophile
Vocals-Metalhead617


Vietnow
help..



For the last time!!!! Who's doing bass, drums, and vocals for Vietnow or is that scrapped?

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

^^^
I can do bass if needed, by the way, but guitar is priority #1 for me

[Darkness]

Who was doing the wah riff in bulls for me again?

[Thor]

^^^
I can do bass if needed, by the way, but guitar is priority #1 for me
I've got bass on lock down, but nice try. :thumb:

[static]

Who was doing the wah riff in bulls for me again?



i was going to, but i cant :rolleyes:

[Darkness]

Why not???

[static]

because you touch yourself at night.

[munky_magik]

because you touch yourself at night.
You've been in the pit too many times :-/

[Darkness]

No really, why?

[static]

You've been in the pit too many times :-/


so?

[static]

No really, why?


i was originally gonna use my friends guitar+wah setup, but i dont think that will work. i might be able to, just dont rely on it :)

[Darkness]

Alright... I'll see what I can do then.

[VeedBok]

RATM is pretty awesome self titled is the best by far :thumb:

[Incirvage7]

Morello's best solo, i believe, is Maria on Battle of Los Angeles. I get blown away by it everytime I listen to it. After that I would say Like A Stone and then Doesn't Remind Me.

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

I've got bass on lock down, but nice try. :thumb:

That's on Vietnow, right?
I didn't really want to do it anyway. I said, "If I have to..."

[Endless Obsession]

Morello's best solo, i believe, is Maria on Battle of Los Angeles. I get blown away by it everytime I listen to it. After that I would say Like A Stone and then Doesn't Remind Me.

Take the power back is better, i think.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Give him a break, he's 12. :p

I'll do the wah part.

And uhh, about your drum track. I'm afraid to say that there was little to be ressurected. :p It's better though. Somewhat. I'll upload what I have maybe tommorrow or so...

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

So... metal_head_617, are you doing vocals on Vietnow?

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

So for Vietnow:
Guitar: i_like_metal
Bass: Metal_Head_617
Vocals: ???Metal_Head_617???
Drums:???

[static]

So for Vietnow:
Guitar: i_like_metal
Bass: Metal_Head_617
Vocals: ???Metal_Head_617???
Drums:???


You don't learn, do you? I'm doing drums on every song.

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

ok, then...
So for Vietnow:
Guitar: i_like_metal
Bass: Metal_Head_617
Vocals: ???Metal_Head_617???
Drums:demon_hunter

[Thor]

ok, then...
So for Vietnow:
Guitar: i_like_metal
Bass: Metal_Head_617
Vocals: ???Metal_Head_617???
Drums:demon_hunter
Why'd you put question marks around me doing vocals? I'm going to do them.

[static]

http://s43.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3N7ATHDPNL89W1ROOLD1BDLUMF


good BoP recording. is slow in some places, is fast in some places.

[Thor]

http://s43.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3N7ATHDPNL89W1ROOLD1BDLUMF


good BoP recording. is slow in some places, is fast in some places.
Well we can work around that. Good recording though. :thumb:

I'll get the bass done in a few days.

[static]

Well we can work around that. Good recording though. :thumb:

I'll get the bass done in a few days.


Yay! It doesnt suck tremendously!

[awesome man]

Do you own a metronome?

[static]

Do you own a metronome?

are you blind? its not a final copy, its just supposed to give the people their drums. Im doing the final copy later on, and i do own a metronome, and i can count, i just didnt havta put all my effort into this one.

and you, you are as fat as a duck.

[awesome man]

I wasn't trying to insult you. I just don't see the point in recording drumming that isn't in time and can't be played along to, you should've have played along to a metronome when you recorded it.

[static]

Orignally posted by the kid up there:
I just don't see



thats why you are blind.

[static]

and besides, it was new recording equipment, and its late and i didnt have enough time, so i did a test run.

[awesome man]

jesus christ

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

Why'd you put question marks around me doing vocals? I'm going to do them.

Well I wasn't sure. Okay its straightened out.

What's the name of the new covers competition thread metal_head_617?

[Duncster]

Well we can work around that. Good recording though. :thumb:

I'll get the bass done in a few days.
What are you talking about? I'm doing bass to this one...

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Then get it done! :p

Anyways, DH, when are you gonna record Killing in the Name? I need a backing track before I starting recording for real. :thumb: I know you'll be able to get it done quick, but just wanted to let you know I'm ready whenever.

[Duncster]

I'll try and do bass tomorrow. It will be done by the end of the weekend.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Are you going to be playing along with DH's recording, or the original track?

DH said that he was going to re-record it, but if you're eager, you should play along with RATM's original version. :thumb:

After that, I'll throw the wah section into the mix.

[static]

ill probably do KITN sometime tomorrow, or maybe right now, as it is really simple and fun to play. im gonna re-re-record BoP too because its a little out of time, but if thats not really a big factor then i wont.

http://s43.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3N7ATHDPNL89W1ROOLD1BDLUMF

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Do it now! :D Then, when I get back from work, I could take a hack at the guitar section for it.

(Grr, work)

[static]

http://s45.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1DMJ2NKIEBCBH1JZLPI3H8UK9O

Killing in the Name. No Comment.

[Thor]

What are you talking about? I'm doing bass to this one...
Sorry, forgot about that. I'm still doing vocals, right?

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

617-You're doing bass on Killing in the Name, right? When are you going to be able to do that? What about vocals?

We could do this 2 ways-Now that I have the drum for Killing in the Name, I could start recording it, then upload it so that you could finish the song, or you could do the bass, send it to me, I could guitarize it, then you could record the vox.

You pick. :D

[Thor]

I can record bass tomorrow, then you can do guitar, then I'll do vocals. I'll have it ready by tomorrow night hopefully.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I can record bass tomorrow, then you can do guitar, then I'll do vocals. I'll have it ready by tomorrow night hopefully.

So who will be mixing all of this? I can do it if noone else was planning on it. I've become quite adept at using Goldwave and Audacity. :cool:

60% downloaded on Killing in the Name. :upset: Dialup..

[DonMancini]

Kinda out of topic, but holy crap I can't believe this thread still exists :o

[Darkness]

Rage definatly deserves their own thread, but I fear that rage has been talked about to death and there is little topics left for us to discuss...

[6stringslinger]

what type of recorders are you using?

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

DoG-True. The only reason I ressurected this thread was because of the cover competition. :p

6 string slinger-I'm using a ten dollar computer mic. Our drummer is using a computer mic as well. Not sure about 617 or dunc though. :p

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Metalhead, how comes the recording?

/hopes Metalhead is actually online

I tried playing to DH's drum track of KitN...It was hard, because there are quite a few subtle tempo changes that throw off my playing a bit. :-/ Hopefully the added bassline will even this out.

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

Has anybody updated the Covers thread with telling them about Vietnow?

[Duncster]

So I don't have the final drum track? Thats fine, I'll wait. I'm using a Line-in cable lol

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Who's doing what for Vietnow? I'll update it now. Is it i like metal on guitar, Dunc on bass, Demon Hunter on Drums, and Metalhead 617 doing vox?

Dunc-post 908.

[Duncster]

Oh... So we are using the drum track previously layed down for BoP? lol
Yeah I'll do bass for vietnow.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

No, that's version 2 I think. I'll ask him tomorrow to redo it if it's that rough. If it's not too bad, just record using it.

I'll update my post in the competition thread now.

[Duncster]

Alrighty then.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

updated and bump'd.

So, will you be recording tomorrow, Dunc? If you have the time, why dont you lay down the bass on Vietnow and Bulls on Parade? That is, if you have the time. That way, Demon Hunter could have something to go off of for Vietnow.

[Lateralias]

Anyone know what Down Rodeo is exactly about? It's been the RATM song of the month for me. :)

[Werny]

I just assume, from the line "these people ain't seen a brown-skinned man since their grandparents bought one" that its about racism in early America.

[Thor]

Yeah, it's about slavery.

[lunch998]

"Make a move and plead the 5th cause you can't plead the 1st."

That's a great song.

[Thor]

Most people say that it is the best song off of EE, but I'm still convinced that Wind Below is the best. Read this and tell me the song isn't awesome.

Flip this capital eclipse
Tha vocal tone has got 'em sweatin' their own apocalypse
Yes, rebel of tha grains stand masterless
Tha masked ones cap one
NAFTA comin' with tha new disaster

...awesome.

[lunch998]

You didn't even get to my favorite part:

Tha slave driver saliva, one night power turns
Them devils mouths dry, now Mexico burns
So here they come one by one them killers of the new frontier
Occupy, causin' fear, come on

[Thor]

Well I could have posted the whole song, but I didn't. Everything in that song is perfect.

[lunch998]

You made me put on Evil Empire now.

[Thor]

Same here, you made me put on Down Rodeo. I haven't listened to that song in forever.

For me, listening to RATM isn't just listening to music. I surrender to it. :thumb:

[lunch998]

It used to consume me pretty much, then I grew out of them a bit. I don't listen to them as much as I should anymore.

[Thor]

All my band wants to do now is RATM covers, so I'm listening to them nonstop now. I take pride in knowing almost every RATM song on bass. I can play the first 3 albums and I only don't know 5 tracks off of Renegades. I can play all of their unreleased tracks as well. :thumb:

[lunch998]

That's awesome man. I started drumming when I was a huge Rage fan so I usually tried to learn their songs. Now I can play most of them, I think, though I haven't tried in a while.

[Robdrummer]

I'm in Metal_Head_617's band, and we play a lot of RATM songs. We can play Calm Like A Bomb, Testify, Bombtrack, Killing in the Name, and Bulls on Parade.

We are still working on tons more.

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

Down Rodeo is good, but is Roll Right amazing or what.

[Robdrummer]

Roll Right seemed like a rather mediocre track to me. Most likely because it just followed Wind Below, the best song on the album.

[lunch998]

I really like Roll Right. Especially the ending.

[Endless Obsession]

I'm in Metal_Head_617's band, and we play a lot of RATM songs. We can play Calm Like A Bomb, Testify, Bombtrack, Killing in the Name, and Bulls on Parade.

We are still working on tons more.

Now start writing your own music cause playing only covers gets you nowhere.

[Jake_badass_bassist]

Rage are one of my favorite bands, for me there self titled album is the best, tons of classic tracks on it..

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

All my band wants to do now is RATM covers, so I'm listening to them nonstop now. I take pride in knowing almost every RATM song on bass. I can play the first 3 albums and I only don't know 5 tracks off of Renegades. I can play all of their unreleased tracks as well. :thumb:
That's impressive. Over this past X-mas break, I decided that I would learn the S/T in it's entirety. I stopped at Killing in the Name. :p

Any news on your recordings?

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

I really like Roll Right. Especially the ending.

I love the main riff with the feedback alot, but the funky verse part is ****ing amazing

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I've been thinking a lot recently about this whole cover deal, and I am going to request a change of plans...Can we do Bombtrack instead of KitN? I know Demon Hunter probably won't have any preference, but 617, would you mind?

Here are 2 reasons
1. From a cover standpoint, I personally could do a better job on Bombtrack because there is lots of room to improv, throughout the entire song. Covers are supposed to be orginal, right? (See Renegades)

2. I like playing Bombtrack more. :D


If you guys would rather do KitN, that's fine, but I'm just saying that Bombtrack would be funner for me. We do have more than a month to get this done, so we could do KitN later on down the road, but I'd prefer to do Bombtrack instead. Gimme some feedback guys.

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

^^^
...Funner... :lol: :lol:

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Hows that funny?

[Kickflip_Burrito]

I thought there was a specific thread for people wanting to do covers with other users?

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

That thread is just for giving Metal Head the lineups, songs, etc..

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

I was on azlyrics.com and they had lyrics for original lyrics for Testify and People Of The Sun. Does anybody have those songs?????????

The reason I was laughing is because funner isn't a word, it's 'more fun'. ;)

[static]

argh, bombtrack is wicked annoying on drums. the hi-hat part is all dynamic-y and weird.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Ok. KitN it is.

:D*











































*:upset:


i like metal- Sometimes it sort of sucks to be wrong (http://webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=funner&x=20&y=12) :p

[Hedgedive]

I'd have to say my favorite album is Evil Empire (we are still discussing album preferences right?), followed closely by self-titled.

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

Hey don't blame me, teachers and my dad always told me there was no such word as 'funner'. Wow, I'm gonna start using that word a lot more often, it looks funner than other words.

[lucas12345]

I like battle of la the best. there are some kick *** songs on that album that they sadly dont play on the radio.

[Janitor]

argh, bombtrack is wicked annoying on drums. the hi-hat part is all dynamic-y and weird.
If you just keep the hi-hats slightly open it sounds passable.

[Lateralias]

You guys think Brad Wilk is an underrated drummer? I think he's had his good moments..

[Kickflip_Burrito]

Battle of Los Angeles is my favourite RATM album, then Self-titled then Evil Empire then Renegades.

I didn't enjoy Renegades.

[Darkness]

You guys think Brad Wilk is an underrated drummer? I think he's had his good moments..
Brad Wilks best performance to date is on the new Audioslave album. We see a lot more fills and stuff like Man or Animal has some great snare work.

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

I think its good that a lot of their songs aren't played on the radio.

[Duncster]

I went to record BoP but I didn't. I realized I wasn't sure about a few things.
1) are we using flat tuning like the actual song is in? Probably an obvious question but I just wanted to make sure.
2) Do you want me to make up a new solo or just play it the same way Tim does?
3) Since Demon didn't use a metronome the drums speed up and slow down a bit and the guitar breaks are a bit to long. I was wondering if you wanted me to make a bassline to the song and have Demon play to that since the poor guy doesn't have a metronome to play to.

I'm also gonna record a rough version of Vietnow for Demon to follow!

[static]

I went to record BoP but I didn't. I realized I wasn't sure about a few things.
1) are we using flat tuning like the actual song is in? Probably an obvious question but I just wanted to make sure.
2) Do you want me to make up a new solo or just play it the same way Tim does?
3) Since Demon didn't use a metronome the drums speed up and slow down a bit and the guitar breaks are a bit to long. I was wondering if you wanted me to make a bassline to the song and have Demon play to that since the poor guy doesn't have a metronome to play to.

I'm also gonna record a rough version of Vietnow for Demon to follow!

1.yes
2.either way is fine
3.sure

[Thor]

Battle of Los Angeles is my favourite RATM album, then Self-titled then Evil Empire then Renegades.

I didn't enjoy Renegades.
I can understand why you didn't like Renegades, it was definetly RATM's weakest effort. BoLA seemed kind of weak in some parts of the album (Born As Ghosts, New Millenium Homes) whereas the self titled and Evil Empire never lose their power.

...at least that is how I see it.

[lunch998]

I really like New Millenium Homes actually.

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

I can understand why you didn't like Renegades, it was definetly RATM's weakest effort. BoLA seemed kind of weak in some parts of the album (Born As Ghosts, New Millenium Homes) whereas the self titled and Evil Empire never lose their power.

...at least that is how I see it.

I agree, and nice pic

[static]

BOLA>RATM>EE>Renegades

[Darkness]

Yeah, I ment to ask. Can I change the solo from Bulls? Like just the rhythm?

[static]

Yeah, that'd be better so it will be more of your own work rather than an exact replica.

[Thor]

I agree, and nice pic
Thanks, I pity the fool who doesn't like my avatar. :thumb:

How's the cover coming, guys?

[Darkness]

Yeah, that'd be better so it will be more of your own work rather than an exact replica.
Alright, good. I also ment to ask if we were playing Eb but that got answered...

Should we even bother going to Eb? then I have to undo my locking nut and stuff...

But I could I guess.

[Thor]

Play the song like they play live and play in standard tuning. It sounds cooler that way.

[Bass_ment]

Ok I think this thread needs a little more of a kickstart again so I'm gonna see if I can do it.
Now everyone knows Killing in the Name, Guerilla Radio, Sleep Now in the Fire, but what do you believe to be some of Rage's most underrated songs? and why do you believe them to be underrated?

For me it would be:
Ashes in the Fall - The lyrics are amazing, the structure is very different from many of their songs, and Zack's whispers at the end are pretty eerie.

Darkness - most people haven't heard this one but its got a cool jazz pre-verse, spoken word elements, and an awesome melodic solo. Powerful song.

No Shelter - This was an Australia only bonus track for BOLA, got an awesome groove and some very cool lyrics.

Without a Face - Though its pretty run of the mill Rage material I really think it stands out on EE. Gotta love the live version too.

Please post your favourite underrated Rage songs

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

Definatly Roll Right. Another would be Year Of Tha Boomerang.

I LOVE EE.

[Darkness]

Almost all rage songs are underrated, sept for a lot of BOLA which had some really crappy songs if you ask me.

[6stringslinger]

I am sure this question has been asked probably 100X but what is Zack doing now? Was he supposed to come out with an album? Has he become a hermit or what?I heard a song called "We want it all" was that a new band or what??I think he also had a website...

[Darkness]

Browse the thread please.

[Darkness]

Don't foget about "March Of Death"...

[Thor]

Almost all rage songs are underrated, sept for a lot of BOLA which had some really crappy songs if you ask me.
Agreed. Born as Ghosts and New Millenium Homes are just plain boring if you ask me. They seem like filler tracks.

[lunch998]

New Millenium Homes - Underated because I don't think anyone likes it but me.
Township Rebellion, Fistfull of Steel, Revolver, Voice of the Voiceless, and a few others.

[static]

Snakecharmer-Great snare work and often overlooked being between BoP and Down Rodeo

[lunch998]

Snakecharmer-Great snare work and often overlooked being between BoP and Down Rodeo

That track sort of annoys me until the ending, which is great.

[Thor]

Snakecharmer-Great snare work and often overlooked being between BoP and Down Rodeo
Snakecharmer is an excellent song, but I'm still convinced that Wind Below is the greatest. If you can convince me otherwise, I will be very impressed.

[static]

Hmm, i always liked the entire song, its probably my favorite off of Evil Empire

[Thor]

Evil Empire seems to always be the most talked about album by RATM on the forums.

[static]

....and yet its my 3rd favorite. I always liked BOLA the most. I cant find a weak song on it, even Born as Ghosts has some nice parts in it.

[Darkness]

Wind Below is amazing... The solo, the riffs, the slow part the solo leads into then the explosive outro are incredible.

[Thor]

....and yet its my 3rd favorite. I always liked BOLA the most. I cant find a weak song on it, even Born as Ghosts has some nice parts in it.
Read my post above and you can see my thoughts on BOLA.

Self titled will always be #1, as it is my favorite album of all time.

[static]

I like BOLA more because it holds Voiceless, Ashes, Guerilla, Fire, and Bomb, whereas S/T holds Enemy, Bullet, Killing, and Rebellion. S/T is a veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery close 2nd.

[SmashingPumpkin]

The self-titled is my favorite, most definitely. Ah, I love RATM. I wish they were still around, but I also enjoy AUdioslave a bunch, so it's all good.

[Thor]

I like BOLA more because it holds Voiceless, Ashes, Guerilla, Fire, and Bomb, whereas S/T holds Enemy, Bullet, Killing, and Rebellion. S/T is a veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery close 2nd.
Don't forget Freedom, RATM's best track.

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

^^^
Yeah, Freedom is amazing.
I love how explosive it is, and the very climatic ending. Blows me away every time. :thumb:

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

....and yet its my 3rd favorite. I always liked BOLA the most. I cant find a weak song on it, even Born as Ghosts has some nice parts in it.

Born as Ghosts is one of my faves off of BoLA. Timmy C's 'bassline' in that song is fricken awesome. He's the only musician that I've seen actually take advantage of Digitech's 'signature' Ya-Ya effect. He implement's it quite well.

[Duncster]

Play the song like they play live and play in standard tuning. It sounds cooler that way.
Sounds good!

[Thor]

^^^
Yeah, Freedom is amazing.
I love how explosive it is, and the very climatic ending. Blows me away every time. :thumb:
FREEDOM! FOR MUMIA! :thumb:

The best part in that song when they play it live is when the band pauses after the bass and drums do their little thing. Then Zack says "anger is a gift!", then the mayhem insues. It gets me every time.

Freedom is the best song ever made. Ever. **** Stairway to Heaven. :thumb:

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

I can't stand the live version on "Live at the Olympic". It's too drawn out in my opinion but the almbum version blows me away every time.

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

Well 1,000th post :thumb: glad its finnally here! So little progress made on 'Vietnow' but hey! Hows it coming for the rest of you doing Vietnow?

[Thor]

I can't stand the live version on "Live at the Olympic". It's too drawn out in my opinion but the almbum version blows me away every time.
Timmy C's bass tone when they play Freedom on that DVD is what I consider to be the best bass tone ever.

[Endless Obsession]

My favorite part of freedom is right after the solo when Zakks yells out and then Tom plays that riff.

Just overall an amazing song. Easy to cover too.

[Thor]

My favorite part of freedom is right after the solo when Zakks yells out and then Tom plays that riff.

Just overall an amazing song. Easy to cover too.
Yeah, my band is working on covering it right now. We don't have a vocalist, but it still sounds pretty cool.

[Darkness]

Is all the world jails and churches?


/random lyric

Post a random lyric that you think kicks ***. :D

[Thor]

Brother, did you forget your name?
Did you lose it one the war playing tic tac toe?
Yo, check the diagonal, three brothers gone, cmon
Doesn't that make it three in a row?
--Freedom

:thumb:

[Bass_ment]

A mass of nameless at the oasis
That hides the graves beneath the master's hill
Are buried for drinking
The rivers water while
Shackled to the the line at the empty well
--Ashes in the Fall

P.S. Metal_Head_617, Freedom truly is the greatest song ever.

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

Timmy C's bass tone when they play Freedom on that DVD is what I consider to be the best bass tone ever.
I got the CD and Timmy C. really showed up on that album. Grade A stuff :thumb:

"NAFTA comin' with the new disaster"
-Wind Below

[cliff solos for all]

i got there album

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Yesterday, I finally picked up Renegades. I am actually liking it better than Evil Empire atm, but I'll give you guys a fuller interpretation after a few listens.

Also, I didn't realize this, but on my computer I had How I Could Just Kill a Man. I knew it was on there, but I didn't know it was a live version. :p

[CaptainWaits]

Yesterday, I finally picked up Renegades. I am actually liking it better than Evil Empire atm, but I'll give you guys a fuller interpretation after a few listens.

Also, I didn't realize this, but on my computer I had How I Could Just Kill a Man. I knew it was on there, but I didn't know it was a live version. :p

That's cool. I find Renegades to be a failry good album by RATM, doesn't compare to their Self-Titled or Evil Emprie IMO though. Pistol Grip Pump is a wicked song on that CD :)

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Pistol Grip Pump was the other song off of Renegades that I had heard previous to today. The guy that got me into guitar told me to download that song and learn it, due to it's extreme simplicity. I did not know how simple until I listened to it. 3 effing notes. :p

[CaptainWaits]

Still a great tune though

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

One of my faves off of Renegades. So far, my favorites are PGP, as previously mentioned, How I Could Just Kill a Man(probably my favorite bassline out of all RATM songs) and Microphone Fiend.

[Endless Obsession]

MY cd has an error on it. When i put it on my computer is said "How Could I Just Kill a Man".

[DuncMaster]

So does mine :confused:

[spankyoplank]

mine doesn't

[Shaft!]

My favorite tracks from Renegades were their covers of "In My Eyes", "The Ghost of Tom Joad" and "Maggie's Farm". I liked the bassline from "How I Could Just Kill A Man", though. I confess I haven't seen the DVD "Live at the Grand Olympic Auditorium" yet...but I've heard the C.D.(and the bonus tracks at the end of Renegades) and I like how Cypress Hill helps out.
I couldn't stand their cover of "Street Fighting Man" though.

[DuncMaster]

.(and the bonus tracks at the end of Renegades)

what bonus tracks?

[static]

the aussie version of Renegades contains 3? extra tracks from the live at the grand olympid audiotorium DVD, only converted into music instead of video

[DuncMaster]

Oh, news to me. are they hidden tracks?

[static]

no, theyre tracks 13,14, and 15

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

Isn't the cover of the aussie one green and red instead of blue and red???

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Um, on my version, it's red and green, but it says it's from Japan. :confused:

And it does have Kick out the Jams/How I Could Just Kill a Man live.

[Darkness]

^Yes.

[fadetoblack89]

Self Titled

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

^^^
What are you talking 'bout?