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BassPlayerOfWis
12-02-2004, 12:40 PM
ok... alot of the songs thati want to play are in a different key other than the normal E A D G. i need to know how to tune it differntly so i can play these songs (most of linkin park on a 4 string)
defenestration
12-02-2004, 01:08 PM
but a tuner... or learn to tune with harmonics
Vaelroth
12-02-2004, 01:43 PM
Learn relative tuning, its easy and cheaper than buying a tuner. You have to know the notes on your bass to do relative tuning, but if you remember that your bass is tuned in 5ths (until you put it in a drop tuning) you'll have no problem.
Spazzout22
12-02-2004, 02:32 PM
Learn relative tuning, its easy and cheaper than buying a tuner. You have to know the notes on your bass to do relative tuning, but if you remember that your bass is tuned in 5ths (until you put it in a drop tuning) you'll have no problem.
Basses are tuned in 4ths....
fortyseven
12-02-2004, 03:41 PM
im pretty sure i tune mine in 5ths. chromatic 5ths anyway. or major 4ths. so your right. i think he means 5ths as in the 5th fret.
sd_whiteboy619
12-02-2004, 06:07 PM
learn the notes on ur bass and u can tune to any key u want. i dont know any of the chormatic majors blah blah but i know the notes and i can tune to any key that i want. or get a 15 dollar tuner taht will help you as well
vheartagramv
12-02-2004, 06:09 PM
Just have to hope your bass isn't knocked out of tune or out of tune in the first place.
BassPlayerOfWis
12-03-2004, 10:12 AM
Just have to hope your bass isn't knocked out of tune or out of tune in the first place.
it should be ok i tune it every time i go to play
Druvid
12-03-2004, 02:37 PM
Basses are tuned in 4ths....
E F F# G G# A
Count the steps my friend :smoke:
cheesepuff
12-03-2004, 04:24 PM
E F F# G G# A
Count the steps my friend :smoke:
... are you quite serious?
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/article.php?a=253
^ full explanation there
Druvid
12-03-2004, 05:50 PM
... are you quite serious?
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/article.php?a=253
^ full explanation there
Yes I was :amaze: But meh... Everything is relative.
It may be 4ths after the major scale but it's the 5th in the chromatic scale..
Thanks for enlightening me on intervals though :thumb:
Bass+Fingers+Amp=Groove
12-03-2004, 06:03 PM
ITs ok, it is 4th and it is 5ths it just depends which direction you go in the circle of 5ths ;)
Spazzout22
12-03-2004, 10:18 PM
ITs ok, it is 4th and it is 5ths it just depends which direction you go in the circle of 5ths ;)
Actually ^_^ it's more dependant on which direction you're going in relation to a note. If you're going from an E up to an A, it's a 4th; E down to an A is a 5th.
E F F# G G# A
Count the steps my friend
I still see a 4th...
Yes I was But meh... Everything is relative.
It may be 4ths after the major scale but it's the 5th in the chromatic scale..
Thanks for enlightening me on intervals though
I'll explain:
Major scales | Natural Minor show these intervals (numbers equal scale degrees used, then interval between them), then Variations on scale degrees
1-2 = M2 | 1-2 = M2 | A2=m3, d2=P-unison
1-3 = M3 | 1-3 = m3 | A3=P4, d3=M2
1-4 = P4 | 1-4 = P4 | A4=d5, d4=M3
1-5 = P5 | 1-5 = P5 | A5=m6, d5=A4
1-6 = M6 | 1-6 = m6 | A6=m7, d6=P5
1-7 = M7 | 1-7 = m7 | A7=P8, d7=M6
1-8 = P8 | 1-8 = P8 | A8=m9=cm2(compound minor second), d8=M7
Intervals are the same no matter what scale you use. There is always going the be the same distance between certain intervals. Hope that clears up any confusion, and creates a little :naughty:
I should have just let the freeking link explain...
Druvid
12-04-2004, 05:47 AM
I'll explain:
Major scales | Natural Minor show these intervals (numbers equal scale degrees used, then interval between them), then Variations on scale degrees
1-2 = M2 | 1-2 = M2 | A2=m3, d2=P-unison
1-3 = M3 | 1-3 = m3 | A3=P4, d3=M2
1-4 = P4 | 1-4 = P4 | A4=d5, d4=M3
1-5 = P5 | 1-5 = P5 | A5=m6, d5=A4
1-6 = M6 | 1-6 = m6 | A6=m7, d6=P5
1-7 = M7 | 1-7 = m7 | A7=P8, d7=M6
1-8 = P8 | 1-8 = P8 | A8=m9=cm2(compound minor second), d8=M7
Intervals are the same no matter what scale you use. There is always going the be the same distance between certain intervals. Hope that clears up any confusion, and creates a little :naughty:
I should have just let the freeking link explain...
Hehe, yeah maybe... You lost me in the 3rd column :confused:
:amaze:
DRybes
12-04-2004, 11:00 AM
ok a perfect 4th is five half steps...
E A D G is 4ths.
linkin park use down a half step = Eb Ab Db Gb and then a dropped low string to Db. tune to Eb and learn how to use drop D tuning by ear, its easy to go in and out of drop D once you learn tuning strings relatively with harmonics.
all of hybrid theory uses drop Db but most if not all of meteora uses a 5 string, sometimes tuned B E A D G and sometimes Bb Eb Ab Db Gb, so you're S.o.L. if you want to play most of those songs in the proper octave.
rogue bassist
01-31-2006, 08:02 PM
how do you tune bass to flats???
bleeding_fingers
01-31-2006, 08:06 PM
Press the first fret and tune to E standard or whatever you're tuning to.
rogue bassist
02-01-2006, 02:58 PM
Press the first fret and tune to E standard or whatever you're tuning to.
so if im tuning the bass to Db Ab Eb Gb...........
i just press first fret( on A) and tune until it gets to 'A' on the tuner...right
and that will make it flat??
Zjanarhi
02-01-2006, 06:54 PM
E F F# G G# A
Count the steps my friend :smoke:
You're an idiot.
Akira
02-01-2006, 06:58 PM
You're an idiot.
Seconded. Basses are tuned in fourths, end of discussion.
Killer Fridge
02-02-2006, 02:59 AM
ahh if only this discussion wasnt nearly 2 years old, i'd think it already had ended
Akira
02-02-2006, 03:03 PM
ahh if only this discussion wasnt nearly 2 years old, i'd think it already had ended
The discussion should have never existed.
PillarFreak
02-02-2006, 09:41 PM
The discussion should have never existed.
...That pretty much sums it up...
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