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The JoZ
11-27-2004, 04:37 PM
I know what you might be thinking. "What? Another stupid -Core genre?" Well, normally I would agree. But to try and place Deadsy into a single genre is nigh impossible. Frontman P. Exeter Blue (aka Elijah Blue) coined the term to describe Deadsy's sound, which consists of an onslaught of droning synth, super-distorted guitars, and his trademark monotonous vocals. The band members have all adopted these weird personas which represent some form of society. Academia, Fear, Leisure, Medicine/Science and War, respectively. It's a bit weird, but take it with a grain of salt, I suppose.

The Band:
Philips Exeter Blue I. - Guitar, Vocals
Creature - Bass
Alec Pure - Drums/Percussion
Dr Nner - Keyboards
Carlton Megalodon - Z-Tar (Synth guitar)

The Songs:
This will be my first time not doing track-by-track, so bear with me.

The CD kicks off with what is easily the most accessable song on the album, "The Key to Gramercy Park". It's an up-tempo number with heavy distortion and weird sounds abound. They made a video for this, and I encourage anyone to watch it just once to see what these guys look like. Some people might be put off by some tiny guest vocals by Jon Davis, but honestly, it doesn't really effect the song too much. I wish they had more stuff like this song, to be honest, but they really don't.

The next couple of songs are mid-tempo, the oblique "Winners" which has some sort of unusual message attatched (as do most of the songs) and the somewhat inspiring, or at least positive "Brand New Love". Both of these songs are pretty accessable as well, but they are not nearly as rocking as the opening track. The synth definetly plays a larger role as the tracks go on, and the guitars are less and less prominant, usually only holding huge distorted chords here and there. "Brand New Love" does give a chance to actually hear the bass, which is often lost in a sea of distortion.

Only after the first three tracks, IMO, do you truely see what Deadsy are about. "Mansion World" is a strange number, with etherial synths, and electronic drums paving the way for Exeter's strange tale about a world where "On the Mansion World / The roles reverse / A slave becomes a master" He references Urantia once or twice in this song, and continues to do so in other songs. He claims to be very into alternate religions/ways of thinkings. Personally, I think he's just a bit nuts, but that's me. There's a small bit of a synth solo toward the end...nothing spectacular by any means, but a lead line of sorts.

The next four tracks are going to be very hard to listen to for the casual listener. "Lake Waramaug", "The Elements", "Flowing Glower" and "Future Years" are slow, droning numbers without any question. The former is the most up tempo of the four, the latter is one of the slowest on the CD. "Lake Waramaug" actually sees Exeter turn off the distortion for some clean guitar soloish stuff toward the end, which is a huge difference compared to his normal playing. All these songs definetly sound different, but they have a very samey quality to them, in being very slow, dirge-like numbers. Not nearly as slow as some doom metal bands might play, but very slow nonetheless.

Then, seemingly out of nowhere, they hit us with an 80's throwback of sorts. "She Likes Big Words" brings us back to an 80's pop song feel, but with distorted guitars. This is a fun, abstract song about the shallowness of a vain woman, it's fun to listen to, and will actually bring a little energy back into the mix. Nner definetly gets a workout in this song, with synths and keys doing all sorts of things. I can't help but think part of it, somewhere, is Carlton, but I don't know for sure. Following this, we go back towards plodding riffs...but this one drives a little more than previous tracks, with a great bassline in "Cruella".

Following those two, we get take a dark dive downward into misanthropy with "Seagulls" and "Le Cirque en Rose". These tracks are droning, no doubt, but they have a darker quality to them, almost evil, thanks to well-placed synth sounds and effects. Of course, monotonous vocals don't help...well, actually they do. "Le Cirque" has an evil circus feel to it, very...well I'm running out of adjectives here, but suffice to say you wouldn't want to take a youngster to this circus. "Le Cirque" is one of my favorite tracks, for having that inherently 'dark' quality to it, and being slightly uptempo too.

Arguably, the best track on the album might be their cover of the Rush classic, "Tom Sawyer". They keep it true to the original, but put their own touch on it, being the extra distortion and Exeter's vocals. The famous 'solo' spots, with the keys, the bass and even the fast drum break, all kept intact, and done well. They end it with the title track, "Commencement", which is without a doubt in my mind, the worst track on the album. It takes droning to a whole new level, and even Exeter's vocals get effected, which add to the...yeah. This song did not need to push five and a half minutes, it drags on way too much for my taste, even compared to earlier cuts which did alot of dragging.

So in summation, if you're into tons of droning, tons of distortion, often toneless vocals, and synth flying all over the place, pick this up. This is not a bad CD at all IMO, but it just will not appeal to everyone. The strong tracks are quite strong I think, but too many numbers are far too slow and plodding to appeal to many people I think. I give this a solid 3/5.

Recommended Tracks:
Key to Gramercy Park
Winners
Mansion World
Le Cirque en Rose
Tom Sawyer.

It was partially track by track, but not like I normally do it :thumb:

Shadows
11-27-2004, 04:40 PM
You did remarkably well me thinks. I've heard a little bit of these guys but nothing to really get me into them I think I may now - sounds like something I could get into.

But what is 'Undercore'?

The JoZ
11-27-2004, 04:41 PM
I will have to look up exactly what Elijah said about Undercore. Hold on.

Shadows
11-27-2004, 04:43 PM
That would be interesting. Yes, I did read the review, so I know the basis of it...but now there are so many -cores out there that I don't really know one from the other anymore.

The JoZ
11-27-2004, 04:57 PM
I could not find the actual quote from him, but this is what I found, and sums it up, I guess

Under: Low, dissonant sound
Core: Commitment to excellence

Deadsy created this term to describe both their musical style and mode of operation.

Their distinctive music uses lots of heavy bass and churning vocals ('low, dissonant sound') And their goal is to be the best band on this world and all others (excellence).

Shadows
11-27-2004, 05:00 PM
Seems logical...the 'core' definition amuses me.

I'm getting this as we speak. The genre seems appealing.

The JoZ
11-27-2004, 05:02 PM
I'm surprised, I guess.

I figured most people would like their music with some energy in it. But if you're into slower numbers with weird lyrics and lots of distortion, this can definetly be your cup of tea :thumb:

They have a new one coming out next year, I am so reviewing that one too. :cool:

Shadows
11-27-2004, 05:17 PM
How long have these guys been around? Do they have much of a history?

The JoZ
11-27-2004, 05:20 PM
They have formally been around since like 95 or 97, I can't remember which. They battled over getting signed, yadda yadda yadda, then just before this CD was released, they pulled it to change it around. They got signed to Korn's Elementree label, and put this out...but then they got kicked off, or left, or w/e. So they just now are getting around on a new label, and putting out a new album.

They have been around, but many people have never heard of them.

Per Ardua Ad Astra
11-27-2004, 05:37 PM
A friend of mine has seen these guys live, good review.
I don't like them that much personally.

YDload
11-27-2004, 06:10 PM
I was never a big fan of Deadsy and their one song that I've heard (Key to Grammercy Park), but I do have an interesting tidbit on the band's lead singer. Elijah Blue is the son of Cher and Gregg Allman, and can be seen as a teenager playing guitar in Cher's "Turn Back Time" video.

Bartender
11-27-2004, 06:15 PM
I was just about to say, I was sure Elijah was the son of someone famous.

The JoZ
11-27-2004, 06:17 PM
Yeah I guess I could've mentioned that, but I didn't. Oops :p

Shadows
11-27-2004, 06:38 PM
With famous parents like that I'm surprised that the band hasn't gotton more exposure.

Pluperfect_Arson
11-27-2004, 06:53 PM
I saw Deadsy at the Family Values Tour back in 2000 or 2001. Deadsy was the first band to perform. I thought "This isn't too bad...it's good for what it is. Their live show kind of sucks though." Demos were passed out around the audience, and I listened to it when I got home. It wasn't too bad. When their first album came out, I purchased it because it was only $6 or something close to that. I wasn't impressed at all by it. I mean, some of the stuff on there was great, but it just didn't tickle my fancy.

Nice review though.

YDload
11-27-2004, 06:55 PM
With famous parents like that I'm surprised that the band hasn't gotton more exposure.

1) Elijah didn't ask for any help from his parents, unlike SOME famous children (Kelly Osbourne), and yet he didn't go out of his way to avoid any mention of his parents in order to generate even more publicity (Jakob Dylan).

2) His band really isn't that great anyway.

The JoZ
11-27-2004, 07:01 PM
2) His band really isn't that great anyway.

On the contrary, I think they're quite good at what they do.

The drumming is often very good, something I don't think I mentioned. Alec uses double bass very tastefully, and it definetly adds to the album.

The new one might have more upbeat stuff in it, the tracks I've heard definetly have that headbangable quality to them, whereas only "Key" did on this one.

BoboTheRagingHobo
11-27-2004, 08:05 PM
Your review was great, it described this album perfectly. I personally love this album, I bought it the first week it came out for 7 bucks and loved it ever since.

Shadows
11-27-2004, 08:12 PM
1) Elijah didn't ask for any help from his parents, unlike SOME famous children (Kelly Osbourne), and yet he didn't go out of his way to avoid any mention of his parents in order to generate even more publicity (Jakob Dylan).
Well, it's good to know the guys not an attention whore at least...

2) His band really isn't that great anyway.
:lol: That could man his parents avoided mentioning it...

Wow
11-27-2004, 08:33 PM
I download that Key song a long time ago and thought it was alright. Then I saw them live. Holy **** their live show sucks ***. I couldn't hear what the hell was going on the entire time, it was just awful. And there was feedback like every 5 seconds.


The recordings sound decent, though.

Bartender
11-27-2004, 08:39 PM
From the sound of it, the feedback was intentional.

The JoZ
11-27-2004, 08:52 PM
There is some intentional feedback, but it's only twice...

cbmartinez
11-27-2004, 09:51 PM
My friend tells me to check these guys out all the time. I believe singer is Dee Snyder's son, or something.

The JoZ
11-27-2004, 10:11 PM
My friend tells me to check these guys out all the time. I believe singer is Dee Snyder's son, or something.

Cher and Greg Allman's son. :thumb:

Griffith
11-27-2004, 11:35 PM
Is there an "Overcore" as well?

The JoZ
11-27-2004, 11:47 PM
:lol:

You'd have to ask Elijah

SubtleDagger
11-28-2004, 12:00 AM
I have never been interested in Deadsy because they are an extremely obvious Orgy ripoff.

BoboTheRagingHobo
11-28-2004, 01:54 AM
I have never been interested in Deadsy because they are an extremely obvious Orgy ripoff.


Their music sounds nothing like Orgy...

SubtleDagger
11-28-2004, 02:04 AM
Listen to "Key To Gramercy Park", please. It's an Orgy song.

BoboTheRagingHobo
11-28-2004, 03:15 AM
Listen to "Key To Gramercy Park", please. It's an Orgy song.


That one song does, but nothing else of theirs sounds like Orgy at all, they don't even come close.

SubtleDagger
11-28-2004, 03:41 AM
The general methods of production and synth work, not to mention the vocals, reek of them. It's like Adema all over again.

BoboTheRagingHobo
11-28-2004, 03:57 AM
The general methods of production and synth work, not to mention the vocals, reek of them. It's like Adema all over again.


Have you even listened to this album?

Shadows
11-28-2004, 09:42 AM
Is there an "Overcore" as well?
Presumably...but it's up to one of us to bring it to the mainstream.

The JoZ
11-28-2004, 01:29 PM
The general methods of production and synth work, not to mention the vocals, reek of them. It's like Adema all over again.


The problem with that is Adema suck, and Deadsy do not :thumb:

SubtleDagger
11-28-2004, 04:01 PM
The problem with that is Adema suck, and Deadsy do not :thumb:
That's arguable.
Have you even heard this album?
Yes.