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Kif
12-04-2004, 04:56 PM
Band: Linkin Park/Jay-Z
Album: Collision Course (The Ulitmate Mash-Up)
Released: November 29, 2004

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Track listing:
Disc 1: CD
1. Dirt Off Your Shoulder/Lying From You
2. Big Pimpin’/Papercut
3. Jigga What/Faint
4. Numb/Encore
5. IZZO/In The End
6. Points Of Authority/99 Problems/One Step Closer

Disc 2: DVD
1. Behind the Scenes Documentary
2. Live Footage

I'm not gonna lie to you. I was skeptical when I heard about this collaberation. 2 of the biggest names in nu-metal and rap colliding for one very different mix-tape. But I heard the live show and became hooked. However you want to look at it, whether it be one of the biggest mash-ups in history, or just another money making scheme from 2 giant names, it is catchy.

01. Dirt Off Your Shoulder/Lying From You - 5/10
There is nothing special here. The two songs don't go well together energetically, which is a shame. Jay-Z's re-working of the vocals on this are disappointing in my opinion, and the same old LP riffs and melodies don't impress. The 2 mixed together don't really make for anything to write home about either. Skippable? I think so.

02. Big Pimpin’/Papercut - 6/10
180 degrees, this time it's Linkin Park lyrics over Jay-Z's music. I gave it a 6 for 1 reason; for the fact that it's funny. The typical "paranoid" style lyrics from LP over Shawn's "pimped out" beats is just hilarious. That's about it really, again nothing really major about this song.

03. Jigga What/Faint - 5/10
Disappointing. This is, in fact, my favourite Linkin Park song, and to hear it ripped apart like this is a disgrace. Nothing against Jay-Z's rapping, but it ruins the mood in my opinion. The new bassline is a nice new addition to the song, but it isn't the same. The switch from Jay-Z/LP lyrics is horrible, and the only reason this scored 5/10 is because I like the original Linkin Park version.

04. Numb/Encore - 7/10
This is better. The music from LP has changed a lot for Jay-Z's "goodbye" rap, which is decent enough as it is without adding some really expressive melody to it. Overall, a decent enough song. Not my personal choice for the single to promote this, but it's their decision, and it does well to get it out (Hey, I bought it!)

05. IZZO/In The End - 4/10
Another goof mix in my eyes, and it does it pretty well. The transition from Jay-Z to Linkin Park is done well, and to be honest the In The End lyrics go well over the music. But the switch back makes the hairs on my back stand on end. It's bad, and the fade-out doesn't make it better either. Worst track on this "EP" in my opinion.

06. Points Of Authority/99 Problems/One Step Closer - 8/10
A stroke of genius. 99 Problems, probably one of the only decent songs off The Black Album, combined with proper hard-hitting nu-metal. Mike's involvement as the "police officer" is pretty cool, and even though the music isn't really changed that much, it doesn't make much difference. My only problem was the switch to OSC. Even though the music to that would probably have worked better, the way they change is boring and could've been made better considering the budget they would've had.

DVD Review:
A little extra to try and sell this off, and to be fair, it worked. I was curious to see how it was made, and a little disappointed when most of it was antics in the studio and a little photo shoot. The live show is very impressive though, and something any Linkin Park and/or Jay-Z fan should see. Overall, the DVD isn't bad considering the amount of footage I expect they would've had, but then again it wasn't amazing either. Didn't make me want to watch it again at all.

Rating:
Most people will be thinking "Jesus, LP are releasing their songs again! Make some new material you fags!" And I agree. But this is a nice CD to have in your collection. It's different, which can be looked at both good and bad. I definately think fans of both artists will want to listen to this, just to see how their favourites sound with different elements. But if you aren't really a major fan of either, I wouldn't recommend it. It does seem like another "get richer quicker" scheme by Linkin Park (They asked Jay-Z, and he said yes. I know, I was shocked too), but it's still fun to have.

I'd give it a 3/5, purely because there are some good mixes on there. Sure, they could've been a lot better, but they aren't exactly bad.
:D:D:D:upset::upset:

The JoZ
12-04-2004, 04:59 PM
A couple friends of mine have this, and they thought it was cool.

My opinion of LP has been fading fast, and if they don't release some pretty awesome new material, I'm going to give up on them altogether. I personally have no desire to buy this.

Kif
12-04-2004, 05:02 PM
Same here, although it has only been about a year since Meteora was released, so I gotta give them a break there. But I think that releasing a gimmick album like this is such a bad thing to do at the moment. Stuff like this just puts off touring and writing new songs (Which I expect wouldn't take long for LP anyway), which is disappointing.

I kind of regret buying this, because it's one of those things you buy and will never put on again until your friends come over and you say "Holy sh*t guess what I bought!"

The JoZ
12-04-2004, 05:04 PM
Well, I mean, I bought Reanimation hoping for more rock and metal than rap. They released the Points remix, and if they had done every song like that, it would've been amazing. But they didn't do that.

It's one thing to mix rock and rap, but if they keep doing this pattern of rock, rap, rock, rap, pattern, then I'm going to stop paying attention to them.

supraman_2
12-04-2004, 05:05 PM
Most people will be thinking "Jesus, LP are releasing their songs again! Make some new material you fags!"
All that needs to be said :lol:

_-LiNkInPaRk-_
12-04-2004, 10:18 PM
:upset:

Scythe404
12-04-2004, 10:44 PM
A couple friends of mine have this, and they thought it was cool.

My opinion of LP has been fading fast, and if they don't release some pretty awesome new material, I'm going to give up on them altogether. I personally have no desire to buy this.

Ditto.

Hybrid Theory was a good album, and it showed massive potential. Reanimation almost qualified the turntable as a musical instrument, and the guest vocals were phenomenal.

Then came Meteora. 37 minutes of the same song over and over with 5-15 good minutes somewhere in there (37 minutes, 12 tracks? The ACoS EP, yes EP, has a good 50 minutes!). And now this.

Well, its clear they've chosen the Dark Side. And unless they've got a good Vader costumes and James Earl Jones, i am not amused.

ZEROthirtythree
12-05-2004, 12:07 PM
99 Problems, probably one of the only decent songs off The Black Album,

:angry:

Kage
12-05-2004, 12:28 PM
just another money making scheme from 2 giant names.

Bingo

Linkin Park never have any new ideas, so they wash up their old songs in a different form, and release an album that way. They now have four major label releases, only two of them (and that's a stretch, since Meteroa's songs were largely almost remakes of Hybrid Theory) have had any original material.

Kif
12-05-2004, 12:37 PM
Bingo

Linkin Park never have any new ideas, so they wash up their old songs in a different form, and release an album that way. They now have four major label releases, only two of them (and that's a stretch, since Meteroa's songs were largely almost remakes of Hybrid Theory) have had any original material.
5 if you include Live In Texas, which I can kind of understand as it is a live CD/DVD. But I do agree, they are releasing too many things. It's putting me right off them

TemperamentalGoat
12-05-2004, 03:21 PM
Jay Z > Linkin Park, I've heard a couple of MP3s and it seems to lack flow. Jay's rapping totally dominates LP's. Seems like a marketing ploy to get alternative fans to listen to Jay-Z, or visa versa. It's not terrible, but 3/5 is being very, very, generous. I'd of course rather get one of the artists' original albums (or, none at all).

r_whitcomb
12-05-2004, 04:04 PM
99 problems is one of the only good tracks on the black album? thats a pretty stupid thing to say mr. hip hop guru.

GhoulScout
12-05-2004, 04:30 PM
I saw the mash up on mtv, and I thought Jay Zs lyrics were much better over a heavy beat than the rap mixes he ususally has. I liked the encore one especially. Though I still despise Linkin Park

Kif
12-05-2004, 04:32 PM
99 problems is one of the only good tracks on the black album? thats a pretty stupid thing to say mr. hip hop guru.
Hip Hop guru? Good one.

I don't mean to say that The Black Album was crap. It by far isn't. But it isn't up to the standards he's released in the past. I just think that, being his last album, he slouched on it a bit and could've done a lot better

sodergren
01-09-2005, 01:50 AM
I'd of course rather get one of the artists' original albums (or, none at all).
Yeah, too bad Linkin Park only has one original album. And they suck. And Jay Z sucks more. Ooooh.

Sep
01-09-2005, 02:40 AM
I heard Numb/Encore and it sucked.

br3ad_man
01-09-2005, 05:01 AM
All I can say is, why must we ruin decent Jay-Z material by mixing it with Linkin Park? That said, I've only heard the radio single, so I'm not really qualified to have an opinion.

KappaKid17
01-09-2005, 11:01 PM
The One Step Closer/99 Problems mash sounds like a train-wreck.

forthepeopleofthesun
01-10-2005, 12:36 PM
...99 Problems, probably one of the only decent songs off The Black Album...

False.

SubtleDagger
01-10-2005, 12:47 PM
I think I heard Numb/Encore and immediately thought that this was the most retarded idea for an album or musical project ever. What's the frigging point? I get a guy rapping over the original song's beat for the majority of the song, and then I get to hear the band's version, which isn't even re-recorded, it's just the same song I've heard a million times.

An idiotic idea for a cash-in.

The JoZ
01-10-2005, 02:39 PM
I think I heard Numb/Encore and immediately thought that this was the most retarded idea for an album or musical project ever. What's the frigging point? I get a guy rapping over the original song's beat for the majority of the song, and then I get to hear the band's version, which isn't even re-recorded, it's just the same song I've heard a million times.

An idiotic idea for a cash-in.

And even then, his rapping doesn't seem to fit with the music, at least not what I've heard.

Jay-Z's beats fit his rapping. Linkin Park's singing/rapping fits their music. That's how they should've kept it.

juggalotricksta
01-10-2005, 03:44 PM
I almost agree with what everyone is saying. Ive had a problem with Linkin Park ever since the Reanimation album. The re-release and overplaying of every LP song has long since worn my last nerve. Im not a Jay-Z fan especially, but I do own the Black Album, and for the most part I have good things to say about it.

Watching TV one day I stumbled across the Ultimate Mash-ups segment on MTV2. For some reason I kept watching despite my ill will towards LP. At first I was a little disgusted...but since then, every time I hear the song Numb/Encore, I turn it up. Intriguing...

I have since bought the album, and although its not the greatest of either genre, its still fun to listen to.

deejuks2
01-10-2005, 09:32 PM
that was quite a generous review.......

manuscriptreplica
01-11-2005, 03:58 AM
Yep, this CD sure sucks

My already rock-bottom respect for Linkin Park has plummeted

Ulysses
01-11-2005, 04:52 AM
two average genres musically speaking. Put them together and this is the product, I have listened to this album and am not impressed, some scam to make more money from older songs, poor.

Kif
01-11-2005, 01:00 PM
Considering the fact that this is clearly a cash-in idea, and the fact that you hardly see two groups/artists like this clash, I wanted to enjoy it the best I could. I tried to see the fun side of things rather than the manufactured side of it.

JFK
01-11-2005, 02:39 PM
Wow, 1 of the less entertaining bands from the rock world, teamed up with a hip-hop legend, I've got 1 word for this CD, Wow. What else could be more worse than a bunch of **** musicians, they should call this CD, 'The Worst Of Both Worlds'. What a crock.

Descent_g_r
01-11-2005, 03:52 PM
You guys calling it a cash-in album just need to ****ing relax. It wasn't LP's idea to make the album, they were approached by Jay z's people.

Epicurus
01-11-2005, 08:40 PM
Jay z doesnt belong anywhere near Linkin park, and i dont even like Linkin park but still he has wrecked them in my opinion

Iai
01-12-2005, 09:47 AM
Jay z doesnt belong anywhere near Linkin park, and i dont even like Jay-Z but still Linkin Park has wrecked him in my opinion
Fixed.

juggalotricksta
01-12-2005, 11:48 AM
^^^:lol:

its funny because its true.

SubtleDagger
01-12-2005, 11:59 AM
They're both awful.

guy_smiley
01-12-2005, 12:13 PM
^Best mod in the world.^

JFK
01-12-2005, 02:02 PM
Who gives a **** about who approached who, either way, it still sucks.

breakinginflames
01-13-2005, 10:30 PM
i was personally a huge fan of LP

they brought me out of the dark side and helped me see the light
(they made me love rock and start to despise rap)
since i have loved every albulm(even reanimation), but when i heard of this i refused to buy it
i hope they got paid a lot bc they'll need to stay in a studio for years to get back to the way they were
they need to quit all this pop crap, and break into metal... real metal
or at least chester should start his own band with him screaming/singing cause he has an awesome voice
im pretty sure shinoda could even belt out a couple yells every now and then
brad should start playing solos to show people he can play cause im beggining to wonder...
anyway ive moved on to better music...anyone reviewed All That Remains' this darkened heart?.... or Caliban's the opposite from within?

Scythe404
01-13-2005, 10:34 PM
i was personally a huge fan of LP

they brought me out of the dark side and helped me see the light
(they made me love rock and start to despise rap)
since i have loved every albulm(even reanimation), but when i heard of this i refused to buy it
i hope they got paid a lot bc they'll need to stay in a studio for years to get back to the way they were
they need to quit all this pop crap, and break into metal... real metal
or at least chester should start his own band with him screaming/singing cause he has an awesome voice
im pretty sure shinoda could even belt out a couple yells every now and then
brad should start playing solos to show people he can play cause im beggining to wonder...
anyway ive moved on to better music...anyone reviewed All That Remains' this darkened heart?.... or Caliban's the opposite from within?

If anyone in LP is genuinely talented, it IS Mike Shinoda. He really doesn't flex this talent much with LP, but has quite an innovative - or at least interesting - approach to hip hop when he does other collaborative works.

Another thing to note: I've heard recordings of Delson attempting to solo and - it's really best if he sticks to what he's good at.

breakinginflames
01-13-2005, 10:40 PM
ok then, but they could still play way heavier stuff than breaking the habit
one or two songs like numb can be tolorated as long as the cd isnt less than 45 min.
and yeah shinoda is one of the few,no the only (i guess the term) "emcee" i can stand bc he doesnt ramble on about meaningless garbage, he is good at that

Zesty Mordant
01-13-2005, 11:36 PM
i've downloaded the tracks from the ep and i did not like, mainly because of Linkin Park and simply the fact that the songs just didn't fit with each other.

for some reason i can see jay-z and led zeppelin working really well.

otherwise good review. its always cool to see the more chart-oriented stuff on here. i've been thinking of reviewing the Black Album for some time now.

Kurtz
01-13-2005, 11:59 PM
I'm sick of Numb/Encore.