**Rage Against The Machine**

[IAJP]

I like Evil Empire,
If not as much as the debut or Battle Of Los Angeles.:)

[munky_magik]

IMO, Evil Empire>ST>Renegades>Battle of L.A

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I really like Revolver. "Hey revolver, don't mothers make good fathers?" Cool lyric I'd say. Nice riff as well. First riff I learned off of Evil Empire, if I'm remembering correctly. I also really like the breakdown right before the solo, where it's just random string mutes. :P

[IAJP]

I'd probbably say Renegades is the worst, out of the other 3 I couldn't choose a favourite.
By worst I mean "not the best" if you understand..

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

For me: Rage Against the Machine, Battle of Los Angeles, Evil Empire, and I haven't heard Renegades. :upset: Maybe I'll get it off of Amazon or something.

[munky_magik]

I think I do. It's not a bad album, just not as good as the rest in your opinion?

EDIT: to Jp

[CaptainWaits]

I'd probbably say Renegades is the worst, out of the other 3 I couldn't choose a favourite.



Nah, Renegades isn't all that great, but Battle of Los Angeles is the worst of RATM's work

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Why? Just wondering.

[IAJP]

I think I do. It's not a bad album, just not as good as the rest in your opinion?

EDIT: to Jp
Hmm..
I dunno, Battle of L.A is a more enjoyable listen.
Renegades is a bit slapdash if you understand.
I like the song Renegades Of Funk though,

[munky_magik]

:eek: of the 531 replies in here, 76 are mine.

and by 531 I do of course mean 530.

[spankyoplank]

I really liked battle of LA, i think renegades was their worst although it still kicked ***. By the way, i was in camden (London) the other week and i picked up this 'Civilian demos' cd. Its pretty cool and its got a good few which audioslave never did, i just wanted to know if its really common in the US or not and whether anyone else has got it or if it really really rare and i got a really good bargain. (for anyone who's totally lost at the moment, Civilian is what audioslave called themselves before they called themselves that). My favorite track of it is monstereo, i can't believe that didn't make into audioslave.

[CaptainWaits]

Why? Just wondering.


IMO it was a decline from Evil Empire and the S/T, which were top of the list albums. BoLA still is a good album, it just doesn't compare to the other 2, and Renegades as well for that matter. The singles were poorly done by the band, and the sound of RATM just wasn't as good as they were before.

This could be argued with, and I'm sure it will be, but BoLA could've been a lot better if they just took more time and put more quality into it. (still a good album though, don't get me wrong there)

[CaptainWaits]

:eek: of the 531 replies in here, 76 are mine.

and by 531 I do of course mean 530.

14 are mine :lol:

[IAJP]

9 are mine :eek:
I like RATM so I deserve that many :)

[munky_magik]

14 are mine :lol:
I whore this thread way too much for my own good :upset:

[CaptainWaits]

I whore this thread way too much for my own good :upset:

:lol:

I guess you do, but don't worry, I got about 200 in the Community thread

[bomber]

in my opinion rage against the machine never beat there first album it's just so brilliant. I'm not saying there other albums are rubbish just that they don't match up to it.

[munky_magik]

:lol:

I guess you do, but don't worry, I got about 200 in the Community thread

My coummunity thread postcount = 529 :p

[IAJP]

Does anyone like "Sleep Now In The Fire"
I have a live version of that..and...:amaze:

[CaptainWaits]

My coummunity thread postcount = 529 :p

:eek:

geez, so where do ur other 900 go too??

EDIT: scratch out the 900 and put in 1400

[IAJP]

I have never posted in the comunity thread..:(.
I'd probbably just be told to go away.

[bomber]

I have never posted in the comunity thread..:(.
I'd probbably just be told to go away.

same here i'd probably be told to go away and flamed :upset:

[IAJP]

same here i'd probably be told to go away and flamed :upset:
*Holds bomber's hand*
The reason I don't want to post is because the thread allready has so many posts, I'd be a n00b to the thread..which I can't be bothered with really..

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Nah, Renegades isn't all that great, but Battle of Los Angeles is the worst of RATM's work
Nah, BoLA is better than Renegades.

I have 14 posts in this thread :cool:

[Darkness]

BOLA was my first rage album, and I loved it at the time. It just got "old" faster then the others. Theres just not as many good songs on it, the first 6 are amazing 7 sucks 8 was ok 9 sucked 10 was ok then 11 and 12 kicked major *** but they lose to many points from 7-10. These are just my thoughts though.

[i am the robots]

Battle Of LA is their best, followed by S/T (IMO)

[DonMancini]

I've had freedom in my head for like a week now :( I need a cure.

Or maybe not, this rocks.

[CaptainWaits]

I've had freedom in my head for like a week now :( I need a cure.

Or maybe not, this rocks.


Listen to "Take the Power Back", then you could have an even better Rage song stuck in your head :thumb:

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Does anyone like "Sleep Now In The Fire"
I have a live version of that..and...:amaze:

Great song. I'd say one of my top 3 off of Battle of Los Angeles. Along with Testify and Ashes in the Fall.

Anybody diggin the double octave whammy effect on Ashes in the Fall? :cool: Very cool.

[Janitor]

Ashes In The Fall is one of my favorite songs by anyone. Blasting the last minute and a half of that at full volume through headphones is great, it's so aggresive.

[opeth_oasis]

Originally Posted by Animosity_62
Listen to "Take the Power Back", then you could have an even better Rage song stuck in your head :thumb:

yeah take the power back is a great song, i love the bass line, too bad RHCP ripped it off in by the way. My fav Rage song=Bulls On Parade, awesome riff and sum pissed off lyrics. (wearing Rage Shirt Now)

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

yeah take the power back is a great song, i love the bass line, too bad RHCP ripped it off in by the way. My fav Rage song=Bulls On Parade, awesome riff and sum pissed off lyrics. (wearing Rage Shirt Now)

I really need a RATM shirt. I have a couple Floyd shirts, and a Tool shirt on the way.

[opeth_oasis]

i found it easy to get, finding an opeth shirt is hard for me

[DonMancini]

Listen to "Take the Power Back", then you could have an even better Rage song stuck in your head :thumb:
Tss, as if I've never heard it :p

And Take the power back doesn't stick in my head as easily as other songs do for some reason.

[IAJP]

At the moment my favourite Rage song has to be "Know Your Enemy"
Allthough it was written a while ago, the lyrics still actually mean something.

[Ap0calipZ]

i only got Battle Against LA and Evil Empire

but i think there both v.cool
but Evil Empire is my fav its one of those albums ive listened to so much i can tell what the next track is (not the name, just what it goes like)

i really think i need to hear more RATM

[DonMancini]

i only got Battle Against LA and Evil Empire

but i think there both v.cool
but Evil Empire is my fav its one of those albums ive listened to so much i can tell what the next track is (not the name, just what it goes like)

i really think i need to hear more RATM
I order you to leave your household and purchase self titled immediately.

You will be blown away.

[munky_magik]

Your next buy should definatly be their S/T. It's an outstanding album.

[Arucard]

'They dont gotta burn the books they just remove them, now arms warehouses fill as quick as the cells, rally round your family, pocket full of shells.'

Bulls on Parade.

:)

[Thor]

I order you to leave your household and purchase self titled immediately.

You will be blown away.
I do as well. That is the best album I have ever purchased.

[CaptainWaits]

i found it easy to get, finding an opeth shirt is hard for me


The store I get my shirts carries loads of Opeth shirts, but I'd never buy one of them, cuz it's Opeth

[Apocalyptic Raids]

:lol:

[HempKnight]

I thought it was really cool to hear maynerd's voice on know your enemy, it was a nice way to combine probally the 2 greatest bands to come out of the 90's

[Darkness]

Yeah, not to mention Zack on Tools song "Bottom" (live) or their "Revolution" track.

[Darkness]

What do you guys think of the collab with cypress hill on GOA?

[CaptainWaits]

What do you guys think of the collab with cypress hill on GOA?

It was pretty cool to see those dudes with RATM, there probably the only "rappers" I like, so I thought it was cool

[Maxen]

I love RATM's power.

Brad Wilk is on my Top 5 Favourite Drummers List.

As for my favourite album, don't have one, when it comes to RATM. :thumb:

Audioslave are also good, but of course, don't have that power nor energy, drumming is pretty lazy on the self titled album.


Chris Cornell sounds horrible live. :upset:

[paco999]

Tool and Ratm playing together live OMFG

thats awesome i gotta listen to that.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Tool and Ratm playing together live OMFG

thats awesome i gotta listen to that.

Where'd you hear that?! :confused: Is there a DVD of this somewhere?

[opeth_oasis]

Originally Posted by Animosity_62
The store I get my shirts carries loads of Opeth shirts, but I'd never buy one of them, cuz it's Opeth

hehe get me one:wave:

[JH LU KH RT]

The store I get my shirts carries loads of Opeth shirts, but I'd never buy one of them, cuz it's Opeth


Where do u buy your shirts?

[CaptainWaits]

Where do u buy your shirts?


I place called "Churisma" in downtown Calgary Alberta in Canada, most likely where you're not

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

You can find em a lot of places. Hot Topic, dare I say, would probably have some RATM shirts. The sacrifice there would be the fact that you would have to wade through dozens of emo bitches to get to one. :rolleyes:

[opeth_oasis]

:lol:

What do you think of Zack De La Rocha's solo career? I havent heard any of it, anyone give me some good songs or if it is even worth getting?

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

As far as rap goes, it's not bad, but compared to RATM, it's nothing. Check out "March of Death." it's the only thing I've heard from him.

[Darkness]

Where'd you hear that?! :confused: Is there a DVD of this somewhere?

The bottom track is a bit harder to come by, but the know your enemy with maynard (live to) can be found at http://funkblast.com/

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I know, Maynard is on the studio version of Know Your Enemy, so that's nothing new, sadly.

[Darkness]

Well the dude was talking about tool with ratm and thats tool with ratm.

[opeth_oasis]

Originally Posted by kombucha mushroom mofo
As far as rap goes, it's not bad, but compared to RATM, it's nothing. Check out "March of Death." it's the only thing I've heard from him.

its rap? :confused:

[Darkness]

Yes, thats what his solo career is based on...Though I guess you could argue that this is some kinda rock song. But its a D.J not a band.

[CaptainWaits]

I just realized how cool "Year of tha Bommerang" is

[Apocalyptic Raids]

I remember i took me a while to start liking that song, its pretty good, but not on of my favs

[alifraser]

i need help, does anyone know who the vocalist is on the song
"Good morning Vietnam"? its not ZDLR is it... and was this song on the "hackers" soundtrack?

[alifraser]

okay that was really stupid, of course its not zack, sounds nothing like him at all! but who is it...?

[DuncMaster]

How about you name your top 5 Rage songs...

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Killing In The Name
Vietnow
Calm Like A Bomb
Down Rodeo
Born Of A Broken Man

[CaptainWaits]

Take the Power Back
Bulls on Parade
People of the Sun
Bullet in the Head
Vietnow

[Triven]

Bulls on Parade
Testify
Pistol Grip Pump
Killing in the Name
Fistful of Steel

[BAss_MaN69]

rage own over all

[DuncMaster]

**** right...

Know Your Enemy
Killing In The Name
Take The Power Back
Wake Up
Guerilla Radio

I actually found it really hard to get down to 5, so many amazing songs.

[Bass_ment]

if you put a gun to my head and made me choose ONLY 5 songs:

Freedom
Bullet in the Head
No Shelter
Without a Face
Wake Up

btw I finally found the Live and Rare cd. It was hella expensive but its really a true gem for the Rage fanatic.
Great b-sides, amazing live tracks with Morello imrov solos, an appearance by Chuck D. Its just fantastic.

[DuncMaster]

Where the hell did you get that?

[DuncMaster]

Gimme Gimme! =P

[Six Foot Revolver]

Sleep now in the fire
Bombtrack
Ashes in the Wake
Renegades of funk
Know your enemy

[DuncMaster]

Ashes In The Fall **

[Bass_ment]

Where the hell did you get that?

A small independant music store in The Haugue, Netherlands called Rocky Road. It was a tiny place with some grey-haired dude listening to Dream Theater on a huge system.
I was so surprised when I found it as I glanced throught the section marked RATM.
and now I am incredibly happy.

[zeppelin1432]

RATM's live performances dont sound that good. But i would still def. go and see them. I think the reason why they dont have good performances on stage is becuase of the the way it was caputered or soemthing...the audio just sounds blah...

[DuncMaster]

they're F*ckin mazin live man

[munky_magik]

RATM's live performances dont sound that good. But i would still def. go and see them. I think the reason why they dont have good performances on stage is becuase of the the way it was caputered or soemthing...the audio just sounds blah...

The sound isn't why they were great live. Try atmosphere and things along those lines. You can't capture it on a live recording which is why they don't apear to be very good.

[Danny Carey is GOD]

Evil Empire is a great album. However, i have found with RATM, i get a bit sick of them, alot faster than most of the music i listen to, so i don't listen to them much. However, there is always a time for Killing in the name :)

[DuncMaster]

Killing In The Name **

[Darkness]

During live performances in RATM I think timmy coulda turned the bass down a little...it almost drowns out everything else.

[3rdplanet]

Evil Empire is a great album. However, i have found with RATM, i get a bit sick of them, alot faster than most of the music i listen to, so i don't listen to them much. However, there is always a time for Killing in the name :)

I have no time for Killing in the Name anymore, my band me cover it so many times in so many different places, and my guitarist couldn't even play the solo!

Not the right effect, man I hate that song.

I do love RATM though.

[Darkness]

What...that post didn't make sense...

[Bartender]

During live performances in RATM I think timmy coulda turned the bass down a little...it almost drowns out everything else.

Any live performances I've seen, I really liked his bass.

[Arm_theHomeless]

i personally think everything they did was pure genius... RATM is and always will be my favorite band... they are the one band that if i get sick of my other 124 cds i can just pop in some RATM and be perfectly satisfied with what i hear... favorite album prolly Battle of L.A. for me... however favorite song is prolly No Shelter... or the Minor Threat cover they did on Renegades... the title is slipping my mind at the moment... but i liked it either way... by the way... my name Arm_theHomeless... Arm The Homeless is what is written on one of Tom Morello's guitars...

[Darkness]

I think everybody here is aware about that last statement but ok...

Anyways I love Timmy C. He's like my fav bass player, but he shoulda turned it down just a little...

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

I, admittedly, do not know a lot about Rage, and have heard most of their stuff on the radio...

Anyways.. What is the RATM song when Zach keeps mentioning "shotgun"?

Thanks. And don't fvckin' rip me!

[Darkness]

Down Rodeo

"I'm rollin down rodeo wit a shotgun, these people ain't seen a brown skin man since their grand parents bought one"

[DuncMaster]

Has anyone here got RATM tshirts or nethin? Shops never have them, always got gay ones like Blink 182 n well....jst pis* ones in general.

[Darkness]

i got a ratm shirt..its black with the red star that says rage against the machine

[Rasta Rocker]

i ordered one from the official site like a month ago, it still hasnt come yet...bastards. anyway it was the red "rise" shirt that had a red star, and i think its fidel castro and soem other person holding up an ak-47, and it says rage agaisnt the machine

[coddingtown]

i ordered one from the official site like a month ago, it still hasnt come yet...bastards. anyway it was the red "rise" shirt that had a red star, and i think its fidel castro and soem other person holding up an ak-47, and it says rage agaisnt the machine
che guevara perhaps?... :upset:

[lunch998]

Down Rodeo

"I'm rollin down rodeo wit a shotgun, these people ain't seen a brown skin man since their grand parents bought one"

That's a great song. "Can't waste a day when the night brings a hearse."

[BradyEB]

E F F E C T

Haha I'm really liking RATM's covers at the moment. They are finally growing on me.
Current Fav's
Microphone Fiend
**** Tha Police
How I could Just Kill A Man

[opeth_oasis]

hmm top 5 songs
Take The Power Back
Bulls On Parade
Calm Like A Bomb
Guerilla Radio
Ashes in The Fall

[Darkness]

Bulls
Ghost
Wake up
Ashes
Calm like a bomb

but these change often.

[6stringslinger]

Almost had a chance to see them in concert several years ago, But one of the Beastie Boys broke his collarbone or something so they called the tour off, A damm shame that they broke up

[DonMancini]

Yeah my favorites change often. Right now they are:

Bullet in the Head
Bulls on Parade
Revolver
Freedom
Born of a Broken Man

[IncMan]

Almost had a chance to see them in concert several years ago, But one of the Beastie Boys broke his collarbone or something so they called the tour off, A damm shame that they broke up

ohh man i feel you.. i would be pissed.. i want to see them in concert, just like the battle of mexico dvd=insane (as long as i dont get hit with any rubber bullets)

My fav songs by them
Freedom
township rebellion
sleep now in the fire
maria
Voice of the voiceless
*born of a broken man*
**** tha police
Bulls on Parade
People of the sun
Pistol grip pump

i hope they get back together but tom is in the Axis of Justice which i also like what they are doing

[Timidus]

I thought Killing in the Name of was a kickass song, and I was very happy when I heard it on GTA: San Andreas

[Thor]

I thought Killing in the Name of was a kickass song, and I was very happy when I heard it on GTA: San Andreas
They had How I Could Just Kill A Man as well, but it was the original version and not the RATM cover.

[BradyEB]

Best version of How I could Just Kill a Man IMO is live with cypress hill and RATM.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

During live performances in RATM I think timmy coulda turned the bass down a little...it almost drowns out everything else.
That seemed to be on the Grand Olympic Auditorium show, the other dvds i thought it was fine.

[opeth_oasis]

my fav rage songs atm-
Know your enemy!!!!!!1 (best riff in the world!!!!)
Down Rodeo (nice rage song, some nice guitar work)
Township Rebellion (i dont know why, but this song really appeals to me)
Vietnow (great agression throughout the song)
Freedom (nice riffage)
Take The Power Back (loving the bass riff and the guitar solo)

[Maxen]

I'm still learnin' how to play Township Rebellion on drums, it's a little confusing at first.

[Maxen]

Though my favourite at the moment is How I Could Just Kill A Man

Umph!

[Thor]

I'm still learnin' how to play Township Rebellion on drums, it's a little confusing at first.
I would imagine so. That verse sounds a bit tricky at times, with all that cowbell action going on. Good luck with it though.

[dislocated214]

Inside Out was pretty good too, I bought No Spiritual Surrender. If youre into hardcore/punk check them out Zach's old straight-edge hardcore band.
As for RATM being considered rap-rock, everyone who listens to rap at my school hates RATM and most people who listen to rock don't like them either because they hate the singer...I like them their very unique.
I don't understand why Zach/Tom are into Marxism/Communism/Anarchy and are on a major-label, do you think RATM would have been a better band without a major-label on their back? I do think so, but then again, this band was pretty big and I don't know what independent label they would've went on.

[dislocated214]

Which song was in the end of the Matrix, I haven't seen the Matrix in a while so I don't remember.

[Thor]

Inside Out was pretty good too, I bought No Spiritual Surrender. If youre into hardcore/punk check them out Zach's old straight-edge hardcore band.
As for RATM being considered rap-rock, everyone who listens to rap at my school hates RATM and most people who listen to rock don't like them either because they hate the singer...I like them their very unique.
I don't understand why Zach/Tom are into Marxism/Communism/Anarchy and are on a major-label, do you think RATM would have been a better band without a major-label on their back? I do think so, but then again, this band was pretty big and I don't know what independent label they would've went on.
People at your school suck. You should tell them that without RATM, nu-metal probably wouldnt be what it is today. They need to expand their horizons, anyways.

[Radionic]

My god, Rage are just about the best band in history!

[CaptainWaits]

Check this forum out

http://www.s9.invisionfree.com/Entertainment_Forums

It's been a week now since it was made, and there's 29 registered members right now, and they almost all came from mx. (mods, admins too). So check it out and have a look around, and sign up if you like it, cause there needs to be more people.

I thought I'd mention it here cuase your all good posters in here ;)

[DuncMaster]

Why did Rage not release songs like; Darkness, Clear the Lane, Autologic...?

These songs are excellent and contain some of the few amazing shred type solos Tom performs.

I think they were on the "Live & Rare" album but I'm not sure... Anyone know?

Anyways people need to start talkin in this o'l RATM Thread... :chug:

[Darkness]

Nice thread revivige... And those songs were on there demo tape. And Darkness was on the Crow soundtrack.

[DuncMaster]

Well someone had to revive it!! Neways why isnt this thread official? 26 pages long...

Neways can u get the demo tape from anywhere? or u just got to down the songs individually... They ROCK!

[munky_magik]

Well someone had to revive it!! Neways why isnt this thread official? 26 pages long...

Neways can u get the demo tape from anywhere? or u just got to down the songs individually... They ROCK!
It didn't need to be revived becuase no one was posting about RATM.
There aren't going to be any more official threads made, or threads made official either.

[DuncMaster]

maybe people will post now that they can see there is a Rage thread...

[Maxen]

He revived a thread.

WOW!

Who cares, get on with your life, jesus.

[powerofsuggestion]

self titled wins hands down

[roadiex]

Anyone think that the solo on Township Rebellion sounds like an old nintendo game?

[paco999]

I like the solo in Killing In the Name better.

[Magicaltroll]

Born Of A Broken Man is a great great song.
I like the guitar, its cool.

I only have self titled, BOLA, and Evil Empire

[GenuineImitation]

I like the solo in Killing In the Name better.



Yea, thats a fun solo to listen to and play

[pigonthewing82]

self titled wins hands down

Yeah I love that cd, the only one that beats it for me is Live at the Olympic Grand. Know Your Enemy is just awsome.

[Thor]

Yeah I love that cd, the only one that beats it for me is Live at the Olympic Grand. Know Your Enemy is just awsome.
Know Your Enemy seems to be the favorite around here. It is an awesome song, I must say. My favorite RATM song though is Freedom. No other band has a song that can end concerts with such energy. No one. Period.

[Darkness]

^ I donno.. Lateralus by Tool is pretty good for that..

[Thor]

^ I donno.. Lateralus by Tool is pretty good for that..
If you ask me, it didnt have as much energy as Freedom did. Plus RATM is my favorite band so that doesnt help either. :D

[pigonthewing82]

If you ask me, it didnt have as much energy as Freedom did. Plus RATM is my favorite band so that doesnt help either. :D

I love RATM's energy. The only rock band that has that much political energy done so well is MC5, hence the cover of Kick Out The Jams.

[Thor]

I love RATM's energy. The only rock band that has that much political energy done so well is MC5, hence the cover of Kick Out The Jams.
If you ask me, RATM kicked MC5's *** in terms of being a better band, and MC5 is awesome.

[pigonthewing82]

If you ask me, RATM kicked MC5's *** in terms of being a better band, and MC5 is awesome.

Hmmmmmm thats a hard one to say. I wouldn't go as far as saying they kicked their ***. They are two different bands really, but with the same energy, MC5 was always more of a punkish rock band and RATM is more of a rapish rock band (or rockish rap band, depending on the song).

[emericanapulse]

I actually enjoyed Renegades and self-titled...

[pigonthewing82]

I think their best work is on the Live at the Olymic Grand. Not just because of the good track list, but because well they were awsome live, if you listen to RATM I don't think I need to explain.

[RetiredAt21]

Live at the Olympic Grand Auditorium was amazing. I too think it was their best.

[SonorKen]

Rage is just an amazing band. Musically they get use thier sound to drive home the point they are trying to make and use alot of dynamics to achieve this. I would have LOVED to have been able to go to some of the "Super Shows" in the early 90's when Rage and Tool were not as big as they are to watch thier shows. Amazing band.

[DuncMaster]

" **** YOU I WON'T DO WHAT YA TELL ME!! "

How amazin would it have been to be there when Zack's screamin that!! ELECTRIC!! :thumb: =P

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

This might have been asked but, what company made the "Arm The Homeless" guitar?

[DuncMaster]

duno...but was "arm the homeless" not just painted on by Tom?....like the "Soul Power" one?

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

Yeah, I heard he wants to take it out of retirement.

[DuncMaster]

Beautiful. how much do you think he could get on eBay for that? lol

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

A few hundred thousand

[DuncMaster]

****, only got like 300 kwid in bank, wanna chip in? =P

[Six Foot Revolver]

Good to see this thread make a return :)

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

****, only got like 300 kwid in bank, wanna chip in? =P

Ive only got half that.

****, so close. :lol:

[DuncMaster]

"Good to see this thread make a return"

yep, happens every so often. :thumb:

The Neighbour Of The Beast

[Aberrationbass]

I thought Live at the Olympus was abit annoying because they miced the drums realy badly.
I also consider rage as more of a pollitical funk metal band.......

[Thor]

This might have been asked but, what company made the "Arm The Homeless" guitar?
The guitar that has the "Arm the Homeless" thing on it is an Ibanez guitar, if I am not mistaken.

[pigonthewing82]

The guitar that has the "Arm the Homeless" thing on it is an Ibanez guitar, if I am not mistaken.

I love that guitar :thumb:

[Thor]

I love that guitar :thumb:
My favorite guitar that Tom has is the black Fender Telecaster that he plays the songs in Drop D in. That guitar is awesome. And if any of you have the self titled DVD, you can see in the Killing in the Name live performance the silver Telecaster. That thing looks awesome.

[timskold214]

Ahhh... RATM awesome rebel band :thumb: Also easily one of my fav. bands.

[Endless Obsession]

Random but.

I think its hilarious how they list Tim Commerfords name differently in every album.

Tim Bob
YTim K
Timmy C

I dont know why i just find that so funny.500th post :chug:

[Sonic_Immersion]

My favorite guitar that Tom has is the black Fender Telecaster that he plays the songs in Drop D in. That guitar is awesome. And if any of you have the self titled DVD, you can see in the Killing in the Name live performance the silver Telecaster. That thing looks awesome.


Really?

I find fenders especially telecasters really ugly.

sorry but im a gibson man:p

[CaptainWaits]

I love that guitar :thumb:

As do I

[pigonthewing82]

As do I

Has he busted it out with Audioslave yet, because I haven't seen it.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

The guitar that has the "Arm the Homeless" thing on it is an Ibanez guitar, if I am not mistaken.
It was originally a custom, and he pretty much pulled it apart and re-did it from scratch. If my memory serves correctly.

Although Ibanez did make him a copy of it for back-up purposes.

EDIT: pigonthewing: I think he recorded the Self-titled audioslave album with it, but then retired it. (Although he did use on of the back-ups of it in concert once or twice)

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

[QUOTE=Vio-lence]It was originally a custom, and he pretty much pulled it apart and re-did it from scratch. If my memory serves correctly.QUOTE]

Actually he bought it at a pawn shop in Toronto, Ontario. :thumb:

[Bass_ment]

My personal favourite Morello guitar is the one he uses on the LATGOA DVD for Guerrilla Radio. Not sure of the make but I believe it has the Kenyan flag design on it.

[Thor]

My personal favourite Morello guitar is the one he uses on the LATGOA DVD for Guerrilla Radio. Not sure of the make but I believe it has the Kenyan flag design on it.
Actually he used the one with the Kenyan flag design for "How I Could Just Kill A Man" with Cypress Hill. He used a large hollow body for Guerrilla Radio.

What about the other cool guitar that he uses when he plays Clam Like A Bomb on the Grand Olympic DVD? Anyone else think that one looks cool?

[Bass_ment]

Actually he used the one with the Kenyan flag design for "How I Could Just Kill A Man" with Cypress Hill. He used a large hollow body for Guerrilla Radio.

What about the other cool guitar that he uses when he plays Clam Like A Bomb on the Grand Olympic DVD? Anyone else think that one looks cool?

I stand Corrected.

[GhOsT335]

to be fair with out any member of the band there is no RATM. evry1 made it work.

i like RATM bass lines-allways gd

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Really?

I find fenders especially telecasters really ugly.

sorry but im a gibson man:p

I think if everyone had the money, we would all be Gibson men. :p

[corporalclegg]

Gotta love Morellos solo on the b-side, "Darkness". And maybe "Sleep Now in the Fire" (live).

[corporalclegg]

I think if everyone had the money, we would all be Gibson men. :p
So true :thumb:
But Is still love my '76 fender tele, it sounds beautiful.

[Werny]

On a school camp, I was aimlessly walking around in the hall... and then I had a sudden urge to jump. Jump, and scream HOLY SHIAT!!! Jump and scream ROCK DIS MUTHAFUKKA!!!

I then went to one of my friends "man... what was that riff!" and he says "Know Your Enemy by RATM... you haven't heard it before?"

Went home.. downloaded song, and after about 3 listens it became extremely bland.

LAN, a few months later. "Oh come on, they're not bad. I'll get em". I got all studio albums except for Battle For L.A.

Listened to a few songs from self-titled. Same blandness.

Listened to Evil Empire. My mind was blown. One of the most excellent albums ever.

Now self-titled has grown a tad, and I enjoy them much more. Evil Empire can't be beat for fun and anger.

[Thor]

Listened to a few songs from self-titled. Same blandness.
You blasphemer! How can you say that about the self titled?! That was undoubtedly the best RATM record, and possibly the best record of the 90s.

[Endless Obsession]

Live at the Olympic Grand Auditorium was amazing. I too think it was their best.

I think Battle of Mexico city is better.

[pigonthewing82]

You blasphemer! How can you say that about the self titled?! That was undoubtedly the best RATM record, and possibly the best record of the 90s.

Meh he didn't exactly bad mouth it, and the rest of his post was very respectable to the band.

And that may not have been the best record to come out in the 90's, though I do belive it was the most original.

[36Dritzlfists]

I really wish Rage would get back together. I do miss their political messages, especially in a time when our politicians are soo full of shxt. America needs to hear the truth from Zach and Tom. Nowadays there are soo few bands that talk about the social and political issues.

[Darkness]

^ Yeah right... the mainstream is all about singing about politics now... look at Green Day. Though they will never be as radical as ratm was, at least their bring slight attention into politics..

[pigonthewing82]

I really wish Rage would get back together. I do miss their political messages, especially in a time when our politicians are soo full of shxt. America needs to hear the truth from Zach and Tom. Nowadays there are soo few bands that talk about the social and political issues.

I agree I mean at the very least I wished that Audioslave would have done somthing political, one of my dissopointments with the band.

But there are plenty of bands that talk about political issues, you just need to open up to Punk Rock (not that pop punk **** on the radio, I mean the real ****).

And eh I get the impression that Green Day put out that political cd just to "be a cool punk band and hate Bush" I don't think their hearts were truly into it. If they were they why no political message for so long when countless other punk bands have been fighting the good fight.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I think that their S/T was easily their best album as well...I know a lot of Rage fans think Evil Empire is their best work, but personally I'd say that's their weakest studio album of original material. I don't know about Rage being all that original...they were influential, and there's no two ways about that, but they got quite a lot of their act from Public Enemy in my opinion, albeit with heavier riffs, which the emphasis was normally on.

I agree about the S/T being the best, and Evil Empire being the weakest. From song to song, it's very incosistent. I really don't like Zack's vocals on that album. At some points, it sounds to me like he is trying to sing(lol) lower than he should. Also, it's definitely their rawest album musically. Morello's riffs are choppy, and he uses way too many effects, IMO.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Actually he bought it at a pawn shop in Toronto, Ontario. :thumb:
No, that was the creamy and black coloured guitar that he used on Calm Like A Bomb live.

From song to song, it's very incosistent. Morello's riffs are choppy, and he uses way too many effects, IMO.
That's how i view The Battle Of Los Angeles. I find that as Rage progressed in their career, Morello used more and more effects. Comparing the more heavily effected BOLA and the more straight forward s/t shows this.

[Werny]

You blasphemer! How can you say that about the self titled?! That was undoubtedly the best RATM record, and possibly the best record of the 90s.

It has grown on me to quite a large extent. I don't like Zack's screams though, especially the ones in Freedom.

But Evil Empire is a masterpiece, it is one of about 3 albums I have that doesn't have one weak track on it. Revolver and Down Rodeo are the best.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

You blasphemer! How can you say that about the self titled?! That was undoubtedly the best RATM record, and possibly the best record of the 90s.

It's blasphemist, and yes, he sure is. :p

And Vio-lence, about how you think Morello used more and more effects, I think the same thing, however on BoLA, I think he refined his riffs more. On Evil Empire they're just kind of, well like I said, choppy. I am finding it hard to explain what I am trying to say, but I hope you know what I mean.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

I think i get what your saying. Snakecharmer and Year of Tha Boomerang are quite choppy in parts.

[Werny]

It's blasphemist, and yes, he sure is. :p

I try! I TRY!!

There's just something more.... angry, heavy, spastic about Evil Empire. Zack's rapping sounds more proper, much more angry. The riffs are cleaner, there's much more variation in sound, and the drumming is CLASS.

I've made it my goal to get BOL.A and the Olympic DVD.

Listening to Down Rodeo now. Wow...

[Six Foot Revolver]

I dislike evil empire alot

[Apocalyptic Raids]

I love it, i rate only just behind self titled.

[Thor]

I dislike evil empire alot
I say again, you blasphemer! :thumb:

I would also like to ask this, is there anyone in here who actually likes Audioslave? I'm not asking if you think they are better than RATM, but I am just wondering if you think they are a good band. I just recently got into the, and actually I am listening to them right now.

[Endless Obsession]

I dislike evil empire alot

Thats what i first thought when i bought it. Then i kept listening to it now i love it. Bulls on parade, vietnow, revolver, people of the sun, tire me, down rodeo they are all sweet.

U should give it another try.

[DuncMaster]

My favorite guitar that Tom has is the black Fender Telecaster that he plays the songs in Drop D in. That guitar is awesome. And if any of you have the self titled DVD, you can see in the Killing in the Name live performance the silver Telecaster. That thing looks awesome.

Beautiful guitar=P, ive got all of the DVDs and i really like the self titled one coz its got lots of different performances from all over the world and of course it has videos.

I would also like to ask this, is there anyone in here who actually likes Audioslave? I'm not asking if you think they are better than RATM, but I am just wondering if you think they are a good band. I just recently got into the, and actually I am listening to them right now.

I like audioslave got their first album which is good. cant wait for their secong one tho, i read that its supposed to be really really good. Can't remember the name of it tho... what does everyone else think...

I think that their new album could be really good, so long as they cut out the excess sub-standard songs which they had on their last album.

They siad in the interview i read that they were tryin to avoid "filler Tracks"
i hope so. Should be good.

[Darkness]

Make sure you guys go vote for Morello in the new poll..

[Werny]

[audioslave rant]I don't know about the other fellows, but Cornell has become a total Pop star. I read his interview on the Kerrang! website, and he won't shut up aout how it's so positive and it'll be "one of the greatest rock records ever". I'm sure it'll be great, retard. When bands say that it usually means that they've come up with a bunch of songs that they've written JUST to get people's attention and become big rock stars. What happened to the publicity hating Cornell we used to know and love?[/audioslave rant]

Has anyone downloaded this?

http://sameoldtrip.com/rageagainstthemachine.htm

Their first offical performance.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Sweet, downloading now. Thanks.

[Rushki Smushki]

I don't mind Audioslave. I throw the cd on once in a while, but ofcourse the only reason i got into them was because of my RATM roots =}

Morello's tone (the big, phat sound he +timmy, get, everyone know what i'm talking about) goes well with the Cornello's voice. Besides, Cornello's a great singer hands down, so i usually don't care much for the lyrics and listen to that relation. Guitar and Voice.

But yeah, definetely like 'em...

But back to RATM, gotta love Evil Empire...so many good tracks on there that people just don't seem to give a chance. Down Rodeo, Boomerang, People of the Sun, Bulls, Without a Face, gah...almost the whole thing.

It's guessing thats its not liked because its overshadowed by other RATM classics, but that might just be me.

[TheMachineRagesOn]

No your right, evil empire is the most underrated album by far, i love it, its a more no nonsense, harder album (imo) and it annoys me that there are nearly no evil empire tracks on their dvd's.(besides bulls and p.o.t.s)

[ConnectiveTissue]

Thanks for showing me their first show! Much appreciated!
I agree with TheMachineRagesOn, it is underrated. I can't pick my favourite album however.

[Darkness]

No your right, evil empire is the most underrated album by far, i love it, its a more no nonsense, harder album (imo) and it annoys me that there are nearly no evil empire tracks on their dvd's.(besides bulls and p.o.t.s)

Sept Vietnow on the Self Titled DVD....

[Werny]

That's something that doesn't make me wanna get the DVDs. I'd die to see Revolver live.

[DuncMaster]

Is this download a full performance? ...If so - Amazin!

Cheers Werny!

[spankyoplank]

No your right, evil empire is the most underrated album by far, i love it, its a more no nonsense, harder album (imo) and it annoys me that there are nearly no evil empire tracks on their dvd's.(besides bulls and p.o.t.s)

I like Evil Empire but i don't think that it's as good as the others, Battle of LA often comes in for a lot of stick but i actually think it was their best, after a few listens.

[DuncMaster]

S/T>BOLA>EE/Renegades

Thats my order neway, but i think all the albums have their strong points.

love them all, but S/T is best, How often do u see an album with no bad songs? or in this case no "ok" songs...there all great tracks :thumb:

[Six Foot Revolver]

s/t>Renegades>BOLA>EE

is my order

[spankyoplank]

S/T>BOLA>EE

Thats my order neway, but i think all the albums have their strong points.

love them all, but S/T is best, How often do u see an album with no bad songs? or in this case no "ok" songs...there all great tracks :thumb:

I'd have to agree with you that S/T has consistent brilliance from start to finish (not one un-brilliant track) which would put it above the rest, except that my favorites are Calm Like a Bomb, Testify, War Within A Breath and Sleep Now in The Fire, which is why it's my favorite.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I like Audioslave...I thought their debut album was good up until halfway through when the songs just went downhill, and really brought down the standard of the album, but I think that their new album could be really good, so long as they cut out the excess sub-standard songs which they had on their last album. I wasn't all that impressed with the new song which I heard the other day though. To me it sounded like some of the blandest moment on the debut album.

Be Yourself is a very average track that sounds like it belongs in some kind of Disney movie. I liked the solo though. :D

[Thor]

s/t>Renegades>BOLA>EE

is my order
Why is Evil Empire so far back in your list of RATM albums? I always thought that EE was incredible.

[Werny]

Is this download a full performance? ...If so - Amazin!

Cheers Werny!

As far as I know, yes.

I haven't even downloaded it. I always get disconnected halfway through downloading the first song. **** dial-up!

[Permanent Solution]

I think Renegades is easily my least favorite and s/t is of course the best, the other two are pretty comparable imo.

[TheBlackAcidChildren]

Why is Evil Empire so far back in your list of RATM albums? I always thought that EE was incredible.
It's still incredible, it's just that the others are better. Imo anyway.
Self-titled album is definitely the most powerful, then I'd put them in order thus:
S/T>Battle Of LA>Renegades>Evil Empire

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Bump'd to talk about the competition.

Which song shall we do if it goes through?

I can currently play Killing in the Name of, Born of a Broken Man, Bombtrack, Sleep Now in the Fire, and a couple others. I'd be willing to learn most anything if you guys don't want to do any of those, minus 3 or so tracks off of the S/T due to technical difficulties.

[static]

bulls on parade. i love playing that song sooooo much. i can play any, but i like snitf and bop right now for playing. or maybe testify

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I'd prefer to do Killing in the Name. The effects are easy enough to pull off (just whammy) and it's fun to play. SNitF is harder because the solo is basically a one off solo. I could just tab it out instead of using feedback. Testify is also hard due to the extensive amount of effects and such, mainly in the verse and solo.

my vote goes for KitN, as of now. I could do BoP, but that would take some toying with for the solo. I'd have to try and work out the pickscratching on the solo. :p

[Endless Obsession]

Bombtrack?

[Darkness]

I can do bombtrack note for note. I could do bulls, but I'd have to get my friends wah. I can do that solo. I can also play settle for nothing (solo to) but nobody seems to like that song much.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I like Settle for Nothing, but it's mainly feedback, so it's not too exciting to play.

How about this- DoG, you can do the guitar for Bulls on Parade, and I'll do Killing in the Name.


However, before we get ahead of our selves, we need a Zack. Any ideas?

[Duncster]

Is their going to be a rage cover song thing? If there is I would play bass although I'm already doing Zeppelin. If noone else wanted to I would.

[Darkness]

Yeah vocals could be a problem... any politicaly charged mexican rappers?

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Yeah vocals could be a problem... any politicaly charged mexican rappers?

You would think I could find someone, being that I am from a town where the population is 3/4 hispanic, but I don't know any. :confused:

[static]

Me- drums on kitno and bop
jake-guitar on kitno
greed-guitar on bop
dunc-bass on kitno and bop

we need teh mexicanos

[Darkness]

I just nailed the bulls solo. I'm so happy.

Problem = My friends wah is acutually a bass wah, I'm ganna get it and try it out tomorrow, but it if it sounds really gay then maybe I'll record the parts of bulls that don't have then someone else could do that one part? Or whatever works.

[static]

ill do the wah part, as in the




--4-4--
--4-4--
--2-2--

[Darkness]

Alright thanks. Be sure to palm mute those muted strings. :D Lay down the drums first, then I'll do the guitar once I have the drums to play with. Then the bassist will the bass.

As for vocalist, there is someone I can ask who could do an extremely good job of it, but whether or not he'll agree to do it is a different story. But I'll ask.

[static]

is he on MX? cuz it would kinda defeat the purpose..

[Duncster]

I cover both those songs with my drummer :D

[Darkness]

Hes not on mx, but I just asked him and he said he'd do it. But he says hes ganna join mx anyway.

[Hot Darn!]

RATM are the reason I got into rock and metal.
S/T is without a doubt my favorite, followed by Battle of LA and then Evil Empire.
Tom Morrello is a somewhat underrated guitar player, and Zack deserves more credit for his lyrics.

"It's set up like a deck of cards
They're sending us to early graves
For all the diamonds
They'll use a pair of clubs to beat the spades"

From Freedom has to be my favorite lyrics from him. Ever try to decode the message?
I understand it to mean that the diamonds = rich people
Clubs= police who beat the poor/working class people(spades, also means shovels) at the rich's commands
:cool:

[Darkness]

Zacks best lyrics are on Evil Empire IMO.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I'd say that my personal favorite RATM lyrics are from Ashes in the Fall. That song is just so powerful. The double octave whammy and the lyrics just create such a forboding atmosphere. It's one of my favorite RATM songs, methinks.

[static]

^^^^123

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

You know I actually think that...
Rage Against The Machine > Evil Empire > The Battle Of LA
Freedom is the best song especially "Anger is a gift!"

Some stupid idiots in the SOAD thread think Daron Malakian is beter than Tom Morello.
:lol: :lol:
they're pretty pissed @ me now.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I know one can have his own opinion, but that poor soul must be on more drugs than Daron himself. :p

[Endless Obsession]

Freedom is the best song especially "Anger is a gift!"


"Anger is a gift" = tha pumpup

[Darkness]

You know I actually think that...
Rage Against The Machine > Evil Empire > The Battle Of LA
Freedom is the best song especially "Anger is a gift!"

Some stupid idiots in the SOAD thread think Daron Malakian is beter than Tom Morello.
:lol: :lol:
they're pretty pissed @ me now.
Darons a joke compared to Tom IMO. Alot less creative, rarly solos, uses drop C# tuning, riffs aren't as good etc. Toms just an all around better player. Daron doesn't suck though.

[Darkness]

I just got Toms amp EQ settings, and I'm ganna set it up to get a good Tom tone tomorrow.

When can we expect to see the drums?

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Wanna share those settings?

I've got a pretty good tone as far as gain and effects. Gain and chorus sounds a lot like him for some odd reason. The EQ settings are way off though, so that would help lots.

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

well, I can get his tone control from a GuitarOne issue. It has "Killing in the name" tab.
That is if you guys want it.

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

I've got it here...
Gain: 7-8
Bass/Mid/Treble:6/8/7

[static]

I just got Toms amp EQ settings, and I'm ganna set it up to get a good Tom tone tomorrow.

When can we expect to see the drums?

I dont have very good recording equipment, so it may take a few days. :)

[LedZeppFan83]

- I really Rage Against The Machine. But I don't like Zack Dellaroach (however you spell his name), he's an *** hole and isnt doing **** for his career now. Unlike the rest of the members who are in Audioslave with Scott (the lead singer of Soundgarden). Rage only had like two really good albums, their first self titled one and Battle of Los Angles. I didnt really like the others. But I like both the new Audioslave cd's.

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

^^^
:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
You are an ignorant son of a bitch who I'm gonna have to kill because you spelled Zack de la Rocha's name wrong, and who the hell is scott. It's Chris f**king Cornell *******.

[static]

- I really Rage Against The Machine. But I don't like Zack Dellaroach (however you spell his name), he's an *** hole and isnt doing **** for his career now. Unlike the rest of the members who are in Audioslave with Scott (the lead singer of Soundgarden). Rage only had like two really good albums, their first self titled one and Battle of Los Angles. I didnt really like the others. But I like both the new Audioslave cd's.

go kill yourself :thumb:

[lunch998]

Their S/t, Evil Empire, and Battle of LA are amazing albums. Though I'll admit I didn't like Renegades as much, it was still decent. And who cares what Zack's doing now, that doesn't mean he wasn't a big contributer to the band in their time.

[static]

Exactly

[Thor]

Wait, who's doing a cover for this song? Is anyone playing bass? If not I would be happy to play.

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

which one?

[static]

metalhead were playing KITNO with me on drums, jake on guitar, and dunc on bass. on BOP we have me on drums, dunc on bass, and darknessofgreed on guitar. we might do another, in which you could participate. if youre up for vocals...

[Thor]

Sure, I'll do vocals. What song do you want me to do it for?

[static]

KITNO and Bop

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

What other song are you guys thinking of doing? I could play guitar if needed.

[static]

Sleep Now, Bullet In The Head, Bombtrack, Guerilla Radio

[Thor]

Sleep Now, Bullet In The Head, Bombtrack, Guerilla Radio
I would prefer to do a RATM song that is more hip hop than heavy, I would do better vocals that way.

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

^^^
Like Vietnow or Freedom? I love those songs.

so yeah, if you need another guitarist just ask.

When do these covers have to be done by anyway?

[static]

I would prefer to do a RATM song that is more hip hop than heavy, I would do better vocals that way.

bullet in the head is pretty hip-hop. and then theres township rebellion and take da power back :)

[Thor]

bullet in the head is pretty hip-hop. and then theres township rebellion and take da power back :)
I would LOOOOOVE to do Township Rebellion. Can we please do that?

[static]

yes. But i need another cowbell... i only gots one. maybe i can steal one from the school :badboy:

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

Vietnow baby! I could do Take The Power back except the solo. You'd have to find someone eles for that.

[Six Foot Revolver]

Return of this thread=good news :)

[Thor]

Return of this thread=good news :)
one two mother ****ing three, man.

So, what song are we gonna do? I'm hearing a ton of suggestions, but we should get something together.

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

VIETNOW!! I LOVE that song. My little saying was 'Fear is your only god' for months.

[Thor]

VIETNOW!! I LOVE that song. My little saying was 'Fear is your only god' for months.
I'm cool with Vietnow, that's got lots of hip hop in the verse.