**Rage Against The Machine**

[Thor]

I hope audioslave starts to fail miserably so then maybe RATM can reunite
Sorry, it's not going to happen.

[Rasta Rocker]

what is your avatar, metal head 617

[munky_magik]

what is your avatar, metal head 617

it's the cover from a Mudvayne album, if I'm not mistaken

EDIT: http://www.discographyguide.com/mudvayne/mudvayne-discography1030.html - that one

[Rasta Rocker]

gotcha, looked like a DNA strand over some naked dude

[Iron Man]

it's the cover from a Mudvayne album, if I'm not mistaken

EDIT: http://www.discographyguide.com/mudvayne/mudvayne-discography1030.html - that one

"L.D. 50"

Something to do with a dose of something that proves to be lethal 50% of the time, if I'm not mistaken also.

[Thor]

"L.D. 50"

Something to do with a dose of something that proves to be lethal 50% of the time, if I'm not mistaken also.
That is correct, but why are we talking about Mudvayne in a RATM thread?

[Rasta Rocker]

your avatar

[corporalclegg]

What ever happened to de la rocha's solo project?

[munky_magik]

Apparently he's still working on it, but he's released a few solo songs, such as March Of Death, which he collaborated with DJ Shadow on. That was only released over the Internet, and quite frankly it wasn't much good either....I can see it becoming a really prolonged album, that everyone wants to hear, but ultimately isn't much good.

*cough* Chinese Democracy *cough*

:shifty eyes:

[flea_otherside]

One of my favourite bands.

Self-titled is one of the best records I've heard, and I consider it their best.

[Thor]

*cough* Chinese Democracy *cough*

:shifty eyes:
Aye, I'll drink to that. :chug:

[Bass_ment]

My favourite band of all time. A huge inspiration for me politically, in bass playing (gotta love the Timmy C groove), and in general.

Favourite Album: s/t
Favourite Songs: Freedom, No Shelter, Darkness,
Underrated Songs: Ashes in the Fall, Settle for Nothing, Tire Me
Favourite Werid Morello solo: Bulls on Parade
Favourite Classy Morello solo: Darkness or Freedom

So how many people here have the Live and Rare album? Where did you get it?

[rage_atm]

<---------- if you can't tell, i really like rage. both my accounts got the same picture.
:D:D

[CaptainWaits]

gotcha, looked like a DNA strand over some naked dude


I think it is, just the name resembles somethin else, or maybe it resembles the pic., just of somethin i'm not familiar with

[Darkness]

I hope audioslave starts to fail miserably so then maybe RATM can reunite

Noway man. Rage is my fav band ever...but I do not hope Audioslave breaks up, they still make awesome songs and musically Tom is improoving (even though his foot isn't on the whammy pedal every 2 min...) RATM was amazing but its over and now they offer us Audioslave. I kindly except it for one.

[munky_magik]

If you all respect Tom, Brad, And Tim then saying you hope Audioslave fails is a bit dodgy IMO.

[Darkness]

Yes I agree with that last statement...hopefully in the new slave album Timmy C. and Brad will show us a better performance than the last, it was an average album for them two, but I think Tom did awesome.

[Thor]

Audioslave just doesn't compare to RATM. Sorry to all, but I just had to get it out of my system. Although Tom Morello does not fail to impress me with his amazing guitar work.

[munky_magik]

Whilst we are unfortunately on the topic, To me Tom lost half of his innovativness in Audioslave. He mostly relied on effects for his solos and didn't really create anything new in any other way. His riffs were the only thing that remained good about him in Audioslave, and even they pale in comparison to those he did in RATM.

Now Please; NO MORE MENTIONS OF AUDIOSLAVE IN HERE!!

[shortass]

I think Morello is over-rated. I never saw the big deal about Morello.

[munky_magik]

For his time; he wrote great riffage and did brand new crazy whacked out **** on the geetar.

[promqueen]

man brad wilk was the ****....i love him!!!

[munky_magik]

man brad wilk was the ****....i love him!!!

yay?

[shortass]

Man brad?

[munky_magik]

man brad wilk was the ****....i love him!!!*


*man, Brad Wilk was the ****...I love him!!!

[shortass]

Still don't know who Brad Wilk is :upset:

/Awaits flaming

[munky_magik]

Still don't know who Brad Wilk is :upset:

/Awaits flaming

The drummer, Unless I'm greatly mistaken

[shortass]

lol only member I don't know

/Goes and checks

Ah so he is...

[munky_magik]

He's the drummer for Rage...really underrated I think. Sure, he's not fast or anything like that, but in terms of his beats, and hip-hop influenced style, he's quite different from most rock drummers. And he works very well with Tim Commerford in the rhythm section.

Him and Timmy C always lay down a really solid Groove I think.they work great as a team and really lock in well together

[CaptainWaits]

^^deffinetly

Timmy C's a wicked bassist and Wilk gets to play a solid wicked groove all day (lucky b*tch)

[Thor]

^^deffinetly

Timmy C's a wicked bassist and Wilk gets to play a solid wicked groove all day (lucky b*tch)
IMO Brad Wilk was nothing special, even though I am a huge RATM fan. He did what needed to be done, but never really did anything that made my jaw drop.

[CaptainWaits]

^^yeh well he wasn't meant to do ne thing "amazing"

Just to keep a satisfied groove that fit, and he did a great job of it

[Darkness]

Whilst we are unfortunately on the topic, To me Tom lost half of his innovativness in Audioslave. He mostly relied on effects for his solos and didn't really create anything new in any other way. His riffs were the only thing that remained good about him in Audioslave, and even they pale in comparison to those he did in RATM.

Now Please; NO MORE MENTIONS OF AUDIOSLAVE IN HERE!!

Dude, besides on the self titled album all he did was use effects for solos...Besides Audioslaves album was recorded in a hurry he only had like 3/4's of a year to come up with riffs and solos...I bet you on the new slave album his solos will kick major ***...(sorry about bringing audioslave back)

[munky_magik]

well straight away on Bulls Parade from Evil Empire he didn't use an effect. And in RATM generally alot of his solos were less effects based than in Audioslave.

[Darkness]

WRONG. I was ganna mention how he didn't use effects in the bulls one but then I remebered this video clip I saw. Heres exactly how he does it (I saw an interview with him and he showed how he does some of his solos including bulls, guerrilla, and sleep now):

First you turn the bridge pickup volume to 10 and the other to 0 then use the killswitch Technique then you add some "white noise" (he steps on a pedal that was not shown in the video) then he does the scratching...

I'd love to somehow get this video for everyone to see...but have no idea how to.

[munky_magik]

well the solo wouldn't really be the same or as good if he only stepped on the pedal now would it? :rolleyes:

And the inclusion of the killswitch and scratching is what I'm talking about, his solos in Rage weren't totally reliant on effects.

[Darkness]

No, but the solo wouldn't have been as good if he wouldn't have stepped on the pedal... your right man I'm agreeing with you, he needs his effects in audioslave solos more then in rage but I'm just saying that in rage he needed them to.

Audioslave solo without effects - I am the highway (though once live he used a wah and it sounded wicked), Getaway car...those are the only that come to mind I haven't listened to that cd for a while. oh yeah theres show me how to live to he does something with the toggle switch... and the mini solos in Cochise... :thumb:

[munky_magik]

the intro to Cochise is just slap back delay and muted strings, the solo is just normal playing with a hint of dealy.
And I think I am the highway is just done with delay and a ring modulator or some strange effect.

[Linkinbassist]

if you play the bassline to 'bombtrack', and then the bassline to 'cochise', they are stupidly similiar in placing and key...

[munky_magik]

the majority of Tom's/Tim's riffs are written using the same scale, and in the same key.

[Darkness]

Yeah Tom's said it before he's not big on theory. Well more so in audioslave then rage, but still.

[Daven]

tom morelo has some crazy riffs

[munky_magik]

You don't need theory to be able to use different scales.
I'm not complaining though, from basically 1 scale and 2 tunings Tom's work has never bored me.

[Thor]

Tom Morello can come up with some crazy riffs by only using standard tuning and drop D. He never fails to amaze me.

[Darkness]

What I'm saying is he just stays on the same frets and same strings most of the time I'm sure he doesn't care what scale hes useing or what key hes in...though he'll know when notes don't fit or whatever.

[HiP-h0p |\|4zi]

In reply to #190

Okay,

lets take gurellia radio( sorry about the spelling if wrong) and look at the lyrics

Transmission third world war third round
A decade of the weapon of sound above ground
No shelter if youre looking for shade
I lick shots at the brutal charade
As the polls close like a casket
On truth devoured
Silent play in the shadow of power
A spectacle monopolized
The cameras eyes on choice disguised
Was it cast for the mass who burn and toil?
Or for the vultures who thirst for blood and oil?
Yes a spectacle monopolized
They hold the reins, stole your eyes
All the fistagons the bullets and bombs
Who stuff the banks
Who staff the party ranks
More for Gore or the son of a drug lord
None of the above **** it cut the cord

Lights out
Guerilla Radio
Turn that **** up
Lights out
Guerilla Radio
Turn that **** up
Lights out
Guerilla Radio
Turn that **** up
Lights out

Guerilla Radio

Contact I highjacked the frequencies
Blockin the beltway
Move on DC
Way past the days of bombin MCs
Sound off Mumia guan be free
Who gottem yo check the federal file
All you pen devils know the trial was vile
Army of pigs try to silence my style
Off em all out that box its my radio dial

Lights out
Guerilla Radio
Turn that **** up
Lights out
Guerilla Radio
Turn that **** up
Lights out
Guerilla Radio
Turn that **** up
Lights out
Guerilla Radio
Turn that **** up

It has to start somewhere
It has to start sometime
What better place than here
What better time than now

All hell cant stop us now
All hell cant stop us now
All hell cant stop us now
All hell cant stop us now
All hell cant stop us now
All hell cant stop us now


To me that sounds like punk

How about we look at **** the police


Good Evening,

We want to just quickly send a nice friendly message
to uh, Fraternal Order of Police in Philadelphia.

Here's something nice and friendly,
Here's something nice and friendly,
Here's something nice and friendly,
and it goes something like this.

**** tha police,
Comin straight from the underground.
Young nigga got it bad cuz I'm brown,
And not the other color so police think,
They have the authority to kill a minority.

**** that ****, cuz I ain't tha one,
For a punk mutha ****a with a badge and a gun,
To be beatin on, and throwin in jail.
We could go toe to toe in the middle of a cell.

****in with me cuz I'm a teenager,
With a little bit of gold and a pager.
Searchin my car, lookin for the product.
Thinkin every nigga is sellin narcotics.

You'd rather see me in the pen,
Then me and Lorenzo chilling in the Benzo.
Beat tha police outta shape,
And when I'm finished, bring the yellow tape,
To mark off the scene of the slaughter.
No controller, bread and water.

A young nigga on a warpath,
And when I'm finished, it's gonna be a bloodbath,
Of cops, dyin in L. A.

Yo, I got somethin to say.
**** the police,
Comon! Off, What?
**** the police,
Yeah!
Comon!
**** tha police,
Yeah.


**** The police,
Comin straight from the underground.
Young nigga got it bad cuz I'm brown,
And not the other color so police think,
They have the authority to kill a minority.

**** that ****, cuz I ain't tha one,
For a punk mutha ****a with a badge and a gun,
To be beatin on, and throwin in jail.
We could go toe to toe in the middle of a cell.

****in with me cuz I'm a teenager,
With a little bit of gold and a pager.
Searchin my car, lookin for the product.
Thinkin every nigga is sellin narcotics.

You'd rather see me in the pen,
Then me and Lorenzo chilling in the Benzo.
Beat tha police outta shape,
And when I'm finished, bring the yellow tape,
To mark off the scene of the slaughter.
No controller, bread and water.

I don't know if they fags or what,
Search a nigga down and grabbin in the nuts.
And on the other hand, without a gun they can't get none.
But don't let it be a black and a white one.
Cuz they slam ya down to the street top,
Black police showin out for the white cop.

Yeah, my brothas will swarm,
On any mutha ****a in a blue uniform.
Just cuz we in Washington D.C, punk police are afraid of me.
Hey!

Punk on a warpath,
And when I'm finished, it's gonna be a bloodbath,
Of cops, dyin in L. A.

Hey yo, We got somethin to say.
**** the police,
Comon, sing that ****,
Right now,
Comon!
Comon!
One more time,
Here we go, here we go,
Comon!
One More, We gotta do it, right now,
Yeah,
Check it out.
Oh I am sorry for the lateness of this reply as well I didn't notice until i checked my rep points

[ibanezsucks04]

Didn't Zach go off and fight with Mexico against America or something? That's what a friend told me
lol how come that wouldnt surprise anyone if he did.

[Darkness]

Dude who said all those lyrics...**** the police isn't there its a cover of NWA.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

To me that sounds like punk



For something to sound like punk, wouldnt you actually have to [I]hear[I] it? :confused: Pink Floyd was writing punkish songs lyrically, maybe with a bit more talent, but they were still punk souding. See the entire album "Animals." However, just because something is politically driven doesn't mean it's punk.

[Amp'd]

Man i gotta venture out of the guitar forums more! i love all of Toms work and for all those that say he only uses the blues scale in D and E, it doesnt matter because the way he uses the notes and timing means his riff never get stale. In terms of albums st>ee>r>bola but i rate all of them over 9/10. Zach left because he saw the VMA insedent as the last straw.

[cheesepuff]

I like BOLA the best personally, Born of a Broken Man is a beautiful song. I'm pretty sure most of their stuff is pentatonic, haven't really dissected it however so I could be wrong.

[Amp'd]

I heard some where that Kashmir by Led Zeppelin and Wake up by Rage have similiarities, are they similar riffs or what?
similar yes, but they are not the same, Kashmir has three chords, while Wake Up has two. And thank you for not saying "OMFG RaGe CopIeD ZePPlIn"

[Amp'd]

I like BOLA the best personally, Born of a Broken Man is a beautiful song. I'm pretty sure most of their stuff is pentatonic, haven't really dissected it however so I could be wrong.
Born of a broken man is a ****en kick *** song i puts tingles down my spine.

[cheesepuff]

Born of a broken man is a ****en kick *** song i puts tingles down my spine.

mos def.

[Wish]

lol how come that wouldnt surprise anyone if he did.
:lol:

[rhcp pman]

Apparently, RHCP was a huge influence on RATM. You can tell by their styles which intersect (the whole rap/funk/rock thing).

[munky_magik]

Apparently, RHCP was a huge influence on RATM. You can tell by their styles which intersect (the whole rap/funk/rock thing).

*cough* fanboy *cough*

[rhcp pman]

*cough* fanboy *cough*

Um... sorry??? Yes, I love RHCP for obvious reasons. I've just discovered RATM recently and I like them. Someone told me that fact and I am not sure if it is true (hence the usage of "apparently"). I'm just happy that someone has a style which is at least a bit similar to RHCP.

[munky_magik]

It just seems a bit dodgy when you introduce a fact to do with your fav band(presumably) into a discussion on another band that was on a different topic.
My apologies :)

[rhcp pman]

It just seems a bit dodgy when you introduce a fact to do with your fav band(presumably) into a discussion on another band that was on a different topic.
My apologies :)

No worries. I guess it did look dodgy since I also just signed up to this forum (like those fanboys who sign up to every forum on the net and rant about good charlotte). I wasn't sure whether that fact was well known or not. I spend a lot of time on the MTV forums telling off fanchicks. :lol: . I swear that 9/10 people who like Good Charlotte on there are fanchicks who keep saying "G00d chaRl0tTe rox0rz because j0el is h0tT." I hate Good Charlotte, but I despise GC fanchicks who can't constructively appreciate music instead of appearance. meh... fanchicks, fanboys - mostly the same.

[munky_magik]

same thing just a slight variance in sex :p
One of the things that I like about RATM is how effectively they brought their hip hop/rap and rock/funk influences together and blended them so damn well.

[Darkness]

If you guys are Zack De La Rocha fans I suggest checking out www.zdlr.net. Its fan made but its got a great forum...my names RunninFree on there. If your more Tom Morello fans then check out http://www.tommorello.net whos also fan made and by the same guy as zdlr.

Heres a funny interview I found with Tom shortly after Zack quits.
http://www.metalsludge.tv/main/index.php?module=subjects&func=viewpage&pageid=200

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I read that article. He sounds like a very funny guy. Very liberal, but very funny. :P

I'm listening to their S/T right now. It's so awesome. I realized how much of an underrated song "Fistful of Steel" is. It contains one of the few shred solos Morello has done.

EDIT: After reading Morello's "20 questions" (I always thought it was 21 questions :confused: ) I proceeded to read Zakk Wylde's interview on Metalsludge. Quite the quality human being. :rolleyes:

[Darkness]

lol...Tom doesn't seem to be to to fond of Zakk Wylde but in the new guitar world theres a pic of them arm in arm.

[munky_magik]

lol...Tom doesn't seem to be to to fond of Zakk Wylde but in the new guitar world theres a pic of them arm in arm.

Things change.

[ibanezsucks04]

ahhh i just realized im wearing an audio slave t-shirt. I feel so dirty... RIP rage

[HiP-h0p |\|4zi]

For something to sound like punk, wouldnt you actually have to [I]hear[I] it? :confused: Pink Floyd was writing punkish songs lyrically, maybe with a bit more talent, but they were still punk souding. See the entire album "Animals." However, just because something is politically driven doesn't mean it's punk.
Oh **** rage is rapcore metal, wtf

[joas]

I just realized Question 4 of the Twenty Questions interview won't show up for some reason in my browser. Anyone want to tell me what Tom's answer to it was?

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I'll just post the whole interview, it's definitely worth while:

Last week Tom emailed Donna Anderson and wrote, "This is Tom Morello from Rage Against the Machine and a friend of mine just turned me on to your most excellent Metal Sludge website. I just love it. Now as a long time fighter for free speech myself I love the open forum you have established on your website." Donna then wrote back to Tom and used her feminine charm to get him to do 20 Questions! Props to Tom for his speedy reply and for having fun with our questions. Enjoy!

1. What are you currently up to? This is your only chance to promote your ****.
Along with Ozzfest headliners System of a Down, I have just established the Axis of Justice, a "freedom school" at each Ozzfest site where fans can go to find information about vital issues of the day. From first-hand help for victims of physical and sexual abuse to efforts to stop the international cycle of violence, heavy metal fans will at long last have the opportunity to save the planet while they're banging their heads. If you are going to Ozzfest this summer, check out the Axis of Justice tent.

2. What's your opinion on the Pledge of Allegiance debate?
Who cares? A bunch of 5 year old kids robotically chanting a prayer of indoctrination to a piece of cloth is so ridiculous to begin with, that any amendment of that propaganda poem one way or another doesn't make any difference to me. Allegiance should be earned, not hypnotized into kids.

3. If you were elected president of the US, what are the first five things you would do?
1. Paint the White House black.
2. Change the National Anthem to "Who Let The Dogs Out".
3. Bring the Bush family up before a War Crimes Tribunal--except those daughters who like to party.
4. Make sure all the girls that wouldn't date me in high school know I'm President.
5. End hunger and stuff.

4. What hard rock heavy metal band should give it up and call it a day?
What hard rock heavy metal band SHOULDN'T give it up and call it a day?

5. Rate the following guitarist from 1-10, with 1 being a hack, and 10 being a virtuoso.
Eddie Van Halen: that dude's probably a 10
Yngwie Malmsteen: I'll give him an 8. He would get higher if he hadn't written those goofy lyrics to "I Am a Viking."
C.C. Deville: 1. Maybe 2 for that amazing accent. Where is that dude from?
Dimebag Darrell: Yipes. He gets a 5 for his hot strip club licks
Zack Wylde: He can "kwaa" with the best of them. He gets a 10 for his "kwaa's", 6.5 for the rest.
Adam Jones: I have to give my old high school buddy a high score. He is quite an innovative player, 8.
Tom Schultz: Boston is a stinky band, but he plays some nice melodies. 4.
Joe Perry: I love that dude. I give him 9.
Kirk Hammet: He's a real nice man, and Metallica certainly knows how to rock it. I'll give him a 7.
Alex Lifeson: He has always been a terrible dresser, but a fine guitar player. 7.
Daron Malakian: He's a very interesting player, and brings that Armenian metal style that the kids all bounce to these days. Join the 7 club.

6. There have been a lot of rumors about the status of Chris Cornell and you guys. Where does Chris currently stand in the band.
He stands in the middle, facing the microphone.

7. You were in a band called Electric Sheep. Electric Sheep? Dude, what exactly were you thinking at that time?
In a world of bands called Limp Bizkit and Hoobastank, Electric Sheep rolls off the tongue like a Shakespearean love sonnet. Leave me alone.

8. How do you feel about the songs you recorded with Chris Cornell being leaked out on the internet?
I'm mad. So mad. Some jackass intern at Bad Animal Studios in Seattle stole some demos and put them on the internet without the band's permission. I'm so mad. They sound nothing like the record, and I can't wait for people to hear the real thing.

9. Do you feel guilty for helping cause the whole rap-metal thing?
Yes. But what's done is done.

10. Yes or no, has Tom Morello ever:
Gone to a Poison concert = Yes, though I didn't pay for it.
Drove drunk = Not as far as the DMV knows.
Had the desire to crash the MTV video awards = Are you kidding?
Sung along to Warrant's "Cherry Pie?" = who hasn't?
Woke up in a puddle of your own urine = Sorry to disappoint you, no.
Bragged to a chick that you went to Harvard to get into her pants = Does that really work? I used to always play the "hey, I'm a big Star Trek fan" card, when I should've been playing the "hey, I'm a bookworm geek" card to get laid. You people know everything.
Stolen a hubcap = Not lately
Paid for sex = I once paid for dinner for two at a Red Lobster and got a lingering hug goodnight. Does this qualify?
Used a racial slur = Does "cracker-*** cracker" count?
Gone to the bathroom in front of a chick = That is what I'm doing right now as I am answering these questions.
Tom on Star Trek
Now we know why he always wears a hat!

11. RATM has strongly backed Mumia Abu-Jamal. However there were three witnesses saying he shot Daniel Faulkner, he admitted doing it at the hospital, the gun was registered to him, and the bullets that killed Faulkner came from Mumia's gun. If Mumia Abu-Jamal didn't kill Daniel Faulkner, who did?
Arnold Beverly. A man who in 1999 confessed to the murder in a sworn affidavit.

12. Do you think that OJ Simpson is also not guilty?
Why? Because he's black? Are you trying race-bait me, you cracker-*** cracker!

13. What rock star deserves a smack in the mouth, and why?
The keyboard player from Rage Against the Machine deserves a smack in the mouth for missing rehearsals for the last 11 years.

14. Rage Against the Machine was supposed to be on Ozzfest, but when Cornell left, you guys got denied. How irritating was that?
That is incorrect. "Rage Against the Machine" was never going to be on Ozzfest. Our new band, with Chris Cornell, was to be on Ozzfest. We then pulled out of Ozzfest for a variety of reasons, and yes, it was tremendously irritating.


15. The last of Tom Morello:
The last movie you saw = Planet of the Apes
The last book you read = Seabiscuit
The last time you told someone "**** you, I won't do what you tell me" = I am screaming that at the top of my lungs as each new question comes up.
The last time you talked to Zack = the day he quit the band
The last time you watched wrestling = the day Zack quit the band
last concert you went to = David Lee Roth and Sammy Hagar
Last rock star you met = David Lee Roth
Last CD you purchased = The Scorpions "Love Drive"
Last lie you told = that wrestling question
last **** you watched = "I Was a Cabin Boy on a Turkish Steamer: The Director's Cut"

16. If you had a gun to your head and had to tour with one 80s hair band, which band would it be?
I'll take my chances with the gun.

17. Do you deserve so much money for such simple work?
Wait a minute, was I supposed to be getting paid for this?

18. What are you so angry about?
I'm still fuming about that OJ question, you cracker-*** cracker!

19. Do you secretly wish that Zack De La Rosa's CD fails miserably?
No, but I do secretly wish that you could spell Zack de la Rocha.

20. Time for Metal Sludge's word association. We mention a name, you give us your thoughts.
Fred Durst = only in America
Britney Spears = I would like a Pepsi, please.
Creed = Can't explain it
The Crocodile Hunter = a great man
Nikki Sixx = another great man
Lars Ulrich = a smaller, Danish great man
Carson Daly = I like that guy
Gene Simmons = Recently he seems to combine the killer instinct of Donald Trump with the horniness of a pubescent teenager from Porky's 2 and that's just how I like him best.
Anthrax = I really like that Scott Ian guy
Tommy Lee = the last time I saw Tommy Lee, he licked the whole side of my face. I later read that when he first met Pamela Anderson, he licked the whole side of her face. Does that mean we too soon will be wed? I nervously watch and wait.
Howard Stern = who gets up that early?

[Apocalyptic Raids]

haha, that was great, even though ive read it before.

[Thor]

Where did you find that interview? Anyways, good job on it. :thumb:

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

16. If you had a gun to your head and had to tour with one 80s hair band, which band would it be?
I'll take my chances with the gun.

13. What rock star deserves a smack in the mouth, and why?
The keyboard player from Rage Against the Machine deserves a smack in the mouth for missing rehearsals for the last 11 years.

My favorite parts. :D

There was a link higher on this page, I beleive. www.metalsludge.com I'm sure you could search for it there.

[lunch998]

Tom Morello is awesome.

[paco999]

Funny guy

I liked the "If he could be president question"

I d do that too

[willis2441]

does anyone know why brad wilk changed his drumming style when he went to audioslave? he used to play really good for rage, but he dosent play that good for audioslave.

[CaptainWaits]

I wouldn't really say he changed his style so much, they're very similar

[SeAmoNKeY]

His use of the bass drum has definitely gotten simpler and i think hes become a lot more boring. But, hey hes still pretty good. And he switched from Zildjians to Paiste's!

[flea_otherside]

The whole band has developed their playing in Audioslave. I have a feeling that Tom, Brad and Tim are playing more for the songs, which are now amost all the time built up by chord progressions and not by riffs as almost all the time in RATM. And when I look at the songs they've written, I think they play them quite perfect. Look at Like a Stone. Simple drumming, but it sounds just right. The bass is also really simple. And still I think the bass in the verses is some of the greatest stuff Tim's done. The guitar sounds awesome aswell. Combined with Cornell's great vocals it sounds just perfect in my opinion.

[Bass_ment]

^^^^
far from perfect but quite good none the less. All in all we can't forget that Audioslave was not intended to pick up where Rage left off. Its something completely new all together. but now NO MORE AUDIOSLAVE TALK!.

The interview was very funny indeed. I actually had no idea that Morello had a sense of humour, but thats great that he does.

I'll ask this question again, since no one responded earlier. Does anyone have the Live and Rare album? If so what do you think about it and where did you get it?

[flea_otherside]

^^^
congrats to your 666th post.

[lunch998]

^^^^
far from perfect but quite good none the less. All in all we can't forget that Audioslave was not intended to pick up where Rage left off. Its something completely new all together. but now NO MORE AUDIOSLAVE TALK!.

The interview was very funny indeed. I actually had no idea that Morello had a sense of humour, but thats great that he does.

I'll ask this question again, since no one responded earlier. Does anyone have the Live and Rare album? If so what do you think about it and where did you get it?

My brother has it and it's really good. He got it probably 3 or 4 years ago though so I don't know where he found it.

[Darkness]

Where did you find that interview? Anyways, good job on it. :thumb:

Heh, thanks. I found it on an old RATM site about a year ago...I just stuck it in my favorites knowing someone else would want to see it someday.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

does anyone know why brad wilk changed his drumming style when he went to audioslave? he used to play really good for rage, but he dosent play that good for audioslave.

I know for sure that Morello has changed his style to adapt to Cornell. He uses far less effects, and his riffs aren't as fun to listen to/play. I think that maybe Cornell is castrating Morello as a guitar player. Bad Christopher! :smash:

Due to the fact that Chris was in Soundgarden, I think that the former members of RATM changed their style to sound like a mix between RATM and Soundgarden, creating another mediocre post-grunge band. :upset: Again, I must say bad Christopher!

[DekWannaBFlea]

I know for sure that Morello has changed his style to adapt to Cornell. He uses far less effects, and his riffs aren't as fun to listen to/play. I think that maybe Cornell is castrating Morello as a guitar player. Bad Christopher! :smash:

Due to the fact that Chris was in Soundgarden, I think that the former members of RATM changed their style to sound like a mix between RATM and Soundgarden, creating another mediocre post-grunge band. :upset: Again, I must say bad Christopher!


I wouldn't say Audioslave is Neo-Grunge.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/6327/faq.html

I found this F.A.Q. about RATM to be quite interesting. Lots of wierd things I didn't know were in there. It is fairly lengthy, but worth the read.

I wouldn't say Audioslave is Neo-Grunge.

I would.

[opeth_oasis]

RATM are one of my favourite bands, Zak De La Rocka is bloody awesome, one of my favourite singers. I love Tom Morellos extra long strings, very cool. What genre would ou say RATM was? I'd say Fusion/Alternative

[lunch998]

Rap/rock.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

What genre would ou say RATM was?

Music.

[Rasta Rocker]

funk fusion

[opeth_oasis]

it really sucked that they broke up, especially they did so just before the Big Day Out, i bought tickets just to see them!

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

it really sucked that they broke up, especially they did so just before the Big Day Out, i bought tickets just to see them!

That sucks! My condolences :upset:

At least you were into them when they were still making music. My friend just got me into them about three months ago.

[Rasta Rocker]

yeah ive just been recently getting into them, especially cause im a bass player, i love playing their music

[opeth_oasis]

its awesome fun to play, i love playing Killing in The Name of's solo, sounds awesome witht he correct amount of Wah. I don't care to much for audioslave, but they are not a bad band, just not my thing.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

i didnt mind audioslave's album, but i thought some of the tracks were pretty poor.

[hammet_ownz]

yeah agreed, theyre probably the funnest band to play if u r a bassist. the way the bass excentuates the guitar and drum line, fantastic. i just love playing the bombrack solo, especially on double bass, sounds fantastic.

[flea_otherside]

It's hard to put RATM under a certain genre. I'd say rap/funk/rock. NOT fusion.

[Six Foot Revolver]

It's hard to put RATM under a certain genre. I'd say rap/funk/rock. NOT fusion.
Yeah, I would agree with that

[hypocracy hater]

Political Hip Hop

[maggot4875]

i dont like them especially the vocals

[Morello_Monk]

OH MAN! i havent posted here for AGES! and i coem back to a nice WARM RATM THREAD!!!!! the creator is a god.
Have any of you heard any of these rare unreleased RATM tunes?

Producer
Degeneration X(Also known as revolution)
Darkness of greed
Hit the deck
Bombtrack(ORIGINAL version)
Tunnel
Wake up (extended, live)

Well ive got em all and more. possibly every ratm bootleg you'll ever need and if you got MSN, just add my email adress ssonic32@hotmail.com and ask me, i'll send some over!

[Morello_Monk]

On subject; Someone told me RATM were nu metal once. i got pretty annoyed. But.. are they? i still call it Hard Rock.

[Thor]

to quote flea_otherside, "It's hard to put RATM under a certain genre"
If I was forced to classify them, I would say that they fall under the "awesome" genre.

[Arucard]

Id probably call em Rap Metal tbo...

[NuGgEt123]

yeah they are rap metal, sadly... because that puts them in the same genre as limp bizkit and the likes...wow i can't believe this thread is still going O.o

[Darkness]

There not really metal though...and limp biz would be something like rap nu-metal.

[munky_magik]

I think that most people will see them as different things and define genres differently.
Each to their own :)

[Darkness]

What...that doesn't make any sence...there nothing like nu-metal they were just out at the same time...

[munky_magik]

What...that doesn't make any sence...there nothing like nu-metal they were just out at the same time...

they're also one of the fathers of nu-metal though, even though they're not a nu-metal band

He means that they're not nu-metal but they influenced nu-metal artists.

[NuGgEt123]

I think that most people will see them as different things and define genres differently.
Each to their own :)

yeah that makes sense.



















they're rap metal :]

[SkaCore911]

Rap/Hard Rock

[perry589]

rap metal

[Arucard]

So, who here has heard roll right off Bulls On Parade? Possibly the simplest but best riff ever invented.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

If I was forced to classify them, I would say that they fall under the "awesome" genre.

Very well put. RATM is a band that you can't really classifie, due to their varying styles. Sort of like Pink Floyd. We can put both of those bands under the "awesome" genre.

[Darkness]

So, who here has heard roll right off Bulls On Parade? Possibly the simplest but best riff ever invented.

You meen Roll Right off of Evil Empire, and I'm sure we've all heard it.

[Bass_ment]

I'm really glad this thread is still going, maybe it could become the Official RATM Thread in the future. Keep posting people!

So what do people here think of the Renegades album? I think it was an interesting view into many of Rage's inspirations, and favourite artists. These were no cop-out covers either as they are all radically different from their originals. All in all the songs are not as good as Rage's originals but are defnitely worth the purchase if you are a fan.

Favourites:
I'm Housin
How I Could Just Kill A Man (better than the Cypress Hill original)
Kick out the Jams (sounds even better when they play it live on Live at the Grand Olympic Auditorium)

[Bass_ment]

^^^
congrats to your 666th post.

gurr argg evil things

hehe Thank You very much :thumb:

[munky_magik]

Threads become official threads because there are a large number of threads on that band at the smae time.
It has nothing to do with how many posts are in it.

[Arucard]

Ooops, thats what i mean. Feel gay ++

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I'm really glad this thread is still going, maybe it could become the Official RATM Thread in the future. Keep posting people!

So what do people here think of the Renegades album? I think it was an interesting view into many of Rage's inspirations, and favourite artists. These were no cop-out covers either as they are all radically different from their originals. All in all the songs are not as good as Rage's originals but are defnitely worth the purchase if you are a fan.

Favourites:
I'm Housin
How I Could Just Kill A Man (better than the Cypress Hill original)
Kick out the Jams (sounds even better when they play it live on Live at the Grand Olympic Auditorium)

I havent heard a single thing off of Renegades, but I think I'm going to buy it today.

[Bass_ment]

Threads become official threads because there are a large number of threads on that band at the smae time.
It has nothing to do with how many posts are in it.

I know that is usually the case but I seem to remember that huge Opeth Thread that got given official status, and to my memory their was no epidemic of Opeth threads at the time.

ohh well this thread is fun regardless.

[munky_magik]

I know that is usually the case but I seem to remember that huge Opeth Thread that got given official status, and to my memory their was no epidemic of Opeth threads at the time.

ohh well this thread is fun regardless.

Effectively this thread is already an official thread, just without the tag. So if you just treat it as one, and quit asking for the tag then all of your problems are solved :)

[opeth_oasis]

I just bought the grand olympic auditorium dvd. It's pretty good, Tom Morello is such a perfectionist, and the mosh pit looks bloody insane. lol rage have very distinct views on social issues and politics.

[Rasta Rocker]

I've already read some articles and biographies of them, but I still can't figure out what their exact views are...anyone know the specifics?

[Jawaharal]

battle of l.a. is my favorite ratm album

[Darkness]

I've already read some articles and biographies of them, but I still can't figure out what their exact views are...anyone know the specifics?

They hate Democrats and Rebublicans. What else do you want to know?

[Rasta Rocker]

haha, thats good. But does anyone know why Brad Wilk has what some may call an obsession with the number 3?

[Darkness]

I've seen this question before...and I still can't answer it lol

But I can tell you that hes the least political in the band and that hes staring in an upcoming movie. :wave:

[opeth_oasis]

all i can say is that they get their statement across

[RaTm_FaN]

so wat movie is he staring in...wats it about?

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

They hate Democrats and Rebublicans. What else do you want to know?

Then uhh..why did they play at the Democratic convention in the '96 election? It may have not been the '96 election, but they did perform at one of them.

I heard Morello was a Commie. :confused: All his hats say something like "Commie" or have the hammer and sickle on it...gahh

[opeth_oasis]

lol yeah they have Che Guievara all over the stage when they play (if you dont know he was a communism leader)

[Janitor]

Then uhh..why did they play at the Democratic convention in the '96 election? It may have not been the '96 election, but they did perform at one of them.

They were protesting.

I heard Morello was a Commie. :confused: All his hats say something like "Commie" or have the hammer and sickle on it...gahh
Yeah, he is a communist. I'm not sure what Zack is, which is weird as he was the vocalist.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

They were protesting.

Dammit, so then yes, they are commies. :p

I'm not kidding about this either.

[DekWannaBFlea]

They are socialists not communists. And they all seem to have the same views.

[DonMancini]

That Morello interview a page or two back, was that real? :p

Cause if it is, that's hilarious. But I doubt it.

[munky_magik]

so how do you feel about the rather extrodinary growth of your thread?

[DonMancini]

so how do you feel about the rather extrodinary growth of your thread?
I've had bigger *that sounds wrong :p * But this one is rather interesting, unlike the spam filled pit ones.

I'm happy for the content more than the size, because that's what really matters.

[munky_magik]

I've had bigger *that sounds wrong :p * But this one is rather interesting, unlike the spam filled pit ones.

I'm happy for the content more than the size, because that's what really matters.

you keep your sizes to yourself ;)
This thread is good because it actually has conversation.
Spam isn't really tolerated in R&M but usually most of the threads still suck. So rep to you for making a good thread Sir :)

[Darkness]

AHH...Guys rage aren't commies.

"RATM was for revolutionary thinking, never an absolute political agenda. They are first and formost for freedom, human rights, equality, and the overthrowing of oppression. May that be capitalist oppression of the poor, dictatorship, abusive communist regimes, racism, sexism, animal rights, etc. Socialism and communism has been a mind catalyst for them, as seen from their book list, but never a goal for themselves or listeners; its only to help a burgeoning mind break away from the mold of the modern day monetary monotony. These recommendations of socialism will help many people THINK, its philosophy...it won't make them instantaneously a communist. Thats ignorant. Any book that deals with Revolution, hence most socialist ones, are a recommended book for RATM. Naysayers must get that throught their head."

I quoted someone on the zdlr site...we had this conversation there to.

[Darkness]

That Morello interview a page or two back, was that real? :p

Cause if it is, that's hilarious. But I doubt it.

I believe it to be real. Because like...they got info about what Audioslave was doing at the time, but whatever.

Then uhh..why did they play at the Democratic convention in the '96 election? It may have not been the '96 election, but they did perform at one of them.

They played outside the 2000 election not sure about the 96. But they were there to protest it. See the GOA dvd, Zack has a small speech about the DNC on it.

Sorry for double post..

[Apocalyptic Raids]

That morello interview is real.

i first read it ages ago at

www.metal-sludge.com

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

That Morello interview a page or two back, was that real? :p

Cause if it is, that's hilarious. But I doubt it.

Yes, somebody had a link to the interview off of Metalsludge. It's real. :D

[Apocalyptic Raids]

its the best morello interview ever, easily.

Metal Sludge have some other great interviews also.

[Morello_Monk]

AHH...Guys rage aren't commies.


Tom had a hammer and sickle sticker on his guitar for a while. There is nothing wrong with being communist anyway.

[Bass_ment]

I think simply writing Rage off as communist is much to simple. They were certainly left-wing though its way oversimplified to call them communist.

[munky_magik]

Did they ever release an official statement in regards to their political beliefs?

[.Realm.of.Chaos.]

Finally a great thread! RATM is one of my fav bands, I have all their albums and I am glad to see this thread is doing so great and the "Featured Artist: Pink Floyd" thread is doing quite poorly. Thank God for threads like this :)

[munky_magik]

Finally a great thread! RATM is one of my fav bands, I have all their albums and I am glad to see this thread is doing so great and the "Featured Artist: Pink Floyd" thread is doing quite poorly. Thank God for threads like this :)

wha does the success of the Pink Floyd FA have to do with anything??

[Huber]

One time Pink Floyd bought Zack De La Rocha lunch at McDonalds. ZDLR was like "Americans are fat!" and started writing the lyrics he does today

/end random fake story

[shortass]

Finally a great thread! RATM is one of my fav bands, I have all their albums and I am glad to see this thread is doing so great and the "Featured Artist: Pink Floyd" thread is doing quite poorly. Thank God for threads like this :)
What have you got against Pink Floyd? :angry:

[munky_magik]

Feel free to read my Featured Artist: Rage Against The Machine thread at any time. :) It's rather good, if I say so myself, although I prefer my Pink Floyd one.



I know Tom Morello got quite pissed off when people lumped it as "the band's" political beliefs, and emphasised that, as individuals, they all had different ones, although him and Zack were, and still are, the most political. I think that none of them could be described as communists though, so much as socialists.

shows how much I know :p I just generally assumed that they all had sufficiently similar beliefs so they could be grouped as one.
Well, off to Google I go!

[SlasHfan2045]

Did they ever release an official statement in regards to their political beliefs?
hey this is somewhat off topic but i was told zach and ziggy marley were working on some **** have u or any one else heard about that.

[Rasta Rocker]

i dont know anything about it, but that would be the best "modern" music ive heard in a long time

[munky_magik]

hey this is somewhat off topic but i was told zach and ziggy marley were working on some **** have u or any one else heard about that.

off topic it is, but why did you need to quote me?

[SlasHfan2045]

i dont know anything about it, but that would be the best "modern" music ive heard in a long timei think it would be great im from cincinnati,oh and we have a bogarts here and i was told a few months ago they were gonna tour here but what could they possibly they have no album

[SlasHfan2045]

off topic it is, but why did you need to quote me?
because im new to this forum stuff and i wanted u 2 c that i was specifically askin you overall. my appologies

[Morello_Monk]

Rage against the machine and tool always had something in common..... dontchuthink?

[munky_magik]

because im new to this forum stuff and i wanted u 2 c that i was specifically askin you overall. my appologies

It's cool, I was just wondering :)

[munky_magik]

Rage against the machine and tool always had something in common..... dontchuthink?

Rage and Tool were close together when they were growing up.
Tom and Adam Jones were ina highschool band called Electric Sheep together.

EDIT: beaten by Med.....again

[SlasHfan2045]

F U C K

[shortass]

F U C K
What is that all about? :confused:

[SlasHfan2045]

What is that all about? :confused:
i wanted to beat the censor

[munky_magik]

i wanted to beat the censor
there's better ways to beat it that make you look less idiotic

[Darkness]

Tom had a hammer and sickle sticker on his guitar for a while. There is nothing wrong with being communist anyway.

Tom also had a picture of Che on his amp. Does that make him cuban or argentinian?

[DonMancini]

I have a question.

Whenever Tom plays the "sleep now in the fire" solo live, he always gets on his knees in front of his amp. Anyone know what he's doing and why he does that? I noticed that there are also three pictures of what appears to be a vietnamese woman on it, does that have anything to do with it?

[munky_magik]

I have a question.

Whenever Tom plays the "sleep now in the fire" solo live, he always gets on his knees in front of his amp. Anyone know what he's doing and why he does that? I noticed that there are also three pictures of what appears to be a vietnamese woman on it, does that have anything to do with it?

I believe that the solo is done using feedback and whammy bar so he just get's close to the to create feedback. although he could equally be conjuring up crazy sounds from his worship of crazy vietnamise fertitility god's...crazy

[DonMancini]

I believe that the solo is done using feedback and whammy bar so he just get's close to the to create feedback. although he could equally be conjuring up crazy sounds from his worship of crazy vietnamise fertitility god's...crazy
refl, that would explain it.

And I was looking for a deep political/emotional reason.

[munky_magik]

refl, that would explain it.

And I was looking for a deep political/emotional reason.

I'll see what I can do ;)

[munky_magik]

hmm...How about the pictures are of 3 vietnamese women who were crushed by the opression of their Right wing government and the solo is the sound of their dying cries and he must get close to them to be able to relay these cries again and again?

[DonMancini]

hmm...How about the pictures are of 3 vietnamese women who were crushed by the opression of their Right wing government and the solo is the sound of their dying cries and he must get close to them to be able to relay these cries again and again?
I would have put "being crushed by american capitalism" :p But good enough :-*

[Rasta Rocker]

Can anyone find anything out about Brad Wilk and the number 3?

[munky_magik]

have you google'd it?

[Rasta Rocker]

the thing you must learn about me is i am one of the laziest bastards around, so no...im just waiting to see if anyone is nice enough to look it up for me

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Can anyone find anything out about Brad Wilk and the number 3?
i think it is just his favourite number. Which i why he is supposed to write it on everything.

[Rasta Rocker]

In the articles I've read, they say he has a strange connection with it...I mean I have a favorite number, but I don't write it on everything.

[Arucard]

I listened to the whole of Evil Empire on the way to school today, and it is so much better than i remember.

[Bass_ment]

^^^^
It certainly is the one of the 3 that grows on you. When I first heard it I thought it was the weakest of the three, but now after owning it for over a year and giving many a listen I feel that its probably just as great as the other ones. Although the production value is not as high as the s/t so most of the songs sound much better live.

Too bad I'll never get to see them play Bulls on Parade live :upset:

[fenderbender89]

:thumb:
Hell yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bombtrack and Freedom is there best songs
i love those songs.
Bombtrack and Freedom live is 10x better than studio.

Crazy solos.
get live and rare
and there last DVD. :thumb:

[Darkness]

I listened to the whole of Evil Empire on the way to school today, and it is so much better than i remember.

Happened to me last night. I popped it in and its like whoa...awesome. Wind Below did me in.

[Thor]

Happened to me last night. I popped it in and its like whoa...awesome. Wind Below did me in.
Haha, I did the same thing today. I used to not like the song "Without A Face" but now that song seems a whole lot better than it did before.

[munky_magik]

Evil Empire is my favourite Rage album anyway, it's just consistently better IMO.

[Darkness]

Haha, I did the same thing today. I used to not like the song "Without A Face" but now that song seems a whole lot better than it did before.

Without a face is kick *** man, the bass line during the verse is really cool.

[SOS420]

im just getting into them, but from what i have heard they are a good metal/hard rock band

[Bassisle]

there is a song called "genocide" and i cant find tabs on it or the cd its on
can any one help me out :confused:

[CaptainWaits]

Evil Empire is my favourite Rage album anyway, it's just consistently better IMO.



You know, I can never honestly pick between the Self-Titled and Evil Empire

My opinoin constantly switches between the two

[Bullet In_The Head]

I really don't c whats so good about s/t. I mean, well, they're all great albums and im not saying it sucks or anything but aside from a few songs, I really don't think it compares to other albums. But that's just my opinion.

Maybe I'll try listening to it a couple more times and I'll realize how good it is.

[liar,lie,lie,lie]

there is a song called "genocide" and i cant find tabs on it or the cd its on
can any one help me out :confused:
Do u mean settle for nothing?

http://www.mxtabs.net/tab_versions.php?path=Bass,r,2457,Rage+Against+The +Machine,Settle+For+Nothing,39241

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Genocide also goes by the name Darkness Of Greed, or sometimes just Darkness, and it isnt on any albums, it was recorded for a movie soundtrack. I think the movie was called The Crow.

[Bass_ment]

yep Vio-lence is correct on that one

[fenderbender89]

there is a song called "genocide" and i cant find tabs on it or the cd its on
can any one help me out :confused:

live and rare thats the cd its on.

live stuff :thumb:
Rare stuff :thumb:

good song :thumb:

[custardpie]

If I remember correctly, Darkness of Greed was released on that Live & Rare cd, the only live album they did besides the Grand Olympic... Not sure if you guys arent mentioning it 'cause it was in import only out in Japan, but the whole cd was **** good. You can find it fairly cheap now, like 10-12 bucks...

[Darkness]

That wasn't an official rage release though, Sony or something made it to basically celebrate there tour in Japan.

[Xai]

Killin in the name of is my favourite RATM song. Does anyone like the new singer in RATM better in the album RAGE?

[Darkness]

That post didn't make any sense.

[Rasta Rocker]

haha, i know

[Bass_ment]

Killin in the name of is my favourite RATM song. Does anyone like the new singer in RATM better in the album RAGE?

and he really butchered that song title too.....and the rest is incomprehensible

[Rasta Rocker]

Eh, it was his second post...maybe he'll learn to explain himself next time.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Most of them never learn.

[Darkness]

Eh, it was his second post...maybe he'll learn to explain himself next time.


No it was his first post at the time.

[opeth_oasis]

Vietnow is such an awesome song lol "Turn on tha radio, nah **** it turn it off
Fear is your only god on the radio" top song:thumb: RATM's best albums IMO are Evil Empire and Battle Of LA.

[rageagainstthemachine1]

dude there one of my favortie bands too

[opeth_oasis]

ok............

[Rasta Rocker]

this thread is going nowhere

[Zach De La Ro]

look at my user name and ask me if i love rage...

on renegades, i loved tim's line on How i could just kill a man

definitly one of my favorite bassists

wake up is an anthem

[Thor]

this thread is going nowhere
Well then give us something to talk about.

[opeth_oasis]

lol me and some mates have made a RATM clan, the Renegades Of Funk, we're the biggest rage fans.

[Rasta Rocker]

I'd be down for something like that, but I'm a moderate leaning to the conservative side

[Darkness]

Hmm that'd be kinda cool.

[opeth_oasis]

yeah its pretty good, if you guys were local u cud join:thumb:

[Bartender]

Well, Tom Morello and Adam Jones were in a band together, and Morello introduced Adam Jones and Danny Carey, so they've got that link...plus Maynard Keenan appears on Know Your Enemy, and they share the same left of field, authority challenging political beliefs, so yeah...in terms of attitude they're not only similar, but friends as well. :)

There's also that Revolution song, or has that been thrown out and shot down already in this thread? I haven't been reading it for a while.

I always thought it would be good to get a really conservative/Republican band playing the same style of politically infused music as RATM, or some punk band, like Crass or Conflict. Just for a cheap laugh on my part, more than anything else.

[Rasta Rocker]

What could a right wing band sing about?

[Bass_ment]

^^^^
pro-life, no gay marriage, no immigrants, superiority by social class, free trade, "supporting our troops"

I'm sure they could find something to sing about.

ok in an effort to move this thread forward everyone please post their favourite RATM lyrics and explain why you like them:

"No Shelter"

The main attraction - distraction
got ya number than number than numb
Empty ya pockets son; they got you thinkin that
What ya need is what they sellin
Make you think that buyin is rebellin
From the theaters to malls on every shore
Tha thin line between entertainment and war
The frontline is everywhere, there be no shelter here
Speilberg the nightmare works so push it far
Amistad was a whip, the truth was feathered and tarred
Memory erased, burned and scarred
Trade in ya history for a VCR

Cinema, simulated life, ill drama
Fourth Reich culture - Americana
Chained to the dream they got ya searchin for
Tha thin line between entertainment and war

There be no shelter here
Tha frontline is everywhere

Hospitals not profit full
Yet market bulls got pockets full
To advertise some hip disguise
View tha world from American eyes
Tha poor adore keep fiendin for more
Tha thin line between entertainment and war
They fix the need, develop the taste
Buy their products or get laid to waste
Coca-Cola is back in the veins of Saigon
And Rambo too, he got a dope pair of Nikes on
And Godzilla pure mutha****in filler
To keep ya eyes off the real killer

Cinema, simulated life, ill drama
Fourth Reich culture - Americana
Chained to the dream they got ya searchin for
Tha thin line between entertainment and war

American eyes, American eyes....
View the world from American eyes
Bury the past, rob us blind
And leave nothin behind

Just stare
Relive the nightmare.

No Shelter, a song about the effects of propoganda, mass media, and advertisement on American culture. Zach shows his distaste for how war has been treated as a form of entertainment through high grossing movies and ratings fest News programs. The line about "the poor keep fiending for more" is about the primitive patriotism that seems to be invoked in the american lower class, especially those that make up the majority of the armed forces, every time a major military assault is taken by the government. Again this is my interpretation.
The imagery, rhymes, rythm, and forceful chanting of American eyes, makes this pure poetry to me, and one of my favourite lyrics from Rage.

Please post yours.

[Darkness]

Zack guys ZACK

[bomber]

Eh, it was his second post...maybe he'll learn to explain himself next time.

no he wont he's an idiot friend of mine who came on here because i'm on alot and decided he thought he'd be cool to post but just ignore him.

[alifraser]

undisputedly: "the best band in the ****ing universe" - tom's mum.

[IAJP]

Any good live RATM albums I should check out?

[munky_magik]

Also you get the extra's on it as well, It's a really good deal:)

[Janitor]

Yeah, the setlist is really good on that. Add Take The Power Back and then it would be perfect for me.

[IAJP]

Fantastic.
No C.D though?
/bearing in mind I have the first 3 rage albums :-\

[munky_magik]

You can buy the Live At The Grand Olympic Auditorium on cd as well, but I would go for the DVD.

[DonMancini]

Yeah, the setlist is really good on that. Add Take The Power Back and then it would be perfect for me.
Yeah I was gonna say that. :p

[IAJP]

I'm listening to the debut now,
I never really realised how bloody awesome this is,
especially Freedom

[CaptainWaits]

You can buy the Live At The Grand Olympic Auditorium on cd as well, but I would go for the DVD.


I don't really enjoy that DVD, they've got some others that are a lot better produced.

[Darkness]

Dude...that dvd is amazing...the production is awesome.

[Morello_Monk]

anyone got any other DVDs? first one? Battle of mexico city?

[CaptainWaits]

Battle of Mexico City was the other one I was talkin' about, as it is my favorite

[Morello_Monk]

yeah. Better than any of the others. But... The new one has some ultra cool extras.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I have a couple RATM lyrics that I appreciate. Here's a few

The teacher stands in front of the class. The lesson plan he can't recall. The students eyes don't percieve the lies mounted on every ****ing wall -Take the Power Back

If Ignorance is bliss, Then would someone knock the smile off my face -Settle for Nothing. That entire song has great lyrics, but that line is the one that stands out in my mind.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Post 500 :D

[Darkness]

I have the self titled dvd...its awesome. Ghost of Tom Joad makes a great opener

[iRage67]

WOW ratm is by far one of my very favorites i love the last dvd and i love self titled and i thought renegades was awsomely done they chose some awsome songs and i like how zack put it-we chose music form atrist we truly respected-

no ones probably gunna read this but hey does any one know any other zack solo sutff???? id rele dig it

[Darkness]

Theres "we want it all" and "march of death".

[static]

504 post :)

[static]

we want it all is awesome, but i feel the drums overthrow Zack's singin'

[iRage67]

woot thanks guys

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I have the self titled dvd...its awesome. Ghost of Tom Joad makes a great opener

I was looking into buying their DVD offa Amazon, but I bought The Wall DVD instead. :D

[Bass_ment]

Yeah I read in the most recent Kerrang that Zack's solo album is due out this year!!
Although it said Winter so we may have to wait a while yet
but yeah I'm excited about this.

[Bass_ment]

*bump*

[Thor]

I was looking into buying their DVD offa Amazon, but I bought The Wall DVD instead. :D
You should definetly get RATM's Dvd's. They are all insane.

[Darkness]

Yeah they were one of the best bands live.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Yeah I read in the most recent Kerrang that Zack's solo album is due out this year!!
Although it said Winter so we may have to wait a while yet
but yeah I'm excited about this.

Don't get too excited. I'm not sure if I know anyone who listened/listens to RATM for Zack's contribution. I'm not saying I don't like him as a musician, but I doubt his solo career will be very long lived or high quality.

[zildjian_junkee]

renegades, killing in the name of and gurilla radio are the best songs
ratm is my favorite band up there with slipknot and system of a down

[Darkness]

bump

talk people..

[merobb]

These guys are my favorite band! I've been listening to them for years now, and even though I've been playing only a little over 4 months I've already learned quite a few of their songs. My favorite one to play is Bombtrack. B)

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Bombtrack rules, that main riff was one of the firt i learned to play on guitar.

[IAJP]

OK, I borrowed my friends Rage live DVD.
It's pretty excellent from what I've seen.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

These guys are my favorite band! I've been listening to them for years now, and even though I've been playing only a little over 4 months I've already learned quite a few of their songs. My favorite one to play is Bombtrack. B)

Same here. I've got about 6 months under my belt, and I can play basically the entire S/T, quite a bit of BoLA, and I've learned a few songs off of Evil Empire. I get quite a good use out of my Digitech RP300A playing RATM songs. :thumb:

[JugBandBlues]

I'm not sure if I know anyone who listened/listens to RATM for Zack's contribution. I'm not saying I don't like him as a musician, but I doubt his solo career will be very long lived or high quality.

you may be right about his solo carrer because that seems to be the way a lot of solo carrers go. but i think Zack is an essential part of RATM and nobody could replace him as a lead singer

[Darkness]

Sept Chris Cornell...


pffft

[DonMancini]

Man you knokw I've been listening to evil empire often recently, and it sounds much better than I thought :p

Favorite track : Revolver.